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Speaker 2: with you today. Gibbe en route as we speak to

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Speaker 2: the Greenbrier in West Virginia, where the Browns will join Gibbe.

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Speaker 2: I will join Gibbe. Jim Donovan will join Gibbe tomorrow

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Speaker 2: in West Virginia. The team will be traveling there and

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Speaker 2: will be there until August the second, as the start

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Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty four Cleveland brown season is here. Boy,

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Speaker 2: this summer when fast, I don't know where it went.

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Speaker 2: It's wild, but here we are. We are about to

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Speaker 2: be off and running for the Cleveland Browns in training

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Speaker 2: camp are hot Topics of the day presented by University Hospitals,

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Speaker 2: the official healthcare partner of your Cleveland Browns. Some good

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Speaker 2: news for the Browns, and then some injury updates for

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Speaker 2: the Browns. The good news first, and this broke yesterday

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Speaker 2: right after Cleveland Browns Daily went off of the air,

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Speaker 2: that Amari Cooper has reported to training camp. They have

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Speaker 2: a greed on a new deal that will give him

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Speaker 2: a five million dollar raise in twenty twenty three and

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Speaker 2: guaranteed him the twenty million dollars left on his contract.

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Speaker 2: Cooper coming off a career high twelve hundred and fifty

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Speaker 2: receiving yards for your Cleveland Browns, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: how it was a career year for Mariy Cooper, and

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Speaker 2: while that is one hundred percent accurate in the sense

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Speaker 2: of the twelve to fifty, it was really a career

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Speaker 2: year for Mari Cooper by many, many metrics, and he

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Speaker 2: had just a phenomenal twenty twenty three season. And you know,

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Speaker 2: with the changes to the offense, I think he has

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Speaker 2: a chance to even have a better twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: So I thought very important. This is a team that

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Speaker 2: has had such a quiet offseason, no distractions, no big

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Speaker 2: you know, not making any headlines, and that's good. Are

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Speaker 2: there questions, of course, and we'll talk about those, but

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Speaker 2: this is a football team that now is going into

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Speaker 2: it without any contract issues, without any holdouts, and we're

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Speaker 2: seeing those around the NFL. But Amari Cooper last year

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Speaker 2: twelve hundred and fifty yards. Yes, that was a career high,

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Speaker 2: but he also had some other career highs. When you

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Speaker 2: seventeen point four yards per catch career high. Previous career

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Speaker 2: to have seventeen point four yards per catch for him,

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Speaker 2: that was incredible. Also for Amri nine point eight yards

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Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. But Amari so far in his three years

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Speaker 2: with the Cleveland Browns, his yards have gone up or

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Speaker 2: is two season, I'm sorry with Cleveland Browns. Yards have

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Speaker 2: gone up both years. Yards per catch gone up both years,

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Speaker 2: yards per game, all of it. So you're hoping for

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Speaker 2: Mari Cooper that that trend line continues. The seven time

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Speaker 2: Pro Bowl receiver and he has been a Pro Bowler

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Speaker 2: with every team that he's been. I as a pro

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Speaker 2: bowler with the Raiders, pro bowler with Dallas, and a

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Speaker 2: and that's nothing that we're gonna have to worry about.

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Speaker 2: all right for the Browns. Some roster moves today leading

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Speaker 2: He's gonna compete to make this roster, I think primarily

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Speaker 2: NFI list. Now, the Browns also will have five players

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Speaker 2: what's gonna end up happening when Nick Chubb comes back

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Speaker 2: So that's what he does differently. But he's gonna need

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Speaker 2: You know that the Browns will have all five safeties

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Speaker 2: we're talking young players, rookies, no NFL experience so far,

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Speaker 2: right there with him with a tackle position, with two

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Speaker 2: This is a crowded room, and if Dalvin misses a

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Speaker 2: You drafted Mike Hall in the second round, so you

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Speaker 2: feels like Mike Hall, Dalvin and Quentin Jefferson are LOCKX.

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Speaker 2: You just drafted Eke on the third round a year ago.

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Speaker 2: You love Shelby Harrison, what he gives you. You love Maurice

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Speaker 2: is going to be a tough, tough room and tough

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Speaker 3: Oh, that's such a tough question. Why you gotta put

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Speaker 2: This is it not softballs on this program, Nick Shook.

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Speaker 3: Mean it, if you like the last college game way

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Speaker 3: Well, two Lane's probably one of the best G five

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what you're putting me up against being

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Speaker 3: I'd play college football because building the dynasty is something

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Speaker 3: We still can't block, we can't run the football, we

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Speaker 2: Football, all right. Is so the thing that I'm like

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Speaker 3: The older running back who was the backup, even though

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Speaker 3: he won the national title, So you got that. But

433
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Speaker 3: recruiting itself, it's a weekly process. You allocate your hours.

434
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Speaker 3: You got to chase guys down. You can lose guys

435
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Speaker 3: your g five.

436
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Speaker 4: I've lost a ton of guys the old miss I

437
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Speaker 4: lost a couple of four stars the LSU at the

438
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Speaker 4: last second, you know, thought I was in a great

439
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 4: spot and they swooped in and took them.

440
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Speaker 3: So it's very deep. There's a lot of different facts

441
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,119
Speaker 3: and it's not time consuming, but it's something that I

442
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Speaker 3: do before every game every week because I gotta make

443
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Speaker 3: sure that I'm on top of it without a doubt.

444
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Speaker 3: So that's that's the fun in it. I mean, I

445
00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:12,119
Speaker 3: had a buddy who was at work and he texted

446
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Speaker 3: me and goes, you know, I'm sitting here at working

447
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Speaker 3: right now. I just want to be at home recruiting.

448
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Speaker 2: So it's like that, all right, Well, very good, Okay,

449
00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:20,680
Speaker 2: So we got that out of the way, and it's good.

450
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Speaker 2: You got me excited. I'm fired up. I'm gonna do

451
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Speaker 2: my best to take an honor of my late great

452
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Speaker 2: uncle Zago to take Arizona the Wildcats, bring them back

453
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Speaker 2: to the glory days of desert swarm and hopefully hoist

454
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Speaker 2: a national championship trophy. That's gonna be my goal.

455
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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm all more with that. You know, they just

456
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 3: lost Jed Fish, but they had a hell of a

457
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Speaker 3: year last year under him as a head coach, and

458
00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 3: they got a lot of talent still on that team.

459
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Speaker 3: So I'm really excited to see what they do. So

460
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Speaker 3: you know what, go take the Wildcats all the way

461
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Speaker 3: to the mountaintop.

462
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Speaker 2: Let's go, baby, All right, we're gonna do that. All right,

463
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Speaker 2: let's turn our attention from the world of fun video

464
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Speaker 2: game football to the world of real football. NFL training

465
00:21:54,680 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: camps opening up all over the place. The Browns will

466
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Speaker 2: be headed to the Greenbrier to begin their work tomorrow.

467
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Speaker 2: So when you kind of just look at overall this

468
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Speaker 2: off season for the Cleveland Browns, what what's kind of

469
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Speaker 2: your read on what has felt like, at least internally,

470
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: a real quiet offseason. And now you check the Amari

471
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Speaker 2: Cooper box that not a lot of news are a

472
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Speaker 2: lot of waves.

473
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Speaker 3: No news is good news, right, yeah, and it's says

474
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,520
Speaker 3: you didn't have any news. I mean, you acquired Jerry Judy,

475
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Speaker 3: but it was months ago, right, You're draft a little quiet,

476
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Speaker 3: but I like the idea of a bike hall and

477
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,719
Speaker 3: as Zach Gentter providing deaths in upside at those positions.

478
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Speaker 3: Curious to see how Jamari's thrash fits into this receiving corps.

479
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: But no news is good news for a team that

480
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Speaker 3: made the playoffs last year, a team that you know,

481
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Speaker 3: did really well and overcame a lot to get there.

482
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Speaker 3: The best news is that they were able to get

483
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Speaker 3: deeper I think on both sides of the football, which

484
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Speaker 3: is you know, concern going in to last year. It's

485
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Speaker 3: just a matter of staying healthy and putting that into practice.

486
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Speaker 3: So you know, I feel good about them. The thing is,

487
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Speaker 3: the weird thing is is like everybody looks at the

488
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Speaker 3: ASC North and like, well, we got to pick somebody

489
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Speaker 3: to fall out of that group. They can't all make

490
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Speaker 3: the US, and some people turn to the Browns because

491
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Speaker 3: they worry about you know, can Jim Schwartz do what

492
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Speaker 3: he did with that defense again last year? Well, on paper,

493
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Speaker 3: they have all those guys back, so why can't they.

494
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Speaker 3: I know there's a little bit of you know, it

495
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Speaker 3: kind of regresses a little bit from year one to

496
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Speaker 3: the next, just because teams get a book on you

497
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 3: and everything else, and we did see what happened to

498
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Speaker 3: them in the playoffs at Houston. But at the same time,

499
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Speaker 3: you know, when I look at them depth chart wise

500
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Speaker 3: and just roster construction, I thought Andrew Berry had a

501
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Speaker 3: very productive offseason. Wasn't loud, and that's fine. You don't

502
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,200
Speaker 3: want to be the team that makes those you don't

503
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,600
Speaker 3: want to win the offseason because oftentimes that doesn't translate

504
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Speaker 3: into winning football games in the fall. And he got

505
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Speaker 3: the job done with a bunch of key contracts. You know,

506
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Speaker 3: he adjusted Nick Chubb's contract to make sure that he

507
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Speaker 3: can still stay on the team. The wouldn't have to

508
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Speaker 3: cut him because of the cap casualty. They get the

509
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Speaker 3: Amari Cooper deal done and they don't even have any

510
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: years on They just give him more incentives and half

511
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Speaker 3: of his money straight up. And so if you look

512
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Speaker 3: at keeping key players in a core of a team

513
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Speaker 3: that wants to win right now, I think he checked

514
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Speaker 3: every box. So they should feel great about it going

515
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Speaker 3: into camp.

516
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Speaker 2: Yeah, listen, I'm very excited for the team. I think

517
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Speaker 2: the Browns have one of the best last top to

518
00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 2: bottom in the NFL. Obviously, the big question surrounding this

519
00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: team as it was really kind of a year. Agoes,

520
00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:08,360
Speaker 2: can we get a full season out of Deshaun Watson

521
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Speaker 2: and what is that going to look like? We saw

522
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Speaker 2: some glimpses of some very good last year, especially the

523
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Speaker 2: last time we saw him that second alf against the Patriots.

524
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Speaker 2: They bring in Ken Dorsey, You're gonna have an offense

525
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Speaker 2: it's gonna be more eleven personnel, more shotgun, more of

526
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Speaker 2: the things that Deshaun Watson's probably used to and comfortable with.

527
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Speaker 2: So what do you kind of make of from the

528
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Speaker 2: quarterback perspective of this roster from Deshaun with Dorsey and

529
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Speaker 2: some of the changes on offense, Tommy Reese coming in,

530
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Speaker 2: what are you expecting to see from the Browns offensively?

531
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Speaker 2: Now that you know you think about their eleven personnel

532
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 2: grouping pretty talented with you know, Amari Judy, Elijah Moore

533
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Speaker 2: chief and then hopefully Nick Chubb back soon in the backfield.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm curious. I'm curious because you know, when I

535
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Speaker 3: watched Ken Dorsey coordinate that offense in Buffalo, they didn't

536
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Speaker 3: run the ball traditionally well, and it was one of

537
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 3: my big frustrations with them was that they put too

538
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,239
Speaker 3: much in the shoulders of Josh Allen, but that might

539
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,119
Speaker 3: be the best thing that the Browns need, like because

540
00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 3: you need to know what you have in Deshan Wilson.

541
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Speaker 3: And unfortunately, because he got heard last year just when

542
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 3: he was starting to maybe turn a corner, you still

543
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 3: don't know. And so I think, if you're gonna empower

544
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: a quarterback, this is the guy to do so and

545
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,359
Speaker 3: kind of bring new ideas to an offense that needed

546
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Speaker 3: new ideas. And it's just a matter of how do

547
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Speaker 3: you balance the run in the past, we know Nick

548
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 3: Chubb's still coming back from that knee injury. But what

549
00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:26,920
Speaker 3: they did really well is they added depths. They added

550
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 3: depths at running back. I mean they signed a million

551
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Speaker 3: running backs. Jerome Ford still on the rofer. You got

552
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 3: Deontay Forman, nim Hines. You know, if you're strong still back,

553
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 3: like you can see you go down and listen, You're like, wow,

554
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 3: this is like there's a ton of options here because

555
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 3: they don't want to get caught empty ended like they

556
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Speaker 3: did when Chubb went down in Week two last year.

557
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 3: But the same thing it's true about quarterback. You know

558
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 3: last year was go sign Joe Flacco off the street

559
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 3: because you're desperate. Well, now they got Jameis Winston, who's

560
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,400
Speaker 3: got starting experience. You got to tell Hunting who's proven

561
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Speaker 3: himself as a plus backup in Baltimore, and then way

562
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Speaker 3: at the bottom the Dea Stars DCR who already got

563
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,000
Speaker 3: a little bit of experienced last year. So like they're

564
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: in a much better position if things don't well. But again,

565
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 3: it things don't go well, you're you're having a different conversation,

566
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,439
Speaker 3: So it starts with Watson. It's deja bu just like

567
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 3: last year. But they're better prepared for any alternative scenarios.

568
00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,200
Speaker 3: And the hope is that Ken Dorsey with his arrival,

569
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 3: will you know, open up the minds of the offense

570
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:17,439
Speaker 3: and really try to empower his quarterback and see what

571
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Speaker 3: you have exactly.

572
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Speaker 2: And I think that's that's going to be the biggest change, right,

573
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: is that this offense should be more tailored to him

574
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Speaker 2: and you hope that he can be that guy. But

575
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Speaker 2: you mentioned the depth jamis is there Huntley, whether it's

576
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Speaker 2: an asterisk or not, guy was a pro bowler with

577
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Speaker 2: the Baltimore Ravens. And then you got TTR who came along,

578
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,120
Speaker 2: So yeah, feel much better about the depth there on

579
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Speaker 2: that side of the ball. When you kind of look

580
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Speaker 2: at this Browns team, Let's stay on the offensive side.

581
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 2: Obviously we talk quarterback, but what what are the areas

582
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Speaker 2: in your mind where you feel like the Browns are

583
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Speaker 2: in great, great shape and are there any areas that

584
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,760
Speaker 2: you thought think might be questions for the Cleveland Browns.

585
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Speaker 3: I mean, it depends on how much you value running back.

586
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Speaker 4: With the way doors he's gonna run his offense, can

587
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 4: I just say beyond Oh?

588
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Speaker 2: I think Deontay Foreman is going to be excellent in

589
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 2: this eye. He looks great in camp whatever. He's gott

590
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 2: an opportunity to really carry the football. In his career,

591
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: he's been very successful. I think eleven games with nineteen

592
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 2: or more carries. Seven of them he's had more than

593
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 2: one hundred yards, nine of them more than eighty yards,

594
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: and he scored I think eight touchdowns in those games.

595
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Speaker 2: I think that that is an underrated and I love

596
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 2: Kareem and what he gave, but I think there's a

597
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 2: little more juice in that same role with a guy

598
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 2: like Deontay Foreman.

599
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, I definitely think so. And the thing is the

600
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 3: Foreman is when he started his career in Houston, he

601
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: had some popp he just got hurt, and then he

602
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 3: just sent him down this stretch where he had to

603
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 3: figure out how to get healthy and figure out where

604
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 3: he wanted to play, and he ended up with a

605
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: couple of bad teams, you know, Chicago and Carolina. So like,

606
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 3: it's good that he's in this position now, and he's

607
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: good that he's going relied on as like a spellback.

608
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,679
Speaker 3: I mean, somebody who can definitely make a difference. I

609
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: love the addition of nine mines. You know, this is

610
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Speaker 3: the guy that Buffalo went and got because you know,

611
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 3: he was a return guy, and it was like it

612
00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: went and got him because they couldn't run the ball

613
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: well anyway, but he was a speedy return guy. This

614
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 3: guy is a lightning rod out of the backfield, and

615
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 3: he certainly was. You know, they had been of a

616
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 3: thunder and lightning thing with Jonathan Taylor and Hines in

617
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 3: the Apples a few years ago, and I was to

618
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 3: see them break that up. So I like that idea,

619
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Speaker 3: especially if you're going a lot of the love and

620
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: personnel and you're throwing the ball over all over the yard,

621
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,679
Speaker 3: that's the guy you look at. So I you know,

622
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Speaker 3: It just depends on like you have to kind of

623
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 3: set your expectation if Nick Cheb is not going to

624
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 3: come back healthy, you know, from the start of the season,

625
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 3: and you have to be like, all right, let me

626
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 3: lure my expectation and open my mind to a different

627
00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,119
Speaker 3: appearance from the Browns running back. So that's kind of

628
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 3: what I'm getting at with that receiver the top three.

629
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 3: I'm very excited about it. I would love to see

630
00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 3: what Elijah More can do in this offense as opposed

631
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: to how they used him in the past. Obviously he

632
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 3: had some inconsistency issues last season, but he was still.

633
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 2: Getting a seat underneath him there after.

634
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 3: Some trying years in New York with the Jets and

635
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: then beyond them, you know, said Jillman. We saw glimpses,

636
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 3: but like I'm curious to see how do they use

637
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 3: his big body, you know, do they expand his role

638
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: in this offense going forward? So I don't really see

639
00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 3: any weaknesses. I'm not really concerned. I'm a little concerned

640
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 3: about the situation at tackle with Jack Conklin coming back

641
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 3: from injury. But again, you had Dewan Jones, who had

642
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 3: a really good start kind of tailed off you know,

643
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 3: hit a bit of a rookie wall in his first

644
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 3: year in the pros. But I mean, I think that's

645
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 3: a long term answer at either tackle position. So I'm

646
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 3: very curious to see how that all plays out. And

647
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Speaker 3: I'm really glad they went and got Zack Zner because,

648
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 3: like you know, how it is offensive line, you suffer injuries,

649
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,600
Speaker 3: and they've had two iron men and Joel ALTONI on

650
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 3: why Taylor Taylor, But like you're planning for the future

651
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 3: with Vnter because you don't know how much longer Joel's

652
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 3: gonna play, and you're also giving yourself a depth option

653
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 3: the event that you need a backup guard to come in.

654
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Speaker 3: There a guy who came from Michigan who has quite

655
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 3: a pedigree. I really love that take as well. So

656
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: you know, I don't really have a ton of concerns

657
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 3: of the offense because again, it really does just come

658
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 3: down to the quarterback. We'll see what Ken Dorsey can

659
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 3: do with him.

660
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's gonna be fun, and I'm with you. I

661
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 2: think tackle will be interesting to watch. And you know,

662
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 2: I think Dewand is going to be one of those

663
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 2: perennial Pro Bowlers. Just a great kid, great size obviously,

664
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Speaker 2: things that can't even be coached. I think what's interesting

665
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: for this year on the other side is Jed Wills,

666
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 2: who at times has looked like the tenth overall pick

667
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: in the draft and at other times has not battled injuries.

668
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: But this is a massive year for him right nick

669
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Speaker 2: in the sense that his financial future is going to

670
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Speaker 2: be determined in large part by how he performs in

671
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four.

672
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and the way he's positioned right now, he's not

673
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 3: going to cash in like this is a make or

674
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Speaker 3: break here for his pockets and for the Browns and

675
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,480
Speaker 3: their roster construction going forward, which is why you gotta

676
00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 3: feel good about having Dewan, because you just got compident

677
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 3: on an extension. Let's say Will's doesn't work out well,

678
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Speaker 3: then you try to slide to wand over the left side,

679
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 3: and suddenly maybe you have a better option there, Like

680
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Speaker 3: you do have other options. You're not solely relying on him.

681
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Speaker 3: But from Jed's perspective, he's got a cash in this

682
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Speaker 3: year by playing well. So yeah, it's all building up

683
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Speaker 3: for that. But we'll see how when you know what

684
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Speaker 3: happens and you know they can he can figure it out.

685
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: All right, let's flip it to the defensive side of

686
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Speaker 2: the ball. This is the top defense in the league

687
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Speaker 2: a year ago. Internally, I know they feel they brought

688
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 2: back all five edge rushers from a year ago, which

689
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: is incredible. They basically brought the entire interior of their

690
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Speaker 2: defensive line back, in addition to adding Quentin Jefferson, who

691
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 2: has eleven and a half sacks the last two seasons,

692
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 2: and then drafting Mike Hall from Ohio State. So let's

693
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Speaker 2: start with the line. How are you feeling about this

694
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 2: defensive line? Death?

695
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 3: Tons of death. I mean, Mohurst is like in the

696
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Speaker 3: three deep, I Lovehurst, so like, I'm very excited about

697
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 3: that Obo kronquo.

698
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Speaker 2: You know, behind Miles Garrett.

699
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Speaker 3: I think you know, there's there's a ton of death there.

700
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 3: There's a ton of potential. I'm really I really want

701
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 3: to see my call play because Mike Hall was a

702
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 3: guy who at Ohio State didn't have the production numbers,

703
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: but when he flashed, he played like he was and

704
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 3: I loved it as a value pick, and I'm curious

705
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 3: to see how they rotate him in there, because you know,

706
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 3: it's a it's a brutal position to play in football

707
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 3: over a seventeen game season, and you got veterans up

708
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 3: there in Dalvin Tomlinson and Shelby Harris, right, So you

709
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 3: need depth, You need guys to rotate in and who

710
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 3: are going to make an impact. And that's why you

711
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: go get Quinton Jefferson, That's why you have Mohurst, That's

712
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Speaker 3: why you hope that Siakika can kind of figure it out.

713
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: But Mike Hall, how do you rotate him in? Because

714
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Speaker 3: if he's not producing over a large sample size, but

715
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 3: he's got the flashes, maybe he becomes you know, a

716
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 3: bit of a I don't know if it's a Nascar

717
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: package or it's more just hey, in certain situations, you're

718
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: coming in here, or maybe he develops into a guy

719
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Speaker 3: that ends up figuring it out consistently and then you

720
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,600
Speaker 3: have your answer down the road for whatever Shelby Harris

721
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 3: decided to walk away from football. I just love the

722
00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 3: potential of that. I thought that was a great pike.

723
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,560
Speaker 3: And you know, look, if you can't stop the run,

724
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,040
Speaker 3: you can't stop anybody in the NFL.

725
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 4: The Browns obviously did not have a problem with that

726
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 4: last season based on statistics, but it starts in the

727
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 4: trenches and I like the way they're set up. Then

728
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: you get to the second level, and I don't know

729
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 4: if anybody made his big a leap in terms of

730
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Speaker 4: just becoming a dominant game wrecking force on defense like

731
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Speaker 4: Jeremiah Usu Kormoa did a year ago for the Cleveland Browns,

732
00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 4: And then I like the move. I hate losing guys

733
00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 4: like Anthony Walker and Sioni Taki Taki, two leaders, two

734
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 4: just great guys. But Jordan Hicks, the production, the familiarity

735
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,760
Speaker 4: with Schwartz, his ability to play both the run and

736
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 4: the past five straight hundred tackle seasons, he can cover

737
00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: as well as anybody in the league. I feel like

738
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Speaker 4: that might be a big upgrade at that second level.

739
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Speaker 4: What do you say, Nick Schucky.

740
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,959
Speaker 3: He's an Ohio Kids, Lakota West baby. He was he

741
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:08,760
Speaker 3: was in high school when I was in high school.

742
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 5: Jake Leuis, I've known that name.

743
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Speaker 3: I've known that name for fifteen plus years and he's

744
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 3: been and it's because he's been consistent, you know, like

745
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 3: he's just been a solid football player at the collegiate

746
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 3: and at the professional level. And that's really what you needed,

747
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: That's what you kind of had Nancy Walker, but he's

748
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 3: suffered some injuries, which is unfortunate. And Takizaki was actually

749
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 3: a sending right before. You know, he's sent it at

750
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: the right time to be able to make some money. So,

751
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 3: like the big lynch pin of this whole group, I

752
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 3: think the one that's gonna make it go, it's not

753
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Speaker 3: j Okay because you know what you have in him,

754
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: he's a stud. Hicks is going to be consistent. It's

755
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 3: going to be Devin Bush because Devin Bush, you know,

756
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 3: came in the NFL as a highly tied linebacker out

757
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Speaker 3: of Michigan. He's had a few stops, He's kind of

758
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 3: been up and down. But if he can find some

759
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: consistency in this defense, which I think he can. I

760
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: think this short scheme lends itself to Bush's strengths. Then

761
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Speaker 3: suddenly you have a strong linebacking court, which I thought

762
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 3: has been their weakness over the last few years. I

763
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 3: thought that they didn't invest enough in the last few years.

764
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 3: And now you know, you go get some veterans, you

765
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 3: pay them at j Okay and suddenly that top three

766
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:06,959
Speaker 3: you're looking at it and going, you know what, I

767
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: like this group if they can stay healthy I would

768
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: like to see what they can do. And you already

769
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 3: know what you have in the back end. So this

770
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 3: is my big question mark with this defense the last

771
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: few years. I feel better about it right now than

772
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,600
Speaker 3: I did the last couple of years.

773
00:34:17,320 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: So a chance to even potentially be better. So we

774
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: kind of the Browns. You feel like, sounds like you

775
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 2: think this roster is in a good spot. Where would

776
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: you kind of rank this roster excluding quarterback because we

777
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: know that's the biggest question, but take quarterback out of it,

778
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 2: top to bottom, where do you think this roster ranks

779
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 2: in the NFL? Oh?

780
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Speaker 3: Yeah, if we're taking quarterback out of it, I'm looking.

781
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 3: I'm looking. It's probably top five. Yeah, you know it's

782
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 3: your I don't see a lot of weaknesses.

783
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 2: I love what the secondary is.

784
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,719
Speaker 3: I mean, every guy in that in that five DV group,

785
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, Ward Delpit, Thornhill, Emerson knew some all studs.

786
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 3: Cam Mitchell played really well as a youngster. Broddy Cloud brings,

787
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 3: you know, some some veteran presence, and we all know

788
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 3: the preseason that Ronnie Hickman had last year which earned

789
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 3: him a spot, and he was able to make some

790
00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 3: plays along the way, especially late in the I love

791
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,040
Speaker 3: what they have there. We just wint to the whole

792
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 3: offense and as long as you know, again, the key

793
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 3: is staying healthy. But I think that they're set up

794
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 3: for a deeper run because they are deeper as a roster.

795
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 3: It's just and this is gonna be a tough division.

796
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,399
Speaker 3: You know, you saw what Baltimore was and I feel

797
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 3: like they only got better. And Cincinnati's getting Joe Burrow back,

798
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 3: so they're not going anywhere. And then Pittsburgh's a big

799
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 3: question mark, but they may have solved their quarterback issues.

800
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a hell of a ride for

801
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: the Browns this year because every division game is gonna

802
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 3: be a battle. But they are certainly built to go

803
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:35,440
Speaker 3: the long haul with this team, and we'll see, you know, well,

804
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,240
Speaker 3: we'll see it, will you know, you said take quarterback

805
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,759
Speaker 3: out of it, but quarterback will matter above all, but

806
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 3: they've surrounded him with enough talent to find success on

807
00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 3: both sides.

808
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Speaker 2: Taco with Nick Schuk from NFL dot Com. Nick, Chuck,

809
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Speaker 2: you mentioned I was just gonna transition this division. Goodness gracious,

810
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,359
Speaker 2: the Brown's finally feeling as good about themselves as they

811
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,080
Speaker 2: possibly can and you look around and a lot of

812
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 2: people think that the Ravens could end up winning the AFC. Obviously,

813
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 2: Joe Brow when he's healthy, he's gone to the AFC

814
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: Championship game and a Super Bowl. The Steeler mentioned it,

815
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,879
Speaker 2: they didn't have any kind of quarterback play last year

816
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 2: and still made the playoffs. They're they're going to be

817
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 2: better at quarterback with Russell Wilson and Justin Fields. What

818
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 2: do you make of this division? What are kind of

819
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 2: this the things that you're looking at. Let's start with

820
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: the Ravens and I'm gonna throw one thing at you

821
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 2: and get your I feel like they lost a lot

822
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,719
Speaker 2: on defense that people really aren't talking about as much.

823
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: And yes, Derrick Henry, that's a name fantasy, everybody knows it.

824
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 2: That gets a lot of attention on offense. But they

825
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 2: have lost some on defense. But still this is just

826
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 2: a quality football team year in a year out.

827
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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know what they lost in defense? They lost

828
00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,920
Speaker 3: a great defensive coordinator. To know that they lost a

829
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: good linebackers coaches now in Miami and Anthony Weaver like they.

830
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Speaker 6: Were pillaged when it comes from a staffing perscive, and

831
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Speaker 6: that's gonna be the biggest or incident that to maintain

832
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 6: that consistency, because they came on really strong defensive side

833
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 6: in the back half the season, which is a big

834
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Speaker 6: reason when Mike mcgonald got.

835
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Speaker 3: The job in Seattle. So that's a big question mark

836
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: to me because they're another team that's really deep. The

837
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:04,359
Speaker 3: thing is that it's going to be a big test

838
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: of the way they build their roster. Which it's no

839
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 3: speacret to anybody that the Ravens don't pay a lot

840
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 3: of guys. What they do is they get max production

841
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 3: out of butting stars, they let them walk, and they

842
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: draft well to replace them. So that's Matt Judon. You

843
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,920
Speaker 3: can continue to go down the list, But now I

844
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,439
Speaker 3: look at this group right now, and for the first

845
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: time in a while, they went and made a big

846
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: trade to get ro Kwan Smith and he's a key

847
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 3: part of this defense. But I'm looking at other groups,

848
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 3: so I'm thinking Trenton Simpson. That's a guy who you know,

849
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: came to the team I believe last year or so

850
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,400
Speaker 3: and is kind of the question mark in this lineup.

851
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 3: Kyle Van Noys, a veteran who actually had a good

852
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 3: year contributing to this team. And they seem to be

853
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,399
Speaker 3: deeper at corner than they were in previous years, which

854
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: is where they've been crushed by injuries in the past.

855
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 3: Nate Wiggins, you know, runs a super fast forty, but

856
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 3: he's light, he's.

857
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:48,720
Speaker 2: Kind of lanky.

858
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: How does he factor into this defense? As well? You

859
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 3: get Eddie Jackson, who's got a ton of years in

860
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 3: the NFL free safety Marcus Williams, the same things kind

861
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: of true about him on the back half, because they

862
00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,440
Speaker 3: continue to rotate out their safeties like Stone and it

863
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 3: was Jefferson, Tony Jefferson from Arizona at one point. Now

864
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 3: it's Williams and Jackson, and yet they continue to find

865
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 3: ways to figure it out because they draft well, so

866
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:11,760
Speaker 3: we know what you get on offense.

867
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: You know what Lamar brings.

868
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:15,360
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry is going to be your lead back. A

869
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 3: bit of a change in that backfield now with JK.

870
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 3: Dobbins Gus Edwards leaving, but I think it was for

871
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: the best. He got two stud tight ends. They got

872
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 3: a receiving corps that I think could produce. You know,

873
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,320
Speaker 3: ten Walker went to Kent State transfer to North Carolina.

874
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: I like that pick for them as well. They're a

875
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 3: sound roster, and they're the reigning division champs and they're

876
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 3: going to be the team to beat with the Tigant

877
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 3: on their back, and they got a quarterback that's really

878
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,720
Speaker 3: hard to contain. It's just a matter of them staying healthy.

879
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 3: And I hate sound like a broken record, but it

880
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: is about staying healthy. They're another team that's pull for it.

881
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: So I mean, this is the division filled with heavyweights,

882
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 3: no doubt it is.

883
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,239
Speaker 2: And for the Ravens you'd be like, Okay, they lose

884
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 2: Geno Stone he you know, led the league in interceptions,

885
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,720
Speaker 2: and of course he goes down to Cincinnati. You lose

886
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen, he goes to Pittsburgh, Like, can these guys

887
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 2: at least leave the Divisionally's clown. He had the decency

888
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: to go check the money in Carolina and leave at

889
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: least not only the division of the conference.

890
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 3: Yet it doesn't happen here, you know, I like the

891
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 3: majority of my life, I grew up as a Browns fan.

892
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: I'd see the Steelers make moves that were smart and

893
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 3: the Ravens make moves that were smart. I'm like, why

894
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 3: is it always them? And then I he the Steelers

895
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: and the Ravens do the same thing getting clean. You know,

896
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: the Steelers rebuilding their quarterback and I'm like, man, just win.

897
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: You think you got a team down, they come back

898
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 3: and figure it out. So yeah, I mean the Steelers,

899
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 3: I thought they had one of the best offseas in

900
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 3: the NFL. They drafted extremely well. I think Roman Wilson's

901
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 3: going to be a thorn in the Brown side and

902
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,319
Speaker 3: the rest of the AF the North side for a long time.

903
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 3: In that receiving corps. They got two starting linemen and

904
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 3: Jack Frazier and Troy Fatana, which, like, if you think

905
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: about it, you know, depending on two rookies to block

906
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 3: for you is not always the best move. But these

907
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 3: are two higher level offensive line than they were good

908
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,200
Speaker 3: value picks as well. And Peate Wilson. I think Browns

909
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 3: fans are probably gonna want to get their get familiar

910
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 3: with Peyton Wilson because I feel like he even though

911
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,080
Speaker 3: he plays the linebacker and not safety, they could be

912
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 3: used in the Troy palam Alo blitzing role, especially on

913
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 3: passing downs, because he's just still fa He's rangy, he's

914
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 3: got sidelined the sideline speed, and he could be a

915
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: blitzing rocket in this defense. So maybe a great job.

916
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: In the offseason. They get rid of Patrick Peterson, they

917
00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,360
Speaker 3: replaced him with Dante Jackson. They got the youngster and

918
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 3: Joey Porter Junior, who I don't think is quite as

919
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,400
Speaker 3: good as everybody in Pittsburg thinks he is, because he's

920
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: got to work on some things, but he's got a

921
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 3: high ceiling. So yeah, another team that got really good.

922
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: They got better than they were before and is gonna

923
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 3: be a throw on their side.

924
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,719
Speaker 2: Yes, they have gotten better. And then it comes to

925
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,360
Speaker 2: fashionist to Joe Burrow with the new fresh Cody Roads

926
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:36,359
Speaker 2: hair and the Cincinnati Bengals, who are pretty good. Maybe

927
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: some issues with t Higgins. Brewin Mixing's gone now, but

928
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 2: that could ultimately end up being additioned by subtraction. I

929
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: like Chase Brown. What do you make of this Bengals

930
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,439
Speaker 2: offseason and this team headed into this year?

931
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know the max some thing, maybe raise an eyebrow.

932
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,400
Speaker 3: I understand captinstraints. They got to pay a Burrow a

933
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 3: bunch of money, which they did. They're gonna have to

934
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 3: pay Jamar Chaiz. They franchise tag t Higgins. Higgins this

935
00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:00,879
Speaker 3: is probably his last year there. He'll get paid somewhere

936
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 3: else as long as he is healthy and producers. They

937
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,239
Speaker 3: kind of drafted, you know, to replace them. They get

938
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:08,560
Speaker 3: Ja main Burden out of Alabama, the Andre Josevis from Princeton,

939
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,839
Speaker 3: you know, stepped in certain spots and made some nice

940
00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 3: plays for them last year. But the running back man,

941
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 3: that's just that that stuck with me when I looked

942
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 3: at this roster because I'm thinking me a seventh round

943
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 3: pick for a guy who had fourteen hundred scrimmage yards

944
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,800
Speaker 3: last year, like Joe Mixon, who's been about as consistent

945
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 3: as he gets. Maybe not the flashiest, but like you

946
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:27,839
Speaker 3: knew that he'd be there to take a carrier of

947
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:29,960
Speaker 3: a swing pass or a screen or something on third

948
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 3: and they pick up a first down when you desperately

949
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 3: needed to stop. That guy's gone. He ran hard, and

950
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 3: that guy has gone. So it's a lot to put

951
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 3: on the shoulders of Joe Burrow. He's got the shoulders

952
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,399
Speaker 3: for it, he's got the blonde hair for he looks

953
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 3: like Eminem from nineteen ninety nine cna Is Award, you know,

954
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 3: video Music Awards. But if there's one team I think

955
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 3: that I look at from a roster, construction standpoint and think,

956
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 3: and it might be some tracks yere. I could see

957
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: it being the Bengals, but it's another strong team for

958
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: the most part. There's a little bit room, a little.

959
00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 4: Bit more room for something, and I think the other

960
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 4: teams in this division absolutely talk with Nick Chuck, all right,

961
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 4: we'll get you out of here on this one.

962
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 2: Great coverage. Obviously, appreciate the time so much. What's your

963
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 2: favorite non AFC North storyline around the league or thing

964
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 2: that you are excited to see play out? What is

965
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: kind of the thing outside of the AFC North that

966
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 2: you're really excited to see here in this twenty twenty

967
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:20,560
Speaker 2: four season.

968
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,359
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I want to stay IF North because

969
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 3: I want to know when Russell Wilson loses a job

970
00:42:25,000 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: and Justine Fields as that happens.

971
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 2: But I still can't believe you could get Justin Fields

972
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 2: for a bag of doritos. I don't know, I know,

973
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 2: it's stupefying me.

974
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,959
Speaker 3: The Steelers traded Kenny Picket. I looked at my body

975
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 3: and goo Field's. He's gonna be a Steeler in less

976
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 3: than twenty four hours, and it all took him sixteen hours.

977
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,520
Speaker 2: You could go to the audio of Brown's Daily the

978
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 2: day Kenny Pickett was traded. It happened while we were

979
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: on the air. It happened between one and three, and

980
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: I go, oh, no, Field is going to be a Steeler,

981
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 2: I said immediately on the air upon her hearing that.

982
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: So you and I of like mine and unfortunate. It

983
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: is one of those where you hope that if you

984
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: spoke in new existence, maybe it would just not work. Well, No,

985
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 2: we were unfortunately right on it.

986
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I oh no is the perfect example, the perfect

987
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 3: reaction to that too. I mean there's a number of storylines.

988
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,680
Speaker 3: You know, who are the Bills? Who are the Bills

989
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:15,120
Speaker 3: right now? Because they lost to Fon Dings, They lost

990
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 3: their chief states, He's gonna have been there for a

991
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 3: long time. They're in a position where they need to produce,

992
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 3: and yet they've had some turnover, and it's going to

993
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: be interesting to see if they can maintain that same

994
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 3: level of play. Aaron Rodgers is the back of the

995
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 3: Deets that's got a great defense. Can they produce? I

996
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 3: look over at the Eagles, who are they at this point?

997
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: You know their offense is supposedly ninety five percent new

998
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: With Kellen Moore now calling the plays, and we know

999
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 3: the rust that they ran too late in the season

1000
00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 3: last year. That's one that we're going to track all year.

1001
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 3: The Bears, obviously, with Kayleb Williams and the productive offseason

1002
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,799
Speaker 3: they have, will they live up to the hype? And

1003
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: when does JJ McCarthy take the field in Minnesota, Because

1004
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 3: as it sounds right now, Sam Darnold's the starter. And look,

1005
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 3: this is a guy who I've talked about this at

1006
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 3: length already, but this is the guy who I thought

1007
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,600
Speaker 3: intangible makes sense. But when you're drafting guys on intangibles,

1008
00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 3: you get concerned because you need the natural talent first.

1009
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 3: And I don't know if he I know, we won

1010
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 3: a kind of games at Michigan, and I love the kids' personality,

1011
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 3: but to take that high you're putting a lot of

1012
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,160
Speaker 3: pressure on him right away. So I'm curious to see

1013
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: how long it takes for him to take the feeling

1014
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 3: and if he can produce. And then in Denver, they're

1015
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 3: split in reps between three quarterbacks right now. They drafted

1016
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 3: bon Nicks in the first round. They're giving Stidham and

1017
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 3: some reps. They're giving Wilson some reps. Wilson, you know,

1018
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 3: they out the passed off from New York. There's all

1019
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 3: kinds of storylines to follow all over the league. And

1020
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,959
Speaker 3: even Tyler Murray, you're fully healthy next year, fully healthy,

1021
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 3: and Jup and Gannon in that in that system out

1022
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 3: there in Arizona. Curious to see again if they can

1023
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 3: produce not a playoff contender, but a team that I

1024
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 3: will enjoy watching when I get stuck with some awful

1025
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: one PM game at some point in the season. So

1026
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: there's a ton to look out for, all.

1027
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 2: Right, Nick, I lied one last one. I have been fascinated,

1028
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 2: and I'll that's all I'm gonna say. I'm not going

1029
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 2: to tell you why, or how or what. I'm pretty

1030
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,240
Speaker 2: sure you get it. With the off season hard knocks,

1031
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 2: look at the New York Giants and the fact that

1032
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: this is airing on television, your thoughts, well.

1033
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 3: You know, I think you come from a perspective and

1034
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 3: that you are in a team's building yet you're not

1035
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 3: on the football side, but you're very in tune with

1036
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 3: all things football. And you walk past those people in

1037
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 3: the building now they guard those things like Fort Knox.

1038
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 3: I know, I get it, but you're still there. You're

1039
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: there with the players, you know what's going on, you

1040
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 3: understand the human element of it. And yet now we're

1041
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 3: finally getting an inside look at how off season negotiations

1042
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: work out. You know, we didn't find out about Saquon

1043
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: until we found out that he was signing with the Eagles,

1044
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: which was like, whoa division swap? That's that's dramatic, But

1045
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 3: you didn't know that. It took a phone call from

1046
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 3: Saquon's agent to tell Joe Shane that, hey, by the way,

1047
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 3: we got an offer, we're going elsewhere, and Shane's despertly

1048
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 3: asking him is it in the division? Is it in

1049
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 3: the division? And they wouldn't even say. Like, things get

1050
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 3: they get contentious, and information's traded, information is held from

1051
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 3: somebody who needs it, and it's frustrating for some teams.

1052
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: And it's especially fascinating because it's the Giants. It's a

1053
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,920
Speaker 3: team that seems to not be able to get out

1054
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: of its own way over the last basically the last

1055
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,879
Speaker 3: half decade to a decade. And you see again why

1056
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 3: team struggle because it's really not that easy. It's you're right,

1057
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 3: I can't believe it's being aired too obviously, it's edited

1058
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: down and it's got to be approved and everything else,

1059
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:10,400
Speaker 3: but it's captivating and it's a great idea. It's a

1060
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 3: fresh take on Hard Knocks that felt a little stale.

1061
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 3: I think Hard Knocks the AFC North is also going

1062
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,280
Speaker 3: to be very interesting in season, covering an entire division.

1063
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 3: Whotos to the people at NFL Films and at HBO

1064
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 3: who are taking a fresh approach to formulaic production that

1065
00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 3: always wins awards, but maybe it doesn't captivate you like

1066
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: it did in the past. I think we're gonna end

1067
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 3: for a great year starting with the giants of Hard

1068
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 3: Knocks content.

1069
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 2: There it is, folks, the great Nick Shook so generous.

1070
00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 2: I owe you one, buddy. Thank you. Hopefully we'll get

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Speaker 2: on the stick soon and get ready for what should

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Speaker 2: be a great Brown season. I'm very excited to get

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Speaker 2: out to the Greenbrier and finally see this football team really

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Speaker 2: get ready here and gearing up for the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four season. Follow him on Twitter obviously, Nick Shook legend,

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Speaker 2: read him at NFL dot com. Appreciate you, buddy. I

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Speaker 2: could it be it's at the nickshook on X, I

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Speaker 2: should say, since I'm talking like it was four four

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Speaker 2: years ago at the Nick Shook, Nick Schuck, thank you

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Speaker 2: so much.

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Speaker 3: Brother always Hey, it's prosplay now, so we got to

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Speaker 3: get down and enjoy the time out there. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: we'll be in contact as you get your first listen

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Speaker 3: to this team.

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Speaker 2: By the way, I love the fact that on your

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Speaker 2: ex profile your top picture, the bigger picture is it's

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Speaker 2: a couple of former Browns, you sitting down chopping it

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Speaker 2: up with Larry Ogan joby well.

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Speaker 3: You know, I gotta give a tip of the cap

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Speaker 3: to the photography legend himself, Matt Starkey, for capturing that one.

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Speaker 3: I never looked better than when I'm in front of

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Speaker 3: Matt Starkey's camera.

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Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what, you look almost as big

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Speaker 2: as Larry Oogan joby well.

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Speaker 3: Why do you think the players like me back in

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Speaker 3: those days?

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Speaker 2: That's right, the muscles never lie. Nick Schuck, thanks so much.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll be back with more Cleveland Browns Daily

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Speaker 2: Zigurr with you give a en route to the Greenbrier

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Speaker 2: and the Browns will be headed there tomorrow, which is

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Speaker 2: certainly going to be very exciting. Again, big thanks to

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Speaker 2: for one night only. All right, little bit of news

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Speaker 2: from the Cleveland Browns. While we were talking with Nick Shook,

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Speaker 2: they just let us know, actually four minutes ago, the

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Speaker 2: Browns have made the following roster moves. They have signed

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Speaker 2: defensive end Jeremiah Martin and tackle chim Okafour. They have

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Speaker 2: waived linebacker Caleb Johnson Martin sixty three to two sixty five.

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Speaker 2: The name might sound familiar with. Signed by the Browns

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Speaker 2: as an undrafted free agent last year, spent part of

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Speaker 2: his rookie season on the Giants practice squad. He will

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Speaker 2: wear number sixty. OKA four is officially in his first

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Speaker 2: NFL season out of Benedictine. Originally signed by Philadelphia as

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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent twenty twenty three, He also spent

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Speaker 2: time with the Minnesota during his rookie season. The Browns

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Speaker 2: worked him out last year, they worked about this offseason.

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Speaker 2: They bring him in now. Remember I was talking earlier

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Speaker 2: about two tackles opening up on the pup list Conklin

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Speaker 2: and Wills. You need more depth this time of year.

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Speaker 2: So that gets a OKA four in here and then

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Speaker 2: a defensive end for jere Martin. Jeremi Martin. Look, it's

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00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 2: gonna be it's a long shot, right, but he's just

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Speaker 2: trying to stay in the program. Obviously, the Browns sign

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Speaker 2: him as an undrafted free agent, they get a chance

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Speaker 2: to bring him back, they do that. But you look

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Speaker 2: at that defensive end room. You've got Miles z Darius Obo,

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Speaker 2: Alex Right, Isaiah Maguire is your top five, and Isaiah

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Speaker 2: Thomas is a darn good number six, not to mention

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Speaker 2: Sam Kamaras. So you got a lot going on in

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00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 2: that room. It'll be a long way tough road for

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Speaker 2: Jeremiah Martin. But these are again camp bodies and guys

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Speaker 2: who have an opportunity to shock the world and solidify

1147
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a career for themselves. All right,

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Speaker 2: when we come back, we're kicking off our number two

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Speaker 2: with the sideline reporter for your Cleveland Browns, Jerrod Cherry,

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Speaker 2: my partner. He starts us off our number two Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily on this Wednesday before the Browns head to

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Speaker 2: the Greenbrier.

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally bed Now

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Speaker 2: Welcome back to our number two of Cleveland Brown's Daily,

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Speaker 2: brought to you by Bally Betta, sports betting partner of

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Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns. And you some little bit of news

1158
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,440
Speaker 2: we got you that earlier, just to reset it for you.

1159
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,200
Speaker 2: The brown have started this off season by getting Amari

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00:51:03,239 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: Cooper's contract done. He has reported a training camp. The

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Speaker 2: Browns also placed Nahem Hines running back on the NFI

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00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: Non football injury list with the knee, as well as

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Speaker 2: cornerback Greg Newsom with a hamstring on the physically unable

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Speaker 2: to perform less, safety d Anthony Bell with a shin,

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Speaker 2: running back Nick Chubb knee, tackle Jack Conklin knee, defensive

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Speaker 2: tackle Dalvin Tomlinson knee, and tackle Jed Will's knee. Obviously,

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Speaker 2: it's better to have these guys out now than in

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Speaker 2: the season, and hopefully we will get all of them

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Speaker 2: back soon. All players remain on the active roster and

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Speaker 2: are eligible to be activated upon passing a physical time.

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Speaker 2: Now to go back to the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought

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Speaker 2: of the Cleveland Browns. Keep It Twisted Cleveland, I am

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Speaker 2: joined by my good friend our sideline reporters we get

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Speaker 2: ready for the twenty twenty four season on the Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Radio Network, as well as basically just the man

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Speaker 2: with a plan jacked, great human being, the great Gerrod

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Speaker 2: Cherry Kohose of NAT as well. What's up, Jerrod?

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Speaker 7: What some Nate dog man? I've been enjoying you wrestling

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Speaker 7: my man.

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Speaker 2: But yoh, what'd you think about that drug. What you think.

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Speaker 7: I loved it, man, I had to repost it. I

1183
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 7: loved it so much, so I was very impressed.

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Speaker 2: ZWO Right, I appreciate the zwoh. Yeah, man, a little

1185
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:21,360
Speaker 2: lifelong dream coming true. It was. It was pretty awesome

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Speaker 2: to be in there with the Hall of Famer and

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Speaker 2: I got it, to be honest with you, being Joe

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Speaker 2: Jeff Jarrett was. It was awesome being in there with him.

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Speaker 2: It was a little scary being in there with Suttenham Sing,

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Speaker 2: who's probably one of the biggest people, if not the

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Speaker 2: biggest person I've ever seen that close, and certainly the

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Speaker 2: biggest person to ever beat me up at any point

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Speaker 2: in my life. Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Man, it was your tall individual and to see guys

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Speaker 7: basically a couple of inches tall than you just gives

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Speaker 7: you an idea of how massive and also how physically

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Speaker 7: from a prowess standpoint, those guys did have. But you

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Speaker 7: held it down with men like you said.

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Speaker 2: I needed it more than they needed And as I

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Speaker 2: said it, I only had to be better than them

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Speaker 2: for three seconds. Now I was and boom one two, three,

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Speaker 2: one to oh, retiring off into the sunset one and oh.

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Speaker 2: As a professional wrestler, so very pleased with that, I admit, yes,

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Speaker 2: thank you for the support. So, dude, here we are

1205
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 2: a year ago, you and I were headed to the Greenbrier.

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00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 2: It was a long time in West Virginia as this

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00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,480
Speaker 2: season got underway. But as you sit here a year later,

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00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, kind of where are you at with this

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00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns team and what has been really? You know,

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Speaker 2: especially now that the Amari situation is already yourself an

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Speaker 2: incredibly quiet offseason.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's exactly what you want. That's the sign

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Speaker 7: of organization doing things the right way. You don't want

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Speaker 7: headlines talking about who was here doing that, or who's

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Speaker 7: about to get fired, who's gonna get hired. You want quiet,

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Speaker 7: you want serenity. You don't want headlines whatsoever, especially going

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Speaker 7: into camp, because normally that's a bad thing. So my expectations, Nathan,

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Speaker 7: to b frank with you or through the roof, I

1219
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,960
Speaker 7: have high expectations with the football team. I expect Deshaun

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Speaker 7: Watson to return to form, him to be out there

1221
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,719
Speaker 7: balling out. And again I see a situation where when

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Speaker 7: you look at this roster, you can pinpoint every position

1223
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 7: and say there's a playmaker on it, and I think.

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Speaker 2: That's what's exciting about this. I was just talking with

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Speaker 2: Nick Schuk FROMNFL dot com, former Cleve Brown staff writer,

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Speaker 2: and he's the top five roster in the NFL. There

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Speaker 2: it is, So it's very in this case to me,

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Speaker 2: We've got that roster, it is complete, and now it's

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Speaker 2: about putting it together and then about staying healthy. And

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Speaker 2: obviously that is so so important for this football team

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00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: to stay healthy. We already saw, you know, Greg News,

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Speaker 2: some Dalvin Tomlinson guys we didn't expect to not be

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Speaker 2: available at the start of training camp. They've got injuries

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Speaker 2: right now.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and you don't want to hear that, and you

1236
00:54:42,840 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 7: hope that the recovery process is one that's speedy because

1237
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,360
Speaker 7: you don't want to Again, you don't want to start

1238
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 7: camp with guys being injured, but sometimes that does take place.

1239
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Speaker 7: What you don't want to hear, though, is that some

1240
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Speaker 7: guy needs surgery, because when you start having those conversations,

1241
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 7: then you can pretty much eliminate them either for half

1242
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 7: the season or the entirety of this season. But we're

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Speaker 7: not getting those type of reports, So that's a good thing.

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Speaker 2: It certainly is a very good thing I wanted to

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Speaker 2: ask you about this, So I was, I don't know

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Speaker 2: if you heard about my crazy travel issues trying to

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Speaker 2: get out of Atlanta with this delta outage and eventually

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Speaker 2: get into a rental car. So I had a lot

1249
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Speaker 2: of time in the car and I got to listen

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Speaker 2: to one of your former teammates, Mike Rabel, talk a

1251
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Speaker 2: great deal about you know, what he's doing with the Browns.

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Speaker 2: Who's on parton my take, and I would urge all

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Speaker 2: Browns fans to go out there and listen to that.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Mike Rabel talking about coming to the

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Speaker 2: Browns and and the opportunity here, And you know, from

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Speaker 2: your perspective, when you can add a guy like that

1257
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 2: to the staff, what does that what does that do

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Speaker 2: for the team, and and what's what's Mike Rabel bring.

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Speaker 7: Well perspective first and foremost in that one, he was

1260
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 7: game planning against you at some point or possible of

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00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 7: doing just that, and so he has ability to be

1262
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 7: that outsider now looking in. But now he's technically an

1263
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 7: insider because he's a part of the staff, so to speak,

1264
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Speaker 7: and that he has burying roles with the organization. But

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Speaker 7: what you get with Rabel from what I know of

1266
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Speaker 7: him as a teammate and when I know of him

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Speaker 7: as a person, and the coach is a guy who's

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Speaker 7: very smart, highly intelligent, gets it, understands, knows what a

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Speaker 7: team player looks like, knows what success looks like from

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Speaker 7: a football team and what it takes and what's required

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Speaker 7: of you. Knows what a good practice week looks like,

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00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 7: knows what good preparation looks like, knows what a game

1273
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 7: plan can do to help you win a football game.

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00:56:24,239 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 7: So you're getting another mind into your room. And on

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Speaker 7: top of that, he knows the importance of being collaborative,

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00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 7: he knows importance of being a team player. He knows

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00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 7: all those things. So he can addhere to those principles

1278
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 7: and fit right in and help you again, just add

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Speaker 7: more brain power to the brain trust that we already

1280
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 7: have in Bria. So that's a great hire when you

1281
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,799
Speaker 7: have a guy of his talent right now sitting on

1282
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 7: the sideline, not in the coaching ranks, but helping us out.

1283
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, and he said, you know his job, and you

1284
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 2: know some of it. He's working with, you know the

1285
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,200
Speaker 2: tight ends, he's working with, the linebackers, he's working with

1286
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 2: special teams. He's doing special projects for Kevin Sefanski, He's

1287
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 2: working with Andrew Berry, he's doing things of the HASLMS

1288
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,319
Speaker 2: as well, And I just thought to myself, man, what

1289
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 2: an unbelievable resource. Now, he did say on pardon my take,

1290
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:08,799
Speaker 2: that he will not have a role on game day

1291
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,359
Speaker 2: because I think part of the he just didn't want

1292
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,440
Speaker 2: to be day. He said, they've got it down on

1293
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 2: game day. I don't want to be you know, a

1294
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: hindrance to that or even a discission doubt. Yeah, so

1295
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 2: he is he's not going to have a role on

1296
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,480
Speaker 2: game day, but he's like, I will do everything I

1297
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 2: can to get this team ready every single week, you know,

1298
00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 2: in my role leading up to it. I just think

1299
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 2: it's such an invaluable resource to have and it speaks

1300
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:35,040
Speaker 2: to me so highly of And when you get an extension,

1301
00:57:35,040 --> 00:57:37,400
Speaker 2: obviously that helps. But this was this was announced well

1302
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: before Kevin Sefanski did get his extension. That the confidence

1303
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: and the comfort Kevin Sefanski has in the fact that

1304
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,560
Speaker 2: he is the leader of this organization.

1305
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 7: Right and Kevin two time Coaching of the Year award

1306
00:57:49,520 --> 00:57:51,800
Speaker 7: winner in the National Football League should not be looking

1307
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 7: over his shoulder by any stretch of imagination. And when

1308
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 7: you think about that serenity that we talked about earlier

1309
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,880
Speaker 7: and what's been brought here with his presence along with

1310
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 7: Andrew Berry, and what that represents is the following. We

1311
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 7: have a situation where we're not hiring and firing coaches.

1312
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 7: We have a situation where we have a coach who

1313
00:58:10,280 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 7: has strong enough thoughts to say you know what and

1314
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 7: security that, hey, I can bring in a Mike Vrabel

1315
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 7: because I don't see him as someone trying to take

1316
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,640
Speaker 7: my job six years ago, seven years ago, eight years ago,

1317
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 7: ten years ago, Nathan. We could not do that because

1318
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,439
Speaker 7: the whole mentality back then was it's about me. It's

1319
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:31,680
Speaker 7: not team over self. It's about how can I get

1320
00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:34,720
Speaker 7: power and take over the Cleveland Browns and whatever position

1321
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 7: I am, being a coach or a GM So Kevin

1322
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 7: Stefanski certainly displays the idea of what it means to

1323
00:58:41,040 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 7: be collaborative, and he also displays what it means to

1324
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,560
Speaker 7: be secure and confident in what you are doing. And also,

1325
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 7: again with Rabel being there, I love the fact that

1326
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 7: they're taking advantage of his brain power. But here's the

1327
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 7: thing too, we don't talk enough about it's really games

1328
00:58:56,360 --> 00:59:02,160
Speaker 7: are one on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. Oh yes, and yes,

1329
00:59:02,200 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 7: you play him out on Sunday. And I know that

1330
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 7: sounds foreign and weird to people, but that's where you

1331
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 7: put the work in. That's where you get the preparation.

1332
00:59:09,040 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 7: That's when you get the job done. Because if you

1333
00:59:11,080 --> 00:59:13,400
Speaker 7: go on to Saturday or Sunday thinking okay, and then

1334
00:59:13,480 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 7: we finally figured it out, that walkthrough was incredible. Before

1335
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 7: we got on the plane or before we got on

1336
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,280
Speaker 7: the bus ahead to the hotel, you're kidding yourself. It's

1337
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,880
Speaker 7: what you do on Wednesday, Thursday and Friday that makes

1338
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 7: a differences far as how are you going to be

1339
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 7: a success on the football feel as a team come

1340
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 7: Sunday or Monday or Thursday.

1341
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,400
Speaker 2: I love it, And you're talking to somebody who knows it.

1342
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 2: The three time, three time, three time Super Bowl champion

1343
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 2: Gerrod Cherry joining us right now, so in that vein. Obviously,

1344
00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 2: it is great for the Cleveland Browns that we've got Vrabel,

1345
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 2: that he is here, he's dispensing his knowledge all of it.

1346
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,200
Speaker 2: It's a big, big win. I don't know if you

1347
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: saw the story today that it sounds like Kyle Shanahan

1348
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:54,440
Speaker 2: basically offered Bill Belichick the same type of a gig

1349
00:59:54,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 2: with the forty nine ers. In fact, he said to him,

1350
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,400
Speaker 2: you do whatever you want to do. We would just

1351
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: love to have you as a part of our program.

1352
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:06,480
Speaker 2: And Bill Belichick turned them down. Are you surprised that

1353
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick did not say, sure, let's let me go

1354
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 2: come with one of the best offensive minds in the

1355
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,600
Speaker 2: league to prepare himself for next year. I mean, he's

1356
01:00:14,600 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 2: gonna be a head coach next year, you know it.

1357
01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 2: But I was kind of surprised by that. But at

1358
01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:20,160
Speaker 2: the same time, I was happy about it as well.

1359
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 3: Well.

1360
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 7: I was definitely happy about it too, because you do

1361
01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 7: not want that brain trust working together. You do not

1362
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 7: want those problems. You have one of the greatest defensive

1363
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 7: minds of all time and a guy who's in the

1364
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 7: process of process rather of established himself as one of

1365
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,680
Speaker 7: the best offensive minds of all time. But here's the

1366
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:40,840
Speaker 7: thing with Bill. I think Bill is reading the script

1367
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 7: and he realizes that, Hey, I just need a national exposure.

1368
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:45,160
Speaker 7: I just need to sound like the smartest guy in

1369
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 7: a room, which he more unlikely will be on these

1370
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 7: various shows that he's gonna be a part of and

1371
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 7: show personality and show insight and what's that gonna do.

1372
01:00:52,840 --> 01:00:55,120
Speaker 7: That's gonna lend to the idea of why isn't this

1373
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,680
Speaker 7: guy coaching for our team? When you find one of

1374
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 7: these squads, is gonna be three and fourteen, two in

1375
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:04,880
Speaker 7: fifteen or sure six and eleven, he's gonna be the

1376
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 7: one you're looking towards because he's gonna have the answers

1377
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:09,400
Speaker 7: and he's gonna have the insights. So I think he's

1378
01:01:09,400 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 7: doing the right thing from a positioning standpoint, to put

1379
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 7: himself in a spot to where he's visible, but but

1380
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 7: doing what Brave's doing. Brave's still much younger than Bill,

1381
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 7: so Rage can do this and still be in a

1382
01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 7: position where he's seen as attractive because obviously he can

1383
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 7: play off the success of what the Browns will do

1384
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,040
Speaker 7: this upcoming season. And not to say Bill could do

1385
01:01:29,080 --> 01:01:30,800
Speaker 7: that with the forty nine ers. I just think from

1386
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 7: an optic standpoint, Nate Dog, it looks better for Bill

1387
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 7: to be talking and looks better for Mike to be

1388
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,560
Speaker 7: active within the organization there it is.

1389
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,720
Speaker 2: That's why That's why Gerid, That's why Way pay Gerid

1390
01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 2: the big box. Nobody knows those guys better than Gerard

1391
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: Cherry and he joins us as always by the twist

1392
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 2: on the twisted t hard iced tea hotline. Gerard, all right,

1393
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:53,400
Speaker 2: we're gonna talk a little bit about the Browns on

1394
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 2: offense and some of the changes there at the wide

1395
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: receiver position. Some continuity back or you know, you think

1396
01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: about Amari coming off of a career year back as

1397
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore who also had a career year, but I

1398
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: think is even a better fit in this offense. The

1399
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 2: Browns are gonna be running this year. You trade for

1400
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy Center. Tillman's another year in the system. David

1401
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:13,440
Speaker 2: bell Is another year in the system and showed a

1402
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 2: little bit of flash towards the end of that year.

1403
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 2: What do you kind of make of this Brown's wide

1404
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 2: receiver room right now?

1405
01:02:19,360 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 7: What I make of it is this diverse and that's

1406
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,080
Speaker 7: what you like. You want to have a receiver room

1407
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 7: in which, as a dB you're seeing yourself. Okay, they

1408
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 7: got the quick twitch guy, they got the undersized guy,

1409
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 7: they got the big possession receiver type guy. They have

1410
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,520
Speaker 7: the consummate pro can run any route and make it

1411
01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,000
Speaker 7: look different. Every time guy. So when you have a

1412
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 7: diverse receiving room, it makes your job so much harder

1413
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 7: as a defensive back and as a defensive coordinator in

1414
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 7: that how do you prepare because you're gonna get different things.

1415
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,360
Speaker 7: It's hard to anticipate. Ultimately, when you have a diverse

1416
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,760
Speaker 7: receiver room, you can't just pinpoint and say they're gonna

1417
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 7: do this, because when you have a diverse receiving room

1418
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 7: allows you to do what a multitude of things. So

1419
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,680
Speaker 7: I love the fact that there's so much diversity in

1420
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 7: that receiver room from a size standpoint and from a

1421
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 7: skill set standpoint as well.

1422
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:11,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think it's gonna be exciting. I think

1423
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna be three receivers on the field the most

1424
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,120
Speaker 2: a lot of the time. And you think about, you know,

1425
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:18,800
Speaker 2: your top three receivers. Amari first rounder, Judy first rounder,

1426
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:21,000
Speaker 2: Elijah Moore was the second pick of the second round.

1427
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:25,000
Speaker 2: So you're talking about guys with real pedigree coming out

1428
01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200
Speaker 2: of you know, big programs. Obviously two of them from Alabama,

1429
01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,720
Speaker 2: one from Old Miss in the SEC Tillmanek he's an

1430
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: SEC guy as well. That usually when the NFL, of course,

1431
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 2: they're busts at every level, but usually when you're regarded

1432
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:43,920
Speaker 2: as that highly of an athlete that there's an intrinsic

1433
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,000
Speaker 2: talent there. Now has it been realized to the full

1434
01:03:46,040 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: potential for Judy and Elijah Moore? Probably not yet, but

1435
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 2: could it be absolutely And it feels like this offense

1436
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:55,240
Speaker 2: is gonna give them an opportunity to showcase that because

1437
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:56,920
Speaker 2: we have three of the best receivers in the league

1438
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 2: working against man coverage.

1439
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:01,720
Speaker 7: Yeah. I love how you phrased it, because the fact

1440
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:03,560
Speaker 7: of the matter is when you find yourself in a

1441
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 7: situation when you're drafted and you're in an organization, that's

1442
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,880
Speaker 7: a mess. And when you think about Elijah's situation he's

1443
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 7: with the Jets, that's a mess. When you think about

1444
01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 7: judy situation with the Broncos, with all due respect, that

1445
01:04:16,920 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 7: was a mess. The quarterback situation was not one in

1446
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,040
Speaker 7: which there was stability, and you put yourself in a

1447
01:04:23,040 --> 01:04:25,600
Speaker 7: spot to where you have stability and you have people

1448
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,920
Speaker 7: who know what the heck they're doing that allows you

1449
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 7: to flourish. It is so hard and so challenging to

1450
01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 7: be a productive football player on a bad football team.

1451
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 7: It's just one of the hardest things to do, and

1452
01:04:37,240 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 7: we don't put enough emphasis in talking about what that

1453
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 7: represents because we've experienced it here. How problematic was it

1454
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 7: for us when we had quarterback here, quarterback there, head

1455
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,520
Speaker 7: coach there, offensive coordinator there. We were not good on offense.

1456
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 7: And so these guys come from a situation more in

1457
01:04:53,520 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 7: Judy in particular, where they have the instability. So just

1458
01:04:56,560 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 7: imagine with the talent that they've displayed in the past

1459
01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:02,560
Speaker 7: and flashes that they've shown, that that becomes consistent. Now

1460
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,560
Speaker 7: you're talking about guys who are knocking on a door

1461
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 7: to get more consideration and taking serious as wide receivers

1462
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:09,360
Speaker 7: in the National Football League.

1463
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you, And look, it's an opportunity, right. I mean,

1464
01:05:13,120 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 2: in Jerry Judy's case, he came here, he already signed

1465
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 2: the contract. But it really is that opportunity to cement

1466
01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 2: himself as you know, being that guy that people thought

1467
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:23,960
Speaker 2: he would be when he was drafted out of Alabama

1468
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,600
Speaker 2: as one of the top you know, wide receivers in

1469
01:05:26,640 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 2: that draft, right, And I think there is a lot

1470
01:05:28,920 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 2: of opportunity and I think there is something to prove

1471
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 2: for a lot of these guys. I think Amari Cooper

1472
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,800
Speaker 2: is the one guy he say, Okay, Amari doesn't have

1473
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,040
Speaker 2: anything left to prove. Now, he probably wants to say, well,

1474
01:05:37,080 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: I'm in the last year of my deal. I want

1475
01:05:38,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: to prove that for another big deal, right. But and

1476
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:43,440
Speaker 2: that's a very important thing to want to prove. But

1477
01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 2: you know, I like that. I like the idea that

1478
01:05:46,240 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 2: we've got guys that are going to be hungry to show,

1479
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:52,120
Speaker 2: you know, what they're capable of doing.

1480
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,680
Speaker 7: And that's so crucial because one of the things that

1481
01:05:55,720 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 7: you concern yourself with as a football coach is that

1482
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,040
Speaker 7: you have to measure the level of hungriness. And what

1483
01:06:04,080 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 7: I mean by that for those out there listening, is

1484
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 7: that sometimes when you have success, you come back not

1485
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 7: as hungry. I've seen situations where people have won the

1486
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 7: Super Bowl and they'll come back as hungry. They're saturated,

1487
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 7: they're satisfied. You can't have that. And we have success

1488
01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:22,520
Speaker 7: last year, and you're hoping that the mentality is man,

1489
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:24,920
Speaker 7: going to the first round of playoffs and getting bumped

1490
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,360
Speaker 7: by Houston is not enough.

1491
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 2: We want more.

1492
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 7: We want beyond that, and we're gonna go out there

1493
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:31,440
Speaker 7: and show the hunger. We're going to be the hunter,

1494
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,240
Speaker 7: not the hunted and have that type of mentality, and

1495
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:36,400
Speaker 7: when you bring that to the table, and when that's

1496
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 7: the collective mentality in the locker room, that's what stems success.

1497
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:43,439
Speaker 7: So you're definitely right in that Judy as well as

1498
01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 7: Moore have something to prove and they should be hungry

1499
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 7: because what they want to do is be in a

1500
01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:50,960
Speaker 7: position where they're sitting back like Amari and saying, Okay,

1501
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:54,200
Speaker 7: I got that second big contract and I am gonna

1502
01:06:54,200 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 7: be in the league and I am gonna make a

1503
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 7: difference and I'm gonna get the entirety of that contract.

1504
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 2: And that's really what they are gonna go for. And

1505
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 2: I think this is an opportunity in an offense like

1506
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:04,840
Speaker 2: this if you talk to the players, where they're gonna

1507
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 2: get to really show that because I think we're gonna

1508
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 2: be putting the ball in the air and they've got

1509
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,120
Speaker 2: a real opportunity to have those kind of career years.

1510
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 7: Think about it a bit. In the eighties, what we're

1511
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 7: talking right now was nonsense, unheard of. What do you

1512
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 7: mean you're not running the ball. You're in the AFC

1513
01:07:19,840 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 7: Central at the time. Now the North, you better run

1514
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 7: that football. No, the game has changed immensely. Yes, even

1515
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 7: in the winter, we will be throwing the football, even

1516
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 7: in January, December, November, we will be running spread offense.

1517
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 7: We will have eleven personnel on the football field. We

1518
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:41,200
Speaker 7: will be throwing at nauseum. You're gonna get tired of

1519
01:07:41,280 --> 01:07:43,160
Speaker 7: us throwing the football at some point, I'm pretty sure.

1520
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 7: And yes, you want to put some bounce in there

1521
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,760
Speaker 7: with the running game, Nate Dogg. But I'm convinced these

1522
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 7: guys you talk about opportunity will have no excuses. Targets

1523
01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:54,000
Speaker 7: are gonna be running them UK, So catch the football,

1524
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,040
Speaker 7: do what you do, and you should be good to go.

1525
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:01,960
Speaker 2: Let's go. I absolutely love that. I love that. Listen

1526
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,280
Speaker 2: to Gerrod Cherry, the three time, three time, three times

1527
01:08:04,320 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: Super Bowl champion, and let's hopefully get one of those

1528
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 2: here for the Cleveland Browns. All right, real quick, On

1529
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:12,040
Speaker 2: the tight ends, obviously, Chief is back, Jordan Aikins is

1530
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:14,640
Speaker 2: back as well, and I know people are like, well,

1531
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,040
Speaker 2: who's the third tight end going to be? I'd say

1532
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 2: a few years ago that mattered, we would play a

1533
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,559
Speaker 2: lot of that. You know, thirteen personnel. That's not gonna

1534
01:08:22,560 --> 01:08:24,479
Speaker 2: happen that much anymore. And I think as you look

1535
01:08:24,479 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 2: at this roster with the depth at some other positions,

1536
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 2: this could be a position where the Browns decided to

1537
01:08:28,760 --> 01:08:30,760
Speaker 2: go with two tight ends on the fifty three and

1538
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: one on the practice squad.

1539
01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 7: Right, yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if we saw that.

1540
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,719
Speaker 7: And the crazy thing abohind it is David is essentially

1541
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 7: receiving tight end, so you can actually spread him to

1542
01:08:39,880 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 7: the X door to the Z spot more n likely

1543
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 7: to just to put him on the line of scrimmage,

1544
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,679
Speaker 7: and he could hold his own in certain situations as well.

1545
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 7: So I can see a spot to where we do

1546
01:08:50,840 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 7: have just two tight ends and call it a day,

1547
01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:55,760
Speaker 7: because we might be in a lot of heck, four

1548
01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 7: receiver sets at times and I would not surprise me. Folks,

1549
01:08:59,280 --> 01:09:02,000
Speaker 7: get ready to it out again, Ken Dorsey did not

1550
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,320
Speaker 7: come here to just simply run the football. Now you

1551
01:09:04,320 --> 01:09:06,000
Speaker 7: need to run the football. We can't forget about the

1552
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,680
Speaker 7: running game. You have to have some similars of I

1553
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:12,280
Speaker 7: only use the word balance, but some similars that you

1554
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:15,559
Speaker 7: can run the football in tough situations and establish yourself

1555
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:19,960
Speaker 7: from a physicality element. But no, we are going to pass.

1556
01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,840
Speaker 7: And when passing comes one if we can identify another

1557
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 7: receiver tight end certainly will take them. But yeah, I

1558
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,240
Speaker 7: anticipated being on spot to where we may just have

1559
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,479
Speaker 7: one less tight end and more of a receiver taking

1560
01:09:32,520 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 7: his place.

1561
01:09:34,040 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 2: Absolutely. What I would say to that is, yeah, we're

1562
01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:38,120
Speaker 2: still gonna run the ball. Listen, Keny Sefanski knows how

1563
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 2: to run the ball and knows how to scheme up

1564
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 2: runs as well as anybody. Dorsey is very well versed

1565
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 2: in running it out of the shotgun. We're still gonna

1566
01:09:44,520 --> 01:09:47,040
Speaker 2: run it. But you're right, this is gonna be an offense.

1567
01:09:47,080 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 2: It's based around our biggest talent right now, and our

1568
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 2: biggest talent should be at the quarterback position with you know,

1569
01:09:53,960 --> 01:09:57,679
Speaker 2: Judy first rounder, I'm Aari first rounder, Elijah second rounder,

1570
01:09:57,760 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 2: Chief first rounder. With all that talent that we I've

1571
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 2: got in that eleven personnel grouping, and I think that's

1572
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,759
Speaker 2: going to be very very fun to see. All Right, Trod, dude,

1573
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 2: last one here, anything like, what's the one thing that

1574
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: you are hoping to see hear read about whatever in

1575
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 2: training camp this offseason for the Cleveland Browns.

1576
01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:23,720
Speaker 7: I'm hoping to hear that Jerry Judy is out there

1577
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 7: putting on a clinic Elijah Moore is handling his business.

1578
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:29,200
Speaker 7: Amari has not less the step, but he's gained one.

1579
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:31,760
Speaker 7: And David Jokho is doing what he does. And that

1580
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,840
Speaker 7: one of these young receivers, be at Tillman or Bell

1581
01:10:34,120 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 7: or whoever else is in the mix, is stepping up

1582
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 7: and they look phenomenal. That's what I want to hear.

1583
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 7: That's what I need to hear. And if I'm hearing that,

1584
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:44,880
Speaker 7: that bows very well for our passing game, because we

1585
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:49,200
Speaker 7: talked about it throughout the tirety of this segment. If

1586
01:10:49,200 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 7: you can pass the football, guess what that does? That

1587
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:52,240
Speaker 7: opens up the running game.

1588
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 2: Oh yes.

1589
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 7: And if you open up the running game, what do

1590
01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,839
Speaker 7: you have now? You have a defense does off balance?

1591
01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:58,640
Speaker 7: And when you have a defense is off balance, and

1592
01:10:58,680 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 7: if you're making big plays twenty yards or more, that

1593
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 7: means you're scoring the football. So I want to hear

1594
01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:07,080
Speaker 7: those reports coming out of camp, and when we go

1595
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:09,599
Speaker 7: against these other teams, I want to hear how one

1596
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 7: on ones we were cooking DB's and they could not

1597
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,040
Speaker 7: hold their own and in red zone we are giving

1598
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,960
Speaker 7: them major headaches and problems. That's what I want to hear.

1599
01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:18,640
Speaker 7: And on top of that, I want to hear no

1600
01:11:18,720 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 7: injury reports whatsoever.

1601
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:24,839
Speaker 2: Exact same same, speaking into existence charade. Always a pleasure

1602
01:11:24,880 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 2: talking to my man. Thanks so much for the time today.

1603
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Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll take a look at the

1611
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:50,800
Speaker 2: Browns specialists and keep things moving here. We'll do a

1612
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 2: little Mount rushmore guessing as well. Here Cleveland Brown's Daily,

1613
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:57,200
Speaker 2: First Friday, last day in Ohio before the team heads

1614
01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 2: to the Greenbrier in West Virginia to begin training camp.

1615
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,519
Speaker 2: Twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back into Cleveland Browns Daily. Nathan's a girl with

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Speaker 2: you here on this Wednesday. Big thanks to Nick Chuck

1620
01:12:32,080 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 2: and Gerrod Cherry for stopping by the show and giving

1621
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 2: us some great insights as well. We're going to continue

1622
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,080
Speaker 2: our position previews right now with a look at the

1623
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: specialists for your Cleveland Browns. And obviously, you know what,

1624
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 2: no news is good news in this case, and it

1625
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,960
Speaker 2: most certainly is good news for the Cleveland Browns because

1626
01:12:53,479 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 2: everybody is back. All the principal players are back in

1627
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:01,280
Speaker 2: your big three. I'm talking punter, kick, long snapper, and

1628
01:13:01,320 --> 01:13:03,760
Speaker 2: you've got a lot of continuity there. You've got a

1629
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 2: lot of productivity. Dustin Hopkins signed that long deal. All

1630
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:09,400
Speaker 2: he did last year was go thirty three of thirty six,

1631
01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 2: including eight of eight from fifty plus yards. He did

1632
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:17,120
Speaker 2: not miss inside of forty yards all season. He was

1633
01:13:17,160 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 2: good on his kickoffs, he was good on his extra

1634
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,240
Speaker 2: points as well. So he is back, and cave york

1635
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 2: is in the building as well. So still a lot

1636
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,840
Speaker 2: of talent from a guy you drafted in the fourth

1637
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:31,960
Speaker 2: round a year ago. The punter Corey Bujorcaz is back,

1638
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 2: and Corey Biljorkz last year averaged forty nine point four

1639
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:39,120
Speaker 2: yards per punt, forty two point two net thirty one

1640
01:13:39,200 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 2: punts inside the twenty yard line. Beelhorkz had a heck

1641
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,639
Speaker 2: of a season for the Cleveland Browns and he's here

1642
01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 2: for a while. Last year, the forty two point two

1643
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:52,759
Speaker 2: a franchise new the franchise record for the net yards

1644
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:55,240
Speaker 2: per punt, and in fact, he improved on the previous

1645
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: season when he was excellent when he was forty eight

1646
01:13:57,520 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 2: point five a punt, and this up to forty nine

1647
01:13:59,720 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 2: point four. He was forty point five net to forty

1648
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:04,600
Speaker 2: two point two, which is the second best net of

1649
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,479
Speaker 2: his entire career. So you've got those two, You've got

1650
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 2: Charlie Hewlett, who is absolutely a stalwart for you at

1651
01:14:11,720 --> 01:14:15,200
Speaker 2: the long snapper position. So that's the same same operation,

1652
01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:19,840
Speaker 2: same snapper, same holder, same kicker, same punter, all of it.

1653
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,920
Speaker 2: So that's great news. Now where things could get interesting

1654
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 2: that's in the return game. And that's where we could

1655
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: have some changes finally here in the return game. Because

1656
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: Nahem hins he is in and Nahem hinds two kick

1657
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,599
Speaker 2: return touchdowns two punt return touchdowns in his career, He's

1658
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: gonna get every opportunity. Bronni are one of the most

1659
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 2: dynamic returners in the game. Bubba Ventro knows him from

1660
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,840
Speaker 2: his time in Indy. Then you've got back as James

1661
01:14:46,840 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: Prochet who handled some punt return duties for you a

1662
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,439
Speaker 2: year ago. Pierre Strong is back, and I can tell

1663
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 2: you from camp, Pierre Strong looks like he is gonna

1664
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 2: be a force as a kick returner this year. And

1665
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,840
Speaker 2: I would be surprised to see Elijah Moore get some run.

1666
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,719
Speaker 2: Jerry Judy could get some run. They're gonna be very innovative.

1667
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 2: This kickoff's gonna look a lot different for the Cleveland Browns,

1668
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:07,599
Speaker 2: and they've got certainly some game wreckers there. So from

1669
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,639
Speaker 2: a specialist standpoint, this is one of those no news

1670
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 2: is good news, continuity all around, and then a potential

1671
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:17,000
Speaker 2: upgrade in the return game with Nahem Hines. You never

1672
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:19,160
Speaker 2: were able to get it with Jaquem Grant. It's stunk,

1673
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 2: got hurt, worked his way back, got hurt in the

1674
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,439
Speaker 2: preseason on his first kick return. Just devastating for him

1675
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,240
Speaker 2: and the Browns still trying to find that real difference maker,

1676
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:29,479
Speaker 2: and I think it could come in the form of

1677
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 2: Nahem Heinz or even Pierre Strong this year. So that's

1678
01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:36,679
Speaker 2: a look right there at your specialists for the Cleveland Browns.

1679
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,360
Speaker 2: Bjork haz Back, Hopkins, Back, Hewlett back, Cade York is

1680
01:15:41,479 --> 01:15:45,200
Speaker 2: back as well, So that's where you sit right there.

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Speaker 2: every team's Mount Rushmore, Every franchise is foremost important players

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Speaker 2: in history. We're gonna guess some of the teams, and

1690
01:16:17,240 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 2: then we're gonna see if I can guess the nine

1691
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Speaker 2: active players on the Mount Rushmore's nine guys that currently

1692
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:26,840
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Speaker 2: hundred and forty four one hundred and forty superstar athletes.

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Speaker 2: Joe Montana will be there. That's all you need to know.

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Speaker 2: A few over eight hundred and fifty exhibits for tickets

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Speaker 2: to visit nsccshow dot com. Today, all right, NFL Network

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Speaker 2: NFL Films released every NFL team's mount rushmore. Every franchise

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Speaker 2: is four most important players, and so I guess, am

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Speaker 2: I trying to guess these various teams, and then I'm

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Speaker 2: going to try to get the nine active players that

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Speaker 2: are still out there.

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Speaker 8: I have that you're guessing the nine active players. If

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01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:30,640
Speaker 8: you want to guess the teams, you absolutely can, But

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Speaker 8: it looks like they go through. I have a list

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Speaker 8: of all of the teams and in all the divisions.

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Speaker 8: So all teams are listed here on their article.

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Speaker 2: All right, well, i'll see, I'll see if I can.

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Speaker 2: We'll pick a couple of these teams. Then we'll try obviously,

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Speaker 2: well it's the Browns. We'll do the Browns first.

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Speaker 5: All right, sounds good?

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01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 2: Do you think, I think we may have done this before.

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Speaker 2: So I hope I do. I hope I do well.

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01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:59,960
Speaker 2: Auto Graham yep, Lou Rosa correct, Jim Brown yep. Joe

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01:18:00,080 --> 01:18:02,559
Speaker 2: Thomas yes, that is all four? All right, so I

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Speaker 2: got the Browns there. Let me try the Ravens all right,

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01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,400
Speaker 2: go ahead, Ray Lewis yes, Ed Reid yes. Jonathan Ogden yes.

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01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 2: Terrell Suggs not Terrell Suggs.

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Speaker 8: This is actually where one of our current players comes into.

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson, Yes, Lamar Jackson. The kurrent players on their

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01:18:28,640 --> 01:18:29,720
Speaker 8: own team.

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Speaker 2: My question for the nine active players are they do

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01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 2: they don't? Do they have to be on their team? Still?

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Speaker 5: I don't think so. No, it's they may.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, they don't have to be on those teams, because

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Speaker 8: there's a few guys on this list that have definitely

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01:18:44,880 --> 01:18:45,400
Speaker 8: changed teams.

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Speaker 2: Chieps. Okay, all right, all right, let me see then

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Speaker 2: we've got Bengals m hm. Anthony Munos, Yes, he has listed.

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Speaker 2: My guess is they'll put Ken Anderson on there, but

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01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:00,559
Speaker 2: they probably should put Joe Burrow in there, and they won't.

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Speaker 2: Ken Ocho Cinco yep.

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Speaker 5: That's three.

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Speaker 2: No idea on the last one can take a hint.

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01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 8: Well starts with the same name as Ken andersonbod It's

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Speaker 8: Ken Riley is the last one.

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Speaker 5: I would thank this one.

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01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 2: I would not have had that.

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01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 5: Can you get the Steelers stay in the AFC?

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01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 2: Nor that's gonna be a tough one. Mel Blunt not there,

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01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,600
Speaker 2: Rod Woodson not there? Interesting? Rod Woodson's got to be

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01:19:40,640 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: on here somewhere. But I wonder what oh interesting? Uh?

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 2: Lambert Jack Lambert yep? Okay? Me and Joe Green.

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Speaker 5: Yes, he's on there, Bradshaw yep. And the Browns Killer.

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01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:01,160
Speaker 2: Brow killer.

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Speaker 8: Roethlisberger yes, yeah, So two quarterbacks on the on the

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Speaker 8: list for the Steelers. What other teams you want to

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Speaker 8: go for? Do you want to go for the rest

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01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 8: of the nine current players.

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Speaker 2: That are let's do We'll do that. Let me do

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01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 2: the Niners? Okay, Jerry Rice yes, Joe Montana yep. It

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01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 2: gets tough. Steve Young yep.

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Speaker 5: That's three.

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Speaker 2: Ugh? Is it another quarterback?

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Speaker 5: It is not another quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Okay? T O not to o. Dione wouldn't be a Niner. Uh.

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01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,360
Speaker 2: Charles Haley Not Charles Haley.

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Speaker 8: I'm also like looking stuff up to get like hints

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01:20:56,640 --> 01:20:59,120
Speaker 8: without giving it to you. But still helping you out.

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Speaker 2: So are you? Do you have a hint for the

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Speaker 2: for the Niners fourth.

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Speaker 5: Just about give me one second here?

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Speaker 8: Do you have one other name that maybe you think

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Speaker 8: from your Niners fandom days and growing up that way?

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Speaker 2: Uh? Oh, Ronnie Lott?

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Speaker 5: Yep there, Okay, Ronnie.

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Speaker 2: A lot have been easy. That's bad.

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Speaker 8: I was wondering if you. I was like, I feel

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01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 8: like he should know this one. I don't really want

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01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:30,599
Speaker 8: to give him a hint, but yes, Ronnie Lott, Jerry Rice,

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01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:32,680
Speaker 8: Joe Montana, Steve Young, the four for.

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Speaker 2: The pretty good one. The one thing I remember this

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01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,519
Speaker 2: is that Randy Moss isn't on any teams right, which

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Speaker 2: is craziness.

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Speaker 5: I have not seen him, but I will.

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Speaker 2: Let me just be on the Vikings.

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01:21:45,680 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, he should be on the Vikings, but he is

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Speaker 5: he is not.

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Speaker 8: Chris Carter is on there, Frank Frank Tarkenton, Adrian Peterson,

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Speaker 8: Alan Page.

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Speaker 2: For the Vikings. Okay, all right, let me try to

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01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:58,479
Speaker 2: guess the nine. So we've already got We've got Lamar

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01:21:58,560 --> 01:22:02,680
Speaker 2: Jackson yes, uh, Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 9: Yes, for the Packers, Mahomes Mahomes yes, Kelsey yes, So

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Speaker 9: they do have two representatives do the Chiefs.

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01:22:18,160 --> 01:22:25,000
Speaker 2: So that's four. Yep. Bobby Wagner still playing. He's got

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Speaker 2: to be on Seattle's. He is on Seattle's, and I

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Speaker 2: bet Russ is probably on Seattle. Yes, all right, so

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Speaker 2: that's six.

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Speaker 8: So you got I think you got two in or

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Speaker 8: one in the NFC and two in the AFC.

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Speaker 5: Left to guess.

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Speaker 2: One in the NFC and two in the AFC. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Davante Adams.

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Speaker 8: Davante Adams is not on one of the Mount Rushmore's,

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Speaker 8: but there are there is a wide receiver out.

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Speaker 2: There, DeAndre Hopkins, yes, Houston, yep. Okay, all right, So

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Speaker 2: I need two more ye one AFC, one NFC correct, Okay,

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Speaker 2: can you give me a division in the NFC? Uh?

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Speaker 5: Yes, Actually let me.

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Speaker 8: So, because I'm I have like the text up that

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01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 8: I was sent from our friends back at back at

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Speaker 8: the Ranch. So just making sure I have the right

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01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 8: teams that these players are associated with, even if they've

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Speaker 8: played for other ones.

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Speaker 5: So NFC South for the NFC.

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Speaker 2: Player, he's on an NFC South Mount Rushmore team where

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Speaker 2: he's still he's actively playing in the NFC South.

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Speaker 8: He's on an NFC South Mount Rushmore. See if he's

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Speaker 8: still in the af NFC.

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Speaker 2: South or not.

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01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, he still is in the NFC South.

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01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't think it's anybody in Atlanta. No, I

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Speaker 2: don't think it's anybody on Carolina currently. Nope, Mike Evans,

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01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: not Mike Evans, Cam Jordan.

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01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 5: Cam Jordan for the New Orleans Saints.

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, good? And then I got one more

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01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,200
Speaker 2: in the a f C.

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Speaker 5: One more in the AFC. Also, defensive player, defensive player.

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Speaker 2: We know it's not t J. Watt. We know it's

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Speaker 2: not Miles Garrett, it's not Chris Jones. And he's on

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Speaker 2: an AFC Mount Rushmore team, but he's not.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's on an AFC West Mount Rushmore team.

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 2: Okay, and he's is he currently in the AFC West?

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01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:47,040
Speaker 5: He is not?

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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01:24:48,640 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 10: Okay?

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01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,680
Speaker 2: All right? Chiefs, we know it's not anybody on the

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01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: Chiefs Raiders. I bet it's all old timers maybe like

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01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,800
Speaker 2: Tim Brown might be like the most recent guy. So

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Speaker 2: probably nobody on the Raiders. Chargers. You said Khalil Mack

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be on there for the Chargers. No, Derwin James

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Speaker 2: would not. Derwin James is not an all time Charger yet. Yeah, alright,

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01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:35,080
Speaker 2: so Broncos still active. They're not playing Pencer tan On there.

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Speaker 8: Oh von Miller, Yes, von Miller played for the Broncos

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01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 8: now with the Buffalo Bills in the AFC East, but yes,

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01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 8: Buffalo Broncos represented with von Miller one of the current

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01:25:50,160 --> 01:25:50,759
Speaker 8: active players.

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Speaker 5: So that is all nine.

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Speaker 8: I'll run through them just one more time on the

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01:25:54,360 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 8: Mount Rushmoores for their team if they are current player.

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Speaker 8: Lamar Jackson for Baltimore, Hopkins when he for Houston, DeAndre Hopkins,

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Speaker 8: Von Miller Broncos, Mahomes and Kelsey Chiefs, Aaron Rodgers for

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Speaker 8: his Packer days, Cam Jordan with New Orleans, and Russell

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01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 8: Wilson and Bobby Wagner for the Seahawks. So the Chiefs

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01:26:12,920 --> 01:26:16,880
Speaker 8: and Seahawks both get two players, but only one team

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Speaker 8: has those players still playing for them.

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01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:22,519
Speaker 2: To say, neither of those guys are on the Seahawks anymore.

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01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 2: Because Wagner was there last year. I think he had

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty tackles and now he's with the Commanders.

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Speaker 5: Yep.

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01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: And Russ as we will all well know, is here

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Speaker 2: now with the Pittsburgh Steelers. All right, very good, thank you,

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Speaker 2: that was good that's absolutely, that's a tough one. That's interesting.

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01:26:38,840 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 2: Some of those are very Lamar Jackson is a big

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01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:42,640
Speaker 2: one over Terrell Sucks.

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Speaker 8: I think that I was actually I was actually surprised

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01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:46,840
Speaker 8: about that. I thought maybe he would need like a

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01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 8: year or two more before that. But I mean, he's.

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Speaker 2: Two MVPs is pretty Yeah. Legit Suggs is one time

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01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,679
Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year, seven time Pro Bowl, one

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01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:09,560
Speaker 2: time All Pro. So I mean, yeah, Lamar's Lamar's se pros.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, most important position in all of sports. I mean,

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01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 8: and got hit two MVPs and just continues to get

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01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:17,599
Speaker 8: better no matter how many times people question him. Still

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01:27:17,640 --> 01:27:20,000
Speaker 8: to this day, he just keeps getting better and tough

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01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,080
Speaker 8: to deal with with For our Browns here.

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01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:25,599
Speaker 2: In the well, hopefully we can slow him and Todd

1875
01:27:25,640 --> 01:27:29,360
Speaker 2: Monkin down this season. All right, when we come back,

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01:27:29,439 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 2: final thoughts, Wrapping it up, Brown's getting ready to head

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Speaker 2: to the Greenbrier.

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Speaker 1: Here we go, Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by

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Speaker 2: All Right, wrapping it up here on Cleveland Brown's Daily Today,

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01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:01,519
Speaker 2: I'll be joined by Jim Donovan on site. The Voice

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01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,120
Speaker 2: of the Browns on site at the Greenbrier for the

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Speaker 2: next couple of I guess probably starting tomorrow's show through

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01:28:07,439 --> 01:28:10,120
Speaker 2: next week's shows, so we will have that for you

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:13,759
Speaker 2: live updates from the Green Brier here only on Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily, So get excited for that. Just a reminder

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01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:19,719
Speaker 2: of the Browns had some news today as they place

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01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,919
Speaker 2: some players on either the NFI list or the physically

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01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:26,120
Speaker 2: unable to perform list. They placed running back Nahem Hines

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Speaker 2: with a knee, cornerback Greg Newsom with a hamstring on

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Speaker 2: the NFI list, and then on the active roster pupp list,

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01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 2: safety d Anthony Bell with the shin, running back Nick

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01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: Chubb coming back from his knee injury, tackle Jack Conklin

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Speaker 2: and tackle Jedrick Wills as they come back from their

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01:28:39,880 --> 01:28:43,800
Speaker 2: knee injuries, and Dalvin Tomlinson with a knee injury as well.

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Speaker 2: The Browns also signed a couple of players as we

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Speaker 2: were on the air today at one fifty two. Defensive

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01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,840
Speaker 2: end Jeremiah Martin, who was an originally an undrafted free

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01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 2: agent signed by the Browns last year, and tackle chim

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01:28:54,520 --> 01:28:57,080
Speaker 2: okafor who was officially in his first NFL season out

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01:28:57,120 --> 01:28:59,800
Speaker 2: of Benedictine, who spent time with the Eagles and the

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Speaker 2: Mannesota Vikings last season. Big thank you today, obviously to

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Speaker 2: both Jerrod Cherry and Nick Shook for giving us their

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Speaker 2: time and their insights. Folks. It's here. The twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four season for your Cleveland Browns starts tomorrow in West

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01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:20,400
Speaker 2: Virginia White Sulfur Springs at the Greenbrier. The team will

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01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:23,439
Speaker 2: have practice is there at the end of this week

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01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 2: and then all throughout next week before they return back.

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Speaker 2: And here's the crazy part. On this Wednesday, we are

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Speaker 2: seventeen days away from the Browns preseason opener on August

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Speaker 2: the tenth, just seventh, just over two weeks away from

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Speaker 2: the preseason opener on August the tenth at Cleveland brown Stadium.

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Speaker 2: It's wild how fast this is coming. You get the Packers,

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Speaker 2: then you get the Vikings the following week with those

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Speaker 2: joint practices, and then wrap up the preseason August to

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Speaker 2: twenty fourth, which is just one month from now. You

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Speaker 2: will wrap up the preseason August twenty fourth in Seattle

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Speaker 2: again the Seahawks. So that's where we are, folks, That's

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Speaker 2: where this thing is for the Cleveland Browns. It is

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Speaker 2: time to go. The roster is complete, the coaching staff

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Speaker 2: is in place. You are relatively healthy, you are without distractions.

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Speaker 2: You're without contract issues, as Amari Cooper's deal was done yesterday.

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Speaker 2: You're ready to roll. I'm ready. It's football time now, folks.

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Speaker 2: It is football time. The Browns are back. Football is back.

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Speaker 2: Let's go. I can't wait. The next level is next.

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