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Speaker 1: great day. We're gonna go with little Curveball today because

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Speaker 1: back and listen. Today we'll be college only and a

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Speaker 1: Jackson here, and he sent me a visual. He's from

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Speaker 1: Arizona somehow played football at Montana. Yet he's a Notre

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Speaker 1: after Notre Dame. You know, pretty impressive win, right, I

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Speaker 3: But that's where we see.

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Speaker 1: It was a legitate win, it's a road win. That's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting time to be a Notre Dame fan. Not

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Speaker 2: Speaking of a coach that you talked earlier, went to Oregon,

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Speaker 2: then went over to Miami, his home Mario chriusball Miami,

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Speaker 2: they lose to Syracuse. And what was another team that

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Speaker 2: controlled their own destiny as Syracuse a team where I

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Speaker 2: don't think anyone had a better weekend than Kyle McCord.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you beat six Miami, your old team, Ohios,

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Speaker 2: they lose to Michigan. Again, what do you make of

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Speaker 2: Mario christaball in Miami where you get the transfer quarterback

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Speaker 2: guy and cam Ward probably not going to play in

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Speaker 2: the bowl game, and you lose to Syracuse and you

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Speaker 2: have probably one of the worst defenses in the country.

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Speaker 3: I mean, forty two to forty five points that Syracuse scored.

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Speaker 2: You have a twenty one zero it's fourth and goal

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Speaker 2: You decided to kick the field goal and just hope

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Speaker 2: that your defense stops him. Like I don't know, I

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Speaker 2: was puzzled by that move because it was one of

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Speaker 2: those things where, oh, here we go, Mario Christobal makes

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Speaker 2: it a dumb headed coaching decision, and now it kind

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Speaker 2: of cost Miami their season.

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Speaker 3: What'd you make of that game in Miami losing to Syracuse.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch that much of that game, but throughout

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Speaker 1: the season they have been flirting with disaster, right they

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Speaker 1: trying to pull up. So the Virginia Tech game, which

510
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Speaker 1: they easily could have lost on that Hail Mary play

511
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 1: the Cow game, they were getting their ass kicked and

512
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Speaker 1: had a crazy comeback in the middle of the night.

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Speaker 1: Louisville game was back and forth. The Georgia Tech game

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Speaker 1: they lost. So I look at Miami and I go

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Speaker 1: Mario is a good example. He is an elite recruiter.

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Speaker 1: He is like ed O the he's this version of

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Speaker 1: ed now that Ed's retired, like he's at ojon. I

518
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Speaker 1: think people question like does he know what he's doing?

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Speaker 1: Like the one thing Nick was really good at? Who

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Speaker 1: was This is why Nick was John Wooden of college football.

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Speaker 1: He was the best recruiter and he was the best

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Speaker 1: schematic guy. Kirby is like the you know, I would

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Speaker 1: say the water down version of that. He's not to

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Speaker 1: be Nick Saban, but he's freaking good. He's an elite

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Speaker 1: recruiter and clearly no scheme, especially defense. Nick was like,

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Speaker 1: I think the old in his older years, I had

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Speaker 1: a very good idea of what he wanted on offense Kirby, Like,

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Speaker 1: you know who, if you're a Kirby's offensive coordinator's a

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Speaker 1: pretty good gig you get to run it. I just

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Speaker 1: questioned as Mario crystal ball because you go back to

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Speaker 1: Oregon and the knock on him was like he just

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Speaker 1: couldn't now scheme anybody. And that's not really his baby.

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Speaker 1: He's kind of a meathead kind of Ojeron. Well, when

534
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Speaker 1: did Ojeron win the natty? Is? Who are his two coaches?

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Speaker 1: David Randa was the ball dude was his defensive coordinator, right,

536
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Speaker 1: who ended up getting the Baylor job, And I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if he's gonna get fired

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Speaker 1: or not, but he's an excellent college defensive coordinator. And

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Speaker 1: Joe Brady, who we see with the Buffalo Bills. So

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Speaker 1: it's like, if you get lightning in a bottle with

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Speaker 1: your coordinators at Mario, you got a shot. I do

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Speaker 1: think like their defense sucks, they will give him money

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Speaker 1: and he will recruit defensive players that won't be the problem.

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Speaker 1: Like talent over the next five years is not going

545
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Speaker 1: to be the issue at Miami. I would say Miami

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Speaker 1: will have as much talent as any team in the South,

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Speaker 1: like not named Georgia Bamarelsu, Like, they will be right

548
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: there with anyone talent wise, but it's like they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna Who would you take in a coaching matchup Kirby

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Speaker 1: de Bor Brian Kelly, like you do. Those guys have

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Speaker 1: proven that's Mario that's the problem. And I get it.

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Speaker 1: He's their guy and he's passionate about it. But can

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Speaker 1: you imagine sitting here December third, like a month ago,

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Speaker 1: if you would have said, like, Miami's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: in the conference championship game and just out of the playoff.

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00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: That's pretty crazy. Even when they were kind of, you know,

557
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: skirting by. They're like the college version of the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: where they were winning some of these crazy games, but

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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, the Chiefs still have

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Speaker 1: Mahomes and Andy Reid, where you're like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if Mario can hold on to this rope is getting

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00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 1: thinner and thinner, and then all of a sudden it

563
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Speaker 1: breaks and now you're like, yeah, they're just done. They're

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Speaker 1: not even in the conference championship game. That's that's insane.

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00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 1: They're not in the conference championship game. That's wild. Wild.

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Speaker 1: Syracuse is good though they went nine and McCord and that.

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Speaker 1: I was telling this to a buddy the other day.

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Speaker 1: My entire life in college football and then my couple

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Speaker 1: of years at Fresno State, players like, if you were

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Speaker 1: a Division IE player and you had you had NFL talent,

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Speaker 1: you were gonna go through a period and maybe a year,

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Speaker 1: whether you were at Fresno State, whether you're at USC, Oregon, Miami, whatever,

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Speaker 1: or you might have a bad year even if you're

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Speaker 1: a starter, you know, or a year that like this

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Speaker 1: is not I can't hang my hat on this. I'm

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Speaker 1: not gonna get drafted off it. I'm gonna have the

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Speaker 1: entire offseason. I'm gonna work my ass off, I'm gonna

578
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Speaker 1: come back and I'm gonna parlay my adversity and my

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Speaker 1: struggles into good play. And then all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, he had a rough sophomore year, but

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Speaker 1: his junior year borderline All American second round pick. Kyle

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Speaker 1: McCord is a good example my entire life Kyle McCord

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Speaker 1: has I don't even want to say, a bad year

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, it just felt like, oh, they'd sneed

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Speaker 1: a little more a Kyle McCord. He comes back and

586
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Speaker 1: then it's like, what if he's won the Heisman at

587
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Speaker 1: Ohio State this year, but instead they blamed on him.

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Speaker 1: He transfers to Syracuse. He's clearly pretty good. He's a

589
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Speaker 1: better thrower of the football than Will Howard.

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Speaker 3: He's the leading passer in the country right now.

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Speaker 1: That Will. I think Chip likes more of a mobile runner. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So it's like Chip wouldn't really you know, Saban would

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Speaker 1: have liked like a lot of other teams, like the

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Speaker 1: way this guy Kirby would like Kyle McCord, like that

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Speaker 1: type player Chip wants. Will Howard in theory was like

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Speaker 1: a bigger, stronger Mariota type. But it's like at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, you had to you need to

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Speaker 1: throw the ball, which is let them down in some

599
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Speaker 1: of these big spots because Will Howard, like your guy,

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Speaker 1: is not really viewed as like some big time NFL thrower,

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Speaker 1: but they can be athletes. Kyle mcc like, you can't

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Speaker 1: tell me if Kyle McCord was the way that he

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Speaker 1: looked this year like they're not better. They have fucking

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Speaker 1: three NFL receivers. They got one guy that's like seventeen

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Speaker 1: to eighteen year old. They would probably be a top

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Speaker 1: twenty pick right now. Him and him and Ryan Williams. Honestly,

607
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Speaker 1: they might go top ten. You just be like, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's gonn to be hard for him year one to

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Speaker 1: get him a little stronger. But those guys could be

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Speaker 1: like the top five picks in three years or two years.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of another team with the quarterback that's been up

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Speaker 2: and down, has your outlook changed on Texas going on

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Speaker 2: the road at Texas A and M. It was old rocky,

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Speaker 2: you know, two red zone turnovers by Quinn viewers. But

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Speaker 2: they got the job done on the road against Texas

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Speaker 2: A and M seventeen to seven. Although it wasn't pretty man,

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Speaker 2: that defense continues to keep them in games.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the receiver seven is Mond's hurt or bond right

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Speaker 1: He's looks he looks banged up right now, which to me,

620
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Speaker 1: if they're gonna win the Natty, they need him healthy

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Speaker 1: because their running backs good. So I'm not a quinn

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Speaker 1: Ewers guy. And that game was a classic example. He

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Speaker 1: back in the game. And if the play calling on

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Speaker 1: the goal line with an athletic quarterback to just run

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Speaker 1: up the gut was a head scratcher. But Texas, I

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Speaker 1: think if they play A and M ten times and

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Speaker 1: both teams are healthy, Texas winning that seven. Texas is

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Speaker 1: the better team right now. How about Arch sneaky getting

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Speaker 1: some more run.

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Speaker 3: The team.

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Speaker 2: I feel like their energy is so much different with

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Speaker 2: Arch Manning versus Quinn Eewers where I don't know, after

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Speaker 2: if Arch is in that position, if he can make

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Speaker 2: those throws.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, I was at that Georgia Texas game.

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Speaker 2: He looked he looked flustered, But part of that was

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Speaker 2: because the offensive line was just getting bullied.

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Speaker 1: They were getting destroyed. And that's you have to wonder

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Speaker 1: this week. I think they had seven sacks when they

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Speaker 1: played Georgia last time, and it felt like twenty five pressures.

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Speaker 1: If that happens again, they will lose. You know. In

646
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: that Georgia Tech game. CJ Allen, number three, the linebacker

647
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: for Georgia, looked like Ray Lewis in his prime. He

648
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: was a man amongst boys, and against Texas it wasn't

649
00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: just hit, it was Walker number eleven. To me, like

650
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 1: Quinn yours, what makes me nervous? And that's what if

651
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: George is just an elite matchup against these guys, like

652
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: your offensive line is a little overhyped and we dominate

653
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: up front. Right because even against Georgia Tech, uh, what's

654
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: the name? Haines King is getting absolutely killed, but he

655
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: just keeps getting up and it's you know, Quinn yours.

656
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I think the downfall this year

657
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: of Texas is ultimately gonna be quarterback play. Quarterback play,

658
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: so when you look at it could be Georgia as well.

659
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: But I would say Carson Beck when he's got in

660
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: rhythm in stretches, in games, Carson Beck is a better

661
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: player in my opinion than Quinn yours.

662
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 3: He has a thrown interception in three weeks. Who's that

663
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Carson Beck?

664
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's playing better right now than yours.

665
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, one hundred percent. They've they've utilized it.

666
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 2: Tie in a lot more to Oscar delp than Cash

667
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 2: Jones had a good day too. But when you look

668
00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: at that Texas Georgia game, do you think it's pretty

669
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 2: much it comes down to the quarterback position to who

670
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 2: cannot turn the ball over and put their team in

671
00:32:59,440 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: bad spot.

672
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,120
Speaker 3: That's in a big game like this, Well, yours who.

673
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:04,040
Speaker 1: Got benched in the game?

674
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: You were?

675
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Speaker 1: You got benched, you know for a you know, basically

676
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,640
Speaker 1: told to take a deep breath of the sideline, a benching.

677
00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: He comes right back out of half time.

678
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:11,480
Speaker 3: He no.

679
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 2: I've being at that game when he threw that second interception,

680
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 2: and you know some people when they kind of move

681
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: their legs, they kind of rattle it back and forth

682
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: because they're just so anxious. That was Quinn you Weers

683
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: in that game, and you wonder I thought he was hurt.

684
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know why they pulled him out.

685
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 2: And then Arch comes in so loud, stadium goes crazy

686
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 2: having Arch Spanning go win there. But yeah, I mean

687
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Quinn Youwers, He's one of those guys. I feel like

688
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 2: when he's in rhythm, he's relaxed, he's calm. He's one

689
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 2: of the best quarterbacks in the country. But if he

690
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: could throw an interception and he gets rattled early on.

691
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: It just continues throughout the game. It's tough to get

692
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: him back in that calm matter.

693
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: I feel like, well, to me, the one thing cool

694
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: about the nil era is because back, you know, before

695
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: three years ago, you couldn't have jerseys of players with

696
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: their last name. How many Manning jerseys did you see

697
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: at the Texas game on the ratio? Was it ninety

698
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: percent of the jerseys that you saw were say, Manny

699
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: on the back?

700
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, or they had the sixteen no Manning name

701
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: on the last name, but you knew it was him.

702
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Carson Beck if I remember through multiple interceptions as well

703
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: in the Texas game, so it's not like.

704
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,040
Speaker 2: He two of them were his receivers, they dropped them.

705
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,839
Speaker 2: But yeah, he threw I think three interceptions and then

706
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:23,400
Speaker 2: quinn Ewers had two or three as well. But for

707
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 2: quinn Ewers it was his interceptions were in his own territory,

708
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 2: which Georgia was like, okay, we're gonna have the ball

709
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: into twenty five, like this is easy, this clockwork.

710
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: One thing that'll be you know, historically right before Texas,

711
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: Oklahoma got here, and really since in the Kirby era,

712
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: it was Georgia versus LSU or Bama basically, right, And

713
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,480
Speaker 1: even though it's basically a Georgia home game because in

714
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: where the Falcons play, it's not that hard for LSU

715
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: fans or Bama fans, like they're gonna be there too.

716
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,719
Speaker 1: They might not be fifty to fifty split, but they

717
00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: were gonna have a big presence. I'll be very interested

718
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: in the Texas presence, like do they treat this like

719
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: a super Bowl, Like it's like we're fifty we will

720
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: do anything to be there. Or is it just one

721
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: of those like we know we're going to the playoffs

722
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: no matter what. Georgia's ends up having eighty ninety percent

723
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:18,720
Speaker 1: of the fans, right, And because that's that's a sneaky

724
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: thing to me in these games. I saw it last

725
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 1: year in you know, Oregon Washington, which was the PAC

726
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: twelve game where Oregon was a huge favorite and it's

727
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: an easy place for them to travel. Washington traveled pretty

728
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:33,320
Speaker 1: well there too, And you know who shows up because

729
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,319
Speaker 1: these are neutral site games, but they're kind of not

730
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: because you do get a big, big presence. That's always

731
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,360
Speaker 1: the thing in Indy, like if Ohio State or Michigan

732
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: are there like it's a it's a home game for them.

733
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 1: And if this is an eighty percent people of Georgia,

734
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,480
Speaker 1: like that's gonna be a Georgia home game. That's a

735
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,320
Speaker 1: very very tough thing to overcome in terms of the noise.

736
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: It's in a dome, you know, Kirby, I guess they

737
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: get the extra night arrest, right because they played for

738
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,200
Speaker 1: this is on paper. I think this in Oregon Penn

739
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: State are just fantastic games. Based on what I see.

740
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge believer, and it just gets back

741
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: to quinn Ewers. Not that I like Carson Becky either.

742
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: I just think that defensive line. I mean, those guys.

743
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: I wonder if they took Georgia Tech a little. They

744
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: just weren't that focus in that game, and all of

745
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: a sudden they had themselves a game, right, They were

746
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: down multiple touchdowns in the fourth quarter and it took

747
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: all they had just to tie the game, get it

748
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: to overtime. Obviously, the overtime's a little quirky and weird,

749
00:36:32,080 --> 00:36:36,920
Speaker 1: but I just feel like, I like Georgia. Let's talk

750
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: about the Big Ten championship then Penn State, Oregon, Penn

751
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: State I mean they weren't expected to be in the

752
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 1: Big Ten championship. Ohio State loses a short period of time.

753
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: You wonder if that plays would advantage of James Franklin.

754
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,399
Speaker 1: Where before he kind of knew of the big time

755
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 1: games a long time before and couldn't get it done.

756
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: Now it's a short week play in Oregon. How do

757
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: you see this?

758
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: Do you think James Franklin and Penn State can get

759
00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 2: it done against Oregon or do you think Oregon's just

760
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 2: too much for Penn State.

761
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,279
Speaker 1: Well, I was thinking about this today. You know, he

762
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,359
Speaker 1: takes a lot of shit right. Everyone says he can't

763
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: win a big game, and for the most part it's

764
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: true when he plays Ohio State, when he plays Michigan,

765
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: there looks like there's a discrepancy. And because he has

766
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,839
Speaker 1: rosters like them in terms of five star players, when

767
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: he plays most of the other scrub teams in the conference,

768
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: they just overwhelm them with talent. This would be a

769
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 1: moment if James Franklin won with Ryan Day losing, it'd

770
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: be a pretty big moment for the guy. It'd be

771
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: one of those where, I mean he makes a ton

772
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: of money, he's on a huge contract. It's not like

773
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 1: he's in danger of getting fired or going broke or whatever,

774
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 1: because he's done a good job. I just this the

775
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: line is like three and a half points. It's not

776
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: like Oregon is some eight point favorite in this game.

777
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 1: Last year Oregon against Washington, who ended up beating Texas

778
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:59,040
Speaker 1: obviously got boat raced by Michigan, but was really good,

779
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: and who had beat Oregon two times in a row

780
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 1: in the regular season with Doboor, I think was an

781
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 1: eight and a half or nine point favorite in Vegas.

782
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: So this is Oregon, especially the second half of the

783
00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: season post Ohio State, has been good. Right, they look awesome.

784
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:17,560
Speaker 1: That that number is a little weird. I mean it's

785
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 1: it's like Vegas is screaming at you. I dare you

786
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: delay the points with Oregon? I dare it? So it's

787
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: just I don't know.

788
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 2: I what is that weird to you?

789
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: No, that's seven point favorite.

790
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 3: Yeah.

791
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 2: I actually thought that too when you look at it,

792
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 2: because all the all the conference championship games around two

793
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,279
Speaker 2: and a half two three point spreads, And you're right,

794
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: I thought in this one Oregon, the how dominant they

795
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 2: looked this season then beating Ohio State Penn State not

796
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: beating Ohio State at home the line being two and

797
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:47,680
Speaker 2: a half three that it's got to give.

798
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 3: You a little hope that Penn State can keep it close.

799
00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 2: I just wondered, at what type of Penn State are

800
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: we gonna see the Penn State at USC when juw

801
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: Hour threw for like two hundred and fifty yards, three

802
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 2: hundred yards, they got Tyler Warren involved had like one

803
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 2: of the most catches by a tight end. Or are we

804
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 2: going to see the Penn State where they kind of

805
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 2: don't throw the ball on the outside, They just keep

806
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 2: everything in and just run the ball and don't really

807
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: kind of threaten the ball downfield. So I wonder if

808
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 2: for this game at Penn State, the wide receivers and

809
00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 2: the Titans can be effective against Oregon.

810
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 3: And then for Oregon side.

811
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: I mean, they've looked great all year when they get

812
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 2: punched in the mouth, how they look against Penn State.

813
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 2: Penn State's defensive lines dominant, Oregon's got a good offensive line.

814
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,360
Speaker 2: You know which coach is gonna be more aggressive? Is

815
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:27,400
Speaker 2: Dan Lanning going to be kind of you know, the

816
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 2: four downs in midfield? Is he gonna go for it earlier?

817
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,359
Speaker 2: Is he can to be kind of conservative, But yeah,

818
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: I think you're right. I think Penn State being a

819
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 2: three point underdog, it's like, what do the sportsbooks know

820
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:37,799
Speaker 2: that we don't know?

821
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Well. The other thing is now that the conference realignment,

822
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 1: this game has been an indie. I feel like ever

823
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: since I can remember. It's kind of like the acc

824
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: huge geographical advantage for Penn State. Not as far same

825
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: thing Clemson. Where's that at the Orange Bowl or wherever?

826
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 1: It's in Charlotte at Chanther Stadium. So it's like, what

827
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: is is that gonna be? Smu is coming from Texas,

828
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,759
Speaker 1: Dallas or whatever, and they just driving down the road

829
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: Oregon travels, I mean at a very very high level.

830
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: That's a pretty long travel for a game that matters

831
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 1: but doesn't really matter. You know, they're they're a lock.

832
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: They're either gonna be the one seed or the five seed.

833
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 1: And if they're the five seed, they would be playing

834
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: a home game in two weeks. So you're like, can

835
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,120
Speaker 1: I just stay at home and watch this on TV?

836
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 1: If I'm a West Coast Duck fan, where before it's like, oh,

837
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: let's go to Vegas. We're playing Friday night against Washington

838
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 1: it's a rival. It's sweet. I wonder if big advantage

839
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 1: Penn State in terms of geographically home game like that.

840
00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: That's something that sticks out to me in these games.

841
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,160
Speaker 1: If it's fifty to fifty, then whatever, But I wonder

842
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: just if it is gonna be like seventy to thirty

843
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 1: Penn State just based on closeness it is a bigger

844
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: game for Penn State because that's a big deal.

845
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: I think it's really quite because we talked about it too,

846
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 2: about how December twentieth is when the first round starts

847
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,280
Speaker 2: and then the National Championships January twentieth.

848
00:41:08,320 --> 00:41:10,760
Speaker 3: There's about like ten days in between each round.

849
00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 2: So if you're an Oregon or Texas fan, you said, hey,

850
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 2: do we go out and go to the Big ten

851
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,839
Speaker 2: or SEC Championship or do we hold back and say, well,

852
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: will either be in a New Year six game on

853
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 2: the what is it New Year's Eve weekend? Or we

854
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: could be at a home game December twentieth and kind

855
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 2: of hold back less less fight tickets.

856
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 3: Like, I think it's a good point.

857
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 2: I mean, do you wonder how many fans are going

858
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 2: to show up because it's a disadvantage for Texas and

859
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 2: Oregon in those games.

860
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:37,520
Speaker 1: Would Oregon, let's say they lose a tight game like

861
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,280
Speaker 1: Penn State game winning field goal or whatever wins twenty

862
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: to nineteen, Oregon would be the five seed, right, they'd

863
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: be the highest rated non conference champion, and they would

864
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: host a game where they would be I would imagine

865
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: ten point favorite against an Arizona State against a Boise like,

866
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: it'd be Big ten, might even be feel might be

867
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 1: like thirteen. They Boise play them well early this season,

868
00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,280
Speaker 1: which I My one issue with this is I understand

869
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: these conferences are so big. I mean, how many teams

870
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: are in the Big Ten, like eighteen. It's a ton

871
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,839
Speaker 1: of teams, and eventually Notre Dame will be in there

872
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,040
Speaker 1: and they'll add another Like these conferences are essentially the

873
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:21,279
Speaker 1: AFC in the NFC. I don't really like rematches in

874
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 1: the conference championship. That was cool to me about you

875
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: know the PAC twelve, the North in the South, or

876
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: the divisions in the in the Big Ten though a

877
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 1: little unfair because it was Michigan, Ohio State and Penn

878
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 1: State on one side.

879
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,399
Speaker 3: CC divisions last year too.

880
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, it has been at forever and once Kirby got

881
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 1: there and Florida and Tennessee were down. It was just

882
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: like him every year while LSU Bama and like Ole

883
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 1: Miss and text A and m battled it out. But

884
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 1: I like, I'm glad Ohio. I didn't want to watch

885
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: Oregon Ohio State again, right, So this is a cool

886
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 1: matchup that we get as a one off scenario, like

887
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 1: Texas and Georgia. Like I've already seen that game now,

888
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing that again in a playoff game.

889
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: But we could potentially get these games if it had

890
00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: been Ohio State and Oregon and Texas and Georgia three times.

891
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: It's basically like the NFL. It's like Green Bay and

892
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,719
Speaker 1: the Lions. I played you twice in the regular season.

893
00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,919
Speaker 1: I play again in the playoffs. That's a little much

894
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: for me.

895
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: I want to talk about. There's so much more to

896
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: talk about in college football.

897
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: We're recording this before the rankings and bracket comes out,

898
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 2: and I got a list of bubble teams. We texted

899
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 2: back and forth Saturday night about which teams are locks

900
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: to get it in. I think we can both agree

901
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 2: Oregon Texas. Let me pull it up real quick. Actually, Oregon, Texas,

902
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: Penn State, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Georgia, Tennessee, Indiana A

903
00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 2: teams all locks to get in, and then you've got

904
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: the ACC Champ, which could be either SMU or Clemson.

905
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 2: Big twelve Champ which could be Arizona State or Iowa State,

906
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 2: and the most likely the Mountain West Champ Boise State

907
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 2: or UNOD which if SMU beats Clemson and leads up

908
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 2: one spot. If Clemson beats SMU, then you get into

909
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 2: this which I ask you. Old teams right now ASUMU

910
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: eleven and two, Alabama nine and three, Ole Miss nine

911
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:10,120
Speaker 2: and three, South Carolina nine and three, Miami ten and two.

912
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: Who gets in that last spot? Right now?

913
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:17,000
Speaker 2: DraftKings favorite is Alabama, So I ask you who gets

914
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 2: in Miami's out.

915
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 1: I think most people that cover and watch college football

916
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 1: agree that South Carolina is playing the best. I mean,

917
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: if Clemson were to beat SMU, South Carolina just beat them,

918
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,920
Speaker 1: I'd have no issue. Now, they're kind of like branding.

919
00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: This is ultimately a TV product. So when you see

920
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: that Alabama has gone from like a plus two hundred

921
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: to get into now minus two hundred, the brand kind

922
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,279
Speaker 1: of matters and say what you want, like their coach

923
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: last year was in the Final four and won a

924
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,879
Speaker 1: playoff game. So and Jalen Milroe went toe to toe

925
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: with Michigan. I'm not gonna get caught up like I'm

926
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: not gonna go Jay Billis on the first four teams

927
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: out freaking out. Just don't care because I think all

928
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: these two teams all you know, the three teams you listed.

929
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: This is the other thing with these big conferences and

930
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: adding all these teams, They're not all playing the same schedule.

931
00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: So that's why these records. It's like Indiana's record is

932
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: not the same as Penn State or Ohio State's record

933
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:22,560
Speaker 1: is not the same as like Georgia or Alabama, depending

934
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:28,040
Speaker 1: on who you play on it given year, and one

935
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: thing I would change and I get they probably did

936
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:33,760
Speaker 1: this so they didn't get sued by the non Power

937
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,919
Speaker 1: five programs. They had to throw the bone and listen,

938
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,200
Speaker 1: I got my start in football at Prison State, so

939
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: I understand the non Power programs. I don't think you

940
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: should get an automatic bid, right, So if Boise wins,

941
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 1: no issue there. They went toe to toe with Oregon,

942
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 1: they got second best player in the country and genty,

943
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: No one's gonna have a problem with that, but like,

944
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: what if they lose, which they usually could, UNLV is

945
00:45:56,080 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: pretty good. Should UNLV just automatically get a spot because

946
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: they have to give a spot to one of those

947
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: When you say it, it's probably between who's even another option? Tulane, Yeah, Tulane,

948
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: but they just lost to Memphis last week, so you

949
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: would say the ranking they're seventeen. Why do these teams

950
00:46:15,040 --> 00:46:17,760
Speaker 1: have to get a spot? That's that would be my issue.

951
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,919
Speaker 1: If I'm like South Carolina, Ole, Misster, Alabama, like how

952
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 1: are we all equals? And that's the thing if you're

953
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: in the NFL or not, well, we all agree the

954
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,760
Speaker 1: power for conferences are harder. And then even within those,

955
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: like the Big twelve is easier than the SEC or

956
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: even the Big ten if you have to play Oregon,

957
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: Ohio State or Penn State. So I that kind of

958
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: throws everything off because I think it would be easier.

959
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: You just be like South Carolina Alabama. Let them be in, right,

960
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,799
Speaker 1: But I think when Boise, assuming they win, which I

961
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 1: would not assume that you know, Barry Otem that they're

962
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: pretty good at U ANDOV, So let's just say they

963
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: lose and all of a sudden, like UNOV just gets

964
00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: to go to the playoff. That seems kind of crazy

965
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: to me. Yeah, anyone, which is very possible, Which is

966
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: very possible.

967
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, which would which would benefit the Big twelve because

968
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:07,960
Speaker 2: I think they would get in as a top four

969
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:11,280
Speaker 2: seed or potentially the ACC two and UNLV would definitely

970
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 2: be the twelve seed.

971
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:14,480
Speaker 1: I think the thing in the Mountain West though, Boise

972
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 1: hosts the game, so that's which I do like, right, Yeah,

973
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,279
Speaker 1: if it was at a legal new stadium, man, that

974
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 1: would be a disadvantage for them.

975
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 2: But you talked about, you know, comparing conferences, and there's

976
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 2: a bunch of coaches tweeting about I saw Chris Clemben

977
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: saying how they play nine league games versus the SEC

978
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,600
Speaker 2: plays eight, and Nick Saban going on and saying, well,

979
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:37,920
Speaker 2: the committee should say if ole Miss played in the

980
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 2: Big twelve, what would the record be? All these comments

981
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 2: back and forth between you know, who's conference's best. We

982
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: all know SECS one and Big ten two, and the

983
00:47:45,840 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 2: Big twelve feet a little disrespected. So I asked you,

984
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: how can they fix the constant comparison of conferences? Is

985
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: it you take away SEC playing Mercer in November and

986
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 2: inserting a non conference game and with either the Big

987
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 2: Ten or the Big twelve. Oh, there's non conference instead

988
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 2: of having in the beginning of the season, you kind

989
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: of have in the middle or the end of the season. Like,

990
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,480
Speaker 2: how does this change because or are we just gonna

991
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,759
Speaker 2: have to deal with the coaches just bitching about which

992
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: conference is better and which conference is getting disrespected?

993
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 1: Well, you have to have universal rules. The reason the

994
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 1: NFL works well, not every team at the end of

995
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,640
Speaker 1: the year, like the Lions schedule and the Eagles schedule

996
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: are not the same, but every single year we played

997
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: the same amount of conference games, division games and teams

998
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: from other conference and it rotates, so it's it's over time,

999
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: it equals out. And don't I never get to play

1000
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: a UFL team, so you have to get away. And

1001
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: this is where like your team Army, Navy, any independence

1002
00:48:46,560 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: like props to BYU you got to join one of

1003
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:53,000
Speaker 1: the conferences and then you basically play on a rotating basis.

1004
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: Let's just pick eight games. You play eight conference games

1005
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 1: or nine if you want, and then the other game

1006
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: teams are rotated through the other conferences. So this year

1007
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,080
Speaker 1: we play maybe two Big twelve teams and an ACC

1008
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 1: team and then it flips two ACC teams and an

1009
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,840
Speaker 1: SEC team, you know, and it just rotates whatever. So

1010
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:15,719
Speaker 1: everyone over time is playing. Now. Obviously, on a given year,

1011
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 1: a couple of the teams that you play might be down,

1012
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: other teams might be whatever. But that's part of football, right.

1013
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,800
Speaker 1: If you got the Bengals this year, it was easier

1014
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: to get the Bengals and previous years, but you can't

1015
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 1: have or maybe you get one maybe nine conference games.

1016
00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:35,240
Speaker 1: You have to do a rotating other power for conferences,

1017
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: and then you get one D one program like a

1018
00:49:38,480 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 1: San Diego State, a Fresno State, a Boise State two

1019
00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,879
Speaker 1: lane whoever. But you no more D one double a's

1020
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 1: and I'm a D one double A guy, you're a

1021
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: D one double A. There is a dramatic difference. I

1022
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:54,440
Speaker 1: went one day, i was at cal Poly. Two weeks later,

1023
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: I'm at Freensdon State practice, and it was like, this

1024
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,359
Speaker 1: is crazy. And cal Paly at the time we were

1025
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,960
Speaker 1: a playoff D one double A team and the level

1026
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: is not even comparable. So and then we all know

1027
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,719
Speaker 1: the level at Boise top to bottom. Like if you

1028
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: put Boise in the Big twelve this year, do they

1029
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,479
Speaker 1: win it? Probably not do they probably have an extra

1030
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: loss or two because it's just you're just playing better

1031
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: players on a weekly basis. I don't blame Alabama or

1032
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: you know, was Alabama played Mercer or you know, and

1033
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:29,440
Speaker 1: they've been doing that forever. And I think Saban would say, well, twofold,

1034
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: our side of the conference forever was harder. We had

1035
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: ole miss Mississippi State for a long time with Dan Mullen,

1036
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 1: was good with Dak Prescott A and M's had moments

1037
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: with Johnny Manziel to Jimbo to now Elco obviously LSU.

1038
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 1: So it's like our Arkansas like it's just it's hard.

1039
00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:49,240
Speaker 1: Are our conference games on our side of the bracket

1040
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: and we're always play a tough game week one or

1041
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:58,320
Speaker 1: week two. But like you can't have them playing Mercer,

1042
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: it can't happen. But there has to be like Notre

1043
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Dame camping independent, Like everyone has to be in a

1044
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: conference and they all work together universally, and I think

1045
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:12,040
Speaker 1: that's where inevitably we're headed. And then I think it

1046
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:18,400
Speaker 1: makes it easier on on the playoff situation, like we

1047
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,360
Speaker 1: don't have this issue in the NFL. Right, your records,

1048
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,319
Speaker 1: your record, everyone's record is the same, Like my nine

1049
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: and three ten and ten and two is better than

1050
00:51:26,320 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: nine and three. But now we're like, well, Miami's tended two,

1051
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: but it's hittier nine and three. If this is the NFL,

1052
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,400
Speaker 1: Miami would just make the playoffs and Alabama and Ole

1053
00:51:35,440 --> 00:51:39,040
Speaker 1: Miss would not. Right, nine and three.

1054
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, when was the last time in the NFL they

1055
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: talked about strength as schedule in terms of teams making

1056
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 2: in It's it's no strength to schedule.

1057
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:46,959
Speaker 3: Every game in the NFL is tough to play.

1058
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,719
Speaker 1: Like the only curve ball is when a division really

1059
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: sucks and a team's like eight to nine, I win

1060
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 1: the division, which is the one thing people bitch and

1061
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: moan about, And I'd have no problem. If you're an

1062
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: under five hundred division winner, you just get ranked with

1063
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: the rest. You might miss the playoffs. I would have

1064
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: no problem. I don't know if they'd ever do that,

1065
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't have any That's never gonna be an

1066
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 1: issue in college football. But it's gonna be like my

1067
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,600
Speaker 1: nine and three is better than your ten and two,

1068
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: or my ten and two is better than you're eleven

1069
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: in one. I mean that's happening this year, Like is

1070
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: Ole miss South Carolina and Alabama better in Indiana. I

1071
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 1: think we all agree if you put them on neutral field,

1072
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: people would bet if you made any of those three

1073
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 1: SEC teams underdogs, the money would flow in on those

1074
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: teams against Indiana.

1075
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 3: Something that kind of was an under RATIONE I mean.

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00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Do you agree now? And I understand Montana, cal Poly, whoever.

1077
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,879
Speaker 1: It's a big deal to play in Iowa, to play

1078
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: an Oregon, to play a Stanford, you get paid. But

1079
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 1: I think the world we're living in now with this

1080
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: that has to end, which is sad because I think

1081
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: it would be hard for those programs. That million dollar

1082
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 1: check when Montana plays Oregon or cal Poly plays Stanford

1083
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 1: or UCLA is a pretty big deal for the athletic program.

1084
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: But like it's twenty twenty five, it's not twenty ten anymore,

1085
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: So we got to change.

1086
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 2: I feel like you could do that week one or

1087
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 2: maybe once in a while, or maybe every other year

1088
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 2: you play FCS opponent. Like I remember when I was

1089
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 2: at Montana, we played Oregon in twenty nineteen and then

1090
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 2: we played Washington in twenty twenty two, so it was

1091
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 2: kind of like a spread schedule thing. But I feel

1092
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: like Mercer's always playing an FCS team or Ken State

1093
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 2: from the MAC. They're playing like four or five Power

1094
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 2: four teams in their first three weeks just to make

1095
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:29,840
Speaker 2: more money for their program.

1096
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: But I think Saban, you know, would say, why do

1097
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: you care if we played Mercer week eleven or week one?

1098
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: What the hell's the difference? Yeah? Yeah, And I'd say, well,

1099
00:53:39,920 --> 00:53:41,440
Speaker 1: I know why you're doing it, because you're trying to

1100
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: basically give your guys a bye week game where they

1101
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: get a little sweat on that you know as a

1102
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 1: lock win into Auburn, into the SEC championship game, into

1103
00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:51,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs where you don't want to do that week too,

1104
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: because it doesn't rely too much for you, right because

1105
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,640
Speaker 1: the next week you might have a real opponent. Next

1106
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,320
Speaker 1: week you got Arkansas. It's all of a sudden, you

1107
00:53:58,440 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: just fucking cruise through and you don't you don't need

1108
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,800
Speaker 1: the energy. So I yeah, I mean, I mean a

1109
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,919
Speaker 1: lot of these programs. Hell, when I was at Fresno State,

1110
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: we would open up against like three straight Wisconsin, Oregon, UCLA,

1111
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 1: and that that money that you would get paid to

1112
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: go play those games, I mean probably paid for half

1113
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,000
Speaker 1: your programs. Right your page to softball, baseball, back, you know,

1114
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: women's basketball, all these sports. I just think that you

1115
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: can see the light at the end of the tunnel

1116
00:54:30,640 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: that is going to end. It is gonna get morphed

1117
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,359
Speaker 1: into why are we spreading our money around to these

1118
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 1: other people than aren't our equals where we can all

1119
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: just consolidate it together, like Notre Dame. You just play

1120
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State's, Penn State's, Iowa was Nebraska. You just stay

1121
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 1: in that region South. This is why Clemson, Florida State

1122
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,480
Speaker 1: and these teams are gonna eventually migrate to the se

1123
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 1: You just keep it all and then we all go

1124
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 1: to the playoff together and maybe rotate throughout the season

1125
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: playing each other or one game or two games for

1126
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,560
Speaker 1: these non conference that included the Big Twelve and the

1127
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 1: Big twelve, acc SEC and Big Ten, and just keep

1128
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 1: all the money together.

1129
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 2: Something that kind of went underrated last week Gus Malazon

1130
00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 2: leaving the UCF as a head coach to be the

1131
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: offensive coordinator at for the State. We saw this last

1132
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: year with Chim Kelly leaving UCLA to go be the

1133
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 2: O Seattle Ohio State. Both team, both programs UCF UCLA

1134
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,560
Speaker 2: bad seasons kind of on the downhill? Is this moved

1135
00:55:37,560 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 2: by Gus Malason? Like we're we gonna see more of

1136
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 2: this because of maybe just a new age of college

1137
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:44,160
Speaker 2: football where these older coaches are kind of, you know,

1138
00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 2: sitting in the tea leaves and saying, hey, my time's done.

1139
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 3: I want to be an OC, not do with the nil.

1140
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:50,640
Speaker 2: Like what do you make of a guy who was

1141
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,279
Speaker 2: a head coach at the university going on and being

1142
00:55:53,320 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 2: the OC got a power for school?

1143
00:55:55,400 --> 00:55:57,839
Speaker 1: I do think the money's changed. I didn't. I haven't

1144
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: seen this contract, but I would guess minimum one and

1145
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: a half million, maybe two million dollars a year. I mean,

1146
00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly makes it a large amount of money to

1147
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 1: be the offensive coordinator at Ohio State. Remember Dion, the

1148
00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: guy's not there anymore because Sherman's offensive coordinator when he

1149
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,040
Speaker 1: got hired at Colorado. I think Kent State's coach became

1150
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: his offensive coordinator. So it's like, how do you win

1151
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: at these programs? That's the thing. Like, I think there's

1152
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:26,560
Speaker 1: a big difference of being at Montana or North Dakota

1153
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: State or South Dakota State, where you can win you

1154
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: got a specific kind of niche. But then there's that

1155
00:56:31,239 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 1: middle ground of like what is Boise the next five years?

1156
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 1: Once Gent's like they're not getting a gent again. They

1157
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,439
Speaker 1: were lucky to keep him this year, So you can't

1158
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,879
Speaker 1: keep players that The turnover is the moment you get

1159
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: multiple NFL guys that are freshman or sophomores. They just

1160
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 1: leave and it's like, well, I can get a three

1161
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 1: year contract for maybe take a little haircut. Maybe I'm

1162
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:55,480
Speaker 1: making three million dollars, I get paid one point eight

1163
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 1: and I just get to coach football now. I also think,

1164
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: you know, he's fifty nine years old. Whens the last

1165
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,120
Speaker 1: time Gus was viewed? Is this a little chip kelly ish?

1166
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: You know Gus was sweet a decade ago. Well it's

1167
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Is he still now? Florida State's pretty desperate.

1168
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 1: You know, who's going to be their quarterback? Is their

1169
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,640
Speaker 1: offense going to be much more of the clap and

1170
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 1: the you know, because Norvelle is an offensive guy, right,

1171
00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: that's where he kind of cut his teeth of being

1172
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: like an offensive play caller. And my buddy Derek Ray,

1173
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:33,240
Speaker 1: who I had on the podcast this offseason, who's the

1174
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,280
Speaker 1: GM somehow? You know I have him on I jinx

1175
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:39,040
Speaker 1: the program and they barely win a game. I remember

1176
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:40,600
Speaker 1: him telling me he's like, I think Norvel is one

1177
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 1: of the best play callers I've ever been around, and

1178
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: he spent a lot of time with Jonathan Smith at

1179
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: Oregon State. Like, so you're hiring gus to basically take

1180
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 1: that off your plate. Maybe he thinks he needs to

1181
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: run it. I think these type moves are when you

1182
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: get desperate, and I think you look back at Ryan Day,

1183
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: it's like he kind of felt some heat last year

1184
00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 1: after not beating Michigan. But like, I hired Norvelle higher

1185
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 1: Ryan d I want that guy to call plays. I

1186
00:58:03,480 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: said this about Sark, who I've been critical on over

1187
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 1: the years. I do respect that like his program, he

1188
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:11,840
Speaker 1: is the play caller. So he's a college version of

1189
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: like Lafleur, Kyle or McVeigh. Like, yeah, I'm the boss,

1190
00:58:14,920 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: but I also call the offense. That's why I got

1191
00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: the job. I just don't like younger coaches, like being

1192
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: a CEO. Most CEOs in Fortune five hundred are I

1193
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,919
Speaker 1: would imagine the average age is like over fifty five

1194
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 1: sixty years old. I don't want my coach in this

1195
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 1: fortiesh being the CEO like I want you to call

1196
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: plays and be the leader. So I don't know. I mean,

1197
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: I that to me is a little weird, and I

1198
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:46,919
Speaker 1: think that's you get pressure from boosters who maybe there's

1199
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,280
Speaker 1: a booster that's tight with Gus that like forces is

1200
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 1: on your hand, like there are a lot of cooks

1201
00:58:51,440 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: in the kitchen with these college programs of people cutting

1202
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:54,000
Speaker 1: the checks.

1203
00:58:55,800 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 2: What'd you make of the flag planting this weekend and

1204
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 2: every weekend? Because for me, I mean as a football fan,

1205
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 2: I loved it. I'm obviously you don't call for all

1206
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 2: the brawl at the end of the Ohio State Michigan game,

1207
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 2: players getting pepper mazed, But I feel like at a

1208
00:59:10,320 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: time with a transfer portal, when there's so many guys moving,

1209
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 2: the fact that there's still hatred and rivalries today, I

1210
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 2: feel like as a football fan you got to be

1211
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 2: flirt about.

1212
00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:22,360
Speaker 3: But I think the flag planting thing, the similization of it.

1213
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:26,280
Speaker 2: Baker Mayfield started it, but I never saw that many

1214
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,160
Speaker 2: in one day, And of course the NCAA is probably

1215
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:30,760
Speaker 2: going to put something out there. But what were your

1216
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: thoughts about the whole flag planting saga this last weekend?

1217
00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: If I gave you ten thousand dollars today and took

1218
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 1: you to a field where there was turf mat of

1219
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: grass field, a turf field. Do you think you could

1220
00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: get the flag to stick in the turf? A try?

1221
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,400
Speaker 1: My artists, no tools, you just you your hands and

1222
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 1: the flag. I think it's impossible. No shot.

1223
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 2: The one the only one that did was Arizona State

1224
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 2: because they've got that spark, So he just shoved it

1225
00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: in the ground and it's stuck in there.

1226
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: But so what was it? It was North Carolina, n

1227
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 1: C State, Arizona. Arizona State obviously started the morning with

1228
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan. You know, in a day and age

1229
01:00:10,000 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: where nil and everyone's freaking out about people being mercenaries

1230
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,800
Speaker 1: in college, you do like to see people care. Now,

1231
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: it's basic human reaction if someone starts fucking with something

1232
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 1: that you view as yours, whether it's sports or not,

1233
01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,360
Speaker 1: it's you know, someone started doing that to your front yard.

1234
01:00:28,520 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 1: It's just a natural reaction. So of course you know

1235
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: they're going to push back. I also think though, like

1236
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:39,040
Speaker 1: Arizona wasn't a final score like forty nine to seven,

1237
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: you got destroyed.

1238
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 2: I feel like you have permission to do that if

1239
01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,320
Speaker 2: you beat a team forty nine to seven at their

1240
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 2: place in Baker, Like Nick Bosa was talking about it

1241
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 2: like up till last year, like it's something these guys

1242
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:55,920
Speaker 2: never forget that the flag when when people basically make

1243
01:00:56,040 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 2: fun of you on your home field where I think

1244
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,200
Speaker 2: in a lot of you know, all rivalry week, Like

1245
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 2: is this happening on a random game?

1246
01:01:02,960 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: Probably not, because guys don't care enough. So I like

1247
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 1: to see the passion. I'm I'm I'm for it. And

1248
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,760
Speaker 1: clearly they're gonna ban it and find guys and you know,

1249
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 1: suspend guys, So it'll probably never happen again. But I

1250
01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 1: really enjoy watching brawls at the fifty yard line. You

1251
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 1: have no clue what's going on. It's hard to even

1252
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:25,240
Speaker 1: figure out. I give Fox credit. I feel like a

1253
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: lot of times they change the channel or they go

1254
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 1: back to the studio, they just kind of kept it

1255
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: there and they just watched it. You're like, this is nuts,

1256
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:34,720
Speaker 1: And it was going on for a little while.

1257
01:01:35,320 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was looking the city. I'm like, which players

1258
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:39,160
Speaker 2: are gonna fight for Ohio State? Like are they gonna

1259
01:01:39,160 --> 01:01:41,640
Speaker 2: suspend these guys for throwing punches? Are they gonna kind

1260
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: of let it go back and forth, but I.

1261
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,720
Speaker 1: Should get ninety one that slammed a dude on Ohio

1262
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:50,360
Speaker 1: stategying around, slammed him. That's when the brawl really got

1263
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,240
Speaker 1: out of it. Like then it kind of got crazy.

1264
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was That was awesome. My last question for you.

1265
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: A great podcast today. Obviously a bunch of college football stuff.

1266
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: It's being talked about because of the forty four forty

1267
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 2: two Georgia win over Georgia Tech, the overtime rules, the

1268
01:02:05,720 --> 01:02:09,320
Speaker 2: back and forth, two point conversion, sudden death after second overtime.

1269
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 2: Are you a favorite of this because I know there's

1270
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 2: a lot of complaining about how they should change it up,

1271
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 2: maybe like first and goal from the ten or even

1272
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 2: back them up. I know Scott Van Pelt said back

1273
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:19,720
Speaker 2: them up to the fifty and make him just go

1274
01:02:19,920 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 2: forward from there.

1275
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: Are you?

1276
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 2: Are you not liking the overtime rules after that being

1277
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,240
Speaker 2: eight over times you kind of just like, I don't care,

1278
01:02:27,800 --> 01:02:28,600
Speaker 2: Just play football.

1279
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 3: I'll kind of see who gets creative.

1280
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not bothered by quirky stuff. You know in baseball,

1281
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 1: put the runner on second in the tenth inning during

1282
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 1: the regular season all four no one wants to watch

1283
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: a game, go to seventeen innings. I think you see

1284
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Speaker 1: in hockey forever. I think they used to have ties.

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01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: Now they have shootouts, you know, to end regular season games.

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Speaker 1: Don't quote me on that, not a huge hockey guy,

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01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure that they've instituted that lately over

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Speaker 1: the last I don't know, five years. Is there a

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Speaker 1: right way to do this, like it right in the

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01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: NFL that both teams get a chance if you score

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01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 1: a touchdown in the playoffs but not in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: You know. Part of what makes it kind of cool

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01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: is like watching that game, you're like, are they exhausted,

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01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: and then you realize, well, after a while, they're just

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: having one play on one playoff, so you kind of

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01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: get a legit break. Even the started at the twenty

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Speaker 1: five yard line, if they get a couple first downs

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01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: and they get to third down, like you could have

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Speaker 1: an extra what eight nine plays? So if you had

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01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: a couple back to back overtimes all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, or you know, overtime one, overtime two, that

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01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:34,880
Speaker 1: could add up. Let's just say to like twelve thirteen

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01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 1: plays where once I get to the third overtime, it's

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01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:42,560
Speaker 1: it's basically five plays from overtime three to eight, So

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01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,560
Speaker 1: I felt like they were pretty rested on each play,

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01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,320
Speaker 1: which I'm I'm I'm cool. It doesn't bother me like

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01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: it does, you know, Scott freaking out. It feels like

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01:03:51,600 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 1: a lot of college football people think, like this is

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 1: not football. You hear that from everybody. Yeah, I agree,

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Speaker 1: But like, is starting at the twenty five yard line?

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01:04:00,840 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: Like where'd they pick that? That's the red zones technically

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01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,120
Speaker 1: the twenty you know, so it's just halfway between the

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01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: fifty and the goal line, Like how do they determine that?

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01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 1: Flip a coin? Like, yeah, it's kind of a good idea.

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01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 1: That's you could argue that's stupid. How come on the

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01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: second overtime you just randomly have to go for two

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01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,760
Speaker 1: because that's part of it, right, First overtime, do whatever

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01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: you want, kickfield goal. Second overtime, you score, you have

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01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: to go for two. Third, it's just two point conversions.

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01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,440
Speaker 1: Like you could argue it's stupid at the second if

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01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: you don't like just the two point. It's all let's

1322
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,320
Speaker 1: just let's just figure out who can win the game.

1323
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 1: And there's if you have sixty minutes to win the

1324
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: game far and square, and if you can't, Yeah, sometimes

1325
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:45,640
Speaker 1: quirky stuff happens. You see the there's in baseball, they

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01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 1: might just add a golden at bat or like at

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01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 1: any point during the game they're talking about this. In

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:53,280
Speaker 1: Major League Baseball, you can just pick, like I want

1329
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,720
Speaker 1: one Soto to hit and the seventh inning bases loaded,

1330
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: even though it's like my eighth hitter, I get a

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01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,640
Speaker 1: golden at bat. The purests are gonna hate it. I

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01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 1: can already tell. I see him on social media like

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01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: this is bs, this is not the sport. My reactions

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01:05:06,760 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: to that type stuff as I get older, I kind

1335
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: of like it. Why not. I think it's entertainment. This

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01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: entertainment that was I think extremely entertaining. Georgia Georgia Tech

1337
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,680
Speaker 1: that that ending. If they were just playing normal football,

1338
01:05:20,280 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: you know, like I kick off, you kick off, we

1339
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: kick field goals, not even scoring touchdowns, it just goes

1340
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 1: to over, it just keeps going, it would not have

1341
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: been as entertaining. It just would not have I feel like,

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01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: it's like it's funny because as a play caller, I mean,

1343
01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 1: you've only got maybe a couple maybe four or five

1344
01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:37,880
Speaker 1: two point plays and then it comes down to that

1345
01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,800
Speaker 1: eighth overtime. It's like you're just drawing up something like, hey,

1346
01:05:40,880 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 1: let's just draw up whatever we have in the bag.

1347
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,560
Speaker 1: I think it's fun to see the creativity on both

1348
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: sides then just to see who wants it more sudden

1349
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 1: death one play, one play like Georgia Tech, Georgia got stopped.

1350
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:54,040
Speaker 2: Georgia Tech had the ball. He was like, oh my gosh,

1351
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:56,120
Speaker 2: it's Georgia gonna lose. And then they stop them, and

1352
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:57,240
Speaker 2: then it goes back and forth.

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01:05:57,360 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 3: So I think you're right. I think there's no real

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01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm not really panicking.

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Speaker 1: I refuse to run the ball. You're at like the

1356
01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:06,439
Speaker 1: you're not at the eight yard line. Just how George

1357
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,439
Speaker 1: ended up winning. They ran a run play. They would

1358
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: not run the ball both teams. Is like they're running

1359
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: their quarterback left and right. It's like, what are we doing?

1360
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: Run a run play? Just call an off tackle run.

1361
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:21,400
Speaker 1: You just got a game whatever. Five feet it's not

1362
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,200
Speaker 1: that far. But they were only calling pass plays roll

1363
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:29,960
Speaker 1: out one where it's like, guys, it's in the it's

1364
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 1: in the end zone. So that feel's not that deep.

1365
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: The moment they bite when you start going right there's

1366
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:37,479
Speaker 1: no room. You gotta hope you stop, and then guys

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01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: cut back. It was the same thing. It felt like

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01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,919
Speaker 1: over and over where it's like just run the ball.

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01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 1: That's where I felt Kirby kind of drew the long.

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01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:47,440
Speaker 1: I can imagine he got on, had to like call

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01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:49,920
Speaker 1: run play here in the eighth. He didn't even know.

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01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: At the end, he's like, what was that like nine overtimes?

1373
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: They're like, no, it's eight. Because you're you're so in it.

1374
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: Kirby is. Guy's a maniac. I mean he's on he's

1375
01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: halfway between the huddle in the sideline. I mean he

1376
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: is on the field the entire overtime. I'm not even

1377
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: talking about him running out and calling time out every time,

1378
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 1: which I don't play that. Why would you not? But

1379
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:13,240
Speaker 1: he he literally watched the game from it felt like

1380
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 1: I don't know the thirty or the thirty yard line

1381
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: where it says three zero. He just stands there. I mean,

1382
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 1: and they called a sideline whatever in fraction on them.

1383
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: They got penal lives. I don't even think he moved.

1384
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: They tried to bring him back. He just stood there.

1385
01:07:27,160 --> 01:07:30,080
Speaker 1: Guy's a fucking lunatic, which I like, I mean I'm

1386
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 1: pro Kirby being a lunatic.

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Speaker 2: You imagine being the ref, the main ref saying hey,

1388
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,520
Speaker 2: can you can you push Kirby to the side he's

1389
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Speaker 2: on the field.

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01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,240
Speaker 3: I'd be like, oh, I don't think. I don't think

1391
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna tell him. I don't think I'm gonna do that.

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Speaker 1: Good try there, Well, Jackson, I uh, how's how's the

1393
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:48,360
Speaker 1: new place? You got any girlfriends down there? And in Asale?

1394
01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:49,480
Speaker 3: Yet no girlfriends?

1395
01:07:49,560 --> 01:07:49,760
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1396
01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 2: But when I did pull up though, that's when I knew, Like,

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01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 2: that's what I knew when God told me that I

1398
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:55,760
Speaker 2: was supposed to be here. Was when I rolled in

1399
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 2: first move trying to get all this stuff here, saw

1400
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:00,800
Speaker 2: three smoke and blonde is on my way up here, I.

1401
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: Said, yep, this is where I'm supposed to be.

1402
01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 1: Well, it's an equivalent of like, you know, when someone

1403
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 1: takes like the Florida job or the USC job. It's

1404
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: in prime recruiting spot, you know, southern California or Miami

1405
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: Dade County or wherever. I would say old town Scottsdale

1406
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 1: is uh. I just I'd go for walks a lot

1407
01:08:17,080 --> 01:08:18,559
Speaker 1: if I were you. If I don't have any much

1408
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: going on I would just I would just go for walks.

1409
01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:24,640
Speaker 1: Maria called that the circle of Death, which is, you know,

1410
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 1: the clubs and stuff down there in that in that area.

1411
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a big club guy, but you can find

1412
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: whatever you're looking for down there. Bro. So I updated, Yeah,

1413
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,880
Speaker 1: I definitely will keep me updated. Okay, Jackson, I will

1414
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: see you next week when we've got a good idea

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01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:45,679
Speaker 1: what's going on the volume