1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. 2 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:15,920 Speaker 2: Single best idea and we say good morning to you. 3 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: Not as hectic as Monday, but it was a really 4 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: interesting today. Dell Out with a huge announcement and it 5 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:24,120 Speaker 2: wasn't so much in numbers. Who knows what the numbers are, 6 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: that's their view, but it was the timeline dell Out 7 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:32,160 Speaker 2: framing out to Dina Bass of Bloomberg News, a two 8 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: year view with some real certitude, and then even extrapolating 9 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 2: out from there to two thousand and thirty. It's single 10 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 2: handedly lift the market for about an hour and we'll 11 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: see how we get through the day. Really interesting set 12 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 2: of guests today. Matt Miskan with us from John Hancock. 13 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: They have nailed the buy America by high quality call. 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: Matt Miskan an update on this raging artificial intelligence. 15 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 3: Look the AI trade. I get it right now. If 16 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 3: you basically come out with a headline saying you're selling 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 3: staples or paper clips to a company that's in AI, 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 3: you get a massive multiple expansions, huge stock ball. That 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 3: to me is concerning. But when you look underneath the 20 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 3: hood and you look at the best earnings growth across 21 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 3: all eleven sectors into the third quarter, even technology communications 22 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 3: services are on top, and so earnings growth is the 23 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: only way to get really appreciation from equities from here 24 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: in our view, and that's where we're following the cash flow. 25 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: Matt Miskin there on the upcoming earning season. It starts 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,760 Speaker 2: with JP Morgan next week. Tom McKenzie talking to James 27 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 2: Diamond today in London. But the earning season and the 28 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 2: revenue season will be extraordinary. The headline from Dell was 29 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,559 Speaker 2: at high single digit revenue guestimate I'll center tendency eight 30 00:01:51,600 --> 00:01:55,639 Speaker 2: percent or so. That's a big number for someone selling 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: hardware as Dell is. It's just a really interesting announcement. 32 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: Of course, we'll see that through all of the earnings season. 33 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 2: The book to read for people whose heads are spinning 34 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 2: in this equity market moment, no question, it's Barry ritt 35 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 2: Holts How Not to Invest? Great book, even more so 36 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:18,919 Speaker 2: in this October of twenty twenty five, Bury Ritt Holts 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:20,400 Speaker 2: on the moment at hand. 38 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: Markets always seem confusing most of the time. If you 39 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:33,400 Speaker 1: think you understand exactly what's going on, you're probably fooling yourself. 40 00:02:33,440 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: And so we have all these crosscurrents. We tend to 41 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: put things into the context of up down, black, white, yes, no, 42 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,640 Speaker 1: when the world is shades of gray. When things are 43 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: more complex, there are so many crosscurrents. People see a 44 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:54,120 Speaker 1: softening of the labor markets and immediately start thinking recession. 45 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: We still have a fore handle on unemployment. Three point 46 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,679 Speaker 1: seven eight percent a year go ridiculously low. Four and 47 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: a half is still considered full employment. So we have 48 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: a shortage of bodies. We have a shortage of skilled workers. 49 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: Twenty twenty five could actually be the first year in 50 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: history where the US sees a decrease in total population, 51 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: reduced immigration, increased deporting, and things like that. So the 52 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,280 Speaker 1: non farm payrolls now we're not even getting the data, 53 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: but the last few data points were pretty punk. But 54 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:37,680 Speaker 1: that doesn't necessarily mean we're either in an expansion or 55 00:03:37,720 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 1: a contraction. There's enough positive things going on in the 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 1: marketplace and the economy that maybe we're decelerating from a 57 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: three to three and a half percent GDP to two percent. 58 00:03:50,200 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: And I'm talking next quarter Q four, not Q three, 59 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: which looks like it's going to be a hot print. 60 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 2: And Barry Ridholtz refuses to go out much further than 61 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,119 Speaker 2: those two quarters. There's a lot of humility there. We're 62 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: on your podcast on Apple and Spotify and YouTube podcasts. 63 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 2: It's single best idea