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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grease Alex Murdog. Yes, it's not

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Speaker 1: over yet. Have you ever seen an action or a

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Speaker 1: again and go after the protagonist. That's what's happening here.

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Speaker 1: He's back again, and right now he is in court.

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Speaker 1: That's right, Alex Murdog in court again. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: see grace. This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being

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Speaker 1: with us here at Fox Nation and Series XM one eleven.

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Speaker 1: First of all, take a listen to our friends at WISTV.

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Speaker 2: Back in the courtroom today for the first time since

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Speaker 2: being convicted of killing his wife and son earlier this year,

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Speaker 2: Murdoch is making his initial appearance in federal court after

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Speaker 2: a grand jury indicted him on nearly two dozen financial

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Speaker 2: related charges. They range from fraud to money laundering. The

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Speaker 2: indictment alleges during Murdoch's time as an attorney, he came

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Speaker 2: up with three schemes to take money and property from

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Speaker 2: his clients. Murdoch is currently serving two life sentences for

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Speaker 2: the murders of his wife and son.

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Speaker 3: If convicted on.

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Speaker 2: These federal charges, he could add four hundred and eighty

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Speaker 1: Dollars money, money, money, and more. From our friends at

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Speaker 4: This barred attorney Alec Murdoch set to make an appearance

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Speaker 4: here in Charleston on twenty two federal charges. Court documents

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Speaker 4: the US Courthouse. Last week, Murdoch was indicted by a

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Speaker 4: federal grand jury on account of conspiracy to commit wire

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Speaker 4: and bank fraud, one count of bank fraud, a total

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Speaker 4: of five counts of wire fraud, one count of conspiracy

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Speaker 4: He's currently in prison for the twenty twenty one shooting

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Speaker 1: Joining me an incredible panel, but first to Jennifer Wood,

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Speaker 1: director of research at fitznews dot com. You can find

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Speaker 1: Jennifer on Twitter at Indie Jen Underscore, Jennifer, thank you

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Speaker 1: for being with us. He's back. Why won't he go away?

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Speaker 1: Why is he in court?

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Speaker 5: It's like the guest that keeps on giving. I guess,

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Speaker 5: I mean it, I don't and I don't think they're

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Speaker 1: You know, the thing is so many crimes. Eric Bland

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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. Shouldn't you be in

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Speaker 1: court fighting for Alex Murdock's victims right now? I feel

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Speaker 1: very honored here with us. What's happening? Why is he

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Speaker 6: Because one my partner's going to be there in Charleston,

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Speaker 6: agree that this is not the end. You know, there's

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Speaker 7: Well well, well, wait, wait, wait, you know, Eric Bland,

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Speaker 1: For most people, that means they're actually telling you something.

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Speaker 1: new investigation, Parallels of Evil the Bundy and Idaho Killings.

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Speaker 1: The Interview Room, Chris mcdona, I've had escapees. Now. A

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Speaker 9: you know, I'm cooperating I'm doing this, I'm doing that.

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Speaker 1: Well, and another thing, who do you think he's friends

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Speaker 5: I believe I read. I believe I read he was

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Speaker 1: Describe what exactly happened to this teengirl, Mallory Beach.

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Speaker 11: Well, Nancy, we did go out and as you may recall,

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Speaker 11: There were six young adults in the boat. Paul, the driver,

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Speaker 1: me phil otim boating accident reconstruction. I don't like the

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Speaker 1: He didn't do that, He sped right into these cement pilings.

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Speaker 1: Phil owner of H two TO Investigations, former law enforcement

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Speaker 13: I think that Paul Murdog was extremely intoxicated. There was

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Speaker 1: Guys, we're talking about the horrible death of teen girl

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Speaker 1: Mallory Beach. Take a listen to our cut two, three four,

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Speaker 11: It's your emergency.

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Speaker 1: We think we found her.

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Speaker 14: Beach's body was found on March third, twenty nineteen, in

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Speaker 1: I spoke with the boat rescue that were called out

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Speaker 1: Chris McDonough, veteran homicide detective. Her body was taken by

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Speaker 1: Again, so many days passed before her body was found,

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Speaker 1: Interesting that video actually captures Mallory Beach just before the crash,

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Speaker 8: Night Rich emergency We ran a boat crash on Arthur three.

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Speaker 1: And the immediate reaction of the other people on the

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Speaker 1: Let me decipher what you just heard. You are hearing

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Speaker 1: pilings and ultimately drowns, and the cops says sit down,

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00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:26,639
Speaker 1: sit down, and he screams, my f and girlfriend's gone. Bro,

438
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: you think it's effing funny. They make him sit down,

439
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: and Cook says, I hope you wrot in e f

440
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 1: in hell now. Another ominous premonition I believe is in

441
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: our cut to seventeen, where we hear everyone on the

442
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 1: boat saying he'll never get in trouble for this. Take

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Speaker 1: a listen, you.

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00:28:54,360 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: Smiling like funny sit down boats. You all know L Murdoch,

445
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: that's his son.

446
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 15: That's so grabbing.

447
00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: Good look to Eric Bland, high profile lawyer out of

448
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: the South Carolina jurisdiction but practices all over, who is

449
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: representing many of the victims connected to the Murdoch family.

450
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: That night, the people on the boat said, he'll never

451
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: pay for this. He's a murdog.

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Speaker 6: Nancy. It's just it's chilling. It was bone chilling for

453
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 6: me just to hear that. I had forgotten that. And

454
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 6: you know, as the two years or well at now

455
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 6: the three four years have elapsed and we've seen who

456
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 6: this family really is. They are completely, all of them,

457
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: all of them out of touch with regular society, with

458
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 6: regular morais and values.

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Speaker 11: It is.

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Speaker 6: It's not surprising that a lot of these things are

461
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 6: coming out now and we're seeing them from Paul and

462
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 6: Buster and obviously Alex. Maggie we didn't see as much,

463
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 6: but of course no one really gave testimony about any

464
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 6: bad qualities that Maggie had, and I'm not saying she

465
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 6: had them, but we've seen Paul, Alex and Buster, we've

466
00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 6: seen a little bit from the brothers. This is a

467
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 6: family that is completely out of touch with the rest

468
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 6: of society.

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Speaker 3: There's no doubt about it.

470
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Speaker 1: And when you hear the actions of Alex Murdog the

471
00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 1: night of the crash, it will make your blood run cold.

472
00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: He goes to the hospital after these teens are raced

473
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: to the hospital, and instead of trying to help them,

474
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Speaker 1: he hovers over their bed their beds, sneaks into their

475
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: rooms to get them to change their testimony and not

476
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,479
Speaker 1: cooperate with police, as opposed to being concerned and out

477
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: there looking for Mallory Beach. Karen Starting me well known

478
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: psychologist joining us out of Manhattan trauma and crime expert

479
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 1: at karenstart dot com as Karen with a C. Karen

480
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 1: is within a family. The children learn this behavior from

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00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: their parents.

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00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 12: Well, of course, Nancy, because listen to what's going on.

483
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 12: You're saying he's out of touch, but he really wasn't,

484
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600
Speaker 12: or someone said he's out of touch, He's not out

485
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 12: of touch. He knew enough to show up at that

486
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 12: hospital and here you're talking about a missing girl, right

487
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,040
Speaker 12: and he's running around from room to room trying to

488
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 12: make sure that nobody testifies against his son. So he's

489
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 12: very much in touch with protecting his son and making

490
00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 12: sure they're not caught. And that's what their family was like.

491
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 12: They pushed everything to make sure that things worked on

492
00:31:55,160 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 12: their side for their benefit, and they understood good how

493
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 12: to do that with the law. I had to manipulate,

494
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 12: how to just do whatever they could to make sure

495
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 12: that people would not be able to testify if they

496
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 12: possibly could do that.

497
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: Now, when you hear the damage to the boat, you're

498
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: going to be shocked that on the scene, no breathalyzer

499
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 1: was administered to Paul Murdoch. Remember these people, they're at

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00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: the scene, the AMTS, the cops. They all know Alex

501
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: Murdoch as a legal heir in South Carolina, and no

502
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: breathalyzer was administered to his son, Paul Mardag. After they

503
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: see this, take a listen to two fifty seven Fox.

504
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 8: Carolina dispatch calls also paint a picture of Mallory's final moments.

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00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,720
Speaker 3: They we're driving at a high rate of speed in

506
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: the water in a boat.

507
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: That female was sitting on her boyfriend. They hit the bridge.

508
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 3: He is now missing the frock left.

509
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 13: Five, which could be the court pocket. The driver shop

510
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 13: is good, open from the nose all the way to

511
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,959
Speaker 13: put back where they fixed for the gap where they

512
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 13: boat actually came a part at the theme.

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Speaker 8: D n R officers took these photos aboard the boat

514
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 8: the next day, showing coolers filled with drinks still on

515
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 8: ice and emptied bottles and cans left behind.

516
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: Yet no breathalyzer at the scene. Take a listen to

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Speaker 1: two three six wc BD DO.

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Speaker 16: Documents show that none of the responding officers administered a

519
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 16: sobriety test, despite reports that Paul was visibly intoxicated and

520
00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 16: his blood levels were taken at four am when Paul

521
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 16: was at the hospital. Several hospital workers documented about Paul's behavior,

522
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 16: as well as his father Alex Murdall and grandfather Randolph

523
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 16: Murdle has troublesome and belligerent.

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Speaker 5: Union crashing the marriage crash into that Rock or.

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Speaker 8: Mr.

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Speaker 16: New information from scdn R shows that Paul was consuming

527
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 16: alcohol earlier that day leading up to the crash, buying

528
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 16: drinks of gas station, going to parties, and drinking at

529
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Speaker 16: local bars.

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Speaker 1: He was drunk all ri Take a listen to two

531
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Speaker 1: five eight Fox Carolina.

532
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,520
Speaker 8: After the crash, four of the five teens were rushed

533
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 8: to Bufort Memorial Hospital. A nurse stated Paul Murdall was

534
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:24,120
Speaker 8: quote only wearing boxers and that he was grossly intoxicated

535
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 8: and belligerent, adding that he appeared to be quote the

536
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:32,319
Speaker 8: most intoxicated and uncooperative of those involved. The hospital took

537
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 8: a blood test from Murder around four m that showed

538
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:38,959
Speaker 8: Murdaw's BAC set at zero point two eighty six. That's

539
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 8: more than three times the legal limit.

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Speaker 1: Two Doctor d Prie, what is point two eighty six? Explain?

541
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Speaker 11: That is an extremely high level of alcohol at Someone

542
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 11: with that level of alcohol is going to be visibly impaired.

543
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 11: They're going to have obviously poor judgment, their reflexes are

544
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 11: going to be pretty much neil. They are going to

545
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,200
Speaker 11: be so drunk that can hardly stand up.

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00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,720
Speaker 1: But what did Murdog do that night? Take a listen

547
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 1: to our cut two four nine. This is Murdog on

548
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: the stand under oath for whatever that counts for with

549
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: Alex Murdog, listen, did you generally walk around.

550
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 3: With your bassinating out of your popka? Generally speaking, those sir,

551
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 3: I did not.

552
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,279
Speaker 1: Or only when you wanted some advantage from it?

553
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 3: Did I want some advantage from wearing it like that.

554
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,959
Speaker 3: Did I hanging out in my pocket when I wanted

555
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: an advantage? Yes, I may have. I certainly may have.

556
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: What advantage does you want when?

557
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 8: Then?

558
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 15: I don't even recall this, mister Waters, But if I

559
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 15: was wanting some advantage as you say it, I guess

560
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 15: And I don't remember this, but I guess I would.

561
00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:02,160
Speaker 15: Would you know, as I said, a badge has a

562
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 15: warming effect with other law enforcements.

563
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: A warming effect. Eric Bland, what's that supposed to me?

564
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 6: It has a fixing effect and not a warming effect.

565
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 6: He's trying to flex his authority to get around protocol.

566
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 6: The fact that you can interfere with an investigation, the

567
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:28,040
Speaker 6: fact that you can break yellow tape and get inside

568
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: of a crime scene, or get your friends in your

569
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 6: house after your wife and son are murdered at a

570
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,240
Speaker 6: crime scene, That's what it is. It's called the fix.

571
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: Nancy Well, thank goodness, there was actually a video from

572
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: the hospital. Because Murdoch said he didn't remember anything like that.

573
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: Listen to two fifty see to.

574
00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 3: This jury that there was any intention or purpose to

575
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: you doing that at the hospital on the night of

576
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 3: the boat rack.

577
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 15: I'm saying I don't remember using that badge.

578
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 3: And I specifically remember you know, I'm sorry, go.

579
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Speaker 15: Ahead, and you asked you such a remember what that

580
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 15: like when I when I went into the room with

581
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 15: the kids, that I pulled my badge out, And I

582
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 15: know that I did not do.

583
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 3: That, No, because it was on your pocket like that. Correct,

584
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 3: It's on my pocket like that right then?

585
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: And then listen to two five one murder being questioned

586
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: by prosecutor creating Waters about trying to convince the other

587
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:24,200
Speaker 1: chains not to testify.

588
00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 3: When I got there, I went to Paul Paul.

589
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 15: When I left Paul Paul, I went to Morgan Dowdy,

590
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 15: who was like a daughter to Maggie and I had

591
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 15: dated Paul for a long time. And I went to Morgan.

592
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 15: Morgan had an injury to her hand that that was

593
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 15: that was bad, and she was very upset about Mallory

594
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 15: and they were working on her. So I left her room.

595
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 15: I went back to Paul Paul. At some point in time,

596
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 15: I know that I went to Connor's room, and I

597
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 15: believe those are the only rooms I went to.

598
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 3: And I can't tell you that with certainty.

599
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 13: While you're wearing that badge like that, did you tell

600
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 13: any of the kids who are in the boat ragging

601
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 13: not to cooperate with law enforcement.

602
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 15: I never told anybody not to cooperate with law enforcement.

603
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 1: Well that's not what they said. So who do we believe?

604
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: And I remember he's referring to Paul Paul. That would

605
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 1: be Paul Murdog, the son he murdered. Trying to avoid

606
00:38:24,360 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 1: financial ruin because of this boat crash, Alex Murdog set

607
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: to testify under oath in the Mallory Beach case. We

608
00:38:34,520 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: only pray the victims' families get some of the Murdog

609
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: money what's left of it. We wait as justice unpoles.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye friend,