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Speaker 1: Welcome back the Car Doctor at five zero nine zero,

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Speaker 1: podcasting at car doctor show dot com. Connie in Washington

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Speaker 1: State a two thousand three Volkswagen Jeddasm and started for

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Speaker 1: I help? Well? Thank you, Ron. I've been through the

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Speaker 1: I ended up buying two brand new batteries for that

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00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 1: car because the battery was always dying because the radiator

427
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,920
Speaker 1: to radiator fans would run for ten minutes exactly after

428
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,199
Speaker 1: the engine was turned off. Okay, let me ask you

429
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: this question, Connie. You haven't been driving the car for

430
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,879
Speaker 1: a year, correct, How have you been getting around? I

431
00:22:55,920 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: have another vehicle? Okay, how bad do you need this one?

432
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 1: I'm being I'm I'm being I'm being Devil's advocate here

433
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,280
Speaker 1: because it sounds like this thing has been kind of

434
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: picked apart, and I'm trying to do this serious. You know,

435
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: I could pick on it and talk. We could talk

436
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: about Volkswagens and what it means, and I don't want

437
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,800
Speaker 1: to do that. Um. I want to be serious here

438
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,040
Speaker 1: because I think I think you're really depending on this car.

439
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,440
Speaker 1: Because here's my concern. The car sat for a length

440
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:28,320
Speaker 1: of time. What's what's rusted? What has degradated further that

441
00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 1: you don't know about while the car is sitting. What

442
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,639
Speaker 1: do the brakes look like, what are the fluids like,

443
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,600
Speaker 1: what are all the rubber components like? And and and

444
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 1: when does that become an issue? And when does that

445
00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,240
Speaker 1: effect reliability? Because the bottom line comes back to you're

446
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:44,440
Speaker 1: gonna start to put some money in this car to

447
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:48,080
Speaker 1: repair it, get it up on the road. And I've

448
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:50,440
Speaker 1: whether we were standing at the counter at the shop

449
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,119
Speaker 1: or whether we're talking here on air, I'm going to

450
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,159
Speaker 1: tell you the same thing. I've got to know that

451
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,320
Speaker 1: I did my best to give you a safe, reliable

452
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 1: car so you're safe on the road. And and ultimately

453
00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 1: I've got to get you to think about, you know,

454
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: how far are you willing to go financially and how

455
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: far are you willing to go for the emotional stress

456
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 1: of it? You know, where's that line? Where does where?

457
00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: Does Connie say enough is enough? You know? Because if

458
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 1: your question to me it's can the car be fixed?

459
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: My answer is yes, it just takes dedication and checkbook.

460
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:28,160
Speaker 1: You know. It's if they're still bubbles in the fuel line,

461
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 1: I'd have to say where if it's on the output

462
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: side of the pump. I'm only worried about that per

463
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 1: se if it's affecting performance. When did the car not start?

464
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 1: Because I see in your notes that the car no

465
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 1: longer runs. When when did that come into the picture? Well,

466
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: that was a year ago. It stopped. It stopped running.

467
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean we couldn't start it, okay with even with

468
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:54,080
Speaker 1: a brand new battery, and it we can't start it. Well,

469
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 1: but you know you can't start it that it doesn't

470
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:00,439
Speaker 1: crank over or it cranks, but it doesn't run. Do

471
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 1: you know the differences? But it doesn't start, okay. Did

472
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: it crank with the old battery? No, all right, so

473
00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,919
Speaker 1: you put it and even when the old battery was

474
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: fully fully charged. Well wait a minute, wait, I said

475
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:17,040
Speaker 1: that wrong. It cranked, but it didn't start, right, So

476
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: what led me to take out the starter in the

477
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 1: battery and have them both checked. Okay, but if if

478
00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: it cranks, you know, if it cranks, then it's not

479
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: the starter or the battery. It's neither one. All right,

480
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,919
Speaker 1: do you do you mow the lawn? Connie? Do you

481
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 1: do you mow the lawn? Do you do you do

482
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 1: you use a snow thrower? Okay? You ever go out

483
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: to the end, you go out to start them? Right?

484
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,159
Speaker 1: You have to start them. You gotta either what you

485
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: gotta do you have electric starter? Do you have a

486
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: pull start? Okay? Pull start? Good girl? So you know

487
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: you pull on that, you know starter court, that's the

488
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 1: starter in the battery right there. If you can crank it,

489
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: that's not it's not that your arm is broken, and

490
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: it's not that the ropes not work, and it just

491
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: doesn't catch if it doesn't start. So cars are like,

492
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter internal combustion engines and internal combustion engine

493
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: that car doesn't start. If you're pulling on the rope, baby,

494
00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 1: and it's cranking and it doesn't start, it's not the rope.

495
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 1: It's not that. It's not the centrifugal clutch. It's not

496
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: it's not any of that. It's either spark, fuel, or mechanical.

497
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 1: All right. So that being said, if this folkswagon doesn't start,

498
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: what's it missing. If it's got fuel pressure, does it

499
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: have injector pulse? If it's got injector pulse, does it

500
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,679
Speaker 1: have spark. If it doesn't have spark, that's why it

501
00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: doesn't run. If it's mechanical, maybe it broke a timing

502
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: belt when it cranks, Does it crank fast? Does it

503
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 1: sound funny in the way that it cranks different than

504
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:55,120
Speaker 1: the way it used to. Then we've got to start

505
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: to think in terms of did it either jump a tooth?

506
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 1: Maybe it did. I'm not saying it did or did,

507
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: but just something to think about. And after mechanical stuff,

508
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: let's just go look at basics. Let's go look at

509
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: fuel pressure, let's go look at fuel pulse, and let's

510
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 1: go look at spark, because hell, if it's got those things,

511
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,959
Speaker 1: it's got to run unless the catalytic converter melted down

512
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: and the exhaust is so restricted it's it's like a

513
00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: banana and the tailpipe in Beverly Hills, cop the car

514
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: just cuts off. But you know, let's let's just make

515
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:29,400
Speaker 1: sure let's see what it is. Um does that make sense? Oh?

516
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,199
Speaker 1: I have to tell you, Ron, I don't know a

517
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: whole lot about cars. No, I know that, and I'm

518
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:34,880
Speaker 1: trying to go easy for your sweetheart. I'm not trying

519
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 1: to overwhelm you. Um No, it's just a lot of that.

520
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: I just I really don't comprehend that. Really did not

521
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:46,640
Speaker 1: well do this? Thank you, Tony. I appreciate that Tony's

522
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: having some fun with Tony's having some fun with this. Connie,

523
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,719
Speaker 1: So do this? Does? Do you still have your mechanic?

524
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 1: You like your mechanic, You trust your mechanic. Always been

525
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: through so many mechanics and they don't last very long.

526
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 1: How come I have something that I like? You? Okay, Well,

527
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: once you find one that you like and tell him

528
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: to go to the website Car Doctor Show dot com.

529
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: This will be our too. This will be at three thirty.

530
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: This would be halfway through, and he could listen to

531
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: our whole conversation, you know, if he just wants my insight,

532
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 1: and I would tell him just treat it like basics.

533
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 1: If it doesn't start spark fueler mechanical, where's the loss?

534
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: And and then at least you'll have a diagnosis because

535
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 1: you really need forget all the things that the car did,

536
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: could do, had happened. Breaks, you know, alignment and everything else,

537
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 1: because I can tell and talking to you, you're you're

538
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:35,399
Speaker 1: you know what, You're a very nice person. You're just

539
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: a little confused car wise, and I'm just trying to

540
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: get you on the track that you need somebody to

541
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 1: spend you know, one or two hours. I don't think

542
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: this is gonna be a long diagnosis and come back

543
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: to you with some information. What is this car missing?

544
00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,600
Speaker 1: Why won't the lawnmowers start? Is the spark plug? Foul?

545
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: Doesn't have spark? Does it have gas in the tank?

546
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,400
Speaker 1: Where's the basic thing that it's missing? And then if

547
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: it gets into oh hey, Connie, it's something much more

548
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: than something obvious, it's very involved, then kinda's got to

549
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: the side. This fifteen year old Volkswagen. Do you want

550
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 1: to revive it? And you know, at that point, you know,

551
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 1: you can make a decision financially what's it worth because

552
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: the fact that it's been sitting for a length of

553
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,960
Speaker 1: time isn't good for it. The fact that it's got

554
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: so many other issues going on for it doesn't justify it.

555
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 1: I mean, here's a car that's probably worth it's not running.

556
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: It's worth five you know it's it's and and and

557
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: and if it was running. I'm just telling you what

558
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 1: I would pay for it. If it was running, I

559
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: might give you a fifteen hundred bucks for it. Maybe

560
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: it's not worth much more than that. It's it's fifteen

561
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: years old, it's got miles on it's kind of beat up.

562
00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 1: Um do that. Take it to your mechanic, have him

563
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: listen to it a little bit. As far as this

564
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 1: podcast and uh this radio show. Tell me can download

565
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,080
Speaker 1: the podcast and I would do some sort of a

566
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: formal diagnosis, get a better direction, and make a decision.

567
00:29:57,960 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: You'll feel better for it, and you don't have to

568
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,520
Speaker 1: look at it anymore. And if it's been sitting there

569
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: on insurance and license plates, you won't be paying for

570
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: registration and insurance policy that you're not using. And that's

571
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: an expense you have to think about. Eight five five

572
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: five six zero nine zero zero. The car Doctor is

573
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: coming back right after this Welcome back of the car Doctor. No.

574
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: I am here to work. That's what I love to

575
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: do all day, and work on cars at this radio

576
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 1: shows about that's what my job is about. Cover talk

577
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 1: to art in May Chevy and some hard start issues.

578
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: Are welcome to the car doctor, sir? How can I

579
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: help hi? Ron art form Mata one Ki. How you

580
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: doing good, sir? What's going on? Okay? I have the

581
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: truck from the Twilight Zone? All right, I love that.

582
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: I love that. Well, you know, I can't watch that

583
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: TV show. It kind of scares the Jesus out of me.

584
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 1: But that's you know, after I tell you that. Let's

585
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: say ahead, okay, three Chevy. You already mentioned it has

586
00:30:56,840 --> 00:31:01,640
Speaker 1: a five point seven fifty small luck it will run,

587
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, without the fuel pump relay. That doesn't scare me, okay.

588
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: And how I happened to find this, you know, I

589
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: was technically if I had spot and going back and forth,

590
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: and I pulled the relay see if I had any

591
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: the troll volts to it, and I had put some

592
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 1: gas in the t V I to see if we started,

593
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: and I for that, and I had taken the relay out,

594
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, checking it and it's starting to write up. Well,

595
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: I noticed now that I have to prime it to

596
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: get it to run. Okay, I can explain it. I

597
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,719
Speaker 1: can explain that. Yeah, okay, I can playing out too.

598
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 1: Go ahead, keep going, you want the rest, okay. So anyways, uh,

599
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 1: I took it down the road. It had power, Like

600
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,120
Speaker 1: I said, I said, yeah, truck, this my smoke flower

601
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: and do a lot of clong with it up here

602
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: in the wintertime. But I did take it down the

603
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: road and went up into high gear and it was fine.

604
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: So and I brought it back with the relay still

605
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 1: out of there. I tried starting it. It wouldn't start.

606
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 1: It would turn over good, snappy against right up. So

607
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: that's what I got. Okay. So the reason it starts

608
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: without the fuel pump relay in is because the GM

609
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 1: engineers and this was common. And I'll i'll you'll cringe

610
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: when I tell you the first car I saw this on.

611
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: The first car I saw this on was a Chevy Vega.

612
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 1: Shows you how long I've been fixing cars, and I

613
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 1: mean this goes way back. Basically, they've got an oil

614
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: pressure switch override in that vehicle, all right, So when

615
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: you build up enough cranking oil pressure and you close

616
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: the switch, you have the ability to power up the

617
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: fuel pump as well. If the relay should stop working.

618
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: It's a failsafe thing, all right, all right, So that's

619
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: that's that's part of what that's for. So that's why

620
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 1: it does that. What you're doing when you pour fuel

621
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: in the throttle body, you kind of just give it

622
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: enough to wet its whistle. It fires, It builds oil

623
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: pressure quick enough, it closes the contacts and the switch

624
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 1: that energizes the pump, and you're off to the races.

625
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: So the question we've got to have is why isn't

626
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: it Why isn't it um, you know, closing the relay

627
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: on its own, and and and and and starting the

628
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: truck and and and that's the real concern. So or

629
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what sit tight. I don't want to

630
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: relate on this lay pull over. Let me do this

631
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 1: legally for lack of a better way to put it.

632
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:22,800
Speaker 1: And when I come back, we'll have a couple of

633
00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 1: three minutes and I can give you some details. Make

634
00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: sure you got a pencil and paper. When I come back,

635
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you some specs. Eight zero zero run

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Speaker 1: a nating the car doctor coming back right after this

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Speaker 1: welcome back? Aren't name of the car doctor? We're talking

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Speaker 1: with Art up in Maine, aren't You're still there, sir? Okay,

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Speaker 1: so listen. Um, you know, we want to know why

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Speaker 1: isn't the fuel pump turning on? You turn that key on,

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Speaker 1: don't crank at that fuel pump. Relay should energize for

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Speaker 1: two seconds and run the pump. So you know, that's

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Speaker 1: just normal procedure. A lot of cars do that. Uh

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Speaker 1: you know you don't have a fuel pressure gage by chance,

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Speaker 1: do you. Well, there's a throttle body vehicle that's kind

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Speaker 1: of tough to hook, and there's yeah, there's yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: no there's no trader you'd actually have to take I

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Speaker 1: remember this. Now there's this, there's this adapter. They want

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Speaker 1: you to take the fuel filter out, which kind of

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Speaker 1: blows my mind. All Right, I always wondered about that.

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Speaker 1: They want you to take the fuel filter out to

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Speaker 1: check fuel pressure. But what if it's a hardcore problem

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Speaker 1: and you're doing extended testing, you're driving the truck around

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Speaker 1: for a week trying to get the fuel pump to

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Speaker 1: act up, right, You're gonna drive for a week with

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Speaker 1: no fuel p no fuel filter. Never made anything, but

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Speaker 1: it's in the Yeah, oh yeah, it's it's it's GM.

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Speaker 1: Just you know, this is when GM was starting to

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Speaker 1: make giant mistakes. That's what GM stands for. So so

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Speaker 1: you know government motors before government motors, they were giant mistakes,

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Speaker 1: so which we made them government motors. But anyway, let

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Speaker 1: me do this real quick before we were out of time.

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Speaker 1: So I want you to check voltage at the fuel pump.

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Speaker 1: If you can. There's a gray water, there's a gray

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Speaker 1: and a black wire. All right, it's a gray wire

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Speaker 1: with a black trace. If my memory serves me correct,

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Speaker 1: you should have a ten volts cranking. If you don't

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Speaker 1: have ten volts cranking, then we've got back feed ourselves up.

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Speaker 1: The line is the relay energizing. If the relay is

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Speaker 1: not energizing, I want you to look for twelve volts

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Speaker 1: on the relay on the dark green wire. You should

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Speaker 1: see it for two seconds with the initial key on,

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Speaker 1: and then it should be there while cranking. And then

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Speaker 1: I want you to go to the battery positive for

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Speaker 1: pattery positive on the orange wire at the fuel pump relay,

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Speaker 1: and the fuel pump relay should click when you're cranking

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Speaker 1: and stay on while you're cranking, or it should at

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Speaker 1: least you know, click if you're just turning the key

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Speaker 1: on and buzzing that pump for for for two seconds.

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Speaker 1: If you don't get that, you gotta get to the sourcer.

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Speaker 1: Why isn't that fuel pump relay working? And then we

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Speaker 1: can talk about what the next steps are. But I

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Speaker 1: just want to make sure an establish a baseline, all right,

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Speaker 1: pull me back, lick sneaking, let me know what the

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Speaker 1: results are till then I'm on. Any of the car

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Speaker 1: doctor mechanics are expensive. Their prices