1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: Hello, I'm the ghost of the Queen and this is 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: assassination week, and whose I actually was assassinated? It was 3 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: the I R A. Hi, welcome, welcome to assassination week, 4 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: where we talk about all of the normal things. That's 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 1: what we do. We talk about all the stuff that's 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: totally normal and chill. We were just we were just 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: debating why we keep having to talk about Nazi furries, 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: differences between catboys and cat girls as they relate to Nazism, Um, 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: and we're not going to get less stupid for today's 10 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: assassination Um. So let's let's talk about Argentina. UH, one 11 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: of one are the ones that happened pretty shortly after 12 00:00:48,080 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: we we planned on doing assassination week. We're like, well, 13 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: there's another one to add to the list. So, yeah, 14 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Christina Fernandez de Kirchner has been kind of one of 15 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: the most prominent politicians in Argentina for almost two decades now. Um, 16 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: she was elected, after she was elected president after her 17 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: husband served as a term and then declined to to 18 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:14,520 Speaker 1: run for a second. But she was liked in two 19 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: US and seven. After an eight year run as president, 20 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: she's now the country's vice president. She was expected to 21 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 1: make a bid to return to the top job next year. 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,720 Speaker 1: That's kind of up in the air. Um, she's kind 23 00:01:27,760 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: of left dish. She's kind of the populist, like leftist, 24 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: kind of talked a bit about perronism and like the 25 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: weird ship that's going on here. Please talk about maybe 26 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: do it in the in the music of Andrew Lloyd Webber. 27 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh God, no. Okay, so there once was a man 28 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: named prone and he so she had been like he 29 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: there's a whole thing. He gets like coude, he's like, 30 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: I feel like flees the country and while he's not, 31 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: and you know, this is a Tatorship, and like wh 32 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:09,359 Speaker 1: while he's not in Argentina, there's like this whole like 33 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: like if they're a very classical populace movement, to the 34 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: point where, like a lot of the theorizing about what 35 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:17,679 Speaker 1: populism is is theorizing about Perronism, and what you get 36 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: is like two completely different like political factions, like casting 37 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: all of the sort of aspirations onto the like, like 38 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 1: like onto the figure of like Perrone, who's like in exile, 39 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: and so you can you can like, you know, you can, 40 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: you can say that like Perrone has whatever two. Perrone 41 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: supports us, like perome will be the guy, you'll save us, 42 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 1: and like. So you get, like you get this really 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 1: weird thing where they were like they were like there 44 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: are Peronas who are like fascists, there are Peronis who 45 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: are like communists. So you get the split that happens. 46 00:02:42,880 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: You have these left Pronois, have these right Peroronius, like 47 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: like when perrone comes back to the country, like the 48 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 1: right Peronas start murdering the left wing Peroni is. It's 49 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 1: this whole fucking thing and it's this you know, and uh, this, 50 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: this this sort of like political formation like persists, you 51 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: in ever military tatorship. It persists like through sort of 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: like the trend, quote unquote, transition to democracy, and like 53 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:13,360 Speaker 1: basically everyone who has rand Argentina since like the quote 54 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: unquote transition to democracy has been a paronhist of some kind. Um, 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: Chrishnai is, the Krishner is from the left wing, sort 56 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:26,400 Speaker 1: of the newly sort of like revitalized left, like paroonism 57 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: that comes around like the early two thousands. I mean 58 00:03:28,240 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: she she's around. She's around actually in the nineties too, 59 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: but in early two thousand's it's sort of like okay, 60 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: so in two thousand one, there's this massive series of 61 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: protests and uprisings in in Argentina that, like I I 62 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: would argue, is like the last of like the Great 63 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Twentieth Century, sort of like working class revolutions, like people 64 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: started occupying, like people are occupying their factories. Like did 65 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: they go through like five prime ministers in like a month? 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: Like they they come very, very, very close to bringing 67 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: down the government. And the thing that, the thing that 68 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: sort of mobilized situation is a the and this is 69 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: this is a reason protest against like I'm a posterity right, 70 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 1: which would be just like destroying the country. And the 71 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: way this sort of gets stabilized is that, Um, you, 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: you get a new you know, you, you, you, you 73 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: get a new, sort of like revitalized, like left, perroneous 74 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: populist thing. And this, the sort of populist deal is 75 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,599 Speaker 1: is twofold. It's like one, okay, we're gonna have a 76 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: bunch of patrons networks and we're gonna run like everything 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 1: from like sort of like job networks kind of like down, 78 00:04:28,839 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: like right right down to like hey, we will like 79 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 1: give a dear neighborhood as long as you stay as 80 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: long as you sort of supported. So the second thing is, 81 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: like they make that like the ruling class like cuts 82 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:41,560 Speaker 1: this sort and this is this is particularly like Fernandando Christian, 83 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: like her husband's like cuts this deal. Basically, sorry, Nestor Kristner, 84 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: cuts this deal with with the working class, which is 85 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: like okay, if you guys don't if you guys stop 86 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: trying to overthrow us, like, we will give you a 87 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: bunch of welfare programs, we will like do a bunch 88 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: of stuff to like promote it the sort of like 89 00:04:57,360 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: national economy, and so that it's it's this, it's this 90 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:02,280 Speaker 1: whole it's it's looks like a left populism, but it's 91 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: it's it's built on sort of like like this very 92 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: explicit like we are going to buy off the working class. 93 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: We can maintain capitalism, but the capitalism is gonna be 94 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: slightly nicer. Yeah, and there's a few reactions that, including 95 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: the reaction from the right, which is very much like 96 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 1: these wealth help these all of these welfare programs are 97 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: making people lazy and unwilling to do actual work, which 98 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: is kind of worth some of our assassin, or attempted assassin, 99 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:29,200 Speaker 1: gets some of his ideology from Um. But yeah, so, 100 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: a week before this assassination attemptum Argentine and prosecutors announced 101 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: that they're seeking a twelve year person sentence for Mrs 102 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: Kirchner over accusations that she directed public roadway funds to 103 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 1: a company owned by a friend of hers, accusations which 104 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 1: she denies. I don't I have no bid in this fight, um, 105 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: but I mean the thing I would note is, like, 106 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: like almost everyone, so she she like well, particularly Christ, 107 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: but she was also of considered like the soft wing 108 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 1: of the pink tide, sort of like social democratic governments 109 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: to con part this period. And like all of these 110 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,160 Speaker 1: people are kind of corrupt, but they're not like more 111 00:06:08,160 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: corrupt than any other like politician in this region. But like, 112 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 1: like every single one of these people eventually, like there's 113 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: a whole movement to put them in prison because of 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: corruption or something, and it's like, I mean, I don't know, 115 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 1: like every like they're politicians, like what do you expect? 116 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:30,359 Speaker 1: Like the political rhetoric against Mrs Kirchner had intensified in 117 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: recent weeks amid the final stages of her corruption trial, 118 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: and while she is probably the country's most prominent politician, 119 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:42,160 Speaker 1: even serving as vice president, seen as more powerful than 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: then the president. She's also a very polarizing figure. You know, 121 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,119 Speaker 1: her face is plastered on posters all around, like working 122 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: class neighborhoods. Um, but Argentina's right has kind of made 123 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 1: her out to be their boogie man. She's kind of 124 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: their like, she's kind of like their top target. Um, 125 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: last week in one opposition lawmaker commenting on her case 126 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: said that Argentina shouldn't bring back the death penalty, Um, 127 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: just for her case, just because she's like a woman 128 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: we don't like, so we should kill her. As I 129 00:07:12,520 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: got friends at the Written House Cultural Center. Yeah, would 130 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: you call her a Femi Bolshy? UH, because so. Yeah, 131 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: but since the proposition of the twelve year sentence, hundreds 132 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: of her supporters have been rallying, or were rallying, outside 133 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 1: of her house every night, Um, you know, calling her 134 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 1: a victim of political persecution and doing these big, big 135 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,679 Speaker 1: rallies in support. And it was at such a rally 136 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: on Thursday September one, just after nine PM, when Mrs 137 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: Kirchner was returning home from presiding over a session at 138 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 1: the Senate, accompanied by her security detail. She was greeting 139 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: the massive supporters letting the streets and signing copies of 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,080 Speaker 1: her book, and then a man rushed up through the crowd, 141 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: aimed a semi automatic pistol interest away from her face 142 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: and pulled the trigger, but the gun didn't go off. 143 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: There's lots of footage of this incident. There was a 144 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: lot of canvas rolling. It's kind of wild because she 145 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: sticks the gun like right up in her face. It's 146 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: just like really, really like this. This is this is, 147 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: this is like something out of like fucking like like 148 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: late Russia. It's extreme, it's very slapstick, it's very comical. Yeah, 149 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: the Franch Ferdinand level of well, speaking speaking of President, 150 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: President Um Fernandez said in an address to the nation 151 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 1: later that quote. Christina still alive because, for reasons that 152 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: have not been confirmed technically, the weapon, which was loaded 153 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: with five bullets, did not fire. I can confirmed technically. 154 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: It is a piece of shit. You can find it was. 155 00:08:57,800 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 1: It was a thirty. It was a thirty two, caliber 156 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: three eight, wasn't it? It's a burst of thunder, isn't it? Oh, 157 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: maybe I'm wrong. What wasn't it was? Was Isn't it? 158 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: Like a specific gun? That's like absolutely, like they're kind 159 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: of funny. They're these like they're Bursa, so that I 160 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: think they're made in Argentina. They might be made in Brazil. 161 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: I think they made Argentina. They make knockoffs of other 162 00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: gun designs, more or less. So it's in the style 163 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: of a PPK, which has good precedent for killing bad people. 164 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: That's what hit the brained himself with. But this, this 165 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: is a knockoff. This is a cheap one. It's one 166 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: of the guns. It's approved for safe sail in California 167 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:42,520 Speaker 1: because it doesn't get bang, at least a version of this. 168 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: I don't think the one that that this person used 169 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: is actually a thunder but yeah, it's just it's like, 170 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 1: I don't know, it's it's the it's like when you 171 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: go and buy a cheap knockoff of anything you know, 172 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 1: like etime it doesn't work. This one appasts be missing 173 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:58,319 Speaker 1: one of the grip screws actually, but yeah, it's very rusty. 174 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: This person didn't history very well. I guess it's what 175 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: we'll talk we'll talk a bit more about what was 176 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: going on with a gun in a sack. You know what? 177 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 1: I won't failed to men at the vice president of 178 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: the country. These these products and series products before the podcast. 179 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: That's what it's what everyone says about butter. Help, will, 180 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: will help you killed the vice president. Okay, said plug 181 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: for ammonium nitrate. Federal Police arrested Fernando Andre's Sabag Montiel, 182 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: a thirty five year old Brazilian man who has been 183 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: living in Argentina for about twenty years. They recover the 184 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: gun at the scene and then the next day they 185 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: searched his apartment. He had a hit at a studio 186 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: apartment in like a working class suburb of Oh boy, 187 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:06,080 Speaker 1: what's boy, Um Banarosh boy, I want to send this 188 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: one to the chat let. Someone else said to Spanish 189 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 1: and sort of speaking, it's a boot. There we go. 190 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: I sent it to the regular cool zone. Okay, no, 191 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 1: that wasn'ton. I can't. I can't read that. I have 192 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: no idea. Is that. It's a capital. I don't know. 193 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: I can't read it. I only I never say words, 194 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: I only read it. Yeah, yeahs Buenos Buenos. I'm learning 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: how to read ancient Greek for magic, and that's way 196 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: easier than this. I was quibbled back. Are you going 197 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: to be like a Hebrew understander on twitter. Are you 198 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: gonna be like it means legal immigrants when he says that, guys, no, only, only, 199 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 1: only for ancient Greek, only only for Greeks to use, 200 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: to use in spells. And I forget that people who 201 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: aren't Americans don't pick up the sort of like smattering 202 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: of terrible Spanish that like, everyone in the US can 203 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: kind of do. Yeah, no, I I grew up as 204 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,960 Speaker 1: a kind in Saskatchewan. No one's going to speak Spanish. 205 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: They're just food nowns. You can you can just do 206 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: like and but anyway. So they searched his studio apartment 207 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: in apparently this big town point, what Tuenos Aires? Right, 208 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: this is but it's fine. But Anyway, they searched his apartment. 209 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: They found just a hundred bullets just around, just like 210 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: in various places, or like they said, they just found 211 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: a hundred bullets like like around his studio apartment. So 212 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: that's that's that's the statement. It's amazing people haven't voiced 213 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: a video and highly recommend looking it up. So Mr 214 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: Montell is registered with tax authorities as an uber driver Um, 215 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: and he's not. Pretty soon people figured out that he's 216 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: not just a regular dude. Um, there was, there's. There 217 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: was a few signs, most most notably the sun and 218 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: Red Tattoo on his elbow. That'll do it. So Which? Yeah, 219 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: Battalion Logo, right, James, shut the funk up. Shut the 220 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: funk up, James. So, yes, a wave of people who 221 00:13:39,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: think they're smart but are actually not, saw the SNA 222 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: red and thought that he was doing this in solidarity 223 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: with the Asaf Battalion. Um, isn't he like in a 224 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:56,319 Speaker 1: Duke and his group? I'll get to it. Not Quite, Um, 225 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: but no, it's not as off battalion because the San 226 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: and red does not come from the as off battalion. Um, 227 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 1: as most people listening to this show should probably know already, 228 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: his social media accounts got taken down pretty quick, but 229 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: we do have a few archives which I'll be working 230 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 1: off of to kind of paint the rest of this 231 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: weird guy's picture. Um, he is steeped in a whole 232 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: bunch of ECLECTIC and esoteric things. He has various esoteric 233 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 1: symbols tattooed across his body. He follows a lot of 234 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: extremely interesting facebook pages. Um, he is. He is, you know, 235 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: is interested in stuff from far right groups, conspiracy theories, mysticism, freemasonry, Um, 236 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: quote unquote, alchemy and the Cabala or again, quote unquote, 237 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: the Cabala um across many, many kind of political, esoteric 238 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: fascist interests. It's kind of it's not very surprising. By 239 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 1: the way, I just found out the there's a whole 240 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: page by that Caliboriscurrey guy and you were right and 241 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 1: I was wrong. It's a thirty two a CP bastel. 242 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you, thank you. It wasn't thirty two 243 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: C Huh. Wow. Yeah, maybe if you spent less time 244 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: making fun of my Spanish we can learn something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 245 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't think in terms of levels of understanding. Yeah, 246 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: for a while he used the symbol of the tyrontal 247 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: order of the nights, which was a fringe kind of 248 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: far right Argentine fascist mystical group from the nineteen eighties. 249 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: But he had that as his facebook profile for a while. 250 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: So he's like into the worst type of nerd things, like, 251 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: instead of just playing D and D and getting it 252 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: out of your system, he's like, I'm going to become 253 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: a fascist and a wizard. You know, if he'd had 254 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: a cultural center where he could play Dn d with 255 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:54,040 Speaker 1: other people just saying talk, talk, Talk About Dragon Ball, 256 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: play D and d yeah, do some really, really bad 257 00:15:58,200 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 1: figure painting. Do do anyway, wouldn't have had a problem here, 258 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: but instead here we are. So would be like looking 259 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 1: at his facebook page right you see stuff about like paganism, 260 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: Viking death metal, not very good philosophers. These types of 261 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: things don't immediately indicate a connection to the far right. 262 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: Like you can't just take them by themselves, but when 263 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: taken all together with the much more avert political things, 264 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: you can get a fuller picture of who this person 265 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: actually is. Um, you know, it's like when I when 266 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: I'm when I'm walking down the street and I see 267 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: someone inside like a half skull mask, that doesn't immediately 268 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: mean they're Nazi. But if I see the half skull 269 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: mask and then's some questionable tattoos, I'm like, okay, then 270 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: that that that then you're able to put that together. Um. 271 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: So the same thing with here. Right, when someone's really 272 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: into like Pagan Viking Shit, it may make me side 273 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 1: eye until I see some things that really confirm my suspicions. 274 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna you know, you know, talking to this 275 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:56,880 Speaker 1: person as if they are a Nazi. Uh, this guy 276 00:16:57,120 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: is a Nazi. He is big, old not see. A 277 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: few extremism researchers in Argentina have kind of made statements 278 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: about this guy and what they're they're take on it 279 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: is as someone you know who actually is in Argentina right, 280 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm an extremism researcher who lives in Oregon, which as 281 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 1: I and so I don't really have the same cultural understanding. 282 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: You have a good grasp of the language, which is 283 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: how I have a good class on the language. When 284 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: they're using magic words, when they're using words from real language, 285 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: is not really Um. But no, they they, they've they've 286 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,680 Speaker 1: talked about him like saying, uh, they're not. This dude is, quote, 287 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: not explicitly connected to an organization, but they relate to 288 00:17:38,320 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: the fascist ideology and compared him to kind of being 289 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 1: the the types of, quote unquote, like Lone Wolf attackers 290 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: that are not connected to any like specific political movement, 291 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 1: but almost just like an emanation of political ideas online, 292 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: like in a Christ church, Buffalo and El Paso. Those 293 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: were the places that that he was kind of compared to. 294 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: Is like people who aren't like inside a group but 295 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,960 Speaker 1: are willing to go out and take politics into the 296 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: real world. But yeah, they compared his profile to other 297 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: other types of like, you know, like load, quote Unquote 298 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: Lone Wolf, which is not a good term, but like 299 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: what that means is like as someone who's like isolated, 300 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: doing a mass shooting or a terrorist attack or an 301 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: attempted a political assassination. Montel was described, as his friends, 302 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: as like eccentric and insecure and dishonest, um, but not 303 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: necessarily openly violent or kind of openly invested in like 304 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:40,200 Speaker 1: political parties, which isn't surprising. When you get someone into 305 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: this like nerdy type of politics, that's like yeah, they're 306 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: doing politics as it relates to being like a weird 307 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: nerd online. But you know, who knows his his friends 308 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 1: made us not not seeing this side of him at all. 309 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: Like who, who can? Who can say? Because he did 310 00:18:55,440 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: have a lot of fascist tattoos. So like, like come on, guys, Um, 311 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: on the he had like, like we said, son and 312 00:19:03,440 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: red on his left elbow. On the back of his 313 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: hands he had a he had the iron cross and 314 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: he had thor's hammer, but like like the like the 315 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 1: traditional one, not like marvel movie shit. In a funny 316 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: maybe coincidence this guy, the assassin, was actually interviewed twice 317 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: on television in like months before the attack, just as 318 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: an average citizen on the street giving his opinion on politics. Um. 319 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: One of them, he they were he was interviewed with 320 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:39,959 Speaker 1: his girlfriend and they were complaining about Argentina's social welfare programs, 321 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: saying that they make people lazy. Um. And then in 322 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: another more recent one, in another more recent interview, he 323 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: was asked if he supported Argentina's new finance minister, which 324 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: he responded Hell No, and then he offered his opinion 325 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: as well, saying that he doesn't support Christina either. Uh, 326 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: Christina's later the person he tries to kill. You know, 327 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: I will say this. This is this is not out 328 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: of line, for like when whenever a journalist tries to 329 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: pick a random person on the street, like it's like they're, they're, they're, 330 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 1: they're always interviewing Hitler, Mussolini, like it's it's just every 331 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: single time. Like this guy is a Repretenti senative sample 332 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 1: of those people. But yeah, so he gives up his 333 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: unsolicited opinion on Christina, who he then tries to murder 334 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: on TV, just a month before he tries to kill her. Um. 335 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: So now back at the scene, authorities said that. So 336 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: the gun, they had five bullets inside. Um, the serial 337 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:40,199 Speaker 1: number was partially, partially removed. Um, it was. It was 338 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 1: an older it was an older gun. It was not 339 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: was was not brand new. Um, they said that the 340 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 1: gun model had not, had not been manufactured in forty years. Um, 341 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: but it's a the IT looks like it was made 342 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:58,160 Speaker 1: until nine eight. Again, it's pretty old. Yeah, the gun 343 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: could have failed to fire because it was broken or 344 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,800 Speaker 1: because it was just improperly loaded. Um, because have you 345 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 1: come across the Argentine media articles which we're explaining how 346 00:21:08,160 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: to properly cock the hammer on one? Because that's a real, real, 347 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: really interesting take? Stuff being like next time. So good stuff, 348 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: as always, from from our friends in the media. And reportedly, uh, 349 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: the gun tried to try to get fired twice. So 350 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:29,959 Speaker 1: pull pull the Trigar at least two times, and when 351 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: they recovered it there was no round chambered. So he 352 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: may have just not like like. He could have just 353 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: not cocked it at all and that could be why 354 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: I didn't fire. Like it's unclear that this whole thing 355 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: is really like the like. It's it's the Verdin Virgin 356 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: Kirshner assassin versus the chat abbe assassin, that the chat 357 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: aube assassin went to the time of building his own weapon. 358 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: He fired it twice. bullshots went off. The fucking Virgin, 359 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: this guy, zero, fires it twice. Doesn't, doesn't build his 360 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:04,879 Speaker 1: own weapons. Zero bullets come out. Do we know if 361 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: it's legal for this person to own? The guy in 362 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: Argentina it heard they like a quiet legally and not 363 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: being able to test it, illegally and not being able 364 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,439 Speaker 1: to test it, because that would have also sort of 365 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 1: got some attention to them. I believe it's illegal. Okay, yeah, well, 366 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,439 Speaker 1: either way, I should have just stred down the older 367 00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: the old method with the pipe gun and the battery, 368 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 1: I guess. Well, do you know what isn't illegal, and 369 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:32,200 Speaker 1: that's assembling your own no, no, it's uh, that's very illegal. where, uh, 370 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:36,000 Speaker 1: these products and services which support this podcast very not illegal. 371 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,800 Speaker 1: All right, we are we we are back. I'm going 372 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:52,439 Speaker 1: to share with you, guys, the document I'm looking at, uh, 373 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,360 Speaker 1: so you can so you can have have fun looking 374 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,600 Speaker 1: at all of these uh, these symbols with me. Um, 375 00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 1: screw to where the first picture is, Um, and then 376 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: we'll then we're gonna go over all of the all 377 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,320 Speaker 1: of the weird ship that we have. This is what 378 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: so we're looking at his facebook likes here. Yes, these 379 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: are the facebook pages that he follows. God. So, yeah, 380 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: this is a bit of a Red Flag. There's some 381 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: yikes here. So yeah, UM, thirty five years old. He 382 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: has a Chilean father and an Argentine mother. He's lived 383 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: in Argentina for at least twenty years. His profiles on 384 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: facebook and Instagram were taking down pretty soon. On his 385 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: instagram he described himself as a devout Christian. Sure, buddy here. Yes, yes, Um, 386 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 1: he didn't comment on Brazilian politics very much. It was 387 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 1: mostly interested in Argentina. Um, but and a lot of 388 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,760 Speaker 1: the esoteric Nazi stuff. Um, a lot of the weird like. 389 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: There's actually an interesting history of Esoteric Nazia stuff specifically 390 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: inside Argentina as well. Obviously a lot of Nazis fled 391 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,440 Speaker 1: to Argentina. They've kind of kind of been a fostered 392 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: ground for them. But yeah, there's there's a lot of 393 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff here. Um. One of the pages 394 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: he follows is named Camarada Miguel S S, which is 395 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: just a picture of like Nazi soldiers in armed bands. 396 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:25,119 Speaker 1: Your understanding this all right, that it's a hit and 397 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 1: nothing to me, there's there's there's a lot of stuff 398 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 1: Biblioteca esoterica, but yeah, there's there's stuff from like Gnosticism, 399 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: there's stuff on freemasonry, Um, all of like it's kind 400 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: of like a it's a little bit of a basic 401 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: bitch here. This is like it's not for for this 402 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: type of guy. It's not surprising. Obviously he's not like 403 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: a normal dude, but for someone who's into Esoteric fascion stuff, 404 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, yeah, you hit all the things like 405 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: you're I'm not surprised looking at your page. Um. So, yeah, 406 00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: like we said, he's tattooed with Black Son Iron Cross 407 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 1: and and a mule near. Um. Now, obviously the iron 408 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: cross the mule near are not symbols created by Nazis. Uh, 409 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: you know, they were previously existing symbols. Iron Cross existed 410 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: in the PRUSSIAN Army. The mill near is an old 411 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: nordic symbol. But both of these were UH CO opted 412 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: by the Nazis Pretty Pretty UH, pretty strongly. Uh Now 413 00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,359 Speaker 1: have very strong associations. If you scroll down to the 414 00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:32,040 Speaker 1: next page, Um, I have all of his tattoos here. 415 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,120 Speaker 1: So you can see a bit of the sauna red 416 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: on his on his elbow, you can see some of 417 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: the hammer on his uh. I believe his right hand 418 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: has the hammer and his left hand has the has 419 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: the Iron Cross. Uh So, I mean, what's this diamond thing? 420 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to get to that. So the Black Son's 421 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: son and Rad. We've talked about this on the show 422 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:06,080 Speaker 1: a lot. Um, it exists before as of a lot 423 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 1: of limbs. A lot of liberals now think it's an 424 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: ASAV battalion symbol. Uh No, I mean that this you know. Uh, 425 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 1: a lot of Nazi mass shooters have had son and 426 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: Rad like patches and stuff for years and years and years. 427 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 1: It's been very popular. It's also very popular among Esoteric Fascists, 428 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,919 Speaker 1: also very popular among like you see a lot of 429 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: widener group guys with this. Like you see there's a 430 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: lot of Russian soldiers who. But no, but it makes 431 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: sense as in its popularity as like an esoteric fascist symbol. 432 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: This guy is into all of the esoteric fascist ship, 433 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: so he's of course he's going to have a black 434 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: son Um. Uh. So the that now James mentioned another 435 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: tattoo which kind of looks like a diamond, which is 436 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: the drazzle Imuslum, which is how how? That's how I'm 437 00:26:56,359 --> 00:27:00,400 Speaker 1: going to pronounce it, because nobody cares um it. It 438 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,800 Speaker 1: means a great, tall pillar. It's known as like the 439 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,360 Speaker 1: tree bridge that would connect the earth to like the celestial, 440 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:13,760 Speaker 1: like greater reality. The urmansule plays an important role in 441 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 1: like old GERMANIC paganism. Um, it was there probably was 442 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 1: a physical sacrificial site adorned with like big pillars. Um. But, 443 00:27:23,160 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 1: like like a lot of the old weird German ship, 444 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: it got notified. Um. HEINDRI kindler founded the Society for 445 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:36,040 Speaker 1: Research and teaching of ancestral heritage in nineteen which was 446 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:40,439 Speaker 1: this was in an organization with the aim of retracing, quote, 447 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: ancient Aryan artifacts that support the master race theory. Um 448 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 1: and uh, he used one of these for the original 449 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: symbol of this organization, which is all about like tracing 450 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: back old Germanic like pagan ship, to be like here's 451 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: evidence that we're the mast a race and all of 452 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,359 Speaker 1: our he's he's like trying to manufacture anthropology which supports 453 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 1: all of the bad science that says we are Arians 454 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: and we are better. So he's it's in this like 455 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 1: fake and you know, it's like the Indiana Jones stuff 456 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:14,680 Speaker 1: like this is, this, is, this, is, this is what 457 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: he's trying to do. Um, but that one of the 458 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: symbols used for that was the immenstule or the Yagdrasil. Uh. 459 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: Possibly this symbol was also linked to Odin. It's unclear 460 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: because the actual God of that represents, im Minstrel, is 461 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: hard to trace. Um. But yeah, probably a sacred object 462 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 1: in the form of a pillar that represents kind of 463 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: the trunk of the Nordic Spiritual Cosmos that rises up 464 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: into kind of the heavens. Yes, it's it's something. It's 465 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: something the Nazi's pilfered from like Germanic Paganism, turned it 466 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: into Nazi ship and became this idea around the spiritual 467 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,080 Speaker 1: center of like German nationalism. It's like it's this, this, this, 468 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: this spiritual thing that represents how pure we are as 469 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: German nationalists. Anyway. Uh, obviously the shooter is not German, 470 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: which is kind of so I wonder. I wonder how 471 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: he has that. Huh. I wonder what he's trying to 472 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: stay there. It just likes German people. It's interesting in 473 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: the culture. But yes, he has one of these on 474 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: his uh I believe it's his left hand, Um on, 475 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: on on his forearm. It's a it's, it's a it's 476 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: a pretty intricate symbol. Uh. Yeah, that is like his 477 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 1: best tattoo as well. Some of the other is a 478 00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: pretty robey. Yeah, the the millionaire Tattoo is not very good. Um, 479 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: the the the iron cross, is pretty faded. But but 480 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,040 Speaker 1: the great pillar once decent um in terms of like quality. Again, 481 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: just we're just reviewing the esoteric fashion. Yeah, yeah, best, UM, look, 482 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 1: assassination week is also fashion week. Yeah, it's true. Would 483 00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 1: you say better or worse than brees and the scheme 484 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: mask at this point? I like the scheme masks, I think. 485 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: I think it's slightly better. Take this, the thing that 486 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: James was asking about previously. There's this really weird symbol 487 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:30,760 Speaker 1: that obviously looks kind of Swastika Ish. It's it's very 488 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: like it's, it's it's it's made up of like two 489 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: different runes combined into one symbol. Um, this, this is 490 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: this is the kind of logo of an Esoteric Neo 491 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: Nazi sect in Argentina founded by a very famous Argentina 492 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 1: and Neo Nazi named Nimrod de Rosario, which I do 493 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: like that. His name is Nim rode, like God. So, yes, Um, 494 00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: I highlighted this this do you want to try to 495 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 1: try to pronounce that one? That one's uh, yeah, Argentina. 496 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: So like. So, that is the name of the sect. 497 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: It's the symbols a combination of the odal run and 498 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: the Tyra Rune. Um, hence the name Uh Tyro Dal 499 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: or UH tirodal. It's, it's, it's, it's a combination of 500 00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: these things into this new thing. Um. So this is 501 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: like very popular for this type of like kind of 502 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: kind of esoteric Nazi writer. UH, inside, inside Argentina. He 503 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 1: had so that the assassin, or attempted assassin, had a 504 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: few of these things saved. Um, it was actually an 505 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 1: organization like the order of nights, the herodal nights. How 506 00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:00,040 Speaker 1: we say that? I mean not really. It's just a 507 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 1: facebook chivalric order. It's it's hard to say. I mean, 508 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: like no, they're not, they're not out there doing tons 509 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 1: of ship. Um. Are they laughing? Yes, yes, they are. 510 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean all as soon as would any one of 511 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: these groups called themselves like an order of the Knights. 512 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,080 Speaker 1: They're always larping, like they're always they're always doing kind 513 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: of alert like whenever someone into like the templar. Isn't ship, 514 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: you're like, okay, Agisian recently who joined like the he's 515 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: like sworn to protect Christians in the Holy Land. It 516 00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: was very funny. Yeah, like come on, yeah, all right, 517 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: so he's a big yeah, he's got a lot of 518 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,360 Speaker 1: Christian stuff as well, like I'm looking at the and yeah, 519 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,479 Speaker 1: I mean that's that's kind of with all of like 520 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: the GNOSTICISM stuff, which it was draws on a lot 521 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: of like Christian imagery or Catholic imagery, and he did 522 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: describe himself as a Christian on his instagram account, which 523 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: still it's like, okay, but you're you're into some weirder 524 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: ship than that. But yeah, there's there, there is. There 525 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: is some of a Christian basis for this style of 526 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: of like esoterrorism. I feel you. Okay, well, I've just 527 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: found it that. I'm sorry, I just scrolled down. I 528 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: didn't expect to see that. Just expect to see what 529 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: is it like a cam girl? Oh yes, yes, he was. 530 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: He was retweeting a cab girl on his twitter. Yes, 531 00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 1: so I have some other stuff here on the the 532 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Argentinian Patriot front, um, but please different Patriot front to them, 533 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,920 Speaker 1: the American one. But that was just talking. I just 534 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 1: wanted to talk briefly a bit about like Argentinian like uh, 535 00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 1: Nazism or fascism, um, much like Brazilian stuff with Balsonaro 536 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,720 Speaker 1: and the kind of the the the fascist groups that 537 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,040 Speaker 1: have been active in both countries for a while. Both 538 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 1: of them have historical roots that go back to the 539 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: twenties twentieth century. Their new Nazi and Neo Fascist groups 540 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: that have been active in Argentina for decades. We've talked. 541 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about this in the Kyle 542 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 1: Written House Cultural Center as well. Um, as it relates 543 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 1: to like anti communist like stuff. Um, one of the 544 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: kind of oldest um groups of of of Argentina and 545 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:28,440 Speaker 1: Fascism uh formed into a new group called Patriot front, 546 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: or friente Patriot Patriota. How how do you? How would 547 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:38,680 Speaker 1: you say that? How would you say that? Patrick? I 548 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: was close, I was you were really there for like 549 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 1: of it. I already thought you had it, Um. But yeah, 550 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: this's this new group, Patriot front was formed in Um, 551 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: but it's based off of a very famous, uh, far 552 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 1: right leader called Aleandro Bandino. Um, just how again? That's 553 00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: how how I'm gonna do it. UH, should his name is? 554 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 1: His name is highlighted here Italian, like yeah, that's yeah, 555 00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:15,280 Speaker 1: that's name. I mean, but he's, he's he's been active 556 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: in Argentina's far right sphere for a long, long time, 557 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 1: like he's he's kind of like the main guy who's 558 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: trying to do stuff. He's six, sixty six years old. Um, 559 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: he was born in Argentina. Um, yeah, I was. Argentina 560 00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 1: has a massive Um Italian population. This has been like 561 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: this has a trouper sort of a long time. Like yeah, 562 00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:42,800 Speaker 1: and this sort of this cuts both ways politically, like 563 00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 1: a lot of those guys used to be anarchists, like 564 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: there's a hugenicis huvement in Argentina for a long time. 565 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 1: So a lot of weird fascists. So it is. It is. 566 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,160 Speaker 1: It is interesting that like this new Nazi assassin again 567 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,720 Speaker 1: wasn't part of any of these groups. Wasn't really aligned 568 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,359 Speaker 1: with his Patriot front group, wasn't really aligned with any 569 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:05,200 Speaker 1: other kind of actual like far right political activism. Um, 570 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: he was just into weird. He was into like dressing 571 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 1: up as a as a wizard and talking about Weird 572 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,440 Speaker 1: Gnosticism and Fascism online, and then he tried to kill 573 00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:19,160 Speaker 1: the vice president. Um, did he? It was just like 574 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: an impulse thing or it's just like a long planned 575 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,960 Speaker 1: I think he did live nearby. I mean, I I 576 00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 1: believe it's. I mean she was in the capital city. 577 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, well, it's a it's a you can walkably, 578 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,000 Speaker 1: you can, you can, you can get around, if you're dedicated, 579 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:40,480 Speaker 1: people around the city. Which city is? Again, I can't remember. 580 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:43,879 Speaker 1: I can't remember either. You know, I. I. WHO's to say? 581 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: WHO's to say? So, yes, this is this is the 582 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:53,319 Speaker 1: story of the uh not assassination that was attempted a 583 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: few weeks ago in Argentina and the guy behind it, 584 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: who should have just learned to play D and D 585 00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: um like. Honestly, yeah, well, he didn't know. He's probably 586 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: gonna spend a long time in jail now, probably. I 587 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: mean he he did not kill the vice president, but 588 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,839 Speaker 1: he didn't put a gun into her face and tried 589 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: to pull the trigger two times in front of tons 590 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:22,520 Speaker 1: of unfortunately, that gets you to attempted assassination. Yeah, yeah, 591 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: I think, I think it's I think, even if he 592 00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: didn't know how to chamber his round properly. Yeah, once 593 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: again the master race prevails. So, yeah, and any any 594 00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: other notes on on this guy or the stuff in Argentina? 595 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: Any any comments? Comments from the from the gallery? No, 596 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 1: fascinating stuff. This again, this is, this is, he is 597 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,359 Speaker 1: so much less cool and worse of an assassin than 598 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: the big guy. This guy sucks. Yeah, compared to he's, he's, 599 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: he's the probably the least based guy we're gonna be 600 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,240 Speaker 1: talking about. Yeah, I think right, like at least ETA 601 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: was successful in make someone into you can buy Nimrod's 602 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: books on Amazon Dot Com. That's a problem. Of those. 603 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 1: You shouldn't be able to do that. Come on, he 604 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: has a twitter account. All right, let's just read some 605 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 1: of these tweets. I mean English or Spanish. UH, Spanish, 606 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:26,520 Speaker 1: but I can, I can Tan, I can do Google translate. Um, oh, 607 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: talking about Zionist terrorism. Um, the myth of the Holocaust. 608 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:40,880 Speaker 1: I mean it's again, he's what do you expect? Physical 609 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 1: reaction to that last one? But yes, so, this, this 610 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,839 Speaker 1: was the guy that had the symbol, that that that 611 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:51,879 Speaker 1: had the weird, the weird combination ruined symbol, that that 612 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: the assassin liked the books of and use the symbology 613 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,960 Speaker 1: of on his facebook. I just, I just sent the 614 00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:04,160 Speaker 1: writers of a twitter account to the cool so chat. Um, 615 00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 1: I feel like once, once I go to nimbrod's twitter page, 616 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: on the WHO to follow section, it recommends Alexander Dugan. Good, 617 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,800 Speaker 1: so that this this was the guy. I had vaguely 618 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:23,479 Speaker 1: read somewhere that this guy like, like, isn't he dead? 619 00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: I believe he's dead. So who's running this twitter account 620 00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:33,880 Speaker 1: for a while? These are some some lackeys using the nineties. 621 00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 1: He died in seven. Okay, so this is like yeah, alright, 622 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:42,400 Speaker 1: this is like some lackey is posting honest account to 623 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:48,920 Speaker 1: plug his books. Um, yeah, in the state. Yeah, he's 624 00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: retreating the Falange. It's funny. Look to the people he retweet. 625 00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: You go to their account and it's like this account 626 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: is temporary, unavailable because it violates twitter's media policy. Yeah, 627 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: I wonder. I wonder why. I wonder what. Yeah, I 628 00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 1: do like, Um, Nimrod's website is down, which is good. 629 00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: That is that is nice. Um, his official website is offline. 630 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 1: So that's good. Um. It sucks that his books are 631 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: on Amazon, but you know, it's what. What can you do? 632 00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,960 Speaker 1: It is it is. It is good that he's dead, Mum. 633 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: So He is dead, the vice president is not and 634 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:33,479 Speaker 1: the assassin's probably gonna be in jail for a long time. 635 00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: And that's the episode. It could happen here is a 636 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: production of cool zone media. 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