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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to Between the Horns. It is Sunday,

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Speaker 1: July twenty eighth. DeMarco far is here with me, Miles Simmons.

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Speaker 1: He's about two o'clock Pacific time. Here. We are a

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Speaker 1: couple hours away from the start of the second practice

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Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen training camps. We have a spy in

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Speaker 1: our midst though. I'm looking over my right shoulder. What

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Speaker 1: are you doing here, sir? That's funny you show up

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Speaker 1: right when we start the show. Huh see he doesn't

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Speaker 1: talk to media, but you can't use a job, that's

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Speaker 1: all right, I mean the people. Where do you think

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Speaker 1: you are now, DeMarco? At terms of number of training camps,

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Speaker 1: you've been to oh Man as a as a player coach,

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Speaker 1: you know when you were over in Europe broadcast one

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Speaker 1: two three four, high school one two three four five,

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Speaker 1: pro get college our college seven as a pro Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so that's and then god, what year is this for

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Speaker 1: me now? So since OZ nine like proper, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean they told me that, they told me there

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Speaker 1: no matter a lot, so I don't know why. I

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Speaker 1: don't question that. That was the question. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 1: know how it's telling over how many you've been too. Well,

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Speaker 1: I thought about this a lot, and it's fun, and

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Speaker 1: you know, doing the media side of it and how

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Speaker 1: everyone thinks that things and snapshots, so it's year to year,

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Speaker 1: day to day, month to month, what have you. But

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Speaker 1: when you put it all together and you and you

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Speaker 1: go back to where you began, how training camps were

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Speaker 1: and what the play of the day was then to

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Speaker 1: where it is now, and you start to think about

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Speaker 1: the evolution of football, it's been unbelievable. Yeah, it really has.

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Speaker 1: The the technology side of it, how everything's changed because

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Speaker 1: of technology. How how you coach players, you know, and

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Speaker 1: what they need to be successful. That's changed. Um, even

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Speaker 1: the athlete has changed, so to speak. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: been a while. It's been fun, um, but it's still

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Speaker 1: just football, dude. I mean it's dudes putting on helmets,

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Speaker 1: shoulder pads and you're going after a football. You got

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Speaker 1: end zones on both sides, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So not much has changed in that regard, but a

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Speaker 1: lot has changed inside that fifty three by one hundred,

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Speaker 1: no no doubt about it. All right, So we've got

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Speaker 1: plenty to get to you today in terms of first impressions. Well,

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Speaker 1: we'd like to see the rest of camp, and then

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Speaker 1: we've actually got an announcement to make at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show as well. But let's start with Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay and Less sneak. Both of them receive contract extensions

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Speaker 1: through the twenty twenty three seasons. Is what do you

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Speaker 1: think that says about the Los Angeles Rams? Excited? It's great.

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Speaker 1: You know, you think about the years of instability where

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Speaker 1: you had question marks or you know, most people when

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Speaker 1: you talked about Rams football anywhere on any medium, they

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Speaker 1: had question marks about the GM or the head coach

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Speaker 1: or you know, the sanity of both, you know, for

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Speaker 1: keeping them or hiring them, right, you know what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. Yes, so this is good where everyone's on board.

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Speaker 1: You sign a red hot head coach, you keep him

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Speaker 1: under contract, and you keep a GM. To me, that

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Speaker 1: one of the best better resurrections in football that we've

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Speaker 1: ever seen. Remember he first it was Less and Jeff,

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Speaker 1: and then Less separated himself from Jeff from Jeff, and

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Speaker 1: then it became or you could say the opposite or

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Speaker 1: the opposite, and then it became McVeigh and Less and

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Speaker 1: they're doing great. They went to the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 1: they've raised the bar, so you know, it's it's the

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Speaker 1: It was a no brainer for the Rams to extend

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Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh and I'm I'm overjoyed for less need that

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Speaker 1: he's you know, tied in and you've got the same

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Speaker 1: And you know, I've been able to sit in the

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Speaker 1: draft room. I've been privileged enough to do that over

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Speaker 1: the last few years, and to see the way that

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Speaker 1: they bounce ideas back and forth off of each other.

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Speaker 1: They might not always agree on exactly what they're doing,

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Speaker 1: but they always have what's best for the Los Angeles

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Speaker 1: everything becomes a consensus. I'm with you. I think it's

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Speaker 1: the right mix for both because they're cutting edge, they're modern,

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Speaker 1: this game really is and what it's about yeah, and

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Speaker 1: games and the players they select for the team. But

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Speaker 1: as far as being on the cutting edge, like analytics

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Right, Yeah, So they may

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Speaker 1: have different ideas or different opinions about certain players, a

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Speaker 1: certain plays, certain groups, what have you, but it's always

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Speaker 1: within the same mindset of let's take this thing a

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Speaker 1: step beyond where we are now. Right. It goes back

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Speaker 1: to what mcvass says all the time, which is about communication. Right,

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Speaker 1: should be clear, open, honest and ongoing. Right. And you

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Speaker 1: can tell that the two of those guys much always

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Speaker 1: have that kind of dialogue. No, they're always thinking about it,

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Speaker 1: They're always constantly communicating. But I would love to be

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know what I mean, you know, because

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Speaker 1: you know how Less likes to talk about football, and yes,

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Speaker 1: you know he'll take you on a little journey sometimes, yes, right,

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Speaker 1: and McVey will just cut right through it. So, yes,

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Speaker 1: that might be fun when we're not there, Yeah, I can.

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Speaker 1: I will tell you this that when the camera, when

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Speaker 1: when we're doing draft stuff or whatever, and they will

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Speaker 1: and they will geek out over film they're watching together,

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Speaker 1: and it's like you can just hear the joy in

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Speaker 1: it is that they're watching. So like that again, that partnership.

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Speaker 1: organization as they have, that's exactly what you want. The RAMS,

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Speaker 1: and I think the term of the contract is exactly

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Speaker 1: right because you know, guys are gonna grow, people are

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Speaker 1: So let's see. But I think the timeframe is exactly

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Speaker 1: on I don't know how many podcasts about position battles.

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Speaker 1: There aren't many. I mean, right, that's good. That's the

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Speaker 1: way it should be. So they've been right a lot

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Speaker 1: more than they've been wrong. So you know, you hope

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Speaker 1: regular season with what you think your football team looks

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Speaker 1: like right now. Absolutely so the next thing that or

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Speaker 1: extension is the quarter. Yeah, in Jared Goff, no doubt.

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Speaker 1: And so it's interesting that could happen this month, it

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Speaker 1: could happen in next week, It could happen next year, right.

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Speaker 1: But I think when Les Sneed says in that press

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Speaker 1: but I think it must have been on Friday, he

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Speaker 1: no matter how we feel about their performance. We don't

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Speaker 1: attack people. We attack performance. So some of the other

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Speaker 1: if that guy's getting paid that much, then how much

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Speaker 1: him something similar if not more. So. Yeah, it is

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Speaker 1: So it's both. That's so funny. I mean, we always

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Speaker 1: something like eighteen or maybe not a perfect passer, but those,

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Speaker 1: but you also have seventy five percent completion rate and

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Speaker 1: that only happened you know x amount where you dominate

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Speaker 1: the weekend sports talk shows. You know, every TV show

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Speaker 1: anybody's talking about the NFL starts and ends with your highlights, right,

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Speaker 1: you know, back to back to back game and in

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Speaker 1: headed with a guy that's had that many reps as

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Speaker 1: You know, when I read that maybe Jared gos gonna regress?

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Speaker 1: What makes you say that? Right? Why? And you know,

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Speaker 1: where a coach actually learns from the player. Well, it's

425
00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:29,560
Speaker 1: funny you think about that, and I think about Sean

426
00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 1: McVay and how he says that he learned to see

427
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: the game from a twenty two man perspective from John Bruden.

428
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 1: So what I mean by that that means you have

429
00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:41,920
Speaker 1: a player or a coach who doesn't just think of

430
00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,040
Speaker 1: it offense versus defense or defense versus offense, right, like

431
00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,720
Speaker 1: you see it from the standpoint of if the offense

432
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,639
Speaker 1: does this, the defense is going to try to counter

433
00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: that with this, right. So I think that's basically what

434
00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 1: you're saying about Cooper Cup. He can see the game

435
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,240
Speaker 1: from the twenty two man perspective. And that's not common, No,

436
00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 1: as a wide receipt, not at all. I'll tell I'll

437
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 1: give you an example. Right, me and Kevin Carter way

438
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,640
Speaker 1: back in the day, We're gonna run a stunt where

439
00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: he's coming underneath, right, So what I do is I

440
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: start shouting at the offensive tackle, start calling him names

441
00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: out of the blue, just to draw his attention, to

442
00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:19,000
Speaker 1: get him to say something to me right, just a

443
00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,680
Speaker 1: little bit, to get him the various set, to get

444
00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: his attention off Kevin for a hot minute. Because if

445
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:26,480
Speaker 1: he really has a chance to get in his stance

446
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,359
Speaker 1: and read Kevin, he can see in his stance that

447
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: he's not coming right. So maybe I can get him

448
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,120
Speaker 1: off that's a little bit more off his game, off

449
00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: his focus, and we can get the game home. Same

450
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 1: thing with Cooper cup Like, if he knows we're gonna

451
00:21:37,680 --> 00:21:39,679
Speaker 1: give it to Todd Gurley on a perimeter play right,

452
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760
Speaker 1: so I have to go and block this nickel. Well,

453
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 1: he's got Andrew Wentworth has Frank Clark to that side.

454
00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: He's coming off the rock like a skull of a dog.

455
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 1: Let me give him a little bluff to freeze him

456
00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,119
Speaker 1: so Witt can make the block and I can go

457
00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: get my guy and out goes Todd Gurley. That's the

458
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: stuff that's not taught. That's the stuff that's born of

459
00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 1: a great football player, if you know what I mean. Yes,

460
00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,479
Speaker 1: So when you have that on the field and a

461
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,119
Speaker 1: head coach that feels the same way. Wow, that's what

462
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean. Having cut back in this offense on this

463
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:09,960
Speaker 1: football team is is immeasurable. It is makes you better,

464
00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:13,000
Speaker 1: it is and it also allows Robert Woods to play

465
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 1: his more natural position. And when we say that, it's

466
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 1: not that Robert Woods did a poor job feeling Grouper

467
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,119
Speaker 1: Cup because he didn't. He was great, right, it was terrific.

468
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he had twelve hundred yards receiving. But the

469
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:28,560
Speaker 1: offense is better when Cup is out there, when Woods

470
00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:30,720
Speaker 1: is out there, and when and when Brandon Cooks is

471
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,360
Speaker 1: out there, and so when you have that trio, it's

472
00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,040
Speaker 1: why I know Sean McVeigh has said, you know, they

473
00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 1: would like to be able to rotate more guys in offensively,

474
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have three aren't playing the entire time,

475
00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: and maybe you will have to. And Josh Reynolds has

476
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 1: definitely emerged. You. I mean, he's made play after play, right,

477
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: He had five touchdowns less, so it's not like he's

478
00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,000
Speaker 1: a slouch. And so how many could he have had that?

479
00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't know, at least one more. At least one

480
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: more if his big toe like was just like a

481
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 1: half inch Shorter. Yeah, in that Kansas City game, you know,

482
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a rough one for him. And

483
00:23:05,560 --> 00:23:10,120
Speaker 1: I mean to get targets, well, that's tough to get

484
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,800
Speaker 1: on the field. Is hard to get this offense, in

485
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,439
Speaker 1: this offense with these three guys, to get on the

486
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: field is tough. To get targets when you're out there

487
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 1: is even tougher. Yeah, because what's your number one, two,

488
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: and third best option? You know, if you're Jared Goff, right,

489
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to fight for every single target

490
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 1: and every single rep that you get. But I tell

491
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 1: you what, you can earn it out here. You can

492
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: earn it from Sean McVay. Hey. Look, I like in

493
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 1: certain situations, I think we have a play, a guaranteed

494
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 1: play in Josh Reynolds because of how he runs this

495
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,159
Speaker 1: route and his size, you know what I mean. Yes,

496
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: so he can carve out a Niche maybe not be

497
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,880
Speaker 1: a starter, but you can be the most important guy

498
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: say on third down that the Rams have well, right,

499
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: and that's certainly something that the Rams don't necessarily have

500
00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,399
Speaker 1: with Cooks with Woods with cup is the Josh Reynolds size.

501
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: He's six foot three and has that great wingspan, right,

502
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 1: and he knows how to use some other six three

503
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 1: receivers that we've seen on these fields in the past,

504
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: no doubt so, right, That to me is as I

505
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119
Speaker 1: agree with you, that's where he can carve out that

506
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 1: kind of niche where maybe it's you're the red zone target,

507
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:14,000
Speaker 1: right you, Gerald Everett. You know, both of those guys

508
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: can be the matchup nightmares for the Rams in the

509
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: red zone where they need to be productive and score,

510
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:23,119
Speaker 1: no doubt, right. I mean, if you feel confident in

511
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: Josh Reynolds that you can send him out and as

512
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,120
Speaker 1: a starter, whenever you see a trimp corner a five

513
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: eight guy, right, that's pretty good rimp cord, you know

514
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. I mean, he could be a dynamite player,

515
00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 1: but he's not very tall. So there's going to be

516
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,320
Speaker 1: an advantage if you have a six four receiver six

517
00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: three six four receivers second leap, right, Yes, So, I

518
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: mean when Josh Reynolds looks at the breakdown and the

519
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: roster of the other football team and he sees Sue

520
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 1: starting anybody under six feet, he should salivate. Yeah, at

521
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 1: some point in the game, I'm gonna be matched up

522
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:55,280
Speaker 1: against that guy. Yeah, and I'm going to be expected

523
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:57,359
Speaker 1: to beat him for sure, and you need to be

524
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: in those situations. Yes, And I think that given the

525
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 1: experience he got last year, the RAMS can certainly trust

526
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 1: him to do that, no doubt. Just like in basketball,

527
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: if a power forward gets it on the block against

528
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: the point guard, you drive you right and you have

529
00:25:11,880 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 1: to score in that situation, same thing that should be

530
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 1: his mentality. Yes. One more thing about Cooper Cup though,

531
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: just modern medicine, man, you know, like it doesn't seem

532
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: like maybe five six years ago. Yeah, players could return

533
00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: from a torn ACL as quickly as Cup is returning

534
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,480
Speaker 1: right now, anybody, this is not even really nine months right, Yeah? Yeah,

535
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 1: so it's November. It was November, mid November that he

536
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,120
Speaker 1: tore the ACL Week ten against the against the Seattle Seahawks.

537
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: So now he is back, he is basically able to

538
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: be a full participant in practice, and the RAMS are

539
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: going to monitor his workload throughout the course of August

540
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,919
Speaker 1: and make sure he is best prepared for competition and

541
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: performance in Week one. But you look, yesterday, he's going

542
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: down the left scene, he leaps up, he makes a

543
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 1: catch and it's almost like okay, you know, that that's

544
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 1: where he is. Right. Look, I mean it's it's a

545
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:07,399
Speaker 1: credit to modern science. Like you said that, I think

546
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,879
Speaker 1: they're they're getting better with that surgery or this is

547
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,840
Speaker 1: the best they're ever gonna get repairing that sort of injury. Yeah,

548
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: but you also have to give credit to the athlete,

549
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 1: I mean and the RAMS training and the RAM training

550
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: Reggie Scott, Byron Cunning and how football is today where

551
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: your training room is not just icebags and whirlpools, right,

552
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,119
Speaker 1: you know, it's functional. It's getting you stronger while you're

553
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: getting healthy. So, uh, medical science is caught up and

554
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: there's a great game plan on how to treat this surgery,

555
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, and then you have the athlete that

556
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,399
Speaker 1: I mean, look, the guy's gonna heal himself. You know,

557
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: you better heal him or he's gonna go back out

558
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 1: there with dragging his leg. That's how much he wants

559
00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,439
Speaker 1: to play. So you know, credit to all three that

560
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,359
Speaker 1: he's coming back. But I mean, I think at some

561
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 1: point we're gonna stop being surprised guys are making it

562
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: back this soon, you know what I mean. Yeah, it's

563
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: almost you're gonna start to expect it, right, Right, And

564
00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: that's that's crazy, just based on the nature of the surgery,

565
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,920
Speaker 1: no doubt. But also I mean, I don't want to

566
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: say speaking of ACLS, but speaking of ACLS, Todd Gurley

567
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:08,480
Speaker 1: is back and he is on the field now. He

568
00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 1: did not participate in the Rams off season program, basically

569
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: the on field portions there. But now it is really

570
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: good to see him on the field. You know, I

571
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: took a video yesterday I put it on Twitter of

572
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: him basically taking his first handoff since February from Jared

573
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:25,760
Speaker 1: Goff and then he hit get a little burst yellow

574
00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: explosion and went down the field. So it's good to

575
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: see him practicing, and he says he feels good. Good.

576
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,120
Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way you should feel after an

577
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: off season. Yeah, you know, practice this Honestly, yesterday should

578
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,480
Speaker 1: be as good as you're going to feel well the

579
00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: entire season when they pat the pads on, when they

580
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:46,720
Speaker 1: put the pads on for the first time and actually start,

581
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, banging into each other. Yeah, that the day

582
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: before or the minute before is the best you're going

583
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: to feel until February. Okay, after that first hit, you

584
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: know something's gonna be off. You know there's going to

585
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 1: be a scratch that you that just won't heal. You

586
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 1: get me the scratch unlike where you're you see you're pointing,

587
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: you're great for our radio audience. Your orbital bone, your

588
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: eye and right above the eye. Yeah, that where you

589
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 1: put your helmet on. Every time you put your helmet on,

590
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: and it's just like you open the wound. Yeah, I

591
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: hate those. Oh my god. I used to get those

592
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 1: in college. On the first day. I was determined from

593
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: mid on never to have another scratch. I would like

594
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: paint my face with vassoline like a boxer would. That

595
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: prevents scratches. I was trying. I didn't want it, don't

596
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: It sucked so bad. It opened every day. I bled

597
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,359
Speaker 1: every day from that area. It just makes you a

598
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 1: sour person, it really does. There's a lot of things

599
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: that make me a sour person. So you can imagine

600
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: how I would feel with that. Well, just imagine especially.

601
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: I don't know how you sleep, but if you sleep

602
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: on that side, I do. I usually do sleep. I

603
00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 1: cut every single day. It sucks. Oh and sometimes you

604
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: forget or somebody whacks you in the head right there

605
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 1: and just make sure bed Yeah, yea, I'm sorry not

606
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: to go on those hot summer days in training camp

607
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: with a cut on your head, especially if it's human.

608
00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: You want to know why people start fighting a camp.

609
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: It's because of stuff like that. Yes, yeah, every everything

610
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 1: just bothers you. First pain, someone spikes your toe, you

611
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. And then on the very next

612
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: play someone spikes it again in the same exact place

613
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: we're going. I just I just gotta I just gotta

614
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: have you right then and there and we're done with us. Yeah,

615
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: nothing personal. I'm just gonna sock you in the face

616
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: until I can't feel my toe, okay, yeah, and then

617
00:29:23,800 --> 00:29:25,600
Speaker 1: it's over. And then we'll go have lunch the mess

618
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: hole and we'll talk about stuff and it'll be all right.

619
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: Just let me get it out. Um. Yes, but I

620
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: think to get back to Todd Gurley. Oh yes, yeah,

621
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: that's what we were talking. Sorry, remember right, Yeah, it's okay.

622
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Your your toe started hurt. I mean, just that little custard.

623
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It just makes you just ugly, ugly

624
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,480
Speaker 1: ugly people. It just makes you mean, it really does.

625
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: You've never had that, Okay, never mind, Like I said,

626
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 1: think other thing. You don't see red jerseys anymore. In practice,

627
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: you may like hit the backup quarterback, yeah, yeah, or

628
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback no one cares about. You may hit him

629
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 1: in practice, you're not definitely not supposed to hit the

630
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: quarterback practice, No, but you're just trying to start a fight,

631
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: you know why because you have a cut on your

632
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: y anyway, But yes, it's good to see Gurley use

633
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: that speed, use that explosion, use that power, no order

634
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: or to really show that yes, I can at least

635
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: run the football, right, like I put that on Twitter,

636
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: and then you start in the responses like, oh I

637
00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 1: was told his news afoor you're never gonna be able

638
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: to run again, like, and it's not just the case.

639
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: But again, the Rams do have a plan in place,

640
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,440
Speaker 1: as you can probably hear the music in the background now,

641
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: is people start to file in for this practice anyway,

642
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: there's a plan in place for what Todd Gurley can

643
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,239
Speaker 1: do to keep them as healthy as possible over the

644
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: course of the season. Now, Sean McVay and then Todd

645
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: Gurley said that this is basically the veteran rest plan. Right.

646
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: We've seen this from guy's like Andrew Whitworth in the past.

647
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,640
Speaker 1: You could say, like John Sullivan, Rob stafol, I believe

648
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: they did it with last year, you know. So it's

649
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: basically you're not going to practice every day. When you're practicing,

650
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: we need to get the most out of you. But

651
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 1: also we're going to be aware that your body is ore.

652
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: Is what we need, no doubt have to have you healthy. Well,

653
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,560
Speaker 1: this is where, like Todd Gurley the athlete, I used

654
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: to hear this way back in the day, Miles, you

655
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: are your briefcase. You are your own business. You're a corporation.

656
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: So this is when you start investing in yourself, when

657
00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 1: you start buying the hyperbaric chamber that's in your house. Yeah,

658
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 1: you start like every day for you, regardless if you're

659
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: on the medical report, the trainer's list, every day is

660
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: about treatment for you. Right, That's just how it is.

661
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 1: So I think some of this, you know, Todd Gurley's

662
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: knee all this is a little overblown. And there's a

663
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: part of me that knows he probably likes people speculating

664
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,760
Speaker 1: it feels him. Yes, you doubt me if you want

665
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: r don't pick me in fantasy and at your own

666
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: peril and pay for it later. Yes, So when I

667
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: see him take the field, look like Todd Gurley, it

668
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: is what it is that arthritis or whatever we're talking

669
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: about his there, sure, but it's not like he can't

670
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,440
Speaker 1: play through it. And I'm confident being down there, some

671
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: of Todd Gurley's best days were probably some of the

672
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: days where he felt the worst. So he can play

673
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,280
Speaker 1: with this, yes, you know what I mean. But every

674
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 1: now and then, you know, with injuries, sometimes they get

675
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: you and you have to take some time off. But

676
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 1: as long as everyone's on the same page and he's

677
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: on the same page about his career, yeah, some of

678
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,680
Speaker 1: the stuff is really overblown, I would agree with you.

679
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: But the other element to this now is the fact

680
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 1: that the Rams have two more backs. Basically, it seems

681
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: like that they're going to be able to trust and

682
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: believe in and put in in different situations, right, no doubt.

683
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: So you obviously know what Malcolm Brown can do. We've

684
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: seen that for the past couple of years and he's

685
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: been really, really great. But now you also have the

686
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 1: element of Darryl Henderson and obviously, like you don't know

687
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:53,040
Speaker 1: what you're gonna have in a rookie until he gets

688
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:54,600
Speaker 1: out there on the field and he has to perform

689
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 1: when the lights are on, right, right, But I'll tell

690
00:32:56,760 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: you just watching him, even in yesterday's practice with no pads,

691
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: what he can do is impressive. The dude's got some gas,

692
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 1: doesn't he he does? Yeah, if he ever gets loose

693
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 1: on the edge, and I'll just say, when he gets

694
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: loose on the edge in preseason, it's almost a guarantee.

695
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:13,959
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm seriously, one of these preca games, you're

696
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: gonna be facing a bonehead defensive end that makes the

697
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: wrong choice and out and away we go. And I

698
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: say this, if he gets loose in the second level,

699
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 1: you won't get him. That's that's the kind of jets

700
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: he has. Or if if you do get him on

701
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: an angle, that safety can also run. The kid can

702
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 1: flat out fly. I'll ask you this, Should Darrell Henderson

703
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 1: be in the top three in rushing yards for preseason? This?

704
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 1: Top three? Yeah, I won't say lead. I won't say

705
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,200
Speaker 1: lead the NFL because who knows how much he's going

706
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 1: to play, right, That's that's something I don't know. Do

707
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: you think he realistically he could be in that top

708
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: just based on the fact that he's probably going to play. Yeah,

709
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think we'll see much of

710
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: Brown and we're not going to see Grilly. I'm confident

711
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: in saying this. I would bet your hat, the one,

712
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: the dirty hat that you put on this table and dirty.

713
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 1: Nobody can tell if you're gonna if you're going to

714
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 1: present a white hat, make sure it's clean. That's all

715
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying, thank you. But I would bet that dirty

716
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: hat of yours that he'll probably have one of the

717
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: longest rush rush attempts of the preseason. Okay, yeah, I

718
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 1: like that at some point it's gonna get blocked up

719
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 1: well because it's all vanilla. Yes, right, So you think

720
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 1: about him last year at Memphis, it got complicated trying

721
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: to stop him and he's still beat it. So now

722
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 1: you're gonna be playing in the preseason against better athletes,

723
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,800
Speaker 1: so to speak, but the defenses aren't going to be

724
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 1: as complicated. At some point, he's gonna hit one like

725
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 1: a skull of a dog and be gone. This is

726
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: a guy who averaged eight point nine yards per carry

727
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 1: over two seasons at Memphis. So we talk about the

728
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: explosion and how he can get loosened and get down

729
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: the field. Yes, I would think that that's something can

730
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,279
Speaker 1: definitely do, no doubt. When Derrick Henry came out. I

731
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 1: mean one thing that you can guarantee. I don't know

732
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: about yards or carries, but when he does take the

733
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: rock on the receiving end of at the end of

734
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: that run, there's gonna be something physical. And that's the

735
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:00,319
Speaker 1: way he looked and that's the way he plays now.

736
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,200
Speaker 1: So you can almost guarantee in the preseason if he

737
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: takes one on a delay or catches a screen and

738
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: McVeigh catches the defense napping and you get one on

739
00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: the perimeter, he is gonna fly out, fly So I

740
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: don't know about how many yards or carries or whatnot,

741
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: but guaranteed, either run or pass, he's gonna have one

742
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: of the longest plays of the preseason. One of the

743
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: things that I think is great about him is when

744
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 1: you think about I think lessned call it this. He can.

745
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Henderson can bring a Kamara element to the Rams offense,

746
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,520
Speaker 1: right And if you think about something that makes you

747
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,959
Speaker 1: cuss loudly, yes, just maybe you call it a change

748
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: of pace back, whatever you want to call it. But

749
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: I think seeing yesterday in practice, there are a few

750
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: plays that really reminded me of how the Saints have

751
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: used Kamara and to a really really good effect. So one,

752
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: and this happened with the Rams scout team offense basically

753
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: against the first team defense. But I think they were

754
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: still running the Rams offensive plays because you're not necessarily

755
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: game planning game planning for Carol on it. But anyway,

756
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: there was one play where Kamara, excuse me, Henderson was

757
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: lined up next to Blake Bortles in the backfield. So

758
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 1: Bortles sends Henderson out to the left and then he

759
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 1: runs a little I don't know, three to five yard

760
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: out right to the left. That is vintage what you

761
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: see out of Kamara, just getting out of the backfield,

762
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,440
Speaker 1: getting in space. And then you want to see if

763
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: Kenny make a man miss, because oftentimes he can right

764
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: now right. And so then the next play, I think

765
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: it was, they ran a screen to the left side

766
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: as well, so you see what he can do when

767
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: the ball is in his hands, and the fact that

768
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,919
Speaker 1: he can catch really really well, that's what's gonna give

769
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: him just this kind of dynamic quality to things that

770
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: the Rams can already do with Todd Gurley. But it's

771
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: just it's a different kind of athlete size, his speed

772
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 1: and his ability number one, like Kamara, when you put

773
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: Todd out there right when you remove him from the

774
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,919
Speaker 1: backfield and put him out there as a receiver. Yeah,

775
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,839
Speaker 1: is there any doubt who you should cover him with? Now?

776
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,360
Speaker 1: Not saying Todd can't beat anybody in su or with it.

777
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,279
Speaker 1: We've seen that before and Sean mcvaghon can dial it

778
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 1: up to where you can get him in the end

779
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 1: zone or bust a big play. But with Kamara, I

780
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: think that's the problem. When he's back there and he

781
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:13,239
Speaker 1: starts to move out, Okay, I cannot cover him with

782
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,479
Speaker 1: a linebacker. It's gonna be hard to you no matter

783
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: who it is. Yeah, I think I think my safety

784
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: may be able to stick him one on one, you

785
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean, maybe, or we're gonna have to

786
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: combo coverage, right, So that's the Kamara element to me.

787
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Plus he can still take a traditional carry, yes if

788
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: if you go light on him, or you think you

789
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: can go light in the box to stop him from

790
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: running the football. So that's the Kamara effect. If that's

791
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 1: where Henderson is headed, man, and you can get more

792
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: production out of your tight end spot added to this offense,

793
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: whoa right, unbelievable, right, So it's gonna be hard for

794
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 1: God to mess that up. That's what I'm saying, right, Well,

795
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 1: that's and it's interesting because we've heard I think less

796
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: Need said this too after the draft, like this is

797
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: a position that they not really had within the Rams

798
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: offense since twenty seventeen when Sean mcbagh got here. They

799
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: wanted to fill this role. They use a couple of

800
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,399
Speaker 1: they did, dunbar, they try to do it. We've seen it. Well,

801
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: this staff had and well they had it for a year.

802
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 1: What do you mean they had, you guys say two exactly?

803
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,719
Speaker 1: They did have a guy I'm telling it's not but

804
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: that's not. But that's the role that they wanted him

805
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,879
Speaker 1: for to be that matchup Okay, yeah, yeah, a guy

806
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,080
Speaker 1: that can take carries like he did, plus be a

807
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:30,279
Speaker 1: receiver out of the backfield. Yes, you know what I mean.

808
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: And it didn't work out. So they've tried. It's hard

809
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: to find those Kamara types. Everyone seems to have a

810
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 1: similar styled guy, but they're not as effective. Yes, you

811
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, right, But the thing is they

812
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 1: when you talk about that, they what I mean is

813
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: they've tried to find specific players who filled that role

814
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: as a running back, right right, So Lance Dunbar was

815
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: the one that they tried to get it for in

816
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, and he didn't work out either because his

817
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: kne wouldn't co operate. But then I wish he was healthy. Yeah,

818
00:38:58,040 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: I mean too. But then there was a player that

819
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: they had target in twenty eighteen and he just didn't

820
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: quite fall to where the RAMS needed to get him

821
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: in the drap right right, So now they have this guy.

822
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,759
Speaker 1: So this is something we talk about the fact that

823
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 1: a lot of what the RAMS have done, nearly all

824
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 1: about the RAMS have done, has been in eleven personnel.

825
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 1: So we see three wide receivers, one running back, one

826
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: tight end all the time. How can that change with

827
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: somebody like Darrell Henderson. I don't know if that means

828
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 1: that they're going to all of a sudden start using

829
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 1: two backs at once. Maybe they will, maybe they will not,

830
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: But you at least have something that can really make

831
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: defenses stay awake at night. That's another element. Well that's

832
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 1: what I thought. Yeah, you'd remove one of the receivers

833
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: because you think Cooper Cup's taken Russia temp Or has

834
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: Russi attempts Cooks had Russi attempts Robert Robert Woods had

835
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: what five or six in one game at one point. Yes, yeah,

836
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: he had nineteen carries this year. That's what it became

837
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: obvious they were something up with Todd, right, because Robert

838
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 1: Woods at one point in that game, it had more

839
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: carries than Todd did. Okay, yeah, just think if you

840
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 1: remove a receiver or a guy that can catch the

841
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,480
Speaker 1: football as good as a receiver, but you still have

842
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,400
Speaker 1: that same misdirection to get those end a round plays

843
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: just with a faster running back, right, it just makes

844
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: you a better, better football team and a better play caller.

845
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: But I would say that when okay, we talk about

846
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: and I think somebody tweeted this and I'm sorry I

847
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: can't remember your handle off him, but somebody was saying,

848
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: do you think that Darryl Henderson can fill that Tavon

849
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: type role? And I think I tweeted this on I

850
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: think that that role specifically is we're beyond that in

851
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 1: this offense, right, because of the way that everybody on

852
00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 1: the wide receiving corpse taking carries. Right, It's not just

853
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: one person is faking the jet sweep as they go around.

854
00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: You see Robert Woods do it. You see Cooper cup

855
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 1: do it Brandon Cooks. Doesn't You saw josh Rynolds do

856
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 1: it a lot and you was taken into rounds as well.

857
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:55,959
Speaker 1: So it's in jet sweeps. It's not like that role

858
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: is exclusive to one player on the offer. No, No,

859
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: I mean he's got to be able to get the

860
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: defense to believe that he can beat you run in pass.

861
00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: And this is something like way back in college I

862
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,319
Speaker 1: think it was Arkansas, they had McFadden and Felix Jones. Right,

863
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 1: there's two running backs on the field at the same time, right,

864
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,279
Speaker 1: so if you caved in on McFadden, they give it

865
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:16,680
Speaker 1: off to Felix Jones on the end a round, you

866
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,040
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So running the football, he can

867
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: be dynamic. I remember that was the best weapon when

868
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 1: you put Tavon and Todd Gurley in the background. That's

869
00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: how Todd Girle they got Todd Gurley going down a

870
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: stretch in twenty fifteen was through that. Now, the downside

871
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: of it was I don't think many people bought the

872
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 1: fact that Tavon could beat you running routes. Yeah, so

873
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: if Darryl Henderson can show convince a defense that he

874
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: can actually beat you running routes, then you become Kamar alike. Yes, yeah, yes, yes,

875
00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: and there still is a lot to prove from that standpoint.

876
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to seeing him once he gets pads

877
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: on later over the course of this week. But again,

878
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: it just you see that there's something there. Well, you know,

879
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,919
Speaker 1: just make sure when he's in the game that Aaron isn't.

880
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, you know, if you want to see

881
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: something in practice, just make sure Aaron's not there, because

882
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't make the play, he's gonna mess

883
00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: up some blocking scheme. Anyway, it's fun. It is fun

884
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: to see Aaron Donald at practice in training camp. Yeah,

885
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: because it's something we haven't seen since twenty sixteen. You know,

886
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,480
Speaker 1: it's good to have your best player, especially at that

887
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: position on the field, because it only helps your offensive

888
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 1: line get better. Yes, you know, I mean, it takes

889
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: away all the fear of whoever you might play, because

890
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: you're not going to play anybody better than you're not

891
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: gonna find anybody better. Yeah. More intimidating than ninety nine

892
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: lining up in front of you when the reps really

893
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: can't help you, you know what I mean. Yes, that's true, right, Well,

894
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: he's he lines up off side who's gonna car out here, nobody,

895
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,560
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. Maybe, because he's gonna wreck practice. If he

896
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: decides to put his hand on your face mask and

897
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 1: rip it off, try to make your home to touch

898
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: your butt, you're gonna ask him to stop, right, Yes,

899
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 1: that's probably can do. Yeah, yeah, probably. Okay, let's let's

900
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: do this because I think that we we always talk

901
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: about this and like we try to figure it out.

902
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 1: So who do you think of the undrafted free agents

903
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:08,799
Speaker 1: as a good chance to maybe make the team. And

904
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: we got to do it at the start of camp

905
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: because then if we get it at the end of camp,

906
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: we actually know what we're talking. I don't even have

907
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 1: his number memorize, but I'm going with Prole, little Proley,

908
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 1: oh as Austin Prole, because he's number eighty five, eighty seven,

909
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: excuse me, number eighty seven, Astin Austin Prole. Because I

910
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: know he's been doing this since birth, so okay for

911
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 1: the land receiver. He's been reading defenses, reading corners, reading

912
00:43:35,320 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 1: safeties since birth. And why do we know this Because

913
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: I played with his father, Ricky Prole. Yeah right, so

914
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 1: I know he used to bring him in the locker

915
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,720
Speaker 1: room this kid has been around pros. He's not shocked

916
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,799
Speaker 1: or surprised about anybody he sees on the field. Yeah. Yeah,

917
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: And the way that he entered the NFL probably bothers him,

918
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 1: but it's not going to stop him. So that's that

919
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: would be my guy. Absolutely. I think that that's fair.

920
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: I would say sim Al Walker. Yeah, he is a

921
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: wide receiver out of Eastern Washington, and I like the

922
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,240
Speaker 1: way he runs routes. I like the way he seems

923
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: to be aggressive with his hands, and I don't necessarily

924
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,720
Speaker 1: think that he's gonna come in and play with receiver.

925
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: I think that given what he seems like he can do,

926
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: he looks like somebody who could be a good guy

927
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: for bones on special teams, no doubt. I mean, and

928
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,960
Speaker 1: that's the way. That's the way you've got to make

929
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,359
Speaker 1: the team as an undrafted guy. And that's big, you know.

930
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 1: I think at some point, you know this, this team

931
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 1: turns offensive. Every team does, especially when you start paying

932
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback and you shout, if you're making that big investment,

933
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 1: then most of the assets should si shift towards the offense.

934
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 1: But I like the fact that you have a lot

935
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,799
Speaker 1: of defensive players still playing special teams because it makes

936
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: you aggressive, no doubt, you know what I mean. So

937
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 1: I hope that continues, but at some point you might

938
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,439
Speaker 1: see more and more receivers out there. What's interesting, too,

939
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:51,839
Speaker 1: is who do we think is gonna be the kick

940
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 1: returner in pune returner because Joejoe Natson obviously comes in

941
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: as the incumbent, but that is one of the few

942
00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: spots I think where there could be so competition. Well

943
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 1: are you are you in the situation to where when

944
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 1: they do punt it and the balls in the air,

945
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,080
Speaker 1: do you still hold your breath when Joejoe's receiving it

946
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,440
Speaker 1: fielding the punt? Not really? Not really? At one point

947
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 1: you might have, yeah, but he was also coming off

948
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,920
Speaker 1: the injury, so you know, right, So then I hope

949
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: that he's going to improve his game as to where

950
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 1: he becomes one of the more efficient punt returners in

951
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: the game. I want every punt return to be explosive.

952
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:30,040
Speaker 1: I want everyone to touch the endzone, of course, right, Yes,

953
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: the rule of thumb is one first down per return,

954
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: save one for your offense, right exactly, But with a

955
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: team that can score from almost anywhere, just be efficient

956
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,040
Speaker 1: back there. Just don't drop it. Make sure you feel

957
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 1: the punt. Yes, yeah, that's the most important thing. So

958
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,000
Speaker 1: I don't care if he returns one more than five

959
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 1: yards all year, as long as he doesn't muff one punt, right,

960
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 1: I think. But don't you want at least some kind

961
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 1: of dynamism from that spot, right, Like you want to

962
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: be able to say, okay, like fair Cooper. Right. And

963
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: that's kind of a surprise in twenty seventeen, the way

964
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: he came on and how well he played. But he

965
00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: made a real difference in those games, no doubt, I mean,

966
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: and we I think people always knew he could do

967
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:12,480
Speaker 1: something like that. It was just putt return was taken

968
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: by another guy. It was so once that was taken

969
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: away or given away, so to speak, depending on how

970
00:46:17,560 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: you look. Then he got a chance to do what

971
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:20,239
Speaker 1: he did best. And he wont up in the Pro Bowl,

972
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,439
Speaker 1: so be it. But you know, some of the best

973
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: teams you don't have room for just the specialist, you know,

974
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: the guy that does just one thing. So if I

975
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:32,280
Speaker 1: had my druthers, my punt returner would be a corner. Okay,

976
00:46:32,360 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 1: especially when I'm an offensive football team. Interesting, Yeah, so

977
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: I won't have to burn that offensive roster spot for

978
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,839
Speaker 1: a guy that does one thing defensively. Yeah, he plays

979
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: corner and he returns punts. I don't know that the

980
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 1: Rams really have that kind of guy on the roster

981
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: right now. I mean it would be certainly interesting to

982
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: see if they do. Yeah, I think seeing who the

983
00:46:51,719 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: Rams trot out there for punt returns during the preseason

984
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: games is going to be interesting, right. I think you're

985
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:00,439
Speaker 1: seeing the punt returners and they're probably all he's gonna

986
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: They're probably all gonna be on the offensive side. But

987
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: whoever is returning the first most important thing with this

988
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 1: football team, in this offense is feel the punt, right,

989
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: So I don't give away a possession. Yeah, even if

990
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: the guy is explosive, I'm putting out the guy I

991
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,440
Speaker 1: trust more to feel the punt. Yes, exactly. So I

992
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 1: would also like to point out that remember when I

993
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: kind of called this properly into team with Bradley Marques.

994
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: So I have at least a decent track record here.

995
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: When was Bradley Marquez here fifteen? How long have you been?

996
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 1: How long have you been here? So one out of

997
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: what well, okay, look at you. Well, I'm just saying,

998
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 1: never get you in the Cooper's Town. Wow, I wasn't

999
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: really here for the start of fourteen traps. Okay, wow

1000
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 1: one guy, Bradley Marquees hanging your hat out, Marquez, Uh,

1001
00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: he was here for a while. It was a good

1002
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,400
Speaker 1: Stars Teams contributory had good hands. Start calling you, al Bundy.

1003
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 1: That's fine, you've been talking about the same play for

1004
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: twenty years. Okay, any parting shots? Uh no, the parting

1005
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,480
Speaker 1: shot is all yours. Yeah, you're so, you're just gonna

1006
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: leave it talk of course. All right, right now, I'm

1007
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 1: not happy with you. Okay, that's fair. I'm soho are you?

1008
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 1: I'm not happy with me? Thank you. So, as we

1009
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: alluded to at the top of the show, we have

1010
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: an announcement, and that is that I am going to

1011
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: be leaving Los Angeles RAMS in a couple of weeks.

1012
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: So that's what he thinks. Yeah, I mean to be

1013
00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:21,720
Speaker 1: a little self indulgent. Yeah, this has been kind of

1014
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: a really amazing ride for me for the last five years,

1015
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: and so to leave this like it's a really great opportunity.

1016
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:32,479
Speaker 1: And I'm sure that by the time this thing comes

1017
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: out and over the next couple of days, you guys

1018
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: will hear what the next opportunity is. But just to

1019
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:38,839
Speaker 1: sort of, I don't know, just wrap up my time

1020
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 1: here with the Rams and we'll have another episode or

1021
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 1: two to to do this. But you know, I came

1022
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,839
Speaker 1: in to this job as a fresh face, twenty two

1023
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:53,440
Speaker 1: year old. About that, well, I was gotel And you know,

1024
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 1: it was July twenty second of twenty fourteen when Kevin

1025
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: dum Off emailed me and I was working this interns

1026
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: in Charlotte, North Carolina, and asked me if I had

1027
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: any interest in applying to be the writer, the bet

1028
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,640
Speaker 1: writer for the Los Angeles Rams or you see that

1029
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:10,920
Speaker 1: in the Saint Louis Ram talk. Look at you, man,

1030
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to nice and I'm really I'm really you

1031
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: ruined it already, I guess maybe, but you know it's

1032
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty crazy that five years later, you know, I

1033
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: received an offer to go elsewhere. So I guess life

1034
00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: works some mysterious ways. But I do want to say

1035
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 1: thank you to to Kevin, to Brian Killingsworth for Kevin

1036
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: Orris also for taking a chance on me back then,

1037
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: Chris Lepercura and then Joy Hirst for continuing to believe

1038
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: in me and invest in me over the last five years. Uh,

1039
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000
Speaker 1: it's like I said, it's been pretty crazy. You know.

1040
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: The coaches players, uh Let's Sneeed Sean McVay have been

1041
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: unbelievably kind, UM and you know it's gracious with their time.

1042
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:50,279
Speaker 1: And you know when you walk down the hall and

1043
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,839
Speaker 1: it happened today as I'm leaving the hotel and you

1044
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: see coach after coach, I'll say hi, and they're always

1045
00:49:57,400 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not gonna cry, at least I don't

1046
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 1: think I have. UM. But like I said that that's

1047
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,719
Speaker 1: been great, UM, and it's been great to be a

1048
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 1: part of that UM and I truly truly appreciate it.

1049
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 1: You know, fans, you guys have embraced me, and you

1050
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: know it's been great building that up over the last

1051
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: five years. And you know we talk about team mustard

1052
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,800
Speaker 1: and things like that and catch up certainly does not

1053
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 1: belong on a hot dog. But what would see your

1054
00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 1: face is being weird? Now you can't. I should have

1055
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: just turned your MinC off and I can't. Oh you're good,

1056
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: you're good, go ahead, But no, I mean I made

1057
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,479
Speaker 1: really amazing lifelong friends that you know, I've I read

1058
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: at weddings. As soon as you're gone, dude, you get

1059
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: hit by a bus. Hey, you're talking about that. We're

1060
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 1: talking about earlier anymore either, So yeah, I've read it

1061
00:50:46,560 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: people's weddings. I your biggest player, disappointment, my biggest players,

1062
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,759
Speaker 1: be honest. Yeah. I always was just talking to you.

1063
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 1: I remember three years ago we're out here and you're

1064
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: talking about he's the gto parked in the garage and

1065
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,040
Speaker 1: maybe this is maybe this is the year where the

1066
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:06,560
Speaker 1: engine gets round and round and round. What's what's the

1067
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: best moment in the worst moment, the best moment? Yeah, well,

1068
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: obviously the super Bowl, the yeah in New Orleans? Yeah, yeah,

1069
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,280
Speaker 1: And you know there is a picture of me hugging

1070
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 1: NIKEL Ruby Coleman in the locker room, hugging. Yes, we're

1071
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: trying to get him out of New Orleans. No, no,

1072
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: I was thanking him. Oh okay, don't put that in

1073
00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 1: New Orleans in here? Yeah yeah, so maybe i'll get

1074
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: that framed and uh, and I'll put it in my

1075
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: house somewhere. But the point, do you remember there have

1076
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: been plenty of little points on the time. What was

1077
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:38,160
Speaker 1: the lowest point? But I think I remember how low

1078
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: did we go when you when you took the job,

1079
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: well at four and twelve and twenty sixty and that

1080
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: was the one wow okay yeah yeah yeah yeah from

1081
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 1: there to hear how about that? Yeah? Yeah. Like I said,

1082
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,799
Speaker 1: the last two years have been incredible. And I think

1083
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: you know this is our ninety ninth podcast. Is we've

1084
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: done you know, ninety nine of these between you know you,

1085
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 1: me jb Um Serena has been involved a little bit

1086
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 1: as well. Yes, so it's great, um, but you know

1087
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:07,920
Speaker 1: I will say this to YouTube to we are going

1088
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: to get to you a hundred yeah, so maybe we'll

1089
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: have to handcuff you to the table perhaps. Yeah, I'm

1090
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: not done with you yet. Can I say what I

1091
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: want to say? No? Yeah, god, no, I start crying.

1092
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 1: I'm not you are You're just a crying. I would

1093
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: like to say something nice to start crying. Can I

1094
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: do that? Oh? God, no, I don't want anything nice.

1095
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: That's too bad. So when I was starting out in

1096
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:27,319
Speaker 1: this job twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, you know, we were

1097
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,600
Speaker 1: still in Saint Louis. You were doing the fast ling, right,

1098
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: So Fridays were the days that you would come to

1099
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 1: practice because that's when practice was early. And I love

1100
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,400
Speaker 1: Fridays because I knew that I was going to be

1101
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: able to talk to you and I was going to

1102
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: learn something about the game. So that's all you get. Then, No,

1103
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:45,279
Speaker 1: I'm not stop it. But when we came out here

1104
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: and then we got to start doing this podcast. This,

1105
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: this is being able to work with you and being

1106
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 1: able to do the things that we credit. I don't care.

1107
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,080
Speaker 1: I told you I'm gonna be self indulged, so I'm

1108
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:58,080
Speaker 1: gonna be banned as playing Miles. We got to go

1109
00:52:58,120 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: to commercial doing this. You're doing these things mailbag, pregame live.

1110
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: Doing that with you has been the great joy of

1111
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 1: my time working for the RAMS. So with that, we

1112
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: will say goodbye for episode the thank you. We will

1113
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Speaker 1: be back for episode one hundred. Thank you guys for listening.

1114
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Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed this edition of Between the Horns.

1115
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: If you come to training, can't make sure you stop

1116
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Speaker 1: by the session, I'm gonna say hi. We will be

1117
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Speaker 1: around and we will see you next time.