1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian, I'm surprised we don't see moral electronic issues. 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: In course, I'm surprised we don't see more failures when 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,559 Speaker 1: you think about the amount of modules and software and 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: programming that are in cars today. The car Doctor you 5 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: gotta call him like you see him in baseball in 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,040 Speaker 1: order repair. Part of the problem is where you live. 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Made is the high salt concentration state. I mean you 8 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: guys dissolved the bridge in Bath Maine. So welcome to 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Anian, the Car Doctor. 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: Since this is where car owners the world overturned to 11 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:40,560 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,519 Speaker 1: call in. The garage doors are open, but I am 14 00:00:46,560 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 1: here to take your calls at eight five five five 15 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: six and now he running. Hey, it's time to start 16 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: your end in America. 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So but keep in mind, we are 32 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: here for you to answer your questions at zero zero 33 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: and there's a messaging service set up to that so 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: you can call leave a message Chief Cook and bottle 35 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: Washer Tom Ray, we'll call you back and to get 36 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: you in the next live broadcast. I want to talk 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: real quick about plastic if I can, because I want 38 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,680 Speaker 1: to get this out. This was kind of interesting this week, um, 39 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,559 Speaker 1: you know, talking about how cars are changing, right, had 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: a think about this. A twenty fifteen Chrysler two hundred 41 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: that had oil leaks and coolant leaks. They ran it 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 1: out of oil, they ran it out of cooling and 43 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: long story short Chrysler, in their infinite wisdom, makes the 44 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: oil filter adapter housing and the oil cooler out of plastic, 45 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: and then they bury this plastic two piece of plastic 46 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: underneath the plastic intake manifold, and the old rings on 47 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: this big chunk of plastic start to leak, and it 48 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: pumped probably five quarts of oil out over a course 49 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: of time, and it now has undercoated the rear of 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: this vehicle to the point the oil is dripping off 51 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: the back bumper. It will never rust and it needed 52 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: to be replaced. If that wasn't bad enough, there's also 53 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: a plastic crossover tube, a plastic passageway if you will, 54 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: that takes cooling from one side of the cylinder block 55 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: to the other side of the cylinder block. In the 56 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: front of the engine, that piece of plastic is leaking. 57 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,399 Speaker 1: You know, it's staggering. We're making cars out of plastic. 58 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: You know, I hate the clue anybody in, but it's 59 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: it's kind of critical mass stuff that you know, what's 60 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: the durability and longevity UM I had to deal with 61 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: that this week. I had a Chevy Cruise that had 62 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: a coolant leak at the thermostat housing alright, where the 63 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 1: thermostat housing bolted to the water pump. It was just 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: it was just spraying water everywhere, and you're saying, and 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: there's no crack. In the case of the Cruise, I 66 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: took it apart. The I mean cheesy design. They held 67 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: the thermostat in place to the thermostat housing with these 68 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: two little wafer thin fingers that kept the thermostat pellet 69 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: in place. And over time you could see that the 70 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 1: heat and the corrosion of the cool and the acidity. 71 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: And it was a heated thermostat, so it was always 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: it was always warm, if you will. Had baked the 73 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: play stick, gotten at brittle, and it just cracked and failed. Now, 74 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 1: interestingly enough, in the case of the Cruise, I had 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 1: replaced the I replaced that thermostat. I got a piece 76 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: at a GM and I looked at it, and it 77 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: was the same cheesy, you know, health thin. Can we 78 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: make a piece of plastic? I got one from motor Red, alright, 79 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: the good guys over at motor Red. I got a 80 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 1: motor Red thermostat and I looked at it. They actually 81 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:26,359 Speaker 1: improved the design. They put more plastic in it to 82 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: hold it tighter and you know, less fatigue, less issues. 83 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 1: So I put a motor Red thermostat in that in 84 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: that Chevy Cruise, and I think we're gonna get longer, 85 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: longer life out of it. And you know, those are 86 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: the things we're looking for. Tip of the hat to 87 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: the folks at motor Red, No wonder you guys just 88 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:42,360 Speaker 1: got so much industry recognition more at motor red dot 89 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 1: com um. You know, we're looking for that kind of improvement, 90 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: but everything has gotten to be plastic. It made me think, 91 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: you know, that was the cruise, it was christ there 92 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: there was something else we did this week that was plastic, 93 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: and I couldn't help but think that, you know, we 94 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about um, the government erasing fuel 95 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: and eliminating cars. The cars are going to eliminate themselves 96 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: are made out of plastic. They're gonna dissolve. Just point 97 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: of contention. So I just wanted to get that out 98 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: that I'm questioning what's really going on out there, but 99 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: plastic is playing a big part in that vehicle you're 100 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:18,160 Speaker 1: looking at. Let's get over the line. We want to 101 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: talk to John elivin Subaru and some problems with the clock. 102 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: John welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help? Hey, thanks, Ron, 103 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: You're welcome. I've got a two thousand eleven subre out back. 104 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: And uh, last time I changed the oil, the oil 105 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 1: light didn't go off. So I pulled the uh battery 106 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:43,599 Speaker 1: cable the negative battery cable, left it off for about 107 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:48,040 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds, put it back on, and the oil light 108 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,919 Speaker 1: went off. Well, I noticed as I was driving that 109 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: the clock had set itself to Eastern time from Central. 110 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 1: So I pushed the stems up to the side that 111 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: reset the clock. Uh, and they didn't work. And uh, 112 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:10,360 Speaker 1: so I just drove for a while and I kept 113 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: checking it and they never did work again. You know, 114 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: So you don't want to move to New Jersey is 115 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:20,720 Speaker 1: what you're saying. You want to fix this, not anytime soon. 116 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: Well you're are you? Are you in Wisconsin? No, I'm 117 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,919 Speaker 1: in Illinois, Central Illinois. Well you have our our prayers 118 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: are with you guys today. Um you guys, Um you guys. 119 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: You guys have more snow than us, though, right so 120 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 1: we have less snow. I think, well, we don't have 121 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: any right now, but we're gonna get a little bit 122 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:42,480 Speaker 1: uh tonight. Um. So I went to subar group, and 123 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: they pulled me into the to the bay there and 124 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 1: the tech come out. I told him my problem, and uh, 125 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: he looked at it and he pushed the stems for 126 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: the clock and everything, and after doing it, he said, well, 127 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: when he hold the battery cable, Uh, something happened in 128 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:02,400 Speaker 1: the computer hand. He said, uh, you just have to 129 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: live with it. And I said all right, and that 130 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:10,480 Speaker 1: was it. I was gonna pull both battery cables and 131 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: let them sit for a while. Len and I was 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: afraid that might cause other problems, and I felt, well, 133 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna called the car doctor and see what he says. Listen, 134 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a rule around the shop. The car's already broken. 135 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:28,559 Speaker 1: How much worse can it be? You know, it's already broke. 136 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: You can't break what's broke. So you know, um, if if, if, 137 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: if you can break it worse by disconnecting both battery cables, 138 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: then Subaru should stop selling cars in the United States 139 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: because they don't hold up. That doesn't make any sense 140 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 1: to me. Uh. You know, that's like saying every super 141 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: with a dead battery all of a sudden is gonna 142 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: pop a computer module because it doesn't have proper voltage. 143 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 1: That's you know what that that that technician needs to 144 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: go back to school. I would I would pull both 145 00:07:56,560 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: battery cables. And if you have the ability, you know 146 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: back in the day, and I'm gonna say, I'm gonna 147 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: say a word, and Tom's gonna faint because he loved 148 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: radio shack. Well, there he goes. Um, if you could 149 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: get your hands on it, if you could get your 150 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 1: hands on a ten m one watt resistor and make 151 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: a jumper wire and put that jumper between the two 152 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:25,679 Speaker 1: battery cables, that will safely allow the computers to bleed down. 153 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 1: It's it's sort of a it's sort of an electrical 154 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: shock absorber. That's why we put that resistor in there. 155 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 1: And it will it will allow the computers to bleed down. 156 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: And you can leave that hooked up as a jumper 157 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:38,199 Speaker 1: for you. Leave it hooked up for ten fifteen minutes, 158 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 1: bleed everything out of the car. Let it. Let it 159 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: come down to zero, all right, and then put the 160 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: cables back on. Put the positive on first, put the 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: negative on second, and and see what and see what 162 00:08:50,960 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: that does for you, all right, and try that and 163 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: if if that doesn't bring it back, then I have 164 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: to say that. Yeah, either we pop the fuse somewhere. 165 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: I don't think so, but either we pop the fuse 166 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: somewhere that you know, I would go through fuses just 167 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 1: to see how the circuits are protected. Or you need 168 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: a module of some magnitude. But boy, if that is, 169 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: that's that's too fragile for me. That's a car's gotta 170 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: be able. I understand it's a giant computer, but it's 171 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 1: got to be able to take some electrical durest. That 172 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: just doesn't make any sense. So um, let's give that 173 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: a shot. All right, You let me know what happens 174 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 1: to John. You're very welcome. You're very welcome, sir. Take 175 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: good care. Let's pull over and take a plus for 176 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: a cause, I'm running any in the car doctor. When 177 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: we come back, we're gonna go out to Missouri and 178 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 1: talk to Gerald right after this. Don't go away. What's 179 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: more fun than listening to Ron and any in the 180 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: car doctor and getting that car fixed? Right? Five? Five 181 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: five zero zero zero? Give Ron a call? Now back 182 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: to Ron. Hey, let's go over to Gerald and Missouri. Gerald. 183 00:09:55,640 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: Are you there, sir, Gerald? Yesterda? What's going on? How 184 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,360 Speaker 1: are you? How can I help, Well, I've got a 185 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 1: Doe four E one fifty. It's got a four point 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: six in it. It blew a spark plug out, which 187 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: which passenger sided, driver's side passengers or yeah, passenger side, 188 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: third plug back from the front. Uh, it was the 189 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: far back one, the last one of the second to 190 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: last one, the last one. Okay, and Ford put a 191 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: Healy coil in there, and of course it blew out. 192 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: And then I contacted them and they said that there 193 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 1: was nothing they could do, but um, talking to other 194 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: mechanics and stuff. One suggested, um, just replacing the head 195 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: because it's got two thousand miles on it. Another one said, 196 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: go ahead and replace both heads. And then the third 197 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: one said, well, don't mess with it, just put a 198 00:10:56,320 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 1: new motor in it and keep going. Well, okay, so 199 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: it's got twenty thousand miles on it, it's sixteen. Let's 200 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 1: see if it's about fifteen years old. And so the argument, 201 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: the argument could be made, Yeah, let's let's let's swing 202 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: a motor, put a motor in it. Let's let's look 203 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 1: at it from the other perspective. Let's say you put 204 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: two cylinder heads on it. Did you get a price 205 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 1: for that yet No, I heven't. Okay. So here's what 206 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna do. You're gonna get some numbers together. You're 207 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 1: gonna get some numbers together just to just to do heads, 208 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna weigh that out against doing a motor. 209 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: Right now, the Healy coil repair that the dealership did 210 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 1: didn't hold correct all right, So right now it's not working. 211 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: Now have you tried taking it to a machine shop. 212 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: Not not disparaging the dealership, you know ability, but you know, 213 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: generally around here, speaking from our perspective, you know I 214 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: wouldn't do that repair in house. I don't have the 215 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 1: skill set. I don't do enough of them. I can 216 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: tell you how it's on. I've watched it done. I 217 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: actually did one with the head off the car. I 218 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: went down to a Buddies machine shop and I talked 219 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:07,640 Speaker 1: to him to letting me do one because I wanted 220 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: the experience. But it's not something I would sell over 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: the counter to a consumer. I would say, listen, I'm 222 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna take it over to At the time, there were 223 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: machine shops in the area. Now there's nothing, and the problem, 224 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: the problem has gone away from our part of the 225 00:12:18,559 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: country for whatever reason, we don't see it nearly as much. 226 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: But what I want you away against is, you know, 227 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 1: if you take it to a machine shop, because there 228 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: are some things better than Healey coils that can go 229 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: in there. But what's gonna limit that is how was 230 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: it repaired? How much metal did they pull out of 231 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: the head to put the Healey coil in versus what 232 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: you know, putting a thread sirt or an insert in 233 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: there that the machine shop might have to do. Do 234 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: they have enough aluminum to work with still so that 235 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: that that could be a problem into itself. You get, 236 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: you get what I'm saying. Um, So it's can a 237 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: machine shop fix it? What's the price of doing heads? 238 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: What's the price of swinging a motor? And if you 239 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:58,959 Speaker 1: if you do do heads or a motor, the questions become, 240 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,840 Speaker 1: if you do head heads, what other issues does this 241 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 1: engine have? Does it have any oil leaks? Is the 242 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: oil pan rusty? The old four's where the oil pans 243 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 1: just seemed to rust out like holy heck. So you 244 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 1: know what other repairs are you gonna end up doing 245 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: to the engine other than doing cylinder heads? That becomes 246 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: a problem, and you know that puts you into do 247 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: you do an engine. I've got to think, you know, 248 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: new Jersey dollars, New Jersey dollars to swing a motor 249 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,680 Speaker 1: in that truck is probably every bit of six grand 250 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: sixty bucks, all right. I don't I don't know what 251 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: the labor rate is, and you know so forth down 252 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: in Missouri way, but I can tell you from North Jersey, 253 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: that's probably a going rate doing cylinder heads. The big 254 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: bucks is going to be the heads themselves. I've got 255 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: to think you were at least half that, maybe two 256 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: thirds of that. So the next question becomes, before you 257 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 1: put thirty to six thousand dollars into a truck that mileage, 258 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 1: that age, what's the rest of the truck like? And 259 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: I'm not saying not to do this, Gerald, I'm just saying, 260 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: you've got to look at this. Dollars and cents, no emotion, 261 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: all right, and you've you've got to stop to think. 262 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: Don't fall into the trap people say to me all 263 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: the time, it's a brand new truck. I just put 264 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: an engine in it. Yeah, there's about nine thousand other 265 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: pieces that still have two hundred thousand miles on it 266 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 1: that you know. It's it's not a new truck. It's 267 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a new truck with it's an 268 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: old truck with a new engine, so you know, and 269 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: then the question you've got to ask yourself is, and 270 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: again I'm not saying get rid of the truck. You 271 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 1: put a new engine in it, all right? If the 272 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,600 Speaker 1: trans fails in three months, if it, if it, if it, 273 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,880 Speaker 1: if it hasn't been replaced recently. If the trans were 274 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: to fail in three to six months, would you put 275 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: a transmission in it? And if the answer is yes, 276 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,120 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna tell you to do it. When you 277 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: do the engine and get it over with, what are 278 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: you waiting for? Because here's the catch and here's the 279 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 1: ultimate answer. Okay, you know, Let's say you put ten 280 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: grand in this truck and swing an engine in a transmission, 281 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 1: and you do a radiator, and you do your tune 282 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: up parts and your hoses and your belts and someone 283 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:02,240 Speaker 1: so forth, and the rest of the truck's in good shape. 284 00:15:02,280 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: I don't worry about breaks and shocks. Those are were items. 285 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: Tires are were items. The interior has got old. You know, 286 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: the seat kind of fits your butt good, right, it's 287 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: just kind of broken in so it makes you happy 288 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: you go buy that truck new? Do you know how much? Uh? 289 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: You know? And and well you can't buy and what 290 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: is an E one fifty? This is a van, right, gerald, 291 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 1: there's a van or pick up? There's a van. Uh? 292 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: So you can't buy Yeah, you can't buy these anymore. 293 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: You have to buy a transport, a full size transport. 294 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: So you know the full sized transports this size are 295 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: sixty grand. So you gotta sit there and weigh it 296 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:42,680 Speaker 1: out ten grand, sixty grand. Say that a couple of times, 297 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: and you'll get where I'm going, you know. So yeah, 298 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, it stinks, it happens, but it's just it's 299 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,720 Speaker 1: just it's just things to think about. And then the 300 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: last question I always put in everybody's mind standing at 301 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: the counter talking about things like this at the shop, 302 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: is do you still need the vehicle? You know? Is 303 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: this something from a previous use? You know, you had kids, 304 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: you had a business, you had a reason to have 305 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: a full size van that maybe you don't need it anymore. 306 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: And you know, if it's if it's you know, I'll 307 00:16:14,440 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: tell I'll tell you the story. Like this my ninetie 308 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 1: shop truck, my little ranger, it's got two U or 309 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 1: sixteen thousand miles on it, and I was debating getting 310 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: rid of it this year just because I said, yeah, 311 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: do I really need it? A whole scrap to the 312 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: junkyard with it. You know, we don't really run out 313 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: for parts that much anymore. It's not necessarily as handy 314 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: as it once was every once in a while, and 315 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 1: it's a couple of grand to ensure for one vehicle. 316 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: It's getting expensive. Um. You know. I actually debated getting 317 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,240 Speaker 1: rid of it because it didn't fit my lifestyle. And 318 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: in the end I decided to keep it because I 319 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: could come up with enough reason and justification. But it 320 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: forced me to look at, you know, the age, the mileage, 321 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: the cost to ensure. It forced me to look at 322 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: how bad do I need this vehicle? Or is it 323 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: something that I just have because I want to have it? Uh? 324 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 1: You know, you gotta answer those questions, uh, you know. Um, 325 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 1: So that's that's kind of how I would take at Gerald. 326 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,000 Speaker 1: It's it's got to start with a machine shop. Can 327 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: that be fixed? If it can't, then talk to them 328 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,520 Speaker 1: about you know, and hopefully you find a machine shop 329 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,119 Speaker 1: that can aid do headwork or be do engine work 330 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,560 Speaker 1: and the fact that it's a van doing it. Doing 331 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: it as an engine is gonna be a whole lot 332 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: easier because the first problem they're gonna have is all 333 00:17:20,280 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: the exhaust manifold studs on both sides are gonna be 334 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,679 Speaker 1: so weathered and rotted away they're not gonna be able 335 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: to get them off, and they're gonna break. At least 336 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 1: they would be in New Jersey. So, um, just just 337 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: things to be aware of, all right, sir, Well, yep, 338 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 1: just kind of a little side note. So you think 339 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: if I just got a team of horses and then 340 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: use it that a way, or just cut the top 341 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,400 Speaker 1: off of it and use as a flyer box, well 342 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: I would think, no, listen, you know what. I'll tell 343 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,000 Speaker 1: you what. I'll tell you a real quick story. Nissan 344 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: had a van, uh god, it's got to be twenty 345 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: five years ago. Nissan used to make a mini van 346 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that got recalled from the factory a Quest. I think 347 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: it was at the Nissan Quest. I can't remember the 348 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 1: exact model, but Nissan, as a car company, they had 349 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,159 Speaker 1: a van that just was a real It was a 350 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: horrible vehicle. So years ago it got recalled and a 351 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 1: friend of mine worked at the dealership where it got recalled, 352 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: and they got ahold of one of those. They cut 353 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: the top off completely, and him and his buddy, the 354 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: service manager, rode over to the neighboring dealership with a 355 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 1: complaint that we had a water league not telling them 356 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 1: who was coming, and they were taking it. The service 357 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: job in is a Hey, we're gonna take this car 358 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: into recall and take it back. What a shot they 359 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: saw when the van drove in with no roof. So 360 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: I get it, modify it, and use it. Gerald appreciate 361 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 1: the call. I'm on any in the car doctor. I'm 362 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 1: back right after this. Welcome back on any of the 363 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: car doctor. Let's get back to the phone's Jacob and Maine. 364 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Hi? Good? Not so? I have a 365 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:58,159 Speaker 1: two thousand nine niece and Rome meets my wife's vehicle. Uh. 366 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: Couple of weeks back. She went to open the door 367 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 1: to get in it and started driving. Door wouldn't open 368 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: from the outside, so she had to crawl in through 369 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 1: ultimately to put the passenger door to the same thing. Uh. 370 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: And the electronics still still work on it. You can 371 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: hear the clicks and whatnot, but I haven't torn it apart. Myself, 372 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: but I'm guessing it's the uh, the the actual or 373 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,520 Speaker 1: the door lock actual, but maybe the cables restrict or something, 374 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't know always there I can 375 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: buy cables for because the accident, I mean, the dealership 376 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: said for that type of job to doors from looking 377 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 1: at a thousand dollars and I just feel like they're 378 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 1: they're I'll kind of hose me on that. Well, tell 379 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: you what, Jacob, hold up before you do anything to this. 380 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: Did the dealership run the vent and check to see 381 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: if there's any open recalls on the vehicle. Well, they 382 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: didn't immediately, and I called my local mechanic just to 383 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 1: get at get his insight on on if he could 384 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 1: do a job like that or if I needed to 385 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,920 Speaker 1: do it through dealership, And he said, before you do anything, 386 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: call your dealership and stat question if it's like I 387 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 1: recall that they didn't issue uh publicly, you just have 388 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,080 Speaker 1: to have to request it. So I did call. They 389 00:20:09,119 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: looked all over and they they said maybe at one 390 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: time they may have been a recall, and then didn't 391 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 1: really defended to be answer, but they said I'm not 392 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 1: on it before any recall on on that particular part. 393 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: Why not, I said, said that, uh that if if 394 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: if it was recalled with it being an O nine, 395 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: it like the uh likely has been done or or 396 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,119 Speaker 1: and if it hasn't been done, it's expired by now. Yeah, okay, 397 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:35,159 Speaker 1: So for the first thing off the bat, and somebody 398 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 1: better proved me wrong on this. I know of no 399 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 1: recall that ever expires. I'm not yelling at you, all right, 400 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,320 Speaker 1: I know I know of no recall that ever expires. Uh. 401 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,719 Speaker 1: My my wife had an O five Malibu that had 402 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: a recall for the third middle row seatbelt buckle or 403 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: something that was just you know, you know what. We 404 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: got the recall notice every six months for the past 405 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:00,160 Speaker 1: twelve years until I traded the vehicle, and I think 406 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,479 Speaker 1: I still got one two months after it was traded in. 407 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: So recalls don't expire, all right, Yeah, you can kind 408 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: of in and have search for it. I think he's 409 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:14,600 Speaker 1: holding me so to my knowledge, there is a recall 410 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 1: on that rogue. I don't have I can't tell you definitive, 411 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: but I don't know if too many rogues of that 412 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: generation that weren't. But there's a recall where they're changing there. 413 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 1: There's a recall because the exterior handles do just what 414 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: you're describing. Um, And what they're gonna do is what 415 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 1: they're gonna do is they are going to put new 416 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: handles on it, and they're gonna put it they're gonna 417 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: put insulation to prevent water intrusion so it doesn't freeze. 418 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 1: And even if that was done, then they also have 419 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: then they also have an addendum to it where they 420 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:48,400 Speaker 1: had exterior latch problems, the letch mechanism itself went bad, 421 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: and they change that. So I would I would get out, Yeah, 422 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: I would get out to n h t s A 423 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: dot gov National Highway Traffic Safety Authority dot gov, plug 424 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:04,240 Speaker 1: plug your seventeen digit ven in and and and see 425 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: if that vehicle is applicable to it. To my knowledge, 426 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: it is. Wow. I'm glad. I heard that on on 427 00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: a couple of forums. I saw, you know, some people said, oh, 428 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: I brought it into my dealership and they said, you know, 429 00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,200 Speaker 1: we'll take care of it for you for your charge, 430 00:22:17,240 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: and not the people said we had that same problem. Um, 431 00:22:20,600 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: I went after market and well, you know, each such 432 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: a slash. But so I saw that in a common problem. 433 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:27,359 Speaker 1: But I I never would have thought, uh, yeah, maybe 434 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: I was right in the dealership is trying to put 435 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: the schools to me. Try a different dealer, you know. 436 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 1: And I don't understand that. I gotta tell you, I 437 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: don't understand that because the dealer is getting paid to 438 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: do it. It's a recall. Do the job son, you know. 439 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,920 Speaker 1: So try that. That doesn't work, call me back. Try 440 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: talking to Nissan corporate too. But let me run. My 441 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: phones are backed up. Let me know if you did 442 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: anything else to you. Good luck to you, Jacob hanging there. 443 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: Let's go over to Tony in Wisconsin on nine Han 444 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: to CRV. Tony, what do you got? I gotta go 445 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 1: nine to c RV. That that will only start in 446 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: the UM flood mode, which the Honda dealership told me 447 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: was of course the gas downturn the key for like 448 00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: seven seconds it will fire up. That's the only time 449 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: it will fire up. Though I have appeel code and 450 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 1: a p one. Well did all of this started once? 451 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Or is this all coming about you know, at different times? UM? 452 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 1: Overnight UM, As far as I can tell, it would start. 453 00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: Drove to work Friday night, month Saturday morning. I woke 454 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 1: up was very cold that night. Woke up Saturday morning, 455 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: tried to start it. It wouldn't start. I thought I 456 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: had some frozen lines, and I thought it all out. 457 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 1: It wouldn't start, and I got angry, and I just like, 458 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to push it to the floor. And 459 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: then it started, right, But I mean, and then runs 460 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: that has a sluggers start the fault codes themselves? Did 461 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: the fault codes themselves all come out? Or is a 462 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 1: check engine lighting on? And and then it started? The 463 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: check engine light has been on? What I did? I 464 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: took it in and had codes cleared, and then drove 465 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 1: it for twenty or four hours. And these are the 466 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: two codes that came back. Um so were those the 467 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,679 Speaker 1: two codes that were initially in it? Um? No, the 468 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: P one was not all right, but the one forty 469 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: five was okay. So it's got a purge valve fault. 470 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: That's the one, all right. I In the majority of cases, 471 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,000 Speaker 1: you could take a car from New Jersey and drive 472 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 1: it to California and back with a one forty five. 473 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: It's not gonna matter. THEE one is the one we're 474 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: worried about. Three forty one generally points towards an issue 475 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: with the VTC or the valve time and control solenoid, 476 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: which affects cam shaft timing, which is obviously critical. You're 477 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: telling me you have to put your foot to the floor, 478 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,760 Speaker 1: which is going to change in take manifold vacuum inside 479 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle and engines a big air pump, which tells 480 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: me that with a P zero three forty one, we've 481 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 1: likely got in cold weather. Either the VTC solenoid is 482 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 1: sticking and I'll put this in English in a minute. Um, 483 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,959 Speaker 1: the VTC solenoid is sticking, or the timing chain has 484 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:09,520 Speaker 1: jumped the tooth. How many miles on this car right 485 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: got high mileage, so it's probably got a stretch. It's 486 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: probably got a stretch timing chain. And I would tell 487 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,439 Speaker 1: you to focus on the three forty one fold first 488 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 1: we'll get fixed. Focus on the three forty one. Tell 489 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 1: them to follow diagnostics for that. And the first step 490 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: is gonna be take of the bicycle with the two sprockets, 491 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:32,240 Speaker 1: Big sprocket, little sprocket. You line up the sprockets, two dots, 492 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: they line up, they have to come around, make a 493 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: complete revolution. Line up again. Well, now one of your 494 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: dots is ahead of the other, so you know it's 495 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 1: likely CAM timing is out here, and the fact that 496 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,360 Speaker 1: CAM timing is out you've now affected manifold vacuum, which 497 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,959 Speaker 1: affects the way. If this is a mass airflow sensor car, 498 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna affect the way air pulse has come through 499 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,919 Speaker 1: the sensor. If this is a map sensor car, it's 500 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,239 Speaker 1: gonna affect the way the map sensor reads. Opening up 501 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: the throttle is the great equalizer and it it makes 502 00:25:56,560 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: the change, all right, So focus the v t C 503 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,440 Speaker 1: I replaced about a month ago because I had I 504 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 1: had that code run um earlier too. Okay, So then, 505 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: so then now you've got a new part in there. 506 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: If you're a long time listener, you know what news 507 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: stands for never ever worked, Um, I knew. And then 508 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: and then the other question is now you got a 509 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: v t C in there, which it doesn't mean the 510 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: salinoid itself is bad. It just means valve timing is off. 511 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: So now you might if you've still got that fault. 512 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: Do you have a mechanical fault. Somebody has to mechanically 513 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: check the chain to make sure the bicycle sprockets haven't 514 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: jumped the tooth, that the chain has that much stretch 515 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,360 Speaker 1: in it. Ye okay, all right, sir, but that's where 516 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 1: you're going. Focus on the three forty one. We'll go 517 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,239 Speaker 1: from there. Call me next week. Thank you very much. 518 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: You're very welcome. Five zero the car doc is coming 519 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: right back. Don't go away. Right it on the wall 520 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: so you don't forget to call our car advice. Done right? 521 00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 1: Eight five five five zero zero zero. Now back to rag. Hey, 522 00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:07,959 Speaker 1: we're in the run for the money. As we kind 523 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 1: of wind it down here, let's go over to Jim 524 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: in Colorado. Jim, you around with the car doctor. What's 525 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: going on? Iron? I have a nine four fifty the 526 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: early power stroke, and I don't use it all winter? 527 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: How often should I exercise it? As often as you can? 528 00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: And I say that, and you know, on all seriousness, 529 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: cars that sit just there's nothing good about it. Uh 530 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 1: you know. Oh, let's see, gee, I just had black out. 531 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: I had the hot rod out two weeks ago. Three 532 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: weeks ago. There was no salt, there was no snow. 533 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,400 Speaker 1: It was a semi warm day here in New Jersey, 534 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: about forty five degrees. I pulled the cover off and 535 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,439 Speaker 1: I took it for a forty five minute roud. Uh 536 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 1: you know, and it was about far five weeks since 537 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: I did at last. You know, they shouldn't sit that long. 538 00:27:51,400 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: It's not really great for him. Hopefully you're keeping it 539 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 1: inside in a warm garage or as its stored outdoors 540 00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 1: it's storm at started and a warm shop and then 541 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 1: has a battery tender attached, right, so you know that's 542 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: okay if it has to sit all winter because you 543 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: just can't get it out, Jim over, inflate the tires, 544 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: keep it warm, keep the batteries on charge. You know, obviously, 545 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: with it being a diesel, you've got fuel concerns because 546 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,360 Speaker 1: sometimes in a warm environment that affects the fuel quality too, 547 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: so you've got to work with that and put some 548 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: additives in there to keep the fuel fresh. But you know, 549 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,640 Speaker 1: if it's just a case where you can't get it out, 550 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,359 Speaker 1: then just keep it warm. But if you can, I 551 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: like to exercise everything every three to five weeks. It 552 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,440 Speaker 1: just does them all the wonders in the world. All right, sir, 553 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: very good, Thank you, You're very welcome. You take good care. 554 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: Rolling in Delaware. You're up next seventy eight Cadillactaville. What's 555 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: going on here? Roland? All right right now, the first 556 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: time calling to you. I have a seventy eight catile 557 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: Xaville and it keeps popping the computer. Rout is members 558 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: on the computer, so I send it to a computer 559 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: place to get it repaired. But I don't know where 560 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: to get a replacement for it, right, so it lays 561 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: it up, It runs great, it hown. Does this happen 562 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 1: rolling about twenty five minutes after I started up, all right, 563 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: So it's a continuous failure. So that means that there's 564 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 1: a when you say popping the computer out, you're telling 565 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: me it it actually kills the computers is somewhere and 566 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,400 Speaker 1: the reason, for some reason the computer dies and the 567 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: car shuts off. Correct, Yeah, on the motherboard one or 568 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: that one of the areas chooses out. Uh, I've traced it. 569 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: And I was gonna put a circuit breaker or fuse 570 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: on the hot wire into the computer or I don't 571 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: know whether that would damage it, or I was gonna 572 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: just take the the injector off and put the carburetor 573 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: on with that reduces the value of the whole thing, right, Yeah, 574 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: And I get it. Um, you know the problem here 575 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: is that and it sounds like you've got a fault 576 00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: in the wiring harness or a component. So you really 577 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 1: have to go through and do a resistance check on 578 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: all the solnoids and actuators tied into that computer. And 579 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 1: if memory serves me right, anything anything other than twenty 580 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 1: ohms was the It was a twenty or ten olms. 581 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 1: There's a number. There's a spec somewhere. We're going back 582 00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: forty or fifty years, but there's a very specific number 583 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: that I believe it was twenty olms. It can't be 584 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: more than it can't be less than twenty olms. Was 585 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 1: a number, um, and we're looking for that to be 586 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: as a constant. And other than that, that'll take out 587 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: the PCM. If I remember correctly what was common. This 588 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 1: has a two or four wire plug at the trans 589 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: controller going into the transmission for the torque converter. Four 590 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,000 Speaker 1: four unplugged the torque converter. See if the problem goes away, 591 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: don't drive the car, just let the car sit there 592 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: and ill. If you get a computer and you want 593 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: to try something, UM, you could also olm the torque 594 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: converter solenoid which is inside the trans because if I 595 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 1: recall correctly, they had a very high failure rate, and 596 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,200 Speaker 1: they would cause exactly what you're describing to me to happen. 597 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,800 Speaker 1: Can you tell me where it is? Number? If it's 598 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: listed replacement number four computer? It is no, sir, that 599 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you, But I can tell you that 600 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: the torqu converter solenoid, the one I'd be concerned about, 601 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: is inside the trans That's always good news, right, Yeah, 602 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: well it's always it's always the hardest place. Listen. Look 603 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,240 Speaker 1: at it this way. If you took the car off 604 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: the road, you'd make Congresswoman Cortes from New York very 605 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: happy because be one less fossil fuel vehicle polluting the planet. Um. 606 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Of course it wouldn't make me happy, but at least 607 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: we make her happy for once. So UM trying. Yeah, listen, 608 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: do what you can, brother, and if you need more help, 609 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: you call us back. All right, good luck to you. 610 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 1: Let's let's go over to Tom in Delaware sixteen Toyota 611 00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: four Runner and some questions about taking care of the windows. Tom, 612 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 1: you're out the car, doctor, what's going on? Yeah, I'm 613 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,479 Speaker 1: just trying to find the best solution for getting acid 614 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,240 Speaker 1: rain off the windows. Um, what are you worried about? Tom? 615 00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that seriously just cosmetic. Um, I lived 616 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: near the beach. Okay, so you're really asking how do 617 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: you take care of the glass, And I'm not so 618 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: worried about the glass alone. I always worry about I 619 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: always just worry about the overall vehicle because that acid 620 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: rain gets on the paint. I A lot of people 621 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 1: don't agree with me. I waxed my window. Is my 622 00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: side windows anyway, I will wax the side windows of 623 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: a vehicle. I'll just like I waxed the vehicle itself, 624 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:09,280 Speaker 1: and you know, I'll use I'll use just good quality wax, 625 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: something from McGuire's or you know, there's a couple of 626 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: the choices out there, but I like a lot of 627 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: the McGuire's product where I'll just do spray on wax 628 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 Speaker 1: or just a light coating of wax. I'll wax the 629 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: windows and just you know, and that's what cleans it 630 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: up and keeps it clean for me. So all right, sorry, 631 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: I'll give that a shot. All right, let me know 632 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: how that works for you, and keep us posted. Good 633 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:29,880 Speaker 1: luck to get down there in Delaware. I'm run any 634 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:36,160 Speaker 1: in the car. Doctor. We're back right after this all right, 635 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: let's get into it, run in any of the car. DOCU. 636 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: Let's go to Matt and Florida. Matt, we've got three minutes. 637 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: What's going on? Brother? Uh? Two thousand seven A three fifty? 638 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 1: I want it used? Um then bought a used travel 639 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 1: by control off eBay. Fucking play and it doesn't seem 640 00:32:56,720 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 1: to work. Okay, I can. I can feel. I can 641 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: feel a trailer talk a little bit, so I hit 642 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 1: the brakes. I can. I can feel it if if 643 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: the trailer is emptying and I'm just sitting there along 644 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: the park and put it and drive along the parking lot, 645 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: I can just I can feel resistance. So don't you 646 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: bought that? You bought the trailer break controller used on eBay? Yes, okay, 647 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,040 Speaker 1: the vehicle was equipped with it, or you added this 648 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: as the installed kit. The vehicle is wired and ready 649 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 1: for it. Okay, it goes you know, you know, you 650 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: just plug you pull the harns out and plug it in. 651 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 1: Your got you. But the instrument cluster displays d B 652 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: t BC fault. Yes when it's okay? So you got 653 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,400 Speaker 1: a pencil and paper, yes, all right. It wouldn't be 654 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: uncommon to have a bad TBC controller. So saying that, 655 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: all right, there's some specific things I want you to check. 656 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:56,000 Speaker 1: Central junction box, the one on to the dashboard. All right, 657 00:33:57,040 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 1: take a look at take a look at fuses eighteen 658 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: to twenty amp. Fuse one oh one it's a thirty amp. 659 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: Fuse twenty it's a fifteen amp. And fuse twenty eight 660 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: it's a ten amp. You need me to go through 661 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:22,560 Speaker 1: that again. Eighteen is one, o one is thirty and 662 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: eight is ten. All right. Now we're obviously we're looking 663 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: for a blown fuse, but we're also looking for missing 664 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: or poorly connected fuses. When I say poorly connected, FORD 665 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,879 Speaker 1: has some Ford has some issues where the fuses will 666 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: have a little pit or burn marks in them. They 667 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: look they look burnt. Higher high resistance. It affects the 668 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,800 Speaker 1: operation of the circuit a lot of times the component 669 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 1: won't work. Change those fuses, clean the terminals in the box. 670 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: All right, Then you've got to go through There are 671 00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,320 Speaker 1: three power leads going up to the TBC module. You 672 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: can have to get an a wiring diagram. Check those. 673 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: If those check good and the fuses check good, logically 674 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: you've got a bad TVC module, go through it. Call 675 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 1: me back. I'll run an anting of the car doctor, 676 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: reminding you good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you