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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk to our buddy Chris Sims here

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Speaker 1: on a Tuesday. Normally joins us every Thursday, but when

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Speaker 1: the holidays coming up, we'll do it on a Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Today PFT with Mike Florio every day.

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Speaker 2: Check it out.

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Speaker 1: It's on Peacock The Unbuttoned Podcast as well Football Night

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Speaker 1: in America. Taylor has a question about you applying makeup.

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Speaker 1: We'll get to that in just a second. Here, I

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Speaker 1: have a question about the best Christmas gift you have

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Speaker 1: ever received, Chris sick gosh.

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Speaker 3: You know that's that's a tough one. And I mean

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna forget something here. I mean really probably something

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Speaker 3: sports memorabilia wise, would probably be the things that stand

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Speaker 3: out to me right as a little kid. I know,

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Speaker 3: I got a Magic Johnson autographed basketball that was like whoa,

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Speaker 3: that was pretty special, right Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Derek Jeter baseball bats.

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Speaker 3: Signed by him at one point in my life that

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Speaker 3: was pretty damn good too.

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Speaker 4: So I feel like that's where it would be right now.

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Speaker 3: Every now and then I got a brother in law

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Speaker 3: and stuff, they might buy me some weed for Christmas

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Speaker 3: that he can never go wrong with.

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Speaker 4: That.

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Speaker 3: That's a good brother in law. Maa man, Yes, exactly right,

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Speaker 3: he understands there. But yeah, I guess that's it. If

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Speaker 3: I think of something else, I'll hit you up with

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Speaker 3: that here and as.

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Speaker 2: We go on, Okay, do you have the Magic Johnson ball? Still?

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 3: It's actually at my mom and dad's house still, but yes, definitely,

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Speaker 3: Magic Johnson will go down as one of the coolest superstars.

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Speaker 4: I ever hung out with, or it was around in

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Speaker 4: my life.

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Speaker 3: Right as a young kid at the Quarterback Challenge in

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Speaker 3: nineteen ninety one or ninety two out in Hawaii, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know why Magic Johnson was there, but he

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Speaker 3: was there, and I remember, I'll never forget. We're sitting

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Speaker 3: in a little, you know, lounge by the pool and

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Speaker 3: he was at a table with Warren Moon and I

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Speaker 3: was like, holy crap, Dad, that's Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 4: And I mean, he couldn't have been cooler, nicer, Hey,

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Speaker 4: sit down, hang out, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 3: Then fast forward to an NFL game like a year later. Right,

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Speaker 3: I'm sitting in the mezzanine level a giant stadium on

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Speaker 3: the front row. I'm walking up and in one of

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Speaker 3: the the uh suites, right is Magic Johnson and he

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Speaker 3: waving to me and tells me to come in.

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Speaker 4: And I mean that's why. I mean, he's the man.

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Speaker 4: He'll go right, you know.

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Speaker 3: Now, it wasn't hard to pick me out in the

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Speaker 3: crowd because I looked exactly like Phil Simms and my

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Speaker 3: hair was white, right, so but but nonetheless he did

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Speaker 3: remember me, and he's as cool as they get, as

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Speaker 3: far as a superstar.

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Speaker 1: So you're at that table and it's Magic and Warren

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Speaker 1: and knowing your dad the way I do, You're like,

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Speaker 1: holy shit, there's Magic Johnson and big fuckers like, hey,

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Speaker 1: that's fucking Warren Moon.

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Speaker 3: Well, definitely, and you know those were spect times as

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Speaker 3: a young kid.

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Speaker 4: I mean yeah, I mean between.

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Speaker 3: Me badgering and wanting to hang out with Magic Johnson

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Speaker 3: and then following Randall Cunningham around that whole week and

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Speaker 3: him probably be like, hey, kid, get the fuck away

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Speaker 3: from me, right, I had some good.

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Speaker 4: Times, Sims.

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Speaker 5: The highlight of my week is when Maria Taylor posts

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Speaker 5: her tiktoks the reels and it's always you dancing on

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Speaker 5: the Sunday night football set. If you want to take

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Speaker 5: the next step, you have to start posting to get

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Speaker 5: ready with me where you're doing your makeup application and

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Speaker 5: you're kind of walking through the viewers through what you're doing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you're funny And no, that's not gonna happen

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Speaker 3: just because you saw me with makeup. Okay, because on

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Speaker 3: these shows on days like this, we don't have anybody

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Speaker 3: on makeup here for NBC, so I kind of got

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Speaker 3: to do it on my own. So I got a

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Speaker 3: little makeup purse here just so you see it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I gotta I have shiny skin.

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Speaker 4: I have oily skin.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: People always tell me that's why you know, you don't

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Speaker 3: look like you're twenty five years old and you look

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Speaker 3: younger than that. But at the same time, for TV,

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Speaker 3: I mean, my forehead becomes a fucking mirror sometimes if

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Speaker 3: I don't put and I look greasy. So yeah, you

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Speaker 3: caught me putting on a little on there. Uh so

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Speaker 3: ye screw you for that, all right?

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Speaker 2: I say this respectfully. Is NBC doing okay?

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Speaker 1: Like, like, why can't they afford a makeup person for you?

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Speaker 3: I don't understand they they they contend to cheap out

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Speaker 3: on some things where.

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Speaker 4: You go, what huh, what what?

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Speaker 3: What are you kidding me, But yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 3: what to say there. Yeah, I think they're doing okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, we're we just got NBA Basketball.

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Speaker 3: We're paying a ton of money for that.

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Speaker 4: We got baseball, so we obviously got some cash going.

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Speaker 1: On billions on sports properties, right, and you can't get

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Speaker 1: forri Simpson makeup. Well that's why, Yeah, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 5: The last piece of advice I have, Sims is we

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Speaker 5: have Jesus. We have a group chat me, Mikey and

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Speaker 5: Stu that's dedicated to just on in Night Football where

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Speaker 5: we talk about how you're doing on Sunday Night Football.

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Speaker 5: The Bay sweater. You gotta lose it. You look like

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Speaker 5: mister Rogers up there like Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 3: Well that was three weeks ago. Fuck Chase, So where

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Speaker 3: the fuck were you with that advice?

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Speaker 4: Last? All right? Yeah, I mean what are you talking about?

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Speaker 1: Yes, all right, we've arrived at the place I've wanted

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Speaker 1: to arrive at for the season where Sims hates Taylor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, I like his hat today I was about to

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Speaker 3: compliment the compliment the hat.

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Speaker 4: I do like that.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean when I you know, as I

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Speaker 3: say to my boss, sometimes when I start taking fashion

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Speaker 3: advice from you and how you look, then fucking a

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Speaker 3: it might be over all right, And I'll say the

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Speaker 3: same to Taylor. I'm a fashion advice from Taylor negative

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Speaker 3: ghost rider the patterns full?

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Speaker 4: All right, well, yeah, totally fair.

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Speaker 2: No, I understand it.

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Speaker 1: That's sims. Are the Are the forty nine ers? This

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Speaker 1: is crazy. It's not recency bias. It's not because I

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Speaker 1: watched them play last night. Are the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL?

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Speaker 4: I don't think so. No, no, not not at all.

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Speaker 3: I'm not you know, it's funny and I don't think

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are all that good.

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Speaker 4: Really.

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Speaker 1: It still played so well the last five games. Man,

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Speaker 1: they do they're dangerous.

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Speaker 3: And this is where you get into the conversation a

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Speaker 3: little bit about like Man Shanahan and what he's doing

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Speaker 3: this year. All right, it's a tough year for Coach

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Speaker 3: of the Year. I get it because of Ben Johnson

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Speaker 3: and Vrabel and Liam Khane and what he's doing Mike

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Speaker 3: McDonald up in Seattle. But if you told the public, hey,

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Speaker 3: we don't know any of the receivers on the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers and Mac Jones and the forty nineers are

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Speaker 3: gonna go five and two and they're not gonna run

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Speaker 3: the ball that well, and Nick Bosa and Fred Warner

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Speaker 3: are not gonna play the whole year, and we're gonna

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Speaker 3: have injuries and they're gonna be in the running for

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Speaker 3: the number one seed. I think most people have been like,

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Speaker 3: are you kidding me? No way, no way, It's incredible

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Speaker 3: what they're doing.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean the last few weeks they've they've been good,

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Speaker 3: but I don't think it's exactly Murderer's row. And they're

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Speaker 3: playing too right Cardinals, Panthers, Browns, Titans, Colts, all of that,

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers are gonna be a pain in

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Speaker 3: the ass in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: But I think the other thing I worry about when

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Speaker 4: they got.

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Speaker 3: To play some to top notch defenses, right, are they

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Speaker 3: scary enough at receiver to back off some of the

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Speaker 3: aggressive defenses that will go, wait, we can stop the

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Speaker 3: run in McCaffrey because we feel good we can play

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Speaker 3: man out here against your receivers. There's that, And then

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Speaker 3: my biggest concern against the really good teams is, again

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Speaker 3: you watched it on Monday night, their defense is not

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Speaker 3: that great. I mean, Philip Rivers had his way, he

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Speaker 3: can't throw the ball past twenty yards and did whatever

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Speaker 3: he wanted throwing the football. So that's what scares me

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Speaker 3: about them. And you heard Troyikman during the telecast going, yeah,

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Speaker 3: they really can't pressure with the front four, right, So

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Speaker 3: that's an issue when you're starting to play some of

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Speaker 3: the better teams in the NFC. You go, wait, now

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Speaker 3: you're gonna blitz and you're gonna leave some corners that

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Speaker 3: most people in America don't know other than demandre Lenore

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Speaker 3: and go, wait, we're gonna cover them one on one.

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Speaker 3: So the forty nine ers amazing, but I don't think

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Speaker 3: their talent is on par with some of the better

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Speaker 3: teams in the NFC.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't think that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm just saying it for this reason. Forget about

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Speaker 2: the last five games.

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Speaker 1: They did beat Seattle in Seattle, they did beat the

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Speaker 1: Rams in LA. They were healthier than and I understand

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Speaker 1: what you're saying. They're not nearly as healthy now. They're

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Speaker 1: not playing great teams. They're overwhelming though, that's all I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: They've won the last five games by double digits.

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Speaker 3: Each of they bring it, they bring it, and Shanahan

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Speaker 3: brings it every week and they attack and they're not

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Speaker 3: afraid to take chances.

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Speaker 4: And what I would tell you was Shanahan too.

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Speaker 3: He's one of the few out there that still manages

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Speaker 3: football games.

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Speaker 4: It isn't just go for it go.

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Speaker 3: He punts, he plays field position, and he delves the

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Speaker 3: game the right way. And it's a dying breed in

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Speaker 3: the NFL of coaches that actually manage the game, and

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Speaker 3: he is one of them out there that still does it.

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Speaker 5: Two games have given me more of an appreciation for

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Speaker 5: for Phil Rivers, but it does seem like an indictment

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Speaker 4: I don't like that we have a quarterback problem. No,

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Speaker 4: we don't.

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Speaker 3: We have an offensive coordinator problem. As you've heard me

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Speaker 3: Malik Willis should be a starting quarterback in football. There's

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Speaker 3: to stop recycling dumb fucking coordinators.

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Speaker 4: Where we go.

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Speaker 4: What so?

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Speaker 6: Taylor Sims in a day where we can have forty

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Speaker 6: five year old quarterbacks. For a second, I want you

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Speaker 4: What do you saying to DK metcalf.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I you know DK metcalf one, he's got to

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Speaker 4: I like DK Metcalf.

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Speaker 4: And this might be the week where it hurts them too,

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Speaker 3: And listen, I don't care. And I know there's some

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Speaker 3: go Pitiful stuff is always said from the stands, always, Okay,

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Speaker 3: you gotta block it out. It does not justify going

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Speaker 3: If some of these things that we are being reported

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Speaker 2: But you would agree that if fans had the fear

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Speaker 1: If they live with the fear of DK Metcalf may

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Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't act like assholes.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I know that, but but again, you know

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Speaker 4: Why are you listening to some idiot in a blue

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Speaker 3: I'm just like you, just playing the other side, man.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it goes on everywhere. I mean, if that

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Speaker 3: he's in Philadelphia, he should just go around the whole

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Speaker 4: Everyone, just take a turn. Just hey, I fuck you,

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Speaker 4: fuck you, fuck you, fuck you, and just go.

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Speaker 2: Okay, listen, I thought Twin Williams is gonna go punch

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Speaker 1: I shut the funk up, That's all I'm telling Yeah, No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I definitely would be scared of DK Mattcat,

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to mess with him.

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Speaker 3: Uh. Is Trevor Lawrence good? Hey, what do you guys

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Speaker 3: tell me? You gotta say now, mothersuckers?

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Speaker 6: Hey, integrity journalism. We asked when he's terrible, we're asking

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Speaker 6: when he's good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, this is the spot where I show integrity.

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Speaker 4: You're right, He's He's on fire right now. That's it.

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Speaker 3: And you know, I just don't think you can like

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Speaker 3: we've had these discussions, right, We've had these discussions a

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Speaker 3: I've tried to say this to you guys a few times.

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Speaker 4: He's going through a crash course. He went through a

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Speaker 3: He's never had an offensive genius coach him. Offensive geniuses

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Speaker 3: I think he was swimming for a while. I mean again, right,

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Speaker 3: we got enough video evidence where there was a while

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Speaker 3: he's an idiot. He's I don't know what he's gonna do.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, holy crap. Now he's like, you're the

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Speaker 4: Bo. He's like, he's like, you're you're on fire.

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Speaker 3: It's changed because he's running the offense exactly the way

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Speaker 4: He's doing the right things with the ball.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten confident in where he is mentally in the offense,

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Speaker 3: he's fucking right all the time, right, And I think

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Speaker 1: We thought we might see when he got drafted. So

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Speaker 1: the physical talent has always been there. It stands out

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Speaker 3: Well, I think the big thing is the really good

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Speaker 4: So there's a lot of mental gymnastics that.

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Speaker 4: It works right exactly.

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Speaker 3: Like Devin mccordy told a story on Football Night in

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Speaker 3: And he was right a few times, and he told

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Speaker 3: Josh says, like, I mean, he was like crystal Ball

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Speaker 4: Stuff a few times. So I think that's what happens.

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Speaker 3: We don't got time to sit there and hitch seven

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Speaker 3: So now it's plays that deliver coaching points. Feel in

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Speaker 3: this in a lot of big games, I mean a lot.

439
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

440
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Speaker 3: And as you've earned me say too, it's always their

441
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Speaker 3: stars in the big games.

442
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Speaker 4: That's what's kind of troubling to me.

443
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,639
Speaker 3: Derek Henry fumbles a Flowers fumble, right, Lamar Jackson the

444
00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 3: playoff fumble interception. It just always seems that way. And yeah,

445
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 3: their inability to kind of manage games and do the

446
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 3: things the right way at the end of a football

447
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,800
Speaker 3: game too, with these these you know, leads has.

448
00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,120
Speaker 4: Been an issue for Baltimore too. But no, I'm still.

449
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:17,280
Speaker 3: Gonna take New England doing the right things and Drake

450
00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 3: may he still had to make some a lot of

451
00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: big plays on that comeback to take that game back

452
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,160
Speaker 3: and put it in control.

453
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Speaker 4: They're a more complete team than the Ravens.

454
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Speaker 3: And the Lamar Jackson injury certainly, you know, took a

455
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 3: little win out of the sales of the Ravens on

456
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Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball.

457
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Speaker 1: Chris, I'm wondering, are you, I know you like cam

458
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,479
Speaker 1: Ward coming out of college. Are you convinced with the

459
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Speaker 1: right players around him and the right coaching staff. You

460
00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,240
Speaker 1: talked about Liam Cohen and what he's done for Trevor Lawrence,

461
00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600
Speaker 1: are you convinced that cam Ward is going to be

462
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:43,760
Speaker 1: a good quarterback in the end.

463
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Speaker 4: Definitely, one hundred percent. Definitely. He just needs a he

464
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,120
Speaker 4: needs he needs what we just.

465
00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,159
Speaker 3: Have talked about, a guy in there to kind of

466
00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:52,959
Speaker 3: give him a plan and how to play.

467
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:54,720
Speaker 4: And they need a few more players.

468
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:56,879
Speaker 3: But I think you're seeing here the last few weeks,

469
00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,200
Speaker 3: even in the loss against the forty nine ers, there

470
00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,600
Speaker 3: was some wow threat and plays. Last week the same thing.

471
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 3: We're seeing a lot less of the negative plays. And

472
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: again that's where you gotta get used to it. In

473
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:10,159
Speaker 3: college football, he could get away with things. Wait, I'm

474
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,000
Speaker 3: gonna make this guy missing, this guy miss and by

475
00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,119
Speaker 3: a little time, and then throw some laser down the

476
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Speaker 3: football field. You know, in the NFL, it's like, wait,

477
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna make this guy miss.

478
00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 4: Oh no, I'm not.

479
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 3: He tackled me. I'm going down right, I'm gonna make

480
00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 3: this guy missing. Oh, I'm gonna throw a laser. Oh

481
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,920
Speaker 3: it's interception. And damn that guy closes down the ball

482
00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 3: up better than the guy at University of Pittsburgh did

483
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 3: last year. So there's a there's a there's a maturation

484
00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,840
Speaker 3: that takes part here. I think we're seeing it right

485
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 3: in front of her eyes. To me, the big thing

486
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:37,119
Speaker 3: is one, is he a leader?

487
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,760
Speaker 4: Yes? Is he tough? Yes? Right?

488
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,320
Speaker 3: Is there improvement yes? He sees the field well yes?

489
00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: And then does he have the talent and the arm

490
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:46,959
Speaker 3: to back it up?

491
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Speaker 4: Yes? So I have all the faith in cam Ward

492
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Speaker 4: there Darrell Reeves went to pitt I mean, come on, man.

493
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:58,600
Speaker 3: Well yeah, twenty years ago, all right, but you know, right,

494
00:21:58,880 --> 00:21:59,880
Speaker 3: so that Tony dor.

495
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Speaker 4: Set he used to be good. They were legends there

496
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,200
Speaker 4: for a while.

497
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 3: They were in a legendary program the end of the

498
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:07,159
Speaker 3: seventies early eighties.

499
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Speaker 1: Holy crap, Yeah, they were great. Did you did you

500
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Speaker 1: see anything you liked out of quinn Ewers? Anything I did?

501
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 4: I did. That was a tough spot to be in.

502
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 4: That's a worse spot, you know.

503
00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:17,280
Speaker 2: No, I wasn't.

504
00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:17,680
Speaker 4: I wasn't.

505
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 2: I wasn't joking around.

506
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 1: I was being serious. I want to get out with

507
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:22,480
Speaker 1: some hope here. You know, Yeah, no, I I did

508
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:23,520
Speaker 1: see some things.

509
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 3: I mean one, you know, he was in a tough

510
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 3: spot too, where I think it became pretty apparent early

511
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 3: on the football game. It was like, oh, no, we

512
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:32,240
Speaker 3: can't stop them. We're not going to stop Joe Burrow.

513
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:34,679
Speaker 3: And then we're gonna have to kind of push the

514
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,640
Speaker 3: envelope and have to throw the ball maybe a little

515
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,840
Speaker 3: bit more than we wanted to with quinn Ewers. But

516
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 3: you see, he's got the ability to, like I said

517
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: last week, be slick with the ball. He does have

518
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 3: power in his arm, and he threw some balls with

519
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:49,760
Speaker 3: some authority.

520
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:50,760
Speaker 4: In the football game and all that.

521
00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,760
Speaker 3: But yeah, they need to they can't play, hey, quinn

522
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,359
Speaker 3: Ewers carry us here. They need to play a complete

523
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 3: football game with a rookie quarterback that way. But I

524
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:03,159
Speaker 3: did see some you know, the interceptions weren't egregious. I

525
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 3: can't remember the first one. The second one I remember

526
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 3: is in cut. He tried to fit it into a

527
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: tight window. Because he's pushing the envelope a little bit,

528
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,119
Speaker 3: ball pops in the air. He kind of put the

529
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,760
Speaker 3: ball where you wanted it to. It's just the coverage

530
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 3: was tight. We'll see if he can make an improvement

531
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Speaker 3: this week.

532
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Speaker 2: It's interesting, Sims.

533
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Speaker 1: I'm looking at the AFC playoff standings, like if it

534
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 1: held right now, Houston would be the seventh seed.

535
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,280
Speaker 2: And I'm wondering is the only.

536
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: Team so it's Denver, Patriots, Jaguars, Steelers, Chargers, Bills, Texas.

537
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Speaker 1: The only team that's going to surprise you if they

538
00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: make it to San Francisco is the Steelers.

539
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:35,840
Speaker 4: Right out of that.

540
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:40,120
Speaker 3: Group pretty much pretty much crazy. And I think I'm

541
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,679
Speaker 3: getting to a point here where usually, like with the

542
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 3: Steelers especially, I kind of go I don't want the

543
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,240
Speaker 3: Steelers in the playoffs. I don't want to see him,

544
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 3: But the way they're playing here as of late, I'm

545
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,800
Speaker 3: starting to go, like, nah, out of some of the

546
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 3: other options we got, I want to see them. I

547
00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: feel like their offensive line starting to move people in

548
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 3: the running game.

549
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 4: And if they can do.

550
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 3: That, then Rogers life and him not being so aggressive

551
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,119
Speaker 3: and pushing the ball down the field won't be on

552
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 3: so display. He'll be able to go, hey, run the ball,

553
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:16,120
Speaker 3: good completion here. We'll keep the clock running with smart passes,

554
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:19,119
Speaker 3: and I'll take my tactical shot to DK or one

555
00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 3: of these guys down the field from time to time.

556
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 3: The defense was impressive too. We're seeing them be a

557
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,480
Speaker 3: little bit more physical and stout up front. We'll see

558
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,879
Speaker 3: if that continues. But I think you're right out of

559
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 3: all the teams that are gonna be in the AFC playoffs,

560
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 3: and I think the seven you said are going to

561
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: be the ones that are in it.

562
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 2: Right.

563
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:36,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Pittsburgh would still be the only team

564
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,880
Speaker 3: I'd look at to go.

565
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Speaker 4: I don't think they can get to the super Bowl.

566
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Speaker 4: Then that would go.

567
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Speaker 3: The Chargers would be that next team where again they

568
00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,479
Speaker 3: can make it. I got more confidence, but I think

569
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 3: they'd be next in that pecking order for me to go.

570
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 3: I'm not sure they can win three games and get

571
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Speaker 3: all the way there.

572
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Speaker 2: If the Texans could just get a little bit more

573
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Speaker 2: from CJ. Stroud in that offense, Christ, they might go

574
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Speaker 2: to the super Bowl.

575
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Speaker 3: Jesus, they do, And I think they were a little

576
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: bit human emotions. We've been on fire lately. We've been

577
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 3: playing great. Right, Oh, it's the Raiders. They stink We're

578
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 3: gonna steamroll them. The Raiders are Pete Carroll's fighting for

579
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: his life Gino Smith's fighting for his life. Ashton Genty's

580
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 3: trying to prove he's not a bust as a top

581
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 3: ten pick. I think it was one of those games

582
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 3: a little bit there, But yeah, the big question will

583
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 3: be the consistency of that offense and can they make

584
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 3: enough plays on that side of the ball to help

585
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:28,640
Speaker 3: their defense out.

586
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Speaker 4: Weall you know from time to time.

587
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Speaker 5: Sims, what are realistic expectations for the Chicago Bears as

588
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 5: they enter the playoffs because it feels like they're almost

589
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:39,120
Speaker 5: playing with house money because at the very least their

590
00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,240
Speaker 5: fan base knows they hit on their head coach, and

591
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 5: they hit on that quarterback.

592
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, they lose if they lose their first round playoff game,

593
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 1: the fans are still going to be.

594
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 4: Happy there, right, Definitely, it's a win.

595
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 3: It's a win, and I wouldn't be shocked if they

596
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 3: lost their first round football game.

597
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 4: And I hear you there.

598
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 3: But nonetheless, they are the things that jump out to

599
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 3: me about the Bears is one, they're crazy physical, right,

600
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: They're crazy physical. They when I watch them, and of

601
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 3: course you guys know you see the way they run

602
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: the ball and the way they move people that's special.

603
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 3: And even though their defense isn't super talented, they bring it.

604
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 3: That's the one thing you see from this bench. It's

605
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 3: almost like Shanahan the forty nine ers. It's like these

606
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 3: guys have no regard for their body at all. That's

607
00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,960
Speaker 3: what I do love. Yeah, they need another offseason of

608
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,840
Speaker 3: just getting another you know, awesomer two or three defensive

609
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,359
Speaker 3: players and then you'll go, whoah, they're a super Bowl team.

610
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,040
Speaker 3: But yeah, they're playing with house money. They're still gonna

611
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 3: be dangerous as hell. And I'll tell you this, that's

612
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 3: gonna be one of my upsets this week. I think

613
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 3: they're gonna go into San Francisco and beat the forty

614
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:43,879
Speaker 3: nine ers on Sunday night. I do That's where the

615
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 3: forty nine ers defense will scare me a little bit, right.

616
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: It's this kind of matchup where you go, man, they

617
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,320
Speaker 3: got some talent. They're gonna have some ways to run

618
00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 3: the ball. The forty nine ers aren't super talented in

619
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 3: the secondary, and that can lend us some big plays

620
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 3: off of that as well.

621
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Speaker 4: You know.

622
00:26:58,240 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 3: I you know, out of I try to pick two

623
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:02,280
Speaker 3: were three upsets every week. That's one I certainly got

624
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:02,720
Speaker 3: my eye on.

625
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 2: All right, Bears plus three right now on the FanDuel sportsbook.

626
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 2: I don't even know who you could pare. Caleb Williams too.

627
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,640
Speaker 2: I've never seen anyone like him, honestly.

628
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 3: Chris Well, that's why, like people ask me to go

629
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: redraft right now, what would you do? And I'm like,

630
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 3: I would still take Caleb Williams. Yes, yes, I would.

631
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 3: I know Drake may Is, Damn Good and Bo Nicks

632
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 3: and Jayde Daniels.

633
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: My people would take Caleb Williams. I mean, I think,

634
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: I think so.

635
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: I think those are still a bit of a like

636
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,159
Speaker 3: the haters out there with Kayleb Williams that are just

637
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,760
Speaker 3: they can't get over that his nails are painted and

638
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 3: that he had a pink phone at one point. So

639
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 3: there's there's just some of them that they just are like,

640
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 3: he's gonna have to win a Super Bowl before I

641
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:43,119
Speaker 3: believe he's good. Right, There's a little bit of that,

642
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,960
Speaker 3: And there's definitely an old school faction in the NFL

643
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: that you know how that is. It is just that

644
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 3: well he's different, Oh he's different. Well why is he

645
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:53,359
Speaker 3: different because his nails are painted? I mean, to me,

646
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 3: he throws fucking lasers, He scrambles he throws touchdowns, he

647
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 3: looks good.

648
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 4: To me on the run. He does that. He throws lasers.

649
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: Yes, he's insane, and that's where I would still take

650
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 3: him one. He has the most potential of the group.

651
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 3: You're seeing it get better. You know, it wasn't perfect

652
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:11,120
Speaker 3: the other night. Again, still so it's still a process here.

653
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 3: But yeah, Caleb Williams, I mean it's it's it's I

654
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 3: think the guys you compare him to, or's it's mahomes Ish, Right, Yeah,

655
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 3: that's really what it is. It's mahomessh, it's Josh allen

656
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: Ish where you go. Wait, he can run the system,

657
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Speaker 3: but if the system's out there, watch out because he

658
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 3: can make some of the damnedest scrambles and by time

659
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Speaker 3: and plays that way to where you feel like only

660
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Speaker 3: the special ones can do the do some of that

661
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Speaker 3: stuff there.

662
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Speaker 2: Taylor put that on the poll. If we redrafted the

663
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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams draft and Rabel had the first pick, would

664
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Speaker 2: he take Caleb Williams or Drake May Oh, it'd.

665
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Speaker 3: Be interesting, you know, to that question, though, I would

666
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 3: tell you I think Rabel would take Drake May. I

667
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 3: don't think Caleb Williams is his kind of quarterback. And

668
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 3: I do think there's some teams that I think, I think.

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Speaker 2: I understand what you're saying. Yes, like your dad.

670
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 3: A bigger quarterback, right, We had guys when I was

671
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 3: in New England, we had a certain you had a

672
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Speaker 3: set of like, wait, what is this guy's for each position?

673
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,520
Speaker 3: He's got to be about this height, he's got to

674
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Speaker 3: be about this size.

675
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Speaker 4: We don't like that.

676
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Speaker 3: I don't think they're a team that loves smaller quarterbacks

677
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 3: like a Kayleb Williams. Sure, and I think they would

678
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 3: have probably with a Vrabel would probably take Drake May.

679
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Speaker 4: But that's not who I would take, all right, So.

680
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Speaker 5: In the redraft, was Jayden Daniels still at two or

681
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Speaker 5: was Drake May moving.

682
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Speaker 1: Up to Jaden Daniels would have been won in the

683
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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game a year ago.

684
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Speaker 4: I mean no, I've stayed strong.

685
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 3: I still would stay with Kayleb Williams throughout, but it

686
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:36,760
Speaker 3: is very close.

687
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Speaker 4: I feel like I would take Drake May over Jayden Daniels.

688
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I do, but it's it's it's tough, and then

689
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Speaker 3: you get into Dan. We got to give bo Nick

690
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 3: some fucking credit here at some point too, for what

691
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 3: he's always doing and and and you know, winning football games.

692
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Speaker 1: No question what a class was. Was mel kiper right

693
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: about your door Standers. I like your door Sanders. I

694
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Speaker 1: think he's pretty good.

695
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Speaker 4: I do too.

696
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Speaker 3: You know I had she Door Sanders over Jackson Dart.

697
00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,920
Speaker 3: I know I never backed away from that. Right now,

698
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: I feel I'm wrong about that. Jackson Dhart is who

699
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 3: you would want over Shadur Sanders. Yes, but I'm not

700
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 3: ready to give up on Shaduur. I'm not does he

701
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 3: got to clean up some things, certainly. Yeah, he still

702
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 3: takes some bad sacks, and he's not always perfect in

703
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Speaker 3: the pocket.

704
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Speaker 4: You see, he moves pretty well.

705
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 3: He's made some very good scrambles and playing His arm

706
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,320
Speaker 3: looks strong as hell to me. Right the interceptions last week,

707
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: they hurt. They were bad, There's no doubt about that.

708
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,440
Speaker 3: I mean, he threw a ball way too hard to

709
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 3: behind a guy, you know, in the flat early on.

710
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 3: It popped up in the air and they were kind

711
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Speaker 3: of driving in a field goal range. And then of

712
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 3: course the interception in the third quarter was big because

713
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: the Bills couldn't do shit in the second half.

714
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Speaker 4: Go back and look.

715
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: Their three points came off of Schaduur tip pass interception

716
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 3: because he held the ball too long and both and

717
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 3: the Bills got two yards to kick the field goal

718
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 3: and those three points won them the game. But no,

719
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Speaker 3: I'm with you in that. I like the way Shadur looks.

720
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't give up on that if I'm Cleveland.

721
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Speaker 2: All right, Just get to the big games. There's so

722
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Speaker 2: many of them this weekend.

723
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Speaker 1: Check them out PFT with my Florio every day on

724
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 1: Peacock The Unbuttoned Podcast as well Football Night in America.

725
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Speaker 2: Let's start with Houston at the Chargers.

726
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: Such a good game. Houston is plus one and a

727
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: half right now on FANDIL.

728
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 4: Who do you like? I know I've gone back and

729
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 4: forth with this one.

730
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 3: All right, I'm going to take the Houston Texas to

731
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: win the football game twenty to seventeen. But I don't

732
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 3: feel great about that. I don't and I'm not even joking.

733
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 3: And I write these down and my notes on my computer.

734
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: Last night, I had the Chargers twenty seventeen. Then I

735
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: put the Texans twenty seventeen, and then I was like

736
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 3: about to go back to the Chargers, and I was like,

737
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,320
Speaker 3: you know what, I'm gonna stay with what I think

738
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: the Texas are going to do this. I think here

739
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: here's my two cents on the game, just real quick.

740
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 4: One.

741
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 3: The Chargers, Yes, damn good, we know that. I think

742
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 3: this is a game though, where justin Herbert, who's always

743
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 3: under pressure, having these issues, this is not the game

744
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 3: you want to deal with with Houston. I think Houston

745
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: can slow them down to a point to where it's

746
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 3: gonna make it a defensive football game. I worry about Houston,

747
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,120
Speaker 3: right and if they become throwing the ball every play,

748
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 3: like you've heard me say, nobody can throw the ball

749
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 3: every play on the Chargers, nobody. You saw Dallas last week,

750
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 3: they had a few good first drives to start the

751
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 3: game and then it was like, oh shit, they can't

752
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 3: find a way to throw the ball on this team too.

753
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: But I do think Houston will stay patient with their

754
00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: run balanced that way, they know who they are, they

755
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 3: know they're a defensive team, and then it'll be short,

756
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 3: you know, high completion.

757
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 4: Percentage type passes there.

758
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 3: It's not one that I would bet on, but I'm

759
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Speaker 3: gonna take Houston winning on the road.

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Speaker 1: By three here, all right, So let's do this. Why

761
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: don't you give us your best bets for the weekend

762
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: coming up here?

763
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, all right, here we go.

764
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,360
Speaker 1: So do we want to do Thursday night here? Or

765
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Speaker 1: is this a Thursday night only? He can only pick

766
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:40,080
Speaker 1: those on Thursday?

767
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,320
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, listen, I picked the Cowboys to win

768
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Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty.

769
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Speaker 4: Right, if Marcus Mariota is.

770
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Speaker 3: Going to play, I go, don't bet on that the

771
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: Commanders could beat Dallas.

772
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 4: Have you seen Dallas's defense? No, nobody has.

773
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 3: That's right, so they can move it on them, right,

774
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: So that that's what that would not bet on that

775
00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 3: the Lions. I got them winning twenty seven to seventeen.

776
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 3: But I'm playing it as is JJ McCarthy is not playing.

777
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 3: If JJ McCarthy is playing, I would not bet on

778
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 3: that game. Jay, The Vikings can beat the Detroit Lions.

779
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 4: They can beat them. They know how to defend them.

780
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: And a little bit like I just said with Dallas,

781
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 3: let's get this right, Detroit's defense is not good. And

782
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: if Jay, they're still trying to play Minnesota to build

783
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: JJ McCarthy in for next year. Right, So they're gonna

784
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 3: if he's healthy and he can throw the ball the

785
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 3: way he's meant to throw it justin Jefferson and Addison

786
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 3: will be open down the field for big plays. And

787
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Speaker 3: then there's the Broncos. The Broncos, if you're gonna make

788
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,480
Speaker 3: me ask a game on Christmas, that would be the

789
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: game I would take.

790
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: I know the points are.

791
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Speaker 3: Big, but there I believe they will kick the shit

792
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 3: out of the Chiefs. They're gonna be pissed off that

793
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: they lost last week. They're still playing for the number

794
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 3: one seed, and the Chiefs are like, please end the

795
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,479
Speaker 3: season and get us out of here. We haven't had

796
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 3: an offseason forever. We're done. Minshew's gone, Mahomes is gone,

797
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 3: We're done. So if I'm gonna bet on one, it'd

798
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Speaker 3: be the Broncos on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: All right, when that quarterback went in for the first time,

800
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: do you think Andy Reid leaned over to somebody and said, Hey,

801
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: who the fuck.

802
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: Is that guy?

803
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 3: No, not exactly, but I'm sure he was like, oh crap,

804
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 3: all right, we're gonna have to adjust some stuff here.

805
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 3: But but no, you know, they usually have their you know,

806
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 3: they're usually pretty good with their three quarterbacks, and you know,

807
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 3: having their eye on guys that could play and do

808
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 3: stuff like that.

809
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:27,959
Speaker 4: But but did get back to my best bets on Sunday? Yeah, right, yep.

810
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 3: Just I like the Patriots. The Jets are done right,

811
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Speaker 3: you know the quarterback. Yeah, they're not gonna be able

812
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 3: to get it done against this defense. And I think

813
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: the Jets are checking in, and of course we know

814
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 3: the Patriots are playing something. I got thirty one to

815
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 3: ten Pats.

816
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 4: Okay.

817
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,760
Speaker 3: I think the Steelers win twenty one to thirteen against

818
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 3: the Browns.

819
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 2: Wow.

820
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 4: Right.

821
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 3: You know, Florio thinks that if the Ravens lose Saturday

822
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 3: night that maybe the Steelers will sit people. I don't

823
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 3: think that's the case. They got they're hot right now.

824
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: They can't go three weeks of not playing and then

825
00:34:58,400 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 3: you go to the wildcard game.

826
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 4: That good to do that.

827
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,919
Speaker 2: Plus Mike Tomlin doesn't believe in that shit.

828
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 3: I don't think so either, right, And I think they're

829
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,239
Speaker 3: riding a hot hand here right here. I got them

830
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 3: winning twenty one thirteen. I'm gonna take them to cover

831
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 3: the points there. My last one is the Cincinnati Bengals.

832
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 3: The Bengals are still playing. Joe Burrow still got the

833
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,439
Speaker 3: hot poker, and everybody's asking that organization. You saw last

834
00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 3: week against your Dolphins. He's playing damn good that Cardinals

835
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 3: are in checkmate, probably going wait, our coach is gonna

836
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,960
Speaker 3: be here. I could see the Cardinals making some plays

837
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: in the past game. I think it'll be high scoring.

838
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,439
Speaker 3: But I got the Bengals winning thirty five twenty four.

839
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: I didn't feel great about a lot of these games.

840
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,280
Speaker 3: So those are my three best bets for Sunday.

841
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Speaker 1: All right, man, hey, we appreciate it. What a great

842
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: game Sunday Night, Bears at Niners.

843
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 4: I love that.

844
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I love your boy Kyle Shadahan doing it. Like you know,

845
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Ben Johnson has to do it with Caleb Williams. He

846
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: needs Caleb Williams.

847
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 2: And your boy is doing it with fucking Mac Jones

848
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 2: and Brock Perdy. It's unbelievable.

849
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,879
Speaker 3: I hear you and I these are two. I think

850
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 3: these are very similar. That's what I'll tell you. Took.

851
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson is Southern version of Kyle Shanahan. That's what

852
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 3: I almost say, Like I think Ben Johnson grew up

853
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 3: in North Carolina or South Carolina.

854
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, right one.

855
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 3: I know they have great respect for the each other.

856
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,799
Speaker 3: I know Ben Johnson does. He's literally like said things

857
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 3: to me, like, you know, like when they beat the Lions,

858
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 3: when the Lions beat the Bucks the year they went

859
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 3: to the NFC Championship game. I'm gonna tell this story.

860
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 3: I don't think Ben'll be bothered by it. They beat

861
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: the Bucks. Now they're gonna go play the forty nine ers.

862
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 3: Right in the NFC Championship game, We're on the field

863
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 3: for the game and the game's over, right, I think

864
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 3: Baker Mayfield gets sacked game over clock zeros right, and

865
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,920
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, I looked to my left and

866
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 3: Ben Johnson's running by me like this, so this hands out,

867
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 3: and I'm like, what a psycho this guy is.

868
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 4: Right fast forward a.

869
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: Few months later, I was like, hey, I never got

870
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 3: to met you, meet you or whatever. I wanted to

871
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 3: come see you after the Bucks Lions game when you

872
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 3: ran by me with your hands out and he's like yeah.

873
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: He was like, I was gonna run over to you

874
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 3: and go tell your fucking boy we're coming, but I

875
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 3: figured I shouldn't.

876
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 4: Say that, right.

877
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 3: So they have a chippiness about them that I love,

878
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: and Ben Johnson, like Shanahan is a genius. I think

879
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,400
Speaker 3: he's respected Shanahan for a long time, and I think

880
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 3: Shanahan looks at Ben Johnson, going, who is this guy

881
00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,239
Speaker 3: infringing on my offensive creativity?

882
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 4: Title title holder here?

883
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: So it should be a good one, but I am

884
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 3: gonna take the Bears to pull off the upset.

885
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:28,120
Speaker 4: In that one.

886
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,879
Speaker 2: All right, I like it. Get out of here.

887
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to you and your family. We appreciate you

888
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,839
Speaker 1: very very much. We've been doing this a while now since.

889
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: Thank you for everything, man, of.

890
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,000
Speaker 3: Course, thank you to you guys. I love doing it.

891
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 3: I always have fun. You guys are awesome and what

892
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 3: you've built is awesome. Merry Christmas to all those out there.

893
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 3: Happy holidays, and I'll talk to you guys next week, all.

894
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,320
Speaker 2: Right, and listen, if you want to get Sims a present,

895
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 2: just get a marijuana.

896
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 3: Thank you, buddy. You can't go wrong. Sativa Sims. That's

897
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 3: what they called Meva Sims.

898
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:54,640
Speaker 4: I love sativa.