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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back to the eighty five Self Show

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Speaker 1: Backwoods Lounge. We live here at the One Music Fest

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Speaker 1: with none other than one of hip Hop's greatest kis

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Speaker 1: one of the coldest niggas they ever do it My

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Speaker 1: more Tex Dones say you can raise a child off

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Speaker 1: Jada Kiss lyrics alone, none other than Jada Kiss.

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Speaker 2: And I got my dirty boy Potner in here with.

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Speaker 3: Me today, my brother in radio.

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Speaker 2: Come on, man, what's that list? Finisterity years of hip hop?

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Speaker 4: Bro?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Why, there's a whole lot of hip hop shit

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Speaker 3: going on right now.

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Speaker 2: How y'all doing today? Man? Amazing? Man?

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Speaker 3: That was backstage One Music Fest.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling feeling great weather?

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Speaker 5: It's great? You know, my people looking beautiful. What more

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Speaker 5: can you ask for?

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Speaker 1: What more can you ask for? We hear live at

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Speaker 1: the One Music Fest. Now, Kiss, you known for putting

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Speaker 1: putting something in the air man, and it's only right

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Speaker 1: that you come over here and talk some ship at

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Speaker 1: the Backwoods Lounge. No doubt how long you've been fucking

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Speaker 1: with the Backwoods Gee uh.

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Speaker 5: A few years now, you know, Starting like everybody else,

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Speaker 5: I started with Phillies, then Duchies, and then trans I

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Speaker 5: transformed over to the backwoods. Uh rest in piece the Biggie.

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Speaker 5: The first time I ever smoked the backwoods with Biggie.

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Speaker 2: We never we had never even seen or heard backwoods.

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Speaker 5: And I think he may see gotta roll up some

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Speaker 5: backwoods and we smoke with him, so we knew about him.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 5: I say, like the last last five, last ten, seven

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Speaker 5: to ten years, I've been going strong with bats.

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Speaker 3: Never got it like graduates to backwoods and smokers. You know,

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Speaker 3: you gotta graduate the back with It's like that's.

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Speaker 4: When you know your you gotta get professional with rolling backwoods.

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Speaker 2: I say, was rolling in at the easiest thing in

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Speaker 2: the world. You gotta you gotta really be enrolled with

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Speaker 2: it because the edges off.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, you gotta win it.

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Speaker 2: And you know that's the whole point. I've been working

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Speaker 2: real closely.

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Speaker 1: With the people over there back woods. I guess something

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Speaker 1: coming down exclusively for the streets. I mean, I might

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Speaker 1: just sell a pack of corners, all them corners that

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Speaker 1: get cut off. I might just put all them together

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Speaker 1: and make one flat leaf. You know, if you're just

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Speaker 1: kicking some ideas around right now, the kids, I wanted

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Speaker 1: to ask you this hip hop just had his fiftieth birthday, man,

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Speaker 1: and they were honoring some of the legends up there,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of names got left off. Did you

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Speaker 1: see anybody up there or did you see anybody who

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Speaker 1: got left off that you felt might have should have

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Speaker 1: got honored on the fiftieth anniversary because everybody got.

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Speaker 2: Their old Jesus people get left off. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: people got shot tracked.

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Speaker 5: With the whole fifty year, you know, the whole thing,

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Speaker 5: and and let some greats that shouldn't have slipped through

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Speaker 5: the cracks. They didn't get the acknowledgement that they were

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Speaker 5: supposed to get.

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Speaker 2: I think that's always gonna.

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Speaker 5: Happen though, especially in our our genre, our people, we

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Speaker 5: you know, we don't tend to big up people to.

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Speaker 2: To they no longer heir or too.

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Speaker 5: Something happens, you know what I mean for the most part,

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Speaker 5: and the other genres of music, they would to make

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Speaker 5: sure they covered everybody.

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Speaker 3: But who's somebody that you would have wanted to honor,

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Speaker 3: like if you had, like, I just want to get

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Speaker 3: his person.

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Speaker 2: They flowers, Now.

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Speaker 5: So many I could name, but you know, dudes like

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Speaker 5: red Men, Scarface, Uh, A lot could go on. I

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Speaker 5: could stay in for hours and name dudes that I

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Speaker 5: feel are underappreciated.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, hip hop is an individual sport. Music is.

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Speaker 2: It's like something that.

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Speaker 5: Whoever you like, that's that's your personal You listen to

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Speaker 5: it in your personal space and you you feel a

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Speaker 5: way about them that nobody can feel about it. So

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Speaker 5: that's the beauty, beautiful thing of music, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. You get in the zone on the mood,

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Speaker 5: you could throw on whoever the fuck you want to

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Speaker 5: listen to it and enjoy it for yourself.

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Speaker 1: But then you got to be a part of so

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Speaker 1: many great moments and hip hop for the last you

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Speaker 1: shit most of it. You've been there for a lot

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Speaker 1: of it, man, a lot of great moments. So what

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Speaker 1: are some of those moments that stand out to you

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Speaker 1: as personal favorites?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 5: Of course, Uh, you know, signing with Bad Boy, being

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Speaker 5: able to meet Big, going on tour with Damn Max,

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Speaker 5: just learning the game, just being a fly on the

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Speaker 5: wall in certain studio sessions, being able to be on

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Speaker 5: the Life After Death double CD that didn't have that

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Speaker 5: many features, so you know, being young in the game

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Speaker 5: and being honored to be on there, it was a

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Speaker 5: big accomplishment. That we felt being on Holme's album back

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Speaker 5: in the you know, early album during the Reservoir Dog song.

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Speaker 1: Exactly, Like that's what I'm saying. These are these are

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Speaker 1: moments that are jaigantick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, those those just like priceless social media.

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Speaker 5: Those are things that you just have to keep up

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Speaker 5: here because it was no no phones, no Johnny Newtonaz's

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And then you got to be a part of one

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Speaker 1: of the most legendary groups in hip hop.

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Speaker 2: Come on, brothers, you know that Lax for Life.

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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, you know, hip hop has transitioned

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Speaker 3: so much over the last fifty years. What's something you know,

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Speaker 3: how bigge say, like, we never thought they'd take it

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Speaker 3: this far. What's something that you didn't see coming that

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Speaker 3: you were like shot that happened, Maybe a trend or

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Speaker 3: something switching up in a game where you like, dang,

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Speaker 3: I ain't expect this from hip hop.

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Speaker 2: It could be good or bad.

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Speaker 5: I mean just how just how they implement hip hop

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Speaker 5: and everything that they try to sell or that they

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Speaker 5: trying to market. They're trying to market or promote it

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Speaker 5: started from that's just a bunch of noise and a

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Speaker 5: bunch of thugs and a bunch of hooplah. They need

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Speaker 5: that same noise in hooplah.

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Speaker 2: That to move the world.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean, No matter that the

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Speaker 5: cell phones, automobiles, sniggers, you know, fast food they call us,

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Speaker 5: they call us for everything.

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Speaker 1: Yeah man that whatever Jadakin's nigga. The walls would never

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Speaker 1: lift up and the floor would never do it. Three six, dinny,

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Speaker 1: Who else is gonna have enough that they got to

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Speaker 1: use the scale that they weigh the wells.

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Speaker 4: And even entrepreneurship like you into kiss cafe. You got

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Speaker 4: that going on like a lot of You see a

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Speaker 4: lot of artists now going to black businesses and make

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Speaker 4: sure they invest in their money differently.

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Speaker 2: Like the cars and closed.

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Speaker 1: Its cool.

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Speaker 4: I see a lot more artists graduating to entrepreneurship in

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Speaker 4: buying real estate.

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Speaker 2: Tell me about that and your question what you got

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Speaker 2: going on? You know, rappers is stepping stone.

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Speaker 5: Of course, when you're young, you're gonna blow some money

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Speaker 5: and have some fun and do some reckless things. But

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Speaker 5: as you if you're able to have a career and

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Speaker 5: you know, and being it for a minute, you want

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Speaker 5: to start graduating and doing some things own and some stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, we got I think five, we got six

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Speaker 5: six juice bars. Styles and his wife got the Pharmacy

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Speaker 5: for Life. You know, the supplement is doing well. And

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Speaker 5: then I got the Kiss Cafe coffee with my son

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Speaker 5: and my dad. You know, the hip hop industry could

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Speaker 5: teach you a lot if you just keep your.

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Speaker 2: Head up, eyes and there is open about ownership.

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Speaker 5: You go through so much stuff with clearances and things

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Speaker 5: like that, with the label that you should get to

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Speaker 5: a point in your life where you want to own everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that you that your name is on, or that

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Speaker 5: You want to try to be there so on or

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Speaker 5: own a big percentage of it or.

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Speaker 2: On the whole thing said.

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Speaker 3: Hip hop is like y'all a lot of artists first

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Speaker 3: introduction to entrepreneurship in real business. Yeah, so it teaches

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Speaker 3: you a lot. I like to the trends that I'm

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Speaker 3: seeing of, like artists going taking more control of their

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Speaker 3: health and being more on it, like you said the

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Speaker 3: juice bar, because you know, hip hop at one point

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Speaker 3: it was all about drugs.

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Speaker 2: How much? Yeah, and now that the.

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Speaker 5: Artist everybody talking about getting to the back. But if

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Speaker 5: you ain't, if you ain't healthy, boy's gonna leave it

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Speaker 5: back for somebody else to get to you.

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Speaker 2: What was that moment?

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Speaker 5: Where?

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Speaker 2: When was that moment that you realize or like in

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Speaker 2: your life?

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Speaker 5: For one, I got five kids, three of them is

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Speaker 5: very young, two nine year olds and one a year

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Speaker 5: the slide with them anyway, but uh, just traveling and

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Speaker 5: you know, being up late, not getting to sleep you need.

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Speaker 5: We were able to bump into the juice bawl and

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Speaker 5: learn about taking care of your body. We all have

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Speaker 5: mothers and fathers, grandma's aunties that got high blood pressure

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Speaker 5: or some of them type of ailments. We're just trying

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Speaker 5: to lower that as much as we could in our communities.

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, if we could.

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Speaker 5: Get one person at a time that it's hard to

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Speaker 5: just switch how you live or how you eat, but

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Speaker 5: if you could just be mindful of it, then you'll

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Speaker 5: start doing things a little differently.

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Speaker 1: And you talking about health right now, I'm a ball nigga.

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Speaker 1: I've been ball right. But you were bald for so

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Speaker 1: long and then you showed up with praise headline tax

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Speaker 1: so you was just that you wanted to be bald.

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Speaker 2: You wasn't even bald no more.

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Speaker 5: That was like in Wyo. That was like a that

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Speaker 5: was like the thing that you know. X was like

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Speaker 5: the king the icon of the town, and Paul Heads

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Speaker 5: was Onyx.

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Speaker 2: Ball Heads was right. And I always told stousand loose.

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Speaker 5: Down the line where y'all ships going, I'm growing my

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Speaker 5: head back. They used to be like, nah, whatever because

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Speaker 5: they had afros hard times. Now I'm like, Yo, it's

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Speaker 5: gonna be a time, y'all ship's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna let my head grow back.

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Speaker 1: Fellas, What if that's the key to preserving your headline.

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Speaker 2: You just gotta be bald in your younger twenties. Save

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Speaker 2: your ship reverse.

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Speaker 3: Reverse, you don't push your hairline. Man, what you talked

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Speaker 3: about being a dad, I wonder like what has been

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Speaker 3: a father shows you or taught you differently about yourself,

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Speaker 3: Like just from being a man in general.

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Speaker 5: It's as Jaden Kisses as my stage name.

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Speaker 2: It's my job. You know. It is a time when

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Speaker 2: you you gotta turn that ship off.

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Speaker 5: You around your mother or your family, dudes you grew

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Speaker 5: up with, you know, things of that nature. You go

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Speaker 5: back to just being Jason. I mean kisses for when

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Speaker 5: they when the lights and that when the cameras go

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Speaker 5: just regularly Jason. You know, guess whatever. And when you

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Speaker 2: Be all right.

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Speaker 5: You know, kids, kids are the honest, the most honest

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Speaker 5: your sneakers, they hate you, they hate that song.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it's with no balage.

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Speaker 5: So I try to use my kids, my younger ones

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Speaker 2: In there world.

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Speaker 1: Man, you've said so much cold shit on records, so

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Speaker 1: Do you ever put like pressure on yourself to be like, Nah,

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Speaker 1: I ain't say enough shit on this one.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean gets a time like when you feel like, see,

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Speaker 5: I love music so much.

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Speaker 2: I can just hear something and make me want to

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Speaker 5: And I think, as long as I feel like that,

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Speaker 5: I always want to create. But yeah, sometime I get

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Speaker 5: on my like you gotta go harder. Man, going in,

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Speaker 5: I thought, hold, I have something that I think is crazy,

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Speaker 5: Like now you gotta be crazy and.

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Speaker 1: That man, you've been saying some crazy shit. Only put

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Speaker 1: the coke in the tires if they miss it.

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Speaker 2: Mission fair sending niggas way up Michigan crazy.

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Speaker 1: My fus would carry it out. I go way back.

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Speaker 1: Knock yourself out. She used to model for a year

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Speaker 2: Why she stopped? You got you ain't saying enough because

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Speaker 2: if she take a.

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Speaker 1: Pens out in a half fall down to a caf

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Speaker 1: I don't know. If it was spending too much money

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Speaker 2: And she was, she was even and she had to stop.

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Speaker 1: She had to stop though, man, yeah, man, because you

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Speaker 2: And he would have got left.

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Speaker 1: But that's you know, bro, It's like you listen to

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Speaker 1: this ship and it's like you got so many real

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Even when you said, uh, the niggas had the Sprint

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Speaker 2: Every nigga can't relate to this ship.

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Speaker 5: Bro. You gotta try to say this ship that that

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Speaker 5: that touch home.

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Speaker 2: I mean everybody, everybody.

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Speaker 5: Can't afford the ferrari, or everybody might not know about

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Speaker 5: buying art or things of that. Yeah, but if you

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Speaker 5: some real life ship, everybody had to make a grill jeesus.

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Speaker 5: So ship like that, they gonna it's gonna hit. It's

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you dropping that type of ship in there

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Speaker 2: Like in the music you.

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Speaker 1: Still say gangster ship, but you still have you still

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Speaker 1: make sense, and you still give niggas like that direction

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Speaker 1: Gucci store and just.

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Speaker 2: Showing the loaf and the loafs man don't even if

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Speaker 2: he don't want the loaf for showing show introduce to

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Speaker 2: think about it, come back down there and grab next time.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to let you know that that type

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Speaker 1: the deepest, dirtiest parts of the South, Man, we appreciate

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Speaker 1: you always fucking with the jumping on them records and

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Speaker 1: shouting us out and showing us love man, because it's

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Speaker 1: a lot of niggas from a lot of different places

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Speaker 1: that didn't.

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Speaker 2: Fuck with what what we had.

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Speaker 1: Going on is for a Southern hip hop, but man,

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Speaker 1: you have features from rappers all over the game, from

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Speaker 2: And you respect it out Big Love eighty

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Speaker 1: Five South Show, Backwoods Lounges, none other, J Kiss J

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Speaker 1: Niggas you in here,