WEBVTT - HR1: In the Locker Room Live from Training Camp

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<v Speaker 2>Actor Matthew McConaughey. Alright, alride, all ride gentle man dark

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<v Speaker 2>your whoa weel that Kinger?

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<v Speaker 3>You can feel that King? Huh yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>How about that? Inside the locker Room with King and Starks,

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<v Speaker 2>presented by our neighborhood Ford Store here on the Steeler's

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<v Speaker 2>Audio Network, alongside Max Starks, wes Uler, Justin Miller, and

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<v Speaker 2>our iHeart Studios. I'm Rob King, Thanks very much for

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<v Speaker 2>being with us. Whose idea was that to get that

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<v Speaker 2>fired up?

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<v Speaker 4>Listen that that is the inspiration of the one, the only,

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<v Speaker 4>the late Great Craig Wolfley and CJ reminded us the

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<v Speaker 4>Latrobe five hundred will be underway, I would say tomorrow,

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<v Speaker 4>but we won't be on the airwaves because they'll have

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<v Speaker 4>a walk through and that'll be it. This is the

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<v Speaker 4>last great day that you're jockeying for pole position after

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<v Speaker 4>this practice to figure out when are we going to

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<v Speaker 4>get it done?

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<v Speaker 3>Now? You know, Mike Tomalin has a.

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<v Speaker 4>History, you know, whether spotty or not where sometimes he'll

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<v Speaker 4>release them tonight and then you'll do a walk through

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<v Speaker 4>and tomorrow in south Side. But I know a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of young boys. I don't know if he's gonna pull it.

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<v Speaker 4>But we're not gonna be on the airways tomorrow because

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<v Speaker 4>of the close practice and an early morning one. So

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<v Speaker 4>next time we'll talk will be Thursday. So we figured

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<v Speaker 4>you got to play it because this was one of

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<v Speaker 4>Wolfe's favorite things to do. And you know, thanks to

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<v Speaker 4>CJ for for reminding us about this. But the La

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<v Speaker 4>Trope five hundred, you know, usually starts on UH on

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<v Speaker 4>Route thirty, goes goes to seventy six, then to three

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<v Speaker 4>seventy six and then after that to parts unknown and

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<v Speaker 4>then where guys will live.

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<v Speaker 2>For people who don't know, that is the exodus.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, mass, mass, exodus mass, let's not play it down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, everybody will be leaving.

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<v Speaker 2>And it is a it's a great it's a great camp, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and the players rave about how great it is. But

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<v Speaker 2>at some point, right, it's it's time to it's time.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think it's you know, we talked about this Max,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember what's on the air off Mike about like.

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<v Speaker 3>Vacations, Like you're going to a vacation or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>And usually at some point, you know, you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>start thinking about home, you know, and that's yeah. And

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<v Speaker 2>once you start thinking about home, by the way, vacation's

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<v Speaker 2>about over.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're driving somewhere, you know a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>people in Pittsburgh drive down to you know, the outer Banks,

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<v Speaker 2>or they go to you know, the head the shore

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<v Speaker 2>down in Baltimore, or you know wherever they're going. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>once you pull into that driveway, man, once you start

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<v Speaker 2>to know you're almost home, it's a it's a good feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>And for these guys knowing that they're almost going to

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<v Speaker 2>be home. As great as camp is, it's got to

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<v Speaker 2>be a sense of release, not relief, but release, like let's.

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<v Speaker 3>Go yeah, no, it absolutely is.

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<v Speaker 4>And let's face it, you know, the NFL has has

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<v Speaker 4>a nice large partnership with a company called Sleep Number,

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm sure a lot of the players have those

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<v Speaker 4>Sleep Number beds so you can finally get back to

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<v Speaker 4>your cooling mattress or your hot mattress, whether your number

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<v Speaker 4>is seventy six or forty or whatever it is. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>they're looking forward to having those creature comforts of home

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<v Speaker 4>coming up. I mean, heck, I'm thinking about my creature

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<v Speaker 4>comforts of home. I've been away from my house for

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<v Speaker 4>almost a month now, so by the time I get home,

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<v Speaker 4>it'll be exactly one month. So I'm just I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>forward to that. But you know, we still got work

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<v Speaker 4>to do, so I had to kind of push it

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<v Speaker 4>off to the side, right, you know, hit the reminder

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<v Speaker 4>button on there, you know, like we have on your phones,

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<v Speaker 4>like reminder you snoozing that for another day. But you know,

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<v Speaker 4>this is one last padded practice, one last physical tune

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<v Speaker 4>up team on team before they see the Tampa Bay

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<v Speaker 4>Buccaneers in a group setting on Thursday in Afer Shore,

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<v Speaker 4>a closed off practice preceding their showdown on Saturday. So

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of familiar faces over on that Buccaneers sideline

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<v Speaker 4>that will be coming back to Akershore for the first

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<v Speaker 4>time in a while and I mean Larry Foot, Harold

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<v Speaker 4>Goodwin to name a few of the guys who were

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<v Speaker 4>four former Steelers players and coach that will be coming

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<v Speaker 4>back to aftershore.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it would strike me Max that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is another little test for being a professional. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>if this is your first time out at camp and

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<v Speaker 2>you're thinking, Hey, I got to get back into town.

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<v Speaker 2>I've got to you know, get an apartment set up

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<v Speaker 2>or what have you. If you haven't already done that,

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<v Speaker 2>find a place to live. Hopefully guys have already done that.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you're a veteran, you might be getting back

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<v Speaker 2>to your family, like you're talking about. But there's always

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<v Speaker 2>going to be something. There's always going to be a distraction.

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<v Speaker 2>There's always going to be a mental hurdle to overcome.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>They talk about that, and maybe the closest thing in

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<v Speaker 2>football will be a practice squad, but they talk about that,

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<v Speaker 2>particularly in baseball. Hey, they need to call this guy up.

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<v Speaker 2>He's getting bored down in the minors. Okay, well that's fine,

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<v Speaker 2>but that player's got to also push through that because

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<v Speaker 2>are you going to get bored in the majors. You're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna get bored in the NFL. You know, Yeah, you've

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<v Speaker 2>got to find there's always a mental challenge. It's always

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit different for every player. And this last

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<v Speaker 2>practice and walk through, keeping things crisp, keeping your mind

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<v Speaker 2>focused on the task at hand, pushing aside what you

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<v Speaker 2>really want, which is to start to a trope five hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>getting that car and head back to Pittsburgh tomorrow. Another

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<v Speaker 2>little mental challenge for the guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because can you keep that foot out of the

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<v Speaker 4>parking lot right for one last practice?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you get your attention so that you can focus

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<v Speaker 4>in laser focus for the two two and a half

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<v Speaker 4>hours that practice will be and then start worrying.

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<v Speaker 3>About packing up your bags.

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<v Speaker 4>And for a lot of guys, like you know, a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of guys are gonna go to the team hotel

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<v Speaker 4>and stay there because you know the future is uncertain.

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<v Speaker 4>But for the guys that do have a longer tenure,

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<v Speaker 4>or you are a higher rated draft pick, you know

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<v Speaker 4>you should have a space somewhere that's.

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<v Speaker 3>At least spoken for.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna say that you've moved in yet, right,

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<v Speaker 4>because you never want to assume anything.

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<v Speaker 3>But at least spoken for.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know, the moving date could be oh, let's

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<v Speaker 4>just call it a random number. August thirty first, right,

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<v Speaker 4>you know that you have that intent, but you have

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<v Speaker 4>a deal in place just to make sure. But a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of guys still don't know. You know, we talked

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<v Speaker 4>about this kinger like, you know, if you've got sixty

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<v Speaker 4>guys that you want to keep on this roster in

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<v Speaker 4>only fifty three spaces, you know, there's seven hearts who

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<v Speaker 4>are going to be broken momentarily until they find a

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<v Speaker 4>new home or they get re signed to the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 4>So you you don't want to count your chickens before

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<v Speaker 4>they're hatched and be presumptive. But I think if you

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<v Speaker 4>know you're TJ. Watt, you're Cam Hayward, you can go

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<v Speaker 4>back to your houses that you've lived in, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>for the better part of a decade or more. And

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Aaron Rodgers, he can go back to wherever

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<v Speaker 4>he wherever he has staked his claim as home for

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<v Speaker 4>the year his rental. You know, But there are a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of guys, you know, there's still that uncertainty. I mean,

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<v Speaker 4>if you're the fifth linebacker right now, you're not You're

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<v Speaker 4>not going back to an apartment, you know, if you

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<v Speaker 4>if you're if you're the ninth or tenth offensive lineman,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, seventh or eighth defensive lineman.

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<v Speaker 3>Like he was like, Nah, I'm gonna have to get

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<v Speaker 3>it for.

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<v Speaker 4>These next three exhibitions, we'll call it because we'll count

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<v Speaker 4>the joint practice as a mini game scrimmage type of deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Three exhibitions to to fall into the top group, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>to make your claim that I deserve to be a

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<v Speaker 4>Pittsburgh Steeler. That's what we're looking for. And that's that's

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<v Speaker 4>what the whole point of this is. That's why this exercise,

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<v Speaker 4>that's why you're having a padded practice for the last

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<v Speaker 4>one of open practices. To the fans, that's the moment

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<v Speaker 4>they're fighting for to continue that journey.

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<v Speaker 2>August twenty sixth, that's the day in which you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we're we're looking at the cutdowns, right, and which guys

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<v Speaker 2>are gonna be there, and which guys are going to

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<v Speaker 2>be on the uh, you know, practice squad, which guys

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<v Speaker 2>are going to be maybe claimed by other teams. There's

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<v Speaker 2>some of that that'll be going on there. There are

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be the guys who think they're on a roster spot,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you like another player, who's got another team better.

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<v Speaker 2>So hey, congratulations you made the team, or congratulations you

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<v Speaker 2>made the practice squad, and then maybe the next day

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<v Speaker 2>it's hey, I got bad news for you. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's uneasy times if you're an edge guy, if you're

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<v Speaker 2>a you know, if you're a fourth line player in

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<v Speaker 2>the NHL, if you're the last guy in a bullpen

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<v Speaker 2>in baseball, if you are you know, the eleventh man

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<v Speaker 2>and a basketball team, if you're the fifty third man

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<v Speaker 2>on an NFL roster, there's never there. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>there's too many nights where you're sleeping easy thinking you

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<v Speaker 2>got it made well.

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<v Speaker 4>And that's why I say the thirty first, because the

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<v Speaker 4>twenty six is the actual cutdown day.

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<v Speaker 3>With the five days after that, yeah, that's where the

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<v Speaker 3>attrition happens.

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<v Speaker 4>So don't put that deposit in until the thirty first,

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<v Speaker 4>Ladies and gentlemen, before you start staking home, make sure

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<v Speaker 4>that you're going into up timber you're still in that roster, because,

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<v Speaker 4>like you said, a lot of things can change. There's

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<v Speaker 4>thirty one other teams that are cleaning house as well

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<v Speaker 4>to cut down to fifty three. And then there's that

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<v Speaker 4>posturing for what I would even say fifty through fifty

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<v Speaker 4>three can change, Like you know, you're the if you're

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<v Speaker 4>the if you're not in that top forty six on

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<v Speaker 4>the list, it gets a little uneasy. But I would

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<v Speaker 4>say fifty through fifty three, those last four spots are

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<v Speaker 4>interchangeable pieces, right.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, we were looking at a roster ranking

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<v Speaker 2>and another one came out yesterday. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>this was the same one Wes, because there is one

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<v Speaker 2>here that that also that had and I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>if this was the same one. It does have the

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<v Speaker 2>quarterback in it. We were go faing because they had

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<v Speaker 2>this stoo there's ranked as the twenty second or twenty

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<v Speaker 2>third best roster. So I'm looking at another one by ESPN.

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<v Speaker 2>This one includes the quarterback. So yesterday to recap, Wes

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<v Speaker 2>found a ranking of the roster and the depth it.

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<v Speaker 2>This one is a future power rankings. We stacked all

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<v Speaker 2>thirty two teams long term expectations. I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>this is the same one that Wes was looking at.

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<v Speaker 2>Is Wes there, Yeah, it was just the same one West.

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<v Speaker 5>It might have been part of that piece. I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd have to look it up. I can go and

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<v Speaker 5>find what you're looking at right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so we have the quarterback at twenty percent, the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the roster at thirty percent, the front office

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<v Speaker 2>at twenty five percent, and the coaching at twenty five percent.

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<v Speaker 2>Now we know that ESPN thinks very highly of this

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<v Speaker 2>year's front office and coaching. I think WES found something

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<v Speaker 2>where they were ranked eighth, right, correct, So that's half

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<v Speaker 2>the battle. In half the battle, you're ranked eighth. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't get to the math that has you ranked twenty

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<v Speaker 2>second as the roster, but I also think that so

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<v Speaker 2>this is twenty five through twenty seven, which teams are

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<v Speaker 2>set up to win over the next three seasons a

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<v Speaker 2>somewhat fruitless exercise when you consider injuries, free agency, somebody emerging,

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<v Speaker 2>somebody not living up to expectations. I mean, this is

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<v Speaker 2>a tough This is tough, you know. But again on

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<v Speaker 2>this one, and this is Ben Solock, Lewis Riddick, Aaron Shatz,

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<v Speaker 2>and Seth Walder. So this is ranking for the next

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<v Speaker 2>three years and they have this Steelers. I'm shuttling down.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's twenty second on this list. Yeah, twenty second.

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<v Speaker 2>So now I can understand a little bit that they

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<v Speaker 2>would be critical of. Hey, you only have a one

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<v Speaker 2>year solution at the quarterback position, which again is thirty

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the battle Max. I still think they're wrong

0:12:49.520 --> 0:12:52.760
<v Speaker 2>on this Steelers' roster because I still think I think

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<v Speaker 2>that when you look at this team, they're a little

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<v Speaker 2>older on defense and they are on offense, but look

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<v Speaker 2>at what they've done. This is again, I just we

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<v Speaker 2>have to go back to this because we had we

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<v Speaker 2>were our Dandard was up a little bit yesterday. I

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<v Speaker 2>want to go back to this just for one segment

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<v Speaker 2>and then we'll move on. Because the Steelers way has

0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:13.760
<v Speaker 2>always been to build through the draft. Now they've been

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<v Speaker 2>more aggressive in free agency. And when I look at

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<v Speaker 2>guys who are signed for the next couple of years,

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<v Speaker 2>there's still guys in their prime. Deshaun Elliott's still in

0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.680
<v Speaker 2>his prime. Patrick Queen is still in his prime. You

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<v Speaker 2>just drafted young guys to bolster your defensive line. You

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<v Speaker 2>have you know, TJ. Watt signed for a couple more years.

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<v Speaker 2>They talk about aging roster, but he still remains productive.

0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:40.600
<v Speaker 2>You have Herbie behind him. You know, you're hoping Jack

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<v Speaker 2>Sawyer is going to be a guy. You only have

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<v Speaker 2>Darius slay for one year, but they have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of hopes I think for for Corey Trice and nobody.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, as any roster in the NFL, max

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<v Speaker 2>is set up for absolutely set up for three years

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<v Speaker 2>of success. I mean, that's a really hard measuring stick.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, you know, to glimpse far into the future.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I mean, it's a tough exercise, but you know

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<v Speaker 4>you got to have talking points, right right, Let me

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<v Speaker 4>guess the team that's up at the top of that list,

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<v Speaker 4>rob Let me guess, is it Philadelphia?

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<v Speaker 2>It's Philadelphia, of course, I think because I think this

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<v Speaker 2>is the same I think I feel like as a.

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<v Speaker 3>Philly grew No.

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<v Speaker 4>No, but I mean, but it kind of goes in

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<v Speaker 4>line with where the rankings were we were talking about

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<v Speaker 4>for this year's success, right right. You know they're all

0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.880
<v Speaker 4>in the same jockeying position. I'm sure you know. Lamar Jackson,

0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:31.960
<v Speaker 4>like Baltimore is up there in the top three as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Washington's probably up there as well if you extrapolate a.

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<v Speaker 3>Little bit longer.

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<v Speaker 4>Because of young quarterback play, So what quarterbacks are signed

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<v Speaker 4>long term?

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<v Speaker 2>Here's what they have here, so they have they break

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<v Speaker 2>them down by ranking so once again, uh, twenty percent

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<v Speaker 2>for quarterback, thirty percent for roster, twenty five percent for

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<v Speaker 2>front office, twenty five percent for coaching. So the Eagles

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<v Speaker 2>have overall roster minus QB number one, QB number eight,

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<v Speaker 2>coaching number ten. I think I'd be I think if

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<v Speaker 2>I was the ego's coaching staff, I'd be like, what

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<v Speaker 2>what do you mean number ten?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the run off they got poached. They've gotten poached.

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<v Speaker 4>So you can't depend on your coaches because usually they

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<v Speaker 4>go on to become head coaches elsewhere. Think of the

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<v Speaker 4>Lions right right, Dan Campbell, they would have been high,

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<v Speaker 4>but Ben Johnson and Aaron Glenn both both get posted

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<v Speaker 4>to be head coaches elsewhere.

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<v Speaker 3>So I mean I get that one for the coaching.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so here's where the Steelers are at number twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is where Wes. So this is a combined

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<v Speaker 2>ranking because Wes was telling us about the overall roster

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<v Speaker 2>minus QB ranked, they had the Steelers ranked twenty third.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that that was our gutting point. That that got

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<v Speaker 4>our that got our uh yeah, that was our that

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<v Speaker 4>got our browns furled.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just a little bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was our number one complaint, especially for this year,

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<v Speaker 2>like I could see, okay, maybe the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I get it, you know you don't. You don't

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<v Speaker 3>have an Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 4>After this year's solution, you're gonna have to go find

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<v Speaker 4>another quarterback.

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<v Speaker 3>But again, minus QB, minus QB, that's what I say.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, I get, I get that, but it's just

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<v Speaker 4>it's so weird for this year, like with Jalen Ramsey

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<v Speaker 4>and with dk Metcalf and and with like you said.

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<v Speaker 2>Darius slay One thorn Hill.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, you have so many different and you have

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<v Speaker 4>a super young offensive line exactly that's here for the

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<v Speaker 4>next three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So you have you have the offensive line. So

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna you're gonna be missing Somala. Well, everybody's gonna

0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.160
<v Speaker 2>be missing somebody. You you have a you have a place,

0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:41.400
<v Speaker 2>a very plausible replacement, and then you can go get

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<v Speaker 2>more guys in the draft. Right, and again we're not

0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:46.200
<v Speaker 2>talking about the quarterback position. You trade it for dk

0:16:46.280 --> 0:16:48.280
<v Speaker 2>met guy, then you signed him to a long term deal.

0:16:48.320 --> 0:16:50.960
<v Speaker 2>He's still in his prime. So and then you drafted

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<v Speaker 2>Caleb Johnson at the running back position, and your your

0:16:54.360 --> 0:16:57.400
<v Speaker 2>receivers are young, you're hoping Roman Wilson emerges.

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<v Speaker 4>And you know so that you got two young guys,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean Calvin Austin as well. You tighten you hope

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<v Speaker 4>he eop he hope he comes into his.

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<v Speaker 3>Own right, Your tight ends are fine? Right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>You know so, uh so most of that offense minus

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<v Speaker 2>the quarterback. And again, and that's not part of this exercise.

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<v Speaker 2>They're here through twenty three, right or twenty twenty seven

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<v Speaker 2>through twenty seven, Yeah, the next three years.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so they're here through twenty seven for the next

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<v Speaker 2>three years. So that's shaping up pretty solid. Remember again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this is no quarterback, right yeah. And then defensively,

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<v Speaker 2>they're talking about the aging guys. Well, okay, so if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to say, hey, three years from now, you

0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:39.880
<v Speaker 2>know Cam Hayward's not gonna be the same player, or

0:17:39.960 --> 0:17:45.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, you know Darius Slay is going to be gone. Okay, Well,

0:17:45.800 --> 0:17:49.040
<v Speaker 2>you signed TJ. Watt to an extension that keeps him here.

0:17:49.840 --> 0:17:51.399
<v Speaker 2>You have high Smith on the other side, you have

0:17:51.400 --> 0:17:53.960
<v Speaker 2>herbig backing them up this year. There's way is to

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<v Speaker 2>draft young guys. So you got it. You got a

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<v Speaker 2>Jack Sawyer. We'll see if he's a guy who's capable

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<v Speaker 2>of emerging as a good pass rusher. The D line.

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<v Speaker 2>You short up your D line should be they'll continue

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<v Speaker 2>to add to that. But that's in pretty good shape.

0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:14.119
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Ramsey's here for another couple of years. Joey Porter junior,

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<v Speaker 2>you should be able to, you know, hopefully keep here

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<v Speaker 2>for a few more years. Again, this sort of notion

0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.720
<v Speaker 2>that it's an aging roster. Maybe in a couple of spots.

0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:25.840
<v Speaker 2>I think the defense, the defense is what I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>more mature, but I don't think that's a bad thing.

0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.639
<v Speaker 2>They should be at their prime. I think this is

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<v Speaker 2>how Max. This is kind of how it goes around

0:18:35.480 --> 0:18:39.159
<v Speaker 2>the NFL, right, Like you you know, one unit is

0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:43.119
<v Speaker 2>generally speaking going to be younger than the other. You know,

0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:45.720
<v Speaker 2>you put your money into something and then you know

0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you're drafting or or a position group. You're drafting younger guys.

0:18:49.680 --> 0:18:52.080
<v Speaker 2>So those younger guys are on rookie deals. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the best time to have that. You know,

0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:56.280
<v Speaker 2>that quarterback is if he hits it big young man.

0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.359
<v Speaker 2>You got him on a rookie deal for a few years.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't have to pay him fifty million dollar a

0:19:00.359 --> 0:19:02.399
<v Speaker 2>year now you can sprinkle that around the rest of

0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:07.680
<v Speaker 2>your roster. So roster construction, you know, units one aging

0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:10.800
<v Speaker 2>one younger. Okay, so you know maybe you know, I

0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.160
<v Speaker 2>think they'll continue to draft offensive lineman probably every year.

0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:16.840
<v Speaker 2>You certainly are going to have to go out, it

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<v Speaker 2>would seem, and go get a quarterback. You know, that's

0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:22.359
<v Speaker 2>something they've talked about, a young quarterback. But you know,

0:19:22.440 --> 0:19:26.200
<v Speaker 2>that's how it works, you know what I mean, That's

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<v Speaker 2>how you go out and you get a guy. And

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<v Speaker 2>then again we're talking about the non quarterback position. I

0:19:32.160 --> 0:19:34.480
<v Speaker 2>look at the rest of the roster. I think it's

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<v Speaker 2>set up well for the next three years. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think it's set up like the twenty second the twenty

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<v Speaker 2>third best roster for the next three years.

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<v Speaker 3>I just I don't see it.

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<v Speaker 2>Max.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like they got the ranking confused with our

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<v Speaker 4>draft position, right, because that's usually the race we're usually

0:19:50.400 --> 0:19:52.440
<v Speaker 4>drafting somewhere between eighteen and twenty three.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, I mean, that's how it's been.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't get because you're saying, now, if we're the

0:19:57.600 --> 0:20:01.400
<v Speaker 4>twenty second best roster, let's inverse that right with draft order.

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<v Speaker 4>So you're saying we're going to be a top ten

0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:06.520
<v Speaker 4>drafting team in three years. That's that's what they're saying.

0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.560
<v Speaker 2>That's what that's what the twenty two overall score is saying.

0:20:09.600 --> 0:20:13.480
<v Speaker 2>Is that pretty soon? And so again the bold prediction.

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<v Speaker 2>The Steelers will finish with five or fewer wins in

0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:21.200
<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty seven. After an unsuccessful twenty twenty five campaign

0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:23.520
<v Speaker 2>with Rogers. They will make an ill fated attempt to

0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 2>compete again in twenty twenty six with an aging roster.

0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:30.040
<v Speaker 2>After that fails, they will finally commit to the teardown

0:20:30.080 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 2>and rebuild in twenty twenty seven. Once again, this is

0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:37.800
<v Speaker 2>coming from ESPN and reading that verbatim, five or fewer

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:44.160
<v Speaker 2>wins in twenty twenty seven went back to the ninth

0:20:44.200 --> 0:20:48.480
<v Speaker 2>were finished with five to the early nineties to find that, well,

0:20:48.520 --> 0:20:50.320
<v Speaker 2>I think you have to go back further than that. Yeah,

0:20:50.359 --> 0:20:52.760
<v Speaker 2>probably the eighties. What, Yeah, I would have to I'd

0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:53.600
<v Speaker 2>have to look that up.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

0:20:54.760 --> 0:20:58.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure Westteler is feverishly looking up the last time

0:20:58.080 --> 0:21:01.159
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers had five or fewer wins. It's been a while.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it happening.

0:21:03.600 --> 0:21:06.800
<v Speaker 3>I mean, And that's my thing, is, like, how brash.

0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:07.439
<v Speaker 2>You have to be here.

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:08.480
<v Speaker 3>How much do you have to.

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<v Speaker 4>Dislike the Steelers to put that down when it hasn't

0:21:12.480 --> 0:21:17.280
<v Speaker 4>happened in two decades. Yeah, last time we had six

0:21:17.359 --> 0:21:19.439
<v Speaker 4>wins and that was a six and ten season was

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<v Speaker 4>two thousand and.

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<v Speaker 3>Three, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>And again after nineteen eighty eight, now eighty eight, ninety.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight, after an unsuccessful twenty twenty six years old pain

0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:37.959
<v Speaker 2>with Rogers. I don't I don't see that premise again.

0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>I look at this roster and you think, okay, well,

0:21:41.840 --> 0:21:45.399
<v Speaker 2>Dan Moore's out, Okay, I understand that that's a loss,

0:21:45.400 --> 0:21:48.720
<v Speaker 2>and Najie Harris is out. Well, you drafted a quarterback

0:21:49.080 --> 0:21:51.919
<v Speaker 2>or you drafted a running back, you signed a running

0:21:51.920 --> 0:21:54.640
<v Speaker 2>back and gain well, a lot of people thought Jaalen

0:21:54.680 --> 0:21:57.440
<v Speaker 2>should right or wrong should have been the running back. Anyway,

0:21:57.720 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 2>it feels like that's pretty well covered. And then you're

0:22:00.520 --> 0:22:06.159
<v Speaker 2>moving your your number one draft pick to left tackle,

0:22:06.200 --> 0:22:09.959
<v Speaker 2>where he's the position you drafted to being. And then

0:22:10.000 --> 0:22:12.679
<v Speaker 2>the right tackle is the guy who didn't play at

0:22:12.720 --> 0:22:16.199
<v Speaker 2>all last year and had already beaten out, uh you know,

0:22:16.240 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>and was going to start at right tackle. And then

0:22:18.560 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 2>you've had a first round draft pick as well, so

0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:26.359
<v Speaker 2>that sounds to me like kind of a wash. And

0:22:26.400 --> 0:22:28.800
<v Speaker 2>again we're not talking about well, we are now talking

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:32.479
<v Speaker 2>about successful unsuccessful. You're bringing Aaron Rodgers. It's hard for

0:22:32.480 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>me not to think of that as an upgrade. You

0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:38.240
<v Speaker 2>have dk Metcalf instead of Pickings, and you have John

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.960
<v Speaker 2>new Smith. Now I'm trying to think of how that's

0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:44.080
<v Speaker 2>worse than last year. Maybe it will be, but I'm

0:22:44.160 --> 0:22:47.760
<v Speaker 2>having a hard time. You're like, I'm like, you know,

0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:50.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm the Vasco Godama de Gama of thoughts. I'm trying

0:22:50.920 --> 0:22:53.480
<v Speaker 2>to explore why that makes sense. It doesn't make any

0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:56.560
<v Speaker 2>sense to me. And then on defense, And on defense,

0:22:57.040 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>you added, uh, you know, a starter last year in

0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:04.639
<v Speaker 2>a quality in your defensive line, drafted two guys on

0:23:04.680 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 2>your defensive line. Get Cole Holcomb back, sign another linebacker,

0:23:10.359 --> 0:23:16.480
<v Speaker 2>pick up you know too, all pro cornerbacks. You lost

0:23:16.480 --> 0:23:20.399
<v Speaker 2>Minkah Fitzpatrick. I'm still trying to figure out how that's worse.

0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:22.800
<v Speaker 2>And they went to the playoffs last year.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm trying to.

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<v Speaker 2>Figure out how that's going to be an unsuccessful season.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's why they play the games. Max will find

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<v Speaker 2>out soon enough, won't.

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<v Speaker 3>We Yeah, we will.

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<v Speaker 4>And I think, you know, this is an exercise of

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<v Speaker 4>you know, three years, even though I still am disappointed

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<v Speaker 4>with a one year snapshot.

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<v Speaker 2>After an unsuccessful twenty twenty five campaign.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they think that it'll be well, they didn't put

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<v Speaker 4>a win total to that one. They're just saying it

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<v Speaker 4>won't be assex and we don't know what that successful means.

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<v Speaker 4>True that that's just a very gray area, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>because are you saying successful as a super Bowl victory

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<v Speaker 4>or you saying winning a first round game in the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 4>Like I like, that's that's a very gray area that

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<v Speaker 4>they don't really kind of expound upon. But at the

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<v Speaker 4>same time, when we're looking at this three year snapshot,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like, oh, they're gonna go for it all again

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty six, and that's when they're gonna get the

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<v Speaker 4>five wins. And it's like that hasn't been five wins

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<v Speaker 4>in almost forty years.

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty twenty seven, they're gonna they got five wins. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's seay know, let's see where do they have the

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<v Speaker 2>five wins.

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<v Speaker 4>I took it as twenty twenty six would be the

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<v Speaker 4>five win season, which would then commit to the rebuild

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<v Speaker 4>in twenty twenty seven.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, that's why I thought, I don't.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see that, and I don't see that ever

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<v Speaker 2>being you know this to you, there's way no, I

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<v Speaker 2>just not.

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<v Speaker 4>But I think they also overweighted a lot of these

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<v Speaker 4>one year contract deals and thinking that they're gonna lose

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of pieces after this season and then oh,

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<v Speaker 4>you're not gonna hit these moonshots like you did year ago.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's like, but now it's the moonshofts right now,

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<v Speaker 4>Like those moonshots could turn the long, longer term contracts.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I'll say one more thing because we are

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<v Speaker 2>we we're getting you know, I'm gonna say one more

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<v Speaker 2>thing because we're grossly heavy. We uh. I mean as

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<v Speaker 2>a as a program here, Max, Yes, well as a segment,

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<v Speaker 2>not a program as a segments. So we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>take a break. I have one more thought to share

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<v Speaker 2>with Max on the subject. We're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the scrimmage coming up on Thursday. So lots to get

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<v Speaker 2>Man. We welcomed me back inside the locker room with

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<v Speaker 2>here on the Steelers Audio network, and uh, you know

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<v Speaker 2>the point I was going to make, and we're one

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<v Speaker 2>more time. We're crashing about this. This ranking of the

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<v Speaker 2>Steelers by ESPN, they ranked him as the twenty second

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<v Speaker 2>best roster in the Futures moving Forward twenty five, twenty six,

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty seven. So they they break it down, what does

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<v Speaker 2>your overall roster look like, what does your quarterback look like?

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<v Speaker 2>How do you rank your front office? How do you

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<v Speaker 2>rank your coaching? Front office ranks thirteenth, coaching ranks eighth. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>my I believe in a couple of years, Max, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>what's gonna happen If I'm going to look into my

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<v Speaker 2>crystal ball kind of looking crystal ball?

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<v Speaker 3>Sure, why not? Okay, I'm going to look into my crystal.

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<v Speaker 2>Ball, and I'm going to say the Steelers are going

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<v Speaker 2>to do what Kansas City did. And I don't remember

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<v Speaker 2>where Kansas City was supposed to draft when they got

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<v Speaker 2>Patrick Mahomes. I don't remember what their draft.

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<v Speaker 6>I want to say they were twelve and four and

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<v Speaker 6>won the division.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but they were yeah, they were further back.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to say they were like a nineteen to

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<v Speaker 2>twenty position.

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<v Speaker 4>And they jumped in front of the Arizona Cardinals to

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<v Speaker 4>take Patrick Mahomes.

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<v Speaker 5>Because that was the year they lost to the Steelers

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<v Speaker 5>in the Boswell Ice Game.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, eighteen to seventeen or whatever the final score was.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And so they made the jump in front because

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<v Speaker 4>they knew the Cardinals needed a quarterback and they jumped

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<v Speaker 4>in front of them because they knew Patrick Mahomes was

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<v Speaker 4>going to go there.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to say they jumped up maybe fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>or fifteen tenth oh tent was it ten? Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Oh, they made the big So they traded with Buffalo Buffalo,

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<v Speaker 5>I was picking tenth. Kansas City sent their first round

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<v Speaker 5>pick twenty seventh overall and their third round seventh, twenty

0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.640
<v Speaker 5>seventh where they were picking further yep, and their ninety

0:28:09.720 --> 0:28:12.199
<v Speaker 5>first overall pick in the third round, as well as

0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:14.040
<v Speaker 5>their first round pick in twenty eighteen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, and the bill they created that the Bills, the

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:20.200
<v Speaker 2>Bills moved down. They got the twenty seventh pick, so

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>they the Bills, the.

0:28:22.320 --> 0:28:24.399
<v Speaker 6>Bills used that capital to go get Josh Allen the

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<v Speaker 6>following year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they got a third, They got a third in

0:28:26.680 --> 0:28:33.760
<v Speaker 2>the first Right. So, so, by the way, in my

0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.800
<v Speaker 2>in my never ending uh and feudal attempt to clean

0:28:37.880 --> 0:28:40.280
<v Speaker 2>up our English language, which has resulted, by the way,

0:28:40.320 --> 0:28:43.120
<v Speaker 2>for those who are listening with us, no longer describing

0:28:43.200 --> 0:28:47.320
<v Speaker 2>vanilla offenses. That's vanilla sic. Yeah, basic, we're saving that

0:28:47.400 --> 0:28:51.320
<v Speaker 2>for flavoring. I am on a one man crusade to

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<v Speaker 2>call draft capital simply draft picks. Is that we got

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<v Speaker 2>anybody on board.

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<v Speaker 4>On that or that like draft that's fair because that's

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.280
<v Speaker 4>actually the layman term for that.

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<v Speaker 6>No, no, sorry, I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Capital.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, it makes me sound smarter than I actually am.

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<v Speaker 4>That makes you sound like an investment advice exactly.

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<v Speaker 6>You sound like a day trader, all right, Like I'm

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<v Speaker 6>in the big short over here.

0:29:14.640 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I can't keep up. I can't keep up with the

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<v Speaker 2>linguistic changes. Okay, so that's a one man crusade. So

0:29:20.880 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>what I was going to get back become capital. Capital

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<v Speaker 2>does not become picks. Boom, thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>So well, you can say picks and it equals capital.

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<v Speaker 2>Later, I prefer to say picks.

0:29:33.920 --> 0:29:35.000
<v Speaker 3>That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 4>That's why you would use picks first, and then I

0:29:37.760 --> 0:29:41.800
<v Speaker 4>understand those picks are capital for a team, you see, exactly,

0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:43.760
<v Speaker 4>So I mean it's okay to say picks.

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<v Speaker 2>We're working on it. Yeah, I'd like to think we'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to the we'll get to the phase where it's

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<v Speaker 2>no longer draft capital. Anyway, So when we're looking at

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<v Speaker 2>the when we're looking at the Steelers and what they've accomplished,

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<v Speaker 2>and we're looking at the other teams around the NF

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<v Speaker 2>and what they've accomplished, I don't know, as there's another

0:30:05.280 --> 0:30:09.440
<v Speaker 2>team that's accomplished what the students have accomplished, and people

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 2>are like, well I did accomplished anything, they haven't won

0:30:11.480 --> 0:30:14.600
<v Speaker 2>on another Lombardi Trophy. Okay, let's just talk about what

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:18.200
<v Speaker 2>they have done where they've gotten to what their record

0:30:18.320 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 2>is without that combination of you know, quarterback in his

0:30:24.120 --> 0:30:28.200
<v Speaker 2>prime and good enough roster around him. It's been a

0:30:28.360 --> 0:30:31.320
<v Speaker 2>while since the Steelers have had that combination. I can't

0:30:31.360 --> 0:30:36.280
<v Speaker 2>think of another team that has lacked that combination that's

0:30:36.280 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>still been able to even get into the playoffs. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that was the point I was going to make. And

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<v Speaker 2>I wanted to bring up the Mahomes thing because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>there's this belief out there that you have to be

0:30:52.360 --> 0:30:54.960
<v Speaker 2>terrible to go get the number one quarterback, right, you

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:57.800
<v Speaker 2>have to draft that guy. And by the way, that's

0:30:57.920 --> 0:31:01.240
<v Speaker 2>no assurance, right, you might get a you might be

0:31:01.400 --> 0:31:03.720
<v Speaker 2>terrible in a year. Like a couple of years ago,

0:31:03.960 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers drafted Kenny Pickett. They were hoping he's going

0:31:06.280 --> 0:31:08.160
<v Speaker 2>to be the guy. I don't know if there's a

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<v Speaker 2>franchise quarterback that came out of that draft. Is there? No?

0:31:12.560 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Not one? Right?

0:31:13.880 --> 0:31:20.680
<v Speaker 2>So, and then looky Trac I mean, and then Lea Willis,

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>and then look at all of the you know, just

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:29.320
<v Speaker 2>in recent history, now Bryce Young has started to play better. Right,

0:31:29.640 --> 0:31:31.080
<v Speaker 2>he came on at the end of last year. We're

0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>going to see him in a couple of weeks. But

0:31:33.640 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 2>you know, the guy down in Houston and was like, well,

0:31:36.040 --> 0:31:37.640
<v Speaker 2>that should have been the number one pick you had.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:39.960
<v Speaker 2>You had to pick of everybody, and you took the

0:31:40.040 --> 0:31:42.640
<v Speaker 2>wrong guy. People were saying that for a while about

0:31:42.680 --> 0:31:44.560
<v Speaker 2>Baker Mayfield. Well, Baker Mayfield might have just been in

0:31:44.560 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>the wrong situation. And again, whether he is that guy.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Is Baker that guy that elevates a team and becomes

0:31:51.880 --> 0:31:54.720
<v Speaker 2>an elite level quarterback, I'm not sure about that. He

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 2>is a good player, and I think that the Browns

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>did a good job trading him in a bad job

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.640
<v Speaker 2>getting rid of him, a good job drafting him at

0:32:02.640 --> 0:32:04.480
<v Speaker 2>a bad job getting rid of m I should say.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 2>The point is it's very difficult and to win without that.

0:32:09.240 --> 0:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>And the other point is you just look at them

0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.440
<v Speaker 2>home straight. You do not have to be terrible to

0:32:16.520 --> 0:32:20.000
<v Speaker 2>get a franchise quarterback. What you have to do if

0:32:20.040 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 2>you're a team like the Steelers, who I believe are

0:32:22.760 --> 0:32:25.400
<v Speaker 2>going to have another good season this year and are

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:28.160
<v Speaker 2>going to be drafting late in the first round. Once again,

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.640
<v Speaker 2>what you have to do is do what the Chiefs

0:32:32.680 --> 0:32:34.760
<v Speaker 2>did and what I don't know. There's a lot of

0:32:34.840 --> 0:32:38.880
<v Speaker 2>examples of this. But trade up and get your guy,

0:32:39.640 --> 0:32:42.920
<v Speaker 2>and then if he's the right guy, it doesn't matter

0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>what you gave up for. It doesn't matter. I mean,

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:48.840
<v Speaker 2>you give up this year's first, you give up next

0:32:48.920 --> 0:32:51.400
<v Speaker 2>year's first, you give up this year's third, maybe give

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 2>up next year's third. It doesn't matter. If he's the

0:32:55.120 --> 0:32:58.840
<v Speaker 2>right guy. It's the position is that important to the

0:32:58.960 --> 0:33:00.240
<v Speaker 2>success of an NFL team.

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>So you don't have to tank.

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.480
<v Speaker 2>You don't have to quote unquote finally commit to a rebuild.

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 2>You just have to And I think this too. This

0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:11.680
<v Speaker 2>has done a good job of this. They've put the

0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>roster in pretty good shape. And think about I think

0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:18.480
<v Speaker 2>about if they did this next year, Right, we're gonna

0:33:18.480 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 2>go out and get this. We're gonna go out and

0:33:20.560 --> 0:33:22.440
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna trade up. We're gonna trade all our picks,

0:33:22.920 --> 0:33:26.840
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna get a rookie quarterback. Okay, so if

0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.920
<v Speaker 2>you're a rookie quarterback. Now the Bears now are trying

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:33.080
<v Speaker 2>to help Jade and Daniels there. Now they've bolstered up

0:33:33.160 --> 0:33:35.560
<v Speaker 2>the offensive line and they've made all these moves, right,

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.480
<v Speaker 2>that's what That's what it looks like when you're terrible

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 2>and you draft a quarterback Bryce Young taking his lumps

0:33:42.880 --> 0:33:47.400
<v Speaker 2>down in Carolina, right, because you were terrible, So that

0:33:47.560 --> 0:33:50.480
<v Speaker 2>allowed you to get the quarterback you wanted. Now you

0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 2>have to build the rest of the team around him,

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.960
<v Speaker 2>so this guy is not emotionally shattered for the rest

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.920
<v Speaker 2>of his career or physically shattered because you can't block four.

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:03.400
<v Speaker 2>Right now, think about what the Chiefs did. The Chiefs

0:34:03.560 --> 0:34:06.120
<v Speaker 2>already had a good team and they traded up and

0:34:06.200 --> 0:34:09.600
<v Speaker 2>got Patrick Mahomes. Think about what the Steelers have built

0:34:09.640 --> 0:34:12.000
<v Speaker 2>here if they decide to go this route next year.

0:34:12.000 --> 0:34:16.719
<v Speaker 2>And this is all academic exercise of what might happen. Okay, well,

0:34:16.719 --> 0:34:18.600
<v Speaker 2>you're going to walk into a situation where you have

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:23.160
<v Speaker 2>a number one receiver, other options, three good tight ends,

0:34:24.600 --> 0:34:27.359
<v Speaker 2>four fifths of an offensive line for sure, maybe even

0:34:27.400 --> 0:34:30.359
<v Speaker 2>the entire offensive line, a second year running back, two

0:34:30.440 --> 0:34:33.560
<v Speaker 2>other running backs. What's a better situation for a young

0:34:33.640 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 2>quarterback to enter? How would you prefer to win with

0:34:38.239 --> 0:34:41.840
<v Speaker 2>that door or the other door that's been in Chicago

0:34:41.960 --> 0:34:44.400
<v Speaker 2>and Carolina, where now you have to backfill that roster

0:34:44.840 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 2>because you got that guy by dint of being terrible.

0:34:50.760 --> 0:34:52.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I agree.

0:34:52.280 --> 0:34:54.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean I think you know you always want to

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 4>try and be a year ahead of the curve. I

0:34:56.600 --> 0:35:00.759
<v Speaker 4>mean that was what always Kevin Colbert's philosophy was was

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.120
<v Speaker 4>to you know, you want to you know, and Bill

0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:06.840
<v Speaker 4>Belichick famously said this, right, I would rather let a

0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:10.200
<v Speaker 4>guy go a year early than to hold on to

0:35:10.320 --> 0:35:13.040
<v Speaker 4>him a year too long. Right, So you know, and

0:35:13.200 --> 0:35:16.080
<v Speaker 4>even in you know, the Kansas City experiments so to speak, Right,

0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:18.880
<v Speaker 4>Alex Smith wasn't wasn't a bad quarterback.

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:19.840
<v Speaker 3>He's still in his prime.

0:35:20.719 --> 0:35:22.719
<v Speaker 4>But you went and you still got Patrick mahonmes because

0:35:22.719 --> 0:35:25.040
<v Speaker 4>you knew eventually you're gonna have to replace Alex Smith, right,

0:35:25.200 --> 0:35:27.200
<v Speaker 4>you needed somebody who's gonna be an X factor, and

0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:30.680
<v Speaker 4>you didn't mind having him sit. Aaron Rodgers behind Brett

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:34.480
<v Speaker 4>farre Right, he sat before Drew Brees, you know, was

0:35:34.560 --> 0:35:37.759
<v Speaker 4>there before Philip Rivers got there. You know the Green

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.720
<v Speaker 4>Bay now right, Yeah, Jordan loves Jordan there and waited,

0:35:42.040 --> 0:35:44.480
<v Speaker 4>So you know, you'd like to have that type of

0:35:44.600 --> 0:35:46.480
<v Speaker 4>essnsion because look at let's face it, I mean when

0:35:46.520 --> 0:35:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you think about Green Bay when they brought Brett fav

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 4>Up there. They have sequentially done it right. They've they've

0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 4>stuck with their pick, groomed him. You got him a

0:35:57.719 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 4>little bit early. You know, you picked banana while it's

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:02.880
<v Speaker 4>still green. You don't get it while it's yellow, at

0:36:02.920 --> 0:36:06.480
<v Speaker 4>the height of ripeness, and they waited for it to

0:36:06.600 --> 0:36:08.360
<v Speaker 4>mature and then they made the move to move on.

0:36:10.120 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 2>That's what That's the luxury you would love to have.

0:36:12.960 --> 0:36:16.840
<v Speaker 4>But fortunately, the way that teams are constructed now and

0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the way that coaches have to win now, so you

0:36:19.560 --> 0:36:24.040
<v Speaker 4>can't really have that type of comfortability, so to speak,

0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:27.080
<v Speaker 4>where you could draft for the future knowing that your

0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:27.880
<v Speaker 4>job is secure.

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Now.

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:30.880
<v Speaker 4>The Steelers have been in a blessed position having the

0:36:30.960 --> 0:36:34.440
<v Speaker 4>same coach for eighteen plus years going into a nineteenth year.

0:36:34.920 --> 0:36:35.560
<v Speaker 3>You can do that.

0:36:35.719 --> 0:36:37.400
<v Speaker 4>You could have done that, but you also have been

0:36:37.440 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 4>in his prime right, you know, for a majority of them.

0:36:41.880 --> 0:36:45.359
<v Speaker 4>You know he had first fifteen years, you had been Roethlisberger,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:48.040
<v Speaker 4>and you didn't have anything to worry about, and then

0:36:48.080 --> 0:36:49.680
<v Speaker 4>you did try and go get those guys, and look,

0:36:49.760 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 4>Mason Rudolph is still in this roster right, but he

0:36:52.800 --> 0:36:56.480
<v Speaker 4>wasn't necessarily the starter that we wanted, but he's been

0:36:57.400 --> 0:37:01.960
<v Speaker 4>a valuable pick from twenty eighteen. You know, he's been here,

0:37:02.080 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 4>he's gone in, he's won you games, he's gotten you

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:06.520
<v Speaker 4>to the playoffs, he's shown that he can be that

0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.800
<v Speaker 4>quality guy just as a backup. Hitting a starting quarterback

0:37:09.840 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 4>that's gonna be a franchise guy for twenty years is

0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.480
<v Speaker 4>essentially like trying to throw a dart twenty five yards

0:37:15.600 --> 0:37:18.920
<v Speaker 4>in the dark and trying to hit a bullseye. Right, right, Well,

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.920
<v Speaker 4>that's about how futile the exercise is. And I think

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.279
<v Speaker 4>that's the toughest part that we kind of extrapolate, and

0:37:24.360 --> 0:37:25.920
<v Speaker 4>that's why we see these numbers that we do.

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:29.200
<v Speaker 2>And I agree, and I think that you know, if

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:34.520
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers go down that road of trading everything to

0:37:34.600 --> 0:37:38.239
<v Speaker 2>get the franchise quarterback, and my statement was, if it's

0:37:38.320 --> 0:37:40.520
<v Speaker 2>the right guy, it doesn't matter what you gave up,

0:37:40.560 --> 0:37:43.560
<v Speaker 2>And I think that's true. If it's the wrong guy,

0:37:44.160 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 2>it matters very much what you gave up, right, because

0:37:47.920 --> 0:37:51.040
<v Speaker 2>now you've given up this year's first, next year's first,

0:37:51.200 --> 0:37:54.560
<v Speaker 2>this year's third, next year's third. Right now you have

0:37:55.360 --> 0:37:59.400
<v Speaker 2>set your ability back to go back out again and

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.279
<v Speaker 2>try to get that guy Now, there's other ways you

0:38:02.320 --> 0:38:05.040
<v Speaker 2>can maybe get a guy in free agency, but when's

0:38:05.040 --> 0:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>the last time a franchise quarterback has hit free agency?

0:38:09.040 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 2>Teams don't allow those guys to slip away. So you know,

0:38:12.880 --> 0:38:14.879
<v Speaker 2>and here's the other thing too, that you know, as

0:38:14.960 --> 0:38:17.520
<v Speaker 2>long as other places are making bold predictions, I will

0:38:17.560 --> 0:38:19.719
<v Speaker 2>make this prediction. You know, if the Steelers go out

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 2>and get that guy next year. Let's say they go

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:24.640
<v Speaker 2>out and and make this trade, and they go out

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:27.640
<v Speaker 2>and get that guy, right, that front office ranking for

0:38:27.719 --> 0:38:31.759
<v Speaker 2>the Steelers is going to be completely re evaluated. People

0:38:31.760 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 2>are going to look up and say, whoa man they

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 2>traded for Metcalf. Hey, look what they did with the

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.480
<v Speaker 2>offensive line. Boy, that Caleb Johnson's pretty good. Hey, they

0:38:39.520 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 2>really did a nice job of regenerating your defense. Boy,

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.839
<v Speaker 2>this is a pretty good front office.

0:38:44.239 --> 0:38:44.440
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:38:44.800 --> 0:38:46.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's that's just the way it's gonna go.

0:38:47.400 --> 0:38:53.080
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Max, I think that even though I'd listen, man,

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:55.440
<v Speaker 2>I could talk about this subject for a week, I

0:38:55.600 --> 0:38:56.920
<v Speaker 2>do think we need to move on.

0:38:57.280 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:38:57.920 --> 0:39:01.160
<v Speaker 2>We haven't talked about Saturday's game, and I know you

0:39:01.239 --> 0:39:03.400
<v Speaker 2>have guys you want to talk about. I'd love to

0:39:03.440 --> 0:39:06.400
<v Speaker 2>look back to Saturday's game. I'd love to look forward

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.920
<v Speaker 2>to Thursday scrimmage. Yes, good, okay, good, We're gonna do

0:39:11.160 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff. We're gonna begin to do all

0:39:13.040 --> 0:39:15.719
<v Speaker 2>that stuff when we continue next on the Locker Room

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<v Speaker 2>And we welcome back inside the Locker Room with Kings

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0:40:02.320 --> 0:40:06.759
<v Speaker 2>Steelers Audio Network. So we have made our feelings known

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:10.279
<v Speaker 2>about the rankings of the Steelers' roster for twenty five

0:40:10.360 --> 0:40:14.440
<v Speaker 2>through twenty seven by the Worldwide Leader in Sports. We

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:16.680
<v Speaker 2>disagree with it, but they're entitled to their opinion, and

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:20.719
<v Speaker 2>I have said that I will apologize to them if

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.839
<v Speaker 2>they're right at the end of the season. Yeah.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:25.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I'm going to, but.

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.719
<v Speaker 4>Technically that work for him, so you know, I'll just

0:40:29.840 --> 0:40:35.399
<v Speaker 4>I'll just be like shucks, you know, understood, but work.

0:40:35.520 --> 0:40:37.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, that will work. I don't know if I

0:40:37.920 --> 0:40:39.279
<v Speaker 3>can give them me a kopa. But yeah.

0:40:40.200 --> 0:40:43.360
<v Speaker 2>We have not a ton of time left in this segment.

0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:47.000
<v Speaker 2>But again too, our two will be we have our

0:40:47.480 --> 0:40:51.719
<v Speaker 2>review to review. Give us your quick assessment of what

0:40:51.920 --> 0:40:56.239
<v Speaker 2>you thought of the Steelers' performance in the first preseason

0:40:56.400 --> 0:41:01.479
<v Speaker 2>game against Jacksonville on Saturday night at Jacksonville. And again

0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:06.239
<v Speaker 2>keep in mind that Jacksonville played their starters. They had

0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.800
<v Speaker 2>a starter down on each side due to injury, so

0:41:08.920 --> 0:41:12.160
<v Speaker 2>they went ten starters on each side. The Steelers went

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:17.680
<v Speaker 2>four starters on offense and two on defense. I believe

0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.399
<v Speaker 2>was the number that we came up with. So your

0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:23.920
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on on what you saw, you know, just give

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.240
<v Speaker 2>us a brief overview, and then after that brief overview,

0:41:27.320 --> 0:41:30.000
<v Speaker 2>we will get into the next hour specific guys that

0:41:30.120 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>you liked and you thought stood out and that you

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 2>thought helped themselves.

0:41:34.160 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 3>All right.

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Here here's the briefest overview I can give a performance

0:41:39.560 --> 0:41:42.800
<v Speaker 4>solid highlight depth.

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:45.120
<v Speaker 3>They're good.

0:41:45.360 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 2>No, oh go longer?

0:41:47.040 --> 0:41:50.680
<v Speaker 7>Well yeah, no, no, that's too brief. You said, you

0:41:50.760 --> 0:41:53.040
<v Speaker 7>said brief. I was like, hey, I'm gonna give it

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:54.960
<v Speaker 7>to you as short as it. I will give you

0:41:55.080 --> 0:41:57.400
<v Speaker 7>two word answers brief.

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.120
<v Speaker 3>Two Yeah exactly. Yeah. When have we ever said okay?

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:04.000
<v Speaker 2>So no, but I would say this, I would say

0:42:04.080 --> 0:42:04.920
<v Speaker 2>the performance was.

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 4>A solid, solid, think about not game planning, not playing,

0:42:10.520 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 4>you know again, not playing with a host of starters.

0:42:13.920 --> 0:42:17.400
<v Speaker 4>You really showcase your depth, and I think for a

0:42:17.520 --> 0:42:20.000
<v Speaker 4>Mason Rudolph, you couldn't have asked for a better performance

0:42:20.080 --> 0:42:23.080
<v Speaker 4>from him in those first two drives, right, walk it

0:42:23.160 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 4>down the field on the one defense and end in

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 4>a touchdown. Their ones tried to walk down on our defense, Ben,

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:31.879
<v Speaker 4>but don't break field goal. So you say, right there,

0:42:31.920 --> 0:42:35.400
<v Speaker 4>apples to apples. Our twos look better than your ones.

0:42:35.719 --> 0:42:37.439
<v Speaker 4>That's what we're saying right now. So that gives another

0:42:37.520 --> 0:42:40.239
<v Speaker 4>kudos to the depth. Then, of course, Skyler Thompson, your

0:42:40.400 --> 0:42:45.160
<v Speaker 4>fourth string quarterback, was carving up that defense three touchdowns

0:42:45.640 --> 0:42:49.640
<v Speaker 4>in his time in the game and a high percentage

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 4>over seventy four percent completion percentage in that in that

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.279
<v Speaker 4>in that route, and yeah, it was a closer game.

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:58.800
<v Speaker 2>It was a it was a one score game. But

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:00.200
<v Speaker 2>considering what.

0:43:00.280 --> 0:43:02.800
<v Speaker 4>We had versus what they had, you know, it was

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:06.280
<v Speaker 4>a solid performance for our team. The young guys played

0:43:06.360 --> 0:43:09.680
<v Speaker 4>better than expected. Defensively, you know, if I'm gonna go

0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 4>with the negative, not enough pressure on the quarter. It

0:43:12.280 --> 0:43:14.920
<v Speaker 4>did not get a sack, yep, whereas their defense got

0:43:14.960 --> 0:43:18.200
<v Speaker 4>two sacks in that affair. Noe, that one interception that

0:43:18.480 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 4>was had was called back, so we would have had

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 4>a turnover in that game, missed the turnover opportunity. Offensively,

0:43:25.560 --> 0:43:29.480
<v Speaker 4>run efficiency wasn't there. It had moments, but it wasn't there.

0:43:29.560 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 4>But the passing game and protection and route running was

0:43:32.520 --> 0:43:36.200
<v Speaker 4>super crisp, super clean for a guys that are fourth

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:39.040
<v Speaker 4>and fifth down down the depth chart played really well

0:43:40.120 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 4>And hello, mister Roman Wilson, welcome to the NFL. Had

0:43:43.920 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 4>a solid performance out there with the ones as well.

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:48.839
<v Speaker 4>So I think that's kind of where my highlights going.

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:50.279
<v Speaker 3>What the snapshot looks like.

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, one thing that I would add to the overview,

0:43:53.640 --> 0:43:55.279
<v Speaker 2>and I agree with all of that. I agree with

0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:59.120
<v Speaker 2>you know, basically your twos against their one and the ones,

0:43:59.160 --> 0:44:00.880
<v Speaker 2>and they're started there, you're you know, they're trying to

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:02.960
<v Speaker 2>start fresh and all that other stuff. And you know,

0:44:03.040 --> 0:44:06.280
<v Speaker 2>we remember Bill Cower taking a lot of his starts

0:44:06.320 --> 0:44:08.520
<v Speaker 2>out and going up the Buffalo years ago because it's

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:12.879
<v Speaker 2>a game the Steelers didn't need to win. And Max,

0:44:12.920 --> 0:44:15.200
<v Speaker 2>I believe you were on that team, correct.

0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:16.879
<v Speaker 3>That when I first started left Guard.

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and so they're starting place of starting young bucks

0:44:21.040 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 2>like Max Starks and others. And you went up there

0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:28.000
<v Speaker 2>with a lot of your two's and beat their ones.

0:44:28.239 --> 0:44:31.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was a pretty solid Buffalo team that needed

0:44:31.120 --> 0:44:34.239
<v Speaker 2>that game. They needed to win to make the playoffs.

0:44:34.640 --> 0:44:37.480
<v Speaker 2>And so people were howling, oh, this steerer the integrity

0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.160
<v Speaker 2>of the game, and which is a completely different subject

0:44:40.160 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 2>than I understand where people would go there. I have

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 2>mixed feelings about that myself. You know, hey, for the

0:44:46.080 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 2>good of the game, the integrity, year one should be

0:44:48.200 --> 0:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>playing their ones and and all that didn't matter because

0:44:51.239 --> 0:44:53.080
<v Speaker 2>you guys went up in a game Buffalo had to

0:44:53.160 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>win and you beat them well.

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.680
<v Speaker 4>And also we had sewed up the one seed at

0:44:57.719 --> 0:45:00.560
<v Speaker 4>that point. We're fourteen and one going in right yep.

0:45:00.719 --> 0:45:03.560
<v Speaker 4>So it was like, we know we have a longer

0:45:03.640 --> 0:45:06.480
<v Speaker 4>push ahead of us with a young quarterback that it

0:45:06.600 --> 0:45:09.719
<v Speaker 4>had that that had set the rookie start record. Uh,

0:45:09.920 --> 0:45:12.160
<v Speaker 4>you know, I should say reset that record for most

0:45:12.200 --> 0:45:15.040
<v Speaker 4>wins by a rookie quarterback before their first loss. So

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.920
<v Speaker 4>it's like why tempted fate and Charlie Batch came in

0:45:19.080 --> 0:45:19.399
<v Speaker 4>that game.

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:20.960
<v Speaker 3>Chucky A. Kobe came in at center.

0:45:21.040 --> 0:45:23.840
<v Speaker 4>So Jeff Hardings and Allen Fanica set out for myself

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:26.879
<v Speaker 4>and Chucky to go in. You know, we set out

0:45:27.160 --> 0:45:30.280
<v Speaker 4>I want to say we also set out, uh peasey

0:45:30.440 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 4>and put in James Harrison in that game at some

0:45:34.360 --> 0:45:38.280
<v Speaker 4>point as well. We also had some young linebackers believe

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.440
<v Speaker 4>Crimp cl Clint Creek, Walt god I just because we

0:45:42.520 --> 0:45:44.080
<v Speaker 4>used to call him Buddy Lee so I could get

0:45:44.120 --> 0:45:46.799
<v Speaker 4>away from the tongue tie. But we Buddy Lee went

0:45:46.880 --> 0:45:49.279
<v Speaker 4>in and the inside backer positions.

0:45:49.719 --> 0:45:50.919
<v Speaker 3>Uh, we had a lot of guys.

0:45:51.000 --> 0:45:52.920
<v Speaker 2>Brett Kezel came in. We sat Chemo.

0:45:53.239 --> 0:45:55.040
<v Speaker 4>I mean, we set a lot of starters because we're like,

0:45:56.160 --> 0:45:57.400
<v Speaker 4>what else do we need to prove we got the

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.319
<v Speaker 4>one seed? You know, it's like and for that game,

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.480
<v Speaker 4>you know it's important and maybe you're trying to give

0:46:02.560 --> 0:46:05.399
<v Speaker 4>Buffalo a shot, but really not really, you know, give

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:08.560
<v Speaker 4>them a chance at it, and they still didn't.

0:46:08.560 --> 0:46:11.680
<v Speaker 2>We ended up winning that game, so you know, it

0:46:11.840 --> 0:46:13.040
<v Speaker 2>was it was one of those that was tough.

0:46:13.080 --> 0:46:15.160
<v Speaker 4>I believe Verron had a lot of carries that game

0:46:15.200 --> 0:46:19.080
<v Speaker 4>as well, Haynes over Jerome because Jerome I believe set

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:20.359
<v Speaker 4>out and Deuce I believe set out.

0:46:20.640 --> 0:46:23.080
<v Speaker 3>So I mean, you know, that's what it is.

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:24.800
<v Speaker 2>And like you said, the integrity.

0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:27.360
<v Speaker 4>We could talk about how many years did Tony Dungee

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:29.960
<v Speaker 4>set out all of his starters in the last week

0:46:30.000 --> 0:46:32.440
<v Speaker 4>of the season, right, you know, And and Bill Belichick

0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:33.600
<v Speaker 4>did the same thing, you know.

0:46:33.800 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, And as it relates to this game, because

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<v Speaker 2>that is another subject and maybe one will we'll tackle

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<v Speaker 2>inside the locker room, But as it relates to this game,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what sprung to my mind is that your twos

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<v Speaker 2>went down to beat their ones. Now, Buffalo a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>That was that was a better team I think than

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<v Speaker 2>this Jacksonville team certainly was last year. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a regular season game versus the preseason game. But the

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<v Speaker 2>same thing, when your twos go out and beat the

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<v Speaker 2>other team's ones, you're feeling awfully good about your depth,

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<v Speaker 2>even if it's just for a quarter or so in

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<v Speaker 2>a preseason game down in Jacksonville. We're just looking for signs.

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<v Speaker 2>We have more looking and more signs and more analysis

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<v Speaker 2>from Max Starks. We're gonna get into the guys that

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<v Speaker 2>Max really thought stood out in this preseason game. We're

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<v Speaker 2>also going to look forward to the scrimmage coming up

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<v Speaker 2>because we've got another game coming up against Tampa Bay.

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<v Speaker 2>There's gonna be a scrimmage. What does that mean for

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<v Speaker 2>the guys as they break camp and get into this scrimmage.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk about that and more when we continue inside

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<v Speaker 2>the locker room with King and Starks, presented by your

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