WEBVTT - Patriots Catch-22 9/7: Deep Dive into Key Eagles Matchups, Recent Roster Moves, Tom Brady Halftime Ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Patriots Catch twenty two podcasts with Evan

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<v Speaker 1>Lazar and Alex Barth.

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<v Speaker 2>Lazar, Blazarre and Lazarre. Hello, everybody, nailed it? Joined us

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<v Speaker 2>Always buy an our bar Gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Here is Evan Lazar and Alex Bars.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you focused on this right now or are you

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<v Speaker 2>lost in the in your your appearance on No.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, he's saying that I am have a lack of

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<v Speaker 1>height in a bad back. Half of that is true.

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<v Speaker 2>The lack of height is definitely true. I didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>about the back part. Hello. Hello, Hello, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I wasn't sure if you could hear me for some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Hello everybody, Evan Lazar, Alex Bars, Patriots Catch

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two taking you for the next hour and twenty five,

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<v Speaker 2>let's call it. We got open locker room at at

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<v Speaker 2>three thirty, so we're gonna try to to do this

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<v Speaker 2>without rushing.

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<v Speaker 1>Hang on, I know we're up against it. We may

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<v Speaker 1>need to hit an alternate open though. We may need

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<v Speaker 1>a you got you need a second? Okay, Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just I feel it might be good this week.

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<v Speaker 1>What I just have feeling it might be good?

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<v Speaker 2>What might be good?

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<v Speaker 1>The open.

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<v Speaker 2>Excuse me? I I know where this is heading, and

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<v Speaker 2>you you know that I'm already embarrassed by this entire thing.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm glad that you're you're you're milking it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think what's there to be embarrassed about.

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<v Speaker 2>You're in a room full of people and you're you're

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<v Speaker 2>getting singled out. I'm not like, I don't believe it

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<v Speaker 2>or not as somebody that like talks and puts themselves

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<v Speaker 2>out there for a living. I really I'm very socially

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<v Speaker 2>awkward in that sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, I can relate. And you heard it in

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<v Speaker 1>the in the open from that two weeks ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>was being singled out on ninety eight five for trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get Bruce Springsteen tickets. Yes, but the difference is

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<v Speaker 1>I I was called I said I had a bad back,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I was short. You were getting complimented on

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<v Speaker 1>your football knowledge by the quarterback of the New England

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots that you'd like to talk about the scheme.

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<v Speaker 2>So the laughing.

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<v Speaker 1>There it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe in an off season show we can we can

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<v Speaker 2>talk about what my fever dream offense is for the Patriots,

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<v Speaker 2>if I if I was running the show. But Mac

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<v Speaker 2>had his way, I have to I have to admit it.

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<v Speaker 2>It would be a lot like what Billy Oh is

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<v Speaker 2>installing for the Patriots. I would say, like I think

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama Billiyo's offense. Uh, those two offenses together are basically

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<v Speaker 2>where I would head if I was running an offense

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<v Speaker 2>which is definitely not going to happen, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, I am a little bit flattered, a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit flattered, but I.

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<v Speaker 1>Know you enjoyed that a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>At the same time, I know that he's he's busting,

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<v Speaker 2>busting my child.

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<v Speaker 1>Just host wise juking teams to death.

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<v Speaker 2>To death RPO of course, bunch of slants, bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>underneath stuff jack monsters. Like my whole roster, my dream,

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<v Speaker 2>entire Patriots roster would just be Deebo Samuels, right like,

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<v Speaker 2>just a bunch of Deebo Samuels that can just run

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<v Speaker 2>with the football. Take your low efficiency, jump outside the

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<v Speaker 2>numbers and do those on your own time. Take your

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<v Speaker 2>running game and do that on its own time for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>More rule, let's do short passes, dink and dunk, and

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<v Speaker 2>let's yack it up. That's how I would run the offense.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think in a lot of ways. That's how

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<v Speaker 2>Bill O'Brien is scheming this offense up, which is why

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited about it. But I don't want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>offense off the top of the show, but I do

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<v Speaker 2>have a take about the Patriots offense. But I want

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<v Speaker 2>to start defense for a second, which is rare for

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<v Speaker 2>us because we normally do this the total opposite direction.

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<v Speaker 2>But the reason why I want to start defense, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been thinking about this more and more as the weeks

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<v Speaker 2>and days have have turned into now almost hours for

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<v Speaker 2>the Patriots regular season opener on Sunday against the Philadelphia Eagles.

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<v Speaker 2>And this is where I'm at with this matchup, Alex,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm curious to hear your thoughts on how you

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<v Speaker 2>feel like this is going to go. The Patriots have

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<v Speaker 2>had all off season now to prepare for this game.

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<v Speaker 2>They've known that they were going to play the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>in since May when the schedule came out. They've known

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to play Philadelphia and Jalen Hurts and

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<v Speaker 2>the Philadelphia Eagles since May. Now they that was after

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<v Speaker 2>the draft, but at the same time, just stay with

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<v Speaker 2>me here. They drafted three rookies at the top of

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<v Speaker 2>the draft on defense that are athletic, that the second

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<v Speaker 2>and third round picks can tackle, can chase guys down,

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<v Speaker 2>can cover a whole lot of ground. And you have

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<v Speaker 2>a number one corner now who can take aj Brown,

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<v Speaker 2>DeVante Smith and hopefully cover those guys pretty well. So

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<v Speaker 2>they got a bunch of help from the draft on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>They're returning a bunch of their starters and regulars from

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<v Speaker 2>last year anyways, and they're adding this on top of it.

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<v Speaker 2>They've had all offseason to prepare. Show me something, Bill,

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<v Speaker 2>show me something against a mobile quarterback, show me something

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<v Speaker 2>against one of these new agey college style option heavy offenses.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time to finally put to bed the concerns about

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<v Speaker 2>this team against mobile quarterbacks and against offenses that run

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<v Speaker 2>themselves like Ladelphia does. Show me something, have something, do

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<v Speaker 2>something creative, do something different than what you normally do.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw it last year justin Fields and Lamar Jackson.

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<v Speaker 2>We've seen it in other instances in the past. I

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<v Speaker 2>truly feel like now they have the horses to stop

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<v Speaker 2>an offense like this. This isn't twenty nineteen when it's

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<v Speaker 2>you know, great great players, but high tower van Ney.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Juwan Bentley like guys like that. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>have the sideline to sideline speed and the athleticism in

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<v Speaker 2>space to keep up with these types of offenses. And

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<v Speaker 2>that was a systemic, you know, kind of personnel switch

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<v Speaker 2>that they had to make. You have Kyle Dugger, Adrian Phillips,

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<v Speaker 2>Jabriel Peppers, Jalen Mills, and Marty Mapu. Those five guys

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<v Speaker 2>will call them safeties, call them defensive backs, linebackers, whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want to call them. Those guys should help in

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<v Speaker 2>a matchup like this. Those guys should be out on

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<v Speaker 2>the field in a matchup like this. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>see the Patriots finally solve this problem. I have some

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<v Speaker 2>ideas of how they might get there and can break

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<v Speaker 2>those down. But that's my main thing about this is

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<v Speaker 2>that you went into the offseason and you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>loaded up on defense. We've talked about this a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying they haven't done anything to try to

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<v Speaker 2>upgrade the offense personnel wise, but in particular defensively. We

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<v Speaker 2>know that they feel pretty stacked on that side of

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<v Speaker 2>the football. There you go, here's right out of the gate.

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<v Speaker 2>Is one of your biggest tests of the season, and

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see something exotic and creative up their

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<v Speaker 2>sleeve for Philadelphia and their RPO package and they're read

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<v Speaker 2>option plays and the different type of things that they

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<v Speaker 2>do with Jalen Hurts. You have to find an answer

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<v Speaker 2>to this eventually.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, just on that you talk about the there's been

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of talk about, oh, the Patriots

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<v Speaker 1>can't beat a mobile quarterback. I'm not saying that's wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>but another big issue in these are in some ways related,

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<v Speaker 1>in some ways not as these AREPO heavy teams and

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<v Speaker 1>according to Pro Football Reference, no team ran more RPOs

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<v Speaker 1>last year in the Philadelphia Eagles one hundred and eighty five,

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<v Speaker 1>more than twenty more in the next closest team, that's

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<v Speaker 1>the Atlanta Falcons. Yea, So how many times do we

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<v Speaker 1>watch the Miami Dolphins? Just are that RPO slant to

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Wattle? Yeah, just kill the Patriots. You're gonna see

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of similar concepts on Sunday. And Yeah, between

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<v Speaker 1>that and the mobile quarterback, these are things they've had

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<v Speaker 1>trouble with. It feels like they know they've had trouble

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<v Speaker 1>with it, Like based on the way they drafted, like

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<v Speaker 1>you alluded to, I would also.

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<v Speaker 2>Say based on the way they've practiced.

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<v Speaker 1>Ye, that's what I think.

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<v Speaker 2>We did see more of this, And I've talked to

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<v Speaker 2>some of the players around the locker room this week

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<v Speaker 2>and they have mentioned, Look, we're gonna see this almost

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<v Speaker 2>every week now. Now not every quarterbacks Jalen hurts, Like

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<v Speaker 2>next week they're gonna play to a totally different style quarterback.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, like you just mentioned, it's

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<v Speaker 2>still an RPO offense on first and second down. So

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not the quarterback's legs are a big time

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<v Speaker 2>factor or not, they are going to be playing teams

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<v Speaker 2>every single week that runs some sort of RPO element.

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<v Speaker 2>It is now a part of the NFL. It's not

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<v Speaker 2>you can't hide from it anymore. It's gonna be every

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<v Speaker 2>single week.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I would say too, the Eagles don't just

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<v Speaker 1>run a lot, they're good at them. I was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to solid get this number. Yeah, eight point one yards

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<v Speaker 1>per play on RPOs. The only team that ran over

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred RPOs that had a better numbers the Dolphins.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's marginal difference.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's also a lot of it's a lot of yak,

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<v Speaker 2>but yeah, yeah, it feels like this is something they've

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<v Speaker 2>known they've got to be better at To go back

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<v Speaker 2>to your opening take about the draft, I know they're

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<v Speaker 2>hesitant to play rookies generally, especially in Week one. I

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<v Speaker 2>and I've said this, I don't want them to have

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<v Speaker 2>a base defense. When I say I don't mean base

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<v Speaker 2>defense in the sense at like three four, I mean

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<v Speaker 2>just like a you know, starting eleven these I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want them to have that. I want players rotating in

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<v Speaker 2>and out because the strength of this defense is the

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<v Speaker 2>potential to be multiple, the potential to be versatile and

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<v Speaker 2>not throwing the same looks repeatedly. That being said, and

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<v Speaker 2>I feel that way big picture, I want Marte Mapu

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<v Speaker 2>on the field Sunday. I want Marte Mapu on the

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<v Speaker 2>field a lot on Sunday because this is the guy

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<v Speaker 2>you drafted to go sideline to sideline and spy these

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<v Speaker 2>kinds of quarterbacks.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see it. Let's see if he can do it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and look, I know that it's a big jump

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<v Speaker 2>from where Marty maph is playing in college at Sacramento

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<v Speaker 2>State at the FCS level to the NFL level, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's so much great film of him at that level

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<v Speaker 2>closing on quarterbacks and taking down quarterbacks that are trying

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<v Speaker 2>to leave the pocket like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he can shoot out of a.

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon and he can close in a hurry, and those

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<v Speaker 2>are things that you need to be able to do

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<v Speaker 2>to put pressure on the QB. I think that's the

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<v Speaker 2>one thing that watching some Hurtz film over the last

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<v Speaker 2>cooking almost week now because it had that extra time

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<v Speaker 2>in the bye week, the one thing that you can

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<v Speaker 2>kind of get him on is that he doesn't handle

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<v Speaker 2>pressure quite as well as you know you would expect

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<v Speaker 2>for quarterbacks. The MVP runner up, I think that if

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<v Speaker 2>you can get him pressure under pressure, and I you know, look,

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<v Speaker 2>third and long is tough for every team, but this

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<v Speaker 2>team's efficiency relative to the rest of the league does

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<v Speaker 2>drop in third and long situations. Now, it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>said been done to get them into third and eight.

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<v Speaker 2>So but theoretically, if you can, they're they're human in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny you say that I'm writing my leg keys

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<v Speaker 1>to the game. They'll be up tomorrow ninety eight five

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sports sub dot Com. My overarching theme of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is easier said than done, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's the thing for this Patriots efense Bill said

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<v Speaker 1>it this week. Let me pull up the exact quote here,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill said this week, And of course my computers being

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<v Speaker 1>weird something about where is he here. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a big mystery about what they do. They just

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<v Speaker 1>do it well. They're well balanced, so you can't overplay

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<v Speaker 1>one thing without giving up something else. Yeah, we know

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<v Speaker 1>what they're gonna do. Bill knows what they're gonna do, Drawed,

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<v Speaker 1>Steve know what they're gonna do. They're just so freaking

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<v Speaker 1>good at it that sometimes it doesn't matter. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>should be look familiar to Patriots fans. That's how it

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<v Speaker 1>was run here for a long time. There are like

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<v Speaker 1>you look and we'll get into some of the specific stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there are a lot of elements in this game,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of elements in the matchup. You look at

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<v Speaker 1>and you're like, if the Patriots can do this, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have a chance. It's not a matter if they

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<v Speaker 1>have to identify it or recognize it or will if

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<v Speaker 1>A then B, if B then C. It's just do this,

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<v Speaker 1>but you have to be able to do it. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's where that again the umbrella thing for this game,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when you're talking about the Patriots defense is easier

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<v Speaker 1>said than done.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like they should have the horses on defense

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<v Speaker 2>now to be able to do it. They should have

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<v Speaker 2>the personnel.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying that they're going to shut out the Eagles, like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me wrong, right, but they should have the

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<v Speaker 2>personnel I think to hold the Eagles into the low twenties,

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<v Speaker 2>which should give them a chance to win the game.

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<v Speaker 2>And I really feel that strongly about that. The one thing,

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<v Speaker 2>and I don't want to get too bogged down right

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<v Speaker 2>off the top on this on the scheme, minution, all

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<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, and then.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be Catch twenty ten.

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<v Speaker 2>But I didn't well know we're going to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to kind of, you know, set up,

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<v Speaker 2>set the table here before we get all into it.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing I would just say about, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the one big thing that I would take away from

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<v Speaker 2>what they probably should do game plan wise, and I

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<v Speaker 2>want to explain why this isn't as scary as it sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>I truly believe that they should be playing man coverage

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<v Speaker 2>on early downs in this game. The one thing that

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<v Speaker 2>really gives defenses a ton of trouble when they try

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<v Speaker 2>to RPO go up against RPO teams is playing a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of spot drop zone because just in theory, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a linebacker, like if you're Juwan Bentley in spot

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<v Speaker 2>drop zone and you have the the middle hook right,

0:12:18.280 --> 0:12:20.160
<v Speaker 2>you have the middle of the field zone and the

0:12:20.320 --> 0:12:23.880
<v Speaker 2>short intermediate area eight yard zone, you have the middle

0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:26.120
<v Speaker 2>hook and you have the B gap, you can't be

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<v Speaker 2>both places right. So by rpoing you in that situation

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<v Speaker 2>where you're in zone and you have a coverage assignment

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<v Speaker 2>and you have a run responsibility, they can put you

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<v Speaker 2>in conflict and they can make you wrong the entire game.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you play the B gap, we're gonna throw it

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<v Speaker 2>by your ear, you play the pass lane, we're gonna

0:12:41.920 --> 0:12:43.959
<v Speaker 2>run it down your throat, You'll never be right. You'll

0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:46.680
<v Speaker 2>be on your heels the entire game. So what a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of college teams do, and a lot of teams

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<v Speaker 2>that have been successful in the NFL at stopping RPOs

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<v Speaker 2>do is they play a lot of man coverage and

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<v Speaker 2>essentially they treat it as two separate plays. Like the

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<v Speaker 2>seven guys in the box are playing run and the

0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:00.800
<v Speaker 2>guys on the outside are playing pass. But you don't

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<v Speaker 2>worry about the other responsibility. Right, So, Juwan Bentley, if

0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.640
<v Speaker 2>you're the Mike linebacker in this scenario, don't worry about

0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.560
<v Speaker 2>aj Brown, that's not your responsibility. Your responsibility is stopping

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<v Speaker 2>to run. And now what you take out of it

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<v Speaker 2>is the conflict element of it, like you don't have

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<v Speaker 2>to make these post snap reads and try to play

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<v Speaker 2>the cat and mouse game. I think that's the problem

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<v Speaker 2>that the Patriots run themselves into, is that they're too

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<v Speaker 2>passive against these RPO teams. Instead of trying to dictate terms,

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<v Speaker 2>instead of trying to be the more aggressive team, they

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<v Speaker 2>try to sit back and just read and react to everything.

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<v Speaker 2>And they don't have the athletes I think in the

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<v Speaker 2>year's past, and maybe they have those now, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think most of all, these two teams are just too

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<v Speaker 2>good at running the RPO element that it makes it

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<v Speaker 2>really difficult. Now, the adjustments will come. They'll have to come,

0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:52.080
<v Speaker 2>because what the Eagles will do is they might open

0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.960
<v Speaker 2>with their RPO package, test the Patriots on that, say

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<v Speaker 2>let's see what they got. Can they stop this? Because

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<v Speaker 2>we know they've had problems within the past. The Patriots

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<v Speaker 2>show that they can stop it, well, then they're just

0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna start throwing bombs away to the ISOs on the outside. Right,

0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:09.120
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna isolate AJ Brown on Christian Gonzales and it's

0:14:09.120 --> 0:14:11.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna be a go ball down the field, which I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if the Patriots really love that matchup in

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<v Speaker 2>that situation. So that's where the adjustments will have to

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<v Speaker 2>come in, and you'll see more off coverage or zone

0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:20.840
<v Speaker 2>coverage to protect against those things. But I think first

0:14:20.880 --> 0:14:23.320
<v Speaker 2>and foremost, you have to come out and you have

0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.400
<v Speaker 2>to play man to man. You have to be aggressive

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:27.320
<v Speaker 2>in the box, and you have to try to punch

0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.440
<v Speaker 2>them in the mouth right off the bat and try

0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:31.800
<v Speaker 2>to get them out of that sequencing. They are so

0:14:32.080 --> 0:14:35.640
<v Speaker 2>dangerous when they are just running those option elements, whether

0:14:35.680 --> 0:14:38.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just straight read option as a quarterback designed run

0:14:38.600 --> 0:14:41.960
<v Speaker 2>or it's RPO and all the window dressing they'll motion guys.

0:14:42.160 --> 0:14:45.320
<v Speaker 2>They have different types of route combinations they attach to it,

0:14:45.400 --> 0:14:48.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, screens, slant flats, curl flats, whatever the case

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<v Speaker 2>may be, and they have a bunch of different things

0:14:51.040 --> 0:14:53.320
<v Speaker 2>to throw at you in that package. If you can

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<v Speaker 2>get them into a drop back passing game, I like

0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:57.600
<v Speaker 2>your chances better because then you can start spinning the

0:14:57.640 --> 0:14:59.680
<v Speaker 2>dial on Hurtz, right, you know they can try to

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<v Speaker 2>sky and doing all those different things that they like

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<v Speaker 2>to do. This is a game for the Patriots defense.

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<v Speaker 2>That's all about getting the Eagles off schedule. If they're

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<v Speaker 2>ahead of the chains, they're gonna put up a ton

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<v Speaker 2>of points. Yeah, But if you can get them into

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<v Speaker 2>longer down in distances, if you can get some negative

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<v Speaker 2>plays out there, or just some incompletes on first downs,

0:15:18.880 --> 0:15:21.160
<v Speaker 2>right like, it doesn't necessarily have to be moving backwards.

0:15:21.320 --> 0:15:23.640
<v Speaker 2>If you can get them off schedule, then you have

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<v Speaker 2>a chance. And that's that's the that's the game right there.

0:15:26.800 --> 0:15:29.840
<v Speaker 2>To me is can they win on first and second

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<v Speaker 2>down often enough that they can get into third and

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<v Speaker 2>long where they can really start to scheme stuff up

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<v Speaker 2>and make things look different for Jalen Hurts.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me again that goes to slowing down those RPOs.

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<v Speaker 1>We can get in a coverag assignments in a second,

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<v Speaker 1>but slowing down those RPOs. And our friend Taylor Kyles

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<v Speaker 1>from seeing Us had a really good stat this week. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurts lasses. Last year, Jalen Hurts led the NFL

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<v Speaker 1>with a one to ten point eight passer rating from

0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:59.400
<v Speaker 1>the pocket that plummeted to twenty four when he scrambled.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's this weird mix of you need to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to knock Jalen Hearns hurts off his spot, but

0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you don't. You want him running, but you don't want

0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.360
<v Speaker 1>him to run, if that makes sense. You want to

0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:16.200
<v Speaker 1>create situations. You talk about the drop back passing game,

0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:17.840
<v Speaker 1>he's not. I mean a lot of this are the

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<v Speaker 1>receivers too, But like he can make players from the

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<v Speaker 1>pocket you want. I think this is a big week

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<v Speaker 1>where they got to make him uncomfortable, move him off

0:16:24.120 --> 0:16:25.760
<v Speaker 1>his spot. He wants to set his feet, whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>inside the pocket, whether it's outside the pocket, he wants

0:16:27.680 --> 0:16:30.520
<v Speaker 1>to set his feet. Don't let him set his feet

0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:32.400
<v Speaker 1>when they go to that traditional passing game and they'll

0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:34.920
<v Speaker 1>run things like RPOs to give him more chances to

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<v Speaker 1>throw from clean pockets. But it goes back to your point.

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<v Speaker 1>If you can keep them off schedule, some of that

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<v Speaker 1>stuff isn't as available.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think that when you say, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to pressure him, the worst thing that they can do

0:16:45.440 --> 0:16:47.600
<v Speaker 2>in this game, in my opinion as well, is the

0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:50.080
<v Speaker 2>mushrush stuff. Like, yeah, I think that's the worst thing

0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:50.600
<v Speaker 2>that you can do.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta get pressure with three or four.

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<v Speaker 2>You gotta try to come after him a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not talking about like zero blitzes and stuff like.

0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:58.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm not trying to say you should blitz him and

0:16:58.760 --> 0:17:00.920
<v Speaker 2>that's a mistake, but you need to try to come

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<v Speaker 2>after him a little bit with the front like Doud

0:17:02.920 --> 0:17:05.560
<v Speaker 2>jude On a Neuja do their thing. Don't try to

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<v Speaker 2>get those guys to just set the edge of the

0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:10.440
<v Speaker 2>defense and keep them in the pocket. So the response

0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.240
<v Speaker 2>to that is, all right, well, how do you contain

0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:14.639
<v Speaker 2>Jalen hurts his legs. They're gonna have to.

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<v Speaker 1>Use a spy And exactly, that's it that you want

0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 1>to force him out of the pocket. But then you

0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.800
<v Speaker 1>it's basically cat and mouse. You need jude on a

0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:23.720
<v Speaker 1>nucha to force him out of the pocket. But then

0:17:23.760 --> 0:17:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you need a guy like martem Up who are like

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<v Speaker 1>Kyle Dugger who's kind of there waiting when he turns

0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:30.359
<v Speaker 1>that corner that he doesn't have a lane to suddenly

0:17:30.440 --> 0:17:31.359
<v Speaker 1>run for twenty yards.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, And that's where I think in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>that's Marty mob Who's role, right and that's a it's

0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.119
<v Speaker 2>a situational role. To me, it's when they get him

0:17:42.119 --> 0:17:44.920
<v Speaker 2>into the longer down in distances where they're expecting drop

0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:47.760
<v Speaker 2>back pass. That's when he's gonna be on the field.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't think that Marty mop Who's gonna play

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily sixty five seventy snaps on Sunday, But he might

0:17:53.560 --> 0:17:56.520
<v Speaker 2>play twenty and they might be twenty really impoortly high

0:17:56.560 --> 0:17:58.760
<v Speaker 2>impact yaps. Yeah, And I think the biggest thing with

0:17:59.280 --> 0:18:02.879
<v Speaker 2>that too, with the spy element. And the Patriots usually

0:18:02.880 --> 0:18:05.959
<v Speaker 2>do a pretty good job about this, but they you

0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:08.200
<v Speaker 2>want to force him a certain direction. You don't want

0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.840
<v Speaker 2>to give him free rein or like you don't want

0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:11.919
<v Speaker 2>him to be able to escape anywhere he wants to go.

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.199
<v Speaker 2>But if you can close the arm side of the

0:18:14.200 --> 0:18:17.320
<v Speaker 2>pocket so to his right and force him left or

0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:19.840
<v Speaker 2>force him through the middle, it gives a guy like

0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:22.600
<v Speaker 2>Mapho a leg up of oh, I know where he's

0:18:22.600 --> 0:18:25.080
<v Speaker 2>gonna escape. If he's gonna run, he's gonna run this way.

0:18:25.280 --> 0:18:27.760
<v Speaker 2>What you don't want is him having a scan from

0:18:28.000 --> 0:18:29.840
<v Speaker 2>you know, tackle to tackle, being like where is he?

0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:31.760
<v Speaker 2>Where is he? Then you play that cat in mouse

0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:33.800
<v Speaker 2>game because Hurts will love that. What you want to

0:18:33.840 --> 0:18:36.159
<v Speaker 2>do is try to funnel him in a certain direction

0:18:36.520 --> 0:18:39.440
<v Speaker 2>so that Marty Mapho or I think mac Wilson. If

0:18:39.640 --> 0:18:41.760
<v Speaker 2>they don't think Marty Mopho is ready for it, I

0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.600
<v Speaker 2>think it might be mac Wilson. Those guys know, Okay,

0:18:45.600 --> 0:18:47.320
<v Speaker 2>I can be a step ahead because this is where

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:50.960
<v Speaker 2>we're going. So I feel like all these elements should

0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:52.960
<v Speaker 2>be there for the Patriots to execute at a pretty

0:18:53.000 --> 0:18:56.720
<v Speaker 2>high level. I would like to see a lot of

0:18:57.160 --> 0:18:59.960
<v Speaker 2>charging the mesh as well, which is basically different ways

0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:02.720
<v Speaker 2>to make that mesh point where he holds it. For

0:19:02.760 --> 0:19:06.280
<v Speaker 2>the read option. You want to accelerate the decision making there.

0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't want him to just be able to sit

0:19:07.800 --> 0:19:09.600
<v Speaker 2>there for two and a half seconds and read it

0:19:09.640 --> 0:19:13.280
<v Speaker 2>out and play the game with the chess match. Make

0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:17.080
<v Speaker 2>him make a quick decision, crash down, send a linebacker

0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.679
<v Speaker 2>from the second level, but make it happen quickly and

0:19:20.720 --> 0:19:24.119
<v Speaker 2>that way there he's making a split second decision versus

0:19:24.160 --> 0:19:26.920
<v Speaker 2>being able to string out the play and hold the football.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said we weren't going to get into the

0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.560
<v Speaker 2>scheme minutia, but that that was I said. I was

0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.000
<v Speaker 2>going to set the table first, but we didn't pant. Okay.

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.720
<v Speaker 2>The second thing I want to talk about was something

0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.679
<v Speaker 2>that I actually mentioned it and I just remembered, So

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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I remembered off the At the end of

0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:45.240
<v Speaker 2>the show last week, I said that I think this

0:19:45.320 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Eagles defense can can be had as well. And I

0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:49.280
<v Speaker 2>know I'm hyping this up, like the Patriots have this

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:51.840
<v Speaker 2>great chance in this game. You were right that this

0:19:51.960 --> 0:19:53.920
<v Speaker 2>is all easier said than done, right, So I'm not

0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:57.080
<v Speaker 2>sitting here, not sitting here saying that the Patriots have

0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.600
<v Speaker 2>all these advantages and all these types of things. This

0:19:59.720 --> 0:20:03.800
<v Speaker 2>is the epitome of easier said than done. I for

0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.080
<v Speaker 2>the most part, am not a fan of the Fangio defense.

0:20:07.240 --> 0:20:09.400
<v Speaker 2>I don't like it. I don't like it. I think

0:20:09.440 --> 0:20:14.240
<v Speaker 2>that for two reasons. One, I really feel like the

0:20:14.280 --> 0:20:17.040
<v Speaker 2>Fangio defense is basically just saying, we have really good

0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:19.840
<v Speaker 2>players on defense and we're just gonna rush four and

0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.480
<v Speaker 2>sit in zone and make you beat us, right, like cool,

0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:25.160
<v Speaker 2>like sick. They do a lot of disguising up top.

0:20:25.359 --> 0:20:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll give them that. You know, it's it's too high

0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:29.240
<v Speaker 2>out of the base of their defense, and then it

0:20:29.240 --> 0:20:32.480
<v Speaker 2>becomes one high becomes six, like you know, quarter quarter

0:20:32.520 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 2>half like they do that type of stuff, and that

0:20:34.640 --> 0:20:37.320
<v Speaker 2>can be difficult, especially for teams that run a lot

0:20:37.359 --> 0:20:40.439
<v Speaker 2>of route conversions and options, because is it six, is

0:20:40.440 --> 0:20:43.000
<v Speaker 2>it four? Is it three? Right? You have to decipher

0:20:43.040 --> 0:20:47.760
<v Speaker 2>all of that post nap. But this Eagles defense to

0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:50.280
<v Speaker 2>me is they're gonna sit in zone. They played They

0:20:50.280 --> 0:20:52.520
<v Speaker 2>played zone seventy one percent of the time. Last year.

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:55.320
<v Speaker 2>They hired the associate head coach of the Seahawks to

0:20:55.480 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>be the defensive coordinator. This year, it's gonna be a

0:20:57.560 --> 0:20:59.840
<v Speaker 2>zone team. They're gonna play a ton of zone. They

0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.000
<v Speaker 2>have some new faces in the safety room, in the

0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.800
<v Speaker 2>linebacker room that are gonna play big roles. The reason

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<v Speaker 2>why I mainly don't like the Fangio defense as much

0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>as maybe other people do one they don't really scheme

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.240
<v Speaker 2>up the pass rush a whole lot, Like you just

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:15.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of know the four guys that are coming, and

0:21:15.200 --> 0:21:17.320
<v Speaker 2>that's sort of the way that it plays out most

0:21:17.320 --> 0:21:20.240
<v Speaker 2>of the time. They do run some like creeper pressure

0:21:20.240 --> 0:21:22.520
<v Speaker 2>where they'll like send a linebacker and drop a guy

0:21:22.520 --> 0:21:25.199
<v Speaker 2>off the line of scrimmage, but for the most part,

0:21:24.920 --> 0:21:27.600
<v Speaker 2>you aren't getting a whole lot of exotics when it

0:21:27.600 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>comes to blitz package right, Like, it's not like a

0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.480
<v Speaker 2>Brian Florez blitz package or something like that. The other

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:37.199
<v Speaker 2>reason this is gonna shock you, This is gonna surprise you.

0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.639
<v Speaker 2>What's the last Fangio defense? And I can break You know,

0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:45.720
<v Speaker 2>rams run Fangio. Chargers run Fangio. The Broncos, of course

0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:49.119
<v Speaker 2>when he was their head coach, ran Fangio. And you

0:21:49.160 --> 0:21:51.960
<v Speaker 2>know this Eagles team runs Fangio. There's not a whole

0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:54.639
<v Speaker 2>lot of teams that run the Fangio system that stop

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the run. They're just they just don't care. Like they

0:21:57.440 --> 0:22:00.240
<v Speaker 2>play out of these two high shells. They I hope

0:22:00.240 --> 0:22:02.840
<v Speaker 2>that the front four can slow up the run. The

0:22:02.840 --> 0:22:06.880
<v Speaker 2>whole point of the Fangio front mechanics is that they

0:22:07.000 --> 0:22:09.920
<v Speaker 2>want to slow down the ball carrier in the run

0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 2>game long enough for the defensive backs to rally to

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:15.800
<v Speaker 2>the football and make stops on the ball. But they'll

0:22:15.840 --> 0:22:18.439
<v Speaker 2>give you the first four yards like that's gonna be

0:22:18.480 --> 0:22:21.199
<v Speaker 2>there all game long. This Eagles defense, as good as

0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.440
<v Speaker 2>it was last year, was twenty first in DVOA against

0:22:24.480 --> 0:22:26.679
<v Speaker 2>the run. They were not a great run defense. And

0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:30.879
<v Speaker 2>we've seen what's happened in I would say most importantly

0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:33.760
<v Speaker 2>in Charger Land, right, the Chargers can't stop the run

0:22:33.840 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 2>to save their lives out of the two high shells

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:37.840
<v Speaker 2>because they don't have the defensive lineman. They hates, they

0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:40.199
<v Speaker 2>don't care the Eagles to have the defensive lineman. But

0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 2>you can run on this team. You might not register

0:22:44.480 --> 0:22:45.600
<v Speaker 2>explosive runs.

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:45.880
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:22:45.960 --> 0:22:48.680
<v Speaker 2>That's how they get you is they don't. They're they're running.

0:22:49.119 --> 0:22:51.600
<v Speaker 2>They're allowing you those first four or five yards, but

0:22:51.680 --> 0:22:53.400
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna give up a lot of thirty five

0:22:53.480 --> 0:22:55.800
<v Speaker 2>yard runs. They're gonna give up the shorter runs, but

0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.760
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna give up the explosives. I would run

0:22:58.840 --> 0:23:02.960
<v Speaker 2>the Ball's not for the traditional reasons of like, oh

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:05.160
<v Speaker 2>we got to kill the clock and keep Jalen Hurts

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.920
<v Speaker 2>on the sideline. That is part of it. Maybe that's

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:10.040
<v Speaker 2>a secondary thing, but I I'm more concerned about putting

0:23:10.080 --> 0:23:12.080
<v Speaker 2>up points than I am of keeping Jalen Hurts on

0:23:12.080 --> 0:23:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the sideline. But the most part, I would run on

0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:18.880
<v Speaker 2>them because I think that eventually they will adjust and

0:23:18.920 --> 0:23:20.879
<v Speaker 2>they will try to spin the dial to get that

0:23:20.960 --> 0:23:23.120
<v Speaker 2>extra hat in the box, and then you will get

0:23:23.119 --> 0:23:26.240
<v Speaker 2>some single high structures that Mac can attack. So I

0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:29.119
<v Speaker 2>want them to run the football offensively. I think you

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.720
<v Speaker 2>can run the ball against this front, even though it's great,

0:23:32.240 --> 0:23:35.600
<v Speaker 2>and we already know that this entire offense, and this

0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.280
<v Speaker 2>is sort of, you know, the big picture with the

0:23:37.320 --> 0:23:40.439
<v Speaker 2>Fangio thing that I was discussing, we already know that

0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.560
<v Speaker 2>this offense is going to try to hit a lot

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.000
<v Speaker 2>of short passes. Like, I don't think that this offense,

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.600
<v Speaker 2>even if they weren't shorthanded on the offensive line and

0:23:48.640 --> 0:23:50.640
<v Speaker 2>facing the best pass rush in the league in Week one,

0:23:51.119 --> 0:23:52.840
<v Speaker 2>I still don't think mac Jones is holding the ball

0:23:52.880 --> 0:23:54.760
<v Speaker 2>a whole lot in this offense anyways, Like I don't

0:23:54.760 --> 0:23:57.119
<v Speaker 2>think that's the way the whole thing is designed. So

0:23:57.440 --> 0:23:59.119
<v Speaker 2>I like their ability to get the ball out of

0:23:59.119 --> 0:24:02.160
<v Speaker 2>Max hands in this game. I think the biggest thing

0:24:02.200 --> 0:24:06.200
<v Speaker 2>for them, if you're the Patriots offense that's gonna hold

0:24:06.240 --> 0:24:09.360
<v Speaker 2>them back is what we've talked about all summer long,

0:24:09.400 --> 0:24:11.879
<v Speaker 2>with the offensive line against this front, and that's the

0:24:11.920 --> 0:24:14.240
<v Speaker 2>easier said than done piece, right, Like can you actually

0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:17.560
<v Speaker 2>block it is a whole different question. But I think schematically,

0:24:17.600 --> 0:24:21.159
<v Speaker 2>from a fundamental standpoint, this defense has more holes in

0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:24.439
<v Speaker 2>it than people maybe think because of where they ranked

0:24:24.520 --> 0:24:26.760
<v Speaker 2>last year in against the pass. I think they were

0:24:26.840 --> 0:24:28.840
<v Speaker 2>number one pass defense in the league. They led the

0:24:28.920 --> 0:24:31.240
<v Speaker 2>league in sacks. But I think at the end of

0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the day, I don't like zone teams. I don't think

0:24:34.880 --> 0:24:40.320
<v Speaker 2>it's too like. I don't think it's that grow yeah

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 2>kind of like, I just don't think it's that sophisticated.

0:24:43.200 --> 0:24:46.000
<v Speaker 2>Like if you have the legion to boom, then by

0:24:46.040 --> 0:24:48.200
<v Speaker 2>all means like sit and cover three all games long.

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.800
<v Speaker 2>But these teams that play all this zone, like these

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:54.240
<v Speaker 2>Fangio teams do, their whole identity is to keep the

0:24:54.280 --> 0:24:58.239
<v Speaker 2>top on the defense and limit explosive plays. Fine, like,

0:24:59.119 --> 0:25:01.760
<v Speaker 2>so Mac Jones, I don't be throwing bombs this week,

0:25:01.800 --> 0:25:04.960
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't know understand why. If you're the Patriots offense,

0:25:05.000 --> 0:25:07.600
<v Speaker 2>that would be a problem for you, right, Like right,

0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:10.360
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's a deterrent for you. You don't

0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:12.520
<v Speaker 2>want to hold the ball anyway because you have who

0:25:12.560 --> 0:25:14.600
<v Speaker 2>God only knows who at right tackle trying to block

0:25:14.680 --> 0:25:16.159
<v Speaker 2>us on Reddick. So you don't want to hold the

0:25:16.160 --> 0:25:19.399
<v Speaker 2>ball anyways, and you want to be a death by

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:22.239
<v Speaker 2>a thousand paper cuts offense, So have at it. If

0:25:22.240 --> 0:25:25.640
<v Speaker 2>they played too high, cover four, cover six, things like that.

0:25:25.960 --> 0:25:29.200
<v Speaker 2>Run the ball and take your slants right like it's

0:25:29.640 --> 0:25:31.800
<v Speaker 2>And that's where I think that this defense can be had,

0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.240
<v Speaker 2>so that that's both sides of the ball for you.

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:36.680
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you feel about the Eagles defense, And.

0:25:36.720 --> 0:25:39.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of the same. Just to put some

0:25:39.119 --> 0:25:41.679
<v Speaker 1>numbers behind what you said. Everybody thinks of the Eagles

0:25:41.680 --> 0:25:43.639
<v Speaker 1>as this elite pass rush and I'm not saying they're not.

0:25:43.840 --> 0:25:46.720
<v Speaker 1>But they blitzed. Their blitz rate last year was twenty

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.199
<v Speaker 1>two point one percent. It's eighteenth in the league. So

0:25:49.240 --> 0:25:51.159
<v Speaker 1>they weren't. They were blitzing less than average. It's not

0:25:51.200 --> 0:25:53.960
<v Speaker 1>like it's not like the Jets who don't blitz, right,

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.919
<v Speaker 1>it's significantly less than average. And if we do some

0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:58.600
<v Speaker 1>quick math on the air, Evan, and this is the

0:25:58.680 --> 0:26:00.920
<v Speaker 1>kind of math I believe is a plic If you're

0:26:00.920 --> 0:26:03.800
<v Speaker 1>not blitzing, how many players you're rushing four? And how

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.920
<v Speaker 1>many players will the Patriots have to block those rushers

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>five at least? So you have an extra guy. You

0:26:09.359 --> 0:26:11.400
<v Speaker 1>have an extra guy. Now this is where the easier

0:26:11.440 --> 0:26:13.040
<v Speaker 1>said than done thing comes in. You talk about this

0:26:13.119 --> 0:26:17.159
<v Speaker 1>a lot. It's kind of a saying with Offenselime py right,

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:19.080
<v Speaker 1>you can cover up one spot and be okay. It's

0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:20.920
<v Speaker 1>when you have to cover up multiple spots. And that,

0:26:21.160 --> 0:26:23.920
<v Speaker 1>to me is what the question is for the Patriots

0:26:24.000 --> 0:26:27.120
<v Speaker 1>offense in this game. They're probably gonna have to cover

0:26:27.200 --> 0:26:29.600
<v Speaker 1>up right tackle. I think we feel that even if

0:26:29.640 --> 0:26:31.639
<v Speaker 1>Calvin anders like, we don't know what Calvin Anderson is.

0:26:31.680 --> 0:26:32.959
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to throw him under the bus right

0:26:33.000 --> 0:26:34.440
<v Speaker 1>away and say, oh, he you know, he needs to

0:26:34.480 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 1>be compensated for, but he really doesn't played. He was

0:26:38.080 --> 0:26:40.320
<v Speaker 1>on NFI all summer. Kind of shape is he and

0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:43.159
<v Speaker 1>he hasn't been with this group. So if he's the

0:26:43.200 --> 0:26:47.760
<v Speaker 1>guy you're covering up, fine, what does that mean for

0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.159
<v Speaker 1>cold Strange because last year, so last year, there were

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.119
<v Speaker 1>three different spots over the course of the season they

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>had to cover up at times his left guard, at times,

0:26:55.680 --> 0:26:57.680
<v Speaker 1>it was center, at times it was right tackle. Yeah,

0:26:57.720 --> 0:26:59.520
<v Speaker 1>and there were times where it was only one And

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:02.200
<v Speaker 1>that's when the offensive line looked. They were eleventh last

0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.960
<v Speaker 1>year in pressure rate allowed, So they weren't as bad

0:27:05.960 --> 0:27:07.520
<v Speaker 1>as it Maybe they were as bad as it seemed,

0:27:07.520 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 1>but that's kind of a league thing. They weren't that

0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:12.560
<v Speaker 1>much below the norm. Where it got ugly was right

0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.199
<v Speaker 1>when David Andrews went out and now you have to

0:27:15.240 --> 0:27:17.920
<v Speaker 1>help at center, but you were also helping it left guard,

0:27:18.000 --> 0:27:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and now you're putting your left guard on an island.

0:27:19.640 --> 0:27:21.680
<v Speaker 1>And as we saw, he struggled with that. Aul Strange

0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:24.080
<v Speaker 1>struggled that or when it became a mess at right

0:27:24.119 --> 0:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>tackle and now you're shading coverage that way. Can Cole

0:27:28.160 --> 0:27:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Strange of this? Can Cole Strange hole And I'm not

0:27:32.280 --> 0:27:34.359
<v Speaker 1>saying he Kenry can't. We don't know. He didn't practice

0:27:34.359 --> 0:27:36.000
<v Speaker 1>all summer. We have no idea what his year two

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>jump is.

0:27:36.720 --> 0:27:38.919
<v Speaker 2>He's gonna have Jalen Carter lined up over him, He's

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:42.120
<v Speaker 2>gonna have Fletcher Cox lined up over right. These are

0:27:42.119 --> 0:27:43.040
<v Speaker 2>big boys coming.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 1>He needs to He needs to win those one on

0:27:45.520 --> 0:27:47.960
<v Speaker 1>one essentially for the Patriots offense to really be able

0:27:48.000 --> 0:27:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to move the ball. Cole Strange is gonna have to

0:27:49.960 --> 0:27:53.159
<v Speaker 1>win one on one against Jalen Carter, Jordan Davis, Fletcher Cox.

0:27:53.880 --> 0:27:55.600
<v Speaker 1>You add to it some of what you said. They

0:27:55.600 --> 0:27:59.560
<v Speaker 1>can build in some mechanics that naturally slow down the rush.

0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.600
<v Speaker 1>Don't like guys pin their ears back RPO play actions

0:28:02.720 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>screens things like that that are a big part of

0:28:05.480 --> 0:28:09.520
<v Speaker 1>Bill O'Brien's offense naturally, so that should help. And then

0:28:09.560 --> 0:28:12.560
<v Speaker 1>there's also that element of all right, so it's what

0:28:12.640 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 1>was it four verse five? How often do you want

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:16.639
<v Speaker 1>to go four verse six and you bring in Pharaoh

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Brown or you leave a running back into block, or

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:22.240
<v Speaker 1>you even go, you know, Tyrone Wheat leavedarian low tackle eligible.

0:28:23.119 --> 0:28:25.119
<v Speaker 1>But that's what that's what it comes down to to me.

0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:28.360
<v Speaker 1>Can the Patriots five be better than the Eagles four?

0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Is that one player advantage enough to make a difference

0:28:31.119 --> 0:28:33.080
<v Speaker 1>because the Eagles aren't gonna blitz a lot. They're not,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:36.440
<v Speaker 1>and honestly, this is a game where to me, they'll

0:28:36.480 --> 0:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>probably blitz less. That's an average for seventeen games of

0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.720
<v Speaker 1>twenty two point one percent. I would think in a

0:28:41.760 --> 0:28:43.960
<v Speaker 1>matchup like this, and if there is gonna be a

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 1>change they've talked about, they don't want to make a

0:28:45.800 --> 0:28:48.480
<v Speaker 1>big change with the defensive coordinator. If there is gonna

0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.280
<v Speaker 1>be a change, I would think you blitz less comings

0:28:50.320 --> 0:28:53.200
<v Speaker 1>than that Seattle system. So you should have that five

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.280
<v Speaker 1>on four a significant amount of the time on Sunday.

0:28:56.680 --> 0:28:59.920
<v Speaker 1>You just need to win five on four goes back

0:28:59.920 --> 0:29:02.400
<v Speaker 1>to the to that concept. It's easier said, like I

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 1>can say sit here and say, yeah, five guys should

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>be able to block four guys. Well, when those four

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:09.280
<v Speaker 1>guys are the Eagles defensive front, it's a little different.

0:29:09.360 --> 0:29:11.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Well, I think you make a great point about

0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:13.320
<v Speaker 2>to sigh and what he's going to bring over here.

0:29:13.320 --> 0:29:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So Seattle, I believe, was the least blitzing team in

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:16.800
<v Speaker 2>the NFL.

0:29:16.560 --> 0:29:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Second second least. The Jets were at fourteen point nine

0:29:20.040 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>percent jet. I know their numbers are a little different

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 1>than I'm a loyal PFR guy.

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so that's fine. Seattle doesn't blitz a lot and

0:29:31.000 --> 0:29:35.240
<v Speaker 2>they're both significantly low. But what what's astounding about how

0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:38.280
<v Speaker 2>many sacks the Eagles piled up last year is that

0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 2>they were a middle of the road blitz team. They

0:29:41.280 --> 0:29:44.240
<v Speaker 2>were dead last in the league in stunts, right like

0:29:44.800 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 2>tackle end stuns or pick plays and things like that,

0:29:47.440 --> 0:29:50.200
<v Speaker 2>dead last. And they were also near the bottom of

0:29:50.240 --> 0:29:53.320
<v Speaker 2>the league and simulated or creeper pressure. So they just

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:56.240
<v Speaker 2>rushed for like that, That's just what they did. They

0:29:56.320 --> 0:29:58.680
<v Speaker 2>just had four coming at you every single game, and

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:03.400
<v Speaker 2>they accumulated d Sachs by just rushing four guys right

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>where you thought that they were going to be, and

0:30:06.000 --> 0:30:08.560
<v Speaker 2>they still were able to get to the quarterback seventy times,

0:30:08.560 --> 0:30:13.440
<v Speaker 2>which is incredible. That's incredible in itself. But this is

0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.840
<v Speaker 2>one thing that I think gets a little bit flies

0:30:16.920 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 2>under the radar because they were not local in Philadelphia.

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:21.600
<v Speaker 2>This is one of those things that, like we would

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 2>talk about about the Patriots because we know the Patriots

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:26.240
<v Speaker 2>so well, but we started talking about the other thirty two,

0:30:26.360 --> 0:30:28.800
<v Speaker 2>especially teams in the NFC, it might get lost in

0:30:28.840 --> 0:30:34.640
<v Speaker 2>the weeds. Eagles fans hated Jonathan Gannon. They hated Jonathan

0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:39.200
<v Speaker 2>Gannon not because of like the hard knock style stuff

0:30:39.240 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 2>that we've seen from the Cardinals release a little bit of.

0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:44.840
<v Speaker 2>They hated Jonathan Gannon because of how vanilla he was

0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.480
<v Speaker 2>in the pass rush. They never blitzed, they never ran

0:30:47.520 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 2>any simulated pressure, they never ran any sort of exotic

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:53.960
<v Speaker 2>pressure looks up front ever, and Eagles fans it drove

0:30:54.000 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>him nuts. They thought it was a deterrent to their

0:30:56.800 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 2>team that they weren't doing this. Now zone teams don't.

0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:02.080
<v Speaker 2>It's a lot because they want to keep the seven

0:31:02.080 --> 0:31:05.560
<v Speaker 2>guys in coverage right because you're covering grass everywhere, and

0:31:05.600 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 2>if you start to take spa distribution, yeah, if you

0:31:08.480 --> 0:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>start taking guys out of coverage, then you're trying to

0:31:11.520 --> 0:31:13.800
<v Speaker 2>cover space with six guys instead of seven, and you,

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:17.080
<v Speaker 2>guys get the idea. The one thing that the Seattle

0:31:17.120 --> 0:31:19.560
<v Speaker 2>did a little bit more than Philadelphia did, and I

0:31:19.560 --> 0:31:22.160
<v Speaker 2>think the side will probably bring with him to Philadelphia

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.880
<v Speaker 2>are creeper pressures, which is when you rush somebody from

0:31:26.920 --> 0:31:29.800
<v Speaker 2>the back seven, so a linebacker or a safety or

0:31:29.840 --> 0:31:32.880
<v Speaker 2>somebody from the back seven level, but you drop a

0:31:32.920 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 2>player off from the line of scrimmage. So we see

0:31:36.200 --> 0:31:38.479
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots do this all the time with Matthew Judon

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.280
<v Speaker 2>last year at times like that Raider game where Juwan

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:44.960
<v Speaker 2>Bentley is gonna blitz up the middle and Judon's gonna

0:31:45.000 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 2>drop off the edge and replace him in the coverage.

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:49.560
<v Speaker 2>So you still keep your numbers in both the rush

0:31:49.600 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>and the coverage the same, but the pressure is coming

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.560
<v Speaker 2>from a different direction than what you're expecting pre snap.

0:31:54.840 --> 0:31:56.400
<v Speaker 2>So I think that there's gonna be some of that.

0:31:56.920 --> 0:32:00.280
<v Speaker 2>All that is post snap diagnosis. Right, you have a

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.320
<v Speaker 2>lot of the time, like they'll say, all right, the

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.040
<v Speaker 2>left guard and the left tackle, you have two of

0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:08.400
<v Speaker 2>the three guys over here. If two guys come, then

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:09.600
<v Speaker 2>you got to block both of them.

0:32:09.680 --> 0:32:09.840
<v Speaker 1>Right.

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>If three guys come, the third guys on the quarterback

0:32:12.720 --> 0:32:14.880
<v Speaker 2>or sometimes it's three over four, and we're gonna have

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the center open to that direction and then you guys

0:32:17.960 --> 0:32:21.360
<v Speaker 2>have three. If fourth guy comes, then Mac is hot.

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Mack's got to get the ball out at that point.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:24.960
<v Speaker 2>So those are the types of things that they will

0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:26.560
<v Speaker 2>have to work through, I think a little bit more

0:32:26.600 --> 0:32:29.400
<v Speaker 2>than what the Eagles did last year, but in general,

0:32:30.120 --> 0:32:32.840
<v Speaker 2>it's what builds it. Their structure is their structure. They're

0:32:32.880 --> 0:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>not choosing.

0:32:33.560 --> 0:32:36.479
<v Speaker 1>There's no you know, oh well, they'll disguise this, and

0:32:36.640 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 1>we have to be ready if they show this look.

0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.480
<v Speaker 1>It could be three or four things. And but this

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.640
<v Speaker 1>is where again it goes back to we've talked about

0:32:43.680 --> 0:32:45.880
<v Speaker 1>this a lot. What is Bill of Brian's offense predicated on,

0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:49.080
<v Speaker 1>Get to the line, identify what you're seeing, check to

0:32:49.120 --> 0:32:51.719
<v Speaker 1>the play that matches the identification, and go. And if

0:32:51.760 --> 0:32:53.560
<v Speaker 1>you do that correctly, odds are you're gonna have a

0:32:53.560 --> 0:32:55.320
<v Speaker 1>successful place. It not gonna be a touchdown every time,

0:32:55.360 --> 0:32:58.680
<v Speaker 1>but you'll move the ball. There's no the Eagles aren't

0:32:58.680 --> 0:33:02.160
<v Speaker 1>disguising it. It's they're just again. It's that thing, especially

0:33:02.160 --> 0:33:04.000
<v Speaker 1>on the defensive front with four on five and they're

0:33:04.040 --> 0:33:06.840
<v Speaker 1>still they got seventy sacks because they are just better.

0:33:07.320 --> 0:33:11.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not scheme, it's not disguised, it's not there. You

0:33:11.960 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>gotta be better than them, period.

0:33:13.280 --> 0:33:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what it is. They do disguise a little

0:33:15.000 --> 0:33:17.840
<v Speaker 2>bit on the back end, but it's it's safety rotation,

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:20.000
<v Speaker 2>right like they always start in a two high shell.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:22.680
<v Speaker 2>Every Fangio defense starts in that too high shell. They

0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 2>played most of their coverage snaps last year and cover three,

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.400
<v Speaker 2>so they'll start too high, and then they'll rotate the

0:33:28.400 --> 0:33:31.920
<v Speaker 2>buzz defender into the box to play the crossers coming

0:33:32.000 --> 0:33:35.239
<v Speaker 2>from the passing strength, and then they'll have the one

0:33:35.360 --> 0:33:38.719
<v Speaker 2>high shell. But for the most part you're talking about

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.960
<v Speaker 2>just like post snap safety rotations. You're not talking about

0:33:42.200 --> 0:33:47.080
<v Speaker 2>the Patriots. They they are diabolical defensively with their disguising,

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>so they'll drop. I think what a great example is

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 2>one of my favorite examples was Kyle Duggar's pick six

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:57.840
<v Speaker 2>against Miami last year. They showed Cover zero pre snap,

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 2>it was Tampa two. After this snag right, they rotated

0:34:01.400 --> 0:34:04.240
<v Speaker 2>the entire Kyle Duggar rotated from the line of scrimmage

0:34:04.600 --> 0:34:07.800
<v Speaker 2>into the deep Tampa two hole and was formed to

0:34:07.800 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 2>cover two defense from what looked like zero.

0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 1>The Eagles don't do that game you see anything.

0:34:12.400 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>That they They rotate their safeties, but they don't disguise

0:34:15.000 --> 0:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>on that kind of level. But at the end of

0:34:16.920 --> 0:34:19.479
<v Speaker 2>the day, as we keep saying, easier said than done,

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.280
<v Speaker 2>because the Eagles have a lot of a lot.

0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:23.719
<v Speaker 1>Of dogs, just go block Fletcher Cox one on one.

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>When I say a lot of dogs, yes, they have

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:28.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot of Georgia bulldogs, but they also have they

0:34:28.480 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 2>also have a lot of dogs like they just also

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:32.399
<v Speaker 2>have a lot of really good players, and that can

0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:34.399
<v Speaker 2>be problematic. All right, let's open up the phone lines

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>that we can discuss this matchup with you guys. There's

0:34:37.239 --> 0:34:39.359
<v Speaker 2>a couple more scheme things or you know, game plan

0:34:39.440 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>things that we want to get into, as well as

0:34:41.000 --> 0:34:43.480
<v Speaker 2>some matchups and things like that. But let's see what

0:34:43.520 --> 0:34:45.759
<v Speaker 2>the people have to say, Alex, let's start with Sean

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:49.680
<v Speaker 2>and Vancouver. Sean, thanks for staying on hold. What's up, hey, Evan?

0:34:49.719 --> 0:34:53.040
<v Speaker 4>Now that's your Patriots offensive coordinator. I have some plays

0:34:53.040 --> 0:34:55.120
<v Speaker 4>that I want to run by you. When the Patriots

0:34:55.120 --> 0:34:58.720
<v Speaker 4>are first goal, I'd like to bring in a jumbo package,

0:34:58.719 --> 0:35:00.680
<v Speaker 4>try and rump the middle of it doesn't work, have

0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:04.720
<v Speaker 4>the same personnel, and go play action pass role option.

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:05.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, what do you think?

0:35:06.080 --> 0:35:09.080
<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I appreciate the call, and yeah, if you

0:35:09.080 --> 0:35:10.879
<v Speaker 2>want to send plays into me, because I guess that's

0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the thing, And thanks Sean for the call. Evanlacraft se

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.520
<v Speaker 2>dot com. There you go, send them in, send me

0:35:16.560 --> 0:35:19.080
<v Speaker 2>in the drawings, right, go draw them up and show

0:35:19.120 --> 0:35:23.839
<v Speaker 2>me what you got. You mentioned six offensive lineman at

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:26.919
<v Speaker 2>one point. I actually really like that in this game

0:35:26.920 --> 0:35:29.560
<v Speaker 2>for a couple of reasons. One reason is, as I mentioned,

0:35:29.840 --> 0:35:32.000
<v Speaker 2>they play out of that too high shell. They can

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 2>be run on. I don't think that they're gonna change

0:35:34.880 --> 0:35:37.160
<v Speaker 2>what they do just because you bring a sixth offensive

0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 2>lineman in the game. So I think you could really

0:35:39.520 --> 0:35:43.240
<v Speaker 2>open up in this game. First drive six offensive lineman

0:35:43.560 --> 0:35:46.359
<v Speaker 2>and run it pretty effectively. I think the other thing

0:35:46.480 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 2>is is that when you go six offensive line, you

0:35:49.360 --> 0:35:53.560
<v Speaker 2>think about it is short yardage or a game plan wrinkle, right,

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Like those are the two different things that you think of.

0:35:55.880 --> 0:35:58.319
<v Speaker 2>They can dial up play action off of that, and

0:35:58.360 --> 0:36:01.359
<v Speaker 2>if Philly is gonna play zone, then they only need

0:36:01.400 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 2>three routes, right, Like, they don't need to put five

0:36:03.719 --> 0:36:06.040
<v Speaker 2>guys in the route if Philly's playing zone, because you

0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>can just overload it to one side of the field.

0:36:08.600 --> 0:36:10.480
<v Speaker 2>So if you're playing cover three and you have the

0:36:10.480 --> 0:36:13.280
<v Speaker 2>flat defender and you have the Cover three the deep third,

0:36:13.800 --> 0:36:16.359
<v Speaker 2>if you run three receivers into that zone, it's two

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:17.399
<v Speaker 2>gas two.

0:36:17.480 --> 0:36:19.200
<v Speaker 1>It goes back to that thing because it's like, you're

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:21.279
<v Speaker 1>right with man, You've got to match the concepts because

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 1>you're trying to manipulate defenders, manipulate space. You're not doing

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.960
<v Speaker 1>that against zone because the defenders are going to do

0:36:27.080 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 1>what they're going to do. Yeah, and it goes back

0:36:29.520 --> 0:36:31.439
<v Speaker 1>to the thing where you kind of know where they're

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:33.359
<v Speaker 1>gonna cover, where they're gonna not. You know where you're

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:35.320
<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to run guys to and get them open.

0:36:36.000 --> 0:36:38.160
<v Speaker 1>But you gotta be able to do it. Yeah, easier

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:38.600
<v Speaker 1>said than.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.720
<v Speaker 2>Kansas City used a lot of flood concepts, so though

0:36:42.040 --> 0:36:44.359
<v Speaker 2>what they what I really liked about Kansas City's plan

0:36:44.440 --> 0:36:46.480
<v Speaker 2>in the Super Bowl is that they use a lot

0:36:46.520 --> 0:36:49.399
<v Speaker 2>of motion to cover the flat right, So they would

0:36:49.480 --> 0:36:53.280
<v Speaker 2>motion like Kadarius Tony or Sky Moore across the formation

0:36:53.760 --> 0:36:55.600
<v Speaker 2>and he would run a flat route and that would

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 2>hold the flat defender. Then the other side of the

0:36:58.080 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 2>formation that would run a vertical and then they would

0:37:00.600 --> 0:37:02.400
<v Speaker 2>just run like a flag pattern and fill it in

0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.719
<v Speaker 2>with Travis Kelcey and they're just they're just overloading the

0:37:05.800 --> 0:37:07.839
<v Speaker 2>zone on that side of the field, and then it's

0:37:07.880 --> 0:37:10.120
<v Speaker 2>just a simple high low read for Patrick Mahomes. If

0:37:10.680 --> 0:37:13.520
<v Speaker 2>the defender backs down off the flat and covers Kelsey

0:37:13.560 --> 0:37:15.240
<v Speaker 2>on the flag route, then you just throw the flat

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>and you just take their yards underneath.

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:18.239
<v Speaker 1>The defence and they'll and if they give that to

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.200
<v Speaker 1>you take it all day. And then we get down

0:37:20.239 --> 0:37:21.360
<v Speaker 1>on the red zone, you're on the football.

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:24.959
<v Speaker 2>That's a profit. So uh, that's a that's a good point.

0:37:25.000 --> 0:37:27.800
<v Speaker 2>Six offensive line the goal line, six offensive line. I

0:37:27.800 --> 0:37:29.799
<v Speaker 2>don't I like that as well, especially because they're not

0:37:29.760 --> 0:37:31.440
<v Speaker 2>going to have a full back. It doesn't seem like

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:34.320
<v Speaker 2>so I like them going six offensive line short yardage.

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 2>One nitpick on Sean's call. Don't love rolling the pocket

0:37:38.880 --> 0:37:41.840
<v Speaker 2>on the goal line. Don't like it because it shrinks

0:37:41.840 --> 0:37:42.680
<v Speaker 2>the space that you have.

0:37:42.680 --> 0:37:45.880
<v Speaker 1>To work I do think you need to roll. You

0:37:45.960 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>need to roll a little bit in this game. You

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:49.279
<v Speaker 1>need to reset the pocket because again it don't do

0:37:49.320 --> 0:37:51.480
<v Speaker 1>it a lot, and not saying like designed bootlegs for

0:37:51.560 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 1>mac Jones, but when you move the pocket every once

0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:55.800
<v Speaker 1>in a while to another one of those things that

0:37:55.920 --> 0:37:57.799
<v Speaker 1>upsets the timing of the pass rush. But you can

0:37:57.840 --> 0:37:58.920
<v Speaker 1>do that between the twenties.

0:37:59.160 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>I just don't love of shrinking the field because the

0:38:01.560 --> 0:38:05.160
<v Speaker 2>shrink in the red zone, the field is already so condensed. Yeah,

0:38:05.160 --> 0:38:06.759
<v Speaker 2>so then when you start shrinking it now, all of

0:38:06.800 --> 0:38:09.560
<v Speaker 2>a sudden, you're really only dealing with like a four

0:38:09.680 --> 0:38:13.160
<v Speaker 2>x four buds. I'm with you, that's my philosophy. Unless

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:15.560
<v Speaker 2>you have a quarterback that's a threat to run it

0:38:15.560 --> 0:38:17.840
<v Speaker 2>in and you can just turn the turn the rollout

0:38:17.840 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>into a natural boot leg and score. Like you don't

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.440
<v Speaker 2>need to be rolling out in the red zone. But

0:38:22.560 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>again I do hope they do some.

0:38:24.600 --> 0:38:27.920
<v Speaker 1>Rollouts at some point two or three couple, but just

0:38:28.239 --> 0:38:30.080
<v Speaker 1>give them one early so that the guys on on

0:38:30.120 --> 0:38:31.680
<v Speaker 1>that side of the line. It gives the defensive ends

0:38:31.680 --> 0:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>something to think about. Hey, I can't get up field

0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.880
<v Speaker 1>too quick because if they roll it out behind me,

0:38:36.239 --> 0:38:37.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm out of the play.

0:38:37.160 --> 0:38:39.400
<v Speaker 2>See. I like on the goal line. They ran a

0:38:39.400 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 2>lot of this in training camp, which I really like.

0:38:42.440 --> 0:38:44.560
<v Speaker 2>They have you know, two it's two by two, right,

0:38:44.560 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>so they have two receivers over here and two receivers

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 2>to his right, and they're usually in some sort of stack,

0:38:50.080 --> 0:38:53.960
<v Speaker 2>and it's two different route concepts of what they're running.

0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:56.240
<v Speaker 2>And then he just sign of looks at the structure

0:38:56.239 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 2>of the defense and then decides which side of.

0:38:58.520 --> 0:39:00.960
<v Speaker 1>The field to read which covery, you know, based on

0:39:01.000 --> 0:39:03.200
<v Speaker 1>the coverage? Am I going with with concept? Air concept?

0:39:03.239 --> 0:39:04.279
<v Speaker 1>Am I going left and right?

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>All right? John's in Louisiana. What's up?

0:39:06.960 --> 0:39:07.200
<v Speaker 1>John?

0:39:09.120 --> 0:39:12.640
<v Speaker 3>Hey? Hey, heaven offense the coordinator?

0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. Maybe we'll see.

0:39:16.200 --> 0:39:18.600
<v Speaker 3>But I want to go into the that you were

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 3>talking about. A lot of people aren't talking about that.

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:23.600
<v Speaker 3>They loved Javon Hargrave. That's not gonna be an easier

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 3>place you get a rookie, But I mean, like Javon R.

0:39:26.880 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 3>And you're losing the guys. Who's the chunky. I think

0:39:31.000 --> 0:39:33.640
<v Speaker 3>we would be able to pass on them.

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I think we lost them.

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:37.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that was the call. I'll say that they lost.

0:39:37.560 --> 0:39:41.080
<v Speaker 1>They lost Hargrave, who did have eleven sacks last year. Yeah,

0:39:41.280 --> 0:39:42.919
<v Speaker 1>they have two other guys returning to go to eleven

0:39:42.960 --> 0:39:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick at sixteen. They also had a Jalen Carter,

0:39:45.520 --> 0:39:47.120
<v Speaker 1>who a lot of people thought was the most talented

0:39:47.120 --> 0:39:47.880
<v Speaker 1>player in the draft.

0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Jalen Carter worries me and this guy'll.

0:39:50.000 --> 0:39:52.680
<v Speaker 1>They'll be fine without Javon Hargrave. You want to He's

0:39:52.680 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 1>a good player. But Carter Johnson maybe a little bit

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.719
<v Speaker 1>of a tougher replacement. We got talking about this, they're

0:39:57.760 --> 0:40:01.359
<v Speaker 1>not if you can get it blocked, you're gonna get

0:40:01.400 --> 0:40:02.040
<v Speaker 1>guys open.

0:40:02.160 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you just.

0:40:03.280 --> 0:40:05.359
<v Speaker 1>Gotta gotta get a blocked said done.

0:40:05.400 --> 0:40:09.560
<v Speaker 2>Gardner Johnson is is an interesting replacement. So they'd signed

0:40:09.600 --> 0:40:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Terrell Edmunds from the Steelers. Yeah, who's kind of like

0:40:12.239 --> 0:40:15.480
<v Speaker 2>a Kyle Duggar like safety nickel type of player. And

0:40:15.520 --> 0:40:17.759
<v Speaker 2>then they also have Avonte Maddox who can be more

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:20.200
<v Speaker 2>of like a natural slot corner. And so those are

0:40:20.239 --> 0:40:23.640
<v Speaker 2>their two guys who replace Chauncey Gardner Johnson. But Johncey

0:40:23.640 --> 0:40:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Gardner Johnson is a really underrated player. He can play

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 2>safety and he can play nickel, and he's physical, So

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 2>he can hold up against the run as well, playing

0:40:31.520 --> 0:40:34.440
<v Speaker 2>closer to the line of scrimmage. That's a really key

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:37.840
<v Speaker 2>role in the Fangio defense because you're playing out of

0:40:37.880 --> 0:40:41.000
<v Speaker 2>those lighter boxes and you're playing out a lighter personnel.

0:40:41.440 --> 0:40:43.759
<v Speaker 2>You need to have a nickel that's willing to stick

0:40:43.760 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 2>his hat in there in the run game. And Chauncey

0:40:46.120 --> 0:40:49.440
<v Speaker 2>Gardner Johnson was able to do that. So Terrell Edmonds

0:40:49.480 --> 0:40:51.279
<v Speaker 2>is a bigger, thicker guy. Like like I said, he's

0:40:51.360 --> 0:40:53.200
<v Speaker 2>kind of like a Kyle Duggart type, so I think

0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:55.160
<v Speaker 2>he should be able to do that as well. But

0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:57.720
<v Speaker 2>then it has a trickle down effect on their safety group.

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Blaken Ship, right, is there are other safety Yeah, he's

0:41:02.040 --> 0:41:04.879
<v Speaker 2>not the kicker. No, he's a guy that didn't play

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:07.320
<v Speaker 2>a ton last year. He's kind of like a rookie

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:11.400
<v Speaker 2>that they liked last year and had a promising first season.

0:41:11.640 --> 0:41:13.640
<v Speaker 2>But they're putting a lot more on his plate this

0:41:13.800 --> 0:41:16.239
<v Speaker 2>year than what he had last year. So it's gonna

0:41:16.239 --> 0:41:19.600
<v Speaker 2>be interesting to see how that squares away. Patty is

0:41:19.640 --> 0:41:21.319
<v Speaker 2>an agua on Patty. What's going on?

0:41:23.239 --> 0:41:23.880
<v Speaker 5>What's going on?

0:41:23.960 --> 0:41:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Jen?

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Hey, I don't know.

0:41:28.719 --> 0:41:31.160
<v Speaker 5>I said this on Rooks Show. Yesterday, Ivan, you had

0:41:31.200 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 5>already left. But I just have a good feeling about

0:41:33.160 --> 0:41:35.000
<v Speaker 5>this week. Not good enough that I think that they're

0:41:35.040 --> 0:41:37.319
<v Speaker 5>gonna win, but I think it's gonna be a lot

0:41:37.360 --> 0:41:40.839
<v Speaker 5>closer than people think. And I'm gonna give you two

0:41:40.840 --> 0:41:43.960
<v Speaker 5>guys that I think might have some surprising contributions. One

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:48.160
<v Speaker 5>of them is Mike the Sickie. I think he mean,

0:41:48.200 --> 0:41:50.560
<v Speaker 5>I think it was you said I'm you earlier this

0:41:50.640 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 5>week that you know, probably the biggest weakness of the

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.600
<v Speaker 5>Philadelphia defense in the middle of the field, their safeties.

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:59.719
<v Speaker 5>So I wouldn't be surprised, you know. Phil O'Brian's not

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:02.640
<v Speaker 5>a more hate to take pot shots, but he's no

0:42:02.680 --> 0:42:05.000
<v Speaker 5>Matt Patrician when it comes to offense, you know, so

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.520
<v Speaker 5>I think he'll he'll know how to exploit that. And

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:10.840
<v Speaker 5>the other guy who I think might have a sneaky

0:42:10.880 --> 0:42:16.480
<v Speaker 5>good game is Kayshaun Boody. I think, especially if DeVante

0:42:16.560 --> 0:42:19.640
<v Speaker 5>Parker is limited and he doesn't if he ends up

0:42:19.640 --> 0:42:23.200
<v Speaker 5>in active, I think one of those rookies you're gonna

0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:24.680
<v Speaker 5>see have a big game. And I don't think it's

0:42:24.680 --> 0:42:28.440
<v Speaker 5>gonna be top because I think, you know, I think

0:42:28.480 --> 0:42:31.480
<v Speaker 5>Booty's more you know, plays more of that X role,

0:42:31.560 --> 0:42:33.600
<v Speaker 5>not that he's in the mold of an X receiver,

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 5>but I think he's He's more in line to replace

0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 5>DeVante Parker than Pop is. And that's all I got, guys,

0:42:40.680 --> 0:42:41.440
<v Speaker 5>let's freaking go.

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:43.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for the call, Patty. I love that. I

0:42:43.800 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 2>love that ending there, so quickly, let's start with Kasiki

0:42:47.160 --> 0:42:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and the tight ends I want. I did want to

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.520
<v Speaker 2>talk about this. I definitely think the middle of the

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:55.080
<v Speaker 2>field can be had against his Eagles pass defense. Neither

0:42:55.120 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 2>of the Patriots tight ends or Travis Kelcey. We know

0:42:57.400 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 2>that Kelsey had a good super Bowl against them, and

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 2>even though no one's Travis Kelcey and no one's gonna

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.600
<v Speaker 2>do it as high of a level as Travis Kelcey,

0:43:08.280 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 2>Hunter Henry and Mi Kasiki aren't slatches. They're not talking

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 2>about bad tight ends, so they might, you know, if

0:43:14.120 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>Kelsey's out of ten, like, they might be executing it

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:18.520
<v Speaker 2>at a seven. But a seven is still pretty good,

0:43:19.000 --> 0:43:21.600
<v Speaker 2>so I think that that can be an advantage for them.

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>I like to get a SICKI shout because I think

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:26.320
<v Speaker 2>if you're going to run some of these zone beaters,

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 2>you do want somebody that is a little bit faster,

0:43:29.719 --> 0:43:31.760
<v Speaker 2>that can get into the voids a little bit quicker,

0:43:32.160 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 2>so they don't close, you know, they don't react to

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.919
<v Speaker 2>it and close it. So I think that Kasiki could

0:43:36.920 --> 0:43:38.960
<v Speaker 2>have a pretty big role in this game. Kelsey ran

0:43:39.200 --> 0:43:41.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, he ran the double move on the touchdown

0:43:41.120 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>in the Super Bowl. I don't know if the Patriots

0:43:43.520 --> 0:43:44.919
<v Speaker 2>tight ends are going to run a double move.

0:43:45.239 --> 0:43:46.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they're gonna The defensive line gives

0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:47.920
<v Speaker 1>them enough time to run double.

0:43:47.880 --> 0:43:50.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah' fair too. I don't know if anybody's going to

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:52.280
<v Speaker 2>run double moves as well as the Chiefs and Travis kelcey.

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:55.840
<v Speaker 2>But Kelsey ran a lot of like post corners and

0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.160
<v Speaker 2>different types of things like dad crossing routes and then

0:43:58.200 --> 0:44:01.360
<v Speaker 2>the post corner off of it to play with their zones.

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:03.640
<v Speaker 2>And I do think that Kasicki and Henry can do

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 2>that as well. Yeah, not at a Travis kelce level,

0:44:06.880 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 2>but at a lesser extent that's still productive.

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's still at a high level. Absolutely.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:13.600
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's talk a little bit about the offensive line.

0:44:14.120 --> 0:44:16.479
<v Speaker 2>I buried the offensive line forty minutes into the show.

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:17.600
<v Speaker 1>I did a whole thing on them.

0:44:17.600 --> 0:44:18.560
<v Speaker 2>What are you talking about Well.

0:44:18.440 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I didn't.

0:44:19.080 --> 0:44:20.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to. Like, I feel like we've ragged

0:44:20.800 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 2>on the offensive line enough, all right, So here's my

0:44:23.560 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 2>thing with the offensive line. I expect the offensive line

0:44:29.280 --> 0:44:32.640
<v Speaker 2>to be about as fully healthy as you can imagine

0:44:32.680 --> 0:44:34.920
<v Speaker 2>at this point. I think that they are going to

0:44:35.280 --> 0:44:37.440
<v Speaker 2>walk on the field on the first offensive play of

0:44:37.480 --> 0:44:41.480
<v Speaker 2>the game with from left to right, Trent Brown, Cole Strange,

0:44:41.560 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 2>David Andrews, Mike on Wentu, and Calvin Anderson.

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>He makes if it's not Calvin Anderson, it's a guy

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.399
<v Speaker 1>who's played at most thirty three NFL snaps unless they're

0:44:52.400 --> 0:44:54.480
<v Speaker 1>going to elevate James Ferris right down.

0:44:54.560 --> 0:44:56.560
<v Speaker 2>So I think it will be Calvin Anderson as well.

0:44:57.239 --> 0:45:00.920
<v Speaker 2>Here's the catch. The obviously Calvin Anderson again, Son Reddick

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:03.680
<v Speaker 2>or Josh wat is a mismatch. Yeah, itself like that.

0:45:03.840 --> 0:45:07.200
<v Speaker 2>That's that's one catch to this. The other catch is

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:08.880
<v Speaker 2>that I don't think all those guys are gonna go

0:45:08.960 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 2>wide or wire on Sunday. And it's supposed to be hot.

0:45:12.160 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 2>It's supposed to be humid on Sunday as well.

0:45:14.600 --> 0:45:16.000
<v Speaker 1>I think it's supposed to rain, isn't it.

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:19.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, maybe in the morning I think if that's I'm

0:45:19.280 --> 0:45:22.320
<v Speaker 2>worried about, like the rain happening and then the humidity hitting.

0:45:22.120 --> 0:45:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Right like after the rain, I'm seeing rain like all

0:45:24.120 --> 0:45:27.920
<v Speaker 1>day okay, but still very humid. So it's gonna be

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.839
<v Speaker 1>like it's gonna be like they're opening Miami again.

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:31.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's gonna be hot and it's gonna be humid.

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.839
<v Speaker 2>And my guess is that they're not gonna have all

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:36.280
<v Speaker 2>five guys go wire to wire.

0:45:36.520 --> 0:45:38.440
<v Speaker 1>And on top of that, they usually don't in Week one.

0:45:38.520 --> 0:45:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's the whole extension of the preseason game. They keep guys,

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>they like to rotate and get different looks early on.

0:45:44.320 --> 0:45:46.440
<v Speaker 2>So last year they played seven linemen in Week one

0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:51.280
<v Speaker 2>in Miami. I believe Brown. I think it was Brown

0:45:51.320 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Andrews on when who played wired to wire. So those

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.480
<v Speaker 2>three guys played the whole game strange in the right tackle,

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.239
<v Speaker 2>who is Isaiah Win at the time, Isaiah Win? I

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 2>gave way a little bit to to Ynika just and

0:46:03.960 --> 0:46:05.440
<v Speaker 2>then I think strange.

0:46:05.520 --> 0:46:06.840
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it was Farens.

0:46:06.880 --> 0:46:09.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got in for strange. So I think that

0:46:09.160 --> 0:46:09.720
<v Speaker 2>you're gonna.

0:46:09.520 --> 0:46:12.840
<v Speaker 1>See did Isaiah Win kick inside? No? I think it

0:46:12.880 --> 0:46:14.439
<v Speaker 1>was okay, it would have been fair because they didn't

0:46:14.440 --> 0:46:17.880
<v Speaker 1>play any They only played for interior alignment last year

0:46:17.960 --> 0:46:20.880
<v Speaker 1>was on when who Andrew's strange inference that was that

0:46:20.960 --> 0:46:22.120
<v Speaker 1>no other interior linement plays.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:26.479
<v Speaker 2>So they're gonna play a little bit. I think they're

0:46:26.480 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 2>gonna play seven or eight guys, I think in this game,

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:31.879
<v Speaker 2>and it might be different. And what I mean by

0:46:31.920 --> 0:46:35.720
<v Speaker 2>that is I think Mafi is gonna be the backup guard.

0:46:36.040 --> 0:46:38.279
<v Speaker 2>He might he might swing both ways though no pun

0:46:38.320 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 2>intended pun, you know what I mean? Yeah, he might

0:46:43.840 --> 0:46:48.080
<v Speaker 2>play left and right. So Cole Strange needs a blow,

0:46:48.360 --> 0:46:50.560
<v Speaker 2>he goes into left on when who needs a blow?

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.720
<v Speaker 2>He goes in that when who goes to right tackle?

0:46:53.880 --> 0:46:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't think so, not yet, not yet. I think

0:46:56.680 --> 0:46:59.920
<v Speaker 2>that that's a break class situation with who write tack.

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 1>Think against this Eagles front, you could see that it's possible.

0:47:03.320 --> 0:47:06.279
<v Speaker 2>But I how I get to eight is I think

0:47:06.320 --> 0:47:09.040
<v Speaker 2>Mafi's gonna play a little bit at guard for stringing

0:47:09.120 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 2>on one. I think someone else is gonna play right tackle.

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:15.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know who yet, but I think it's I'm

0:47:15.160 --> 0:47:18.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna Darian Low maybe gets in there at right tackle.

0:47:19.239 --> 0:47:22.919
<v Speaker 2>I think Tyrone Wheatley gets in as the sixth offensive line,

0:47:23.120 --> 0:47:24.719
<v Speaker 2>So I think that that's how you get to eight.

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:28.920
<v Speaker 2>But don't expect I I Alex, you're one hundred percent

0:47:29.000 --> 0:47:31.360
<v Speaker 2>right that they usually don't go the distance week one anyways,

0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:34.520
<v Speaker 2>especially with a banged up group like this that hasn't

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>practiced a whole lot this summer, I would expect a

0:47:37.960 --> 0:47:40.960
<v Speaker 2>pretty significant rotation on the offensive line. I think you're

0:47:40.960 --> 0:47:44.200
<v Speaker 2>gonna see a lot of bodies up there. Yeah, I'd

0:47:44.239 --> 0:47:47.840
<v Speaker 2>agree with that, But do you feel how do you like?

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:50.160
<v Speaker 2>I guess where is your your your panic meter with

0:47:50.239 --> 0:47:56.359
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line at this point? Because we both give me.

0:47:56.320 --> 0:47:58.600
<v Speaker 1>Both I mean this I I gave I said that

0:47:58.640 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 1>whole thing before, right about five players verse four players,

0:48:01.200 --> 0:48:04.400
<v Speaker 1>and I can cole Strange basically hold up one on

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:06.520
<v Speaker 1>one against some of those guys. I don't feel great

0:48:06.560 --> 0:48:09.439
<v Speaker 1>about that. I think Trent Brown, David Andrews, mikeel Winner,

0:48:09.440 --> 0:48:10.879
<v Speaker 1>you know what you're gonna get from those three guys,

0:48:11.080 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and those three guys should be pretty good. Everybody else,

0:48:14.080 --> 0:48:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the other two spots, the backups that are going to

0:48:15.920 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>rotate in cold Strange, you kind of have an idea.

0:48:20.880 --> 0:48:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Everybody else here is a total unknown to me, because

0:48:23.800 --> 0:48:26.640
<v Speaker 1>we literally didn't see any of them. Calvin the Anderson

0:48:26.719 --> 0:48:30.040
<v Speaker 1>was not even cold strange, he didn't He took part

0:48:30.120 --> 0:48:32.879
<v Speaker 1>in thirty minutes of a padded practice, didn't get into

0:48:32.880 --> 0:48:35.600
<v Speaker 1>team drills and a padded practice, So we really don't

0:48:35.600 --> 0:48:38.760
<v Speaker 1>know what his two year two jump looks like. Calvin

0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>Anderson was on NFI till practice is closed to the media,

0:48:41.560 --> 0:48:44.640
<v Speaker 1>so we have no idea what he looks like. Vederian

0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:48.080
<v Speaker 1>Lowe and Tyrone Wheatley just got here. You have rookies.

0:48:48.640 --> 0:48:51.040
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of unknowns. Yeah, that's you have two

0:48:51.160 --> 0:48:53.520
<v Speaker 1>unknowns in the starting lineup and then pretty much unless

0:48:53.520 --> 0:48:55.440
<v Speaker 1>they elevate Farens, which I don't think they're gonna do,

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.960
<v Speaker 1>not this week. All guys that really even played.

0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:04.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I I feel better about the offensive line than

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:05.359
<v Speaker 2>I did ten days ago.

0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:07.880
<v Speaker 1>And I think, all right, sorry, let me let me so.

0:49:07.920 --> 0:49:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You said for the game in the season, So that

0:49:09.680 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 1>was for the game for the season. So last year.

0:49:15.000 --> 0:49:16.719
<v Speaker 1>I'll do PFF this time, not PFR, because they have

0:49:16.760 --> 0:49:18.200
<v Speaker 1>the PFF number in my head. I go back and

0:49:18.239 --> 0:49:21.560
<v Speaker 1>forth it whichever one better suits my argument. Right, that's

0:49:21.600 --> 0:49:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the sports this. He's honest about it. Marine they were

0:49:24.360 --> 0:49:26.880
<v Speaker 1>eleventh in the league last year in pressure rate allowed

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.319
<v Speaker 1>according to PFF, which you said, it's pretty good. It's

0:49:30.320 --> 0:49:34.600
<v Speaker 1>all right, well, but like there's an offensive line shortage

0:49:34.640 --> 0:49:36.560
<v Speaker 1>in the league. We've talked about this, so I don't know.

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.080
<v Speaker 2>This is why I don't like pressure rate, not to

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:41.200
<v Speaker 2>like go into the whole thing about it. But there's

0:49:41.239 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>screens there.

0:49:42.320 --> 0:49:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But here's my point, Like, they weren't the worst

0:49:45.080 --> 0:49:46.160
<v Speaker 1>offensive line in the league.

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:47.120
<v Speaker 2>No, they weren't.

0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:49.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't see whether you think they were the eleventh

0:49:49.960 --> 0:49:52.399
<v Speaker 1>best if I think that's high. But yeah, I would

0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:53.520
<v Speaker 1>say they were in the top twenty.

0:49:53.800 --> 0:49:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe twenty.

0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:58.360
<v Speaker 1>Maybe twenty. But like they weren't atrocious compared.

0:49:58.000 --> 0:49:58.799
<v Speaker 2>To They weren't.

0:49:58.840 --> 0:50:03.040
<v Speaker 1>They weren't a complete But here's my point, they may

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:07.040
<v Speaker 1>not be better. I don't see how they get penny injury.

0:50:07.400 --> 0:50:10.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't see how they get worse because four of

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.640
<v Speaker 1>your five starters are the same. In that fifth spot

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:17.840
<v Speaker 1>right tackles, it's the same thing. It's just different names.

0:50:17.840 --> 0:50:21.080
<v Speaker 1>You're still doing a rotation at right tackle. Last year

0:50:21.120 --> 0:50:25.799
<v Speaker 1>it was Isaiah Winn, Yadnika, just Connor McDermott. Who am

0:50:25.840 --> 0:50:29.399
<v Speaker 1>I missing? Yodney yeah, all four of those guys. Well,

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Connor McDermott still here, but he's on IR. You're just

0:50:31.719 --> 0:50:36.440
<v Speaker 1>replacing those guys with Calvin Anderson, Vederian Lowe, Tyrone, Wheatley

0:50:36.840 --> 0:50:40.319
<v Speaker 1>and City. So yeah, that's it's the same. So it's

0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:42.759
<v Speaker 1>the same thing. So I don't see how they get

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:44.600
<v Speaker 1>much worse. I don't think they're gonna be better, but

0:50:44.640 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 1>I also don't think they're gonna be worse. I think

0:50:46.000 --> 0:50:48.480
<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be the same thing. And when they were

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.360
<v Speaker 1>healthy last year, they made it work. It wasn't great,

0:50:51.400 --> 0:50:53.760
<v Speaker 1>but they made it work. If they can stay healthy,

0:50:53.960 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 1>I think long term they have the ability to make

0:50:55.800 --> 0:50:57.880
<v Speaker 1>it work. But there are some things they're gonna need

0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.840
<v Speaker 1>to do to sort out, to build chemistry before they

0:50:59.880 --> 0:51:01.719
<v Speaker 1>get up to that point, and having to face this

0:51:01.760 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>defensive line in week one it doesn't exactly make that easy.

0:51:05.280 --> 0:51:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I don't think that they're worse. I agree

0:51:08.080 --> 0:51:09.960
<v Speaker 2>with you. I think Cole Strange in year two will

0:51:10.000 --> 0:51:12.200
<v Speaker 2>be better. I think Mike on One and David Andrews

0:51:12.200 --> 0:51:15.520
<v Speaker 2>are still good. And Trent's Trent. Like, Trent's not an

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.560
<v Speaker 2>elite left tackle. I don't even know if he's a

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Pro Bowl left tackle at this point. Maybe he was

0:51:21.360 --> 0:51:23.960
<v Speaker 2>in twenty eighteen. I think that was really the only

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>time he's touched that. But he's typically a serviceable left tackle.

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.879
<v Speaker 2>I this is not the show for it, and we'll

0:51:31.880 --> 0:51:34.080
<v Speaker 2>have plenty of time to talk about this next offseason.

0:51:34.600 --> 0:51:37.040
<v Speaker 2>They are looking for a left tackle next offseason. I

0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>wholeheartedly believe that. I know we're talking last year. I

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:42.880
<v Speaker 2>I know we have and I know we're talking a

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:46.440
<v Speaker 2>lot about right tackle. Right tackle is a lower floor

0:51:46.480 --> 0:51:50.880
<v Speaker 2>position for them right now, but long term, Thanks for

0:51:50.960 --> 0:51:53.560
<v Speaker 2>your service, Trent Brown, but it's time to move on

0:51:53.680 --> 0:51:54.840
<v Speaker 2>and find something more stable.

0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>Mac Jones establishes himself as the guy, Yeah, they're I

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:03.400
<v Speaker 1>think it. Outside of Kyle Duggar, I think they're pretty

0:52:03.400 --> 0:52:05.680
<v Speaker 1>good in terms of penning for agents. Yeah, you know

0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:08.680
<v Speaker 1>they can afford to lose Josh Hues, it wouldn't be great,

0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:10.359
<v Speaker 1>But same with Mike Gounwin, who just the way they've

0:52:10.440 --> 0:52:12.720
<v Speaker 1>drafted the last couple of years. If mac Jones establishes

0:52:12.800 --> 0:52:14.360
<v Speaker 1>himself as the guy, you got to get him a

0:52:14.360 --> 0:52:17.080
<v Speaker 1>blind side protector and a number one target. Yeah that's

0:52:17.120 --> 0:52:17.600
<v Speaker 1>one and two.

0:52:18.000 --> 0:52:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Keep saying that, right, and you know you can you

0:52:20.920 --> 0:52:25.759
<v Speaker 2>can go clip me saying that probably in twenty twenty one. Yeah, right, Regardless,

0:52:26.760 --> 0:52:29.520
<v Speaker 2>I like their long term outlook along in the offensive line.

0:52:30.120 --> 0:52:32.520
<v Speaker 2>And I know that sounds a little bit contradictory some

0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:34.200
<v Speaker 2>of the things I've said about the group in the past,

0:52:34.520 --> 0:52:38.120
<v Speaker 2>but my whole thing was twofold one. I wanted to

0:52:38.160 --> 0:52:41.560
<v Speaker 2>see the projected starting five actually healthy and out there

0:52:41.600 --> 0:52:44.480
<v Speaker 2>and playing together before I panicked, right, like, we haven't

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:47.600
<v Speaker 2>seen That's fair, and forget about right tackle for a second.

0:52:47.600 --> 0:52:50.760
<v Speaker 2>But we haven't seen Brown, Strange andrews On. We haven't

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:51.440
<v Speaker 2>seen that group.

0:52:51.520 --> 0:52:55.040
<v Speaker 1>We haven't seen I mean, they didn't have both starting

0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.160
<v Speaker 1>guards for a I don't think there was one open

0:52:57.200 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>padded practice where they'd both starting guards.

0:52:58.760 --> 0:53:00.279
<v Speaker 2>Now I know there wasn't, no, because my I want

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:02.040
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was on pup the whole time.

0:53:02.120 --> 0:53:05.360
<v Speaker 1>No, I'm saying, like, either, what like every padded practice

0:53:05.360 --> 0:53:08.200
<v Speaker 1>we saw this summer they had backups at both guard spots.

0:53:08.760 --> 0:53:11.560
<v Speaker 1>You're saying outside of that that ten minutes before got

0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.759
<v Speaker 1>hurt in the first one, which was basically stretched like

0:53:13.880 --> 0:53:16.399
<v Speaker 1>the first competitive Revy til he got hurt, we saw

0:53:16.440 --> 0:53:19.200
<v Speaker 1>him stretch. Yeah, doesn't tell you a lot about your twol.

0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 2>So that's why I've I've that's my my holding out

0:53:22.840 --> 0:53:24.919
<v Speaker 2>hope about the group, right is that Okay, we really

0:53:24.960 --> 0:53:26.800
<v Speaker 2>haven't seen the group, like we're panicking.

0:53:26.840 --> 0:53:29.400
<v Speaker 1>You know what this is. It's the same logic I

0:53:29.480 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 1>used for my two kicker. Take until you have a

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.880
<v Speaker 1>reason to disbelieve it, you can't. You can't disbelieve it.

0:53:34.920 --> 0:53:38.400
<v Speaker 2>Fine, but we were panicking in the preseason, myself included

0:53:39.080 --> 0:53:43.239
<v Speaker 2>about city. So and you know these guys that, right,

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.200
<v Speaker 2>aren't it are a really big time factor.

0:53:45.320 --> 0:53:48.160
<v Speaker 1>But I think but I maybe I was alone in this.

0:53:48.680 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>My panic in that was we're not that far away

0:53:51.719 --> 0:53:52.760
<v Speaker 1>from these guys playing.

0:53:52.880 --> 0:53:54.680
<v Speaker 2>That's fair, that's fair. We don't have to worry about that,

0:53:54.719 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 2>hopefully this week, but we're not that far away long term.

0:53:57.200 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 2>The other reason why I'm not as concerned about their

0:53:59.840 --> 0:54:05.000
<v Speaker 2>law term outlook is I think that Bill O'Brien and

0:54:05.040 --> 0:54:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I the jury for me is still out. On Adrian Clem.

0:54:10.160 --> 0:54:12.719
<v Speaker 2>I feel the same way that I feel in some

0:54:12.760 --> 0:54:15.680
<v Speaker 2>respects about the quarterback as I do about Adrian Klem.

0:54:15.960 --> 0:54:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I think Mac Jones can play, Okay, I think Adrian

0:54:19.880 --> 0:54:23.279
<v Speaker 2>Clem can coach the offensive line, but do. I can

0:54:23.320 --> 0:54:26.640
<v Speaker 2>I sit here and know for definitively for a fact

0:54:27.040 --> 0:54:29.480
<v Speaker 2>that Adrian Klem is a good offensive line coach and

0:54:29.560 --> 0:54:32.319
<v Speaker 2>Mac Jones is a franchise quarterback. No, I can't. I

0:54:32.360 --> 0:54:35.479
<v Speaker 2>can't say that. Right is very sadly, But I think

0:54:35.600 --> 0:54:37.759
<v Speaker 2>Adrian Clem will have that group ready to go and

0:54:37.800 --> 0:54:41.360
<v Speaker 2>we'll be okay offensive line. And I this is a

0:54:41.440 --> 0:54:44.319
<v Speaker 2>scarnekism that I stole from him. So this is not

0:54:44.440 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>like some words of wisdom from me. Yeah, Scarnekie always

0:54:47.600 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 2>talks about how that's the one group on the field

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:54.760
<v Speaker 2>where it's all about all five guys being on a string.

0:54:55.680 --> 0:54:59.000
<v Speaker 2>You can punch above your weight if you have all

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.960
<v Speaker 2>five guys on a string on the offensive page. Yeah,

0:55:02.000 --> 0:55:06.600
<v Speaker 2>if you're picking up blitzes together, and you're sliding together,

0:55:06.880 --> 0:55:11.399
<v Speaker 2>and you're conboying or double teaming blocks together, you can

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.000
<v Speaker 2>do it with lesser talent.

0:55:13.160 --> 0:55:15.240
<v Speaker 1>This is these seeing it through the same eyes concept.

0:55:15.280 --> 0:55:17.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, you can do it with lesser talent. You can.

0:55:17.880 --> 0:55:22.319
<v Speaker 2>So if right tackles an issue, but Calvin Anderson and

0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Mike on Winnu and David Andrews on the right side

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:28.399
<v Speaker 2>of things, they got it buttoned up, then it will

0:55:28.400 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 2>be a lot cleaner than just Calvin Anderson being an

0:55:31.000 --> 0:55:33.920
<v Speaker 2>anchor to the whole group. So that's the difference between

0:55:33.920 --> 0:55:36.279
<v Speaker 2>this year and last year to me is they have

0:55:37.400 --> 0:55:40.920
<v Speaker 2>pre snap ability now to change protections and get the

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.200
<v Speaker 2>protections in the right order, and that's going to be

0:55:43.239 --> 0:55:45.480
<v Speaker 2>mostly ninety percent of that's going to be on the

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.480
<v Speaker 2>quarterback and the other ten percent will be on Andrews.

0:55:49.080 --> 0:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>And they have a lot better fundamental understanding of just

0:55:52.920 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 2>the fundamentals, the basic principles of the offense, and that

0:55:56.840 --> 0:55:59.520
<v Speaker 2>I think will hopefully make this group better than the

0:55:59.520 --> 0:56:00.919
<v Speaker 2>sum of its parts, right like.

0:56:00.840 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 1>It, Well, it doesn't feel like that's what their plan was. Yeah,

0:56:04.360 --> 0:56:06.440
<v Speaker 1>they're investing. We were waiting for them to invest in

0:56:06.480 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 1>a tackle and instaid. They invested in the coach to

0:56:08.440 --> 0:56:09.600
<v Speaker 1>elevate the players they had.

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's such a big difference when it comes to

0:56:13.040 --> 0:56:16.319
<v Speaker 2>protection calls. Most of the Patriots' protection calls that aren't

0:56:16.360 --> 0:56:19.439
<v Speaker 2>play action or seventies protections, they call them and they

0:56:19.440 --> 0:56:22.120
<v Speaker 2>have different you know, they'll call different numbers in the

0:56:22.120 --> 0:56:25.239
<v Speaker 2>seventies and that's a different type of protection and that

0:56:25.360 --> 0:56:28.960
<v Speaker 2>ability to come to the line of scrimmage. David Andrews

0:56:29.000 --> 0:56:30.839
<v Speaker 2>will call out the front right, He'll say four down,

0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:34.040
<v Speaker 2>three down, something like that, and then to be able

0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:36.680
<v Speaker 2>to adapt pre snap to what exactly the defense is

0:56:36.680 --> 0:56:40.479
<v Speaker 2>showing you to get it blocked properly. They weren't doing

0:56:40.520 --> 0:56:42.680
<v Speaker 2>stuff like that last year. They were coming to the

0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.680
<v Speaker 2>line of scrimmage and snapping the ball and whatever happened

0:56:45.719 --> 0:56:49.759
<v Speaker 2>happened right like that was the approach. Unfortunately last year.

0:56:50.040 --> 0:56:52.080
<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be a little bit different, and I

0:56:52.160 --> 0:56:54.520
<v Speaker 2>think that's gonna help them a lot. So I'm not

0:56:54.640 --> 0:56:57.600
<v Speaker 2>concerned about like the long term outlook. With that being said,

0:56:58.200 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 2>this game on Sunday does have the potent. The look

0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.440
<v Speaker 2>kind of rough, yes, and we have to grow with

0:57:03.520 --> 0:57:06.160
<v Speaker 2>the growing paints. You know, it's gonna be it could

0:57:06.200 --> 0:57:08.319
<v Speaker 2>be tough. This is the best pass rush in the

0:57:08.400 --> 0:57:09.680
<v Speaker 2>NFL by a country mile.

0:57:09.840 --> 0:57:12.120
<v Speaker 1>This is so I looked this up earlier. Not only

0:57:12.160 --> 0:57:14.440
<v Speaker 1>did the best pass rush in the NFL, it's seventy

0:57:14.440 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>sacks last year, It's tied for third most by a

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:18.400
<v Speaker 1>team in NFL history. Yeah, do you know how many

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.160
<v Speaker 1>times a team has had more than sixty sacks in

0:57:21.200 --> 0:57:25.760
<v Speaker 1>a season since two thousand No? Three? The two thousand Saints, Yeah,

0:57:25.840 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>which is kind of random.

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's very rare.

0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 1>The two thousand and six Chargers, who it's like the

0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Chaine Merriman those teams were filthy, and then the Eagles

0:57:32.680 --> 0:57:34.880
<v Speaker 1>last year. That's so there's a bunch of teams in

0:57:34.920 --> 0:57:37.000
<v Speaker 1>there in like the in the eighties and nineties that

0:57:37.080 --> 0:57:40.080
<v Speaker 1>had like sixty something sacks, but since two thousand only

0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.200
<v Speaker 1>two teams and neither of those teams reached the seventies.

0:57:42.200 --> 0:57:45.320
<v Speaker 1>It's sixty and sixty six for the Saints and Chargers. Yeah,

0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:47.800
<v Speaker 1>Eagles got to seventy. This isn't just the best pass

0:57:47.880 --> 0:57:50.840
<v Speaker 1>rush in the league. This is the best pass rush

0:57:51.120 --> 0:57:54.440
<v Speaker 1>the NFL is seen in probably two decades. Yeah, definitely

0:57:54.480 --> 0:57:57.480
<v Speaker 1>in built. Let's put this way, this is the best

0:57:57.520 --> 0:58:00.600
<v Speaker 1>pass rush Bill Belichick has ever faced. It had uh

0:58:00.840 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 1>as the head coach of the Patriots of the I.

0:58:02.960 --> 0:58:04.160
<v Speaker 2>Almost very dramatic.

0:58:04.280 --> 0:58:05.880
<v Speaker 1>Well, no, because I remember he was to coaching the

0:58:05.880 --> 0:58:07.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you ever faced the Giants when

0:58:07.360 --> 0:58:09.160
<v Speaker 1>he was the head coach of the Browns, but if

0:58:09.160 --> 0:58:09.560
<v Speaker 1>you faced the.

0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:12.560
<v Speaker 2>Tale, that's so don't put anybody in Lawrence.

0:58:12.360 --> 0:58:14.560
<v Speaker 1>That's what. But that's why I caught myself this is

0:58:14.600 --> 0:58:17.760
<v Speaker 1>the best pass rush, and it's that Bill Belichick has

0:58:17.760 --> 0:58:19.520
<v Speaker 1>ever faced as the head coach of the Patriots.

0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:22.200
<v Speaker 2>I like that. I like that is a very good rush.

0:58:22.480 --> 0:58:24.840
<v Speaker 2>As much as I picked on them for being vanilla

0:58:25.000 --> 0:58:26.880
<v Speaker 2>in their pass rush, they can be because that's the

0:58:26.920 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 2>thing right now they have.

0:58:28.160 --> 0:58:29.960
<v Speaker 1>The Patriot I mean, they did it more on They

0:58:30.000 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>did it the times on defense, the twenty fourteen defenses

0:58:32.400 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 1>like this, but they did this on offense. You know

0:58:34.600 --> 0:58:37.680
<v Speaker 1>when you had Brady Moss, Welk or those teams were

0:58:37.680 --> 0:58:41.280
<v Speaker 1>even like the Edelman Gronk teams. Yeah, you pretty much

0:58:41.360 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>knew what they were gonna do. It wasn't really a secret.

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:47.360
<v Speaker 1>Uh the drive against the Chiefs, everybody knew what those

0:58:47.400 --> 0:58:50.480
<v Speaker 1>third down play calls were. Everybody. Yeah, they're they're either

0:58:50.520 --> 0:58:52.000
<v Speaker 1>going up to see them to Gronk or they're they're

0:58:52.080 --> 0:58:54.640
<v Speaker 1>hitting Edelman on the end. Yeah, we knew it. They

0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.280
<v Speaker 1>knew it, The Chiefs knew it, the fans knew it.

0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:57.680
<v Speaker 1>And what did they do They went up the field

0:58:57.760 --> 0:58:59.720
<v Speaker 1>doing it. Why because they were just better.

0:59:00.000 --> 0:59:02.000
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we're gonna execute, putting in it by the end.

0:59:02.000 --> 0:59:04.720
<v Speaker 1>No no, no, But but just as as a cop, yeah,

0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, I kind of got off throws. But that's

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:09.160
<v Speaker 1>sort of what the Eagles defense is. We know they're

0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>gonna put four guys hands in the dirt. Yeah, arebody

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:13.520
<v Speaker 1>else gonna drop back in the coverage're gonna but four

0:59:13.520 --> 0:59:15.720
<v Speaker 1>guys hands in the dirt, and they're not gonna run

0:59:15.720 --> 0:59:17.880
<v Speaker 1>around and twist, and they're gonna come right at you.

0:59:17.960 --> 0:59:20.360
<v Speaker 1>We know it, they know it. But can you be

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:22.360
<v Speaker 1>better than them? Can you stop them from doing it?

0:59:22.400 --> 0:59:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Because most people can't.

0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.240
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So I got some other personnel questions for you,

0:59:26.240 --> 0:59:28.680
<v Speaker 2>because we've we've we've talked to scheme through. I like

0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:31.400
<v Speaker 2>that part of our of what we've done here. We

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:34.000
<v Speaker 2>we we've covered our bases there. Let's talk about some

0:59:34.040 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of the guys that are gonna play in some of

0:59:35.400 --> 0:59:38.080
<v Speaker 2>the combinations we might see elsewhere besides the offensive line.

0:59:38.680 --> 0:59:41.800
<v Speaker 2>Start in the backfield. This is interesting to all the

0:59:41.840 --> 0:59:44.320
<v Speaker 2>fantasy people out there, So you canot.

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:47.360
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna say it's interesting, interesting to you, please.

0:59:47.320 --> 0:59:50.080
<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna we can talk about this, uh, you know,

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:54.200
<v Speaker 2>for all the fantasy people out there. Ormandra, steven Zeke Elliott,

0:59:54.760 --> 0:59:57.120
<v Speaker 2>do you, first of all, do you believe Ormandre that

0:59:57.160 --> 0:59:59.440
<v Speaker 2>he actually has no idea how they're gonna rotate them

0:59:59.440 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 2>on Sunday.

1:00:00.200 --> 1:00:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Mmmm, live omission.

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, fair enough. I I think that's a half truth.

1:00:07.560 --> 1:00:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Can we see that? That's God, that's the term I

1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:09.800
<v Speaker 2>was looking for.

1:00:09.880 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you?

1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:10.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, half truth.

1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:13.920
<v Speaker 1>Anyways, he doesn't he doesn't know who's getting the first snap,

1:00:13.960 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>but he knows who's going out for what package and whatever.

1:00:17.360 --> 1:00:19.880
<v Speaker 2>So how do you see them using Remondre and Zeke?

1:00:20.160 --> 1:00:22.920
<v Speaker 1>I would so some of this is like how far

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 1>along a Zeke in the playbook? Yeah, if let's just

1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.040
<v Speaker 1>assume for sex Zeke's fully caught up and he's good

1:00:27.040 --> 1:00:29.919
<v Speaker 1>to go in the full playbooks available. I would love

1:00:30.000 --> 1:00:33.760
<v Speaker 1>to see them go back to what they did before

1:00:33.760 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 1>time on Gmer got hurt last year and split it

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:38.240
<v Speaker 1>by drive instead of by situations.

1:00:38.320 --> 1:00:41.600
<v Speaker 2>So you don't care if who's on the path field

1:00:41.720 --> 1:00:43.800
<v Speaker 2>on a passing play, run play. You just want them

1:00:43.800 --> 1:00:44.600
<v Speaker 2>to go drive by drive.

1:00:44.760 --> 1:00:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'd like that better. I think there's less tells.

1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:51.600
<v Speaker 1>I think it the backs they have. It makes the

1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:54.480
<v Speaker 1>most of their skill sets. You have two well rounded backs,

1:00:54.520 --> 1:00:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like I want Ramondre on the field in both situations.

1:00:58.200 --> 1:01:00.320
<v Speaker 1>I want Zeke on the field and both situations. That's it.

1:01:00.560 --> 1:01:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Now.

1:01:00.680 --> 1:01:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I'm not saying I go one for one. I'm probably

1:01:02.920 --> 1:01:07.800
<v Speaker 1>going like for every two Remandre drives Zeke or something

1:01:07.880 --> 1:01:10.720
<v Speaker 1>like that. The other wrinkle in this and I don't

1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:11.960
<v Speaker 1>know if you want to get in this later, but

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of need to bring it up now for

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<v Speaker 1>this take. If we're gonna do who are we thinking

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<v Speaker 1>for practice squad elevations? Zappi is gonna be one. I

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<v Speaker 1>can't imagine Mac Crowl's ready. Okay, so Zapi's one. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking at Time Montgomery, yep.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm surprised Time Montgomery's not on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 2>men round.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a little bit too. And some of what we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about earlier in terms of all right, this quick

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<v Speaker 1>pass stuff, the screens, where can you beat the Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>in coverage? Their linebackers are not great coverage linebackers you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have if you're gonna have an ability to throw

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<v Speaker 1>the ball to the running back in this game. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, the other two guys can do it. Ramondres

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<v Speaker 1>he can do it that like two minute drill where

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<v Speaker 1>you really gotta get going. Time Montgomery is still the

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<v Speaker 1>best receiving back on the roster agree when he's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>So I to me, it's like two here's how I

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<v Speaker 1>would do it by drive two Remandree drives for every

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<v Speaker 1>Zeke drive. Okay, but when you get into the two

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<v Speaker 1>minute give me time Montgomery okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So I I'm similar, I maybe would just break it.

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<v Speaker 2>I personally, I still feel like Zeke is here to

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<v Speaker 2>be Damien Harris, like what they envision the split between

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<v Speaker 2>her Madre and Damien Harris being before Damien Harris got banged.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't think that they're gonna take advantage of what

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't pass pro. You don't think that's especially we

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about all that on the offensive line. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't Dan Harris didn't do any of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I do to respect, but maybe not in the same

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<v Speaker 2>way that other people do. Where I think he's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be playing on third down. I think what they're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do with Zeke and pass pro is we can run

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<v Speaker 2>play action and then Zeken blitz scan after we run

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<v Speaker 2>the fake and pick guys up late, okay, and try

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<v Speaker 2>to keep Mac clean that way. And I also think

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<v Speaker 2>that if they get certain personnel on the field, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be a situation where they're in run personnel, but

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<v Speaker 2>they actually throw out a run personnel and then Zeke

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<v Speaker 2>becomes either a block or a receiver. To that respect,

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<v Speaker 2>I still feel like third down is going to come

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<v Speaker 2>down to Remandre or Thy Montgomery. I just feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Remandre is too in tune with the quarterback to take

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<v Speaker 2>him off the field on third down.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, we don't know. We don't know where Zeke's at

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<v Speaker 1>with Mac.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't, but I know that him and Ramandre have

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<v Speaker 2>a great report. Okay, that's fair, and that's where I

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<v Speaker 2>worry about anybody but Remandre being on third down because

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<v Speaker 2>at the end of the day, if it's third and three,

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<v Speaker 2>it's third and four and he needs that. James White, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I still think that he feels the most comfortable with

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<v Speaker 2>it being Remandre. That might not necessarily mean that I

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<v Speaker 2>think Montgomery is a quicker, better route runner than Remandre is,

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<v Speaker 2>but in terms of chemistry and continuity, I think Mac

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<v Speaker 2>likes throwing the ball to Ramandre Stevens.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I don't want to see Remonder playing seventy

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<v Speaker 1>percent of the Stamps again.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I will, really. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 2>way that they're going to cut into his workload is

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<v Speaker 2>going to be on first and second down. I think

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<v Speaker 2>with Zeke and him will trade off first and second

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<v Speaker 2>down carries and then Remandre will play on third. Now

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<v Speaker 2>I also agree that I feel like Time Montgomery will

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<v Speaker 2>be elevated from the practice squad and play a role

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<v Speaker 2>in this game. The one other thing that I thought of,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, just from a game plan standpoint, everybody always

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<v Speaker 2>throws tempo out there like it's this cure all, like

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<v Speaker 2>let's run, hurry up, and it's gonna fix all of

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<v Speaker 2>our problems and every I actually do think that there

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<v Speaker 2>is some advantage of it in this game simply because

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<v Speaker 2>the Eagles, Uh, they run what they run out of

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<v Speaker 2>certain personnel packages. So if you have certain groupings on

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<v Speaker 2>the field for them defensively, you're kind of gonna know

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<v Speaker 2>what defensive structure they're going to be in.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you get a look that you know you

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<v Speaker 1>can be, you can force them essentially to.

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<v Speaker 2>Stay in that look. So that's where I think Time

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<v Speaker 2>Montgomery's role could play into this game is if they

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<v Speaker 2>do want to hit a drive where they hit the

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<v Speaker 2>NASCAR package as Josh McDaniels used to call it, and

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<v Speaker 2>and run some hurry up time Montgomery. He can play

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<v Speaker 2>flexed out and he can play out of the backfield. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and it gives them a kind of a Swiss army knife,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I love you What position is he is? He

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<v Speaker 2>running back? Is your receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if this is the game to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>just because of the Eagles front and what it is.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm not opposed to some two running back

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<v Speaker 1>sets this year, as long as I don't think you

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<v Speaker 1>need remondering Sea that's another thing in time, But like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>where where you have Montgomery? Montgomery? But like he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a receiver. You know he's gonna go line up

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<v Speaker 1>in the spot. You know he's gonna go run arount.

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<v Speaker 1>But the other team doesn't know that when you're in

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<v Speaker 1>the huddle. So I wouldn't be opposed seeing them do

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<v Speaker 1>some of that. I just in this game, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the Eagles are they can handle something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, when you get to a team like the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>I think when you get to a team like the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>if Montgomery is still healthy by then, seeing some of

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<v Speaker 1>that stuff would be would would make I know you

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<v Speaker 1>hate twenty one.

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<v Speaker 2>I do mainly twenty. The main reason why, and and

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<v Speaker 2>you know everybody that is listening probably has hurt it

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<v Speaker 2>as Pony most of the time. The two running backs.

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<v Speaker 2>There's two things that don't typically statistically bear out the

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<v Speaker 2>way people think.

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<v Speaker 1>Here comes offensive coordinator revels.

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<v Speaker 2>Are hurry up is one. Everybody thinks that you run

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<v Speaker 2>hurry up and it solves all your problems, right like

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<v Speaker 2>you just run tempo, no huddle, Oh, don't worry about it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna fix everything. It seldom does the US thought.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing that is hasn't been statistically productive is pony.

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<v Speaker 2>Like they even going back to Brady with like Rex

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<v Speaker 2>Burkehead and James White, they would do it a little bit. Statistically,

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<v Speaker 2>it doesn't yield results, Like it's not an efficient package.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Bill O'Brien different? And can he get more out

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<v Speaker 2>of it than somebody else could? Like we'll see.

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<v Speaker 1>Like maybe that's why I also think Time Montgomery's a

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<v Speaker 1>unique player in this because it's not he's not really

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<v Speaker 1>a running back.

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<v Speaker 2>What I love about Time Montgomery is that we know

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<v Speaker 2>O'Brien loves empty. Yes, you know we're gonna see some

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<v Speaker 2>empty And what they can do is they can go

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<v Speaker 2>they can be run personnel, or they could be empty

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<v Speaker 2>and they can blur the lines.

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<v Speaker 1>That's kind of what I met.

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<v Speaker 2>So if they get them like a nickel and they

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<v Speaker 2>like the grouping that they have out there to pass

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<v Speaker 2>the ball, they can go five wide empty against their

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<v Speaker 2>base nickel front. Then they can run the ghetto under

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<v Speaker 2>center and run the ball on the next play right

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<v Speaker 2>like and they can go back and forth like that,

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<v Speaker 2>which can be really helpful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just saying I think you can pound that

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<v Speaker 1>because Ramondre can line up. I mean he's not the

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<v Speaker 1>receiver Time Montgomery is, but he can line up outside

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<v Speaker 1>the formation. And if you come out with Remandre and

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<v Speaker 1>Time Montgomery, you can you could come out. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>The one I've really talked to, and this is me

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<v Speaker 1>getting a little ahead of myself and getting a little excited,

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<v Speaker 1>is twenty two with Time Montgomery Mi Kasiki, Because do

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<v Speaker 1>you have two tight ends, two running backs? Is it

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<v Speaker 1>really eleven with Mike Kasiki playing wide receiver and Time

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<v Speaker 1>Montgomery playing receiver? Like, Yeah, you can come out if

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<v Speaker 1>you have Mike Kasiki and Time Montgomery in the huddle,

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<v Speaker 1>you can come out and goal line, you can come

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<v Speaker 1>out in five wide.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's what I'm hoping they're gonna be able to

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<v Speaker 2>do because so much of what I want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>about their receivers Depson who he think is going to

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<v Speaker 2>play there, they don't have We know this, and we

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<v Speaker 2>don't have to beat a dead horse, but they don't

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<v Speaker 2>have an aj Brown or DeVante's But they don't even

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<v Speaker 2>have one of those guys. And Eagles have too, right, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>they don't have one of those guys. But what O'Brien's

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<v Speaker 2>really effective at doing is using personnel and formations to dictate,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to find openings and create openings and defenses.

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<v Speaker 2>And so there's a big advantage I think to their

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<v Speaker 2>twelve personnel package quote unquote with Hunter, Henry and Kasiki

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<v Speaker 2>and Ormandre. That can be empty or that can be

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<v Speaker 2>under centered traditional twelve right, and you just don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the difference until you see it, and that I think

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<v Speaker 2>can be effective. Talking about the receivers, we know Devonte

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<v Speaker 2>Parker's dealing with the knee injuries on the injury report yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>With that, so we know officially that it's a knee

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<v Speaker 2>that's been hurting him. But let's just for argument's sake,

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<v Speaker 2>because we don't. We don't know. You can't have a

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<v Speaker 2>crystal ball and know if DeVante Parker is going to

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<v Speaker 2>be one hundred percent, is going to play whatever, What

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<v Speaker 2>do you expect to see the most used receivers to

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<v Speaker 2>be I think is the best way to put it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then there's that whole thing about ju Jusney too.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, I'm not worried about ju Jusney.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know about I'll just say this, it's Kendrick

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<v Speaker 1>Borne time. He was the best receiver this summer. He's healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>He you talk about the chemistry with Mac. It's nothing

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<v Speaker 1>against Juju or Parker, but he's been here the longest.

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<v Speaker 1>We know him and Mac get along. Well, give me

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<v Speaker 1>Kendrick Borne in this game. Give me a full dose

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<v Speaker 1>of kenrin.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to guess, if you had to guess when

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<v Speaker 2>we get the snap counts on Monday morning, who is one, two,

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<v Speaker 2>three out of the receiver.

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<v Speaker 1>I think just if park let me. I need to

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<v Speaker 1>see the injury report today, but I do think there's

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<v Speaker 1>clearly something going on with Parker. They're gonna be president.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Juju is still number one because that's just

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<v Speaker 1>they paid him, and he's the slot guy. But like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's gonna be in the high nineties. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a percentage in terms of percentage, right, sad percentage.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Bourne could end up high eighties. Loan nineties

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<v Speaker 1>you have me too, and then Parker probably comes in

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere around seventy sixty seventy how much of the rookies

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<v Speaker 1>Tomorrio Douglas probably guy that gets a handful of snaps

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<v Speaker 1>called ten f teen snaps, maybe a specific package like

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<v Speaker 1>he'll all be in the same formation. Kaishan Boody to me,

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<v Speaker 1>is still the somebody's got to get hurt for him

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<v Speaker 1>to get on the field significantly. He'll play on special

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<v Speaker 1>teams and maybe he gets a snap or two here

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<v Speaker 1>or there, but it's nothing against him as a player.

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<v Speaker 1>We've talked about this to Mario. Douglas gives them something

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<v Speaker 1>they don't otherwise have in speed. I as good as

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<v Speaker 1>Kaishon Boody looks like potential wise, he doesn't give them

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<v Speaker 1>anything they don't have between Juju and Bourn, and his

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<v Speaker 1>game is still got to grow a little bit to

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<v Speaker 1>catch those guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't see where he plays.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's gonna be Juju and Bourn will be

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<v Speaker 2>your clear cut one and two. Yeah, mainly because Parker's hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think when Parker gets back in there, it

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<v Speaker 2>might be Juju Parker Born.

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<v Speaker 1>So I will say this to the callers point with

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<v Speaker 1>Kayshan Boody playing, if Parker does get hurt like he

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<v Speaker 1>can't play, I do think those snaps go to Kaishaan

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<v Speaker 1>Booty before to Mario Douglas. I think Tomrio Douglas's role

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<v Speaker 1>is what it is. It's not gonna change. They're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna like it's all right, this is your package, this

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<v Speaker 1>is your route tree, whereas Kaishan Bouti is the guy

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<v Speaker 1>if you lose one of those top three. Now the

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<v Speaker 1>callers said Kaishan Booty at the X, I actually think

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<v Speaker 1>it's Kendrick Born at the X, Kaishan Booty at the Z.

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<v Speaker 1>If DeVante Parker can't go, or maybe they mix and match, um,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe they rotate it. But that's how I would do it.

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<v Speaker 1>But that to me is how if Parker's injury is

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<v Speaker 1>worse than we think, that's how Kaishan Budi gets on

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<v Speaker 1>the field.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you that I think Tomorrow Douglas they

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<v Speaker 2>have a very specific role in mind for him. My

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<v Speaker 2>guess is it's gonna be mostly third down and maybe

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<v Speaker 2>some gadget style plays out of RPO.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll say say, mostly third down. I love him as

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<v Speaker 1>a drive starter, r pod drive star. Well, it can

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<v Speaker 1>be RPOs.

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<v Speaker 2>It can be because I'm running the show now, so oh.

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<v Speaker 1>I RPOs some of that orbit motion stuff they did

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<v Speaker 1>with market Shillings last year. I don't know. I like

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<v Speaker 1>him as a drive call it a gut instinct. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't really have a full take behind it, but I

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<v Speaker 1>like him as a drive star to get the ball

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<v Speaker 1>in his hands right away. And you know, eagles come out,

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<v Speaker 1>they think they know what they're looking at, they get

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<v Speaker 1>in their set and then all of a sudden, boom,

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<v Speaker 1>here's this and then you have that in the back

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<v Speaker 1>of your head.

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<v Speaker 2>So last thing on the receivers, then I I want

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about the CB matchups as well, and then

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<v Speaker 2>we have one more call to get to here so

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<v Speaker 2>we can do this.

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<v Speaker 1>And then Brady, Oh yeah, I'm Brady.

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<v Speaker 2>We can do it. We got fifteen minutes to full

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<v Speaker 2>this out.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go.

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<v Speaker 2>So first thing, last receiver take here, because I think

1:12:12.200 --> 1:12:13.720
<v Speaker 2>we're in lockstep on the guys that are on the

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<v Speaker 2>fifty three men roster. This also depends on how they

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<v Speaker 2>feel about Matt Corral, But if Parker is limited or out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think with a thyroc pits take no.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I think there's a chance that Jalen Rager is

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<v Speaker 2>elevated from the practice squad and plays.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm.

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<v Speaker 2>I think there's a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you why, because he's got to play against

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<v Speaker 1>his forward team. O Adam Schefter, I'm not Schefter was

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<v Speaker 1>all hyped about that.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to revenge game.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>What I'm going with is based off of last year's film,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know they have a new defensive coordinator and

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<v Speaker 2>some new faces and YadA YadA YadA. Motion against the

1:12:52.680 --> 1:12:56.960
<v Speaker 2>Eagles defense works. They have trouble with most.

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<v Speaker 1>Which is weird because that's normally something that's tougher for

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<v Speaker 1>man teams than zone teams.

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<v Speaker 2>They have all sorts of kinds of problems with motion.

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<v Speaker 2>And we know in the Super Bowl they'd scored wide

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<v Speaker 2>open touchdowns and everybody went googo gaga over Andy Reid

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<v Speaker 2>because he discovered return motion, which was Steve car Sarkesian's

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<v Speaker 2>discovery at Alabama. But that's besides the.

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<v Speaker 1>Point, Well, know that that ties in because that's Steve

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<v Speaker 1>Sarkisian at Alabama with Mac Challenge. Yeah, if we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>see Alabama, Mac, you're gonna see some of that.

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<v Speaker 2>So the one thing, well, other than like you know,

1:13:26.400 --> 1:13:29.040
<v Speaker 2>clearing out coverage that Jalen Rager can just like run

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<v Speaker 2>in a straight line really fast and clear out the coverage.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The one thing that I think that he can be

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<v Speaker 2>effective at on an NFL field is motion, like whether

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<v Speaker 2>it's jet motion you mentioned orbit which is like end

1:13:40.240 --> 1:13:43.880
<v Speaker 2>around style motion, or throwing him screens or handing the

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<v Speaker 2>ball off to him off of motion. He's effective at

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<v Speaker 2>that and I think that they can get the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>on it. So I think that there's a world where

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<v Speaker 2>that's Pop Douglas and they just give that opportunity to

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<v Speaker 2>Pop Douglas. But in the preseason, Pop Douglas hurt himself

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<v Speaker 2>on a screen, right, so.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't on the injury report. I hope they don't

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<v Speaker 1>bury Pop douglast for Jalen Rager for everything we went

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<v Speaker 1>through this summer, that would be disappointed.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think they will, but I think that there's

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<v Speaker 2>a chance that the Chiefs use Kadarius Tony and Sky Moore.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that there's a chance that the Patriots might

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<v Speaker 2>try to hit them with a ton of motion and

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<v Speaker 2>have both Pop Douglas and Jalen Rager in their back

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<v Speaker 2>pocket in case they need Reager to do it too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I think it's possible that if Parker is

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<v Speaker 2>elimited or out and they feel okay about Matt Corrall

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<v Speaker 2>being the quarter backup quarterback, that Jalen Rager and Time Montgomery.

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<v Speaker 1>Spin this another way. What if they feel they don't

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<v Speaker 1>need Time Montgomery, then it could then that too. I

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<v Speaker 1>almost feel like that's more realistic because he they used

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<v Speaker 1>him as much as a receiver as it is a

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<v Speaker 1>running back. And I wonder if they'd flip that and say,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, this is going to be because he's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to run out of the backfield Rager. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>like the same sort of skill set a little bit. Yep,

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<v Speaker 1>So I elevating Rager and Montgomery to me would be

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<v Speaker 1>a little weird.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So maybe it's Mong it's Rager and Zappy at

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<v Speaker 2>that point, yeah, or somebody else your thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it could be your way to I just

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<v Speaker 1>I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Think they're going to test the Eagles with motion, and

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<v Speaker 2>I think that that's like the one thing I saw

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<v Speaker 2>Rayyer do at a decent level from last year. All

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<v Speaker 2>let's take this call and then we'll wrap it all. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>Mark is in Connecticut. What's up, Mark Evan? What's going on? Guys?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, Mike Evans.

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<v Speaker 5>What is your thoughts on bringing in Mike Evans?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I think he's.

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<v Speaker 4>Better than d Hop and he obviously wants out of Tampa.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fair question. And thanks for the call, Mark, Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>I do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I do it. I wouldn't give him an extension.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, see that. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I take him as a rental for the year and

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<v Speaker 1>say what, we're going to throw you one hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty passes and you're gonna get your value up and

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<v Speaker 1>you'll go cash in free agency. I'd give up. I

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<v Speaker 1>I'd give up a like Top one hundred picking up myke.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't give up a first So I give up

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<v Speaker 1>a top one hundred picking up Mike Evans.

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<v Speaker 2>Right now, Mike Evans I is no longer at the

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<v Speaker 2>peak of his powers.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but he's still really good.

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<v Speaker 2>He's good. But my concern with him at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a far more durable DeVante Parker at this point

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<v Speaker 2>to me, and that the durability is a factor. Like,

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<v Speaker 2>don't get me. I'm not belittling or downplaying the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that Mike Evans being able to be out there for

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<v Speaker 2>seventeen games makes a big difference than Devonte Parker being

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<v Speaker 2>in and out of the lineup. But from a skill

1:16:25.760 --> 1:16:29.519
<v Speaker 2>set perspective, both of those guys don't separate a ton anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Both of those guys don't run by people a ton anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Evans still pretty hard to tackle. It's more running

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<v Speaker 1>through guys than running by guys.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about as a road runner, Like he's not.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not a separator. He never really was, but now

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<v Speaker 2>it's got as he's agent's obviously he can still play.

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<v Speaker 1>He can still dictate card.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna be contradictory because, like I said that,

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted DeAndre Hopkins so badly, and it's it's they're

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<v Speaker 2>both in similar spots in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Ever, better Evans better than Hopkins at this point?

1:16:57.160 --> 1:16:59.200
<v Speaker 2>I think Evans might. He's more durable, for sure.

1:16:59.040 --> 1:17:01.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he's better. It goes back to your thing

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<v Speaker 1>about the Tuesday morning meeting. Is Mike Evans the guy

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna draw. How would you give up?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I think that it's going to take less than

1:17:09.160 --> 1:17:11.080
<v Speaker 2>people think. If he does end up on the trade.

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<v Speaker 1>Block we had, can I do it for a third

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<v Speaker 1>round pick?

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<v Speaker 2>I think you would win the bidding war for a

1:17:15.360 --> 1:17:17.040
<v Speaker 2>third round pick. I think that's the highest was going

1:17:17.080 --> 1:17:21.080
<v Speaker 2>to be. So he's a because if his years accrued

1:17:21.080 --> 1:17:23.479
<v Speaker 2>in the league, the best compick they can get for

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<v Speaker 2>him is a fifth That's just the way the formula one.

1:17:26.880 --> 1:17:28.559
<v Speaker 2>So the best convict that they can get for him

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<v Speaker 2>is a fifth round compick. So if he he's a

1:17:30.800 --> 1:17:32.439
<v Speaker 2>free agent at the end of the year. So if

1:17:32.439 --> 1:17:34.759
<v Speaker 2>he just leaves in free agency next year, the Bucks

1:17:34.760 --> 1:17:38.040
<v Speaker 2>are only getting a fit. So a fourth might get

1:17:38.040 --> 1:17:40.360
<v Speaker 2>it done. And I know that that sounds crazy because

1:17:40.400 --> 1:17:42.760
<v Speaker 2>of his resume and his pedigree in the league, But

1:17:42.840 --> 1:17:45.080
<v Speaker 2>look at the other trades for veteran receivers at that

1:17:45.160 --> 1:17:48.960
<v Speaker 2>time in their careers. DeAndre Hopkins got nothing, Amari Cooper

1:17:49.000 --> 1:17:50.760
<v Speaker 2>got what like a fifth I think it was.

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<v Speaker 1>He went for a lot. He went for too much.

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<v Speaker 2>Was that the thing with him to Cleveland?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought they gave up like a second and a fifth.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh did they really? I thought it was.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll part of it was the new contract. I

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<v Speaker 1>would trade for Mike Evans under the understanding that he's

1:18:03.680 --> 1:18:05.479
<v Speaker 1>not getting a new contract all right. Oh no, you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a fifth and a sixth swap. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who I'm thinking.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's not much right now for the veteran receiver.

1:18:11.360 --> 1:18:14.320
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I'm overpaying with a third, I still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>You need to beat a fifth, right, because they're gonna

1:18:16.160 --> 1:18:17.519
<v Speaker 2>get a fifth just from letting him walk.

1:18:17.640 --> 1:18:19.240
<v Speaker 1>You need to beat a fifth. So everybody's gonna offer

1:18:19.240 --> 1:18:21.120
<v Speaker 1>a fourth. So you offer a third. Yeah, maybe, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get like a sixth back or something and there

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<v Speaker 1>you go.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's where I would do it.

1:18:25.080 --> 1:18:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I would do it. I would absolutely do it. But

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<v Speaker 1>I but I would not if he would he hold out,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wouldn't do it. If he's expecting an extension, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not giving it, but for this year to maximize

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<v Speaker 1>mac Jones, to take some of the attention away from

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<v Speaker 1>these other wide receivers. Yes, but if if he's like,

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<v Speaker 1>all right, well, if you're in a trade for me,

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<v Speaker 1>I need an extension, or I'm not gonna suit up.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, cool, hanging up the phone. I'm done.

1:18:47.720 --> 1:18:51.840
<v Speaker 2>We're done here, Okay, cornerback matchups. Yes, I'm gonna say this,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know how you feel about it. I

1:18:53.320 --> 1:18:54.400
<v Speaker 2>haven't even talked to you about this.

1:18:54.600 --> 1:18:56.880
<v Speaker 1>I have a weird take on this too, so this

1:18:56.920 --> 1:18:57.559
<v Speaker 1>will be interesting.

1:18:58.960 --> 1:19:00.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm throwing Christians.

1:19:00.960 --> 1:19:02.760
<v Speaker 1>Oh, I have the exact opposite take.

1:19:03.040 --> 1:19:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm throwing them to the wolves.

1:19:04.200 --> 1:19:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't take is you?

1:19:06.680 --> 1:19:09.160
<v Speaker 2>This bothers me and it goes back to the fangio

1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:10.760
<v Speaker 2>thing and we don't have enough time for me to

1:19:11.200 --> 1:19:13.720
<v Speaker 2>rant about this. But it goes back to the like

1:19:14.560 --> 1:19:17.439
<v Speaker 2>you drafted the guy in the first round, you really

1:19:17.479 --> 1:19:20.360
<v Speaker 2>really like the guy. He's shown all the the the

1:19:20.640 --> 1:19:24.200
<v Speaker 2>checked all the boxes to this point in his rookie campaign,

1:19:24.800 --> 1:19:27.640
<v Speaker 2>he's ready to go. What are you hiding him for?

1:19:27.800 --> 1:19:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Like?

1:19:27.920 --> 1:19:29.200
<v Speaker 2>What are you protecting him from?

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<v Speaker 1>So, I honestly, just aside from that, I don't think

1:19:33.040 --> 1:19:35.800
<v Speaker 1>you need to. I don't think you need to throw

1:19:35.840 --> 1:19:38.360
<v Speaker 1>him to the to the I almost said to the bills.

1:19:38.360 --> 1:19:39.960
<v Speaker 1>They'll throw them to the bills. That's gonna happen.

1:19:40.000 --> 1:19:42.960
<v Speaker 2>I think they need to. Why two reasons.

1:19:42.800 --> 1:19:45.080
<v Speaker 1>You're you're talking about him on an island with AJ Brown,

1:19:45.439 --> 1:19:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you're talking about him covering or him on an island,

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<v Speaker 1>because I wouldn't meet him on an island.

1:19:48.760 --> 1:19:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I would I would not say on an island. I

1:19:51.680 --> 1:19:54.400
<v Speaker 2>think that that's putting a little bit too much of

1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:58.840
<v Speaker 2>like it's oversimplified. But I here's why I don't think

1:19:58.920 --> 1:20:01.519
<v Speaker 2>you can scheme around on this game plan, being like

1:20:01.920 --> 1:20:03.479
<v Speaker 2>we need to protect Christian zone.

1:20:03.479 --> 1:20:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, No, and I don't think you need to do

1:20:04.800 --> 1:20:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that either. But here's there's one very obvious matchup here

1:20:07.200 --> 1:20:10.120
<v Speaker 1>when you're putting it together. Jonathan Jones on Davanta Smith. Ye,

1:20:10.920 --> 1:20:13.320
<v Speaker 1>that to me is so the whole thing their philosophy

1:20:13.320 --> 1:20:16.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna put Do you think they truly view gonzalz

1:20:16.560 --> 1:20:18.280
<v Speaker 1>is like their number one corner? Do you think there's

1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:20.000
<v Speaker 1>some flexibility in that at this point?

1:20:20.120 --> 1:20:23.400
<v Speaker 2>I think that they view it as body type. The

1:20:23.400 --> 1:20:28.240
<v Speaker 2>body type, Okay, so perfect. So Jonathan Jones on DeVante Smith.

1:20:28.600 --> 1:20:31.240
<v Speaker 2>That's the guy you're leaving alone. That's the guy you're

1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:34.920
<v Speaker 2>saying you take him out now. I'm going Christian goan

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<v Speaker 2>Zalz on AJ Brown with help Marcus Jones in the

1:20:39.000 --> 1:20:41.599
<v Speaker 2>slot because the Eagle slot receivers suck. Honestly, it's gonna

1:20:41.600 --> 1:20:44.320
<v Speaker 2>be mostly Davante Smith, and we've already established as Jonathan Jones.

1:20:44.720 --> 1:20:46.720
<v Speaker 2>If it's DeVante Smith in the slot, then it's Jack

1:20:46.800 --> 1:20:49.400
<v Speaker 2>Jones on the other corner. If Davante Smith's on the boundary,

1:20:49.640 --> 1:20:52.840
<v Speaker 2>then it's again Jonathan Jones on the slot. And you're

1:20:53.200 --> 1:20:55.320
<v Speaker 2>you know, you're mixing Jack Jones in with Christian Zalz

1:20:55.320 --> 1:20:58.519
<v Speaker 2>throw different looks and then Jalen Mills on Dallas god Okay,

1:20:58.600 --> 1:21:01.000
<v Speaker 2>so I agree with Jamn Mills on Dallas Goddard. Yeah,

1:21:01.000 --> 1:21:03.679
<v Speaker 2>I think we're in similar places. I think the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna play a ton of twelve in this game,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think that the Patriots should match it with

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<v Speaker 2>three or four safeties on the field.

1:21:09.800 --> 1:21:11.559
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, then you don't. Then you take Marcus Jones out

1:21:11.560 --> 1:21:12.320
<v Speaker 1>as the st Yeah.

1:21:12.600 --> 1:21:17.000
<v Speaker 2>I think they're gonna play big nickel and big dime

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<v Speaker 2>and play two corners a lot of this game that

1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:22.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that your corners are Christianzalez and Jonathan Jones,

1:21:22.200 --> 1:21:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Jonathan Jones and DeVante Smith. I like that.

1:21:24.120 --> 1:21:24.960
<v Speaker 1>And that's the island.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep.

1:21:25.520 --> 1:21:26.240
<v Speaker 1>He's not getting help.

1:21:26.360 --> 1:21:30.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but So here's the thing. You can't. You can't

1:21:30.280 --> 1:21:32.840
<v Speaker 2>double bolls. I've heard this before, right, because they'll run

1:21:32.840 --> 1:21:34.240
<v Speaker 2>the ball right down your throat and they'll run for

1:21:34.240 --> 1:21:36.439
<v Speaker 2>two fifty for you that because you have you're gonna

1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:39.080
<v Speaker 2>have two safeties deep and you're there's nothing gonna be

1:21:39.120 --> 1:21:40.960
<v Speaker 2>in the middle of the field and they're gonna torch

1:21:41.000 --> 1:21:42.840
<v Speaker 2>you like that. You have to get the extra hat

1:21:42.880 --> 1:21:44.280
<v Speaker 2>in the box. You have to find a way to

1:21:44.320 --> 1:21:46.400
<v Speaker 2>have seven guys in the box. You just do. So

1:21:46.640 --> 1:21:51.080
<v Speaker 2>what you do, in my my mind is you put

1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Christian Gonzales on AJ Brown and then you find a

1:21:54.680 --> 1:21:57.479
<v Speaker 2>way to help him in the respect that you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have a help defender take away something from AJ Brown.

1:22:01.240 --> 1:22:03.599
<v Speaker 2>So what a lot of good teams do is they

1:22:03.640 --> 1:22:06.479
<v Speaker 2>take away that first window throw. So they're gonna have

1:22:06.520 --> 1:22:08.800
<v Speaker 2>the corner play off of AJ Brown, but they're not

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<v Speaker 2>gonna give up the quick slant of the quick curl

1:22:10.680 --> 1:22:12.840
<v Speaker 2>because they're gonna have a defender in that passing link.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

1:22:13.160 --> 1:22:15.519
<v Speaker 2>So now all Christian Gonzalez has to worry about his

1:22:15.680 --> 1:22:19.200
<v Speaker 2>verticals and like skinny posts, right, like the deeper.

1:22:18.880 --> 1:22:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Slants or our routes.

1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.400
<v Speaker 2>Right, But all he's only worrying about things that are

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<v Speaker 2>breaking out like eight yards, right, He's not worrying about

1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:28.559
<v Speaker 2>all the quick stuff underneath because you have the defender there.

1:22:28.840 --> 1:22:32.360
<v Speaker 2>So he's gonna be on AJ Brown over the top

1:22:32.400 --> 1:22:34.639
<v Speaker 2>one on one, but he's gonna have a head start.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah. So and this is where the whole thing

1:22:36.280 --> 1:22:38.320
<v Speaker 1>is interesting with Devin McCarty. In the past, it would

1:22:38.360 --> 1:22:41.600
<v Speaker 1>be AJ Brown or Christian Zauce on AJ Brown with

1:22:41.720 --> 1:22:44.640
<v Speaker 1>Devin McCarty as that over the top help safety. That

1:22:44.680 --> 1:22:47.120
<v Speaker 1>guy's not there anymore. So instead now you're helping on

1:22:47.160 --> 1:22:49.439
<v Speaker 1>the short stuff and you're having Gonzales takeaway with yeh.

1:22:49.600 --> 1:22:52.400
<v Speaker 1>So once they get down the field, Gonzale AJ Brown,

1:22:52.600 --> 1:22:54.439
<v Speaker 1>if he's not the best jump ball receiver in the league,

1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:54.920
<v Speaker 1>he's up there.

1:22:55.040 --> 1:22:55.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:22:55.360 --> 1:22:57.960
<v Speaker 1>But Christian Zalz you drafted him to be competitive at

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<v Speaker 1>the catch point.

1:22:58.520 --> 1:23:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's there. Be body type. He's six foot one,

1:23:02.439 --> 1:23:05.120
<v Speaker 2>six foot two. He runs like the wind. You can't

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<v Speaker 2>hide him from AJ Brown in this game, right, he

1:23:08.080 --> 1:23:08.960
<v Speaker 2>this is what he's here for.

1:23:09.040 --> 1:23:10.839
<v Speaker 1>So the way, so the way you gave your initial

1:23:10.840 --> 1:23:13.040
<v Speaker 1>take was like you're gonna have christians as on a

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<v Speaker 1>J Brown on one side and then you're just that's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be it right for that matchup.

1:23:16.840 --> 1:23:19.519
<v Speaker 2>That's what you had me. No, I mean, that's you

1:23:19.520 --> 1:23:22.080
<v Speaker 2>wouldn't do that. I don't think any regard like even

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<v Speaker 2>like even though people think about like ty Law, Derell

1:23:24.960 --> 1:23:28.320
<v Speaker 2>Reeves Gilmore as being on islands, they were never truly.

1:23:28.040 --> 1:23:32.200
<v Speaker 1>On island respect sometimes not sometimes they were, I think.

1:23:32.680 --> 1:23:35.360
<v Speaker 2>Was they always had post safety help, Okay, oh yeah,

1:23:35.360 --> 1:23:39.439
<v Speaker 2>they Devin mccordy, Yeah, yeah, at least so that that's

1:23:39.600 --> 1:23:43.160
<v Speaker 2>that's That's the thing about Christian Zauces. I've seen a

1:23:43.200 --> 1:23:47.880
<v Speaker 2>lot of he can't cover a J. Brown. He has

1:23:47.920 --> 1:23:48.840
<v Speaker 2>to cover a J. Brown.

1:23:48.920 --> 1:23:51.040
<v Speaker 1>That's that's the matchup. That's you drafted him to cover

1:23:51.080 --> 1:23:51.360
<v Speaker 1>this guy.

1:23:51.479 --> 1:23:54.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and if he if he has a bad game

1:23:54.600 --> 1:23:57.080
<v Speaker 2>against a J. Brown, that's one of the best receivers

1:23:57.120 --> 1:23:59.200
<v Speaker 2>in the league. You tip your cap, you'd say he's

1:23:59.200 --> 1:24:01.320
<v Speaker 2>a rookie in his first start and he got torched

1:24:01.320 --> 1:24:03.479
<v Speaker 2>by one of the top five receivers in the NFL.

1:24:03.720 --> 1:24:05.640
<v Speaker 2>And it is what it is. But if you go

1:24:05.680 --> 1:24:08.120
<v Speaker 2>into this game plan thinking that we have to double

1:24:08.160 --> 1:24:10.479
<v Speaker 2>AJ Brown at all costs, you are going to give

1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:12.960
<v Speaker 2>up so much everywhere else that you just can't do it,

1:24:13.040 --> 1:24:15.800
<v Speaker 2>like they have too many things to cover, So that

1:24:15.800 --> 1:24:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that's the CV matchups really quickly, your thoughts on Brady

1:24:19.560 --> 1:24:21.360
<v Speaker 2>coming back? Like, what do you I think the best

1:24:21.360 --> 1:24:23.400
<v Speaker 2>thing you know we can reminisce about Brady any day

1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:25.559
<v Speaker 2>of the week. What are you most looking forward to

1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:27.040
<v Speaker 2>about the Brady festivities?

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<v Speaker 1>When the opening notes of public service announcement hit.

1:24:31.479 --> 1:24:34.879
<v Speaker 2>I think that's happening. Yeah, I actually don't know, so okay,

1:24:34.920 --> 1:24:37.719
<v Speaker 2>And I really don't know they have.

1:24:37.640 --> 1:24:38.960
<v Speaker 1>To play it when he walks out. I don't know.

1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:41.400
<v Speaker 1>Maybe it's pre game, maybe it's halftime, Like, I don't

1:24:41.439 --> 1:24:44.320
<v Speaker 1>know when they do that. It might be halftime and

1:24:44.479 --> 1:24:46.320
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna run down the sideline or anything. But like, no,

1:24:47.040 --> 1:24:49.960
<v Speaker 1>those opening notes, when that hits, and just the energy

1:24:50.000 --> 1:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>in the building, that's going to be unbelievable. Here's my

1:24:52.680 --> 1:24:55.479
<v Speaker 1>weird hot take on the Brady thing. Yeah, don't give

1:24:55.520 --> 1:24:58.120
<v Speaker 1>him everything. Make sure there's reasons to have him coming.

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<v Speaker 2>Back, don't. I wouldn't worry about that.

1:25:00.240 --> 1:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Because like there's Jersey retirement, there's Pats Hall of Fame,

1:25:05.680 --> 1:25:07.760
<v Speaker 1>there's I know some people, I'm not gonna make you

1:25:07.800 --> 1:25:09.360
<v Speaker 1>give anything away, but some people have talked about there

1:25:09.360 --> 1:25:11.080
<v Speaker 1>maybe being like the Patriots arning some sort of ring

1:25:11.080 --> 1:25:13.800
<v Speaker 1>of honor or something like with him, which would make sense.

1:25:14.040 --> 1:25:16.719
<v Speaker 1>They're probably gonna name the statue or naming something after

1:25:16.800 --> 1:25:21.519
<v Speaker 1>him my like tinfoil hot take conspiracy theory, the Tom

1:25:21.520 --> 1:25:24.479
<v Speaker 1>Brady Lighthouse. It's I highly doubt that's gonna happen, but

1:25:24.520 --> 1:25:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that would be cool. But space, space it out, don't

1:25:28.320 --> 1:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>do it all. We don't need it all at once.

1:25:30.200 --> 1:25:32.559
<v Speaker 2>Keep them coming back, don't worry about that. Okay, cool, Okay,

1:25:32.600 --> 1:25:33.960
<v Speaker 2>the second my Brady thing.

1:25:34.040 --> 1:25:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm also the one other thing. Sorry, when these things happen,

1:25:38.880 --> 1:25:40.639
<v Speaker 1>whether it's like after the super Bowl and they bring

1:25:40.680 --> 1:25:42.519
<v Speaker 1>out the trophies or when different guys get in the

1:25:42.560 --> 1:25:45.000
<v Speaker 1>pass hall, the other guys who come back, just seeing

1:25:45.040 --> 1:25:48.040
<v Speaker 1>them back is cool too. And you know who's who's good.

1:25:48.040 --> 1:25:49.720
<v Speaker 1>There's certain guys you just kind of figure are going

1:25:49.760 --> 1:25:51.439
<v Speaker 1>to be here, but like who's good? Is Gronk gonna

1:25:51.479 --> 1:25:55.120
<v Speaker 1>be here? That would be interesting. You know, guys like

1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure Edelman will be here, I'm sure like James

1:25:56.760 --> 1:25:58.839
<v Speaker 1>White will be here. How many guys from those earlier

1:25:58.880 --> 1:26:01.160
<v Speaker 1>teams will be back? Or he's obviously going to be coaching,

1:26:01.160 --> 1:26:03.720
<v Speaker 1>but like, will you see guys like I'm trying to

1:26:03.720 --> 1:26:06.720
<v Speaker 1>think of offensive guys. Kevin Falk will probably be here.

1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:09.800
<v Speaker 1>I would think Ben Watson, Ben what I could see

1:26:09.800 --> 1:26:12.280
<v Speaker 1>Ben Watson coming back? Dan Gram see that Dan Graham

1:26:12.280 --> 1:26:13.200
<v Speaker 1>would be cool to see.

1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:14.679
<v Speaker 2>Matt Light might be here.

1:26:14.560 --> 1:26:16.519
<v Speaker 1>Now, Like could we get Antoine Smith back here? Would

1:26:16.520 --> 1:26:17.760
<v Speaker 1>Corey Dillon come for that?

1:26:17.920 --> 1:26:19.799
<v Speaker 2>Has Antoine Smith been back for anything?

1:26:20.160 --> 1:26:23.360
<v Speaker 1>He was back? I think when they did the anniversary

1:26:23.400 --> 1:26:25.599
<v Speaker 1>of the two thousand and one team, remember that they

1:26:25.640 --> 1:26:27.320
<v Speaker 1>had like every there were only like four or five

1:26:27.360 --> 1:26:29.679
<v Speaker 1>guys that were here for that, like they were obscured,

1:26:29.680 --> 1:26:33.280
<v Speaker 1>like Matt Stevens was here. T Brusk I would assume

1:26:33.320 --> 1:26:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Bruski and let I don't, well McGuinness, I don't know

1:26:37.840 --> 1:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>what his situation is, Bruskie. If he'll be in Connecticut

1:26:43.320 --> 1:26:44.679
<v Speaker 1>right because they he does.

1:26:44.840 --> 1:26:46.280
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if he does. If he's on the

1:26:46.320 --> 1:26:49.200
<v Speaker 2>air on Sunday. I think Rodney is.

1:26:49.200 --> 1:26:51.760
<v Speaker 1>Right, Rodney's on Sunday night. Yeah, Well, actually Rodney probably

1:26:51.800 --> 1:26:53.240
<v Speaker 1>won't be here because it'll Sunday Night football.

1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:55.000
<v Speaker 2>And I don't think Devon will be here because of

1:26:55.000 --> 1:26:55.400
<v Speaker 2>that too.

1:26:55.720 --> 1:27:00.439
<v Speaker 1>Well no, actually maybe for pregame, they take care copter,

1:27:00.560 --> 1:27:03.120
<v Speaker 1>so they'll get it. That's Teddy Teddy. I think he

1:27:03.160 --> 1:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>could they get off the air at one in Bristol. Yeah,

1:27:05.800 --> 1:27:07.880
<v Speaker 1>he could get here for halftime for a four o'clock game.

1:27:08.040 --> 1:27:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Alex Is putting Teddy in the car with the police escort, Like,

1:27:10.840 --> 1:27:14.240
<v Speaker 2>I think he could do it. All right, So I'm gonna.

1:27:14.320 --> 1:27:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Oh, how about it. You think like Charlie Weis will

1:27:16.439 --> 1:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>be here.

1:27:17.120 --> 1:27:21.120
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that would be serious XM like he does radio,

1:27:21.240 --> 1:27:21.880
<v Speaker 2>so all.

1:27:21.800 --> 1:27:23.000
<v Speaker 1>These guys have media stuff.

1:27:23.080 --> 1:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1:27:23.720 --> 1:27:27.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh, who's like the most obscure player that will be here?

1:27:27.160 --> 1:27:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Give me a name.

1:27:29.439 --> 1:27:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Matt Chatham.

1:27:30.680 --> 1:27:34.000
<v Speaker 1>No, that doesn't he works, He's working the game. That

1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>doesn't count this message. I'm gonna Mike Cloud, Okay, that

1:27:39.200 --> 1:27:40.840
<v Speaker 1>that is, I mean, standout Mike.

1:27:41.120 --> 1:27:43.320
<v Speaker 2>There could be some random receivers that played with him

1:27:43.320 --> 1:27:45.519
<v Speaker 2>that caught passes from him, you know, like a like

1:27:45.520 --> 1:27:48.679
<v Speaker 2>a Mike right or like a Tim Right yeah, Tim right, yeah,

1:27:48.680 --> 1:27:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Tim right, Big.

1:27:49.560 --> 1:27:53.479
<v Speaker 1>Big Matt Mulligan, Matt Lanle, No, Matt Langle has Big

1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:53.880
<v Speaker 1>Matt line.

1:27:54.840 --> 1:27:58.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna this might be like this is a little

1:27:58.200 --> 1:28:00.920
<v Speaker 2>bit more of like your your station take. But I'm

1:28:00.920 --> 1:28:04.400
<v Speaker 2>gonna give it. I'm gonna be playing body Language Doctor

1:28:04.439 --> 1:28:06.760
<v Speaker 2>a little bit on Sunday with him and Bill No,

1:28:07.360 --> 1:28:11.600
<v Speaker 2>just him in general. Is he doing this out of

1:28:11.680 --> 1:28:13.639
<v Speaker 2>obligation or because he really wants to be.

1:28:13.760 --> 1:28:16.000
<v Speaker 1>Well, that goes back to my point of like make

1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:19.280
<v Speaker 1>sure there's reasons, because I is he just like all right,

1:28:19.320 --> 1:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm coming back once, get it all out, Let's get

1:28:21.240 --> 1:28:22.599
<v Speaker 1>it all out of the way, Let's do all of it.

1:28:22.800 --> 1:28:26.120
<v Speaker 2>That's that's happening, especially because we've already said it's gonna

1:28:26.120 --> 1:28:28.200
<v Speaker 2>be at halftime, so you have eight minutes at halftime,

1:28:28.320 --> 1:28:30.080
<v Speaker 2>so you can't do all of that in eight minutes.

1:28:31.120 --> 1:28:35.280
<v Speaker 2>My one little body Language Doctor thing is that I

1:28:35.320 --> 1:28:38.519
<v Speaker 2>do really want to know is he into it? Like

1:28:38.680 --> 1:28:41.559
<v Speaker 2>is he really really into it? Because to your point,

1:28:41.600 --> 1:28:44.200
<v Speaker 2>like public service and like he should run onto the

1:28:44.200 --> 1:28:48.439
<v Speaker 2>field like you know, like I'm like you know what

1:28:48.439 --> 1:28:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I mean, Like that should be a pump the crowd up,

1:28:50.560 --> 1:28:52.559
<v Speaker 2>the crowd up. Yeah, And like is he is he

1:28:52.680 --> 1:28:54.960
<v Speaker 2>rooting for the Patriots? Is he into it? Is he?

1:28:55.200 --> 1:28:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Like does he look like he wants? And I'm not

1:28:57.200 --> 1:28:59.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna hold it against him if he doesn't, but I

1:29:00.200 --> 1:29:04.639
<v Speaker 2>will admit as a as a Patriots fan, my fandom

1:29:04.800 --> 1:29:08.559
<v Speaker 2>in me, it does still kind of hurt that the

1:29:08.560 --> 1:29:11.360
<v Speaker 2>way it ended, right, And I'm not saying that it's

1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>all his fault, and I completely understand both sides of

1:29:14.120 --> 1:29:17.439
<v Speaker 2>it and understand his side wholeheartedly. But at the same time,

1:29:17.560 --> 1:29:20.559
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't become a Bucks fan, right, Like, we're

1:29:20.560 --> 1:29:23.280
<v Speaker 2>still Patriots fans here and the Patriots are still the

1:29:23.280 --> 1:29:27.439
<v Speaker 2>Patriots to us. And is he gonna recognize in his

1:29:27.520 --> 1:29:30.640
<v Speaker 2>post playing career as a Patriot through and through? Or

1:29:30.720 --> 1:29:33.200
<v Speaker 2>is this gonna be like Tom Brady and then it's

1:29:33.200 --> 1:29:36.240
<v Speaker 2>gonna be Patriots, Bucks Brady TB twelve, like you know

1:29:36.280 --> 1:29:39.600
<v Speaker 2>what I mean? Like and that that is interesting to me.

1:29:40.720 --> 1:29:42.840
<v Speaker 2>It's not the most important thing. And I'm glad he's

1:29:42.840 --> 1:29:46.280
<v Speaker 2>coming back, and it's nothing like that. I'm just wondering

1:29:47.160 --> 1:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>how much does he really want to be here. I

1:29:49.800 --> 1:29:52.960
<v Speaker 2>know that he is really tight still and has a

1:29:53.000 --> 1:29:55.519
<v Speaker 2>ton of respect for mister Kraft, as we all do.

1:29:56.120 --> 1:29:59.160
<v Speaker 2>And I know that it's a possibility that he's coming

1:29:59.200 --> 1:30:02.360
<v Speaker 2>back because mister Krav asked him to and he did

1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:04.640
<v Speaker 2>it because of that. And if that's all it is,

1:30:05.240 --> 1:30:07.680
<v Speaker 2>then that's gonna be attle disappointing. Yeah, it is, and

1:30:07.720 --> 1:30:09.960
<v Speaker 2>I think for a lot of Patriots fans, myself included,

1:30:10.600 --> 1:30:13.960
<v Speaker 2>to close the book on Brady and to like feel

1:30:13.960 --> 1:30:17.519
<v Speaker 2>good about Brady again one hundred percent, we need to

1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:19.960
<v Speaker 2>like stop acting like he ever played for the Bucks.

1:30:20.040 --> 1:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>So I remember, well, at the same time, they should

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<v Speaker 2>call him a seven time super Bowl champion, don't you

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<v Speaker 2>know take that away from him. I mean the respect

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<v Speaker 2>goes both ways, right, Yeah, I don't think you completely

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<v Speaker 2>ignore the butt, but you make it about the Patriots.

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<v Speaker 2>But like, don't feel like he won six super Bowls

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<v Speaker 2>to call him a seven times super Bowl champion, that's

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<v Speaker 2>what he is. They're gonna say six with the.

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<v Speaker 1>Patris They're gonna say that, but I'm saying, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>Its like inside information. I just feel like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But also like, don't if they don't mention the seventh

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<v Speaker 1>one at all, I think that would he could be

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<v Speaker 1>rightly annoyed by that. I'll say this. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>picture Mac Jones rookie year that was it is taken

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<v Speaker 1>on the sideline before a game. It was probably the game.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoever it was that got inducted that year got inducted

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<v Speaker 1>in the Patriots Hall of Fame. Was that Seymour twenty

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<v Speaker 1>one or was no? Seymour was last year?

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<v Speaker 2>It might have been Seymour.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know whoever it was. Whoever it was, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Bludsoe was here, Vince, I think it was Vince. I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're right, which makes it weirder Thandrew Bledsen is here.

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<v Speaker 1>But the point being like there's a picture of Mac Jones,

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<v Speaker 1>Drew Bledsoe and Robert Craft on the sideline before the game,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like, by the way, Drew Drew, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>hoping we'll be here on Sunday. I think I think

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<v Speaker 1>I need a picture of Mac Jones, Tom Brady, Drew

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<v Speaker 1>Bledsoe and Robert Craft. Okay, I remember like seeing that

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<v Speaker 1>picture and being like there's something missing here.

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<v Speaker 2>I know, I know, you know, but don't leave Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Grogan hanging like that. All right, let's no no, But it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's no, no, no, because the whole thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Is the succession.

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<v Speaker 1>Right as long as crafted Craft is on the team

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<v Speaker 1>for so many years, and they've really only had three quarterbacks. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>if Grogey wants to be in the picture, can be

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<v Speaker 1>in the picture. But ideas like Robert Kraft has owned

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<v Speaker 1>this thing first.

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<v Speaker 2>How could you do that to Steve Grogan?

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<v Speaker 1>Robert Craft has owned this thing for so long and

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<v Speaker 1>to have that little turnover quarterback, and obviously Brady's big

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<v Speaker 1>part of it. I mean drew out like ninety six

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<v Speaker 1>to one, like seven years, a long time in the RFL. Yeah, right,

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<v Speaker 1>So who's.

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<v Speaker 2>The second best Patriot quarterback of all time?

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<v Speaker 1>Now? What are you doing to Steve Growin? No, you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, it's it's true Brady bledsoe mac Craft. I

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<v Speaker 1>need that picture, Okay, I need that because when they

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<v Speaker 1>took it in twenty twenty one, and obviously Brady's still playing,

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna be there, but it was like it was like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is almost the perfect picture. Almost.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna hang that up in his bed. I

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<v Speaker 2>gotta go find that picture now over his bed. It's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be a shrine. All right, We gotta we gotta go.

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<v Speaker 2>They've already opened locker rooms. So we're behind the eight

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<v Speaker 2>ball here, but we'll be back next Thursday, same time,

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<v Speaker 2>same place to break down this Eagles game preview the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins and a throwback week next week against the

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<v Speaker 2>Miami Dolphins. So we have Brady and then we have

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<v Speaker 2>throwback week back Back, kicking off the season with that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's almost the end of URT because our first show

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<v Speaker 1>here was a throwback. Oh that was like week five.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, there you go, all right, So see you

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