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Speaker 1: big for him. Dion got back and we didn't start

427
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:27,760
Speaker 1: him at the year. We kind of went we're trying

428
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,399
Speaker 1: to figure out, you know, a veteran group, let a

429
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,399
Speaker 1: rookie kind of ease in. But did some really good things.

430
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: Was talking with Bobby Johnson the other day and just

431
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,680
Speaker 1: his knockdowns per snap were really high. Just a guy

432
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:44,000
Speaker 1: cleaning the pocket for Josh, getting down field, taking guys out.

433
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: He's got some things to learn. I thought he hit

434
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: the wall a little bit at times two, but you know,

435
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,560
Speaker 1: we expect big things for him as our right tackle

436
00:23:51,960 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 1: going forward. Who am I leaving out here? Tommy Doele

437
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 1: did a great job. Was the extra lineman for us.

438
00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Played a lot late. Obviously had the touchdown which was

439
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: a cool thing for him. We expect a lot from Tommy.

440
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,399
Speaker 1: He really, he really from preseason, wasn't sure if he

441
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,439
Speaker 1: was ready to help us on the fifty three immediately,

442
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:21,119
Speaker 1: but where he was probably made one of the biggest

443
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,199
Speaker 1: jumps of the class from where he was when we

444
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: ended camp to helping us down the stretch. You know,

445
00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:32,200
Speaker 1: Speedy did some good things when he got his chance.

446
00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,679
Speaker 1: Wild Goose has gone. Who else am? I'm hammling. Damar

447
00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,600
Speaker 1: did a great job. I think he's got a real,

448
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 1: real legit chance. You know, obviously he's behind Mike and Jordan,

449
00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: but he's a good special teamer and you know he'll

450
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: Jiquan kind of settled into that third safety this year.

451
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: I think he's really gonna push Jiquan next year behind

452
00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 1: those two guys. But I think he's if he works

453
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,359
Speaker 1: and does the thing that he did this year. Um,

454
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna play in this league for a while.

455
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 1: Considering the assets that you have devoted to defensive Wine,

456
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,120
Speaker 1: did you feel you've got enough from the defensive Wine

457
00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: and that was the number one defensive league, But did

458
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: you get enough from your class rush for Civic? I

459
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: think in gaining certain games we did sal um every

460
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: I think there were some games that we would have

461
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: liked to have more if I'm being honest, Um, but

462
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 1: I think they definitely helped. You know, sometimes what happens

463
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,159
Speaker 1: is people when your rush is going well, you know,

464
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:43,880
Speaker 1: you play some opponents, they're going to get the ball

465
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: out faster to frustrate you. They're gonna screen you. Um,

466
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 1: you know that's that's how you defeat this defense as

467
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: a penetrating group. But um, consistently all year, probably probably

468
00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 1: not as much, but I think they did some really

469
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 1: of good things. We're kind of in a blend of

470
00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 1: some some some aging vets with some young guys. Um,

471
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: but I like where we're at. I like where we're

472
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 1: heading it, and so I'm always gonna put resources in

473
00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 1: the front. It's just how I believe it should be built.

474
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: And um, you know, don't ever be shocked if you

475
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: see us trying to add their free agency or the

476
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: draft at any point. One guy that so arriving in

477
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: the fan base, starving little. Obviously he missed the last season,

478
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: coming in a little bit than unknown some valuabilities the

479
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: time of this year. Yeah, yeah, really good question, Matt.

480
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 1: I think Star came back. I was worried, you take

481
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 1: a year off, worried about injuries. You know, this is

482
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: a hard you know his position, it's a it's a

483
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,640
Speaker 1: car crash in there. And I thought he really had

484
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 1: a couple of things early, missed the first game, but

485
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: once he got going that game in Miami, Um his

486
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 1: first game back, he really bawled out and played well.

487
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: He was a force, probably his most consistent play until

488
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,120
Speaker 1: he got COVID that day of the Jets. But if

489
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: you look at his tape from week two, his first

490
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,919
Speaker 1: game through whatever game was before the Jets, he was

491
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 1: one of our most disruptive lineman. He We've talked about

492
00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,719
Speaker 1: it before. He's not gonna get a bunch of sacks.

493
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:26,479
Speaker 1: I know he did one in the in the New

494
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 1: England game, but when he got COVID, when he came back,

495
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: you know, it really affected him. And without getting too

496
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: deep into the woods, you know, I don't think he

497
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 1: returned to form, and I think he'd be the first

498
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 1: to tell you that to what he was playing early

499
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 1: in the year, and so he got better and I

500
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 1: thought it improved the two playoff games, but I still

501
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 1: don't think it was as consistent as he was, you know,

502
00:27:55,160 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: the first part of the season up near future. Last

503
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: season a year ago, everything was kind of closed with COVID,

504
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: the NFL Comboy was not open directly to in person

505
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: and such. Does that make a difference this year that

506
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 1: I believe that the Comboy will be open to in

507
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: person and assessing these guys face to base. Is that

508
00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: that big of a deal that that's going to be

509
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 1: a plus fore you to cover the shoe. It's definitely

510
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 1: a plus to be able to get up next to

511
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,160
Speaker 1: these guys and be around them and just you even

512
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: when you're not interviewing them. You got people kind of

513
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: keeping eye on them at the combine, keeping eye on

514
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: them between practice if it's at the you know, the

515
00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:38,400
Speaker 1: East West or the Senior Bowl. So that exposure will

516
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: help us for sure. The zoom world, and I appreciate

517
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: you guys doing this in person. I hate the zoom world,

518
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: but you know, the zoom world is good on some accounts.

519
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: We can reach more people, but it's never as good

520
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: as in person. And so I'm excited about this offseason

521
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: compared to last offseason. You got this year and how

522
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: does he project for you moving forward? Yeah? I mean

523
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: Cole had I think about the same number of catches, Um, Joe,

524
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you can verify that for me, maybe not as much

525
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 1: total yards, and I'll remember his touchdown count. Um. Cole

526
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: can still play, you know. Um. At times, our offense

527
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: went through some some different things were working at times

528
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: early in the year million year, we had some lulls,

529
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 1: and then late m Isaiah played some roles in some

530
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: games where you know, Dabele thought that you know, the

531
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: the jet motion, the jet sweeps, Um. You know, if

532
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: it was a press man, you know, Isaiah running across

533
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: the formation, whatever it was deep overs, that that was

534
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,800
Speaker 1: a better matchup. So sometimes Isaiah, you know, and when

535
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: he got his chances, he made plays. I think that

536
00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, probably took Cole out of the game sometimes

537
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: just for our running stuff. You know, as we got

538
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 1: our running game going a little but down the stretch,

539
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: we just felt that Isaiah really helped that because you're,

540
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,720
Speaker 1: you know, the stuff behind the line of scrimmage is

541
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: harder for these backers or whoever's the safety coming down

542
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: to read. And it's not a way we would use

543
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: coal in that way. So Cole can still play, and

544
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: he'll continue to play in this league. And you know,

545
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: there's his diminished snaps was just more where our offense

546
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: was at the time. We had a lot of pieces.

547
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the game in New England, it can be hard,

548
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: not that you have too many pieces, but you got digs, Emmanuel,

549
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: Gabe Cole, Isaiah. Everybody wants the ball, and that that's

550
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: where Davil's job is hard. And Josh Allen's you know,

551
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: he's wanting to feed them all. And some games one

552
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: guy's getting eight targets and the other guy's getting none,

553
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and it flips. I thought that gaming gets New England.

554
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 1: Our receivers all pitched in and made plays and it's

555
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: hard to do. But I think it was as much

556
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: his Maybe maybe it didn't feel like he had as

557
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: much production because other guys were making plays. I mean,

558
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: two years ago it was really him and John Brown.

559
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,320
Speaker 1: Last year it was him and Diggs. John Brown was hurt.

560
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: Gabe came on for us. I felt like this year,

561
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 1: a year two, we had just more weapons at Josh's disposal.

562
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: He still play, but do you see him as a

563
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 1: piece moving forward for your team? For our team, yeah,

564
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I M Cole, he's still under contract, so

565
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: M you know, we didn't I didn't sit down with

566
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: Cole at the end and see where he was at

567
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 1: and things like that. But yeah, I would I would

568
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: anticipate Cole being back. I would do this year game

569
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 1: because it was something last year that we talked about

570
00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: that was inconsistent and probably needed to take a step forward.

571
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: And then this season maybe it started a little slower

572
00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: than expected, but certainly been a strong So as a

573
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: whole room, could you assess that, Yeah, Matt very inconsistent early,

574
00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: and you know, we struggled to get that going. You know.

575
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: I think as as we've alluded to and some of

576
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 1: these other earlier questions, we definitely found a rhythm. I

577
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: felt Devon had his best stretch of his three year

578
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: career December January. Ran with um For a two hundred

579
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: pound guy, he runs with good power, and I thought

580
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: his vision was really good and catching the ball out

581
00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: of the backfield, you know. And I thought the old

582
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:30,120
Speaker 1: line found their rhythm. And again it's it's all. It's

583
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: all got to work in sync. And sometimes, you know,

584
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: I could go bring in five Pro Bowl or lineman

585
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: here and everybody go, man, we're about to just run

586
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: through the world. It doesn't always work that way. The

587
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: communication piece is so important between these guys, and you know,

588
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 1: obviously it starts with Mitchell at the center calling you know,

589
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 1: ID and the protections or whatever the run game is,

590
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: and you know that down the stretch, that group. You know,

591
00:32:55,480 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 1: we hated to lose Ike because I thought it was

592
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: jelling even with him. But Ryan Bates, next man up,

593
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: got his chance, and I didn't feel we dropped off

594
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: and it kind of just the ball kept roll and

595
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: once once we started it, so uh, something to build

596
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,520
Speaker 1: on for that whole group, and hopefully next year will

597
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: we won't start out with the lull that we kind

598
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: of had this year. The offensive line a second year,

599
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 1: you bring back Quinton, kind of goes south early, bring

600
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,560
Speaker 1: back Darryl and John John ultimately it's heard doesn't come

601
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: back in Darryl kicks inside. Just how do you feel

602
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: the offensive line has kind of been handled over the

603
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: past couple of years And where do you see maybe

604
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: some of the evaluations before the season see me to

605
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: go so far south, you know, not too far in. Yeah,

606
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's two ways. I mean, I feel like

607
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: we've had good depth, you know, even back to last

608
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 1: year that with Quentin situation, you know, The hard part

609
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 1: is when you have a lot of competition, people that

610
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 1: have started, they want to start, and I want that. UM.

611
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,960
Speaker 1: Sometimes people can get frustrated, and so it kind of

612
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: goes both ways. You gotta you gotta have enough talent.

613
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 1: You're gonna have injuries there. We see that, UM, but

614
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: you got to make sure that you also have guys

615
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: that understand their roles and are willing to accept them.

616
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: And and so I think that that happened, I mean

617
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: at times. But you know, we'll continue to try to

618
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: have depth there and we'll continue to try to build it.

619
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: As I say with the d line, we gotta be strong,

620
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 1: we gotta it starts with protecting Josh and hard to

621
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: protecting Josh is also a run game. And I'm not

622
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: saying we gotta run it thirty times, but enough to

623
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 1: keep them honest so that these dns aren't just pinning

624
00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: their ears back and you know, chasing him seven eight

625
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:47,239
Speaker 1: yards down the field overtime day, understandably coming out of

626
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: the Sunday night. And I don't know what degree that

627
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: you taught to Terry to Kim, or could you indicate

628
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: maybe to what extent they would be in support. I'm

629
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 1: gonna change the overtime rules and even full we'll yeah, Adam,

630
00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: It's funny. When we had in person the league the

631
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,279
Speaker 1: owners meetings, sorry, a couple of years ago. You know,

632
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,799
Speaker 1: it's been the last two years, it wasn't that was

633
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: a big topic on the table that was being tossed around.

634
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: Various proposals were being thrown out there. It happened again

635
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: last year, but we had the owners meeting, Zoom. It

636
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 1: was kind of a harder. Nothing passed. I do think

637
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: it's a hot topic, you know. I have my own ideas.

638
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,160
Speaker 1: You know, at the end of the day, we you know,

639
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: we lost the game the other night, but of course

640
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 1: we would love too and I think TV audience would

641
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,760
Speaker 1: have loved to seeing Josh in our offense get it back.

642
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: I would definitely love to see some get brought back

643
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: to the table. I'm not saying I have the exact idea,

644
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: but I you know, I think there's some ways to

645
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: do it without getting in detail. I think there's a

646
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: way you can do it in the regular season that

647
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 1: handles that. But let's let's do something in the postseason

648
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: when it's all on the line, and that would that

649
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: would be where my head is on it. I have

650
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: not taught to Terry and Kim on it um Sean

651
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,040
Speaker 1: and I you know, in the coming days, well, we'll

652
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,440
Speaker 1: do our exit with them, kind of debrief of the

653
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: whole season, and I'm sure we'll talk about it. You know. Well,

654
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,840
Speaker 1: I'll have a shootout or in regular season and a

655
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 1: certain depth not direct, yeah, but a different format. But

656
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: the postseason. Yeah, I mean, there's there's something that I've

657
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: thought of and that has been proposed too. There's been

658
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: some different proposals of something in the regular season a

659
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 1: certain way because it's a seventeen game season. Okay, you

660
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: can't have two these guys playing too many minutes from

661
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 1: wear and tear. So um, maybe there ends up being

662
00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: some more ties in the regular season, but let's let's

663
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: make sure we give both offenses a chance when the

664
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: seasons on the line. I think we all know Kansas

665
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: City lost a few years back to New England. I

666
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: think in similar game maybe as the championship game where

667
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: Brady took him all the way down, scored Mahomes never

668
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: got the ball back, and so I'm sure even though

669
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: it benefited them the other night, I'm sure they would

670
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: be in a favor. If you've got Pat Mahomes, you're

671
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,239
Speaker 1: always going to want to make sure he gets the ball.

672
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: And we feel the same about Josh. We know that

673
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,200
Speaker 1: Ryan could wind up getting a head coaching job. Poor

674
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 1: Leslie for that matter, but Ryan could wind up getting

675
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: head coaching job. There's reports that Ken could be his

676
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: first choice as OC. So a little bit of a

677
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: two part question you're Brandon without I know you can't

678
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 1: go into details. What are those talks like leading up

679
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,479
Speaker 1: to that to communicate to Ken what you would want

680
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: number one and number two? Last year you kept your

681
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,400
Speaker 1: entire staff in tech, which is very rare. Actually, I

682
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: think a couple of assistant position coaches went to college.

683
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: Let's say Ken or other people do leave. What is

684
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: that process like if you already knowing where to branch

685
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: out to to communicate to other people who are looking

686
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: for jobs, already have jobs rub the league. Yeah, so

687
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, Sean, I've talked about list of candidates for

688
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: you know, if you lose Leslie Frasier, if you lose

689
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:09,040
Speaker 1: Brian day Ball. You know, the rules are such that,

690
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,240
Speaker 1: no matter what, you have to interview from the outside

691
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: anyway for coordinator positions. So we would follow all those.

692
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: We have a list of some guys. You know, we

693
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: kind of have to wait. We're kind of in this

694
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: wait and see mode because at this point, Brian and

695
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: Leslie are still in the interview mode, and you know,

696
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: it's hard because we're kind of like, is he getting one?

697
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: Is he not? Is he getting one? Is he not?

698
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: And we're rooting for him both to get one. You know,

699
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,719
Speaker 1: we really appreciate what they've done, but until it happens,

700
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: we can't start our process of interviewing for you know,

701
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator. But yeah, you know

702
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: we would we always want to look inside too, We

703
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: want we would want to look at what do we have,

704
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: whether on the defensive side of the ball or the

705
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:56,360
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball, what do we have on

706
00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: staff here that we think could handle Brian's job or

707
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: lesi lease? And then who are the candidates out there

708
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 1: that we've coached against, played against whatever it is that man,

709
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: that guy you know, that system I really like, I

710
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: wonder what it would be like. Let me bring him

711
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: in and pick his brain and see if he would

712
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: be a fit. So we'll definitely look inside and look

713
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: outside when it comes to possibly having to replace Brian Gable.

714
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: Sean said that, you know, they would keep Josh in

715
00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,680
Speaker 1: the loop and communicate with him. How much do you, guys,

716
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 1: you know, from your perspective, take Josh's opinion and input

717
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: into account, and how much do you value a possible,

718
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: you know, guy to replace him that has familiarity already

719
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: with Josh, considering he's only ever had one offensive coordinator

720
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: his entire career up to this point. Yeah, I mean,

721
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: I feel fortunate that Josh has only had one offensive coordinator.

722
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:56,720
Speaker 1: You see young quarterbacks and I'll get to your question,

723
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: but you see young quarterbacks struggle that have to go

724
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: through multiple coordinators. So that was one of the things

725
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,839
Speaker 1: that we put down, stability in the offensive system and

726
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: the coaches around him. So it's been great four years

727
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: and three of those years, Ken Dorsey has been been

728
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,360
Speaker 1: right there, Shay Tyranny had a great group. Even Davis

729
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 1: Webb in his own way, he's like a player coach

730
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: for US. So, but Josh definitely value his opinion. You know,

731
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 1: we have a great relationship. I sat down with Josh Monday,

732
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 1: and you know, we we just talked about the game,

733
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:37,040
Speaker 1: the season, life, and he's in such a great spot.

734
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of where he's at, m I and

735
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: or Seawan. We'd be crazy not to loop him in

736
00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: now he's not he's getting We would ask him for opinion,

737
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 1: But like sometimes last year, I'll go back to signing

738
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky. You know, I already had the deal, you know,

739
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: close to done, but I called Josh and just said, hey,

740
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: before I finalize this, this is what's going down. Is

741
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: there anything I'm missing? You know, you guys have never

742
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: had an issue with each other that I'm aware of.

743
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 1: I've done my research, but I definitely wouldn't want to

744
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: bring someone in the quarterback room, player, coach, whatever, that

745
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,239
Speaker 1: might not allow Josh to be at his best. And

746
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: and Mitch was outstanding, and I know he's going to

747
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: get a chance to go out and play. But yeah,

748
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,360
Speaker 1: whatever it is, if it's you know, if Brian leaves,

749
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,800
Speaker 1: you know, we'd be silly not to get Josh's opinion.

750
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,279
Speaker 1: And listen, we know what he thinks of Ken Dorsey's.

751
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: It's very high that matters to us. But we definitely

752
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: have to do our due diligence. You in the state

753
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: potentially leaving for a starting role, or would you like

754
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,440
Speaker 1: to have him back, given him the role that he

755
00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: had working with I'd love to have Mitchell back if

756
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: you can negotiate that same deal we got him on

757
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 1: last year. Jay, I can give you his agents number,

758
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:56,360
Speaker 1: let me know if you get it done. But everything's negotiable, buddy.

759
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: But yeah, Mitch did a great job to fit here.

760
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 1: He was, you know, and his wife and another expectant. Now,

761
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 1: he and Josh didn't really know each other, but Josh

762
00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: and I talked about Mitch yesterday or two days ago,

763
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 1: and he was outstanding, like for a guy that wants

764
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: to play. You know, I worried in season if he

765
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: was going to start getting the itch like, man, I

766
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 1: want to get out there, and we even you know,

767
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: someone called us at the trade deadline asking about him,

768
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,520
Speaker 1: and I just he was. He was such a great

769
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,279
Speaker 1: fit for us. I couldn't part with him knowing the

770
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: team we had, and you know, fortunately Josh stayed healthy.

771
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: But if anybody calls me about Mitch on another team,

772
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him, you know, a great recommendation. And

773
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: if he didn't get where, I've told him and his agent.

774
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 1: If he doesn't get what he wants, we got a

775
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: spot for him experience with Mitch, though, how do you

776
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: approach the backup quarterback spot going forward? The cause a

777
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: one year thing like with Mitch. Do you do you

778
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: see that fitting in the future. How do you kind

779
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: of view building behind Josh. Yeah, we'll definitely look. We'll

780
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 1: look at both free agency and the draft, just like

781
00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 1: we did last year. This was unique that you know,

782
00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 1: Mitchell had some he had some opportunities, but they weren't

783
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: at stable places and he was at the point where

784
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: it didn't work out of the Bears. You don't want

785
00:43:16,280 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 1: to go somewhere that quick and it go negative, go

786
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: south on him. Come here and hit the reset and

787
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 1: you know again I talked to Mitchell before he left,

788
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,319
Speaker 1: and he even though there were times he definitely wanted

789
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: to play, he thought the reset was good for him.

790
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: So Lana will look, We'll look at all these avenues.

791
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: It's an important position. We know how Josh is. You know,

792
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm up there screaming for him to get down plenty

793
00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: of times, you know, and I don't ever get onto

794
00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:46,600
Speaker 1: him for throwing interceptions, you know, a fumble or you know,

795
00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: whatever happens. I just the only time I ever get

796
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 1: on to Josh is for taking unnecessary hits and that's

797
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,319
Speaker 1: his play style. That's why we love him. But a

798
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: backup quarterback is very important knowing the way he plays

799
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:02,360
Speaker 1: the game. Thought that in terms of gosh and running

800
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: the ball, and you know, from the outside looking at it,

801
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: it seemed like the year one on m I'll use

802
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: the word cohesion within the steam of the offense, like

803
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: it seemed that there were some type of consensus we're

804
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 1: gonna use this to our advantage, but we're gonna be

805
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 1: smarter abound it. I'm putting words of you up and

806
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: I don't mean to, but I sensed a more less

807
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:27,120
Speaker 1: ad lived and more like design stuff that that factored

808
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200
Speaker 1: in that to an extent, with their obviously being ris there,

809
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:34,239
Speaker 1: that's the case. You nailed it, Adam spot On. I think, um,

810
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,000
Speaker 1: he likes to run the ball. You know, he enjoys it.

811
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:40,960
Speaker 1: I think it gets him lathered up. And you know

812
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: he's a because he's a linebacker playing quarterback. That's his mentality.

813
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: I think you guys know that, Like I want him

814
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 1: to get down, he wants to run over somebody. And

815
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:53,800
Speaker 1: he's improved in that. You remember it at Miami a

816
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 1: year or two ago. He's trying to you know, Kyle

817
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: Van Nolan somebody else, and like dudes are teeing off

818
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,919
Speaker 1: on him. That's not what you should do. You should

819
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: get down. But um, he likes if gets him in

820
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: a rhythm, get him in a flow. You know. The

821
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: main thing that you know, Sean and I have talked

822
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: to Davil about or Dorsey or Josh himself is just

823
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: try and get down when you can. And I thought

824
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 1: this year at times he really did a good job

825
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Late gotta have at moments I'm a

826
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: little bit more okay with it. Early in the season. Slide,

827
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:33,560
Speaker 1: get out of bounds, don't take those unnecessary hits. Cornerback

828
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 1: in particular, you might be trading whole come back and

829
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,120
Speaker 1: it's good. But that looks like an area that is

830
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:44,320
Speaker 1: going to need something addressing. Is there are a concern

831
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,600
Speaker 1: that spot? Yeah, I mean, sal you know last year,

832
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, I know people were upset or you know,

833
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: didn't understand why I didn't draft one where we did.

834
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: We had corners in the draft that we liked. The

835
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: problem we had other players ahead of him, and you know,

836
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,800
Speaker 1: if I actually we looked at this middle of the

837
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: season at the end of the season, after Dane had

838
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:12,120
Speaker 1: played a lot. You know, our guy's measured out pretty

839
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 1: well to you know, a good number of those guys

840
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 1: in the draft, and you don't just want to take

841
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 1: a guy if I let's just say I took a

842
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: guy in the second round instead of taking Boogie even

843
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: though I didn't really have that value on him. You

844
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be expecting, oh man, this guy went

845
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 1: in the second round the meat. The fans are gonna expect.

846
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: This guy went in the second round. I reached for him,

847
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 1: and there's gonna be a level of expectation. His teammates,

848
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: who don't scout are gonna be like, oh man, we

849
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 1: got second round corners. Who's And then if he's not

850
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 1: beating out a guy who you took in the seventh

851
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 1: round the year before, there's gonna be like, what's going on?

852
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: That's a bust. And so I have to be very

853
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: careful when I select a guy to make sure I'm

854
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 1: selecting me at his value. And that's why I truly

855
00:46:56,239 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: follow the board to a degree. You know you can't.

856
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 1: I couldn't continue dns every round um last year, even

857
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: though I'd like to, but um that's that's the truth.

858
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 1: So it is a position, and probably the biggest emphasis

859
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:16,479
Speaker 1: is Tredavious coming off in acl Where will that be

860
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,680
Speaker 1: in August? You know, will will he be able to

861
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: practice some will he be full? Will he be definitely

862
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: ready to go Game one? You never know with those

863
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 1: things he's doing. He's on track, he's he's here every day,

864
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: he's working hard, he's super competitive. We're very confident he

865
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:36,200
Speaker 1: will be, but still a long way to go. So, um,

866
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 1: it's definitely something I'll pay attention to in free agency.

867
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:42,760
Speaker 1: M Levi as a free agent, he tested the waters

868
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: last year. We were able to get him back. Um,

869
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: you know, he's a guy we will definitely talk to

870
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,279
Speaker 1: and um would love to get him back if he

871
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: wants to be back. Um that you know, time will

872
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: tell there, but either way, you know, we'll continue to

873
00:47:56,719 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: look for depth at the corner position. Brandon going back

874
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,359
Speaker 1: to going back to Josh Allen, Sean McDermot said when

875
00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 1: we talked to him yesterday that you know, we still

876
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 1: want to continue to put pieces around him that help

877
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: him succeed. How does that get easier or harder? Knowing

878
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,319
Speaker 1: that he's been here for four years and has had

879
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: a lot of success, and you guys do have pieces

880
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 1: that you like in place, but you're probably just looking

881
00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: for more specifics now, but also balancing how the offense

882
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,839
Speaker 1: finished the end of this season. Yeah, I mean, I'm

883
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: always going to try. First thing, I'm trying to protect him.

884
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: As I said earlier, I got to make sure the

885
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 1: old line is set and that we're confident in them.

886
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:38,720
Speaker 1: But beyond that, always looking for the various pieces, whether

887
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: it's a you know, a size guy. You know, a

888
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,720
Speaker 1: guy who's just going to run the intermediate routes quicker

889
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: than fast. You know we mentioned Tyreek Hill. I mean,

890
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: you'd love to have a guy that a rack guy

891
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: that you can get the ball to and he can

892
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: turn a five yard pass into a sixty yard touchdown.

893
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: So we'll continue to look for the things. You know,

894
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 1: you can never We've talked about speeding here I think

895
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 1: Heather asked it, but um, you can never have enough

896
00:49:06,320 --> 00:49:08,840
Speaker 1: of that, So we'll continue to look for various ways,

897
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: you know, out of the backfield, UM, tight end, you know,

898
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: Dawson had a really good year. Um, you know, there's

899
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: various ways to run an offense, whether you run two

900
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,480
Speaker 1: tight ends, whether you run five wide, whether you run

901
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: two backs, so um, there's you really just want to

902
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 1: find different pieces and it doesn't have to fit exactly.

903
00:49:29,640 --> 00:49:31,600
Speaker 1: We don't have to go just find a tight end

904
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: or go find just a certain receiver. We'll find pieces.

905
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: And that's where Brian Dable and if Dabele goes, it'll

906
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 1: be on the offensive coordinator to kind of put it

907
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:54,000
Speaker 1: together and utilize their skill set. Or Tremaine and Ed. Yeah,

908
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:55,799
Speaker 1: I'll take him one at a time. You know, I

909
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 1: thought Tremaine, m Tremaine did a really good job again

910
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: his his leadership. You know, Tremaine is a is a

911
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: quieter guy. Probably if you compare him and Josh, they're

912
00:50:05,400 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: both the quarterbacks at their side of the ball. Tremaine

913
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: is naturally quieter, more lead by example. But when he speaks,

914
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:16,480
Speaker 1: guys do listen. And I think he's you know, year

915
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 1: by year he's more comfortable being that guy, being that

916
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: that alpha, even though maybe it's not innately natural to him.

917
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 1: You know, Tremaine has done some really good things. I

918
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:30,400
Speaker 1: thought his physicality improved this year, you know, take on

919
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: getting off blocks. I thought all that improved. There's still,

920
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, things that he wants to get better at

921
00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 1: and we think, you know, going into next year, he's

922
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: a young player still, but um, you know, going into

923
00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 1: year five, we think he'll he'll be even better. And Ed,

924
00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, didn't have you had three or four sacks

925
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 1: that we're probably taken away from him, you know, on

926
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: penalties things like that. I thought he I thought he

927
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: was our best most consistent D lineman all year, from

928
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,879
Speaker 1: start to finish. And I think he trended up all year.

929
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: The game slowed down for Ed this year, and he

930
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 1: was a huge factor in our success. And again Sal

931
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: asked me earlier about grading the D line, those guys

932
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: were a big part of what we did. Even those

933
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: you know, we don't have a fifteen sack guy or

934
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:24,400
Speaker 1: anything like that. A number of tackles for loss Ed

935
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: really helped the back end with his disruption having the

936
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: quarterback get the ball out or at least getting him

937
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: off the spot. Having to throw on the move turns

938
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:37,879
Speaker 1: into an incompletion or an interception. All right, that's Jim

939
00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,240
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean addressing the media. He'll be wrapping up here shortly.

940
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:44,680
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here or thanks again

941
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: for those of you watching on the Bills social media channels.

942
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: A reminder you can check out our show One Bills

943
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,800
Speaker 1: Live weekdays right here on MSG Western New York and

944
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,799
Speaker 1: on WGR Sports Radio five fifty. Break time here, Steve

945
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 1: and I'll be back to kind of go over some

946
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: of Bean's most notable comments. Will get to those when

947
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: we return here on One Bill's Live, presented by a

948
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: lot of health It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome

949
00:52:21,320 --> 00:52:25,520
Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Drive and One Bill's Live. Chris Brown,

950
00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you as Brandon Bean's wrapping up his

951
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:33,440
Speaker 1: comments with the media in his post season wrap up

952
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 1: press conference. What were your biggest takeaways from that, Steve? Interesting?

953
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: I mean, they are going to have to interview a

954
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 1: ton of guys for the offensive coordinator position. We know

955
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: Josh likes Ken Dorsey cool. So does Brian Dable. And

956
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 1: if Brian, if they need a new offensive coordinators because

957
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Brian Dable left, he may take Ken Dorsey with him.

958
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: It'll be up to Ken Dorsey to decide whether he

959
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200
Speaker 1: wants to be this offensive coordinator or that one. But

960
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:01,479
Speaker 1: the Bills are obligated because of the coordinator level, They're

961
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:08,480
Speaker 1: obligated to interview outside candidates, so they'll do that, no doubt.

962
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: I would think the Buffalo Bill's offensive coordinator spot is

963
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:17,440
Speaker 1: coveted by a lot of guys, not just you know,

964
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: not because there's an NFL job, but because of Josh

965
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: and the way this offense looked and the things that

966
00:53:21,680 --> 00:53:25,959
Speaker 1: they've done. So all of that stuff put in the mix.

967
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say I'm just gonna rubber stamp and

968
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 1: say Ken Dorsey's gonna get the job, because there's gonna

969
00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: be every notable hat well possible in the ring. There

970
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 1: are a number of reasons why that is the case.

971
00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,200
Speaker 1: This is a team that is ready roster wise to

972
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:45,399
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl. Do you want to replace a

973
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:49,200
Speaker 1: veteran coordinator that had done the job before he got

974
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:53,279
Speaker 1: here with a guy that's never called place at the

975
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 1: professional level. It's a valid question to ask. As much

976
00:53:56,800 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: as you like Ken Dorsey, as much as Josh Allen's

977
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey, are you prepared to go down that road

978
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 1: or would you feel more comfortable with a guy that's

979
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: done it before, Knowing the window of opportunity that exists

980
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: for this team to win the whole thing? Right, now,

981
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 1: here's the well, here's what goes into that decision, and

982
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,399
Speaker 1: you could say the same thing on the defensive side

983
00:54:21,440 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 1: of the ball if Leslie leaves who has had a

984
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 1: better understanding and a doctorate course in how to call

985
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: plays than Ken Dorsey. With Brian Dabele calling the plays,

986
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: He's watched it for three years. He knows. Plus in

987
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: the atmosphere of this building, I know this that the

988
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:38,920
Speaker 1: young coaches, the guys in the you know, the the

989
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 1: assistant wide receivers coach, you know, Chad Hall, the assistant

990
00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: special teams coordinator, the assistant you know, defensive line assistant.

991
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: All these guys are trying to climb that ladder. And

992
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: to do that, you got to ask yourself, what have

993
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,799
Speaker 1: I got to do to be ready? If that's the case,

994
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: Ken Dorsey's doing nothing but talking to Brian Dabele and

995
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,239
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and Sean McDermott about, Okay, why did you

996
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: call this play here? And what are we doing here?

997
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:04,279
Speaker 1: And and why are we gonna do He's what I

998
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 1: called it here because and getting a full PhD in

999
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 1: living working paid internship on how to call plays in

1000
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 1: the NFL from the guy who's gotten Josh at this level,

1001
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:18,160
Speaker 1: you get a guy in here, like, what are you

1002
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: gonna do? Bringing just as an example, bringing a guy

1003
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:24,879
Speaker 1: in here like Jason Garrett who was the head coach

1004
00:55:24,920 --> 00:55:27,680
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys then called the plays with the Lines

1005
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: or the Dallas Cowboys. Now he's out of guys like that.

1006
00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: But that's that's what you're looking at, right, a guy

1007
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,640
Speaker 1: who Hey, he's gone plays, he's done this, he's you know, yeah,

1008
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,759
Speaker 1: no right, no, um. Other guys like what are you

1009
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: gonna get? You're gonna pull Eric Bienemy off the chief staff?

1010
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:46,600
Speaker 1: Are you gonna call Byron Leftwich if he doesn't, if

1011
00:55:46,600 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't get the Jacksonville job, you're gonna go Byron

1012
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: Leftwich up. You know a lot of people say Byron

1013
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: Leftwich had a hot start because he's playing with Tom Brady,

1014
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: he's coaching with Tom Brady now and all of a sudden,

1015
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: now he's on the hot list. So who else? You know,

1016
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 1: what kind of chord areking for now? Sean Payton this year?

1017
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 1: If he does, fine, but you make that call, yes,

1018
00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: that kind of guy. Okay, I'll listen to that. But

1019
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: there's I mean, it's gonna for me unless it's a

1020
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 1: guy like shamp Everybody is a step below Brian Dabole

1021
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: and where he's at and what he's built here, So

1022
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: you gotta think there's gonna be something there. Would the

1023
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: would the transition be better with Ken Dorsey or x

1024
00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: whoever whoever? It is like what you got Kyle Shanahan.

1025
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: That's not just don't think it's an easy thing to

1026
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: weigh out because you're trying to project the unknown, because

1027
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: you could like a guy with coordinator experience that's out there,

1028
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: great resume and he comes in here and the way

1029
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:51,839
Speaker 1: he calls this offense doesn't maximize the efficiency of the

1030
00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: talent they have, or even more importantly, Josh Allen where

1031
00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: maybe the guy that's been with him the last three

1032
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 1: years intimately knows the strengths and weaknesses is of what

1033
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,600
Speaker 1: Josh likes to do in the scope of this offense,

1034
00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: and maybe that charts a better path for the future.

1035
00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 1: These are the things that Coach mcdermot's going to be

1036
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: weighing out over the next couple of weeks. Here the

1037
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: transition will be smoother, but the top end, where is it,

1038
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,239
Speaker 1: Well that and that's what you have to project. It's

1039
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:17,439
Speaker 1: a guess at the end of transition, no doubt it'll

1040
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: go smoother. But when you need something extra, is he there?

1041
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 1: Is he gonna get it to you. That's the big question.

1042
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: In a tough spot, is he fall in the right play? Yeah,

1043
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 1: it's a tough spot. It's a projections That's why it's

1044
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: tough because there's no absolutes with this. You're you're trying

1045
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,640
Speaker 1: to project the future success or your offense, and you're

1046
00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 1: weighing experience in this league versus familiarity with the guys

1047
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 1: you have on board, as well as either way either

1048
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: way and the guys and Brian Dabele still has a

1049
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: job here. By the last thing, last thing either way

1050
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: in the off season, no matter who it is, if

1051
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,640
Speaker 1: it's Ken Dorsey, if it's candidate X Josh Allen will

1052
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 1: spend time in the off season in Buffalo getting to

1053
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: know the guy. Yeah, break time for us. We'll be

1054
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,320
Speaker 1: back with more, including Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas a

1055
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,600
Speaker 1: little bit later in our second hour. Stay with us

1056
00:58:01,600 --> 00:58:03,520
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's

1057
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:20,160
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1058
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,920
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you. Some other interesting developments as Brandon

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Speaker 1: Bean's wrapping up his comments to the media and his

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Speaker 1: season wrap up press conference, he felt Tyler Bass got

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Speaker 1: robbed for the Pro Bowl. He said we can smile

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Speaker 1: in Western New York because we have Josh Allen. He

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Speaker 1: also said he will be looking at punters this offseason.

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Speaker 1: Respected the work that Matt Hawk put in this season,

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Speaker 1: but felt his efforts didn't know was translate to the

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Speaker 1: game field, which I think is a very very fair assessment.

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Speaker 1: And he also just had an interesting comment. He said,

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Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes still wants to play football. His contract, as

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Speaker 1: we know, is up. He is one of the many

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Speaker 1: free agents on Buffalo's roster. We should get to the

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Speaker 1: phones here. Had some people waiting patiently, so we will

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Speaker 1: do that and let me see who's been waiting here

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Speaker 1: the longest. It looks like, who do we have? We

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Speaker 1: got Jessica in New York. Jessica, what do you have

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Speaker 1: for us here on One Bills Live. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: kind of wanted to go back to what you guys

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Speaker 1: were talking about a little bit earlier with the interviews,

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Speaker 1: and I was just wondering what your opinions are on

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Speaker 1: having the interviews be so closed so early in the season.

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Speaker 1: In having like Frasier and Dave all be so distracted,

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Speaker 1: and especially the same thing happened last year with a

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Speaker 1: season that's on the line, you know, that Chief game.

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Speaker 1: I think people are up top because that was basically

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Speaker 1: our super Bowl. I think a lot of people believe

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Speaker 1: that if we could have won that game and then

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Speaker 1: did that home playoff game, it would have been New Sailing,

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Speaker 1: and I think it could have been our year. Do

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Speaker 1: you guys think that coaches being distracted to have those

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Speaker 1: interviews before? What is the harm? I guess, and waiting

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Speaker 1: until after Super Bowl? Why not wait until March? We

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Speaker 1: have offspring, the end of winter, we have all summer

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Speaker 1: to start those interviews. What is the rush? And it almost,

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Speaker 1: you know, seems in a way disrespectful to the franchise

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Speaker 1: and to McDermott to before the seasons even over take

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Speaker 1: so much of your energy when you only have a

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Speaker 1: week to prepare for such a large game, to be

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Speaker 1: so distracted somewhere else. And I was kind of just curious,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you thought that sometimes. You know, I

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Speaker 1: understand it's everybody's dream to want that head coach position,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I guess McDermott came here, and he

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Speaker 1: took a team that was really struggling and in a

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Speaker 1: huge drought and changed everything around. But I also wonder

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Speaker 1: how come coaches don't have contracts. I know some people

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Speaker 1: are you know, they do angry they do, you know,

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Speaker 1: I'm curious. Sometimes It's just like I feel like people

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Speaker 1: always focus on the contracts of the players, but never

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Speaker 1: so much the coaches. And I just feel like it

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Speaker 1: would be easier if the ball was in the court

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Speaker 1: of the franchise, if you know, in the owners and

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Speaker 1: the coach when they sort of want to release you,

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Speaker 1: to do the interviews, vice versa. And so I guess

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Speaker 1: I'm just curious too if you guys think everyone's dream

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Speaker 1: is to get that head coaching position. But sometimes it's

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Speaker 1: like the grass doesn't always grenier on the other side.

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Speaker 1: And I know technically you're not a head coach, but

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Speaker 1: isn't it amazing that, you know, wishful thinking? But maybe

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Speaker 1: we could be the next Patriots and get you know,

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Speaker 1: seven eight Super bowls in a row. Would you really

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Speaker 1: want to jump ship and leave? Is it because you

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Speaker 1: make more money as a head coach? Could more money

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Speaker 1: to say? I get it, Jesse, you let us address

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Speaker 1: that and thanks for the call. A lot there to unpack, Steve,

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Speaker 1: why don't you take this first and maybe just address

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Speaker 1: It's not an ideal situation. As you know, the bills

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Speaker 1: try to put in a rule to the Competition Committee

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Speaker 1: to get the interview process changed. Last year it got tabled.

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Speaker 1: It's consistently a problem every year, um and some teams

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Speaker 1: are affected by it and others are not. There is

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Speaker 1: there are contracts for assistant coaches, all of these contracts

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Speaker 1: because the head coach kind of negotiates the contract with

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator offensive coordinator, and all these assistant coaches says,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a two year deal. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: see how you do and then we'll go from there.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. But on the other side of it,

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Speaker 1: every coach says, listen, if I get a chance to

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01:02:33,800 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 1: get a better job somewhere, you gotta let me go.

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Speaker 1: That kind of and the and the nobody's going to

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Speaker 1: stand in the way of it, because they've all been there.

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Speaker 1: They've all said, listen, I got a wife and family there,

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Speaker 1: I got a career. I'm trying to work here, and

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Speaker 1: I'll work everything. I'm trying to get better, and if

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Speaker 1: I get a chance to go someplace and be a

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Speaker 1: coordinator or be a head coach, you gotta let me go.

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Speaker 1: And that's always a pinnacle of your profession. It's what

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01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 1: it's the pinnacle of your profession. It's a it's a

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01:02:56,680 --> 01:03:00,600
Speaker 1: caveat that every coach would give up as a hiring

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Speaker 1: in the persons just hiring. And also the guy's taken

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01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 1: the job, you gotta let me go. If I get

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Speaker 1: a better job, no problem up in respect. If they

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Speaker 1: sign a three year deal, they get three years. Even

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01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: if they're fired after the first year, that's a given

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01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:16,840
Speaker 1: two Their contracts are all guaranteed, all of them. So

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Speaker 1: there's that as well. So and you're right, it is

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Speaker 1: not the perfect scenario, and it's hard to keep it

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Speaker 1: from being a distraction. You'll never we'll never know if

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Speaker 1: if it was a problem for the bills in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City or for all of that. So, but you know,

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Speaker 1: you got two hot coordinators that have been on the

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Speaker 1: shortlist for a while, so it's part of the deal.

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Speaker 1: But you're asking a guy that's got a multi billion

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Speaker 1: dollars franchise to wait for a couple of weeks and

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Speaker 1: maybe lose out on the guy he really wants. They're

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Speaker 1: not going to do it. Yeah, that's that's the rub here,

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Speaker 1: because you could say, why not wait until everything's over,

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: which is what the bills proposed with the rule change

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Speaker 1: that they sent into the competition committee last year. It

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Speaker 1: got tabled. And when you have nine open jobs, it's

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Speaker 1: essentially a boat race right now. And these owners, it's

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Speaker 1: musical chairs for the owners right These owners, as Steve said,

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Speaker 1: with billion dollar operations with hundreds of millions in annual revenue,

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Speaker 1: want to make sure they get the guy. They want

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Speaker 1: to tell a billionaire, Oh no, no, you know what,

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Speaker 1: you gotta wait three weeks before you get your guy.

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Speaker 1: That's not flying. It's just not the way those guys operate.

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Speaker 1: Nobody tells them no or you have to wait. They

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Speaker 1: do things on their time, and they're making the rules

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Speaker 1: and it's yeah, and they make the rules, so it's

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Speaker 1: never going to change. And it's unfortunately at the expense

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Speaker 1: sometimes of teams and coaches that are trying to win

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Speaker 1: the whole thing, and sometimes it gets in the way

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Speaker 1: despite even their best efforts, and the coaches that are

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Speaker 1: up for big jobs best efforts. We do have to

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but good questions there, Jessica. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: we answered most of them for you. Take a break here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back the Hall of Famer, Thurman Thomas

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Speaker 1: joins us, we'll get his thoughts on the season that

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Speaker 1: was next. You're on One Bill's Live. Stay tuned, Welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bill's Live. Treman Thomas. We'll be joining

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Speaker 1: us in about oh i'd say seventy eight minutes time,

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Speaker 1: as we have a short segment here to take some

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Speaker 1: more of your phone call. So let's do that at

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Speaker 1: eight oh three, five fifty and we go to David

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Speaker 1: in Orchard Park. What do you have for us? David,

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01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:41,480
Speaker 1: you're on One Bill's Live. Hey, I've been trying to

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01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 1: email you. It's very difficult about it, very complicated question.

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Speaker 1: But my real question is about Tremaine Edmondson. Just hoping

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01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: that the Bills maybe we'll move him out and not

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Speaker 1: re hire him next year for some insane contract. And

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Speaker 1: I know task is gonna not like that. But do

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Speaker 1: a poll of the bands and see how they appear. Well, David,

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Speaker 1: why don't you tell us? Why don't you just tell

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Speaker 1: us what it is about Edmund's game that you don't

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01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,280
Speaker 1: like and then maybe we can address that better based

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01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:17,880
Speaker 1: on what you're getting. Well, it seems that of his

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01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 1: eight or nine cackles he makes, they're usually five to

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Speaker 1: ten yards downfield. He gets pushed aside by blockers. And

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Speaker 1: I know he's a wonderful physical specimen and probably really

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Speaker 1: smart guy, but he is not the linebacker we need

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Speaker 1: in the middle there to stop runs. Okay, it's my focus. Okay,

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Speaker 1: very good, Thanks for the call, David. I mean, I'll

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Speaker 1: say this first of all, Brandon Bean just addressed remain

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Speaker 1: Edmund's season, which he felt he did a really good job.

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Speaker 1: He thought his physical take on skills improved this year,

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Speaker 1: thought he played more physical. He admitted he's still improving

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Speaker 1: and he's still a young player. I would submit this, okay,

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Speaker 1: just in watching Tremaine, I would say, even now after

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Speaker 1: four years in the league, more often than not to me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not going to claim to have the trained

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Speaker 1: ie of a scout or somebody like that, but to me,

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Speaker 1: he seems to be more of a reactive player than

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Speaker 1: an anticipatory player. If that makes sense. How does that

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01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:25,800
Speaker 1: maybe keep him from maximizing his ability as a player.

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01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,480
Speaker 1: I think it keeps him from making more plays than

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01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: he does already. Where does that way out in whether

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01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: or not the Bills feel they can do better than him.

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Speaker 1: I don't have that answer, Steve, Where do you want

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Speaker 1: to come down on that? Well, I know this if

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Speaker 1: I don't know enough about the intricacy's a playing linebacker

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Speaker 1: to comment on it, except for the fact that I

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Speaker 1: know the players and coaches he plays against have a

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01:07:51,160 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 1: great deal of respect for him and vote him to

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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. And I'll say this, if if this

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Speaker 1: coaching staff weren't happy with the way they were playing,

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Speaker 1: I have full faith that he wouldn't be in there.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying that they're not going to draft somebody

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Speaker 1: to take his place or whatever, but I see what

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01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: you see. There are times when it's like it looks like, wow,

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 1: that's a play he should have made and didn't. I

1239
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 1: think that's one of the things that's frustrating for Bills fans.

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Speaker 1: You think on this play, says, well, where was he

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01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: or why why is he not? You know, why is

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 1: he running into that guy not around the guy to

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:24,720
Speaker 1: get the tackle it? You know, all the things that

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:28,519
Speaker 1: a casual fan and even elevated fans would see in

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01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:31,479
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds play. I see it as well. I do

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Speaker 1: know this though, They're not going to leave him out

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01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: there if he's not doing what they want him to do,

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01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:40,479
Speaker 1: and if that's all intangible, if he somehow because of

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:42,400
Speaker 1: the way he is or the way he calls plays,

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01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 1: or the personality or the man that he is, that

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01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: he elevates the guys around him, and they want that

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01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 1: above whatever level of play he's giving. And they want

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01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: to do that, that's fine with me, But I'm gonna

1254
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:52,840
Speaker 1: leave it up to them. But I think there's no

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Speaker 1: question this is a make or break here for Tremaine Edmonds.

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Speaker 1: I think he's in line for a contract extension. It's

1257
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 1: time to redo his deal, and what that deal looks

1258
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:05,519
Speaker 1: like is going to give us all an idea of

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Speaker 1: what the team really thinks about him. They did pick

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Speaker 1: up his fifth year option last year, so he is

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01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: under contract for next season, but logic would say they

1262
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:17,920
Speaker 1: would try to reduce that cap figure by signing him

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Speaker 1: to an extension, assuming they want to keep him around,

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Speaker 1: and all indications are they due, So can they reduce

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Speaker 1: his cap figure by giving him an extension that goes

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Speaker 1: beyond this one year fifty year option this year, and

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Speaker 1: with all due respect to the caller, I can't remember

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Speaker 1: his name. M David and Orchard Park. With all due

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01:09:36,400 --> 01:09:41,800
Speaker 1: respect to the caller, they they're the ones whose heads

1270
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:43,599
Speaker 1: are on the chopping block for him. I mean, they're

1271
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 1: the ones who picked him. And I'm not saying he

1272
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 1: is just out there just because they put a one

1273
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: number one draft pick on him and they got no

1274
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,680
Speaker 1: better options, or whether they or that they don't like

1275
01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: him or whatever, but the simple fact the matter is

1276
01:09:57,040 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: this next deal will tell you what they think of

1277
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 1: him and what is value and what his value is.

1278
01:10:04,960 --> 01:10:08,760
Speaker 1: That's when push comes to shove, um, put your money

1279
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:11,280
Speaker 1: where your mouth is. Yeah, when they have to pay him,

1280
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: that's when they're gonna you're gonna find out what they

1281
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:14,880
Speaker 1: really think of him. All Right, we have to take

1282
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: one more break here as we're still catching up from

1283
01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,080
Speaker 1: the press conference from last hour that we carried live

1284
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,559
Speaker 1: here on the show. So we step aside here one

1285
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: more time. When we come back, we'll have the Hall

1286
01:10:24,840 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 1: of Famer Thurman Thomas coming up next here on One

1287
01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:43,000
Speaker 1: Bill's Live. Stay tuned, all right, Welcome back One Bill's Live.

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01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,120
Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Steve tasker, and please to be joined now

1289
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:49,400
Speaker 1: by Bill's Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas, who has been

1290
01:10:49,640 --> 01:10:51,679
Speaker 1: joining us on a weekly basis here through the course

1291
01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 1: of the season. But the twenty twenty one campaign came

1292
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: to an end, Thurm. And we just listened to Brandon

1293
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 1: Bean for the better part of forty five minutes here

1294
01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,639
Speaker 1: on the show. He said he's sick to his stomach

1295
01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 1: that they lost, and said he hasn't slept much and

1296
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: he can't even watch the tape at this moment. I'm

1297
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: assuming you feel similarly, yeah, Brown, Ever since after the game, Yeah,

1298
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,959
Speaker 1: I haven't watched any football, haven't looked at NFL Network,

1299
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,400
Speaker 1: Sports Center anything, So I actually do not know what's

1300
01:11:23,439 --> 01:11:26,479
Speaker 1: going on and do not care to know what's going on.

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01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:32,519
Speaker 1: I am, I am. I'm still hurting, man, really, yeah,

1302
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 1: I mean I was at the end there, man, I was.

1303
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 1: I was gearing up to take that ten to fifteen

1304
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: minute ride up the stadium Sunday. Yeah, that's I mean,

1305
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,600
Speaker 1: that's how it was with me and my wife and

1306
01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: my kids and I and uh, yeah, it was something

1307
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,360
Speaker 1: that man. It just hurts now knowing that we will

1308
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: not be able to see and I'm gonna go out

1309
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,640
Speaker 1: on a limb here seeing the next great quarterback come

1310
01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:06,400
Speaker 1: through this football league, which is Josh Allen. And I

1311
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,719
Speaker 1: would have loved to seeing him go against Joe Burrow.

1312
01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:14,160
Speaker 1: But exciting as that was as heartbreaking and know that

1313
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: the guy was on fire and probably would have led

1314
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 1: us to the Super Bowl. I'm saying, yeah, I can't

1315
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,160
Speaker 1: I agree with him. That's how great, that's how great

1316
01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,760
Speaker 1: he was playing. Man, it's been unbelievable. And you know what,

1317
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 1: even though I'm hurting, I'm excited for what is in

1318
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: the future for Josh Allen. We continue to get him weapons,

1319
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:40,720
Speaker 1: get him somewhat of a running game, and have a

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01:12:41,240 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: defense that can stay probably in the top ten and

1321
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 1: don't have to be ranked number one in five different categories.

1322
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:49,680
Speaker 1: I know that's hard to do. But if we can

1323
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:51,720
Speaker 1: have a defense that's in the top ten and have

1324
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,080
Speaker 1: a special teams that you know, can create some turnovers,

1325
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 1: put guys in bad teams in bad situations, you know what,

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:00,640
Speaker 1: I'm excited as hell for the next ten years with

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01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:03,599
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. There's our quarterback. Yeah, and I had said

1328
01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: this in the AC Championship game was now almost two

1329
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:09,200
Speaker 1: years Yes, last year's AFC Championship game. Bills were good

1330
01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:11,920
Speaker 1: enough to beat those guys then, but they played bad

1331
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 1: on game day. This one is more heartbreaking because they

1332
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: really played well on game and so did the Chiefs.

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've heard people who watch film and

1334
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 1: do that talk about what the game that Pat Mahomes had.

1335
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,040
Speaker 1: They say that may have been his greatest game of

1336
01:13:25,080 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 1: his career. He played, he was off the hook, and

1337
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,840
Speaker 1: and to see that Josh Allen and the Bills took

1338
01:13:33,880 --> 01:13:37,120
Speaker 1: him to the down to the wire and beyond says

1339
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,760
Speaker 1: something about where the Bills are right now. I think

1340
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,599
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It was unbelievable the way that game finished,

1341
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:47,120
Speaker 1: the last couple of minutes of regulation and then over time,

1342
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,519
Speaker 1: it was phenomenal. And it is sad too because I

1343
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 1: think because of the experience, we all missed out on

1344
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: a home AFC Championship game when we didn't really think

1345
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 1: we were gonna get one three weeks ago, right, we

1346
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 1: didn't know, if you know, if we thought, Okay, we're

1347
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: gonna be going through Kansas City, we're gonna be going

1348
01:14:06,040 --> 01:14:09,120
Speaker 1: through Tennessee or whatever, okay, and then to have that

1349
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:11,400
Speaker 1: all fall that way it did, and then with thirteen

1350
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 1: seconds left and regulation to have it all go away.

1351
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:18,719
Speaker 1: That that's the I think is the biggest crushing factor

1352
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: for me, is that we all missed another home game.

1353
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: Yeah and two. And you know what, I'm getting sick

1354
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: of tired of having these uh, these classic games that

1355
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: always involved with Bill and now we were the thirteen

1356
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,600
Speaker 1: second game. Yeah, Music City miracle. Um, even though the

1357
01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: comeback was fun, you know, to be involved in all

1358
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: these type of games, but this one here, man, it's uh.

1359
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:49,280
Speaker 1: And to go back to uh to Brownie's point, Um, Yeah,

1360
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,599
Speaker 1: if people were in Kansas City are saying this is

1361
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 1: the best game they've ever seen, my oldest play, I mean,

1362
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,120
Speaker 1: like you said, that is saying something. I mean, he's

1363
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:59,679
Speaker 1: been phenomenal for the three or four years that he's

1364
01:14:59,720 --> 01:15:05,160
Speaker 1: been starting and for him to you know, continue to

1365
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,960
Speaker 1: do things like this that impress the Kansas City fans

1366
01:15:08,960 --> 01:15:11,040
Speaker 1: and I'm sure to impress you know a lot of

1367
01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 1: other fans around the National Football League. But the guy

1368
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: is something else, man, And I know everybody's been talking

1369
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: about kind of that Brady Man anything. Well, if that's

1370
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,160
Speaker 1: what you want, this is exactly what you want gonna get.

1371
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 1: And I would have these two I haven't played each

1372
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 1: other every single year, even if we don't play that division.

1373
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:34,719
Speaker 1: Just to put these two guys out on the football

1374
01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: field every single year. Just go back and forth, Kansas

1375
01:15:37,600 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 1: City Buffalo. Kanna see the Buffalo every single year for

1376
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,880
Speaker 1: the next ten years because it looks like they're going

1377
01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 1: to be competing against each other for a long long time.

1378
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: But it hurts that you know that they're that we're

1379
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,600
Speaker 1: two where we're going two against them right now with

1380
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: this loss and last year AFC Championship game. But you know,

1381
01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: to stay kind of on a positive note. You know,

1382
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: glad that Gabel Davis had the game of his life,

1383
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 1: so you know things are looking up. And like I

1384
01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,680
Speaker 1: said earlier, if you continue to get Josh Allen weapons man,

1385
01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:12,479
Speaker 1: he's definitely gonna put us in a position to possibly

1386
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:14,479
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl two. Yeah, I mean, just to

1387
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:17,439
Speaker 1: paint the picture on Mahomes, not that it needs to

1388
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:22,200
Speaker 1: be painted necessarily, but he's played seventeen career games regular

1389
01:16:22,240 --> 01:16:26,400
Speaker 1: season in playoffs against opponents that finished the season ranked

1390
01:16:26,400 --> 01:16:29,519
Speaker 1: in the top five either in scoring defense, total defense,

1391
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: or pass defense. He's sixteen and one. His only loss

1392
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 1: is to the Bills, in week five when they had

1393
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: the top defense. Now they had the top defense last week,

1394
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: and he beat him. He also beat fifteen other teams

1395
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:45,439
Speaker 1: that had similar defensive rankings. You better have an offense

1396
01:16:45,439 --> 01:16:47,719
Speaker 1: that can run with that guy or you're not beating him. Now,

1397
01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:51,360
Speaker 1: quintessential Mahomes too. He did it by making plays outside

1398
01:16:51,400 --> 01:16:53,560
Speaker 1: the pocket. Runner he ran for the first touchdown of

1399
01:16:53,600 --> 01:16:55,759
Speaker 1: the game and got and hit the ball on the pylon,

1400
01:16:55,880 --> 01:17:00,280
Speaker 1: you know, and it was a lot. Well, guy Mahomes

1401
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,240
Speaker 1: and Josh they look completely different physically, they look the

1402
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,160
Speaker 1: same on the field. They run, they and there's I mean,

1403
01:17:06,200 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 1: they make plays outside the pocket. But sixteen and one

1404
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: against the top five defenses, the sixteen game revolved around

1405
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 1: those two jokers right there. Fifteen for the Chiefs and

1406
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: seventeen for the Bills. The whole game revolved around those

1407
01:17:19,960 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 1: two guys. Now, they each had some guys around them

1408
01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: that are that are stellar, Kelsey, Tyreek steph Uh, Gabriel

1409
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:34,320
Speaker 1: Davis and you know Beasley for the Bills. Even even

1410
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary was really good for the Bills. So they've

1411
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: got guys around them, But the whole game centered around

1412
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 1: those two jokers. Yeah, I mean this man against the

1413
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: best defenses, like the best of the best, Yes, yes,

1414
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:58,600
Speaker 1: and what and I would probably say what most of

1415
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 1: those games have probably been at home? Probably I'm not

1416
01:18:01,360 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 1: sure what that is the home ratio, but yeah, he's

1417
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,040
Speaker 1: done an now standing and job and that tells you

1418
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,120
Speaker 1: right there that he ups his game when it's time

1419
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 1: to put it on the line. Right, That's exactly what

1420
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 1: that is. But yeah, I think with the Bills, though,

1421
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,599
Speaker 1: I think when you're talking about the AFC Championship game

1422
01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:25,160
Speaker 1: last year and what they needed to do, I think

1423
01:18:25,200 --> 01:18:28,080
Speaker 1: they need to take that a step farther. And that

1424
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 1: step would be, man, how would you like to have

1425
01:18:30,840 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 1: a pass rush? Say something similar to the San Francisco

1426
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:37,600
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. I mean, they got what seven to

1427
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,519
Speaker 1: eight guys that can bring it every single down. I

1428
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,800
Speaker 1: think that was kind of what we were lacking in

1429
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: the Kansas City game. And I think that's kind of

1430
01:18:47,479 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 1: what when we drafted Greg Russo and and and how

1431
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:55,880
Speaker 1: we were trying to move forward with this football team

1432
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: to get to this position to put some pressure on

1433
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,880
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes and and be a team that can rush

1434
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,200
Speaker 1: the pass or maybe not sack them. But you know what,

1435
01:19:04,360 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: get them off there, put them in there not their

1436
01:19:06,720 --> 01:19:11,200
Speaker 1: comfort zone, and uh well, but something that Brandon being

1437
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: in them guys have to look for. They chased him

1438
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 1: all over the field. They did get pressure, they just

1439
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:20,080
Speaker 1: couldn't finish the plays. Tackling was a problem from start

1440
01:19:20,160 --> 01:19:22,960
Speaker 1: to finish in this game for the Bills defense. They

1441
01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 1: did get some pressure. I think the other thing that

1442
01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: they fell victim to. You guys know this because you've

1443
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,840
Speaker 1: been in the league. You guys were both in the

1444
01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:32,759
Speaker 1: league in a long time. There is a timing element,

1445
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:35,720
Speaker 1: and while the Bills were playing their best football as

1446
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,479
Speaker 1: a team, they were peaking at the right time. I

1447
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 1: always felt this season that their pass rush was in transition.

1448
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:46,320
Speaker 1: They have a lot of promising youth that really hasn't

1449
01:19:46,439 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 1: gotten at all figured out yet, and they have some

1450
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,840
Speaker 1: veteran players who are on the down side of their career,

1451
01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,240
Speaker 1: to be fair, and you can put that together and

1452
01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,720
Speaker 1: hope maybe together it gives you enough. And really, the

1453
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 1: only the guy that was really coming into his own

1454
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: this year and performed from start to finish was at Oliver.

1455
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: Everybody else yet young guys learning on the job that

1456
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 1: didn't quite put it all together yet, and you got

1457
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 1: older guys that can't give you what they used to

1458
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 1: be able to give you, and I think that's why

1459
01:20:16,040 --> 01:20:18,439
Speaker 1: Buffalo's pass rush was lacking a little bit. Now to

1460
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:20,720
Speaker 1: tet now, another subject that I wanted to cover with

1461
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: YOUTHERRM is what I asked Sean McDermott about yesterday. You

1462
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:29,520
Speaker 1: have a defense that prides itself on being sound, fundamentally

1463
01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: fundamentally sound defense. They preach fundamentals here all the time.

1464
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: And even though you could argue for the long stretches

1465
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: of that game, maybe until the fourth quarter, they paid

1466
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,760
Speaker 1: pretty sound fundamental defense against one of the most explosive

1467
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:50,599
Speaker 1: offenses in football. What trumped sound fundamental defense was pure speed.

1468
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,400
Speaker 1: There is no answer for it in terms of the

1469
01:20:53,439 --> 01:20:55,040
Speaker 1: speed that the Chiefs can put on the field. So

1470
01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:58,559
Speaker 1: I asked coach mcdermoty yesterday, do you have to raise

1471
01:20:58,640 --> 01:21:02,400
Speaker 1: the priority level when it comes to speed and adding

1472
01:21:02,439 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: it to your defense? And he said it's a valid point. Now,

1473
01:21:05,479 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Bean was asked a similar question today and he said, well,

1474
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,479
Speaker 1: you can't just say we need speed and that's it.

1475
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:14,960
Speaker 1: I don't think anybody's saying that, but you have to

1476
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 1: raise on your list of priorities where speed falls into

1477
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:22,200
Speaker 1: the equation because if you don't get faster on defense,

1478
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 1: you're never beating that team or let alone stopping them. Right.

1479
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,919
Speaker 1: It creates a problem. It really does create a problem.

1480
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:35,600
Speaker 1: And yeah, which way do you go? You know, I

1481
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,080
Speaker 1: know we got Trade White coming back next year, but

1482
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:40,519
Speaker 1: what are we looking a draft? I mean when you

1483
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:44,559
Speaker 1: talk about the guys that are getting older, I mean, hey,

1484
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 1: let's face it, I mean, I Jordan Party and Micahid

1485
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:51,400
Speaker 1: probably got what two three more years here maybe tops,

1486
01:21:51,720 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: and then you're gonna have to try to replace them.

1487
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: So what do you do? I know, Tyreek I mean

1488
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:01,640
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill runs a four two, So even if he

1489
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:03,679
Speaker 1: gets another two or three years in the league's probably

1490
01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:07,760
Speaker 1: gonna end up still running one four four. So what

1491
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 1: do you do? Do you? Man? It's hard to It's

1492
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,360
Speaker 1: hard to figure out, only because you know what, if

1493
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:17,120
Speaker 1: you get speed, but are they gonna be good cover guys?

1494
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are running all the way across

1495
01:22:19,880 --> 01:22:24,080
Speaker 1: the field and in my homes with his cramlin ability

1496
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,920
Speaker 1: could be another problem. So I don't know which way

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01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 1: it goes, But I do think that the question that

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01:22:30,080 --> 01:22:33,519
Speaker 1: you asked Sean McDermot and Brandon Bean is a valid point.

1499
01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, how do you find out? How do you

1500
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,760
Speaker 1: how do you make the situation closer between both of

1501
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,559
Speaker 1: these teams and these wide receivers throughout the national football

1502
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: And I don't think it's just going to be Kansas City.

1503
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:48,639
Speaker 1: I think you're probably gonna see a lot of other

1504
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: teams start to do it too. Let at Cincinnati, I

1505
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: mean te Higgins, Jamar Chase, Tyler Boyd. I mean, you

1506
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:58,600
Speaker 1: better start drafting. I mean, we saw the wave in

1507
01:22:58,640 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: the draft theorem teams drafting receivers. You know, in deep

1508
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,680
Speaker 1: receiver classes, people are scooping them up, gobbling them up.

1509
01:23:05,720 --> 01:23:10,000
Speaker 1: We did it here, and you know you gotta react

1510
01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,160
Speaker 1: to that. On the other side of the ball. Get

1511
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 1: some corners, corners that are like sub four four guys.

1512
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:18,720
Speaker 1: You I mean, I'm not saying that's the only criteria. Oh,

1513
01:23:18,760 --> 01:23:20,680
Speaker 1: he runs it, I'm not Al Davis, he's four three,

1514
01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 1: Get him on the roster. I'm not saying that. I

1515
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,240
Speaker 1: mean you gotta look at is he a playmaker? Is

1516
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:29,000
Speaker 1: he instinctive? Can he anticipate what's coming? Those are all important,

1517
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: But the guy better be able to run because you

1518
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: can be the smartest player in football. If you can't

1519
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:37,080
Speaker 1: get to the spot because that guy's faster, you're not

1520
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 1: gonna win. And none of that matters. There's like one

1521
01:23:41,160 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: guy like there's like one guy like that in this draft.

1522
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,080
Speaker 1: One guy. Maybe maybe there's one guy that is a playmaker,

1523
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 1: can run a four two, he's got size and he's

1524
01:23:51,439 --> 01:23:54,439
Speaker 1: a playmakers an athletic. Go get him. There's one guy

1525
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 1: one fine, go get him. What are you gonna do?

1526
01:23:58,560 --> 01:24:02,960
Speaker 1: You go get him and somebody drafts higher than you.

1527
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: But what's the alternative, Steve? Is there another way to

1528
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:08,320
Speaker 1: beat all that speed on the field. How do you

1529
01:24:08,360 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 1: beat it? You had it beat with thirteen seconds left.

1530
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:16,840
Speaker 1: Just finish the game. Tackle the guy the line of

1531
01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: scrimmage on a first and ten and let Pat Mahomes

1532
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,599
Speaker 1: hold the ball for six seconds and win the game.

1533
01:24:22,680 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: To tackle him, don't let him off the ball, Just

1534
01:24:25,360 --> 01:24:28,240
Speaker 1: hug him and pull him down. Maybe you get lucky

1535
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:30,160
Speaker 1: he takes a swing at you because he's mad. Now

1536
01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:34,320
Speaker 1: he gets ejected. Something tackle him before the ball's thrown

1537
01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:36,759
Speaker 1: to him. Oh, you gotta just take a holding penalty.

1538
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:39,879
Speaker 1: Grab the guys Jersey. Just pull him to the ground

1539
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,479
Speaker 1: and lay on top of him while the plays going on.

1540
01:24:43,240 --> 01:24:48,200
Speaker 1: That's all you gotta do. Yeah, and you had him

1541
01:24:48,200 --> 01:24:51,280
Speaker 1: beat right. And to take that point further, if you

1542
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:55,080
Speaker 1: can't match everything they do on offense with your defensive unit,

1543
01:24:55,080 --> 01:24:57,719
Speaker 1: you better have somebody like Josh Allen. Unfortunately the Bills

1544
01:24:57,760 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: do to match them score for score if necessary. Yeah,

1545
01:25:03,080 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: I'm at a loss of words. Yeah, I don't know.

1546
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: I mean, I just want to know what, Steve, if

1547
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:11,840
Speaker 1: if you were the head coach, is that what you

1548
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:15,120
Speaker 1: would have told your players at that moment in tad

1549
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,080
Speaker 1: would you have told your players to do? I gotta

1550
01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:18,320
Speaker 1: be honest with you. If I was a head coach,

1551
01:25:18,360 --> 01:25:19,960
Speaker 1: I would have known. I would have had anything. I

1552
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 1: would have known, what's how do you? What's I don't

1553
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 1: know if I would have even thought in my wildest

1554
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: dreams like, Okay, here's what we're gonna run through in

1555
01:25:26,200 --> 01:25:29,519
Speaker 1: practice to day. There's thirteen seconds left that. Yeah, they

1556
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:32,240
Speaker 1: got thirteen seconds left through it all the time. Here

1557
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,719
Speaker 1: you've seen it. I don't know what are you guys doing?

1558
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,840
Speaker 1: And I know this too, Thurm looking back onto those

1559
01:25:38,840 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: guys out there, going man, that's it, we got this,

1560
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:44,519
Speaker 1: we got this. And then it's go bengo, bengo bongo,

1561
01:25:45,080 --> 01:25:47,360
Speaker 1: and they got you know, Travis Kelsey fallen down three

1562
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:51,280
Speaker 1: seconds left and you're done. You know. That's I get it.

1563
01:25:51,640 --> 01:25:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean, we've all had games where things like that

1564
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,160
Speaker 1: going at somebody makes a mistake or whatever. But you

1565
01:25:56,320 --> 01:26:00,960
Speaker 1: gotta have somebody tackle somebody before the plays off, so

1566
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 1: he has to hold the ball. You know. Even if

1567
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:06,280
Speaker 1: it's a penalty, that's cool. It's a five yard holding

1568
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,599
Speaker 1: penalty or pass interference, it's a spot foul. It's right

1569
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,920
Speaker 1: from where you do it, so it's at five yard penalty.

1570
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:14,040
Speaker 1: You can do whatever you want in five yards. There's

1571
01:26:14,120 --> 01:26:16,280
Speaker 1: five yards, you know. So I mean, and I get

1572
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 1: it too. You're coaching your guys to break the rules

1573
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 1: deliberately to oh that I don't who cares. Just win, baby,

1574
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: just win, man, but just win, get this win and

1575
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,559
Speaker 1: get rid of to prevent defense. Yeah, yeah, prevent victory

1576
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:35,360
Speaker 1: defense all right, Thurm, Yeah, Therm, we won't torch you anymore.

1577
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,440
Speaker 1: Um appreciated guys. Yeah, it's it's a rough week for everybody.

1578
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 1: The entire Western New York area remains in a state

1579
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:45,160
Speaker 1: of mourning. Everyone's going through the five stages of grief.

1580
01:26:46,160 --> 01:26:50,280
Speaker 1: You're clearly still in the depression stage. So uh, good

1581
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:54,799
Speaker 1: luck getting a smile back on that face. Um. Maybe

1582
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 1: maybe Patty can take you out for ice cream or

1583
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:02,840
Speaker 1: something we gotta do, you know. And so he's been

1584
01:27:02,880 --> 01:27:05,120
Speaker 1: in a bad mood to past couple of days too,

1585
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:07,120
Speaker 1: and because he had a nice outfit that it was

1586
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:11,559
Speaker 1: gonna work to the game Sunday. But yeah, I think

1587
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: he's I think he's over it now too. So all right, well,

1588
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: thanks for the time, Therm, especially not just today but

1589
01:27:17,439 --> 01:27:19,320
Speaker 1: all season long. We'll catch up with you down the line.

1590
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 1: Take it easy, all right, go Bills. All right, man,

1591
01:27:22,080 --> 01:27:24,439
Speaker 1: that's Thurman. And you know the one question I didn't

1592
01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: ask him, which I can very easily ask you, and

1593
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,400
Speaker 1: I'll do it in the next segment. Climbing the mountain again.

1594
01:27:29,720 --> 01:27:32,519
Speaker 1: It's a monumental task, as you and Thurum know all

1595
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 1: too well. And I'm curious to know what's the most

1596
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: important component of climbing that mountain again in similar fashion

1597
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,840
Speaker 1: to the way you did in the years prior. We'll

1598
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:45,920
Speaker 1: get Steve's answer on that when we return here on

1599
01:27:45,920 --> 01:27:48,200
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live presented by Kalid to Health, It's Buffalo

1600
01:27:48,200 --> 01:28:05,320
Speaker 1: Bill's Radio. All right, So final segment here, and knowing

1601
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: that Steve and Thurman for that matter, have been guys

1602
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 1: that have had to start at the bottom of the

1603
01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:13,879
Speaker 1: mountain again after going as far as they could possibly

1604
01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: go in a season in pursuit of the ultimate prize?

1605
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: What is the number one key for a team like

1606
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: the Bills to get back up the mountain again? I first, first,

1607
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 1: and foremost, you gotta put this season to bed. You

1608
01:28:30,040 --> 01:28:32,040
Speaker 1: got you gotta wrap this up and say goodbye to

1609
01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:34,360
Speaker 1: it and get okay with it. Might take some a

1610
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:37,439
Speaker 1: while for some guy like Therm and me and you,

1611
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: you gotta get You gotta get rid of that last year.

1612
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Certainly there's a lot you can take forward and do

1613
01:28:42,120 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 1: all that, and you've got a positive to take out

1614
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:45,599
Speaker 1: of it. But you gotta get rid of that so

1615
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,840
Speaker 1: you can start thinking about what's next. And I think

1616
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:50,720
Speaker 1: they'll start doing that when they start thinking about new

1617
01:28:50,720 --> 01:28:52,880
Speaker 1: players on the roster. When they hear about the new roster,

1618
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,680
Speaker 1: be informed. You start to get your mind around what

1619
01:28:55,720 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 1: the team is going to be new and different, and

1620
01:28:57,400 --> 01:28:59,880
Speaker 1: you can look forward to something rather than be regretful

1621
01:28:59,880 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 1: of what you left behind. You gotta give it. You

1622
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: gotta say goodbye to that, let your new teams start

1623
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 1: to take shape and get excited about that. All right,

1624
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 1: that's fair. I'll sign up for that, and I think

1625
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:11,519
Speaker 1: these players are more than capable of doing that. They

1626
01:29:11,560 --> 01:29:14,520
Speaker 1: did that this year after you know, right, being disappointed

1627
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,040
Speaker 1: at the end last year, So hopefully they can rally

1628
01:29:17,040 --> 01:29:19,200
Speaker 1: and do that again. After letting this thing sit for

1629
01:29:19,240 --> 01:29:25,519
Speaker 1: a little bit. We're back tomorrow at one and got

1630
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 1: a good show for you. We're excited to bring it

1631
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:32,120
Speaker 1: to you. Jan will be joining us. We'll see you then.