1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Meg 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: trend The Stallion trending for the wrong fucking reasons today, Yeah, 3 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: because fucking Drake for the right reasons from her perspectives, 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:21,600 Speaker 1: but for the wrong Yeah, but because the reasons were weird. Um, 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:23,759 Speaker 1: I thought, just look, we were, we had, we were 6 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 1: talking about this just right before we got off. Should 7 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: we just go ready? I am we should let the 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 1: people know first, of course, Damn, I am, I'm Jack. 9 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:39,720 Speaker 1: That is Miles and these well, these things that you're 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: about to hear us talk about right now, Well, these 11 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: are some things that are trending, yeah, on this Friday afternoon. Indeed, Yeah, 12 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: Drake's trending. Making the Stallion is trending. Yeah, the Drake 13 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 1: in twenty one Savage album came out, and there's this 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: track Circle Local on it where he's basically, I don't 15 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: even say the lyrics so he's calling her be word's 16 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: just nonsense. He's basically he's implying that Making the Stallion 17 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: was lying about being shot by Tory Lanes and and 18 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 1: the lyrics the bars are weak, like for week that 19 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, just for context, doesn't change anything, Like even 20 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: if they were great, it wouldn't change anything, but they're 21 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 1: they're tired. His dumb idea is spread is executed dumbly. Yeah, 22 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's I don't know. I mean, so there's 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: a there's another liney like comes at her for like 24 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:37,280 Speaker 1: going to college, although he he has like there's definitely 25 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: like Drake Bars where he talks about how he's like, yeah, 26 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: like what did Harvard gets you? But like I got 27 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: this type stuff. So I feel like he's like one 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: of those weird chips on his shoulder. And just the 29 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: rollout to the album was super weird, like he was 30 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: posting like HENTI porn on his fucking stories like before that, yes, 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: he thought he was like on some cool shit. It's 32 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: fucking weird. He doesn't even know Tory Lanes like that 33 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 1: they're not on a track together. Aside from you know, 34 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: I think many people rightly point out all this like 35 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: fucked up you know, massage, noir, black misogyny, bullshit, and 36 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: like on the heels of like that you were talking 37 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: about this one Instagram post, it's like rightly pointing out 38 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: like Takeoff was killed earlier this week due to gun 39 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 1: violence and then but yet making the stallion being shot 40 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: and some domestic violence. Ship is just like ha ha 41 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: hardy heart harsh it right, the fun this dude, So 42 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's also coming at Serena Williams 43 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: like husband and ship like, Drake's a fucking He's so 44 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: thirsty and it's just it's weird to just see all 45 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: this ship come out. You're like, this is such a 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: terrible look for you, sir, please, I mean creative bankstands 47 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:49,239 Speaker 1: somewhat uncomfortable. You know, he had a he had a 48 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: spark when he started, but now his ship's garbage. And 49 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: that's you know what when you are decent at first 50 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: and then you are at loews like this, you you 51 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,640 Speaker 1: kind of probably recognize a little bit that your ship 52 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: sucks and it's probably not fun. Sloppy sloppy. Yeah, he's 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: doing doing things for he's cloud chasing, which is yeah, 54 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: it's pathetic. Bad look there's and then Anna said she 55 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: was like a Zalea Banks we posted. She's like, I'm 56 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,639 Speaker 1: gonna ready to die Drake or some ship like some 57 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: and it's just yeah, I don't know. And you know, 58 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 1: Becca was pointing out to like his album sales, that 59 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: last album, the one that we it was so bad 60 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: we memory hold it. We were like yeah, we were like, wait, 61 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: so what was Drake's last album? You were like certified 62 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: lover Boy, and I was like, oh right, we're right, 63 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: the one with the pregnant women emojis on the cover, 64 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: That's right, that was Drake. Yeah, Drake's last album. And 65 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: we were as we memory hold a whole album. Yeah whatever, 66 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 1: never mind, Yeah, honestly never mind or whatever. The yeah, 67 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: honestly can't even. We said the title mirror moments ago 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: before we started recording, and it's because it's it's just 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: like I'm just depressed on board, you know, like whatever, 70 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm tired of this. Being famous sucks. You got your 71 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: child actors sucks. Yeah, speaking of sucks Twitter. So it's 72 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: like Twitter just over like that. That seems to be 73 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: it like that. There's been a lot of times when 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: people are like Twitter's over, right, but this feels like 75 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: real well, it's like they're like they're just tying, like 76 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 1: like untying the not in a balloon and letting all 77 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: the air out. You're like, this doesn't end. This doesn't 78 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: like end with the balloon getting bigger and then taking 79 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: us to space. It's going to turn into fucking trash, 80 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: like they got rid of all them, like moderation people 81 00:04:56,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: fired half the employees today. I don't know. I mean, 82 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 1: it's it, you can see. It just feels odd like 83 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: the algorithms constantly serve me, like they're like, oh, you 84 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: like the NBA and it's just like some weird anti 85 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: semitic ship like attached to Kyrie Irving's name, nothing really 86 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:17,880 Speaker 1: to do about basketball, Like I've the nature of like 87 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: how I'm even seeing topics is just really fucking all 88 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: over the place. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, I 89 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: don't know where people there's gonna be something. People are 90 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: gonna land somewhere else because platforms come and go all 91 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: the time. But I don't know this one is this 92 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 1: one has a very specific function though that I'm having 93 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: trouble being like, well, what's the sort of analog here? Yeah, 94 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: that's the thing. Like the standard response that I'm seeing 95 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: is whatever, It's not the end of the world, Like 96 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: this happens to social media networks. Twitter sucked, you hated 97 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: it all along, and like we're just going to move 98 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: on to the next one. And I do think it's 99 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: worth like at least acknowledging that there was like Twitter peek. 100 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Twitter was good at spreading ideas that you weren't going 101 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: to see elsewhere because we have a broken mainstream media 102 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: and like, you know, it has the lowest bear of 103 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: entry for people with ideas that they want to spread. 104 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: So like I do think, I don't know, like everyone 105 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: is just being like, yeah, we'll just go to TikTok. 106 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: It's like, well, but TikTok is like look presentable. It's 107 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: like a record of video. Yeah, you got like the yeah, 108 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: like it was people like do derisively called Twitter the 109 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:44,640 Speaker 1: Internet's comments section, and but like that is I think 110 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:48,840 Speaker 1: an important thing for something to fulfill is like having 111 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: a place where people who have things to say it 112 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: can go. And yeah, like any comments section, it needed 113 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: a healthy amount of moderation to keep it from being 114 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,480 Speaker 1: overruned by Nazis. And but that ship's all over, Like 115 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: any that's That's like I'm not confused about whether Twitter 116 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: is dead, because like any movement to just take the 117 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: you know, moderation away from Twitter is going to go 118 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: very very badly. We're looking at like two versions right. 119 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 1: One is we're seeing what happens when someone fires half 120 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: the staff at a social media platform. Right, Yeah, they're 121 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,239 Speaker 1: already drastically understaffed to begin with. That's the whole problem. 122 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: And then the others like we're watching this other bigger story, 123 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: which is Elon Musk realizing what the fun Twitter even 124 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: is as a business and like not knowing what to 125 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: fucking do, and it's causing more chaos because he's like 126 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 1: posting conspiracy theories or just like now, like begging people 127 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: like from like eight dollars is cool. You know, Alexandro 128 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: Casio Cortez has a fifty eight dollar hoodie she sells, 129 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: so huh. And I was like this, then what the 130 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: fund are you saying? Yeah? Um, but it's I mean, 131 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: as most people look at the financials or like the 132 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: amount of money that has to be made is like absurd. 133 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: And when you couple that with the fact that you're 134 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: saying like, well, I don't want to I want free speech, 135 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: so I don't want to be a safe place for 136 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 1: advertisers to come. But it I don't have revenue coming in. 137 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I don't you need like millions of people like on 138 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: day one to be like, yeah, give me my check mark. Yeah, 139 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: And it just feels weird to me. To not more 140 00:08:28,280 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: like just very big picture. We're losing something that was 141 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: at the very least very entertaining. Like I think it 142 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: was toxic in many circumstances and like to put too 143 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,319 Speaker 1: much of your life into it. Was definitely toxic, but 144 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: like could be very useful. Was like how a lot 145 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: of good writers got discovered. Um was how I found 146 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: a lot of like interesting ideas. Uh, And it is 147 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: we're losing it to Nazi straight up, Like that's that's 148 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: an L. Like we can we can acknowledge that an L. 149 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: We don't have to be like yeah, well whatever, Tumbler 150 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: died and we just moved on, you know it. It's 151 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 1: said where things are bad, like I guess the only 152 00:09:09,480 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: bright spot is inevitably another thing comes that people will 153 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: find the same way to express their ideas. But I 154 00:09:17,000 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: mean that is it's weird because on TikTok you can 155 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: find stuff like that too, but it's so highly produced. 156 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: That's sort of the difference is the time it takes. 157 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 1: But I don't know, I might be speaking about like 158 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 1: an older person who takes yeah yeah back when I 159 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 1: was in final cut. Yeah. It might just be like 160 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 1: people over forty who are not TikTok literate and you know, 161 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: are are not going to learn how to use TikTok. 162 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: That that might be the only people who are affected. 163 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 1: In which case great, like everything moves to TikTok, will 164 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: move over to TikTok and find interesting ideas. Yeah, and 165 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: ran by another government whatever cares um they let us 166 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: talk to you about our government though on there. Yeah 167 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: we uh so Kyrie got suspended for five games um 168 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: by the NETS for not taking the opportunity to like 169 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: out when given the opportunity, didn't take the opportunity to 170 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: I think say what he would agreed he would say 171 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: when in kind of negotiations with the NETS, which is 172 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: that you know, to denounce anti semitism and hate speech. 173 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: It felt like a strong move until the end when 174 00:10:23,240 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: they were like, and that is why we are suspending 175 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 1: him for five games without pay. I'm sure they're legalities, 176 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: but just ideally they should have just cut his ass 177 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: because now it's like he leaves it a conversation where 178 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: he now has the opportunity to like act like he's 179 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:46,439 Speaker 1: standing on principle for this ship and like, I don't know, 180 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's like a good resolution to 181 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: this situation. But just because for people who are so 182 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,800 Speaker 1: hell bent on staying conspiracy world, any any amount of 183 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: accountability will feed or re enforced the idea that they're 184 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: what they believe in is true, you know, because that's 185 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: just how this ship is. Like would no matter what 186 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: ship you're into, you're like, see and why would they 187 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,839 Speaker 1: do that unless it wasn't a threat or whatever. I 188 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: I I see so many takes of like just all 189 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: kinds of excusing his ship. It hasn't This guy is 190 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 1: absolutely not like he posted this documentary that is if 191 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: you just watch your like, well that's some fucking problematic 192 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: ship if you even want to be charitable with that word. 193 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of anti Semitic nonsense in it. 194 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 1: But all that to say is I see a lot 195 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 1: of people say, well, how come, like this isn't fair. 196 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: People need to be going after Amazon. They actually should 197 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: be going after Amazon too. You're right, because this Amazon 198 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,959 Speaker 1: is an absolute fucking cess pit of bullshit like that, 199 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 1: whether it's that kind of stuff, election denial cut like, 200 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 1: there's there's all kinds of terrible uh content on Amazon, 201 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: and yeah they're there. There should to be some some 202 00:12:00,880 --> 00:12:03,839 Speaker 1: answers there but the fact remains that for someone in 203 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: that position to go and just sort of be like, 204 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 1: not really accurately articulate why he's even sharing something, just 205 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: like posting it, and they'd be like, and now everyone's 206 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 1: laying they're trying to say he got he's getting fucking 207 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: punished for posting a link. Right. That's a really really 208 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 1: overly simplified way to describe that, especially because we're in 209 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: a fucking really weird time right now where there's so 210 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: much hatred bubbling up that like any attempt to like 211 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: normalize it is it's too it's at our own detriment yum. 212 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: And yeah, so it's fucking frightening. But yeah, I mean 213 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: this is happening as the Kanye things happening. Yeah, it's 214 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: it's really scary and very frustrating that this is now 215 00:12:54,800 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 1: being turned into a like I stand with Kyrie thing. Um. Yeah, 216 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: the quick tip, don't you don't need to? Yeah, he 217 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: can support himself and he made his own decisions and 218 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: they're they're bad ones. All right, let's take a quick break. 219 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: We'll be right back, and we're back, and we we 220 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:27,679 Speaker 1: loved having a guest on trends the other day for Halloween. 221 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: So we're we're doing it again, baby, Geo TV Weekend, 222 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: y'all get out the vote. I wanted to bring in 223 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 1: actually one of my really good friends who also happens 224 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 1: to be the director of organizing for the United Way 225 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 1: l A. Mike Dentist is here because there's uh, like 226 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:52,560 Speaker 1: you said, my dentist, so I just don't yes, yes, yes, yes, Uh. 227 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: You know also talented photographer. Uh, Mike, welcome to the show. Uh. 228 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 1: I wanted to have you on because you know l A. 229 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a decent amount of Angelinos that 230 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: listened to the show. But Measure U l A is 231 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 1: a campaign you're working on, and I've noticed there's so 232 00:14:08,360 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: much opposition to one of the most simple fucking measures 233 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 1: I've ever seen that I can't believe it. So for 234 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: those that don't know uh and are voting in l A, 235 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: Measure U l A is basically a mansion tax ye 236 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: to tax properties that are over five million dollars to 237 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: help address what Mike, homelessness. Baby, it's actually it's actually 238 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: all about homelessess prevention. Because we've been we've spent the 239 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 1: last you know, ten years in the city in the 240 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 1: County of l A putting a lot of money into 241 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: production of new affordable housing, but there hasn't been and 242 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of talk of it, especially during 243 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 1: the pandemic, but there hasn't been any real efforts and 244 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 1: dollars put behind like homelessess prevention stabilizing UH, people that 245 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: are outlives at risk of losing their their apartments, seniors 246 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: living on s s I. The inflow into homelessness is 247 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: outpacing the out the the amount of folks that are 248 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 1: getting out of homelessness every day, and so we're sort 249 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: of running up on you know, in the red oh, right, 250 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: So this is a really vital measure to say, Okay, 251 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: not only do we have to meet people on the 252 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: other side of it, but try and prevent as many 253 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: people from even experiencing homelessness. And it seems like a 254 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: lot of the spending on like building housing for you know, 255 00:15:26,080 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: people in need is very piecemeal at this point. And 256 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,080 Speaker 1: like this the thing that this would change that would 257 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: give a steady like stream of income for like addressing 258 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: that problem, which is something we you know, we talked 259 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 1: to Nittia Rahman about like that being a thing that 260 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: just needs needs that steady stream, right. Yeah. I mean 261 00:15:50,560 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of one time funding measures. Probably 262 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: folks remember a triple H in the City of l 263 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 1: a R. I think it was. You know those those 264 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: a one time you know, billion plus dollar pot of 265 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 1: money that was that was basically borrowed to to help 266 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 1: pump capital into brick and mortar construction for new affordable housing, 267 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: specifically permanent supportive But you know, we've burned through that 268 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: really quickly for a number of reasons. The cost of 269 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 1: construction is really high, the amount of the amount of 270 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: power that are mostly corrupt local city council members have 271 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: over projects in their districts, increases the costs of per 272 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: door because it just takes forever for things to get 273 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: to go online and pencil out. And so we've had 274 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,280 Speaker 1: these like one time, you know, rough shot attempts at 275 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 1: doing stuff. We don't have dedicated funding. There's no dedicated 276 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: revenue in the City of l a for this. There's 277 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: at the county we have measure age, which is you know, 278 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: it's a sales tax um and that pays for um. 279 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: You know, that pays for a bunch of different homeless 280 00:16:58,520 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 1: services across the county. But you know the city of 281 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: Valley has the lions share people that are on house 282 00:17:05,680 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: and so we need we need our own tools to 283 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: be able to fund new construction, uh and do homelessess prevention, 284 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: stabilized rents, renter protections, etcetera. And the way this, the 285 00:17:15,960 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: way this works is it's it's a tax on property 286 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 1: sales of five million or more. So the opposition right 287 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 1: now spent as of as of yesterday, six point six 288 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 1: million against us to try to kill this thing. And 289 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: and that's a loose concerts And I'm guessing that's an 290 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: upstanding group of concerned local citizens, business interests, right, upstanding 291 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: group of ship heads. Yes, Like what is it? Isn't 292 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: it like landlords? Like what groups is it? It's just 293 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:50,600 Speaker 1: it's just crazy. We have folks, well number one, you know, Republicans. 294 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: Let's just say that we got we got Republican consultants. 295 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 1: We've got folks that you know, former director of Government 296 00:17:57,200 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: Affairs for Philip Morris small wrong. You know, I'm a smoker, 297 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: but I don't support the smoking industry. I do just 298 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,879 Speaker 1: want to jump in and say, like for you know, 299 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: listeners outside of l A, like I think this is 300 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: like really important to everyone, because this is like, this 301 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: is such a clear cut example of okay, this this 302 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:23,120 Speaker 1: law affects the richest two to one percent of Angelino's 303 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: and yet like it is pulling, it's trending towards like 304 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: actually not going. And so how does something like that 305 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 1: happen where the richest one percent are able to message 306 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: some bullshit that is going to help your city, help 307 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: the people around you who are much closer to you 308 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,920 Speaker 1: and your life. How does that not pass when it's 309 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: only in the interest of the one percent and two percent. 310 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: So I think I think this is like a good 311 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: kind of peak inside of of how that operates. Well, 312 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 1: ye know, myles, you'll remember this. We uh, we did 313 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: a renewable energy campaign many many years ago, and it was, 314 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, essentially was the proposition was to increase the 315 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 1: number of renewable sources in the state's portfolio. And the 316 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 1: utility companies came out and said, fuck you guys, uh, 317 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna pass these onto the rape pairs. We can't 318 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: sustain this type of growth, blah blah blah blah blah, 319 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 1: And so people fell for it. People fall for that 320 00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:24,920 Speaker 1: argument over and over again. They're doing the same thing here, 321 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: they're saying, basically, and it's the Realtors Association, the California 322 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: State Realtors, the National Realtors Association just put in a 323 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: million bucks last week. They're basically saying, if you do this, yeah, 324 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 1: the Business round Table, if you do this, we're gonna 325 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:44,640 Speaker 1: pass all of these fees onto tenants. Right. That's that's 326 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:49,040 Speaker 1: how they're scaring people. And unfortunately, you know, people people 327 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: fall victim of this messaging. They see these crazy TV 328 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 1: ads that say your rents are gonna go up. We're 329 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,120 Speaker 1: already in a rental crisis. We can't we can't sustain 330 00:19:57,320 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: this type of another type of texts, just another tax baby, 331 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: that's it's. And so they're spending six million to blow 332 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: U l A out with their air war and stuff 333 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: in print. I'm guessing the United Way or the campaign 334 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 1: that's supporting ul A has spent also, maybe double that, 335 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, right. Oh yeah, you know we're swimming in 336 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: cash over here. Um no, I mean, we've we've raised uh, 337 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what our numbers are today, but we're 338 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: you know, we're not terribly outspent, but we're definitely getting 339 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 1: clovered on TV. And so you know our power right now, 340 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 1: as you guys know, you talked to many of my 341 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: friends that we have people power, right. Don't say we've 342 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: got a lot of bodies on the ground that get 343 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: that are directly impacted by these people that have lived 344 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: experience of two organizations that have endorsed the campaign. We've 345 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: got a field operation that's really leaning on all of 346 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,320 Speaker 1: them to do the voter engagement work because we don't 347 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: have TV ads. So you know, I think the biggest 348 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: thing that Peter listeners can do right now is sign 349 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: up for a phone bank. You have if you have 350 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: an hour to spare, uh and you are on zoom already, 351 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: don't lie. Just just log onto our zoom and make 352 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:10,679 Speaker 1: some calls to voters now. It's easy. The other thing 353 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: that you can do is if you really hate talking 354 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: to people, you can text. We text thousands of voters 355 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 1: every day. There's a younger you know, there's a younger 356 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 1: block of of of millennial voters that only do texting. 357 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. I don't like taking phone calls anymore. 358 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: So you have never done. Yeah, they didn't even know 359 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 1: their phones operated that way. They didn't know you could 360 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:35,560 Speaker 1: speak into it like you used to be used to 361 00:21:35,600 --> 00:21:38,120 Speaker 1: be such a monster on call. Fire dude, back when 362 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,360 Speaker 1: we're all right, when things are different. God, dude, thanks 363 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: so much for yeah, oh dope, well, thanks so much 364 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 1: for stopping by, man, and I mean, any any last words, 365 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: because you're you do a lot of great work, whether 366 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: it's been with like vendor like street vendors, or working 367 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: with the in housed, or doing making sure like the 368 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: their proper counts downe of the in housed, just anything 369 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: that you just want to say to people who are 370 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 1: like minded and wanting to just generally put their mind 371 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: in the right direction right now. Yeah, I mean, I 372 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: think the one thing I'd say is homes and homelessness. 373 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 1: There's no other way around this, right, Like, we can't 374 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,639 Speaker 1: sweep people away, we can't move them around. It costs 375 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 1: everybody in the long run. It's it's dehumanizing for the 376 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 1: people that are experiencing it, but you know for everybody else. 377 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: If you only care about taxes and you know, government 378 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: efficacy and all that, ship, Um, it's a bad system 379 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: we have. Or we just move people around, we absorbed 380 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: them into the you know, to the first responder system, 381 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 1: and they're back or in the jail system, then they're 382 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 1: back out on the street. We need to get people 383 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 1: off the streets and in the permanent housing. And the 384 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: only way we're gonna do it is we've gotta we 385 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: got to spend money to do it. Um. And there 386 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: are way too many people out there that are trading 387 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:55,719 Speaker 1: their houses like pokemon cards, um, and they're very threatened 388 00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 1: by this ship. And you know that says a lot. 389 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: You know, they've they've they've done nothing thing to help 390 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: the situation. And we got Gwyneth Paltrow out there supporting 391 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: Rick Caruso, and you know that's the type of folks 392 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: we're talking about here. So you know, I just hope 393 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,119 Speaker 1: that everybody wakes up and get get out there and 394 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: vote yes on ul A. Yeah, Rick Caruso and Karen 395 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: Bass both neither candidate has supported the measure, according to 396 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 1: the l A Times. Has Karen Bass changed on that 397 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: or she's still not a jack? You know, you know 398 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,360 Speaker 1: how they were? They wait, They like to wait till 399 00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: the last minute. It really is is it just the 400 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: real estate is like the most powerful industry in Los 401 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: Angeles and that's that's where that's where the money comes from. 402 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: And so they know they can't cross that. I mean, 403 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: I think what it is is I mean, for Rick, 404 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,280 Speaker 1: it's it's simple. I think he just is diametrically and 405 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:57,359 Speaker 1: philosophically opposed his business, you know, the strategy. But you know, 406 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 1: for Karen and others, I think anybody that's running for 407 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: mayor in the City of l A knows that once 408 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,400 Speaker 1: you get in there, you have actually very little power 409 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 1: to do anything. The council controls everything. You know, you 410 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: get to sign the you get to sign stuff in 411 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: the law, and you get to propose budgets. But you know, 412 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,120 Speaker 1: there's yeah, cut ribbons. Maybe that's it. And I think 413 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 1: that I think that both of them know that they've 414 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: got to be careful of what they promised because once 415 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 1: they get in there, they're gonna get they're gonna get 416 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: hit with a pretty cold reality. Um. You know. And 417 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: and again it goes back to not having resources for 418 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: to like fund the solutions we know work like permanent 419 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: housing and services, um. And then and then dealing with 420 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:42,359 Speaker 1: city council that has extreme local control over what's built 421 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: and what isn't. And we've had just very sluggish progress 422 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: on this stuff and a lot of lip service. So 423 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: I think I think it's just caution. And I hope, 424 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, I hope whoever ends up winning, you know, 425 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,480 Speaker 1: I hope they get get their sleeves rolled up and 426 00:24:57,280 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 1: get out there and do uh, do the things they 427 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:02,280 Speaker 1: gotta get done. They both talk about affordable housing production, 428 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,879 Speaker 1: but they don't get very specific, so they have no 429 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: money for like in their plan to actually fund affordable housing. 430 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: And when they're talking about, oh, we're gonna do forty 431 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: million here, forty million there, it's like that's gonna pay 432 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: for we need we need like five homes in La 433 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 1: County tomorrow. Yeah, well, thank you so much for coming on. Man. Absolutely, guys, 434 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: we'll catch all, yeah for sure. Man. Alright, well, those 435 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: are some of the things that are trending on this 436 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Friday afternoon. We are back on Monday with a whole 437 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to 438 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, get 439 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: the flu shot, go out and vote, vote early, and 440 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:56,159 Speaker 1: vote yes on you l United l A, and we 441 00:25:56,320 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: will talk to you all on Monday. It is Statists