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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. Charlomagne and God Angelie DJ NVY had to

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Speaker 1: step out, and we have a very special guest in

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Speaker 1: the building, aoc is Hell. What's up. How are you feeling.

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Speaker 1: you're I think you're feeling good. I'm concerned about New

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Speaker 1: York you know, Yes, I was reading your opponent, Tina Forte,

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Speaker 1: But you're here because obviously, like New York is in

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Speaker 1: didn't believe Trump was going to acknowledge his loss in

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Speaker 1: the election. They didn't take us seriously when we said

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Speaker 1: that that we were saying that January sixth was going

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Speaker 1: to be violent, and they didn't believe us. We have

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Speaker 1: to use this word fascism, And what does fascism mean.

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Speaker 1: There's like kind of an academic term of fascism, but

435
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: then there's also the live reality. And in terms of

436
00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 1: this live reality, a lot of this is about really

437
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: like our individual power getting taken away. Period. Actual fascism

438
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: is really, you know, in this country, American fascism is

439
00:24:56,680 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: really the marrying of forces of white supremacy with just

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00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 1: oligarchy and unfettered capitalism. And we see that in how

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00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,639
Speaker 1: it plays out because when you look at who is

442
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:18,200
Speaker 1: funding the extreme right wing in this country, it's billionaires, billionaires.

443
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:22,439
Speaker 1: You have Elon Musk out here supporting and telling people

444
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Speaker 1: to vote for a political party that will not acknowledge

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00:25:25,160 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: the results of an election. Why because once they get

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Speaker 1: in power, they write the checks. They will let the

447
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,640
Speaker 1: fossil fuel industry burn us to a crisp. They will

448
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: allow the private prison industry to explode, which they did,

449
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 1: they they will and that it also includes our carsol system,

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Speaker 1: includes both our immigration carseol system and our domestic car

451
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Speaker 1: sool system. I mean, it's really just about allowing all

452
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Speaker 1: of this to go unfettered. And the way that they

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Speaker 1: retain the political power to do that is by rally

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00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: this sense of white fear, and they say, in order

455
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: to protect yours, you need to support us. Like the

456
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: racism is a huge animating factor, but it also pays dividends,

457
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: which is why you see people billionaires like the Mercers,

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00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: why you see the Koch brothers, That's why you see

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Speaker 1: Elon Musk, That's why you see all of these folks

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00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: aligning with the right wing. Are you alarmed about this

461
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 1: announcement that Donald Trump is set to make next week?

462
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:36,520
Speaker 1: I mean alarmed, Like yeah, I mean, I guess shocked.

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Speaker 1: No is, I'm not shocked. Alarming. It's always alarming. This

464
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: person is this is a violent person, Like, this is

465
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Speaker 1: a violent person and he will do whatever it takes,

466
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Speaker 1: including throwing his own vice president under the bus and potentially,

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00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: you know, ending his life. Like on January sixth, these

468
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,720
Speaker 1: people were out here to hurt Mike Pence and that

469
00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: was his own vice president and he was just kind

470
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 1: of out here, like what happens happens. You know, this

471
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: is a dangerous person who also is highly leveraged. We

472
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 1: do not we still do not understand his full financial picture,

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00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: but it certainly seems like he is financially very beholding

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Speaker 1: to a lot of interests that are not the people

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Speaker 1: of the United States, and he's going to do whatever

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Speaker 1: it takes for him to come out on top. You

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00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: think he'll be charged or anything. I mean, I think

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00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 1: that the case is there. I think that the Department

479
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: of Justice certainly would have a case on multiple charges,

480
00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: including obstruction of justice, and so whether they charge him

481
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 1: or when they charge him is going to be significant.

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Speaker 1: There's some speculation that the reason that he's trying to

483
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Speaker 1: announce at this time is to avoid charges or try

484
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Speaker 1: to compkate and delay the Department of Justice from issuing charges.

485
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,280
Speaker 1: I don't think the Department of Justice knows how to

486
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,520
Speaker 1: punish that level of privilege, because you know that they've

487
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: just system is design to protect that level of privilege.

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Speaker 1: It's true, It's true. I mean, there's there was a

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Speaker 1: lot of time. So I mean, how much time months,

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Speaker 1: if not over a year, spent in discussing and wringing

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Speaker 1: hands about can you charge the president of the United

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Speaker 1: States with committing a crime or a former president with

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00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: committing a crime? And even just the time it took

494
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: to even resolve that question really speaks to how much

495
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: impunity many positions of power have and that trickles all

496
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: the way down to even policing. Yeah, because we still

497
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:50,440
Speaker 1: have qualified immunity in this country. We can't even repeal that.

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Speaker 1: I suppoke to Michael Cohen. He said that, you know,

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Speaker 1: I said, if it was Obama, just he would have

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Speaker 1: been charged and everything. He's like, no, it's because he's

501
00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: a president having nothing to do with race. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that if Obama did the things that Trump did,

503
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Speaker 1: it would we would not it would not be the

504
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: same sting. It doesn't have Republicans act too. Yeah, I

505
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: feel like Democrats are tend to be, you know, very

506
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: kind of buy the books. I don't want to do this.

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00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: I want to make sure we could work together. Republicans

508
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: are like, we're not working with No, it's not work.

509
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 1: It never worked. It never worked. And it's this idea

510
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: that like, you know, like if we're just nice to them,

511
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 1: here's what they do. They take whatever you give them

512
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: and then they run with it like there's no especially now,

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00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: I mean I think it's long been that way, but

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00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: especially now more than ever, Like these are not people

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00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: that are interested and the people who do the few

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00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: Republicans that do reach out and do try to work

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00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: with Democrats, they are immediately peritual partner. It's over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: But what do you think about Nancy Pelosi and her husband,

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Speaker 1: because I feel like there's not a lot of sympathy

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00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: there for something like that that should have never happened.

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00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: But that's alarming to me. Also, Yeah, well, I mean

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Speaker 1: here's the thing is that it goes beyond sympathy, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first and foremost it is it's horrifying what

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Speaker 1: happened to her and what happened to her husband and

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Speaker 1: their family. But what's not being discussed, you know, a

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00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,240
Speaker 1: lot of it. What it is being discussed, it's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: look at this terrible thing that happened to this woman

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Speaker 1: and her family. Not there was an attempted assassination for

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Speaker 1: the person third in line for the presidency of the

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Speaker 1: United States of America that was politically motivated, and it

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00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 1: and was radicalized by Fox News and by right wing circles.

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Speaker 1: There is a major media outlet, there is a major

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Speaker 1: news channel that is fueling political violence in this country,

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00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: and we're acting like it's normal. It's not normal. Like

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Speaker 1: I can tell you one hundred and ten percent. One

536
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Speaker 1: of the largest sources of death threats that I get

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Speaker 1: is Tucker Carlson. Wow, every time that dude puts my

538
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 1: name in his mouth the next day, I mean, this

539
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 1: is like what stochastic terrorism is. It's like this indirect

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00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: It's like what you have when you use a very

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00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: large platform to turn up the temperature and target an

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00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: individual until something happens. And then when something happens, because

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00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 1: it's indirect, you say, oh, I had nothing to do

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00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:31,520
Speaker 1: with that. Tucker Carlson, God forbid anything happens. He plays

545
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:35,959
Speaker 1: a massive role in political violence, like it comes on

546
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,120
Speaker 1: his doorsteps specifically, not just I mean, it's not say

547
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: something happened, What do you mean to you are just

548
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: in the country period, to me, to elected officials, see

549
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: any of his targets, because it's not even just elected officials.

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00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 1: He will target people that have like other reporters, he

551
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: will target, but he will also target activists and advocates

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00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: that do not have resource verses or an infrastructure of

553
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: protection either. And it is extremely dangerous. This he absolutely

554
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: and and you know he was part of January sixth, right,

555
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: like the violence that happened then he absolutely played a

556
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: role in that how do you protect yourself against that?

557
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: Can you sue? Well? As a public figure and elected official,

558
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: you don't really get the same protections. So because like

559
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: the bar for libel is much higher, there's a lot

560
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: that can be said in the in the public sphere,

561
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: right Like, just because someone says something bad about me

562
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: doesn't mean I can go out and sue them. Even

563
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: if someone lies about me, I can't really sue them.

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00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 1: And that I think is part of what he uses

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00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: as a shield. He knows that that he is targeting

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Speaker 1: a a legal class that really cannot issue consequence, and

567
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: he uses that to drive an enormous amount of violence.

568
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 1: And meanwhile, this dude cries like every time there's like

569
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Speaker 1: someone around the corner that he feels like weird about,

570
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: you know, like but he does not know some of them.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure he's going to use this on

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Speaker 1: his shows. Something to him directly, I like, Tucker, come

573
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: like whatever you're going to see Meanwhile, for you pardon

574
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: he was saying. Meanwhile, he cries every time someone's around. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember, because somebody put his address out there one

576
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 1: time with something, right, Yeah, But the thing is this,

577
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 1: Like the thing is is that where it actually becomes

578
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: crazy is that he drives so much of this violence

579
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: and threat but meanwhile, like, I'm the one that has

580
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: to pay for my own security as a consequence of

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00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 1: his actions, Like I have to fundraise for my own safety.

582
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: Like that's how raggedy this system is. And so what

583
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 1: happens if you speak up and you can't fundraise for

584
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: your own security what like, then you go into hiding

585
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,879
Speaker 1: literally in order to be safe, whether you go into

586
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Speaker 1: hiding for a day or two days or a week.

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00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: But then how much how much longer are we going

588
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: to extend that? And this is when we, like the

589
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 1: the clarity of what we are living in starts to

590
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:30,000
Speaker 1: come into relieve, where people who are critical of systems

591
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 1: of power have to go into hiding, where racial minorities

592
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: are targeted to drive turnout, because we know that targeting

593
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 1: immigrants talking about crime drives out turnout. On the other side,

594
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: when we mischaracterize and play into stereotypes, when you have

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00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,760
Speaker 1: people who say, no matter what happens in the results

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00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 1: of the election, I will not I would accept it.

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00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 1: I win. When you have DHS reports that just came

598
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: out last week that showed that DHS was trying to

599
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: like manufacture terrorism under Trump, like saying that BLM tracking people.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is what the seeds of a blooming

601
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: fascist state look like. Yes, and that's why we need

602
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 1: to turn out this vote. I understand that, like listen,

603
00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: not all Democrats are the same, sometimes for better, sometimes

604
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: for worse. And I understand it can just feel like

605
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of bs on your ballot. But for me,

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00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: I would rather have an election than no election. And

607
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: that's the direction that these folks want to take us

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00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,839
Speaker 1: to no election, a one party state, that's true, one

609
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 1: party state. That's why I actually enjoy listening to you,

610
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 1: because you say things that I feel like nobody else

611
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: is saying out loud, Like everything you said, like political

612
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: violence is a hallmark of fascism. We notice, like denying

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00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: elections a hallmark of fascism. But like you said, people

614
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: are afraid to speak that word, like they're not speaking

615
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: to the urgency of the moment. Yeah, and so we

616
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,120
Speaker 1: try to use this kind of flowery language of like

617
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: democracies on the ballot, but that doesn't No, that doesn't connect,

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00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: Like people don't know what that means. Democracy on the

619
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: bout of course, it is I'm voting, you know, like

620
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: it we have to paint the picture here, and they

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00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,120
Speaker 1: do right, Like they are always painting these pictures of fear.

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00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: And I'm not even saying that we vote out of fear,

623
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: but they are constantly creating these boogeymen for people to

624
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 1: vote against. And I don't again, like, I don't think

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00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:40,839
Speaker 1: that we rely on fear or drum up fear necessarily,

626
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: but I think we need to be clear about the stakes.

627
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: And I also think on the flip side that we

628
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 1: should be clear about what we will do with power.

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Speaker 1: You know, we get we send two more senators tonight

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00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: and we can hold the House. We're going to be

631
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Speaker 1: able to codify Roe v. Wade in this country. Will

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Speaker 1: I mean President Obama said he would, he didn't do

633
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Speaker 1: it yet, Well he didn't have a Senate that would

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Speaker 1: and well he didn't numbers, but you know, usually poorly

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00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: four monthyon numbers. Yeah, And so I mean, well that's

636
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: the thing is that he the Democratic Party. I mean,

637
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 1: this has always been like, this is why I get

638
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,960
Speaker 1: in trouble, right because I talk about the conservatism of

639
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party, and that a lot of times it's

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00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,800
Speaker 1: been more conservative than people think we did not have

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00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: the votes to codify Roe v. Wade because Democrats did

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00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 1: not support codifying Roe v. Wade under the Obama presidency.

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Speaker 1: He may have, you know, President Obama may have, but

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Speaker 1: he did not have. Like the Democratic Senate, you had

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Speaker 1: Joe Manchin and you had a lot more folks like him.

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Speaker 1: Now now you have Raphael Warnock as Off, people in

647
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Speaker 1: the toughest races, John Fetterman, people in the toughest races

648
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Speaker 1: who have already said they're committed to passing, you know,

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Speaker 1: codifying Roe v. Wade. And so we get those, we're

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Speaker 1: going to be able to do that. We hold the House,

651
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Speaker 1: we're going to be able to do that. But we

652
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: also need to engage people and be vote vocal about

653
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Speaker 1: more because it is important that you don't just vote

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Speaker 1: for any Democrat, Like we need to ask them, are

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Speaker 1: you going to codify Roe v Wade? Like are we

656
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Speaker 1: have to? We do need to press folks on the

657
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Speaker 1: issues because if they're not clear, then they're giving themselves

658
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Speaker 1: an out. But when we do the actual counting, we

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Speaker 1: can get there. But you know, it does it it

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Speaker 1: feels like it is this isn't even about debating taxes. Anymore.

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Speaker 1: This is like so far beyond that, and the fact

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Speaker 1: that people's actual civil liberties and rights are on the

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Speaker 1: line is another indicator that we are in this dangerous

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Speaker 1: place in the country, in this country. I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: And it's interesting, as you know, they've been saying that

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Speaker 1: that messaging has been hurting democrats. Like Democrats have been

667
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Speaker 1: focusing on things like the economy as opposed to you know, abortion.

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Speaker 1: What do you think about that? Well, you know, we

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Speaker 1: have been pushing, especially progressives in the party, have been

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Speaker 1: pushing for much more aggressive economic policy. But that requires

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Speaker 1: tackling Wall Street. And I think it's funny because sometimes

672
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Speaker 1: I think some moderate parts of the party they it's like,

673
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 1: you can't have your cake and eat it too. You

674
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: can't fight against more aggressive economic policies when we're governing

675
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Speaker 1: and then complain that we that we're not talking about

676
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Speaker 1: economics enough when we're running for office, right, Like, we

677
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Speaker 1: but we did do a lot of things, but we

678
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Speaker 1: need to do a lot more. Like we were able

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Speaker 1: to cap the price of insulin at thirty five at

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Speaker 1: thirty five dollars a month if you're on Medicare, if

681
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Speaker 1: you're insured, But what about people who are uninsured, right,

682
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Speaker 1: but we were able to also cap if you're on Medicare,

683
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Speaker 1: your prescription drug prices will not be more than two

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars a year starting in January. We are in

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Speaker 1: the House. We've passed a fifteen dollar minimum wage. By

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Speaker 1: this point, I feel like it needs to be twenty

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Speaker 1: three personally, but we passed that. We've been able to

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Speaker 1: and we passed the Inflation Reduction Act, and so we've

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Speaker 1: been able. We're creating nine million climate jobs in this

690
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Speaker 1: country just on climate alone. We start doing that in August.

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Speaker 1: But like, if we want to run on economics, then

692
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Speaker 1: maybe we stop trying to talk down the amount of

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Speaker 1: student loan forgiveness that we're doing. Maybe we try to

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Speaker 1: stop talking down you know, like minimum wage. It was

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Speaker 1: Democrats that voted against increases. Some Democrats in the Senate

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Speaker 1: that voted against increasing the minimum wage. So you know,

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Speaker 1: my recommendation is for folks that are trying to just

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Speaker 1: like blame the left, is the is like, maybe you

699
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Speaker 1: listen to the left. We're trying to do things like

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Speaker 1: expand healthcare and raise wages. I've got a couple more questions.

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Speaker 1: I know, you gotta go back in July, people said,

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Speaker 1: you faked your arrest. What was going on in that situation? No,

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Speaker 1: I I have my summons. I was arrested. Um, when

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Speaker 1: you're arrested, like whether you are cuffed or not, it

705
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Speaker 1: is standard practice, as especially as an activist, that you

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Speaker 1: put your hands back so that they don't get you

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Speaker 1: for resisting or anything like that. And so and I'm

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Speaker 1: from the Bronx and I represent Rikers like and like

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Speaker 1: I'm a woman of color, you know, like I grew

710
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Speaker 1: up in stopping frisk New York City, Like you don't

711
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Speaker 1: catch any more charges than the one you're already catching.

712
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Speaker 1: And but I was arrested, I was processed. I I

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Speaker 1: and like it's you know, people call it performative or so,

714
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Speaker 1: you know, things like that. But there are consequences like

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Speaker 1: if I leave UM office, I can't get I will

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Speaker 1: have problems getting a security clearance again, Like there are

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Speaker 1: real implications. It's not just that you quote unquote get

718
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Speaker 1: arrested and you bounce and you pay fifty dollars or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It is, like there are now there's now precedent and

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Speaker 1: we know this as people of color, where from the

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Speaker 1: time you're fifteen you get stopped by the cops once

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Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, like it's all up

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Speaker 1: in your life and so you know, And it's not

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Speaker 1: to equate those I'm not saying that I'm equating my

725
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Speaker 1: life with that, but it's to say that, like it's

726
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Speaker 1: it's not nothing. And for people who call activism performative,

727
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: all activism has been performative in this country. It is

728
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Speaker 1: designed to create flashpoints of reaction and discussion. And we

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Speaker 1: do need to talk about the fact that in states

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Speaker 1: women are and can be arrested for exercising their human

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Speaker 1: right to bodily autonomy. That's right now, We're not worried

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Speaker 1: about your race. You got an have same chance of women.

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Speaker 1: So we'll give us a prediction for the country. All right,

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Speaker 1: how do you think them's are going to perform? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll start, Well, I'll start in New York. If you're voting,

736
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Speaker 1: If you haven't voted yet in New York, turn out.

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Speaker 1: You can go to I will vote dot com to

738
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Speaker 1: find your vote voting place. You're polling place, and my

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Speaker 1: recommendation is to vote along the working Family's party line.

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Speaker 1: New York, we're very lucky we have fusion voting, so

741
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Speaker 1: if you vote for them, you know I'm a Democratic candidate,

742
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Speaker 1: I'm a Working Families Party candidate. All of those votes

743
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: funnel to the same candidate in the end, and the

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Speaker 1: working fit If you believe that the Democratic Party should

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Speaker 1: be fighting harder and doing more for working people, vote

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Speaker 1: on the WFP line, and it sends that message. As

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Speaker 1: far as what we're gonna see tonight, I really like,

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Speaker 1: on one hand, I think people sometimes are being a

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Speaker 1: lot more pessimistic than what is then, Like I think

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Speaker 1: what may play out, But I think just polling is

751
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Speaker 1: so off. Like let's see Joe Biden saying that we

752
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Speaker 1: could lose the House, and we could. Well, here's this thing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, Democrats are projected or you know, statistically supposed

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Speaker 1: to quote unquote supposed to lose like twenty something seats.

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Speaker 1: So there's a world where we outperform everything and still

756
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Speaker 1: don't keep the majority in terms of polling. But also

757
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Speaker 1: turnout right now is breaking a lot of projections. And

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Speaker 1: you know who's breaking them in particular, young people, right,

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Speaker 1: Young people that they always talk down on us, They

760
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Speaker 1: always call us naive. They always say that we don't

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Speaker 1: turn out the vote. They always say that you know,

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Speaker 1: we don't show up. We're turning out in record numbers,

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Speaker 1: and by twenty twenty four, millennials and Gen Z are

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Speaker 1: set to out number inelectorate people ages boom, you know,

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Speaker 1: people baby boomers and up. And so if we actually

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Speaker 1: turn out and use this power, it's very possible that

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Speaker 1: we could see a dramatic shift in our politics in

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Speaker 1: two three four years if we can hang on to

769
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Speaker 1: our democracy. And so, you know, I think that a

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Speaker 1: lot of the turnout numbers are breaking some of the

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Speaker 1: early polling data, and it's really important that we don't

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Speaker 1: listen to polls as a determination for like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: not going to matter. If I turned to me, it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel like we gotta go. We have to go.

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Speaker 1: When you're pessimistic and you're like this could happen, it

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Speaker 1: makes me feel more like I have to make sure

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Speaker 1: that I go and that I tell other people to

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Speaker 1: go too. Yes, And I'd rather do that than think, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna win. And if you're if you're in Nevada,

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Speaker 1: for example, that polling is within the margin of error,

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Speaker 1: like they're at fifty point four percent, they're like they're

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Speaker 1: within one two three points out there, and What makes

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Speaker 1: the determination is turnout. And when people turn out that

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Speaker 1: aren't expected to turn out, that's literally how I won

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Speaker 1: my race, right right, I won my race. My polls

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Speaker 1: had me thirty five points, like behind or down or

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Speaker 1: at thirty five. You know, it's been a bit, but

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Speaker 1: like there, I was down by it was like thirty

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Speaker 1: five points. And the reason why the polling was so

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Speaker 1: off and so broken in my race is because I

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Speaker 1: turned out poor people, I turned out young people, I

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Speaker 1: turned out working class people, and I turned out black

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Speaker 1: and brown people, and I turned out you know, young

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Speaker 1: white folks too, in a way that broke all of

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Speaker 1: the models. They don't count on us turning out. And so, yeah,

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Speaker 1: the poll's gonna say we're gonna lose, nothing's going to happen.

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Speaker 1: But if you are a person that is usually counted

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Speaker 1: out of our democratic process and you vote, you break

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Speaker 1: this system and you break what is predicted living proof. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it wasn't just us. Then we went out and

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Speaker 1: we did it again with Jamal Bowman. He overturned. Jamal

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Speaker 1: overturned to a twenty something year incumbent that was one

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Speaker 1: of the most powerful people in the House of Representatives.

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Speaker 1: And we did it again and again and again, and

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00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: so it's possible. But we need to like actually believe

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Speaker 1: that we matter, because we do. If there's a red wave,

807
00:47:11,560 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: God forbid, how close are we to the definitive democracy

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Speaker 1: if that happens tonight? Um, you know, I think what

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Speaker 1: is going to be a determinant is so like the

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Speaker 1: one of the real fears here is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: we have a democratic president. And so if we have

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Speaker 1: a democratic president, and especially if we're able to have

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Speaker 1: gains in the Senate or even hold on to the Senate,

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Speaker 1: there's a limit in the bad things that Republicans can do,

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Speaker 1: but they can inflict a lot of damage. They already

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Speaker 1: said because spending originates in the House. They said that

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Speaker 1: they will not authorize the debt ceiling, a debt limit,

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Speaker 1: which would be catastrophic for not just the US economy,

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Speaker 1: but the global economy. They will do that in order

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Speaker 1: to cut social security and medicare. But the real fear

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Speaker 1: in terms of our democracy is whether they would certify

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty four election if it turns out in

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Speaker 1: a way that if they don't win it. Basically, that's

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Speaker 1: the real fear here. And you know, I know that

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Speaker 1: there's legislation that has been coursing through Congress to try

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Speaker 1: to beef up that protocol that was basically exploited on

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Speaker 1: January sixth, where that let people believe in this delusion

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Speaker 1: that Mike Pennce had the power to like not authorize

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Speaker 1: the election, which is just not true. But you know,

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Speaker 1: if that doesn't hold, then we have a very immediate

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Speaker 1: democratic risk in small, d our democracy is them not

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Speaker 1: voting to certify any election that they don't win in

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Speaker 1: that's I mean, for real, and they've already indicated as

834
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Speaker 1: such in places like Wisconsin and rhetoric like Carry Lakes,

835
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Speaker 1: like they're saying it out in the open that you

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Speaker 1: let us win this one time, then a Republican will

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Speaker 1: never lose again. And that's not because they don't actually

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00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: they didn't actually lose because they won't concede. And it's

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Speaker 1: because they will they will try to take things by force,

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Speaker 1: and they have in the past fascism. That's why you

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Speaker 1: got yeah, yeah, real right now, And then you know,

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Speaker 1: I talk about organizing the on season, the off season,

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Speaker 1: right and the on season with elections, but what we

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00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,839
Speaker 1: do with those elections all also matter, and so like

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Speaker 1: it's important for people to not only vote, but to

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Speaker 1: also engage in a struggle of some kind, whether and

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Speaker 1: anything that's important to you, whether it's housing and seeing

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Speaker 1: if there's housing organizing, tenants, unions that are forming in

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Speaker 1: your area, whether it is your workplace unionizing, if you're

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Speaker 1: being being you know, exploited in your workplace, whether it

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Speaker 1: is criminal justice, and whether it's you know, like abolitionist organizing.

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Speaker 1: I think it's important for people to engage in community.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, like that's our

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Speaker 1: biggest long term defense of this is that when we

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Speaker 1: engage in community, then it's a lot harder for these

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Speaker 1: lives to travel the way that they do. We live

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Speaker 1: in such an exploitative moment in history that people are

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Speaker 1: very isolated. And they're isolated because you got to wake

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Speaker 1: up first thing in the morning, clock in, go to work,

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Speaker 1: work one shift, two shifts, come back, sleep, eat, and

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Speaker 1: you do it all over again, and there's no time

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Speaker 1: to commune. And back in the day like this was,

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Speaker 1: this was the labor movements demand eight hours for rest,

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Speaker 1: eight hours for work, eight hours for what you will,

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Speaker 1: and that what you will is when is that fabric,

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Speaker 1: it's when you're in Girl Scouts. It's when you're in

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Speaker 1: Elks club meetings. It was like all of that like

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Speaker 1: kind of old school stuff that we think about community boards,

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Speaker 1: Like engaging in community is one of our best defenses.

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Speaker 1: And so my recommendation to people is to really do

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Speaker 1: that work. And like it's not enough to be on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: like who are you with in person? What are you building?

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Speaker 1: And it could be literally anything. It doesn't have to

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Speaker 1: be as political quote unquote explicitly political as people think

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Speaker 1: it is. Like even if you're just doing a food drive,

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Speaker 1: even if you're just you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: stuff that we do that people think isn't political, but

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Speaker 1: it is. And when you engage in any sort of way,

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Speaker 1: even volunteering, you're building that social fabric and you're inoculating

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Speaker 1: yourself from that politics of division. Absolutely AOC, thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us today. I'm going to go vote now. Yes,

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Speaker 1: let's do it close open. They close at nine pm

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Speaker 1: in New York State. All right, it's AOC. Is the

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Speaker 1: breakfast clause. Thank you everybody,