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Speaker 1: sure you gotta it's important. From the Chris Westling podcast studio,

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Speaker 1: It's around the NFL. I'm Dan Hansas with Greg Rosithal

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Speaker 1: and Mark Sessler the Flagship Show. Did you notice that?

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Speaker 1: You notice? I just did there it's around the NFL

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Speaker 1: because I didn't want to double dip on the podcast

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Speaker 1: right as we discussed last week, and I'm now in

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Speaker 1: work shopping at how did that sound good? Well, you're

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Speaker 1: very natural. Yeah, you're a skilled broadcaster who you know

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Speaker 1: every couple of months, Um, we just see you taking

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Speaker 1: the next leap, and that was part of that process.

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Speaker 1: I think, all right, well, all right, well let me know. Actually,

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Speaker 1: don't tell me. I don't care. I'm gonna start saying

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Speaker 1: it that way. And if there's a real uprising amongst

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Speaker 1: the fans, I think it was an improve and we'll

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Speaker 1: send it back. Okay, the uprising with the fans, we can,

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Speaker 1: you know, let's move on to new things. At this point,

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Speaker 1: there's been a lot of that Week nine the NFL.

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Speaker 1: It it existed to remind us this Sunday again and

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Speaker 1: this is important that we don't know ship and that

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Speaker 1: and that's that's good. That's what makes our league so fun.

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Speaker 1: There were multiple outcomes today that kind of turned turned

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Speaker 1: NFC differently. We're gonna get into those games, Greg, I

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Speaker 1: mean you were. I'm sure you were stunned. I can't

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Speaker 1: the way our seating arrangement is in the news room now,

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Speaker 1: as at the old place where you stunned by some

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Speaker 1: of the outcomes today. No, I expected Teddy Bridgewater to

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Speaker 1: And that's what the team of th h L does

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Speaker 1: back now, if you're just kidding, it was. It was

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Speaker 1: shocking and the and my yeah, my morning games were delightful.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. Do you think von Miller, who, by the way,

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Speaker 1: that today? Even though he's like, I love Denver, Broncos

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Speaker 1: Dallas and go up thirties Zilch and shocked the football world.

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Speaker 1: They think he's like, Wow, we didn't need to. I

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Speaker 1: think I think that we would like to think he's annoyed.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, as people, you know, we've all been

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Speaker 1: away at times when this show occurs, me, you know,

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Speaker 1: you find out maybe that it is, it's like, I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I like that Dyna interesting yet what

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Speaker 1: don't think he's so much focused on that, But I

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Speaker 1: know I think there's another guy in Green Bay that

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Speaker 1: was that was just fine. Watching their offense looked like

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Speaker 1: it was. Yes, Aaron Rodgers showed his whole lass last

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Speaker 1: week and because of it, uh, he did not play

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Speaker 1: on Sunday, leaving Jordan's love. After controls that did not

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Speaker 1: go so well for the pack, Let's start Mahomes moving

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Speaker 1: It was yet another slog on offense for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: but when it mattered most, Patrick Mahomes and Tyreek Hill

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Speaker 1: showed they can still make some magic together. The QB

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Speaker 1: the Packers at Arrowhead, Greg green Bay's often struggled to

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Speaker 1: find its way with Jordan's love at quarterback. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, Kansas City has turned winning ugly into a necessity.

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Speaker 1: Let's face it, they they're winning ugly and in such

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Speaker 1: But you have to look at what Steve Spagnolo did

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Speaker 1: Kansas City's offense, and if you have Aaron Rodgers in

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Speaker 1: he wasn't and they're not. And that's something to keep

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Speaker 1: the next game, again, this is weird and we're getting

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Speaker 1: per play. That's where the Chiefs are halfway through this season.

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Speaker 1: They're five and four. There's time, but there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of trouble in Kansas City. Let's move on. The potential

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Speaker 1: not enough was made the crazed military woman climbing into

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Speaker 1: There's a lot coming on there. Well, it's like I'm

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Speaker 1: rewatching madmen right now when they had all the booze

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Speaker 1: with the cake. I think it's like from medieval times

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Speaker 1: like when when Yeah, so that's what they did, shook.

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Speaker 1: They got to rest their guys. That's gonna help them

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Speaker 1: in the long term. And they got the w and

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Speaker 1: they kind of killed the forty niners. Now who by

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Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, they're three and five. That's last place

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Speaker 1: in the West. Uh tied with Seattle their own forward home. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They kind of put a rival to bed potentially here. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They even got to lick the frosting off the knife afterwards.

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Speaker 1: It was an experience where they just they had a

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Speaker 1: great time. Everything's kind of going right for them, even

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Speaker 1: with these injuries not playing in their favor and and

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00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,400
Speaker 1: and it's it's encouraging again, like every time you think

441
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Speaker 1: about these games, you have to think about mash up

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Speaker 1: and it's well who they who they play, and and

443
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Speaker 1: at this point in the season typically there are still

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Speaker 1: a lot of question marks. But I just don't see

445
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Speaker 1: a lot of bright spots for these Fortnits going forward,

446
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Speaker 1: just the way they I know they've lost some guys,

447
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Speaker 1: but the injury excuse does not hold up this year

448
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Speaker 1: like it did last year, for example, the previous years

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Speaker 1: in the Jimmy Garoppolo era. The NFC is weird because

450
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Speaker 1: that seven seed is gonna be wide open for every

451
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Speaker 1: mediocre team to be going after for a while. So

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Speaker 1: forty Niners aren't giving up on their season because they've

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Speaker 1: got five losses. Everyone in the NFC has got four

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Speaker 1: or five losses, you know, looking for that spot. But

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Speaker 1: you are, you know, five games behind the Cardinals and that,

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Speaker 1: and you are in this lower region of the NFL,

457
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Speaker 1: and you are getting more criticism if you're Kyle Shanahan

458
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Speaker 1: than you ever have. I mean, he punted on the

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Speaker 1: fourth down from the Cardinals thirty nine yard line while

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Speaker 1: down three scores. It was. He also kicked the field

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Speaker 1: goal down seventeen inside the ten yard line late and

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Speaker 1: Kyle Shane has always been conservative when it comes the

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Speaker 1: decisions like that, surprisingly, But now you're gonna notice it

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Speaker 1: more because you know this is just a losing team.

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Speaker 1: What a night for Cult McCoy and your son, your

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Speaker 1: son namesake took out your wife's favorite team. That's, you know,

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Speaker 1: sort of a microcosm of our household on some level.

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Speaker 1: So there you go. If you guys have noticed so far,

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Speaker 1: the listeners shook and cessler in the great moods today,

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Speaker 1: Cult McCoy stepping up, and after this break you're gonna

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Speaker 1: really learn why these guys are floating. But I just

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Speaker 1: want to share something is with the audience here. You

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Speaker 1: can't have your cake and eat it too. As a

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Speaker 1: popular English idiomatic proverb or figure of speech, proverb literally

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Speaker 1: means you cannot simultaneously retain your cake and eat it.

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Speaker 1: Once the cake is eaten, it is gone. It could

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Speaker 1: be used to say that one cannot have two incompatible things,

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Speaker 1: or that one should not try to have more than

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Speaker 1: is reasonable. Well, guess what the cardinals got it all

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. We'll be right back at turns Gifts, chump

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Speaker 1: runch thirty five. There he goes forty fifty, there he

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Speaker 1: goes forty. He's running to the river twenty fifty ten

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Speaker 1: touchdown neck jump. Is he in the river yet? And

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Speaker 1: now he's in the river? Chin Donovan and Dug Deacon

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Speaker 1: with a called w K R K Baker Mayfield through

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Speaker 1: too touchdown passes, Denzel Ward had a ninety nine yard

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Speaker 1: pick six, and Nick Chubb that guy I used the

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Speaker 1: game with that long TD round. The Browns cap a

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Speaker 1: crazy week by beating up on the Bangles in since Mark.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the season ends well for the Browns,

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Speaker 1: if it ends with a deep playoff run, if it

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Speaker 1: ends with the playoffs at all, who knows. But I

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Speaker 1: know I know they're not gonna miss Odell beck No.

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Speaker 1: And I think Browns fans have to be extremely proud

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Speaker 1: with this performance because I thought the you know, after

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Speaker 1: what happened this week, about as messy a situation as

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Speaker 1: you could imagine um in Kevin Stefanski's era, because it's

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Speaker 1: been real smooth otherwise. He has been the same guy

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Speaker 1: throughout Kevin Stefanski. This was a huge game for him.

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Speaker 1: He's They've done an excellent job rebounding after tumultuous games,

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Speaker 1: and this was another example coming off of a rough

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Speaker 1: week where I thought the real stars of this team

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Speaker 1: stepped up and Odell Beckon was never a real star

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Speaker 1: on this team. Nick Chubb, you mentioned it, but it

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Speaker 1: was also a defense that's been real up or down

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Speaker 1: this season. The best day they've had by the secondary.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned denzil Ward, Troy Hill three sacks, the most

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Speaker 1: sacks by a defensive back in Brown's history in a game.

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Speaker 1: Greg Newsome is becoming a star in that secondary. They

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Speaker 1: did a great job on Jamaar Chase, whether they were

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Speaker 1: doubling him or having to take him out in one

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Speaker 1: on one coverage at times, and they made life really

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Speaker 1: difficult for Joe Burrow and the Bengals. And on offense,

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Speaker 1: at one point they had thirty plays in thirty four

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Speaker 1: yards in the fourth quarter. It wasn't a tip go

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Speaker 1: Brown's game where maybe you have long drives where you're

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Speaker 1: just working on, you know, getting the clock down in

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. This was a big play offense today.

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Speaker 1: Along with the Denzel Ward nine yard pick six, they

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Speaker 1: had a sixty yard touchdown. Donovan people Jones had two

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Speaker 1: big catches and I thought the Baker stepped up, you know,

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Speaker 1: and did what he needed to do, and after the game,

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Speaker 1: you know, he he refused to say anything negative about Odell.

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Speaker 1: He refused to say, yeah, he's he said, I'm we're

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Speaker 1: moving on. He they haven't spoken since, but he is

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Speaker 1: moving on. And he also had this to say about

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Speaker 1: the Brown's effort. We'll take wins anyway we can get him.

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Speaker 1: I came here to win. I have said it over

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Speaker 1: and over again. That's why I was brought here to

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Speaker 1: change the culture. To help change the culture. Um, and

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Speaker 1: continue to contribute, you know, towards that winning attitude. And

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Speaker 1: you know, our guys are brought in, they focused up

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Speaker 1: and did their job, and um, that needs to be

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Speaker 1: a week to week thing. I thought this is one

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Speaker 1: of the biggest games in Baker's career because things have

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Speaker 1: a chance, had a chance of snowball after the O'Dell fiasco,

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Speaker 1: and by delivering a big performance by the whole offense

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Speaker 1: thriving it kind of at least for one week, puts

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Speaker 1: that to bed and makes people think, Okay, maybe the Browns.

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Speaker 1: That was the whole thing about the Odell situation and

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Speaker 1: never felt like a sinking ship. This is a talented

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Speaker 1: team with a lot of upside and this game was

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Speaker 1: a nice reminder. Yeah, you know you could have said

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Speaker 1: this is Barria burning down to the foundation again, as

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Speaker 1: it has so many times in the history of the

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Speaker 1: Brown since they returned to the NFL, because it felt

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Speaker 1: like that during the week. But it's a credit not

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Speaker 1: only to Kevin Stefanski but also to Andrew Berry for

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Speaker 1: acting firmly uh in this whole situation and trying to

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Speaker 1: keep the organization on a charted course forward and then

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Speaker 1: delivering on Sunday. And what it really was was offensively.

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Speaker 1: This is the Brown's offense, not quite at its peak,

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Speaker 1: but in its purest form, which is executing the offense

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Speaker 1: according to the way it's designed. Baker going through his progressions,

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Speaker 1: targeting and throwing to the open man accurately for most

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Speaker 1: of the game, missed a couple passes, but operating within

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Speaker 1: the offense instead of trying to feed the ball to

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Speaker 1: one disc or disgruntled receiver in O'Dell Beckham Jr. I

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Speaker 1: look at their stats, and I think Jervis Landry had

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Speaker 1: the most catches, and I didn't even really notice that

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Speaker 1: he was out there because he didn't put up much statistically.

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Speaker 1: But then if you look at the entire receiving corps,

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Speaker 1: nobody really did other than Donovan People's Jones long touchdown pass,

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Speaker 1: and that's by design. That's when the Browns are at

565
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: their strongest offensively, is when they're balanced. They don't feed

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Speaker 1: one guy, they don't rely on one guy, and then

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Speaker 1: they give it to Nick Chubb to hammer at home.

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Speaker 1: He ends up with over a hundred thirty yards seventy

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Speaker 1: of that on one long touchdown run. That kind of

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Speaker 1: was the nail in the coffin of this game. It

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Speaker 1: was the complete performance, their best performance this year, without

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Speaker 1: a doubt, and just a stunning response to the week

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Speaker 1: that was because I can tell you being in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: this feeling was this is this is a disaster. We're

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Speaker 1: coming toward a disaster. If they don't win, the wheels

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00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: are going to completely fall off. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: almost like a funeral because of the departure of Odell

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Speaker 1: in the division that it created among the fan base

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Speaker 1: and the people here. So for them to come out

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Speaker 1: and win and not only just win, but win in

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Speaker 1: dominant fashion, Uh, it says a lot about the organization

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Speaker 1: who they once were and who they're still trying to become.

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Speaker 1: Right and when in Cincinnati, where they thought they were

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Speaker 1: going to be the fun rising like two thousand twenty

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Speaker 1: Browns type team, and they're sitting here looking at a

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Speaker 1: forty one to sixteen loss, and they're thinking to what

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Speaker 1: can we do to get Jamar Chase unlocked. Jamar Chase

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Speaker 1: and the targets thrown to him, to me, have been

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Speaker 1: one of the big reasons why they've lost these last

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Speaker 1: two games. They talked after the Jets game about, you know,

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Speaker 1: the way the Jets played them, Uh, you know, Jamar

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Speaker 1: Chase last week really created a lot of problems. They

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Speaker 1: basically sold out to stop Jamar Chase going deep. They've

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Speaker 1: thrown it to him twenty two times in the last

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Speaker 1: two games for six for sixty four years and that

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Speaker 1: can't be right. But not for forty nine yeards this

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Speaker 1: game in like thirty before. It's been extremely efficient, and

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Speaker 1: they haven't had the other guys step up enough in

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Speaker 1: the defense, which felt like it was like a the

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Speaker 1: getting by on grit and hustle and energy and cohesion

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Speaker 1: for the first six seven weeks of this season hasn't

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Speaker 1: really come to I think teams are like there's much

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Speaker 1: more attention being put on Chase, obviously, and that was

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Speaker 1: the case today. Early in Cleveland secondary, which has been

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Speaker 1: you know, quietly very bang up all season long, had

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys back today, and you kind of

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00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: saw what we talked about all off season because John

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Speaker 1: Johnson made big plays like this is the defense that

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Speaker 1: you thought you were getting. With seven minutes to go

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Speaker 1: last Sunday, the Bengals were five and two and looking

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Speaker 1: like they were gonna stay on top of the A

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Speaker 1: f C. Since the last seven minutes of last Sunday

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Speaker 1: and then four quarters today they've been outscored fifty five

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Speaker 1: to sixteen. So something's going wrong. And the Zach Taylor

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Speaker 1: celebration and the captain Lou Albano celebration, well, they gotta

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Speaker 1: get something fixed real quick or this season is going

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Speaker 1: to go down the drain. Let's move on to the

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Speaker 1: meadow ends. He takes the snap, he's back, he's looking

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Speaker 1: left the whole way. He throws it left, but it's

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Speaker 1: intercepted by the Giants for Kitty down the right side,

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Speaker 1: like ten five touchdown Giants. Savory McKinny, we're this first

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Speaker 1: career pick six Psachia bump more like Massachia banged Papa

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Speaker 1: with a call for W A F A N Xavier Mcinian,

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Speaker 1: you know, because he was banged. No, I hear you.

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Speaker 1: It makes seed. You guys are an incredible audience. Proceeded,

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Speaker 1: returned an interception one yards for a touchdown early in

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Speaker 1: the second half, and picked off another errand throw by

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr late as the Giants picked up over the

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Speaker 1: Raiders SHOOKI. The Giants put together another strong defensive effort

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Speaker 1: and this time they're rewarded with a win. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is probably the third straight game, and even though

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Speaker 1: they lost the Chiefs the prior week that that they

633
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Speaker 1: really played well defensively. This time though, they came through

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Speaker 1: in the clutch. You know, whether it was the Xavier

635
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Speaker 1: McKinney pick six, the Zavier McKinney pick late on a

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Speaker 1: terrible path, both of them were terrible passes by Derek Carr,

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Speaker 1: or just getting after Derek Carr. Uh, you know, capped

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Speaker 1: off with a strip sack to basically end the game.

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Speaker 1: I think it was Quincy Roache was was the person

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Speaker 1: who who recorded the sack. There to really just put

641
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: a capper on a quiet performance for them. They didn't

642
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: really need to do that much offensively. They're still kind

643
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: of the same Giants offensively, but because the defense kept

644
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: them in the game, and they converted their own field

645
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: goal opportunities and Daniel Carlson missed a field goal, and

646
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 1: most importantly, they stood tall in the red zone. The

647
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: Raiders were one for six in red zone opportunities and

648
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: one for two in goal to go situations. Today the

649
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: Raiders did not convert. You could say, hey, what's wrong

650
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: with the Raiders and everything else, but you also got

651
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: to give a ton of credit to the Giants and

652
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: the wather. They're playing defense, that front starting to get

653
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: after quarterbacks, the back end not playing too shabby either,

654
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: and they come away with a win that. I mean,

655
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:27,880
Speaker 1: MetLife was rocking today. They were. I think they were

656
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 1: stunned by the end. I can't believe we actually pulled

657
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: this off. They were waiting for everything to come crashing

658
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 1: down and it didn't. And it's a good one for

659
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: Joe Judge's bunch. That's after like a couple of games

660
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: at MetLife where you could audibly hear the crowd um,

661
00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: they're they're hideous displeasure with this Giants team. I feel like,

662
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: you know, going back to even last season, though one

663
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: of the better coordinator hires has been Patrick Graham. He's

664
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: done a nice job and like he like this Giants defense.

665
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: Lasher I think was ninth and points allowed. They've been

666
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: up and down this year to sud degree, but this

667
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: was more of a signature win the way that you

668
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: wanted Giants win to be on defense. This is the

669
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 1: first game. Go ahead, now, go ahead. I was just

670
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 1: gonna say, this is the first game for Vegas since

671
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: the Henry Rugg's tragedy where a woman's life was taken

672
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: in a car crash in Vegas, and the Raiders perhaps, um,

673
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: you know, coming off that and in tune with the

674
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: struggles to score points today, it was reported by Mike

675
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: Garifolo that de Sean Jackson is expected to sign with

676
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: the team. Uh, he'll receive more than the veteran minimum

677
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 1: in his contracts. So they make a move to try

678
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: to replace Rugs on the roster and add a little

679
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: juice to that offense. Yeah, it's gonna help them a

680
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: lot because they flat out and missed that element today.

681
00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they just did they They couldn't push the

682
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,520
Speaker 1: ball down the field. I know car finishes close to

683
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 1: three yards passing, but it was it was quite an

684
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 1: exercise to get there and um, and and it certainly

685
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 1: showed when they needed it late. They just didn't have

686
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: the same firepower that they've had in previous weeks. It

687
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 1: kind of reminded me of that game they played against

688
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: the Bears where you just wondered, where are the Raiders?

689
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,760
Speaker 1: Did they forget to bring their ability to play football

690
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,200
Speaker 1: at home? This is kind of happened to them again today.

691
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: So we'll see how quickly d Jax fits into the

692
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,480
Speaker 1: offense and everything else. But the fact that you have

693
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 1: a threat to take the top off, even at his

694
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: age um should help them at least offensively more than

695
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: they were today. And that and and you know, Josh

696
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 1: Jacobs had a decent day statistically, but they just lacked

697
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: a presence with the ball and above all, they lack

698
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 1: the ability to execute when it mattered. Right. If cart

699
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 1: turns over the ball three times, are gonna lose. They

700
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 1: outgained it by a hundred and fifty yards. You know,

701
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones gets a hundred and ten yards passing, and

702
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, another lost fumble to the ledger and they

703
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: manage to get a win. It almost feels like karma

704
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: coming back for the Giants. Because I feel like they've

705
00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:37,520
Speaker 1: played well and a lot of losses and so you

706
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: get an ugly win and you know, spoiler alert, you know,

707
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: I know we haven't gotten to the entire a f

708
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: C West, but they're they're all flawed. They all have

709
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: five wins. Like it's I don't think any of them

710
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: should be that disappointed where they are in the season

711
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: right now. In terms of the Raiders being five and three,

712
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 1: it's like, these are all teams that are gonna be competitive,

713
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: They're going to get you know, none of them are

714
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: going to dominate the a f C. And it's totally

715
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: a wide open after everything that's happened with the Raiders

716
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: and just half a season from Grooden and now rugs um.

717
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: You know, they're a hard team to get a beat on.

718
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,680
Speaker 1: What what can you rule out them again tumbling out

719
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: of this race? You can't and you see him sticking around,

720
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,359
Speaker 1: Yes you can, because Derek Carr has been so much

721
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: better this year. But one thing they will always be

722
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: sure of when you're trying to study what's going on

723
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, they will stink. After the bye week.

724
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: They are now three and sixteen after a week off

725
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: over the last nineteen years. I don't know what. That

726
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. The coaches of the roster is the Raiders

727
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 1: stink after about and they have the Chiefs and Bengals

728
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: up next. Two other teams were trying to figure out

729
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: so good Let's say two weeks ago, we would have

730
00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 1: said that's a brutal slag ahead. Uh. Now we say, okay,

731
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: those are winnable games. Shook. We win because of you,

732
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: good Man. Thank you for joining us, you hero, and

733
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: enjoy the Knikes. I know. Colt McCoy stepping up the Brownies,

734
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: delivering a big performance. It's gonna be a party in

735
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: the gym tonight. Shoot. Colt McCoy has earned Cleveland's respect

736
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: forever for trying to get out that Thursday night game

737
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: in which James Harrison knocked his lights out and then

738
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: he entered the game. Uh, and he almost got hit

739
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: like that again. Today I was sitting there going, God,

740
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: he almost get his lights nocked out again. And the

741
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: other thing is Dan as crazy as that three and

742
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: sixteen stead in the last nineteen years. Is I got

743
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: one stat that's worse of you off the top night

744
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 1: the Brown's home opener record. It's terrible. One it's such

745
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: a Browns fan thing. Why you bringing that up today? Right?

746
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: Just enjoyed a good week. One nugget though, next week

747
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: one you should bring that. It's like Chris Rose, you

748
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,280
Speaker 1: know who works here. We see him comes by our desk,

749
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 1: you know, on the way to hosting a show. He's

750
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: a fellow Browns fan with Mark. He's like, hey, what

751
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: do you think about the game? Mark? He was like, oh,

752
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 1: you wanted to commisser, you know, talk to him like yeah, yeah,

753
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: brown and narrative like I don't think I don't think

754
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: that's not again, that's the enthusiasm at all. In fact,

755
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 1: he threw a big wet blanket on it shook. You

756
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: know that this is just simply a narrative. I was.

757
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: I was, actually I was engaged. I was engaged in

758
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: something else. You don't you wanted to dance around the office.

759
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 1: I was engaged in something else. And I told him,

760
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I trust this team.

761
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: But it's sort of what Dan just said. This was

762
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 1: a signature win for Kevin Stefanski is what I said

763
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 1: to him, And I know said the team isn't very

764
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: good awesome, and then Chris Rose's lights got no on

765
00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: top of it. Chris Rose and I, like, you know,

766
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: will d M about the Browns here and there, so

767
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: I know that we'll pick up the conversation. I was

768
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: engaged in something else that I needed to handle. Time

769
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 1: sessitive nature. He learned his lesson one le one rule

770
00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 1: about Tessler in excitement. If you want to get excitement

771
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: from Cessler in the office, he's got to come to you.

772
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: Thank you, you understand me, you understand my nature. Let's

773
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 1: move on. He's got to come to you. That's an

774
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: interesting team. That's an excellent take, is what it is.

775
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,800
Speaker 1: And I'm not surprised. Don't go to mark to the

776
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 1: left bridge water to come to deep drops set left side.

777
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 1: Next detention different, what's gon touchdown thirty four yards? Whoa

778
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: Dave Logan ko a with it called Teddy Bridgewater through

779
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Had a QB sneak score as well.

780
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 1: The Broncos. All right, this is again football is tough

781
00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,560
Speaker 1: to figure out. Broncos shut down the NFL's top offense,

782
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: atin ending the Cowboys six game winning streak, and forget

783
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 1: that final score that was garbage time. Uh theatrics lipstick

784
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: on the old hog because this game was thirty zip

785
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 1: in the second half. Greg, the NFL is a way

786
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 1: of humbling us all when we think we know too much.

787
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: Here was an example. Well, unless what you know is

788
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: that Teddy Bridgewater is gonna give it his all, you know,

789
00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: in a tough spot that I know now I am

790
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: back in. I haven't been more surprised by a result

791
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:57,320
Speaker 1: this season. I'm totally joking on defense until the next game. Right, defensively, especially,

792
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: I've been on the quarter. I think their offense has

793
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: been efficient and enough, and that Teddy has been good enough.

794
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: He's been about as good as they could have hoped for. Right,

795
00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: that's right, and I and I think their offense has

796
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,439
Speaker 1: been fine. I expected it to be a top five

797
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 1: defense when they've been a bottom five or seven defense

798
00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 1: all year. I've been totally confused. And yet for the

799
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: first I think six drives of this game, you know,

800
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had four first downs at one point, it

801
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 1: was three nineties something in yardage to one twenty Like

802
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: this was just a total um domination, mostly by the

803
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: Broncos offense. On In terms of the Cowboys offensively, it

804
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 1: was a lot of mistakes. It was some drops on

805
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 1: third downs, Uh, it was some curious play calling going

806
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: for on fourth down but then throwing the ball. One

807
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 1: time it got tipped. One time it was a strange

808
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: play call and Dak just missed uh an open seedee

809
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 1: lamb down the field. Another time it was a drop.

810
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 1: So it's like everything that could go wrong for the

811
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys did go wrong. I know they didn't have their

812
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 1: left tackle, Tyron Smith, but I just didn't think that

813
00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 1: the Broncos had this kind of game in him. Yeah,

814
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: there was no evidence of that. Right, they have Jerry

815
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: Judy back and he looked to me better than he

816
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: did a week ago in his first game back from injury,

817
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: and he makes a big difference. Teddy was absolutely on

818
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: point and made some great throats. But they were missing

819
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people. Do they were missing Garret Bowls

820
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: or left tackle? They were missing no a fan like

821
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: they not even healthy, right, they were missing their best

822
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: pass rusher, Malik Reid, not just von Miller. And yet

823
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: they came out here and uh they had Vick Fongio

824
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: feeling like ultra confident. Uh, Ricky they asked it was

825
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: just a classic Vic Bongio press conference answer after the

826
00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:43,560
Speaker 1: game that I really, really enjoyed your Your corners had

827
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,000
Speaker 1: to play some one on one coverage. Would you think

828
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: of how they matched up with their receivers for fifty

829
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: six minutes? It was a goose egg. You can answer

830
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:55,279
Speaker 1: that question. Nah, we gotta keep in a big chair.

831
00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: We can't lose him. We can't lose him. Like some

832
00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,520
Speaker 1: Rono fan might disagree with you. But he was on

833
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 1: the sideline celebrating like he was loving this. His guys,

834
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: Kyle Fuller, his cornerback we brought in, had a great game.

835
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: He gave him a game ball, like all the all

836
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 1: the secondary players. I really think the game plan worked well.

837
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: And when they suggested that to Dak Prescott that they

838
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:18,439
Speaker 1: kind of confused Dallas. He was like, I hope someone

839
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 1: runs that game plan every week against us. He was, Hey,

840
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: you look at the Cowboys on offense. At least it's

841
00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: all about you know, those big names, And I look

842
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: at the big names dac nineteen of thirty nine at

843
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 1: one point eight of twenty four for one oh two,

844
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: And that was mid fourth quarter. These two garbage time

845
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:38,400
Speaker 1: things changed yards in the first half. Yeah, even with

846
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: the garbage time touchdowns to Malik Turner, by the way,

847
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: so they didn't even help anybody's fantasy team. He's still

848
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: average less than six yards per at tempt zeke. I

849
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,440
Speaker 1: guess Greg, you could tell me got game scripted out

850
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 1: of this ten for fifty one and then you look

851
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:55,200
Speaker 1: at Ceedee Lamb two for twenty three on nine targets,

852
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: Cooper too for thirty seven and five targets. Whatever Denver did,

853
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,840
Speaker 1: and this reminds me of a few weeks ago, uh,

854
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: when the Chargers got shut down. Um, and you thought

855
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 1: to yourself, is that give the rest of the league

856
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,400
Speaker 1: some tape to study? I mean every team in the

857
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: NFC studying this game tape and seeing if they could

858
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: do something to flummix the Cowboys the way they got

859
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: flummis tonight. Yeah. Except here's what I'm gonna do. Take

860
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 1: nothing out of it. Um. While I while I think

861
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: it's something that you could say, we've waited for this

862
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 1: from Denver with this is what we some of the

863
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 1: games we thought we'd get, there's no evidence to suggest

864
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 1: this is, you know, a team that found a way

865
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:33,399
Speaker 1: to unspool the Cowboys, and it's gonna happen week after week.

866
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 1: Dallas will bounce back, Denver will revert to what they

867
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 1: were before. Probably, But at the same time, I'm just

868
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: saying I'm protecting myself from getting swept up in like narrative.

869
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 1: Tornadoes all played better for two weeks, So I think

870
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: I think it's they played well against Washington that Fngio's

871
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: defense can at least settle down and be okay and

872
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: another five win a f C team. If Pittsburgh wins

873
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: on Monday Night, nine teams in the a f C,

874
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: we'll have five wins. I'm with I'm crazy, Mark, I'm

875
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: with you on the Broncos. It doesn't change much about

876
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: how I feel. I still see them as a five

877
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: team around there. The Cowboys. The only thing it does

878
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,760
Speaker 1: tell me is they are capable of a stinker two

879
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 1: And it's also coming off last Sunday night, Halloween Night,

880
00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,800
Speaker 1: when we all got super pumped up and excited. It's like, wow,

881
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,479
Speaker 1: even when Dak Prescott out, they are such a well

882
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 1: built team that you could plug in a Cooper Rush

883
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 1: and they're going to deliver a big performance on the road.

884
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,400
Speaker 1: So to lay a stinker like this thirties zip and

885
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter at home makes you think, Okay, the

886
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:34,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys maybe have not built a perfect machine. Maybe they're

887
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: capable of disappointing and coming up small at some point.

888
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,360
Speaker 1: It's just it's a little you know it is. I

889
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 1: would say, if you Denver had forty one minutes of

890
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,080
Speaker 1: time of possession, which I think it was like sixteen

891
00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,279
Speaker 1: years since they've had that. I mean, so if you,

892
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:49,839
Speaker 1: if the next team has the ball for forty one

893
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 1: minutes minutes against Dallas, your your fortunes will be nice.

894
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,919
Speaker 1: It was a bit of like a ball rolling down

895
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,399
Speaker 1: the hill type of game where Denver's offense took such

896
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,919
Speaker 1: control early, putting up seven seen points in the span

897
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: of three drives where Dallas was making mistakes that suddenly

898
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: it's like Dallas got totally out of their game plan.

899
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: And uh, I didn't know why. And Chris Rose, by

900
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: the way, did predict the javant to Williams will win

901
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Brand's Angry Runs Award, and I think he's right.

902
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: Watching a couple of I like no, because you know what,

903
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,239
Speaker 1: I don't know why every this is between the two

904
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 1: of you. Every episode you try to get me into

905
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,920
Speaker 1: hot water with some other media figure inside the building.

906
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: It was a good story and anyone and anyone here

907
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,360
Speaker 1: behind the scenes anyone armed with logic knows that it

908
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:36,959
Speaker 1: is nonsense. You're asking us if you ice out. Chris

909
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: rose right in front of us for us not it

910
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: was not an ice out. If anything, it's like we

911
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: talked now, We'll talk a couple of times other during

912
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: the week. It is he's a friend, and I'm I

913
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 1: am insulted by door as as more of just like

914
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: a disappointment for him. I was like, hey, bro, it

915
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: was like he it was like he went for a

916
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 1: big high five. He was also far from our cubes.

917
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into it. There's a whole

918
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: like you have. If you were there, I think you

919
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,200
Speaker 1: would think maybe marqu has a point here. I am

920
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: just that this was I think Vick loved this game

921
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: so much because they finally ran the ball hundred nine

922
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: yards on the ground. I think Williams and Melvin Gordon

923
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,880
Speaker 1: are very good tandem. There's a chance that this offense

924
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: could be decent down the stretch. That's all. Let's take

925
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: a break and then get into even more shocking outcome.

926
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: With seven seconds left, there's the smut. One step gets

927
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 1: it off. Nobody back for Buffalo Football is gonna hit

928
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: in bout and the clock's gonna run and the clock's

929
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna run out, and Jacksonville has the feet of the

930
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bells nine to six, the first actual home win

931
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: for Urban Meyer, actual homes win for Trevor Lawrence in

932
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 1: this stadium. Jacksonville wins it nine to six over perhaps

933
00:45:53,719 --> 00:46:00,560
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFL, the Buffalo bill that

934
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: calls for bongos, Frank Brangie w O k V. You know,

935
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: like calls for bongos. You know, that was what punt bits.

936
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: Josh Allen stepped up with a huge performance in the

937
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: Bills game today, but it wasn't the Josh Allen you expected.

938
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: The Jaguar star linebacker intercepted a pass, registered a sack,

939
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 1: recovered a fumble, and the Jacks get the big stop

940
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,200
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, a nine six upset

941
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 1: of the Bills. The class of the a f C

942
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,959
Speaker 1: or so we've been led to believe. Mark, what happened here,

943
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 1: It's it's more evidence of a totally bizarro Sunday. This

944
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 1: was one where I was I was covering this thinking

945
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: the Bills are it's somehow going to score thirty eight points.

946
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: It's they are just getting off to a very slow start,

947
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: They never warm up. This was a game where the

948
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars on offense had a killer scenario where Matthew Right,

949
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: their field goal kicker, decided not to be a field

950
00:47:08,719 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: goal kicker and missed two of them on one drive.

951
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence left the game with an ankle injury that

952
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: looked pretty grizzly, but then returned. Both teams had a

953
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty two yards at the half, and I

954
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:22,760
Speaker 1: think the Bills banged up on the offensive line. Spencer

955
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: Brown was out, John Fliciano was out, They lost Zack Moss.

956
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: And you know whether those were the reasons or whether

957
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's defense finally just shined. They put it on to

958
00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 1: the Josh Allen on the Buffalo side, and it was

959
00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:38,359
Speaker 1: Jacksonville's Josh Allen, who you know, it's not this game,

960
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: He's he had ten and a half sacks last year.

961
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: He is a start. Like you said, he totally showed

962
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: up and dominated this game. It was Dwayne Smoot as well.

963
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,640
Speaker 1: They they just put Buffalo into a place. We've seen

964
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: this when they played Pittsburgh and you thought, well it's

965
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers. This came out of left field and I

966
00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: cannot find a way to explain this other than the

967
00:47:56,680 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 1: fact that maybe the Jaguars are slightly growing. But I'm

968
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 1: not going to do that either because we just said

969
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: we're not doing that with the Broncos. But terrible in

970
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: the Seattle game, especially, like it makes no sense looking

971
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: at what happened today. You know, maybe these teams that

972
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,680
Speaker 1: we're putting up in the top three, four or five

973
00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: in the league, you just have to go. You have

974
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 1: to give a mulligan, Like what is a FC right now?

975
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: It is an LSD soup, Like we don't know. Nothing

976
00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: makes sense if Buffalo, the team that we have all

977
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 1: pumped up as the favorite in this conference, is capable

978
00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: of a game like this, and you know, closer inspection

979
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: and I know what d v o A says, and

980
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 1: I know what this says, and what that says. The

981
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: Bills are having a sneaky, a little bit of a

982
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: weird season in some ways, and they at five and three,

983
00:48:41,840 --> 00:48:43,359
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, they have a one game lead

984
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,080
Speaker 1: in their division. The Patriots are hot and they're right

985
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,400
Speaker 1: on their heels, and Greg again, same thing like with

986
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. If you can lose this game, you could

987
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:55,120
Speaker 1: get beat any week they're they're kind of their armor

988
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: takes a hit here, Oh, no doubt. I mean to

989
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,640
Speaker 1: lose to the Jaguars is crazy. I think what you

990
00:49:00,680 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 1: can say about the Bills that's more than just a

991
00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,400
Speaker 1: reaction to one game is that their offense is not

992
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: as explosive and not as effective as it was a

993
00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 1: year ago, not even close. It's it's a good offense,

994
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: it's you know, if like if you look at d

995
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: V O A or E P A or whatever, it's

996
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: an above average offense, but it's not a top ten offense.

997
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:23,680
Speaker 1: And that was what you expected. We've seen these stretches,

998
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: even in the good Josh Allen games like a week ago,

999
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: where they go cold for a while, where they go

1000
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:31,879
Speaker 1: cold for a half at a time. You expected them

1001
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 1: to come out of it today because they're going against

1002
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: the defense that's basically last in every ranking. But they didn't.

1003
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 1: And I'm I'm I'm flummixed. I'm sure you were, and

1004
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 1: I am I I I picked this because I thought

1005
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: it was gonna be an easy to watch blow out,

1006
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: and instead it's you know what was this? That tends

1007
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040
Speaker 1: to happen as well in our league? And I kind

1008
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: of joked about it entering this uh the week you

1009
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: know Stefan Diggs. Was there a more sure bet in

1010
00:49:57,800 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 1: fantasy circles entering this year, Go gra Stefan Diggs and

1011
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: never worried again about that position as long as he

1012
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,840
Speaker 1: stays healthy. And I think that's a big part of

1013
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:08,760
Speaker 1: what's missing with this offense. It's it's not that simple.

1014
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: But every time they needed a big play last year,

1015
00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:14,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen to Stefan Diggs, they were always there for

1016
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 1: each other. And it's just been And I know his

1017
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: numbers don't look terrible six for eighty five, but this

1018
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: is I think some of that came late. Mark you

1019
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: could maybe shine a light Oh yeah, you know completely.

1020
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: He's just not the same game changing presence in an offense.

1021
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: Maybe there's an injury involved, maybe it's defense is adjusting

1022
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: after an offseason and tape, but there's something off there well.

1023
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 1: And but Beasley gets eleven targets for thirty three yards

1024
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: in this game. I mean they have faced a lot

1025
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,920
Speaker 1: of what the Chiefs have faced in terms of the

1026
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 1: defensive scheme they're going against. I'm not I'm not like

1027
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: Brandon Staley here, like cracking down the XS and knows.

1028
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: But when you watch the Bills and you watch the Chiefs,

1029
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 1: you know, generally teams are playing the Bills kind of

1030
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 1: like the Chiefs, which is with the two safeties back

1031
00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: and daring them to run. And similarly to the chief

1032
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: Us there, the quarterback is now having a lot of

1033
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, short completions. Josh Allen's y p A is

1034
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,320
Speaker 1: going way down. He's throwing a lot of passes that

1035
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: aren't getting a lot of yards, and they're still refusing

1036
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,680
Speaker 1: to run. They ran nine times. Their running backs ran

1037
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 1: nine times today for twenty two yards. So that hasn't

1038
00:51:16,360 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 1: been able to get unlocked for them. And it's a

1039
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:21,640
Speaker 1: fairly similar problem that that that Buffalo and Kansas City.

1040
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:23,560
Speaker 1: They also had twelve penalties, and I know that we

1041
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 1: kind of like penalties don't get discussed much, but they

1042
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 1: were just simply not disciplined today. And you know, Sean

1043
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:31,959
Speaker 1: McDermott brought that up. He was like, we we didn't

1044
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 1: have our act together on that front, and you just

1045
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: they were killing themselves here and there. That said, jacksonvill

1046
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 1: was two for thirteen on third down. There's no excuses.

1047
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm waiting for Mark to finally start crowing

1048
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,960
Speaker 1: about the whole Josh Allen on Josh Allen thing. You know,

1049
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: Dan is very down on it, saying, I think something

1050
00:51:50,840 --> 00:51:53,239
Speaker 1: only uninteresting people are into this. Well, you know, I

1051
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: thought it took over the day a little bit because

1052
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:59,399
Speaker 1: it wasn't just ahead of the story. At least it's

1053
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: it is a story because I think the I think

1054
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:04,359
Speaker 1: he was the much better Josh Allen today, which very

1055
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: few people would have thought that would have been the case.

1056
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: He's like, but you gotta he's a wonderful place. You

1057
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: said that for this to come through that he needs

1058
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:15,240
Speaker 1: to make like a big time play like a sack

1059
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:19,600
Speaker 1: or yeah, you said, for it to really matter, Josh

1060
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: Allen actually has to say not only did he sack him,

1061
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 1: but he got an interception and he got a Fumbo recovery,

1062
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: kept toping him. Never had an interception or a fumbo

1063
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: recovery in his life, and he had both of them.

1064
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Josh Allen, Josh. They did ask him after the game,

1065
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: like do you some you know, the typical reporter question like, hey,

1066
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 1: when you like have grandkids, are you going to tell

1067
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,080
Speaker 1: them that like Josh Allen sacked Josh Allen and will

1068
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: that be confusing to a grandkid and like that. He's like,

1069
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: I honestly have not thought that far ahead on this,

1070
00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:48,800
Speaker 1: this story, which is a very fair spoke. I guess

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00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,280
Speaker 1: I I guess I lost. You were disinterested. You're allowed

1072
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: to be, but you know, coming a little hard for

1073
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: the people that were obsessing with the idea that there

1074
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: could be to Josh Allen's on two different teams in

1075
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: the NFL, I say, there's so much more in this world.

1076
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: Seek it out, seek out one. You tweeted at me, like,

1077
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: go go seek wonderment. It's like, by the way, I'm

1078
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,320
Speaker 1: pretty good at doing that in my own life, replied

1079
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: to you your tweet. You listen, Mark, you're the king

1080
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 1: of a subtweet. We all know, Josh Allen sacks. Josh Allen,

1081
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: don't care if you like it or not. Now, who

1082
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 1: was that directed to? That was not That was absolutely

1083
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: that was absolutely directed at you, because you did not

1084
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 1: at me at this And I'm gonna find this before

1085
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: we like, hold on, here so many tweets from you today,

1086
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 1: Please hold on. Got to cycle down through four thousand

1087
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:42,640
Speaker 1: Sam Donald tweets. But I'm doing my job. That's how

1088
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 1: it works. I will I will find it At some

1089
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: point I can't even think, oh, in like, I don't

1090
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: know how Mark could have how this could have gone

1091
00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 1: any better? Is that what I'm saying? This is literally

1092
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 1: the best game of Josh allen career that the Jaguars.

1093
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: That just right? I agree, I just I'm not sure

1094
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: what I mean, but I guess I lost Bark put

1095
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: the heat on him and he came through. It's like

1096
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: he showed up at the most perfect time to do

1097
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 1: what skirl and what you can't? What is it? What

1098
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: are you looking for? Can we move on? And when

1099
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 1: Mark finds that he can join us, Ryan's gonna hang

1100
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,479
Speaker 1: it down field for Patterson who makes the catch. Court

1101
00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: Daryl stays in bounds twenty knocked out of bounds at

1102
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,879
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard line. Holy smokes. Matt Ryan looped one

1103
00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,720
Speaker 1: down the forest sideline and Court Daryl Patterson comes through again.

1104
00:54:37,719 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: What did you find it? Yeah? What is it? You

1105
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about? A subtweet? First of all, like

1106
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 1: this is someone else that to just you know, just

1107
00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: a nice person. Andy s three eight six three trying

1108
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: to get you engaged and have some fun with you

1109
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: about the Josh Allen scenario and your response was in

1110
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,239
Speaker 1: all capitals like an old school headline boring facts for

1111
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: uninteresting people, which I was like, you're calling me on

1112
00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: interesting because I've already brought this up. Yes, well you

1113
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: are not. You were on the tweet. Actually that it's

1114
00:55:09,600 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: still it is a it is a version of a subtweet,

1115
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,440
Speaker 1: so I don't need to like say, hey, Dan hans Is,

1116
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 1: here's my thought on the matter. You know what I'm

1117
00:55:16,520 --> 00:55:20,880
Speaker 1: coming at. There are two job downs. You win. Matt

1118
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: Ryan hit corridorl Patterson for a sixty four yard game

1119
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: with just a minute to play, setting up the man

1120
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: the Machine. We saw him up close in London, Young

1121
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,759
Speaker 1: Wai Coup who drilled the twenty nine yard or as

1122
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:38,319
Speaker 1: time expires, The Falcons beat the Saints one hurt greg

1123
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,879
Speaker 1: in a game between two bitter rivals. The Falcons dealt

1124
00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 1: New Orleans a painful setback in the first game of

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00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 1: the post Jamis era. If you're looking for a game

1126
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 1: pass watch, I recommend this one. I know it took

1127
00:55:50,719 --> 00:55:53,120
Speaker 1: a little while to warm up, but it was good

1128
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,839
Speaker 1: dumb fourth quarter fund for the whole family. I mean,

1129
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: the Saints scored twenty four points in the fourth quarter.

1130
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 1: Uh to make this interesting. The Falcons, who have been

1131
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 1: outscored by forty five in the fourth quarter like almost

1132
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 1: collapsed again. But when it came down to it, Matt

1133
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: Ryan looks over to his right. He sees Cordurel Patterson.

1134
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: He sees him matched up on Paulson Adibo, a rookie corner,

1135
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,000
Speaker 1: and that's like basically a running back, and you would think, like, okay,

1136
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: that's that's not a bad matchup for the Saints. Patterson

1137
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,160
Speaker 1: kind of fakes inside a little gets outside and it

1138
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 1: and Ryan hit him with a perfect pass And it

1139
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 1: was almost a mirror play of the first drive of

1140
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: the game where Ryan also saw one on one coverage

1141
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,520
Speaker 1: of Patterson on the outside. That time he was on

1142
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,879
Speaker 1: a linebacker. Kwan Alexander hit him for a nice game

1143
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: that ended up setting up a field goal. And it's

1144
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: just like Cordurel Patterson's season. If he's not running, which

1145
00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: he didn't today very well, he's catching six for one.

1146
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: He really was the difference uh in that moment or

1147
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: the Falcons would have had one of their ghastliest losses

1148
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: since to three. I feel I feel good for them

1149
00:57:01,120 --> 00:57:03,880
Speaker 1: that they avoided that. Yeah, and Cordell, I mean this

1150
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,640
Speaker 1: is the guy that people have been trying to unlock

1151
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,359
Speaker 1: for years. So I think we've had some like good

1152
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: natured conversations about where we're at on Arthur Smith in

1153
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 1: the state of the offense of the Falcons this season.

1154
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:16,080
Speaker 1: I mean, the one thing that cannot be debated being

1155
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: able to turn Patterson into a legitimate weapon, whether it's

1156
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 1: the past. Because you said he's technically running back, I

1157
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 1: still don't really see him that way. His his size,

1158
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: he's he's like lining up as up outside. He doesn't

1159
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,160
Speaker 1: seem like he's out of place, and in that position,

1160
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: he's just he's just a versatile, great player, and it's

1161
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:34,520
Speaker 1: kind of amazing it's taken this long for someone to

1162
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 1: figure him out and use them in this way. It

1163
00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: also was a terrible defensive play by a debo who um,

1164
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 1: you know, our our friends at the Saints Twitter podcast

1165
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:44,920
Speaker 1: calls don't vax me bro. It was a it was

1166
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 1: a bad week for unvaccinated players because, uh, you know,

1167
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: a debo, where's the goat horns here? You know, ruining

1168
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:57,040
Speaker 1: what was a truly ridiculous comeback by Trevor Simeon and

1169
00:57:57,160 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 1: the Saints. The score was twenty four to six. With

1170
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,240
Speaker 1: ten minutes to go, and the Saints offense had not

1171
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: shown a ton of life in this game, and they

1172
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 1: go touchdown, touchdown, touchdown, with their defense also complying and

1173
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: getting the ball back quickly at a moment where you

1174
00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: kind of thought they were gonna go to Taysom Hill

1175
00:58:16,000 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 1: for good because they Trevor Simeon was struggling. Taysom Hill

1176
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: came in, made a couple of plays and then Trevor

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00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:24,360
Speaker 1: Simeon turned the ball over, but John Payton actually stuck

1178
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:26,880
Speaker 1: with Simeon and he led them all the way back.

1179
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: And if it wasn't for a Falcons injured player on

1180
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: a running play that ended up causing a time out,

1181
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if they would have had enough time

1182
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: because I don't know if they were going to use

1183
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 1: that time out, but it gave Matt Ryan enough time

1184
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 1: to get the game winner. I mean, the Falcons, you're

1185
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:43,920
Speaker 1: four and four, you're one game behind the Saints. You've

1186
00:58:43,960 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: just beaten them. Like I this team looked awful early

1187
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:49,600
Speaker 1: early in the year. I do believe in their offense.

1188
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:51,640
Speaker 1: I just think that it's not that's all gonna happen

1189
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: this season. But Matt Ryan has acclimated pretty well, and

1190
00:58:56,560 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: you know game, he really played well today. But this

1191
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: is Gregg stream because this is his NFC South, you know,

1192
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: the ravelry in the NFL. I did want the Saints win,

1193
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 1: but Mark can tell you I was enjoying his films

1194
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:11,200
Speaker 1: and even at the end of the game, it still

1195
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:15,080
Speaker 1: was fun. Uh Yeah, that's that's a big win for

1196
00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: the Falcons and and the Saints. I guess it's a

1197
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,080
Speaker 1: good if you're looking for Greg. The plus side is

1198
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: that Trevor Simmons has that in him to go stack

1199
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,760
Speaker 1: some points and get him back in the game, because

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00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: I don't think we've even seen any evidence of that

1201
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 1: until this point really. But otherwise, that's that's a that's

1202
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: a tough loss for the Saints at home. It's a

1203
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:36,160
Speaker 1: tough I mean, I just think it's hard to count

1204
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:39,919
Speaker 1: on your defense to just shut teams down week after week.

1205
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 1: And I know they've got a pretty good defense, but

1206
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: when when you said, like you believe in this Falcon's offense,

1207
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,560
Speaker 1: I do. If they're playing a team that doesn't rush

1208
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: the passer naturally that well, and I'd have to throw

1209
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,120
Speaker 1: the Saints in that category. Like ultimately they've been They're

1210
00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,720
Speaker 1: good defense, but they're not good winning one on one

1211
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 1: matchups up front. And so that gave Matt Ryan enough

1212
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: times that said I thought, you know, three days ago

1213
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: that we looked at the Panthers Falcons game and we

1214
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,280
Speaker 1: looked at the Saints defense and thought they're gonna have

1215
01:00:06,320 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: a field against Atlanta and it it just no, there

1216
01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:14,120
Speaker 1: is nothing that seems predictable. Well, their quarterback situation though

1217
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: the Saints, it's it's hard to they put up you

1218
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:19,360
Speaker 1: put I mean it's like they you know, they didn't

1219
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,840
Speaker 1: put up ten points saying that the idea that they

1220
01:00:21,880 --> 01:00:23,520
Speaker 1: were going to light up the Falcons, they need to

1221
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 1: prove that they can move the ball. I'm in more

1222
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:27,600
Speaker 1: of their defense shutting down the Falcons and that and

1223
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:30,600
Speaker 1: that did not happen. And it tells me that Arthur Smith,

1224
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:32,920
Speaker 1: you know that they hired him for this, and you're

1225
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 1: starting to see it tricky. It's a tricky spot for

1226
01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: the Saints here there five and three, And we'll get

1227
01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: into it more later in the week. But they have

1228
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,520
Speaker 1: two road games coming up next Tennessee Eagles, then home

1229
01:00:41,560 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: against Bills and Cowboys. So yeah, it's not gonna be

1230
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: an easy path I still like their chances in that

1231
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: UH conference to get a playoff spot, but it's gonna

1232
01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 1: be tough. And if you want to watch the game pass,

1233
01:00:52,560 --> 01:00:54,320
Speaker 1: I mean you could kind of skip the you know,

1234
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 1: the three zero first seven minutes. I think there was

1235
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: some fun. There was some fun plays in there too.

1236
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: All right, let us now move on and check in

1237
01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: on another NFC South team, this one at home. Welcome

1238
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: in the hooded one play fake to Hubbard, King bootleg

1239
01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 1: to the near side for Donald under pressure, tosses intercept

1240
01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: this j C. Jacksons goodbye to the forty to the fifty,

1241
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 1: down the middle of the field, of the forty to

1242
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: the thirty to the twenty. He is head sewed bound

1243
01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:31,720
Speaker 1: pick six touchdown Patriots Bob Sochi with the called W

1244
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 1: B z Zolak in there as well. That was the

1245
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: human gate raid you heard. Mac Jones overcame two early turnovers.

1246
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: He threw for a buck thirty nine and a touchdown.

1247
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: But it didn't have to be about mac Jones because J. C.

1248
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:48,640
Speaker 1: Jackson returned one of three Sam Donald interceptions for eighty

1249
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: eight yards and a score. Pats role over the Panthers.

1250
01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: It's four wins in five weeks. Uh. Five games for

1251
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Uh. What's star here with New England? Uh?

1252
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: And there's a lot to break down the other side,

1253
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: but we're seeing it again with the Patriots. This always

1254
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:09,640
Speaker 1: felt this why I locked up the Patriots, because it

1255
01:02:09,800 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: just felt like such a good spot for them, that

1256
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was gonna have this defense ready for Uh

1257
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. And that's exactly how it played out. Even

1258
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:23,400
Speaker 1: with Christian McCaffrey back, the Panther's offense is completely broken.

1259
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 1: You don't have any there's no semblance of a passing

1260
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: game anymore. And you remember last remember in September, when

1261
01:02:29,600 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: they were going up and down the field and d J.

1262
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: Moore was involved and Robby Anderson was making plays and

1263
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 1: it just seemed like this was gonna work. These guys

1264
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,320
Speaker 1: aren't even on the field. It feels like the only

1265
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: time you saw Robby Anderson in this game was screaming

1266
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 1: at Sam Donald after another interception. And Bill Belichick has

1267
01:02:48,280 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 1: Donald's number, and that's how this game got ugly. Donald

1268
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: did not let the Panthers be competitive here. It's been

1269
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,360
Speaker 1: too many games where he doesn't. And I know, I'm

1270
01:02:57,400 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: sure they did some things defensively, but you night. I

1271
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:04,400
Speaker 1: watched the interceptions and nothing confusing going on there. It's

1272
01:03:04,440 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: just man coverage. You know, he's skittish man coverage and

1273
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 1: kind of showing it before the snap and him making

1274
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: bad decisions in bad throws. Donald skittish in the pocket,

1275
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 1: He's indecisive and his confidence is low. And I understand,

1276
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 1: and you're gonna see it this week and there's gonna

1277
01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: be talking about it. And Robby Anderson said after the game,

1278
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:23,520
Speaker 1: this is a brotherhood, and I was getting on him

1279
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 1: because you know, he needed to tighten it up. I

1280
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,480
Speaker 1: think that's what he said on the field when he

1281
01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:31,800
Speaker 1: was screaming at Donald. But sometimes that type of thing

1282
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 1: is not gonna work. When you could Donald is dejected,

1283
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: you could tell he's in a bad mental place. And

1284
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 1: I was a little surprised that p J. Walker wasn't

1285
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 1: in this game because you could tell Donald was in

1286
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: that headspace that we saw with the Jets a few

1287
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:46,760
Speaker 1: times that we've seen earlier this season, where you know,

1288
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,480
Speaker 1: it's just gonna keep going downhill. And I just don't

1289
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 1: know what the Panthers are doing going forward. They're in

1290
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: a tough spot now because he's in a really bad place.

1291
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,919
Speaker 1: Mentally Donald, he's not moving this offense. So you wonder

1292
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 1: if they're gonna if is gonna have to make a

1293
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,400
Speaker 1: move Matt Rule to keep this locker room. I could

1294
01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: see that being a situation now, I think so. I mean,

1295
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 1: I thought this was a good spot for the Carolina Panthers,

1296
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: who wanted to be not unlike New England, a team

1297
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: that was going to dominate with the run and kind

1298
01:04:15,360 --> 01:04:17,760
Speaker 1: of keep Sam Donald out of the mix. The opposite

1299
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: happened today, like they were completely shut down and Rule

1300
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 1: was outclassed by Bill Belichick. And uh, you know it

1301
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 1: shows you because the assessment was we had Teddy Bridgewater,

1302
01:04:27,280 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: but if we you know, they wanted other quarterbacks, but

1303
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: you didn't draft Mac Jones, who Matt Rules spent all

1304
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: weeks saying, well, I knew Mac Jones was going to

1305
01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: be really good in the pros. And you've you you

1306
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:40,160
Speaker 1: basically said we'll take Sam Donald over Teddy Bridgewater going

1307
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,960
Speaker 1: into this season. And it's it's sort of an example

1308
01:04:43,080 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: and a picture of how sideways your campaign will go

1309
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,400
Speaker 1: when the quarterback implodes and Sam Donald at some point

1310
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 1: will be benched here. It could even be this week,

1311
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 1: and he'll never be a starter again. Who, um, well, well,

1312
01:04:55,280 --> 01:04:57,000
Speaker 1: how would you how would you an outside of a

1313
01:04:57,080 --> 01:05:00,040
Speaker 1: pinch spot? How would you justify starting him? Right? I

1314
01:05:00,120 --> 01:05:02,640
Speaker 1: think you're right. I think his if he wasn't drafted

1315
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 1: as high and there weren't enough that many people in

1316
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 1: the league that believed him in the first place, he

1317
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 1: probably wouldn't gotten this long of a run the second

1318
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:09,640
Speaker 1: time around. That said, I don't think they went to

1319
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: p J. Walker in this game, possibly because the next

1320
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 1: time they go to Walker it's gonna be for you know,

1321
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 1: an extended period. Maybe he just wasn't ready for that,

1322
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 1: and maybe he will be on Tuesday, And based on

1323
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:24,200
Speaker 1: his answers in the pre postgame press conference, he certainly

1324
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: wasn't committing to Donald for next week. Um, but I

1325
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 1: think the next time you see p J. Walker, it's

1326
01:05:29,800 --> 01:05:31,600
Speaker 1: not going to just be for a quarter, It'll be

1327
01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: for multiple The body language on the sideline, it was

1328
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: all there that at one point Donald is off by

1329
01:05:36,760 --> 01:05:39,360
Speaker 1: himself on the bench and I think Robby Anderson and

1330
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:42,200
Speaker 1: maybe another skill player was sitting next to walk around

1331
01:05:42,200 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: the bench and they were commiserating, and it's just it's

1332
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,600
Speaker 1: it's actually it's tough to see um as a Jets

1333
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 1: fan who really wanted Donald to be a thing, and

1334
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,240
Speaker 1: you thought he had a fresh start here and things

1335
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: started so well in Carolina. This is the nadir of

1336
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:57,640
Speaker 1: his career, and I think it's fitting that it's Belichick

1337
01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,280
Speaker 1: who's behind it, because he is now. I think he's

1338
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:04,200
Speaker 1: been intercepted nine times and throwing one touchdown pass in

1339
01:06:04,320 --> 01:06:07,280
Speaker 1: four career games against Bill Bill. A. C. Jackson is

1340
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: making himself some money. I hear Patriots people covering them

1341
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 1: or fans being like, oh, he's not Gilmore, Who cares?

1342
01:06:15,960 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the Gilmar was the defensive player there. This

1343
01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 1: guy is playing at a Pro Bowl level. I don't

1344
01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: know if they're gonna pay him enough to keep him.

1345
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: He is gonna be one of those free agents. That

1346
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 1: just makes Gilmore had another good game. By the way

1347
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,080
Speaker 1: he did, he didn't be nice to have Gilmore and J. C. Jackson.

1348
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,240
Speaker 1: Imagine that that would have been very special and a

1349
01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 1: reminder if it hasn't already been said that yes, the

1350
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: Panthers also picked up the fifth year rookie option on

1351
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,440
Speaker 1: Sam Donald. That just they've made some terrible mistakes in

1352
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,040
Speaker 1: the last two years. Your Pats, though, improve in every week.

1353
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,200
Speaker 1: They're my team, the team of zeus TL the Patriots.

1354
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:51,640
Speaker 1: What has happened? They are making a push Patrons football.

1355
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,480
Speaker 1: That's a big matchup. Let's take a break and then

1356
01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: take it home. Dustin Hopkins, in just his second game

1357
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: with the Charge, we'll attempt at twenty nine yard field goal. Well,

1358
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: five seconds loud for the league at the uploints two

1359
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:14,479
Speaker 1: left snap back wall down, white footed kick clears the line.

1360
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 1: It is god two seconds on the clock. What Chargers

1361
01:07:19,520 --> 01:07:24,520
Speaker 1: take the lead? Isaac lower kron k Y s R.

1362
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 1: Missing Matt money Smith, Justin Herbert threw two touchdown passes

1363
01:07:30,280 --> 01:07:32,200
Speaker 1: and ran for a score, and Dustin Hopkins kick that

1364
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,640
Speaker 1: twenty nine yard bield goal with two seconds to play,

1365
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: leading the Charges to win over the Eagles. Mark. There's

1366
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,320
Speaker 1: a big win for the Chargers on the road across

1367
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:44,960
Speaker 1: the country, with a big performance from their young quarterback

1368
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:47,920
Speaker 1: who had been struggling. Yeah, it was two teams I

1369
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: thought that came in wanting to attack things completely differently.

1370
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:54,360
Speaker 1: I mean, the Chargers had eight drives in this game,

1371
01:07:54,920 --> 01:07:57,840
Speaker 1: and so did the Eagles. Because the Eagles came out

1372
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,560
Speaker 1: not unlike what we saw against the troit when they

1373
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:04,240
Speaker 1: basically metamorphosized into something completely different. Ran the ball thirty

1374
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 1: nine times for a hundred and seventy six yards. Jalen

1375
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 1: Hurts had a couple of big runs down the stretch

1376
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:11,560
Speaker 1: and this this game got better and better and more

1377
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:13,600
Speaker 1: exciting and more alluring as it went on. I mean,

1378
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: it was a bit sleepy early, and you know, they

1379
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,280
Speaker 1: held Justin Herbert to three drives in the first half.

1380
01:08:18,560 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: Herbert on the flip side, they kind of said, here's

1381
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,600
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do. You're gonna be obedient. We're going

1382
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:27,160
Speaker 1: to let you show short passes and you'll just you'll,

1383
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,760
Speaker 1: you'll as you say, damn, you'll take what we can do.

1384
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:32,320
Speaker 1: Mark's kind of game, like a quarterback being told to

1385
01:08:32,360 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: be obedient. He was, you know, well he had thirty

1386
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:38,439
Speaker 1: eight passes and only six and completions, but they did.

1387
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 1: But he kind of said, I'm going to be disobedient,

1388
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,800
Speaker 1: and he did throw a couple deep strikes to Mike

1389
01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: Williams and it worked, and Justin Herbert thought played a

1390
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: really good game. It didn't It didn't you know for me. Philadelphia, Greg,

1391
01:08:49,960 --> 01:08:51,680
Speaker 1: You've argued that they can get back into this three

1392
01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:54,160
Speaker 1: and six They're in a tough spot. Um, they needed

1393
01:08:54,160 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 1: to win this. They needed to win this. This was

1394
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,840
Speaker 1: an ugly loss, but Jalen Hurts does show you something

1395
01:08:58,920 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: every game, and it wasn't just garbage time today. Uh.

1396
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 1: I think Darius Slay getting injured down the stretch for

1397
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:08,640
Speaker 1: Philadelphia really hurt them a ton. I mean that was

1398
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: when Los Angeles started to pick up a ton of

1399
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 1: steam and early on. I'll just say one last thing

1400
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,439
Speaker 1: that the that the Chargers had a drive end on

1401
01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 1: Philly's two yard line and then another stopped on fourth

1402
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 1: and two from Phillies twenty seven because of their go

1403
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:26,040
Speaker 1: forward on fourth down thing, and there was some squawking,

1404
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:27,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's fair sometimes to say, if you're

1405
01:09:27,720 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 1: gonna go for it on fourth down this much, come

1406
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,320
Speaker 1: up with plays that work, because they had showed that

1407
01:09:32,360 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 1: they were. But I know that sounds simple, but it's

1408
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 1: like they were two for seven and they're just leaving

1409
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: points on the board. Yet what happened was that came

1410
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 1: back and went forward again on fourth and one in

1411
01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and then fourth and inches. Herbert had

1412
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: a sneak basically that kept that sealed the game because

1413
01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: they would have had to go for a field goal

1414
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: with a minute forty five left or something. If they

1415
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,479
Speaker 1: didn't get that, the Eagles probably win this. That's what

1416
01:09:54,520 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: I'm saying. The way that both teams were driving so

1417
01:09:56,479 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: in the end, Staley's aggressiveness that he is relentless with um.

1418
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 1: I give it a win because it's how they won

1419
01:10:03,560 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 1: this game. But but but early on, it's like when

1420
01:10:06,280 --> 01:10:08,080
Speaker 1: they were two and seven, it was like one of

1421
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: their players was Josh Josh Kelly on a run that

1422
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,599
Speaker 1: just looked like you could have designed something better here.

1423
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: And teams are now keeping the right personnel on the

1424
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:18,559
Speaker 1: field to deal with fourth downs. They're expecting this to happen.

1425
01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: It's a little bit different than a month ago. I

1426
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:24,120
Speaker 1: think it's knowing what your team is and what your

1427
01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,080
Speaker 1: team is on defense is a team that can't get

1428
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:31,200
Speaker 1: off the field even against Jalen Hurts. So especially, they're

1429
01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: gonna get praised when it goes well, and they're gonna get,

1430
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,599
Speaker 1: you know, criticism when it goes poorly. And they started

1431
01:10:36,720 --> 01:10:39,439
Speaker 1: so well this year that it was almost destined. I

1432
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: almost feel like you can't critique it at all though

1433
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:43,200
Speaker 1: it's like everyone must do it all the time and

1434
01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,280
Speaker 1: that's it's different. And for a second I thought they

1435
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: might kick that field goal late and I was like, oh,

1436
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: Staley has gotten spooked by all the fails, but then

1437
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,560
Speaker 1: he actually did go for it. Yet again, I just

1438
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 1: I think it also depends on who your personnel is,

1439
01:10:56,680 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 1: and to me, this Chargers defense has shown no faith

1440
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: uh entrusting them. It's the same as I was watching

1441
01:11:03,080 --> 01:11:05,880
Speaker 1: the Ravens today. The Ravens do not care. The Ravens

1442
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: could be inside their own thirty five down two scores

1443
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: and they're going for it on fourth and two because

1444
01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:14,719
Speaker 1: John Harbor at some point or his analytics team made

1445
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,200
Speaker 1: the point say we are better off risking it, risk

1446
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 1: the biscuit because we have Lamar and he's gonna get

1447
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 1: those yards in our defense isn't good enough. We gotta

1448
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 1: win with our offense on the field. So I'm all

1449
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:27,360
Speaker 1: for it, even if it but you have to be

1450
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:31,320
Speaker 1: imaginative to to Mark's point as well, Um, And it

1451
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 1: will be interesting to see where the Eagles go from here.

1452
01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: As I understand the market, maybe you could shine a

1453
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 1: little more light on it. Jalen Hurts played pretty well

1454
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: in this game, but they have not won a home

1455
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 1: game yet this year they're three and six. Is a

1456
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,320
Speaker 1: famously fickle fan base and an owner that's gonna be

1457
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,960
Speaker 1: plugged in to how the city and the region feels

1458
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: about the Eagles. They're three and six, so I think

1459
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be I don't think the Eagles are a

1460
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: playoff team. I think this is an evaluation period for

1461
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,560
Speaker 1: two months now, and the evaluation is gonna be on

1462
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:59,200
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, of course, and I just wonder if the

1463
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,680
Speaker 1: evaluation is on Nick Sirianni as well. Where the Eagles are.

1464
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,640
Speaker 1: I think the only thing though, I mean, this was

1465
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,960
Speaker 1: not a disastrous game on any level. I don't know.

1466
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,720
Speaker 1: I don't think, yes, you lost, But if Eagles fans

1467
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: are like up in arms about what they watched, it's

1468
01:12:13,560 --> 01:12:16,120
Speaker 1: it's like, yeah, one was the one that threw flowers

1469
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: at Nick Sirianna's. He went in the tunnel after the game,

1470
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 1: and it wasn't like a beautiful job, Nick Flowers. That's

1471
01:12:22,720 --> 01:12:25,360
Speaker 1: still a you know, if you're gonna throw something from

1472
01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 1: the stands at someone you're angry at, flowers is a

1473
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 1: bit of a mixer. And I'm like, what, like, why

1474
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:34,599
Speaker 1: did you have that in the first place? They're like, justin,

1475
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: we are really mad at Sirianni after the game, let's

1476
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,599
Speaker 1: bring flowers because that'll like kind of throw people off.

1477
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,120
Speaker 1: That's have been like a pin to my sports coat.

1478
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,679
Speaker 1: Like it's a very strange batteries. And it's like, okay,

1479
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:49,519
Speaker 1: we can get away with that. Oh Eagles, So do

1480
01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:52,400
Speaker 1: you always to bring up the battery stuff? Hey, how

1481
01:12:52,400 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: about prevent a quarterback from throwing for against you? I

1482
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: felt bad for Jalen Hurts and they're running game. This

1483
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 1: is the fifth quarterback to complete over of his passes.

1484
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: Like most of the time that's happened in the league

1485
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: this year, it's come against the Eagles. That's that's Jonathan

1486
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,360
Speaker 1: Gannon's defense. And Jonathan Gannon and Brandon Staley were childhood friends,

1487
01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,559
Speaker 1: I learned during this game. So we did in bo

1488
01:13:15,400 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: that's a erroneous that's an urban legend. Yeah, we had

1489
01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:22,000
Speaker 1: a jail underneath the old stadium, but so did your stadium.

1490
01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: Oh I love that thug using erroneous correctly there. That was, Um,

1491
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: you gonna get thinking me saying this this year in

1492
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: the NFC, But it's like, to me, the Eagles are

1493
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,880
Speaker 1: still fairly far from evaluation. When you're like one loss

1494
01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: behind the Falcons or Panthers for that spot. Like all

1495
01:13:40,280 --> 01:13:42,599
Speaker 1: these teams that, into Mark's point is, are not are

1496
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,360
Speaker 1: not gonna win the Super Bowl. They're gonna be in

1497
01:13:44,439 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: the mix in like week fIF from a value or

1498
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: from elimination saying like there's I guess we're all being

1499
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,600
Speaker 1: evalue at it at all times. Right you're saying that,

1500
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 1: you're saying like they're got the next year, but they

1501
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,560
Speaker 1: don't think it. I can tell you that I do.

1502
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 1: I don't mean I don't. They just seem to be

1503
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: short of the bar. If we're talking about teams that

1504
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're not worth tracking or they're believing

1505
01:14:05,479 --> 01:14:08,120
Speaker 1: in on any level. But it seems like a team

1506
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:11,960
Speaker 1: that pulled me back in needs to step up and

1507
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,720
Speaker 1: maybe one other team too or else. You know, right

1508
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: now we have some really bad looking teams that are

1509
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:18,880
Speaker 1: in the a f C point. Well, go make a

1510
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: seventh playoff game and then be surprised that you get

1511
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:23,479
Speaker 1: some sort of trash heat playing in January. All right,

1512
01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:25,559
Speaker 1: let's uh, let's get to the game we've all been

1513
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:30,719
Speaker 1: waiting for. With thirty three seconds back with roll pressure

1514
01:14:30,760 --> 01:14:36,640
Speaker 1: against it's mac Hollins, who makes a diving kids in

1515
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: the back of the end zone and Dolphins finally have

1516
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,000
Speaker 1: their first touchdown in the second quarter of this year.

1517
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: Mac Collins go down and get it in the end zone.

1518
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 1: Man feel the excitement. It didn't sound like Jason Taylor,

1519
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:54,240
Speaker 1: but maybe it was w q A m with the call.

1520
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: In the NFL's most turnover filled game in more than

1521
01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: five years, the Dolphins got a touchdown pass from their

1522
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,479
Speaker 1: surprise starter, j Kobe Brossett, and they beat the Texans

1523
01:15:07,680 --> 01:15:11,400
Speaker 1: seventeen to nine in a game between two one and

1524
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:16,280
Speaker 1: seven teams, two teams on seven game losing streaks. Play

1525
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:20,840
Speaker 1: it out exactly how we all thought. And Mark, here's

1526
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,640
Speaker 1: a nice little fun fact for you. No players with

1527
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,479
Speaker 1: matching names, but it was Miami's first win while committing

1528
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:34,839
Speaker 1: at least five turnovers since October eighteenth. Nine. I'm stunned

1529
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: nine turnovers? Where were you on October eighteen? Mark camp

1530
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: Happiness high school sophomore year. I believe last an inn

1531
01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,720
Speaker 1: excess out the trunk and really know the energy in

1532
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,800
Speaker 1: the room. Texas. Kudos to the Dolphins for having like

1533
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: a surprise starting quarterback doesn't really happen in the year one.

1534
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: No one seemed to know that it's bad's gonna miss this,

1535
01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 1: like the two situations bad because you know, we just

1536
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 1: finished talking about leading into this game, all right. At

1537
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:10,679
Speaker 1: least the d Shaun think gets tabled until after the season.

1538
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 1: Go take off to a take flight, give make him

1539
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: make a difficult decision and maybe you end up in

1540
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,680
Speaker 1: a better place next year. No matter what. Well, he's

1541
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: got to stay healthy and it's an issue with him.

1542
01:16:21,240 --> 01:16:22,880
Speaker 1: It was an issue in college with a hip injury.

1543
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,040
Speaker 1: He was banged up last year, He's been banged up

1544
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 1: this year, and um, it's just gonna make it harder

1545
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:30,280
Speaker 1: for him to establish himself there if he's not playing.

1546
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's six games he's missed. Now. Nine

1547
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:37,519
Speaker 1: turnovers is two more than in what many called the

1548
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: greatest game ever played Colts Giants. I always think like that,

1549
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:44,519
Speaker 1: they'd say it's the greatest game ever played. There were

1550
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,880
Speaker 1: six fumbles in the first half of that game. Seven turnovers,

1551
01:16:47,920 --> 01:16:49,599
Speaker 1: Like football wasn't really you know, I don't know if

1552
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: I've heard this before from Greg, and he's correct. Once

1553
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,840
Speaker 1: there's a huge turnover game, you think, you know, the

1554
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,920
Speaker 1: Giants being on the winning end of that game. It

1555
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 1: maybe plays into your hatred of it as well. Now

1556
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: they lost Johnny You going down part of the legend

1557
01:17:05,720 --> 01:17:10,400
Speaker 1: overtime its like, and then professional football was born. I

1558
01:17:10,479 --> 01:17:12,240
Speaker 1: thought it was some nice black and white photos from

1559
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: that content. I thought that there was a goal line sneak.

1560
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:16,840
Speaker 1: It was Johnny who did it? No, that was that

1561
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,000
Speaker 1: was That was the other greatest game of all time.

1562
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,920
Speaker 1: I believe you're talking about the Packers, like the ice

1563
01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 1: pool ball. That's different. There's another one Giants Colts was

1564
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,800
Speaker 1: where Johnny You goes down, you know, in overtime and

1565
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: leads them to the win, the winning thing, and everyone

1566
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:35,000
Speaker 1: watched on TV and then people start watching TV. All right, Ricky,

1567
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,519
Speaker 1: can you do some digging on this? Sometimes I don't

1568
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,000
Speaker 1: always trust Greg and I brought up the box car

1569
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: to make sure we on the Colts. What you're on

1570
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,320
Speaker 1: a side on this is I agree with the idea

1571
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:50,200
Speaker 1: that the best game ever having like two turnovers. There's

1572
01:17:50,280 --> 01:17:52,600
Speaker 1: some from a certain point of view, maybe that's not

1573
01:17:52,720 --> 01:17:54,120
Speaker 1: the best game ever. And do you want to you

1574
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: have anything to add before we move on? Greg? On

1575
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,160
Speaker 1: Tyrod Taylor, you were pretty hot in the path about

1576
01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:01,840
Speaker 1: tie guy three picks act five times. Well, you see, um,

1577
01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,040
Speaker 1: he had six magical quarters and now he's got four

1578
01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: terrible quarters. That average it's gonna be tough to rank

1579
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: him on QB index is pretty good though. I tried

1580
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,920
Speaker 1: to do it about like what's the average gate start

1581
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:17,679
Speaker 1: that you've had, and he's reelly been all over the place.

1582
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:22,439
Speaker 1: NFL's greatest game ever. I mean, I'm taking the all

1583
01:18:22,479 --> 01:18:23,800
Speaker 1: on this. I'm letting you know, but I'm just trying

1584
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,320
Speaker 1: to think is there a different I mean, they had

1585
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:29,519
Speaker 1: the book called like the greatest game ever played, and

1586
01:18:29,640 --> 01:18:32,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, that's the one they called it was.

1587
01:18:33,439 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: But it was at the goal line, the touchdown that

1588
01:18:35,200 --> 01:18:38,559
Speaker 1: decided the game right and over. I think they wanted

1589
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:42,679
Speaker 1: on a goal line. I don't thought it was maybe

1590
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 1: Frank Gifford going over the pilot. It could be time

1591
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 1: to rebrand it was the greatest game. It was Alan

1592
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:54,160
Speaker 1: Amici with a one yard run in over you like

1593
01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 1: a great two minute drive to to tie it. Send

1594
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,200
Speaker 1: it to controversy on that final play as well as

1595
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:01,720
Speaker 1: I recalled, and maybe some very much so. I think

1596
01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, it's split people's opinions. Erica, can you edit

1597
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,720
Speaker 1: out the last four minutes since I brought up a

1598
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:11,439
Speaker 1: turnover thing. It's my fault, all right, Let's never talk

1599
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: about that game again. Let's try to avoid talk about

1600
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,840
Speaker 1: those two teams again. Let's take a break and move

1601
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:31,479
Speaker 1: to Sunday Night Football, Sunday nine. The touchdown, Madam, it's

1602
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:37,839
Speaker 1: it's ket Yes, Al Michael's with a call for NBC

1603
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:41,680
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford through two interceptions of the second quarter to

1604
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 1: second run back twenty four yards of the house by

1605
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:48,679
Speaker 1: Kevin Byard that gave Tennessee a fourteen three lead. After

1606
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:53,040
Speaker 1: the pad they never looked back. Final score Tennessee Titans

1607
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight, Los Angeles Rams sixteen, Maro own in a

1608
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:04,600
Speaker 1: a day and now at night, Greg of results that

1609
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,439
Speaker 1: sometimes were hard to figure out. I mean, who thought

1610
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: that the Titans were gonna go to l A and

1611
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:13,240
Speaker 1: dominate the Rams start to finish? Justin Graver did. Actually

1612
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:15,719
Speaker 1: he didn't even really feel like he know, he thought

1613
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,240
Speaker 1: Great Digger, remember Great Digger said they were gonna lose

1614
01:20:19,280 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: thirty eight thirty I believe something like he didn't even

1615
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: have him covering, at least I had him covering. I

1616
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,519
Speaker 1: believed in you. Titans Nation is really about Gregg picking

1617
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 1: the Titans to cover the truest words I thought said

1618
01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:33,600
Speaker 1: to today or on the broadcast where Al Michael's to

1619
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,720
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons and the elevator where he said, like, if

1620
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:38,479
Speaker 1: you have a big game like you're gonna you can

1621
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 1: make the Pro Bowl off of that, And that was it.

1622
01:20:40,240 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons made the Pro Bowl tonight. I mean he

1623
01:20:42,439 --> 01:20:45,120
Speaker 1: should have made it, uh with his work over the

1624
01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: last seven or eight games, But that first half was

1625
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: as dominant a performance by a defensive lineman in any game.

1626
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: He sort of took the game over Didny Guatry. You know,

1627
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of a nice robin to his batman. But

1628
01:20:58,720 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if defense adders in terms of like

1629
01:21:01,479 --> 01:21:04,519
Speaker 1: one defense can dominate week after week after week. But

1630
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: you certainly get defenses that can make enough plays and

1631
01:21:08,680 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 1: dominate in a certain matchup. And the Titans defense won

1632
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 1: this matchup. They did it. Yeah, I thought that this

1633
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,720
Speaker 1: was like a Mike Vrabel fever dream, the way that

1634
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,479
Speaker 1: the first half played out. And you know, the rams,

1635
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,960
Speaker 1: uh you know, you got, you got they were uncharacteristic.

1636
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:25,680
Speaker 1: You've got the uncharacteristic back to back drives with the

1637
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:28,880
Speaker 1: picks by Stafford. They didn't really get out of their

1638
01:21:28,920 --> 01:21:30,920
Speaker 1: own out of their own way in the first half.

1639
01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:33,280
Speaker 1: I thought they adjusted well to get him, to get

1640
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: Stafford out of the pocket. In the second half and

1641
01:21:36,160 --> 01:21:38,840
Speaker 1: in they and they crawled back to life a little bit.

1642
01:21:39,040 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 1: But touch your own touchdown drives or would be touchdown

1643
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 1: drives were field goal drives. And if someone told me

1644
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,800
Speaker 1: going into this night that you know, outside of a

1645
01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,840
Speaker 1: late touchdown, Adrian Peterson would largely flop, the run game

1646
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't work. The Titans would have a hundred and nine

1647
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,560
Speaker 1: total yards at three point five yards per play. I

1648
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,680
Speaker 1: would have thought this is a Ram steamroll operation. But

1649
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 1: they found another part of their team, their defense, to

1650
01:22:02,479 --> 01:22:05,599
Speaker 1: totally step up, and they just completely dominated the Los

1651
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: Angeles front in the first thirty minutes and then hung

1652
01:22:07,960 --> 01:22:10,160
Speaker 1: on for the ride. It was a very of the

1653
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: ball game for the Rams. I think it's you know,

1654
01:22:13,200 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: some losses, like some of these Cincinnati losses as an example, Uh,

1655
01:22:17,520 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: the last two weeks, you start to go like, oh,

1656
01:22:19,439 --> 01:22:22,200
Speaker 1: what's going on here? Um, the Rams. It just feels

1657
01:22:22,240 --> 01:22:24,559
Speaker 1: like sometimes with teams, you know, even the good ones,

1658
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:26,760
Speaker 1: the stars aren't aligned right and you just don't play

1659
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:29,439
Speaker 1: your best game. And that's not taking anything away from

1660
01:22:29,439 --> 01:22:31,760
Speaker 1: the Titans, because I think they kind of put their

1661
01:22:31,800 --> 01:22:34,240
Speaker 1: will on the Rams and that played a huge role

1662
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: in this. But the Rams also getting penalized twelve times

1663
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:40,240
Speaker 1: for a hundred and fifteen yards, that's not the Rams. Um,

1664
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 1: Like you said, Stafford, with those two killer interceptions that

1665
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,479
Speaker 1: set up fourteen points, that's not the Rams. And um.

1666
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: You know, so Los Angeles will have better days. I

1667
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 1: think they'll bounce back from this. They'll get von Miller

1668
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 1: in the lineup as soon as next week. But the

1669
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:58,760
Speaker 1: story here is the Titans, and you know, Greg, you

1670
01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:02,120
Speaker 1: tweeted about at it uh as the fourth quarter kind

1671
01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:05,240
Speaker 1: of took shape and we had a better idea of

1672
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: what was going on here. Over the last four weeks,

1673
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:12,280
Speaker 1: the Titans have beat the Bills, the Chiefs, the Colts,

1674
01:23:12,560 --> 01:23:15,759
Speaker 1: and now the Rams. And they did it uh tonight

1675
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: in prime time on the road with Derrick Henry uh

1676
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:21,640
Speaker 1: in a cast on his foot. So we're at the

1677
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,240
Speaker 1: point now where there's you know, they've checked every box,

1678
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,360
Speaker 1: um and you could say, well, it's just one game

1679
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:30,040
Speaker 1: without Henry, it's gonna catch up to him maybe, but

1680
01:23:30,360 --> 01:23:32,280
Speaker 1: they just seem to be playing so well and have

1681
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:36,200
Speaker 1: so much confidence. And most importantly, they've found some figure

1682
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 1: out some things out on defense that has been long

1683
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,640
Speaker 1: been an issue for them, especially you know, getting to

1684
01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:44,679
Speaker 1: the quarterback. That has been a problem for them for years.

1685
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:46,880
Speaker 1: The back end hurting them, and a lot of that

1686
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: was because they couldn't get pressure through a natural pass rush.

1687
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:52,080
Speaker 1: All that is changing now and it seems like it's

1688
01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:54,600
Speaker 1: a more well balanced team. They have more sacks this

1689
01:23:54,720 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 1: year than they did all of last year. And you

1690
01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: go Autry, Harold, Landry and Simmons are a great trio.

1691
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:04,120
Speaker 1: They could get healthier in the secondary. I don't think

1692
01:24:04,120 --> 01:24:06,479
Speaker 1: they're gonna be a dominant defense week after week, but

1693
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:08,680
Speaker 1: the thing they do well as game plan for that

1694
01:24:08,800 --> 01:24:12,320
Speaker 1: particular week. And when you think about like those four wins,

1695
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: they were all in such different ways, and they do

1696
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:18,200
Speaker 1: remind me a little bit, you know, of of other

1697
01:24:18,280 --> 01:24:21,200
Speaker 1: Titans teams, but also of Patriots teams, because Rabel's got

1698
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: that that d NA and him that it's like they're

1699
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: they're different depending on what you need they need to

1700
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 1: be in a particular week, but they have the ability

1701
01:24:30,479 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: to be very complete. He has a winning percentage now

1702
01:24:33,400 --> 01:24:35,640
Speaker 1: of over six thirty as a as a pro that

1703
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:38,760
Speaker 1: as a pro head coach like Mike Rabels, figured out

1704
01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: a way in weird ways to win a lot of games.

1705
01:24:41,400 --> 01:24:43,680
Speaker 1: I also think Kevin Bayer, who doesn't get a lot

1706
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 1: of attention, It's like every week he seems to make

1707
01:24:46,439 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: game changing plays. I mean, they just have, you know,

1708
01:24:49,240 --> 01:24:51,400
Speaker 1: stepped up as a defense. And I kind of like

1709
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: to Chris Collinsworth said about Rabel at the end of

1710
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:57,639
Speaker 1: the game that he's different than other coaches. Um, he's

1711
01:24:57,680 --> 01:25:01,120
Speaker 1: not one of these you know, newfangled finesse scheme guys

1712
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 1: that he just did. He is and you can kind

1713
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: of see it on the sideline. He just got a

1714
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:06,680
Speaker 1: look on his face like he's ready to counter what

1715
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 1: he's excited to counter Sean McVeigh with what he does.

1716
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:11,320
Speaker 1: And I mean the one thought that I do think

1717
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:15,320
Speaker 1: that this game could have turned at one point when Stafford,

1718
01:25:15,800 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: you know, he stumbled and he hurt his ankle. But

1719
01:25:18,680 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 1: there was a killer roughing the pass or it's back

1720
01:25:21,120 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 1: to back roughing the passer calls. The second one was legit.

1721
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,200
Speaker 1: The first one give me a break, and it gave

1722
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:29,839
Speaker 1: I mean, it gave them New Life, like it just happens.

1723
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:33,600
Speaker 1: It happens too much in our league. Uh the and

1724
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 1: I know it's all about protecting the quarterbacks in the

1725
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:38,600
Speaker 1: league is all about the quarterbacks, but especially when you

1726
01:25:38,720 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: throw that flag and that was there off the field

1727
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 1: the Rams and they're still not in a good spot.

1728
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:46,000
Speaker 1: They probably, I would say at that point, if you

1729
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,519
Speaker 1: check those FUGA websites, I would guess the Titans have

1730
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:52,519
Speaker 1: like an eighty five percent chance of winning at that point.

1731
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,360
Speaker 1: But there was still two touchdowns at the down to

1732
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: touch but it's still it's like, yeah, that's Donald and

1733
01:25:58,880 --> 01:26:02,240
Speaker 1: Collinsworth put it well, like that's you know, two pounds

1734
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: of masks in a full sprint after the quarterback and

1735
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,599
Speaker 1: he's in the process of pushing his arms out as

1736
01:26:07,720 --> 01:26:09,640
Speaker 1: Tan Hills following through on the throw. So that to

1737
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: to ding him on that on a third down where

1738
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:14,160
Speaker 1: they're getting off the field back that kills him. But

1739
01:26:14,439 --> 01:26:17,599
Speaker 1: it was the equivalent of Stafford throwing that interception. I mean,

1740
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:20,599
Speaker 1: that's the only thing I have a little I pushed

1741
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:22,800
Speaker 1: back at time of it. It wasn't obviously a terrible call.

1742
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 1: There's been too many of these with roughing the pastor.

1743
01:26:25,560 --> 01:26:28,479
Speaker 1: But like there's this weird expectation I feel now, especially

1744
01:26:28,760 --> 01:26:31,040
Speaker 1: just being on Twitter during HIMS, It's like that refs

1745
01:26:31,040 --> 01:26:33,280
Speaker 1: are gonna get everything right. It's like, of course they're

1746
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,519
Speaker 1: not gonna get everything right. We I think it was

1747
01:26:35,560 --> 01:26:37,519
Speaker 1: seeing the game on the field, like when we were

1748
01:26:37,560 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: in London, Like, how do they get any calls right? Ever,

1749
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 1: like the very best in the world, Matthew Stafford is

1750
01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:45,559
Speaker 1: gonna totally freak out and have a handful of plays

1751
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 1: every night where he sucks, Like that first interception was

1752
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 1: was ridiculous, and then the second one he's fooled, and

1753
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: like the officials are going to have some plays. Why

1754
01:26:54,400 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: Jean McVeigh kicked the field goal down twelve? You know

1755
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 1: what I mean. You're saying that day at the office.

1756
01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:05,280
Speaker 1: You're saying, I'm saying bad plays. They're gonna have bad plays.

1757
01:27:05,320 --> 01:27:08,360
Speaker 1: It's just gonna happen. It's not seven anymore. We have

1758
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:11,400
Speaker 1: the tech. They in fact have technology now where they

1759
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:15,439
Speaker 1: can correct things on the field in seconds. We've seen it.

1760
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 1: It's really helped the product this year. That's a perfect

1761
01:27:18,200 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 1: thing where New York could buzz down and override a

1762
01:27:21,160 --> 01:27:24,120
Speaker 1: personal foul like that. And I think everyone would sign

1763
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,200
Speaker 1: off on it, because it's just you can't swing games

1764
01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 1: like that. I don't want us to get bogged down

1765
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:30,640
Speaker 1: on that because again, the Titans, we're gonna win this

1766
01:27:30,760 --> 01:27:33,240
Speaker 1: game either way, but it does. It's kind of an

1767
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:35,120
Speaker 1: ugly thing when it happens. One other name I want

1768
01:27:35,120 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 1: to throw out there, uh, and then you guys can

1769
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:39,360
Speaker 1: share your final thoughts and then we'll say goodbye. Um.

1770
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: We talked about Mike Vrabel a lot. We talk about

1771
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:45,360
Speaker 1: Arthur Smith a lot, and then he got the job

1772
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:48,120
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. And you've heard Todd Downing's name a lot.

1773
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 1: You don't really hear Shane Bowen a lot. And that's

1774
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: the Titans defensive coordinator. And he deserves a ton of credit, uh,

1775
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,360
Speaker 1: as much as head coach does the players. What a

1776
01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,680
Speaker 1: great scheme that was cooked up. So the Titans just

1777
01:28:01,800 --> 01:28:04,240
Speaker 1: have it working in all phases right now. They're gonna

1778
01:28:04,240 --> 01:28:06,200
Speaker 1: be a top three power rankings team. For me, in

1779
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,599
Speaker 1: a week where most of the top ten teams lost

1780
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,280
Speaker 1: in that futile exercise that I go through every week,

1781
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:14,800
Speaker 1: the Titans are the one team in the a f

1782
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 1: C that you feel really good about right now. I

1783
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 1: my my one reservation, Um, they've earned it, and I'd

1784
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 1: have no problem with you putting them there that I

1785
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:25,920
Speaker 1: look at what they did on offense and how they

1786
01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: were limited on offense tonight to some degree against a

1787
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:31,440
Speaker 1: good Rams defense. But they're gonna meet other good defenses.

1788
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: I leave a little concerned with with what they produced.

1789
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 1: You know that said like huge effort and nothing take

1790
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: to take nothing away from Tennessee. But again under two

1791
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:44,719
Speaker 1: hundred yards is concerning, just with the way it unfolded

1792
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 1: to some degree. It's crazy. They won in l A

1793
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:49,400
Speaker 1: easily on a night where A J. Brown kind of

1794
01:28:49,479 --> 01:28:52,560
Speaker 1: killed them killed two drives. Uh, and they didn't have

1795
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 1: much of a running game. As you mentioned, I did

1796
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: think Julio, even though the numbers didn't pop off, there

1797
01:28:57,439 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 1: were two plays in this game where I thought I

1798
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:03,559
Speaker 1: was like, oh, he looks like he looks healthier after

1799
01:29:03,720 --> 01:29:06,439
Speaker 1: having that time off the field. That would vote very

1800
01:29:06,479 --> 01:29:09,800
Speaker 1: well killer really helpful catch down the stretch too. That

1801
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,080
Speaker 1: um alright, So Collinsworth put it well at the end

1802
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:17,760
Speaker 1: of the telecast. This league is so weird, isn't It's

1803
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: a weird Sunday in the league. Just to like quickly

1804
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 1: recap the Packers lost with our on Aaron Rodgers. The

1805
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:29,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys got spanked when Dak returned. The Bills got beat

1806
01:29:29,240 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 1: by the Jaguars. The Rams get beat at home by

1807
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,360
Speaker 1: the Titans without Derrick Henry. The Saints go down to

1808
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:38,920
Speaker 1: the Falcons. I mean it is. The Bengals get wiped

1809
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:42,719
Speaker 1: by the Browns. It's it's gonna be an interesting second

1810
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,640
Speaker 1: half of the year because we don't have a lot

1811
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:47,400
Speaker 1: of clarity on a lot of the teams in the league.

1812
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,080
Speaker 1: It will be fun but also maybe a little infuriating,

1813
01:29:50,600 --> 01:29:53,160
Speaker 1: uh for fans of teams, because just when you think

1814
01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 1: you understand your team the whole thing's the whole thing

1815
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 1: can flip like I'm not sure it's what I want.

1816
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:03,439
Speaker 1: Um totally unpredictable nature, where like you feel like a

1817
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,639
Speaker 1: team is this and it's like the most readable team

1818
01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:08,920
Speaker 1: to me is almost the Vikings, because it's like every

1819
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 1: game of there seems to be insane in it down

1820
01:30:10,920 --> 01:30:13,280
Speaker 1: to the end. But like, I don't know, I guess

1821
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:16,320
Speaker 1: you just that's the best product in the country. I

1822
01:30:16,439 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 1: hear you. But like, but if I'm just told that,

1823
01:30:18,720 --> 01:30:21,719
Speaker 1: I'll accept it and I'll I'll share the same message.

1824
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:24,960
Speaker 1: But I kind of feel like there's no dominant team,

1825
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 1: and to watch like some of these powers, these heavies

1826
01:30:28,439 --> 01:30:30,920
Speaker 1: get waxed the way they were today, it's a little

1827
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,680
Speaker 1: destabilizing in terms of what we like confidently project going

1828
01:30:34,720 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 1: in the next week. But I think, you know what,

1829
01:30:36,240 --> 01:30:38,280
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have been confident about what we're projecting three

1830
01:30:38,360 --> 01:30:40,920
Speaker 1: years ago. So that's fine. When we always say like

1831
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:43,479
Speaker 1: we don't know anything, and that there was Greg, I

1832
01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,519
Speaker 1: know you think that, you know, I don't think that's

1833
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 1: your take on No, I'm always saying I don't. I

1834
01:30:49,280 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 1: think we know a lot about like the league and

1835
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:54,519
Speaker 1: how it works and players and all this stuff. But

1836
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:58,320
Speaker 1: at no point, whether it's somewhat unpredictable of the year

1837
01:30:58,439 --> 01:31:02,679
Speaker 1: or another year, is an anyone consistently good at projecting

1838
01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 1: what happens moving forward at all. And I don't mean

1839
01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: like we are, I mean, like literally, there there's a

1840
01:31:10,000 --> 01:31:12,439
Speaker 1: record out there like no one is good at projecting

1841
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:15,040
Speaker 1: what happens moving forward, Like that's just not gonna happen.

1842
01:31:15,439 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 1: I feel like, you watch the NFL, let's let's get

1843
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: back to the serious matter at hand. So because it

1844
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: was a RAMS home game, primetime game, we're in the

1845
01:31:23,080 --> 01:31:26,559
Speaker 1: new facility that shares. It's on the same grounds as

1846
01:31:26,600 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: the stadium. Um. Mark and I took the opportunity to

1847
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,720
Speaker 1: head back home and do this last game remotely. Greg,

1848
01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:38,040
Speaker 1: you opted to stay behind, uh for matters concerning You're

1849
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: set up at home, and it was just better for

1850
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,920
Speaker 1: you to stay there. Ricky a little farther to a

1851
01:31:41,960 --> 01:31:45,320
Speaker 1: little farther, a little further away. Ricky also still the

1852
01:31:45,360 --> 01:31:48,360
Speaker 1: facility now usually we watched the second half of Sunday

1853
01:31:48,400 --> 01:31:51,479
Speaker 1: Night Football in the theater. Chris Rose is there, m

1854
01:31:51,560 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: j D s there. Some producers are in the room.

1855
01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:58,960
Speaker 1: After the incident with Mark and Chris Rose earlier today,

1856
01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:02,080
Speaker 1: was there any type of visual heat connected to that

1857
01:32:02,200 --> 01:32:05,400
Speaker 1: situation of his heat so much as disappointment? You know,

1858
01:32:05,520 --> 01:32:07,760
Speaker 1: you would think after something like that would happen that

1859
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:12,479
Speaker 1: just man to man, like you know, confront him in

1860
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:14,400
Speaker 1: the like say something to his face, you know, just

1861
01:32:14,560 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: like sort of repair that relationship, like be there. So

1862
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,280
Speaker 1: it's a no show after that I think was tough.

1863
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 1: So so your version of man to man confrontation is

1864
01:32:25,000 --> 01:32:27,160
Speaker 1: that you guys discussed it while I was at my house. No,

1865
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,000
Speaker 1: not man, it's not in the confrontation, but just like, hey,

1866
01:32:30,479 --> 01:32:32,519
Speaker 1: he he did also say how much he missed us

1867
01:32:32,600 --> 01:32:35,640
Speaker 1: last week, remember as we were home for Halloween, and

1868
01:32:35,720 --> 01:32:39,720
Speaker 1: then you you kind of jolted him at the altar. Again, well,

1869
01:32:40,200 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: I hear we have good male bonding. You know, I

1870
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,600
Speaker 1: got to do that to those I like when you

1871
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 1: have traditional male bonding. Greg, you know that, And Mark

1872
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:51,120
Speaker 1: on an otherwise perfect Sunday, this was the lone blemish,

1873
01:32:51,160 --> 01:32:53,879
Speaker 1: but certainly doesn't sound like anything that can't be corrected

1874
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,000
Speaker 1: with a real honest conversation. Well, it's a totally pre

1875
01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: cooked um scenario that I'll play along with for your

1876
01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: giggles and enjoyment. But I am confident that my relationship

1877
01:33:04,800 --> 01:33:07,560
Speaker 1: with with Chris Rose, who I've you know, had a

1878
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 1: good relationship with for years, is not going to be

1879
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,960
Speaker 1: body rocked because I, you know, like had a short

1880
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:18,120
Speaker 1: Brown's conversation with him that will precede other conversations. You

1881
01:33:18,200 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: were short with him during the break joke. And again

1882
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,679
Speaker 1: again that is your take, and like there are other

1883
01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:28,559
Speaker 1: takes beyond what the two of you say in terms

1884
01:33:28,640 --> 01:33:31,040
Speaker 1: of directing my life. Um from A to B two

1885
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 1: C NonStop very good? Um, all right, And and not

1886
01:33:36,800 --> 01:33:40,559
Speaker 1: only the Browns, Mark, um uh, not only Colt McCoy.

1887
01:33:40,640 --> 01:33:42,959
Speaker 1: And you got a big W I'm gonna I concede

1888
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:46,400
Speaker 1: big W two on the Josh Allen versus Josh Allen situation.

1889
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had a good game against Josh Allen. Therefore,

1890
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: the two Josh Allen's having the same name is really cool.

1891
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:56,880
Speaker 1: So I can see that as well. Hyper relevant today.

1892
01:33:58,240 --> 01:34:02,760
Speaker 1: All Right, you know what's coming next Tuesdays? The next

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Speaker 1: time you uh, we'll hear from the bozos, we'll have

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Speaker 1: the great Cynthia Freeland joining us to take a look

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Speaker 1: at what comes next. You know, this is actually very

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Speaker 1: great timing, Greg, because we don't know what's going on,

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Speaker 1: and you can't you can't project forward. While she has

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Speaker 1: a machine, she keeps it. It's actually in her bedroom,

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Speaker 1: which is interesting. Um, and she pumps, she puts things

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Speaker 1: into the machine and it pumps out. This is how

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Speaker 1: the NFL is going to play out in the second half.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get some hard answers based on data data

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Speaker 1: however you want. I will not I will note that

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Speaker 1: the last time she was on our show, maybe it was,

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Speaker 1: you know, the last time I was on this when

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Speaker 1: she was. I asked her to send me um a

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Speaker 1: photo of said machine and set up and she promised

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Speaker 1: you and never did. So I want to follow up

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Speaker 1: on that and uh see where we are with that

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Speaker 1: sounds like another relationship exactly, like I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: say a word. Actually this is this is stupid, like

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to have any associates by the end

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Speaker 1: of this podcast. Please all right, good stuff, so we'll

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Speaker 1: be back Tuesday. Make sure you check in and thank

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Speaker 1: you everybody for listening. And that's Dan had the signing

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Speaker 1: off for the Old Boss, the Quiet Storm, Ricky Hollywood.

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Speaker 1: Until next time, Eat the Ball. M h m hm