1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 2: And welcome back to George Norrie back with Elan Koner. 3 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 2: Work is be like the wind Or websites are linked 4 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,919 Speaker 2: up at Coast to cooastdam dot com. Ellen. Did the 5 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: horses tell you anything profound that just shocked you? 6 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 3: I would say through sharing their personal journeys, I've certainly 7 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:39,640 Speaker 3: learned a lot about Monty and his racing days and 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 3: what they did to him that was shocking. Romeos capture 9 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: helicopter chase. I watch these events frequently on my newsfeed, 10 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 3: but hearing it firsthand from him. His family got trampled. 11 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 3: I don't think he his sister survived. Particularly in the 12 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:09,039 Speaker 3: wild bands of horses. Family is everything. So it's a 13 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 3: lot like us, you know, when his sister dies or 14 00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: somebody gets disabled, hurt. He suffered. He suffered tremendously. He 15 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:23,959 Speaker 3: grieved when Monty died very very suddenly in twenty seventeen, 16 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 3: both Romeo Romeo and I went into deep shock. It 17 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: was a two day thing. He was clearly very sick 18 00:01:31,959 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 3: one day. The next day the vent had to put 19 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: him down, and putting a horse down is a big 20 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 3: event if you choose to be there, which I do, 21 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: I want to help them go, And we buried him 22 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 3: on our land. But both Romeo and I suffered a lot, 23 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 3: and our relationships got a little scuorely for a while 24 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 3: because we were both just in this vortex of shock. 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 3: And so, yeah, he's told me a lot of things 26 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,919 Speaker 3: for we've come a long way in the seven years 27 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 3: since then, but he too lost the best friend. 28 00:02:08,320 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: What other kinds of animals do you communicate with? 29 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 3: Dogs? Cats? I've communicated with a bearded dragon. Anything anybody 30 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 3: needs to understand about a pet or even sometimes wildlife, 31 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: I can do it. 32 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 2: Is there an animal or a breed that is particularly 33 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 2: more receptive than the other. 34 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: I would say no, but it is very dependent on 35 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 3: that particular animal. Some are skeptical, like humans, like can 36 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 3: you really hear me? Can you really understand? Some are 37 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 3: like before you even ask permission, they're rattling off exactly 38 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: what they want to tell you. And sometimes their owners 39 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 3: are afraid that the animal will tell you something about 40 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 3: the owner that maybe the owner or doesn't want you 41 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: to know. So it's kind of a web of everybody 42 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: being on the same page with willingness understanding and cooperation 43 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: that what if your dog tells you tells me, well, 44 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: I don't like my food, and I think you hold 45 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: my leash way too tight, and I don't like going 46 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 3: to the groomer because I can't be a real dog 47 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: and roll in the mud. Well, you got to tell 48 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 3: the owner that if they're hiring you to be honest 49 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 3: about their animal, you might as well find out what's 50 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: fucking your dog? 51 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: What? 52 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 1: What? 53 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: Anything profound they might have said to you. 54 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 3: You're still there, Yeah, I'm here, I can hear you. 55 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay, great? Anything profound that? 56 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 3: Who said? 57 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 2: The horses? 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,760 Speaker 3: Oh, they definitely talked to me a lot about their 59 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: their mothers, their young lives, how they were nurtured, how 60 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 3: they were abandoned, how they might have been betrayed along 61 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 3: the way. For me, that's profound because it does parallel 62 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 3: our human lives hugely. And when they share that, they're 63 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 3: coming forth and being authentic. 64 00:04:24,440 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 2: Can you communicate with other kinds of pets other than 65 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 2: you mentioned dogs and cats? What about like hamsters? 66 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:31,240 Speaker 3: Yes? 67 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:33,160 Speaker 2: I can't really. 68 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: Well, in my opinion, we're all sentean beings. We all 69 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: have feelings. We might be wearing a different body. It 70 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 3: might be a hamster body or a lizard body, but 71 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 3: we are basically all the same. We're spirit in a 72 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: physical form, but we're mostly spirit. From what I've learned 73 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: and what I've studied, that were the physics portion of 74 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:05,200 Speaker 3: who we are is very small compared to our spiritual 75 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: soul self. 76 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: Did the animals talk at all about death? 77 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 3: Yes, they do, they do, And I've had since we've 78 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: had in our lives so many different animals. We've had 79 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 3: those sudden deaths like Manty, we lost a cat very suddenly, 80 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:28,799 Speaker 3: we lost another dog very suddenly, or you have no warning. 81 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 3: So when I went back and talked to Monty, and 82 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 3: I've done this so many times, why did you have 83 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: to leave so suddenly? Why why did you not give 84 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 3: any warning. I wasn't prepared. I could have helped you. 85 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 3: And his answer consistently was, you would have made yourself 86 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 3: crazy trying to save my life. I couldn't be saved. 87 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 3: I was very sick, and that was a protection thing 88 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 3: in a way, because some leave us very quick, and 89 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:03,239 Speaker 3: then it's hard, it can be hard to recover. 90 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: I bet. 91 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 2: Can you teach people how to communicate with the animal side. 92 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 3: I've done it, George, But I choose now not to. 93 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 3: I've taught various things in my toolkit, but I put 94 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 3: so much time and effort in that I find it 95 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,359 Speaker 3: very draining. There are people out there that want to 96 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 3: teach and are good at it and have even online classes, 97 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: so I can do it, but I choose not to. 98 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,119 Speaker 2: Well, that's sure enough. Where do people get the book? 99 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 3: Be like the wind, Amazon dot com, Barnes Andnoble dot 100 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 3: com Collective Inc. I NK in England is my publisher. 101 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 3: You can go to their website. They have so many 102 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 3: spiritual books, so you can go to at least those 103 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 3: three places. 104 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 2: Now, when you talk about three equines channel spiritual light, 105 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: what does that mean? 106 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 3: Means that I was the vessel. I was receptor for 107 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 3: their words, their visions, their thoughts, to scribe it onto 108 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: paper and put it in written book form. So I 109 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 3: was kind of the emptiness that went through me. It 110 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 3: was almost like automatic writing where I would hear things, 111 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 3: or I would say to one of them, describe your 112 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 3: past life to me, and I would get a picture 113 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: and then I would say, oh, you serve the king. 114 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 3: And I would hear Spain or another country and I 115 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 3: would have to go look it up, like who was 116 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: the king in this period, And then I would go 117 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 3: back and say, is this what you did and is 118 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 3: this where you work? Yes, so I got confirmation. 119 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: Like that would be like to win. Though it's about 120 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 2: three equines, is also about the humankind, isn't it. 121 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 3: Well, it's through the lens of the horses. It's how 122 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 3: they perceive our human condition, which I perceive it that 123 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 3: way too, But they were validating what I see and 124 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: I perceive in the world and saying, you can't hide 125 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: this from us. You know, we're a big part of 126 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 3: the world too, and people value us. We're creatures of 127 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 3: great power, and they're also very various ended in their 128 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 3: own ways, so that if we don't believe it ourselves, 129 00:08:28,600 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 3: look what the animals are telling us. 130 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 2: How do the horses the equines know about the future. 131 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: Well, you know, those elephants that could feel the tsunamis coming, 132 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 3: it's kind of to me this terrible thing where they 133 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,200 Speaker 3: can feel the earth's vibrations, they can feel the fear 134 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: out there, they can feel I'm sure in countries where 135 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 3: they're living through war, they can really feel the suffering 136 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 3: countries that are destroying each other, that people are destroying 137 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:07,680 Speaker 3: each other, what are the animals doing? They're victims of 138 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 3: the bombs and the fighting and the killing, so that 139 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 3: they can see this is going in a bad direction. 140 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 2: What is more receptive a cat or a dog in 141 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: terms of communicating with a human? 142 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 3: I would say a dog. Cats kind of have their 143 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 3: own way of walking in the world, and for me 144 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 3: it might be I've had some really clear communications with 145 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 3: them with clients, pretty easy, I would say, But dogs 146 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 3: seem to be a little more transparent. It's not that 147 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 3: cats have been hidden an agenda, it's just perhaps they 148 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 3: might be a little more complicated. Some people believe cats 149 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,840 Speaker 3: are extremely spiritual book beings, and I kind of do too. 150 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: So are dogs. But dogs who are like dogs is 151 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 3: like be like a dog. They just have nothing to hide. 152 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 2: If you went to like the zoo, would you be bombarded? 153 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 3: Probably if I entered that channel, because the times I 154 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,319 Speaker 3: typically go to the zoo these days, I'm with my granddaughters. 155 00:10:16,960 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 3: I'm pumped into the wonderment of childhood, which is a 156 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: little different than plugging into what that tiger over there feeling. 157 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: But yes, that has happened to me. 158 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 2: Do the animals show you emotion? 159 00:10:31,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 3: Ellen, Yes they do. They do. We have a dog 160 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: and it's starting to rain here in the middle of 161 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 3: the night, and he's terrified of thunder and rain and 162 00:10:44,160 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 3: dark clouds, and he's huddled in a corner over here. 163 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 3: And if he was asking me to walk into the 164 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 3: garage and put him in my car, I would during 165 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 3: your next break, but I'm not going to because everything's quiet. 166 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 3: He has total meltdowns, and I have very very good 167 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: homeopathics and essential oils that tone it down. But he 168 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 3: came to us that way because he was abused, so 169 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 3: noise and banging just sets him. It's very typical and 170 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 3: a lot of dogs, especially as they get older, but 171 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 3: he shows it. He shows them right up front, and 172 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: he's not embarrassed. He just says, I'm really really scared 173 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,320 Speaker 3: right now. Help me out. 174 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: What would happen if you ran into in the ocean 175 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: a dolphin. What do you think it would tell you? 176 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: Oh? 177 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 3: Man, I just love dolphin energy, because what I've really 178 00:11:40,679 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 3: found out through some of my energy work is how 179 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 3: they also transform energy. And it's happened to us where 180 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,600 Speaker 3: and many people experience this. When you're on a boat 181 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: in the Gulf of Mexico or somewhere that they find 182 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 3: you and they start leaping and playing. There's so much 183 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 3: about the moment, and play and be with me now. 184 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: So yeah, they would be saying play, play, play, and 185 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 3: take care of the water. Please don't throw your plastic 186 00:12:11,480 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: in here while I'm swimming around, or ever. 187 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 2: Whales the same way. 188 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I think the whales are really starting 189 00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:23,800 Speaker 3: to reach out to the boaters. I read something the 190 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 3: other day where one was covered in barnacles and came 191 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 3: up to I don't know if it was a fishing 192 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 3: boat and let the guys scrape the barnacles off their 193 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: body because those are harmful, and the whale was asking 194 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: for help. It was such a beautiful story. 195 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,479 Speaker 2: Do the equines show you any type of intelligence? 196 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 3: Absolutely, they are so smart. And I now have two 197 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 3: donkeys that we rescue, the mother and from the wild 198 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 3: same program the Bureau of Land Management. She was a 199 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: wild burrow as they're called, from the California Arizona border, 200 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:10,320 Speaker 3: captured thankfully in a much gentler way. But she was 201 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 3: a baby, and she was also pregnant, so she had 202 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 3: her little girl who's now three here. And I'm learning 203 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 3: and learning and learning that perhaps they're smarter than horses. 204 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 3: So it's been fascinating to train the younger one, who 205 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 3: literally like a dog because we've handled her from the 206 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: minute her feet hit the ground, and she is just 207 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: bring it on and teach me and give me a job, 208 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: and she learns so fast, and so did the horses. 209 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: From. How far away do they communicate with you? Do 210 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: you have to be right next to them? 211 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 1: No? 212 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 3: No, I could be somewhere on a trip and if 213 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 3: I need to tune in, I can do it. Or 214 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 3: if I want to reach them and say, hey, guys, 215 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 3: you need to tell me anything, everything all right at home? Yes, 216 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: I can do that. 217 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 2: How do you communicate with them telepathy or verbally? 218 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: I might ask a question or I might close my 219 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: eyes and put a thought to them, and then I 220 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 3: receive an answer. It can be both. 221 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: What's the reaction Ellen when people know you're an animal communicator, Well, most. 222 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: Of the time they'll say, oh, by the way, can 223 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 3: you tell me what happened to my cat? Or you know, 224 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 3: my cousin, for example, said I rescued another cat, and 225 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 3: now my orange cat disappeared, and I told her what 226 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 3: I thought was going on, and eventually the new cat 227 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 3: got a new home and the original cat came back 228 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: because she lets her cats out. But yeah, they want 229 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: to ask a question. 230 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 2: Do de ceased animals communicate with you? 231 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 3: Yes, they do. 232 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 2: What do they say about the other side that. 233 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 3: There are no rules over there? They feel so much 234 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 3: better if they've been sick or something happened, they got 235 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 3: hit by a car and killed, they're free, and they 236 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 3: tell me it's beautiful over there. I've even kind of 237 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: seen that. It looks like those panoramic visions of the 238 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: Garden of Eden where everybody's just walking around together, man 239 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 3: and animals and green, and it just looks very pretty. 240 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: Is it scary? 241 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 3: Not at all? 242 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: Would it be scary on somebody who's not familiar with it. 243 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 3: I think people are scared. But what I feel over 244 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 3: my life experience for us is I personally am more 245 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 3: afraid to suffer than I am to die. In other words, 246 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: I'm not scared to leave my body and drop this form, 247 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 3: but I don't want to live in a really compromise 248 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: disease state or injury. I would not want that. 249 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast AM every weeknight at 250 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 251 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: dot com for more