1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel, Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, DJ, Bucky, 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 2: Rhett with you. Rhett, welcome back, my friend. 4 00:00:12,760 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: How you doing good? 5 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 3: Excited to be back with you guys here on a Tuesday, 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: kind of like our Mondays from last. 7 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 1: Year, but have enjoyed Baldy as a part. 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 3: Of the program on Mondays and fired up to go 9 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: through some more games here guys. 10 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buck, we give we give everybody the promise we're 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: going to get onto games we didn't get to previously 12 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: on the Monday Show with bald Could you guys, could. 13 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:35,280 Speaker 1: You guys work a little harder? I mean, like we 14 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: had ten games we're going here. 15 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,520 Speaker 2: Hey, Baldy. If you know anything about Baldy or follow 16 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Baldy on social media, you know that he's into deep diving, 17 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: whether it's the ocean. Yeah, so we're not you know, 18 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: we're not just racing throw them. So it left us 19 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: with a lot of meat on the bone here today. 20 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,920 Speaker 2: So we're going to get to some of these other games, 21 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: all these other games. So let's start first of all 22 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: with the game I was at last night, which is 23 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,160 Speaker 2: the Monday night game, the Chargers take care of the 24 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 2: Las Vegas I don't know what the final tally. I 25 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: want to say it was fifteen or sixteen pass breakups 26 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: by the end of the game it was. I don't 27 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:08,759 Speaker 2: know that I've seen a game where a team got 28 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 2: more hands on the football than the Chargers did in 29 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: this game. And Buck creatively getting to four man sometimes 30 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 2: five man rushes. Fifteen pass breakups. Kevin just put in 31 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 2: the in the chat there. Unbelievable a lot. But Gino 32 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 2: had diced up the Patriots the week before the Patriots 33 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 2: blitzed them. He torched them. Jesse Menner, who we're going 34 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 2: to get to in a little bit with our coordinator 35 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 2: of the week. But he does a brilliant job of 36 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: creatively getting to four man rushes. Derwin coming from depth, 37 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 2: you bring a nickel here there dropping guys out. And 38 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 2: the way I described it calling the game was they 39 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 2: made Gino have to throw the ball through the forest 40 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 2: and there were just so many branches there. He just 41 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 2: kept nicking them, one after another, three of the men 42 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: to being picked off. 43 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. So jesse Mentor's experience on the ki lej level 44 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 4: showed up in the Monday Night game. On the collegiate level, 45 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 4: they called those four man rushes, they call them creepers, 46 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 4: simulated pressures. So it looks like you're bringing a blizzard 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 4: from depth, but someone's popping out, So you only have 48 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 4: a four man rush, seven guys in coverage, And if 49 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 4: you're really good at that is a way to kind 50 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 4: of serve both roles. You're able to create pressure by 51 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 4: making the line find someone that is off the ball, 52 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 4: while also having maximum coverage to eliminate the deep balls. 53 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: And if you're a Gino Smith and the guys are 54 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 4: coming from anywhere and everywhere, and as the Chargers have 55 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 4: all these we tall, these like sized athletes, he's struggling 56 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 4: trying to figure out who's up, who's who's coming, who's not. 57 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 4: Where do I go with it? Is it a bliss? 58 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 4: Is it a hot? It is really a very creative 59 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 4: way to give the illusion of pressure while still playing 60 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 4: safe zone with all eyes on the quarterback. 61 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, and just from the Raiders' perspective here in this one, 62 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,919 Speaker 3: obviously Bowers was a little bit banged up coming into 63 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 3: this game, ends up going but does not have a 64 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 3: huge effect on the game. And I think you see 65 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 3: also the difference in geno when he is not you know, 66 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 3: fully there or fully of available, whether it's you know, 67 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 3: injury or whether it's defense really focusing in on him 68 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 3: because there's just not much else there for the Raiders, 69 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,720 Speaker 3: especially on the perimeter. I mean, Jakobe Meyer's you know, good, 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: good player, just that does not command attention from opposing 71 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: defenses the way that you know, a typical number one 72 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 3: wide out would Trey Tucker, not quite the same can 73 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: get down the field. I haven't seen much from Jack 74 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,240 Speaker 3: Besh at all, the rookie second round pick, so I 75 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: think that factors in to some of the difficulty that 76 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 3: Gino has here as well. And then on a positive note, 77 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 3: I think you still even though Ashton Genty only had 78 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 3: eleven carries, I think you still saw some of that 79 00:03:39,760 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: fun stuff that that gent can do when he's just 80 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 3: got a little bit of a crease. Man he goes 81 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 3: to Lowie Gilman felt him on that. I think his 82 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 3: first carry he went. 83 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: To his thigh that was not a good place a 84 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 1: way to go, and. 85 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: He made a couple of nice jump cuts in the 86 00:03:55,000 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 3: in the hole where he moves laterally so well, So 87 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,920 Speaker 3: again I think they're going to have better days on offense. 88 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: This was certainly not one of them. 89 00:04:03,000 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Pete Carroll said after the game he was 90 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: asked about him only getting eleven carries and said, hey, 91 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 2: we're breaking him in. He's a rookie that's going to 92 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: go up. We're gonna give him more as the season 93 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 2: goes along. 94 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 4: Man. 95 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,839 Speaker 2: He had a heavy workload at Poise last year too, 96 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 2: so it sounds like they're just trying to get him 97 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 2: eased into the game. But it's hard for me to 98 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 2: imagine the Raiders going anywhere they want to go without 99 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 2: Ash and Genty touching the football a lot more. It's 100 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 2: two man offense, it's him and it's Brock Bauers and 101 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: figuring out ways for those guys touch the ball as 102 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: many times as possible. On the Chargers offensive side of things, 103 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen again just picked up right where he left 104 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 2: off with Justin Herbert. It's almost going to be, I think, 105 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 2: when his career is over, as if that little Chicago 106 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 2: year never happened. He was just to stay with the 107 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: Chargers all the way through because he just looks like 108 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,840 Speaker 2: the same old Keenan out there. And I was talking 109 00:04:46,839 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 2: to one of the coaches Buck before the game, and 110 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:51,160 Speaker 2: it just kind of struck me. And just talking to 111 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 2: a lot of these players, and you talked to Lad 112 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: McConkie and Keenan and Joe Alt. They've got so many 113 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: smart guys on this team. Zion Johnson's brilliant, Najee Harris, 114 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: smart guy and really good football awareness. And this just 115 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: understands the game really really well. And said, you know, 116 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: it kind of reminds me when I was talking to him, 117 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: reminds me a little bit of Cults when Peyton had 118 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 2: just he was surrounded by smart guys. So when you 119 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: have a bunch of smart people, now volume becomes a 120 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 2: thing where you play together for a long time. You 121 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,000 Speaker 2: can just keep stacking more stuff on top of it 122 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: and really build this offense out. 123 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 4: Look, it's not even like stacking. It is being able 124 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 4: to recall things from previous years. Oh man, we've got 125 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 4: this look endgame. Hey, let's go back and run this 126 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 4: concept because we ran this a couple of years ago. 127 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:41,240 Speaker 4: Versus Does everyone remember? Yes, and they grow together and 128 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: it does allow you to attack. And I'll say this, 129 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 4: man like, it's one of the things that sometimes is 130 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 4: undervalued in scouting by some organizations, but others really crave it. Look, 131 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 4: there's not enough premium placed on intelligence. I'm not only 132 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 4: talking about books marts, but football intelligence because what it does, 133 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 4: it gives you the ability to do so many different things, 134 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 4: and when everyone can speak the same language, you don't 135 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: have to slow down the learning process to make up 136 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 4: for others. It allows you not only to have volume, 137 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 4: but it allows you to have little tricks in tweaks 138 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 4: and adjustments that allows you to put the optimal play 139 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 4: together on offense or defense. 140 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 2: In no doubt, that wasn't the only game yesterday. We 141 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: had the earlier game, which is a knock 'am sockem 142 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: game where pass rush was a big storyline here with 143 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: Houston and Tampa Bay. Rhett, I'll let you go where 144 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:32,160 Speaker 2: you want to go on that one. 145 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, just kind of you know, fast forwarding to the 146 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,239 Speaker 3: end of the game right where you know, the Texans 147 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 3: had the lead nineteen fourteen, and you know, Baker Mayfield 148 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:41,679 Speaker 3: gets the ball back just north of the two minute 149 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 3: warning with an opportunity well you know, has to go 150 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,359 Speaker 3: down and score a touchdown in order to win this game, 151 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 3: and they ultimately do. But I just the conclusion I 152 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 3: got from watching the tape on that two minute drive 153 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: is that Bucky Irving is a cheat code in those situations, right, 154 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: especially for a team like that that's going to want 155 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,800 Speaker 3: to rush for And I get it right because you 156 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: got Will Anderson, Daniel Hunter, and then they're going to 157 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:06,840 Speaker 3: drop a bunch of guys and Bucky just squirts out 158 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 3: of the backfield and he the first play, you know, 159 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: the two minute and everybody knows how important that first 160 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 3: play is, right to get the drive going. He goes 161 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: for twelve on just a little check down to lay release, 162 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: he's out of the gate, and then they have like 163 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: a string of like three straight, four straight incompletions. Baker 164 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: has the clutch run on fourth and ten, gets fifth 165 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 3: red right extends the drive, and that's just part of 166 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: him just being a dude, right, just being. 167 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:34,920 Speaker 1: A clutch football player. 168 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 3: But then they have another big completion to Bucky where 169 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 3: he breaks like two or three different tackles, and I'm like, 170 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: this guy just makes people miss. 171 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: All the time. 172 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 3: So I went and looked at the numbers and kind 173 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 3: of tracked, you know, some of the earlier part of 174 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: the game. He forced nine miss tackles in this game. 175 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 3: They had nineteen forced miss tackles a total for the Bucks, 176 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 3: so that the Texans were just unable to get these 177 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 3: guys down and Bucky was a big part of that, 178 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: and a big part of that that two minute drive 179 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: that ultimately ended with the Rashod White touchdown. I just 180 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 3: think when you've got that kind of weapon in the 181 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 3: backfield in those situations, man, you've just got so many 182 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 3: options if the downfield stuff isn't there, because man, he 183 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 3: can he makes guys miss off. 184 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: It looked like a young Austin Eckler just watching the 185 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: cut ups. 186 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 4: I mean, look, yeah, stop start quickness, and I'm gonna 187 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 4: say this, man, the Buccaneers are funny, right because they're 188 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: sleepy good. So they were saying that this is like 189 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 4: the fifth time, fifth season a row they've started out two, 190 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 4: and oh how they jump out of these fast starts. 191 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: Mecca Buka drops the past. That was a dart yes 192 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 4: from Baker Mayfield, and it's a tougher catch because the 193 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 4: guy's over showed and he just kind of underestimated how 194 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 4: to reach out his hands. But it is a very 195 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 4: talented team. Mike Evan gets open versus everybody, and you 196 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 4: can already see with Chris Guy when coming back and 197 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 4: all this, it's a very difficult offense to stop. And 198 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:57,679 Speaker 4: then Todd Bowles pressure package on defense. It's gonna keep 199 00:08:57,679 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: you up at night. This is a team to keep 200 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 4: an eye on. I'm not saying to a super Bowl team. 201 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: They're one of these tough outs that you're gonna have 202 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 4: to deal with when you get into the postseason. 203 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: Tough injury though, man Bliga cancy to unpack, gone for 204 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 2: the season, that's a bummer. He is a fun player. 205 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 2: He's a really really good player. So again, here we 206 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 2: are two weeks into the season, and it feels like 207 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 2: we've got a load of injuries. 208 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 4: Uh. 209 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 2: With teams star players, you know, great players, the teams 210 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 2: are already having to navigate around. So again, hopefully as 211 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: speedy recovery. Let's let's jam through some of these other 212 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 2: games here that we didn't get a chance to talk 213 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: about yesterday, Uh, Chicago and Detroit. I'll lead us off there. 214 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 2: Just I want to say something positive about the Chicago Bears, 215 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 2: which has not been done. Uh through two weeks. It 216 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 2: is a circle and a cyclone of negativity around the team, 217 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,560 Speaker 2: and I think it look it's because of expectations and 218 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: hasn't been good and and really wasn't good against the 219 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: trade as he got the doors blown off. But let's 220 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: get a positive thought here. Roma Dunza through two weeks 221 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 2: looks like the Roma Dunza that we all got accept 222 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 2: about it Washington. He is polished. We were talking about 223 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen earlier. I think that's the that's the that's 224 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: the north star for him. That's what he's going to 225 00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 2: try and duplicate and be that type of player. But 226 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: someone who just he knows how to win. He catches 227 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 2: them all easy. You can use him underneath in the slot. 228 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,599 Speaker 2: He just got a really really good feel he did that. 229 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: He saw the same double movie you saw him work 230 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 2: guys over with at Washington, you saw in this game. 231 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: So just wanted to throw one positive nugget out there. 232 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 2: I'll let you guys go where you want to go 233 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 2: on that one buck. But I just want to have 234 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 2: something good to say about a Bears team that the 235 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 2: defense looks brutal. And there's a lot of other questions, Yeah, 236 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 2: a lot. 237 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 4: Of other questions. I think some of this is you 238 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: know now that Ben Johnson directed his comments towards the 239 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 4: Detroit Lions. But when he took the job, he has 240 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 4: chess poked out and says some things about the division 241 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: and those things, and you just know how it is. 242 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: And the Detroit Lions, the players talked about feeling disrespected 243 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: in terms of him going within the division, and so 244 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 4: it was a personal thing. I think the other part 245 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:03,840 Speaker 4: about the Bears and the expectations, I feel bad for 246 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:06,839 Speaker 4: Ben Johnson and Kayleb Williams because everybody expected this thing 247 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 4: to hit like wildfire right off the jump. And most 248 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 4: times when you have a transition, a new takeover, it 249 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 4: takes some time for this team to kind of mesh 250 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 4: in jail and get together in terms of play call 251 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:20,400 Speaker 4: and learning quarterback and putting all the pieces together. So 252 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: we just need to have a little more patience with 253 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 4: the Kayleb Williams van Johnson marriage. But man, the wins 254 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 4: in the winning city don't appear to be swinging that 255 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 4: way when it comes to the patients. Fact. 256 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, let's also remember it took some time for Ben 257 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: Johnson and Jared GoF to hit right. I mean, they were, 258 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 3: you know, flirting with a winless season, it felt like 259 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,640 Speaker 3: until they finally kind of kind of kicked things up 260 00:11:43,679 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 3: towards the end. 261 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,320 Speaker 1: Of that first year together. So yeah, well. 262 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 3: I'm with you on that. But on the line side 263 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 3: of things, what a difference week one to week two 264 00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 3: on the offensive side of the ball, right, I mean 265 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: and kind of fitting and ironic that they have an 266 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 3: extremely explosive day offensively playing against Ben Johnson, who authored 267 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 3: so much of the creativity that we came to love 268 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 3: from the Lions the last couple of years. But the 269 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 3: thing that I kind of noticed and watching the six 270 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: explosives in the past game went for over two hundred yards. 271 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 3: They had five hundred yards to total offense over three 272 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 3: I think it was three to nineteen by my count, 273 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: came on explosive plays in the past and the run 274 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 3: game pass game alone. Just looking at that six of 275 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:28,199 Speaker 3: six right for Jared Goff in that scenario, average depth 276 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 3: of target on those throws twenty three yards. These were 277 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 3: not just like hey, let's get a quick screen out, 278 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 3: get a good block and it goes for twenty yards 279 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 3: as an explosive. These were deep downfield. A lot of 280 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 3: them were crossers to a Monroe Saint Brown, one to 281 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 3: Jamison Williams. But the thing that I kept coming back 282 00:12:44,080 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 3: to is he had time, he was protected. Average time 283 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:52,200 Speaker 3: to throw on those explosives were well over three seconds 284 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 3: in the pocket just sitting back there without a real rush. 285 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,079 Speaker 3: And again, much improved offensive line performance week one in 286 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 3: the week two. Now again you're playing a different type 287 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 3: of defense, right, different type of defensive line in terms 288 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 3: of personnel from the Packers to the Bears. But this 289 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 3: was much better, much needed for the Lions. I was 290 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 3: really impressed. The way they got the ball down the 291 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 3: field in this game was a big factor. 292 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 2: And I think the other team that wasn't in that game, 293 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 2: that was hovering over that game was everybody going, gosh, 294 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 2: Green Bay must be really stinking good. 295 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,880 Speaker 1: They are really good. 296 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: And that was the other thought there after after seeing 297 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: that what went down there. Buck Cleveland Baltimore and Baltimore Hammers, 298 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: I'm forty one to seventeen. 299 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:37,400 Speaker 4: Look, man, just over Baltimore Baltimore just doing what they do. 300 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:39,440 Speaker 4: Just a really talented team, a team that when they're 301 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: locked in and focused, they're really tough to be even 302 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 4: though they kind of slock through different parts of the game. 303 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 4: When they turn it on, man, it's a clear separation. 304 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 4: Just giving their talent. This is a team that I'm 305 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 4: excited to see when they're able to bounce out the 306 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 4: offense with Lamar Jackson throwing the ball all over the 307 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 4: yard given the threat that he also presents as a runner, 308 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 4: Dick can we being able to get it done. Just 309 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 4: what they can do and how they constantly can keep 310 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: the pressure on the defensive coordinator to have to make 311 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: hard decisions on what they want to defend, what they 312 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 4: want to take away. They're just really good. And then defensively, 313 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:12,840 Speaker 4: if they don't let the ball fly over the head man, 314 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,560 Speaker 4: it's just hard to move the ball on them consistently. 315 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 4: Just a town to team. I just need them to 316 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: be mature enough to take care of business against all 317 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 4: these teams. 318 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 3: Look, I looked at the brown side of things here 319 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 3: at twenty eight points off errors, fumble recovery. Well, let's 320 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 3: go in order. Block punt in the second quarter. I mean, 321 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: you block a punt, you know, those are such momentum shifts. 322 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: And then the Ravens are able to score off the 323 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 3: block punt. They have the interception to start the second 324 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: half on the first possession from Joe Flacco, which is 325 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 3: he's like on the run, like getting chased down and 326 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 3: then throws somewhat back into the middle of the field. 327 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: Just kind of a misfire. Didn't need to have it, 328 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 3: throw it away, lived to play another day. It gets 329 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 3: picked off. Ravens score a touchdown off that interception. Then 330 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: you have the strip sacked fumble, in which I just 331 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 3: like looking at that thing, and he had options there. 332 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 3: It just kind of like he kind of like like 333 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 3: reholstered right. He was like ready to straight, just didn't 334 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: have great anticipation. Had an open receiver on the left 335 00:15:13,360 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 3: hand side. Now look open. It was a tight window, 336 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 3: but probably could have gotten it there. And then I 337 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: had another option on the right hand side on that 338 00:15:20,120 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: on the strip sack, it just didn't get to it. 339 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 3: So he's holding on to the ball for too long. 340 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: Eventually the rush gets there, knocks the ball out, Roquan 341 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: takes at the distance fumble recovery returned for a touchdown, 342 00:15:31,520 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 3: and then you know, in the very next possession they 343 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 3: just turn it over on downs. They're they're way behind 344 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 3: the eight ball here. Didn't have a lot of great options, 345 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: but that turns into a touchdown. Twenty eight points off 346 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: of turnovers, a block punt and a turnover on downs. 347 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 3: It's a difference in his game. Now you take some 348 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 3: of that out, you take twenty one of those out 349 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 3: with the block punt and the two turnovers. 350 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a it's a closer game, but it did. 351 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 3: It just never felt like Baltimore didn't have control of 352 00:15:58,760 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 3: this thing the way to ultimately end it up. 353 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: Hey, if that thunderstorm doesn't come, there's no puddle, you 354 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 2: know what I mean. 355 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: That's right. 356 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 4: It could have been. 357 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: Fine if not for the nineteen turnovers. They win that game. 358 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 3: Like when they're when they're controllable, right when they are, 359 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 3: you know when you can you can make a better 360 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 3: decision on the play. 361 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: Here's my two things from this game, because I didn't 362 00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 2: have a chance to see much of it. So I'm 363 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: back and I wanted to do some selfish vanity projects. 364 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 2: So one of which was Mason Graham. Through two weeks, 365 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 2: Mason Graham is making some impact plays for this defense. 366 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 2: He's his quickness has been there, leverage he's getting on 367 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 2: the other side of the line of scrimmage. I know 368 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: there was a lot of noise after that and they 369 00:16:37,520 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 2: decided not to take Travis Hunter, but I've been encouraged 370 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: what I've seen from Mason Graham through two games, just 371 00:16:42,040 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 2: spinning through his production and what he's doing and generating. 372 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 2: So that's positive there. And the other thing was I 373 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: was kind of wondering how the fit with Nuke Hopkins 374 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: was going to be with Baltimore, Like, how are they 375 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 2: going to use him? What's he going to be? And 376 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: I think it's pretty evident now. I mean, he's going 377 00:16:56,880 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 2: to be their jump ball, vertical guy who can do 378 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: it in the red zone and just give you that 379 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 2: open covered guy, you know what I mean. They've got 380 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 2: guys who can separate and then they're gonna get you 381 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 2: with I get your eyes in trouble with all the 382 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: different play action and movement you're gonna have with Lamar 383 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: in the backfield. But there's sometimes and I think to me, 384 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: this is gonna be a move for January. Is you're 385 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 2: gonna be in the postseason and there's gonna be guys 386 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 2: swallowed up and you're gonna have to throw it into 387 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 2: a crowd. And I think that's where Hopkins is gonna 388 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 2: come in. 389 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 4: Man. 390 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 2: And you can see that Lamar already trusts him. He's 391 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 2: not separating, He never has separated, he never will separate. 392 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: So you got to trust him that he's gonna he's 393 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 2: gonna win. He's a ball winner, and I think that's 394 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 2: the role that he's playing for the Baltimore Ravens. So 395 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: that was fun to watch how they're utilizing what he 396 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 2: absolutely does best. RTT keep it rolling here Buffalo and 397 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 2: the Jets. I give just real quick on that. My 398 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 2: only nugget on that is Ken kid is playing well 399 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 2: and and uh, he's kind of gone back to what 400 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: he was at Utah, which is just a lot of 401 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,879 Speaker 2: quick stuff underneath, just just someone who's a volume player. 402 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 2: I don't know that I see like the most dynamic 403 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 2: version that maybe I was hoping to see. But he 404 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 2: is someone that Josh trust and you're going to be 405 00:18:05,359 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: It's a million paper cuts, is how they can beat 406 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 2: you with him. 407 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, and look they were the best rushing team in 408 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: the league this week, the Buffalo Bills, who are two 409 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,800 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty four rushing yards. And obviously it helps 410 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 3: when you get when you get Josh Allen on the run, 411 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: you know, early in the game and goes for fifty 412 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 3: yards on a scramble, which he you know, is out there, 413 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 3: you know, looking just insane. Some of the moves he 414 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 3: makes in the pocket to get out of that mess 415 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: and have that explosive play. But I think the more 416 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 3: like this year certainly, this game kind of a microcosm 417 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 3: of what we've seen from the Bills over the last 418 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 3: you know, year plus, which is, you know, without forcing 419 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,959 Speaker 3: the ball to Stefan Diggs a whole bunch, they've become 420 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 3: a team that can really run the football, and James 421 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,520 Speaker 3: cook Man is rocket and rolling right now one hundred 422 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 3: and thirty two yards in this game. They are really 423 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: good and in this game, it feels like it worked 424 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 3: out really well for them with their zone scheme. 425 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: Their zone scheme runs. 426 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 3: Because I feel like, especially Bucky and you can chime 427 00:19:01,240 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 3: in on this one too, when you have a player 428 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 3: like Quinn Williams who can get into the backfield and 429 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: get upfield quickly, right and be a disruptor that way, 430 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 3: when you can get him moving laterally with the way 431 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 3: you're running some of those outside zones and some of 432 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 3: those zones that hit a little bit more outside, I 433 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,479 Speaker 3: think that's obviously a positive thing to keep him out 434 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: of the backfield, and it worked a number of times 435 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 3: in this one, and James cook was excellent in this 436 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 3: game a couple of rushing touchdowns as well. So when 437 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: they can run the football that way, it's a long 438 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 3: day for a defense knowing that you've got the threat 439 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 3: of Josh Allen there as well. 440 00:19:36,480 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's the perfect scenario for the 441 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,240 Speaker 4: Buffalo Bills. It's one of the reasons why they should 442 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 4: stick to the run and be a little more persistent 443 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 4: with the running game because it does alleviate some of 444 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:46,399 Speaker 4: the pressure on Josh Allen and it allows him to 445 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:47,960 Speaker 4: kind of pick and choose when he needs to put 446 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 4: the cape on James Cook. Look, he's been to the 447 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 4: Pro Bowl a few different times. He just paid him. 448 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 4: He's a franchise running back for them. And what the 449 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 4: Bills are is a very consistent, steady ity team. Like 450 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,880 Speaker 4: I think, you know exactly what you're getting from them 451 00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 4: each and every week, and that's one of the reasons 452 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 4: that they're going to be one of the top two 453 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,399 Speaker 4: or three teams in the AFC. What you want to 454 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 4: see them do to go to the next level is 455 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 4: to see if they can find a little more explosiveness 456 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 4: and it's not necessarily on the legs of Josh Allen 457 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: that they can create explosiveness by design as opposed to 458 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 4: leaning on Superman to make these plays out of the 459 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 4: pocket on unscripted efforts. If they can do that, then 460 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 4: they really become a very, very dangerous team to deal with. 461 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: As we started talking about the postseason and who has 462 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 4: legitimate Super Bowl chances. 463 00:20:34,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 2: I think there's a lot of teams in the mix. 464 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,880 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like anybody's completely separated themselves so far 465 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: this season. I think there's a lot of teams going 466 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: to be joce for position there in the AFC. How 467 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 2: about San Francisco, Rrett. This is Mac Jones audition for 468 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 2: this role a few years ago, didn't get the part, 469 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 2: but the director decided to make it your movie and 470 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: starring him in this movie. It turns out and it's 471 00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 2: a good match. It's a good match there. 472 00:20:57,680 --> 00:20:57,920 Speaker 1: Yeah. 473 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 3: I thought that was fun to watch for Mac Jones 474 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: to find some successes. He said, to kind of get 475 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 3: his confidence back a little bit. And I mean, that's 476 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: that's what Kyle Shanahan's offense does for quarterbacks, right, I mean, 477 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 3: just go down the line guys that can play confidently, 478 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 3: you know, in this system. 479 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: And I thought that was that was a. 480 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:18,399 Speaker 3: Lot of fun to see, especially like without George Kittle 481 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 3: still finding ways to get the tight ends involved both 482 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 3: Farrell and Tanjas And yeah, you didn't need like a 483 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 3: heroic performance from Christian McCaffrey in this one, which was, 484 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 3: you know, a positive. 485 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 1: I did want to switch over though, to talk a 486 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:32,679 Speaker 1: little bit about. 487 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 3: Spencer Rattler on the saint side of things here, because 488 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 3: I know it's there O and two now oh and 489 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 3: two now, two tough losses, but I think you're seeing 490 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 3: the Kellen Moore effect of you know, just like we're 491 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: talking about Kyle Shanahan mac Jones, but I think you're 492 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 3: seeing the Kellen Moore effect with Spencer Ratler in this offense. 493 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 3: He's got a clean sheet, has not turned the ball 494 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: over in the past game right now, he's got a 495 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 3: couple of touchdowns. They were three for three on touchdowns 496 00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:00,680 Speaker 3: in the red zone in this game. And he was 497 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,719 Speaker 3: under duress in this game as well, like Kelvin Banks 498 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 3: had some you know, I know we were big fans 499 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 3: of his throughout the preseason. 500 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 1: And maybe early on struggled. 501 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Nick Moosa will do that to you, but yeah, 502 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 3: they were just overpowered a number of times. Both the 503 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 3: tackles gave up six pressures in this game. So I 504 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 3: mean for him to be under director, for Spencer Ratler 505 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 3: to be under duress in this game and to still 506 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 3: find ways to be judicious with the football and execute 507 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 3: the offense. I thought was signed like a nice sign 508 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 3: of life for New Orleans. They got to start winning 509 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 3: some of these close games. But that's something to build up. 510 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 2: Did you put your hand up, by the way, we'rrett 511 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: and own that one, because we were talking the other 512 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 2: day it was last week, and you're just like, you know, hey, 513 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 2: they've invested a lot in this offensive line of New Orleans. 514 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 2: This is an that part is just a kiss. Man 515 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: just got smoked the next week. You just raise your 516 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: hand on that. 517 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: That's it. 518 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: That's good, Buck. Let's let's take a time out. We 519 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 2: come back. We'll rip through the last few games here, 520 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 2: all right, Buck Rams thirty three to nineteen Byron Young 521 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 2: in Company. I don't know that everybody labels him as 522 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,639 Speaker 2: the lead singer of that pass rush, but man, he 523 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: was great in this game. And this Rams pass rush 524 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 2: got after cam Or. That looked a little fast out 525 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:19,119 Speaker 2: there for him in that one. 526 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, a little fast. And what I love about the Rams. 527 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 4: I mean, like I tell you, like it's funny that 528 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 4: in Hollywood you have a team that is a blue 529 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 4: collar team, but that's what the La Rams are. They 530 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 4: ability to morph their playing style in any situation really 531 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 4: is remarkable to me. This is a team that can 532 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 4: play with glitz and glamor they can throw it all 533 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 4: over the yard. You have Devonte Adams pukingakua, but then 534 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 4: they can get down and dirty and run the football 535 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: with Karen Williams. They can lean on their defense, which 536 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 4: has a bunch of young, hungry defenders at the point 537 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 4: of attack. To me, when I look at the team 538 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 4: that Sean McVay and Lesnie have built, they've kind of 539 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,440 Speaker 4: built a rock solid team without a glaring weakness that 540 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 4: gives them a chance to match up with anybody. I 541 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 4: just love the fact that Sean McVay, who kind of 542 00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 4: earned a reputation for being the offensive wizard, is willing 543 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 4: to win by enemies necessary, and that really bowls well 544 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 4: for a team that can match with any of these 545 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: teams in the tournament. They have a chance because they 546 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,080 Speaker 4: can change and become a chameleon and do what they 547 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: need to do to get out of a game. 548 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I would say, you know, obviously Kyrin Williams 549 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 3: is the straw that starts that drink there in the 550 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,120 Speaker 3: run game for the Rams. But I think I saw 551 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,640 Speaker 3: some signs of encouragement for Blake Korum in this game. 552 00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: Literally great pre season. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 553 00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 3: I mean I think I think this run scheme like 554 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,239 Speaker 3: he's he's kind of figured this thing out now with 555 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 3: a lot of those duo runs that they have, And 556 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,919 Speaker 3: he moved really well, like in between the tackles in 557 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 3: this game, and he's so low to the ground and 558 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 3: has that great center of gravity, plays behind his pads 559 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 3: like it's it was fun to watch him kind of 560 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,200 Speaker 3: get loose a little bit in these games. And he 561 00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 3: five carries forty four yards, but it wasn't like it 562 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 3: was one for thirty and then the rest were little, 563 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,399 Speaker 3: you know, dinks and dunks there. It was like eight 564 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 3: it felt like seven yards of carry a couple of 565 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,239 Speaker 3: times in there. So I thought that was nice as 566 00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: you kind of trying to move forward in that blue 567 00:25:05,080 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 3: collar way at times, as Bucky's talking about to have 568 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,920 Speaker 3: more than just Kyrien Williams out there tote. 569 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 2: The load, no doubt, look like Krum we saw him 570 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 2: at training camp, he saw it in the preseason. Now 571 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 2: you see it carrying over to the regular season. So 572 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 2: his role I think will continue to grow there in 573 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 2: that offense. All right, New England Miami. I had a 574 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: chance to go back and watch Drake and just kind 575 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 2: of studied him in this game. I was curious to 576 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 2: see what he looked like. Red I see you nod 577 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 2: in your head, so I'll let you follow me up 578 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: on here, man. But this was the game that showed 579 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: you why you get so excited about Drake May and 580 00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 2: why I think that the future is incredibly bright for 581 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,359 Speaker 2: this franchise. It was it was everything on display. It 582 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 2: was drive throws, it was numerous touch throws, beautiful bucket 583 00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: touch throws you know to backs, you know down the field, 584 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 2: tight ends, ball dropping out of the sky, The ball 585 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 2: placement was beautiful. Then it was him being able to 586 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 2: just use his legs, go run, get the pylon, get 587 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 2: your way into the end zone when when those opportunities 588 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 2: create themselves, and it just looked like he was a 589 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: very poised, under control player who trust what he was seeing. 590 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: I was talking to the guys up in Seattle earlier 591 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: today on the show up there and we were talking 592 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 2: about Sam Darnold and I said, with a quarterback, I 593 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 2: love it when you can see a guy who trusts 594 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 2: his eyes and trusts. 595 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 4: His guys like you. 596 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 2: You see that, you trust what you're seeing coverage wise, 597 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 2: and you trust your guys are going to be where 598 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,600 Speaker 2: they need to be and the ball is gone. I 599 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,880 Speaker 2: thought in that game that you saw that from from 600 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: Drake May and that was the reason I would be 601 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 2: very excited if I were a Patriot fan. Don't worry 602 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 2: about wins this year. Worry about the fact that you've 603 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 2: got the key foundation piece in place and some other 604 00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: good young players. 605 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: Go ahead, Buck, Yeah, No. 606 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 4: I mean, look, one of the reasons that I thought 607 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 4: it was appealing to have Mike Rabel and jas mcgame's 608 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,680 Speaker 4: comment is because there's gonna be a little of organization 609 00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: instructure doesn't allow a young quarterback to improve because this 610 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,199 Speaker 4: was not their first rodeo with a quarterback, that they 611 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 4: would figure out a way to put him in his 612 00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,320 Speaker 4: sweet spot. And they have done that. And I think 613 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 4: what Mike Rabel has done is not only make it 614 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 4: where it look they're building the quarterback or whatever, but 615 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 4: they're really building all areas of the team, so he 616 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 4: doesn't feel like he has to play like a superhero 617 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 4: as a young player, that he has to be the 618 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 4: savior of the franchise, even though we know he needs 619 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 4: to be that special quarterback for them to get where 620 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 4: they eventually want to be. I think they've done a 621 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 4: really good job of having him be a key contributor 622 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 4: but not be the entire team. I like the way 623 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 4: the Patriots are training. I like the fact that they 624 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 4: brought those veterans over to support him offense and defense 625 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 4: to complimentary football aspect of it. But make no mistake, 626 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,120 Speaker 4: Drake May has the ingredients to be a star. It's 627 00:27:44,160 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 4: just a matter of when is it going to pop 628 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 4: for him. But you got to like what you're seeing from. 629 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 3: And I think there's there's some you know, comparisons that 630 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,119 Speaker 3: you can draw, you know, now to the way that 631 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 3: Josh Allen plays the game, but it's more polished earlier, 632 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 3: Like you go back to Josh's start, you know, it 633 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 3: was kind of like wild, right, like all over the 634 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: pot is frenetic. 635 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 2: It's not as frenetic exactly right. 636 00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: It is just more in control, more polished, but it's 637 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 3: producing similar results and really fun to watch the maturation 638 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 3: of Drake May And I think I think Mike Rable 639 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 3: is very fortunate in his first year here in New 640 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 3: England to have a franchise quarterback that way, I mean, 641 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:24,800 Speaker 3: still a little bit selfishly because of the way that 642 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: our rookie draft ended up working out. That Trevion Henderson 643 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 3: just for just not a part of the game plan 644 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 3: right now. 645 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 2: Oh look, o, Marion Hampton, not a part of the 646 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 2: game plan. 647 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,199 Speaker 4: You know. 648 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: Ashon Jent should have got more touches. Wait, let's let's 649 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 2: free these rookie running backs. 650 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: Up a little bit. 651 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 2: Man, Let's get them going for crying out. I'm with you, 652 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 2: all right, Let's let's wrap this thing up here. Last one, 653 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Arizona they get a win over Carolina. Some news coming 654 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 2: out of this game, Rob Hunt, Torn Bicep, Austin Corbett, 655 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 2: Torn mcl both Onto ir So things are not great 656 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: for the Carolina Panthers right now. And Arizona, you know, 657 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 2: find a way to get to the winner. Circles kind 658 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 2: of held on in this one. 659 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,280 Speaker 4: Buck. Yeah, Arizona they find a way. And look, man, 660 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: there's not a lot of people talking about the Arizona Cardinals, 661 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 4: but if you keep stacking wins, you look up and 662 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 4: you can find yourself in the tournament. And that's the 663 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 4: important part of winning these games earlier why everyone is 664 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 4: trying to figure out who they are. If you can 665 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 4: steal some wins in September, it really gives you a 666 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 4: chance to be one of those teams that plays in 667 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 4: January and ultimately in February. The Cardinals can play much better, 668 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 4: and I think there's some things that they will do 669 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 4: to kind of unlock this offense in time, But right 670 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,720 Speaker 4: now they're doing just enough to win games. And at 671 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 4: the end of the day in three weeks, no one's 672 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: gonna care how they got to this point. They're just 673 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 4: gonna be like, man, they got off to a fast start. 674 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, look, I think these are the games you gotta win, 675 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 3: right if you want to be that team that some 676 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: people talked about as you know, like this could be 677 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 3: a dark horse team in the NFC West here in 678 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: Jonathan Gannon's third year, like, these are the games that 679 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: you have to find a way to win, even though 680 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 3: it's not pretty on the offensive side of the ball. 681 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison just to cat in this game. Nobody over 682 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 3: thirty five yards rushing in this game for the Cardinals. 683 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: But they find a way and they do it by, 684 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: you know, building a lead early. Defense played really well 685 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,959 Speaker 3: early on in this game, and then they gave up 686 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 3: the three straight touchdown possessions in the third and fourth quarter, 687 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 3: all late late game stuff. If you're looking, I was 688 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,080 Speaker 3: just looking. First half, they give up ninety three yards 689 00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 3: like they they had. They had the Panthers in a 690 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: hole that they tried to look. Credit the Panthers for 691 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 3: staying in this thing. But you can't get in a 692 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 3: hole like that and play that poorly in the first 693 00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 3: half expect to win games against a good team in 694 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,360 Speaker 3: the Cardinals like this. 695 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. 696 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 2: No, it's been a tough, tough road here for the 697 00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Carolina Panthers. All right, talked about this guy a little 698 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 2: bit earlier. We're going to get a little bit more 699 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 2: in depth. Right now. It's time for Hot or Not, 700 00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,760 Speaker 2: brought to you by with Sabi Hot Cloud Storage. This 701 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 2: is where we go to our coordinator of the Week. 702 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,680 Speaker 2: I mentioned it earlier, Jesse Miner, defensive coordinator for the Chargers. 703 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 2: What we like to do is highlight a coordinator every 704 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: week and give you a little bit of their background, 705 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,320 Speaker 2: a little bit of their story and tell you a 706 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 2: little bit about some of these bright young coach. So 707 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: Jesse Minner Michigan in twenty three top break defense in 708 00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: the country as their defensive coordinator two hundred and forty 709 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 2: seven yards per game if you're into that. He was 710 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,880 Speaker 2: a finalist for the Broyles Award, that's present of the 711 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 2: top assistant college football. Previously to that, he's in Michigan 712 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 2: twenty two and twenty three and twenty one. Has a 713 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 2: stopovers defensive coordinator at Vandy and was also their safeties 714 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 2: coach prior to that. Again, you'll see a lot of 715 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 2: the similarities with Mike McDonald. He was with the Ravens 716 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 2: from seventeen to twenty coaching defensive backs there and a 717 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 2: part of some really really good ball clubs. For those 718 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 2: who don't know his dad, Rick Minner, you know, it 719 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 2: was kind of a legendary coach there at the collegiate level, 720 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,120 Speaker 2: Cincinnati and some other stops along the way, so they 721 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 2: it's a football family. It's someone who's been under kind 722 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 2: of harbor umbrella and been around a lot of good 723 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 2: defensive coaches and Buck we referenced the game plan he's had, 724 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: you know, against the Vegas Raiders in that game. But 725 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 2: last year, this is the number one defense in the NFL, 726 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 2: and I don't think it's one that's just loaded, star 727 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 2: studded all over the field. They've got really really well coached, 728 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 2: smart players, and he does a great job from week 729 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: to week ad justin his scheme limiting explosives. He's just 730 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 2: a darn good football coach. I would imagine it at 731 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 2: this time next year will be on a sideline as 732 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,360 Speaker 2: a head coach. 733 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just really good man. It's just more impressed 734 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: with him each and every time that I get a 735 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 4: chance to watch the Chargers in depth. It is the 736 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 4: way that he takes all of the pieces of the 737 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:27,560 Speaker 4: puzzle and put it together. And it's also being able 738 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 4: to do it without I would say, a bunch of 739 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 4: name brands. They have some later round picks that are playing. 740 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: They have some other guys that are not your star 741 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 4: players playing, but then their stars show up in big moments. 742 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 4: And I just like the fact that you have a 743 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 4: guy like Derwin James who can come down and run 744 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 4: a pick a pick rush for to create opportunities for 745 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,280 Speaker 4: Khalil Mack to come around the corner and do some 746 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 4: things and just how fast they play. There is a 747 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 4: confidence that they play with that allows him to play 748 00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 4: fast and furious. It's just a well designed, nicely crafted 749 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 4: defense that is really tough to defend because they don't 750 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 4: give you anything. Like they're not overly aggressive with they're reckless. 751 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 4: They just don't concede big plays and they make you 752 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 4: drive the length of the field and at some point 753 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 4: you go mess it up, and when you mess up, 754 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 4: they make you pack. 755 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would just say I'm kind of like impressed 756 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,320 Speaker 3: with just the balance of this whole thing and the 757 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,160 Speaker 3: way that they can mix it up with a bunch 758 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: of different coverages. You know, they're not beholden to any 759 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 3: one thing per se. He's not like, you know, overly 760 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: heating up the quarterback with extra rushers. When you can 761 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 3: get home with four obviously you have three or four, 762 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 3: you're winning. But just feels like there's a great mix 763 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 3: of what they do and kind of always you know, 764 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 3: giving a different picture to quarterbacks, making making your guests 765 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 3: a little bit, making you try to really diagnose and 766 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: figure out what you're doing. Snap to snap. It's just 767 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,960 Speaker 3: a nice menu on that call sheet for jesse mentor 768 00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 3: that his guys are obviously really good at executing. 769 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 2: He's a good dude too. Like a lot of times 770 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: defensive coaches, you get a lot of bravado, sometimes fake 771 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 2: tough guys. He's just a real authentic guy who's incredibly smart, 772 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: relates well to the players. I think he'll interview very 773 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 2: very well when he gets his opportunity as a head 774 00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,120 Speaker 2: coaching candidate. But doing a wonderful job there with the 775 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 2: Chargers as their defensive coordinator. That was this week's Hot 776 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: or Not segment, brought to you by with Sabbi Hot 777 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,879 Speaker 2: cloud storage, store more and do more with your data. 778 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 2: Try them for free at Withsabi dot com. All right, boys, 779 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 2: that does it for us today we covered those games. 780 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: We're gonna come back tomorrow. We'll have the rookie Draft, 781 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,880 Speaker 2: the recap what happened there last week, touch on some 782 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 2: other rookies as well as we march towards Week three 783 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 2: of the NFL season.