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Speaker 3: Here we are to Monday where the Cowboys came to
Speaker 3: Arizona and lost, and all of us had it wrong.
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Speaker 3: You know the crew. Danny McCrae, heckm Harrison, Barry Church,
Speaker 3: I'm New, he scrugs.
Speaker 2: Buddy, twenty eight sixteen. So that's ugly.
Speaker 4: Yes, we all had it going a different way. I
Speaker 4: had Dallas winning thirty two to sixteen. Church, you had
Speaker 4: Dallas winning twenty eight ten. Heck May you had Dallas
Speaker 4: winning thirty five thirteen. Danny, you had Dallas winning twenty
Speaker 4: seven to ten.
Speaker 3: We all like cheesez. We all came up wrong.
Speaker 2: I was real. We should have known.
Speaker 5: I just want to say that because you came on
Speaker 5: here and I was thinking about it. You came on
Speaker 5: here and said something you thought was positive, and we
Speaker 5: was all just were just so in the cheese.
Speaker 2: So much we didn't even look at it to say what.
Speaker 5: So you talked to Cede Lamb and Ceedee Lamb say, nah,
Speaker 5: we know the real test ain't til week five. And
Speaker 5: we came here and say you did say that? We said,
Speaker 5: we was like, yeah, you're right, jo Is said. He said, yeah.
Speaker 6: They focused had kool aid, like, yeah, you're right.
Speaker 2: A week five they know they know.
Speaker 3: Ye a mischaracterization.
Speaker 2: What'd you say? Okay, okay, I'm just so.
Speaker 4: He talked about, all right, we're two and old. Everybody's
Speaker 4: two and old, right, it's not really something to measure
Speaker 4: it by. By about week five, we should know what
Speaker 4: we basically week five, we should kind of know where
Speaker 4: we and where other teams are.
Speaker 3: We should kind of get a better sense.
Speaker 5: That's better than that's better.
Speaker 2: A little better.
Speaker 3: So so Twitter right decided to put it out there.
Speaker 2: We don't know that.
Speaker 4: I tried to take that little and just say, hey,
Speaker 4: you're not worried about you're not worried about these guys
Speaker 4: you were.
Speaker 2: So it wasn't in that case.
Speaker 5: But I'm sorry, CD, but uh, okay, week five, I
Speaker 5: hope we hope we know it was.
Speaker 2: It wasn't good. So I can't. I can't wait to
Speaker 2: hear your justifications.
Speaker 5: Soon was standing straight up in the kool aid. That's
Speaker 5: how much sugar. I can't wait to hear this.
Speaker 2: I got.
Speaker 5: Yeah, come on, my bad, my bad, you want this week?
Speaker 5: But yeah no, Texas my two schools man, they lost.
Speaker 3: Man, you know, come on rough weekend?
Speaker 2: Class have played around on.
Speaker 5: Hurry, somebody sparking off.
Speaker 2: I got to hear it.
Speaker 3: I got to hear it. Where go ahead now, I mean.
Speaker 2: We already talked off lound about this. I want to
Speaker 2: hear old on.
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: I shot the first text on this.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah no, because I want I want to be
Speaker 5: the first to say I got on here. Okay, two
Speaker 5: weeks in a row, I was like, Hey, as long
Speaker 5: as our defense is playing this way and Big Mike
Speaker 5: is gonna stick to the game playing and not let
Speaker 5: the noise get to them, Hey, kicking the field goal,
Speaker 5: kicking kicking at the end every drive is good?
Speaker 2: Then we okay.
Speaker 5: And then for some reason we get into the game
Speaker 5: and the noise or something something we're gonna get this
Speaker 5: one and we don't kick the field goal, and that
Speaker 5: let me know, everything I needed to know about where
Speaker 5: we were in that game, about the fourth and four
Speaker 5: and the four fourth and four week second half. Hey, man, listen,
Speaker 5: you either trust your defense or you don't. Okay, even
Speaker 5: if you feel that confident in what you can do
Speaker 5: in the red zone, your recipe for success over the
Speaker 5: last two weeks has been what continue to drive the
Speaker 5: ball down the field, get points, get out of there,
Speaker 5: let your defense play.
Speaker 2: Out the way, and then.
Speaker 5: You know, we get it. I'm like, well, here we go.
Speaker 5: The person's on. Person's on didn't feel good. Didn't feel good.
Speaker 5: But I did get to the end of the game
Speaker 5: and I said, man, I might understand why Big Mic
Speaker 5: running the ball in the red zone because based on
Speaker 5: how I finished, I guess we'll figured out it out.
Speaker 5: But now I'm not going when you was going to church,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna let you get that first. I'm not going
Speaker 5: on the lab where we was mixing count out lab
Speaker 5: was good. I mean, I sent a couple of text
Speaker 5: message and I was like, Big Mic is cooking. You
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. The red zone we just we
Speaker 5: stalled out. But I would rather just hey, man, if
Speaker 5: you're gonna start kick.
Speaker 2: The ball that's true.
Speaker 3: That's true.
Speaker 5: Go ahead, man don't okay, let me just read let
Speaker 5: me read the text aside.
Speaker 2: You don't have to do that, man.
Speaker 5: I mean, initially my initial response after this game, I
Speaker 5: was disappointed. I was disappointed because in the text he said, look,
Speaker 5: they sleepwalking, and that would have been the last thing
Speaker 5: that I would have expected from this team because they
Speaker 5: are unproving they would come out and and play the
Speaker 5: same way that they played over the first couple of weeks.
Speaker 5: But they came out and they just slip walk, especially
Speaker 5: through that first half. And to me, I think as
Speaker 5: we were going through the game, there were things that
Speaker 5: Mike was doing, like you were saying yourself, Okay, that's
Speaker 5: a great call.
Speaker 2: You're in your bag right now.
Speaker 5: You're keeping the ball moving, really keeping this defense, letting
Speaker 5: Dan Quinn make whatever adjustments that he needs to make
Speaker 5: right now. Because obviously the Cardinals saw something on tape
Speaker 5: that they exposed and it's the same old thing, run defense, run.
Speaker 2: Defense, over and over and over again.
Speaker 5: And we know as we go through the week, we're
Speaker 5: gonna talk about what this next team coming up is
Speaker 5: going to expose as well. But man, I couldn't have
Speaker 5: nothing could have prepared me for the lack of effort
Speaker 5: on the defensive side.
Speaker 2: It just couldn't.
Speaker 5: Nothing could have prepared me for that, and I was
Speaker 5: it was one of those things like I kept saying
Speaker 5: to myself, like, damn, we seriously underestimated these dudes. And
Speaker 5: y'all may not remember this man, but Mike Tyson was
Speaker 5: the baddest man in the world February tenth, nineteen ninety
Speaker 5: before he met Buster Douglas.
Speaker 2: The next day and the next day.
Speaker 5: Buster Douglas showed the world that he bleed like us,
Speaker 5: right and after that the Kurt was down. I think
Speaker 5: everybody know about this defense. That was every offensive tackle
Speaker 5: in the world was scared of Michael Parsons. They ain't
Speaker 5: this morning because they saw this is how you beat them.
Speaker 5: You put twelve personnel out there, you bring those tight
Speaker 5: ends out to his side, you wash him down, and
Speaker 5: you take those guards and those tackles and crown on
Speaker 5: them out on those safeties and James Connor, James Conner
Speaker 5: should have had two hundred yards if he had any speed,
Speaker 5: it had two hundred yards, you know. So look, it
Speaker 5: was it was disappointment on my side on what I
Speaker 5: felt for this team.
Speaker 2: I felt like they slept walked through it. Man.
Speaker 5: But hopefully they'll take this look at the tape and
Speaker 5: just take this as a learning experience, because man, they
Speaker 5: have to be better than this, especially over these next
Speaker 5: couple of stretches of games.
Speaker 6: Now, you guys are both right, I mean, they got
Speaker 6: to play better overall. I mean in all three phases. Well,
Speaker 6: I don't know Special Teams they bought out. I ain't
Speaker 6: gonna lie. You know, that return from turfing could have
Speaker 6: been huge.
Speaker 5: Twenty nine was out there making a whole bunch of
Speaker 5: time too. I don't always want to shot like split
Speaker 5: the spotlight on CJ. He was out there doing doing
Speaker 5: what he was supposed to do. But yeah, so Special
Speaker 5: Team did do things. But there was three things to
Speaker 5: me that kind of kind of stood out in this game. One,
Speaker 5: they went back in time and got into the penalty
Speaker 5: box again. Thirteen penalties for one hundred and seven yards.
Speaker 5: We haven't seen those type of numbers since twenty twenty one.
Speaker 5: You know, we thought that was behind us.
Speaker 6: So the penalties definitely hurt this team overall to kept
Speaker 6: them behind the change and kept in those third and
Speaker 6: long situations. Then you looked at it, y'all both already
Speaker 6: hit on it. You talk about this defense, it was
Speaker 6: disappointing at the fact that not only did they get
Speaker 6: in twelve personnel and kind of just jam it down
Speaker 6: this defense through the gut, but they.
Speaker 2: Were also able to hit the edges as well.
Speaker 6: You know, usually it's one of the other, either you're
Speaker 6: gonna be able to cut this team or you're gonna
Speaker 6: be able to hit the outside.
Speaker 2: But Arizona was able to do both of those things.
Speaker 6: And then they got into that eleven personnel and you
Speaker 6: know when dan Quinn loves to run that three safety,
Speaker 6: that three safety you know, got the down safety and
Speaker 6: the two guys up top.
Speaker 2: They saw that.
Speaker 3: And they exploited it with the run game.
Speaker 6: They put more in the backfield, saw that speed and
Speaker 6: he was hamstring busting guys all the way down the sideline.
Speaker 6: So they got him in that eleven personnel and they
Speaker 6: ran it down the throat of those safeties and you
Speaker 6: saw the holes were open. They were like five yards
Speaker 6: wide out there. So to me, that was another thing
Speaker 6: that stood out. And then you talk about the offensive
Speaker 6: side of the football, there was a couple of mistakes,
Speaker 6: you know, game plan wise, and just scheme wise out
Speaker 6: there that that we saw. There was a couple of
Speaker 6: players where Mike McCarthy, he was doing his thing. He
Speaker 6: was in his back getting CD lamb the ball early
Speaker 6: and often you saw all gallop out there. He showed up.
Speaker 6: I mean, was he was balling as well. But when
Speaker 6: you get down to the red zone, man, you gotta
Speaker 6: punch it in. You gotta find a way to punch
Speaker 6: it in. And we talked about this two weeks ago
Speaker 6: when it was in what was at New York or
Speaker 6: was it, Yeah, where they were in the red zone.
Speaker 6: I think they went two for six and we all
Speaker 6: kind of brushed it off, like guy, you know, they
Speaker 6: finished with a kick. But when you go against teams
Speaker 6: that are gonna test you a little bit, and nobody
Speaker 6: up here, including myself thout Arizona was gonna test Dallas,
Speaker 6: you gotta be able to finish those drives off, especially
Speaker 6: when you're inside the ten yard line. We gotta find
Speaker 6: a way to punch the ball into the end zone.
Speaker 6: But to me, this was the first game where Mike
Speaker 6: was kind of tested as an offensive play caller, because
Speaker 6: if you look at.
Speaker 3: It, the first two weeks, he didn't he didn't have
Speaker 3: to really do much.
Speaker 6: You know, in New York they were up nineteen nothing
Speaker 6: before the national anthem was done. The following week, you
Speaker 6: up thirteen nothing. So he was kind he just had
Speaker 6: to play with play to his defense. This was the
Speaker 6: first game where offensively this team needed to put it
Speaker 6: on their shoulders, and they weren't able to get the
Speaker 6: job done.
Speaker 5: Last night, I heard you on the post game show
Speaker 5: talk about that run deal more play, specifically about the
Speaker 5: three safety look, and it was that scheme that's I'm
Speaker 5: studying you. We got the personnel that we whoa. Y'all
Speaker 5: came out with the look that we were looking for
Speaker 5: all week, and it was like their eyes got that
Speaker 5: big when they saw Jaymon Curse sitting back there and
Speaker 5: they gave that.
Speaker 2: That two way go.
Speaker 5: Just as a safety, how do you attack a situation
Speaker 5: like that when they got you walled off basically, and
Speaker 5: it's you one on one with the guy you and
Speaker 5: if you don't make that tackle, it's a rout. But
Speaker 5: then not only do you not make the tackle, he
Speaker 5: burned you hamstring busters. And you notice just as well
Speaker 5: as I do, when you were in that middle of
Speaker 5: the field, you see those seeds part like that, and you.
Speaker 2: See it's one with that running back.
Speaker 6: That's one of the hardest things in football because he
Speaker 6: has a two way go and you can he's running
Speaker 6: straight at you some either your flat foot or you're
Speaker 6: trying to just go and shoot your shot. I was always, man,
Speaker 6: look I'm gonna shot my shot. If I miss, I miss.
Speaker 6: But that's that's a tough situation, man.
Speaker 5: I think one thing I just wanted to add to
Speaker 5: one of the disappointing but then something that I'm I'm
Speaker 5: feeling good out with the defenses.
Speaker 2: If you watch our defensive line.
Speaker 5: All right, we always talk about you got to earn
Speaker 5: the right to pass rush, all right, it didn't look
Speaker 5: like they like they just wanted to get out there
Speaker 5: and pass rush. I think what we got caught doing
Speaker 5: a few times as well, is we're taking on these
Speaker 5: pulling linemen from the opposite side of traps and pulling
Speaker 5: leads right encounters, and we're getting caught in those spikes,
Speaker 5: right Micah going underneath, the three technique going underneath, and
Speaker 5: then they're getting washed. So when they come around, it's
Speaker 5: a tight edge and the safeties and the linebackers who
Speaker 5: need to get over the top, they're not getting over there.
Speaker 5: I saw my Marque's bell get stuck inside on one
Speaker 5: of those and Vanderist didn't get over the top. And
Speaker 5: it happened a couple of times, But a lot of
Speaker 5: times when you see it, it's we're lined up the
Speaker 5: lineman or going when we called spike, they're lined up
Speaker 5: in the outside gap and on the snap of the ball,
Speaker 5: they're going inside. And when you get pulling guards and
Speaker 5: pulling tackles in those type of situations, if you're not
Speaker 5: knocking those guys off trackration, you in for a loan.
Speaker 5: And that's when the safeties are looking at guys running
Speaker 5: up on them like that with nobody touching them. And
Speaker 5: we got caught in that for almost every single one
Speaker 5: of those big runs twenty six yard run, forty yards.
Speaker 5: We got caught in that position every time. But the
Speaker 5: thing about it is that's something that's correctable to me.
Speaker 5: Like so when you go back and you watch the
Speaker 5: film and you say, hey, what happened to us on display?
Speaker 5: All right, Hey, man, if you're gonna you're gonna spike,
Speaker 5: you gotta knock those pulling guards off that track, because
Speaker 5: if they could just come around and get up on
Speaker 5: those safeties and those linebackers, then we don't have a shot. Okay,
Speaker 5: So maybe you run less of that, or maybe you
Speaker 5: run in a different situation. But I think we got
Speaker 5: called in some stuff that you can coach yourself out
Speaker 5: of or call a different play to get you out of.
Speaker 5: So I'm not feeling as bad, but we just got
Speaker 5: caught in it so many times. And I don't want
Speaker 5: to get back on this Monzie Smith thing. Okay, but
Speaker 5: we drafted the first round for a specific reason and
Speaker 5: we had thought kind of that we had changed it.
Speaker 5: But we do know New York got away from the run.
Speaker 5: I mean not New York. Yeah, actually Jet. The Jets
Speaker 5: got away from the run, and then we were up
Speaker 5: so much on the on the Giants that they couldn't run.
Speaker 5: And now we're like, oh here we go. Here it is,
Speaker 5: and you know, we didn't show up. So that's unfortunate.
Speaker 5: But like I still got faith, I still got fake
Speaker 5: that Reizon office does have to get fag out.
Speaker 3: So from the defensive standpoint, stay right there.
Speaker 4: The first half, five possessions, five scores, field goal, touchdown, touchdown,
Speaker 4: field goal, field just right there.
Speaker 2: He gave up ten points up to that.
Speaker 4: Then the second half to that, Arizona had the ball
Speaker 4: four times punt punt touchdown into game, so the defense
Speaker 4: did not get.
Speaker 3: It done at all.
Speaker 4: And then on the other side, we talked about the
Speaker 4: Cowboys offensive line and we all got we all got
Speaker 4: the text said, Okay, you know Zach Martin, Tyler Biattish
Speaker 4: and Tyler Smith is a time decision and he ended
Speaker 4: up dressing but did not play.
Speaker 3: That did have an that was a part of the problem.
Speaker 4: Just suppose when you talk about you got ten penalties
Speaker 4: in the first half a loan of the thirteen, they
Speaker 4: clearly were not congruent in terms of what you need
Speaker 4: to be on an offensive line front.
Speaker 5: I'm telling you this, I ain't never been so mad
Speaker 5: with how many times they cut to my man dressed
Speaker 5: out in full pads on the sideline.
Speaker 2: Why, thank you? Thanks.
Speaker 5: I'm just I'm watching the game and I'm like, what, bro,
Speaker 5: what why they keep showing this spin?
Speaker 2: Why is he in full pads? What? Why captain? What's
Speaker 2: the captain that way he was? Why is he in
Speaker 2: full pads?
Speaker 5: Like, don't even now, were just putting the spotlight on
Speaker 5: we know this week, but you know why I'm on it.
Speaker 2: You know why I'm on this on this topic all right?
Speaker 2: And it just don't like I was just mad every
Speaker 2: time I saw it.
Speaker 4: Every time you were you mad that you saw or
Speaker 4: were you mad because you saw Tuma struggle?
Speaker 5: Now listen, listen. As much as the offensive line struggle,
Speaker 5: I still think we still we still had a shot shot.
Speaker 5: I think we still had a shot. Yes, I would
Speaker 5: have I would have I would have hoped. I'm more
Speaker 5: mad because I'm like, we already knew this was gonna happen.
Speaker 5: But I am I mad that I saw him struggling?
Speaker 5: Or am I mad that we continue to put ourselves
Speaker 5: in a situation where you know there's a guy or
Speaker 5: grouping whatever it is you you the guy behind them
Speaker 5: needs to be a possible starter because they're gonna get
Speaker 5: a lot of time.
Speaker 4: What I didn't get is when and this happened to
Speaker 4: the pre game Christy Scales talked about it on the
Speaker 4: pregame show Adoga Left Tackle.
Speaker 3: I was surprised Tom Smith was coming back.
Speaker 4: That was my bigger surprise is if I'm going to
Speaker 4: move somebody left tackle, even though it's Tyler Smith's first game,
Speaker 4: I'd rather have him out there than than seems more
Speaker 4: like a guard than me.
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 5: I wasn't. I wasn't surprised at that. I mean, I
Speaker 5: was more surprised at how he struggled, especially how good
Speaker 5: he looked at guard for just playing for the first
Speaker 5: time at guard. I figured they've been practicing all week
Speaker 5: with Tyler Smith at left guard and probably Tyring at
Speaker 5: so you show up on game day, we just can't
Speaker 5: switch it right here on the spot, especially with a
Speaker 5: guy like Idoga who has the most experienced by playing
Speaker 5: by playing tackle. But it's just look, the thing for
Speaker 5: me is they're not going to give the Cowboys any
Speaker 5: excuses about the offensive line period. That's not gonna happen,
Speaker 5: all right. But the play calling. You've been talking about
Speaker 5: guys like Brandon Cooks, all right, Brandon Cooks being the
Speaker 5: difference maker for the wide receiver room, bringing these guys together,
Speaker 5: and it seemed like.
Speaker 2: To me the wide receiver room took a step back,
Speaker 2: all right. And I don't know if it's if it's look.
Speaker 5: I know, if you play football, you play on the helmet,
Speaker 5: you used to contact and you're not scared of nothing.
Speaker 5: So I don't never say football player scared. But when
Speaker 5: I looked at Brandon Cooks, it was a it was
Speaker 5: a third down.
Speaker 2: He catches a curl route.
Speaker 5: He's he could turn around, He's got yack opportunity and
Speaker 5: he backs up for five yard that usually they are.
Speaker 2: Come on first thing, you know, like what you're doing? Bro?
Speaker 5: When I said it turn around from him, he was
Speaker 5: probably this, dude, I'm saying this. Why I'm not gonna
Speaker 5: fight be Cooks on that because he played the game
Speaker 5: long enough and probably got got hit after catching that
Speaker 5: ball so many times when he's like, all right, I
Speaker 5: just I just.
Speaker 2: Need he mad for that's the only reason that that's on.
Speaker 5: You don't get nobody no excuses. No, he was that
Speaker 5: was zone that linebackers coming out. He knew that all
Speaker 5: I gotta do is throttle down on this curl. The
Speaker 5: guys behind me all got this. Come on, Mike Tomlin here, Okay,
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna make your excuse for getting the first down.
Speaker 5: The route, he ran the round, he caught the ball,
Speaker 5: he got the first down. I ain't gonna can he
Speaker 5: gets some yack. Yeah, I will talk about Hey man,
Speaker 5: we gotta throw the ball a little deeper, my man.
Speaker 5: Every every deep passes like stop, wait, come back, almost
Speaker 5: back showed like, hey.
Speaker 2: Man, throw it out there. You got some fast dudes
Speaker 2: out there. Put it out there. Let him run underneath
Speaker 2: and catch it. We can get that done.
Speaker 4: Did he have enough time with the way the offensive
Speaker 4: line was leaking a little bit to do that. Let's
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Speaker 11: For y'all West, Babyya West, I had baby twenty eight,
Speaker 11: Minnesota Church thirty one, twenty four Chargers.
Speaker 4: Heckma, you had it twenty four Chargers with the MAC
Speaker 4: you were mean Minnesota thirty one twenty eight.
Speaker 3: The word out, Brandon State.
Speaker 2: But put the word out, the word out that is fact,
Speaker 2: and you got and you God almost blew it too.
Speaker 2: I'm worried. I'm worried. I gonna man, you're the only
Speaker 2: person called the player who struggled.
Speaker 6: I'm worried, man, because three weeks in a row, if
Speaker 6: one and you do a full back counter and come.
Speaker 5: On, is Stanley trying to get look like it and
Speaker 5: it's like, I mean, this is an attempt to you
Speaker 5: were talking about.
Speaker 2: Killing making terrible. Man, I worry. I'm worried, man.
Speaker 5: Because this man he got four downs to get the
Speaker 5: first down, but close the game out full back, drop.
Speaker 2: Full back. It's frightening. That's why I said I can't really,
Speaker 2: I can't really get get that job start. You already
Speaker 2: learn from knock that that's new words. How I did,
Speaker 2: how I did it back.
Speaker 3: I'm worried, though, man, Yeah, you.
Speaker 4: Should be should be worried, should be worried. So okay,
Speaker 4: so that well, we'll pick Monday nights games. Got two
Speaker 4: games and I will do that. Here, I'll give you floor,
Speaker 4: give you the floor. You want to talk about number four?
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, Son yesterday, I'm I'm not gonna I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna killing too bad. I'm not gonna killing too bad
Speaker 6: because yes, was that interception got off in the back
Speaker 6: of the ends, and of.
Speaker 2: Course it was.
Speaker 6: I mean it was quadruple coverage back there, and he
Speaker 6: said he tried to fit it between the man's ears
Speaker 6: behind it.
Speaker 2: I don't know that was that was. That was a
Speaker 2: tough decision.
Speaker 6: I never played quarterback, so I can't sit here and
Speaker 6: get it all.
Speaker 2: You ain't none of the positions set. But he's too crazy, man.
Speaker 6: But what hurt him is what hurt him is they
Speaker 6: got outside of themselves. When's the last time we saw
Speaker 6: here besides the eighty three snap game last week? Because
Speaker 6: it was eighty three sets, so everybody's up, ticket's gonna
Speaker 6: go up. But forty pass attempts. I mean we getting
Speaker 6: back into my man Keller, that type of situation where
Speaker 6: you know the formula, you know the formula to win games.
Speaker 6: You got an historically great defense on that side of
Speaker 6: the football.
Speaker 2: Were they leaky a little bit yesterday? Without a doubt, but.
Speaker 6: You still gotta have some type of faith in them, because,
Speaker 6: like you always say, proof time and consistency. Dan Quinn
Speaker 6: has showed you that he can come through for you
Speaker 6: in the clutch. But to go out there and just
Speaker 6: throw the ball forty times. To me, that's that's getting
Speaker 6: into that area where it's not yourself and you're putting
Speaker 6: it more on Dak to lead to put it on
Speaker 6: his shoulders instead of the defense. So I feel like
Speaker 6: they did a little bit of an injustice.
Speaker 2: For him right there.
Speaker 6: But overall, it comes down to this man that he's
Speaker 6: got to make better decisions when throwing the ball in
Speaker 6: those type of situations.
Speaker 2: And we talked about this.
Speaker 6: All last year. You can't compound the mistake. You see
Speaker 6: where you want to go with the football, but if
Speaker 6: it's crowded and money like that, use your legs.
Speaker 2: We've seen it happening in that game. He was able
Speaker 2: to screen, he was able to get those first times in.
Speaker 6: Those yours, get out of the pocket, throw the football away,
Speaker 6: or check it down. You can't compound the issue by
Speaker 6: throwing into triple on quadruple coverage because that was a
Speaker 6: big point in the game.
Speaker 2: That was it right there.
Speaker 6: So, like I said, I'm not all killing too much
Speaker 6: because I feel like it's a combination of play Colin
Speaker 6: and in the officer system that they put in there
Speaker 6: for that game. But he's just got to make better
Speaker 6: decisions with the football and uh yeah, and that's it.
Speaker 2: I don't want to kill the man. I don't want
Speaker 2: to kill It.
Speaker 12: Ain't about telling the truth. It is all right, come on, man,
Speaker 12: and I'm not listening. I'm not on here to killing
Speaker 12: me that. I'm just saying this. Okay.
Speaker 5: Over the first two weeks, especially heck, okay, especially you,
Speaker 5: when I was like, man, he almost threw it and
Speaker 5: that don't count. He ain't throw it. Okay, got away
Speaker 5: with another one before he threw that.
Speaker 2: Okay. Not on play calling, I'm with you. That ain't
Speaker 2: gonna play color bro.
Speaker 5: That's a simple read that a linebacker is playing the
Speaker 5: middle zone right there.
Speaker 2: He almost threw it right to him. Okay.
Speaker 5: Then we come back in the red zone. Okay, triple coverage,
Speaker 5: triple that's okay, behind who's ear. So I'm just so,
Speaker 5: so what happens is you get you continue to get
Speaker 5: away with that stuff because they dropping interceptions because saut
Speaker 5: Gardener should have had one.
Speaker 2: All right, you're coming here and you get away with it.
Speaker 5: So you continue to do that type of stuff where
Speaker 5: I'm like, okay, if he's dynamic now using his legs,
Speaker 5: then he has an opportunity to extend plays, so I
Speaker 5: don't feel like he's as comfortable as I want him
Speaker 5: to be. He is using his legs a little more,
Speaker 5: but he has to be better with reading these coverages,
Speaker 5: looking guys off, or just taking what the defense gives you.
Speaker 5: He does it for the most part. Now he's been
Speaker 5: doing that throwing to the tight end. But eventually, okay,
Speaker 5: week four or five, six, they gonna sit on these
Speaker 5: short routes they have been and they're waiting for you
Speaker 5: to do that. So in my mind, I'm like, that's
Speaker 5: why I said, Mike MacCarthy's gonna keep opening up the
Speaker 5: playbook and we're gonna see some double moves, a little
Speaker 5: bit extra stuff. But my biggest issue with DAK over
Speaker 5: the last few weeks is we said Brandon Cooks is
Speaker 5: gonna be your deep, deep dirt guy. Okay, you have
Speaker 5: Michael Gallup who looked fast, looked like he can catch
Speaker 5: the deep ball, and then you also have CD Lamb.
Speaker 5: For some reason, we are one of the only teams
Speaker 5: as I'm watching NFL renz on on Sundays, who have
Speaker 5: not been able to throw one of those long deep
Speaker 5: passes with the receiver runs up underneath it and catches it.
Speaker 5: It's always one of those ones where you got to
Speaker 5: stop and come back. It looks like a back shoulder,
Speaker 5: the passing offer, the potential passing ofference catch that we
Speaker 5: saw Michael Gallup I felt was win and it should
Speaker 5: have been just thrown over his shoulder. So I think
Speaker 5: the connection with the receivers and Dak being able to
Speaker 5: throw the ball a little bit further so they can
Speaker 5: run up underneath it and have a true big play.
Speaker 5: I think that's where I want to see the improvement
Speaker 5: with Dak. Eighteen precious two sacks. He was under the rest,
Speaker 5: didn't have three of his offensive linemen. Look you, I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna get this man any other excuses when it
Speaker 5: comes down to where your ball needs to be placed.
Speaker 5: That one that you're talking about to Mike g Man,
Speaker 5: you put that one on the rope. You put that
Speaker 5: in the corner and give him an opportunity to make
Speaker 5: that play. But ceedee lamb on that fade route. You
Speaker 5: got to compete for that ball.
Speaker 2: You can't throw. You gotta compete for that ball.
Speaker 5: You can't throw your hands up thinking that you're gonna
Speaker 5: get the Pi bass the ball.
Speaker 2: Look, Brandon Cooks Brandon Cooks.
Speaker 5: I don't know when he became this intermediary route running guy,
Speaker 5: but that's kind of the way they pegged him in
Speaker 5: the slot position down in the red zone. You got
Speaker 5: to help your quarterback out there. Dog, you can't run
Speaker 5: to the content. He's running to the contact, all right,
Speaker 5: Ceedee Lamb, You've got to do better at your I
Speaker 5: mean just getting off the ball for Ceedee Lamb. Especially
Speaker 5: in this game. They looked like they had him blanketed.
Speaker 5: But the one play for me, like I was like,
Speaker 5: come on, Dak, I can't defend this is the fourth
Speaker 5: and fourth and goal. Jalen Hurts. This hurts my heart
Speaker 5: to say, Oh, Jalen Hurts. Are the top five quarterbacks
Speaker 5: in the league. You you gotta make a play right there.
Speaker 2: Doc. You can't throw that ball into triple couse, you
Speaker 2: can't throw the ball.
Speaker 5: You know, you gotta make a play if y'all gonna
Speaker 5: trust that, you're not gonna kick a field.
Speaker 2: Goal right there.
Speaker 5: And we got we gotta get points. And it's you
Speaker 5: and one man. It's you and one man. Come on, now,
Speaker 5: you gotta be a playmaker, and you gotta make that
Speaker 5: play because I know a dude in your division that
Speaker 5: would have made that play, that big tackle makes it consistently.
Speaker 5: You know, my man calls him a running quarterback. You know,
Speaker 5: I don't like him, you know here, hey, well I
Speaker 5: don't like him at all now.
Speaker 10: But.
Speaker 5: Then and then to be positive here, all these things
Speaker 5: to me can be fixed. I'm don't know about the
Speaker 5: interception thing. I'm not like he's like, I know, I'm
Speaker 5: gonna throw less than ten. He lucky they dropped them. Okay,
Speaker 5: he be halfway halfway to ten right now, and that
Speaker 5: and that's and I'm not and you got that tape
Speaker 5: that they are dropping them thrown right into their hands
Speaker 5: and he be half way to ten. So I don't
Speaker 5: know about the interception thing. I think he does have
Speaker 5: an opportunity with his ball placement to make sure that
Speaker 5: he's throwing the ball deep enough for guys to actually
Speaker 5: make big plays on not ones where they got to
Speaker 5: compete because they're beating them off the line of scrimage.
Speaker 5: I just want to see him complete those and then listen,
Speaker 5: defenses moving forward are going to be sitting on these
Speaker 5: on these shorter NBDIA routes, so you're gonna have to
Speaker 5: find find a way to stop them from sitting at
Speaker 5: the sticks. Yeah see he tried to run that fourth
Speaker 5: down league to the to the full back.
Speaker 2: Buty and.
Speaker 5: You the only dude that was talking about lifty and
Speaker 5: just like that passed. They get the first down conversion
Speaker 5: two liftkey. I'm like, dog, don't go away from that.
Speaker 5: Keep running that, you know, come back to that. This
Speaker 5: play is like that that. I feel like when you
Speaker 5: especially when you get down into the red zone, you
Speaker 5: cannot lack creativity. And that's where the plays to me,
Speaker 5: it just lacked creativity in the red zone. They gotta
Speaker 5: do better. Man, that's not a right. Rico's balling, so
Speaker 5: oh yeah, good youth, grace. He making some plays. Keeping
Speaker 5: some folks on the bench too. Yeah, I know, break
Speaker 5: but he is doing.
Speaker 2: Somebody on the defensive side ain't balling. They moved them
Speaker 2: on the outside. Let's see.
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Speaker 4: The other Monday night game Rams at Cincinnati, we got
Speaker 4: the Natty favored by three.
Speaker 2: Give me happening to Borrow? La? He's still stop? Is he?
Speaker 2: L A?
Speaker 3: Twenty four to twenty one? What you got?
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna go to La on this one.
Speaker 6: Twenty seven fourteen, he's still playing.
Speaker 5: You know, I think I'm gonna stay with I'm gonna
Speaker 5: go through Rams too. I don't think Borrow gonna play, So.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Twenty fourteen, twenty fourteen, it's gonna be a long night
Speaker 5: for Natty's.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got I got the Rams nineteen thirteen. What
Speaker 2: the heck? I'm rooting for Joe.
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's gonna play. And I also
Speaker 5: don't know if you're healthy. Actually, I know you're not healthy,
Speaker 5: So I'm not listen. I'm trying to get I'm trying
Speaker 5: to be the one with the best record in I'm not.
Speaker 5: That's not why I'm figuring the game. It's my head,
Speaker 5: noting my hot. My head not my hot. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's you gonna win I never thought I see the
Speaker 5: day the law the lost.
Speaker 2: Proved.
Speaker 3: So so.
Speaker 6: You want to get into a defensive Yeah, man, we
Speaker 6: gotta get into this man, because I'm tabic word.
Speaker 2: I mean, only one game, is only one sample size,
Speaker 2: only one game.
Speaker 6: But when you look at the all twenty two, when
Speaker 6: you look at the skybird of this game right here,
Speaker 6: twenty six dround playing, he didn't look good. He didn't
Speaker 6: look good at all at the line of scrimmage, playing
Speaker 6: off coverage.
Speaker 2: Because we know what dan Quinn loves to do. He
Speaker 2: loves to play man and man.
Speaker 6: They play man and men more than any team international football.
Speaker 6: Like I think it's like sixty five percenter, some craziness
Speaker 6: like that. But the outside, Daddy, you notice, is different
Speaker 6: from the inside. Things on the inside happened quick. You
Speaker 6: can get you, you can have that first initial movement
Speaker 6: and get your ass on the quarterback because things happen
Speaker 6: really fast in the slot. On the outside, it takes
Speaker 6: a little bit longer to develop. You won't have longer
Speaker 6: routes out there, double moves, things of that situation. Man,
Speaker 6: when you looked at it, the guy looked lost out there.
Speaker 6: He looked lost. He was turned around multiple times out there,
Speaker 6: they was targeting them. Hollywood Brown, who I would not
Speaker 6: even consider a top would y'all say, twenty receiver in
Speaker 6: the league, wouldn't even.
Speaker 2: Consider it was out there toasting boys. And he wouldn't
Speaker 2: the only one.
Speaker 6: I want to say, he wasn't only one, because Gilmore,
Speaker 6: twenty nineteen Gilmore doesn't look like twenty twenty three Gilmore.
Speaker 6: It does look like he lost a step. And I
Speaker 6: don't think I'm crazy by saying that. He looks like
Speaker 6: he lost a little bit of step. Still got the technique,
Speaker 6: can still be one of the top, you know, fifteen
Speaker 6: to fifteen corners in the league, but he does look
Speaker 6: like he lost a step and he struggles with speed.
Speaker 6: But overall playing going forward, is that the move to
Speaker 6: leave him outside? I mean, I don't know what other
Speaker 6: options they got right now. Maybe if Nashan right, when
Speaker 6: he gets healthy, coming back down, he can be better
Speaker 6: on that outside a little bit longer length and all
Speaker 6: that good stuff. But yeah, dron Blade, he struggled big
Speaker 6: time out there on us. The move is I talked
Speaker 6: about this last week traveling corners. Okay, you got Stephan
Speaker 6: Gilmore out there if you do have because remember when
Speaker 6: dron Bland came in last year, he was on he
Speaker 6: was at the left corner. Yeah, so this is first
Speaker 6: his first real action at the right corner. So one
Speaker 6: little learning adjustment, which is the thing. But then also
Speaker 6: you do have Stephan Gilmore out there, all right. So
Speaker 6: I think dan Quinn is smart enough to say, listen,
Speaker 6: if we got a guy who was getting targeted, which
Speaker 6: he's going to get targeted the season.
Speaker 2: Then you got to put your best guy on their
Speaker 2: best guy.
Speaker 5: If you're running man a man, still sixty percent of
Speaker 5: the time that you're that you're playing defense, all right.
Speaker 5: So I think that's the next step into intend to
Speaker 5: what dan Quinna, do you.
Speaker 3: Want a thirty two, thirty three year old guy traveling
Speaker 3: that court?
Speaker 5: Yeah, we let me tell you something. Protect your players, okay,
Speaker 5: because dron Blain is gonna get targeted all the time.
Speaker 5: They're actually gonna start lining their best receiver on the
Speaker 5: right side only until we do something to make make
Speaker 5: to make them stop doing it.
Speaker 2: And what will you do you think nation shun.
Speaker 5: Right is I think I think nationhun right is the
Speaker 5: key in the zone. I think I think that's where
Speaker 5: that's where he would best be suited. I think the
Speaker 5: plan the man right now with Deron Bland, and if
Speaker 5: that was the game plan coming in, they gonna they
Speaker 5: have enough time in consistency and whatever else to show
Speaker 5: them that now we can't put him out on the
Speaker 5: island like that. Look, man, I get a lot of
Speaker 5: game from y'all and I use it on my broadcast.
Speaker 5: I'll be setting y'all up, and y'all give me all
Speaker 5: my answers that I need. But I'm just telling you
Speaker 5: once you said, because being a former linebacker, I don't
Speaker 5: have the same keys as cornerbacks and safety. So I
Speaker 5: see the game completely different from y'all, and it's the
Speaker 5: see a little, see a lot, see a lot, see
Speaker 5: a little. He's seeing a lot right now, and I
Speaker 5: think that that is showing teams that, look, maybe double
Speaker 5: moves running something underneath. And especially for Gilmore, because of
Speaker 5: his speed deficiencies at his age, what do you do
Speaker 5: you run, Hollywood Brown on the crosser? Make him run?
Speaker 5: And so teams are gonna start doing things like that
Speaker 5: to our defense. But all of those things, like you
Speaker 5: alluded to in the first segment are fixable things you
Speaker 5: know you can't maybe we can't play Man as much
Speaker 5: as we did, and maybe Trayvon Digs was more of
Speaker 5: a luxury of being able to play that play Man
Speaker 5: covers the way I mean, and that's okay. You find
Speaker 5: that out over a simple size and you say, look
Speaker 5: now we can fix it this way. But I just
Speaker 5: look for Darn Bland to stay in Man and Jay
Speaker 5: Lou who didn't have a bad game. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 5: like guys like that, I just don't believe you're well
Speaker 5: suited leaving him on the eyelde I'm listening, is one
Speaker 5: this on this part I'm saying, is one game.
Speaker 2: That's That's what I believe. It's one game.
Speaker 5: It's only week three time proofing with consistency. What deron
Speaker 5: Bland says that he can be that he can play Boss.
Speaker 2: So I'm not sure.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to raise everything that happened last year
Speaker 5: where we were like, yeah, Man twenty six could play
Speaker 5: inside outside to happen this game against Arizona where a
Speaker 5: lot of people came out and didn't play they how
Speaker 5: they needed to play. To say him specifically is a
Speaker 5: guy who was like, nah, I'm not sure. I'm not comfortable.
Speaker 5: He still got opportunities he got the Patriots coming, which
Speaker 5: he should get his confidence up against them before he
Speaker 5: gets into you know, some of that some of the
Speaker 5: top top nights competition. But I still have faith in
Speaker 5: the guy. I don't forget he had led the lead,
Speaker 5: led the team and turnovers. Yeah, yeah, he had an
Speaker 5: off game. They picked on him a little bit, but
Speaker 5: like he was giving out giving up ninety yard bombs
Speaker 5: for the entire game.
Speaker 2: He gave him some passes Trayvon Diggs ain't there. Just
Speaker 2: looked different plays just it just looked different.
Speaker 5: But but d Long, that's one of the ones where
Speaker 5: you say, listen, he came out and this has been
Speaker 5: the entire season and last season as well to where
Speaker 5: let's let's just take away the skill and technique and
Speaker 5: all that stuff as far as how hard he continue
Speaker 5: used to play and try to set the tone, he's amazing.
Speaker 5: When you look at our run stoppers, I think we
Speaker 5: got one legit guy who is a force in the
Speaker 5: run game, and I think that's ninety and we need
Speaker 5: to find more guys to be stopping guys in the run.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 5: I don't know what we're doing with number fifty five
Speaker 5: at the edge, but that's that's an experiment that also
Speaker 5: may need to be looked into if we're doing time
Speaker 5: proof and consistency.
Speaker 2: I don't know, that's not that's not working.
Speaker 5: You know, that's not And I don't know what Sam
Speaker 5: Williams has done or not done to not to be
Speaker 5: the guy that they go to out at the edge.
Speaker 2: But I mean we're getting gashed.
Speaker 5: And to see Phoenix Arizona get the edges the way
Speaker 5: that they did like that was that was the more
Speaker 5: troubling thing to me. Like, man, they are getting the
Speaker 5: edge way too easy. Which way they be running that thing?
Speaker 5: To left side?
Speaker 2: Huh?
Speaker 5: Well they like running on that left side. Man, your
Speaker 5: power left? Oh counter left?
Speaker 2: Come on, come on over.
Speaker 5: Into the left side. And they just gonna continue doing that.
Speaker 5: This is my this is my question for you as well.
Speaker 5: So Michael Parsons, Great, okay, what happens do you leave
Speaker 5: him at a position to where if we're behind and
Speaker 5: the team is able to run the ball, do you
Speaker 5: leave him at the position of right defensive end? Is
Speaker 5: that where he stays because you can move around all
Speaker 5: you want to, but in the passing in a passing game,
Speaker 5: But then when you put him on a guy like
Speaker 5: Trent Williams all right, or whoever whoever it is in
Speaker 5: that lane, Johnson and you say, Okay, we're behind, they're
Speaker 5: going to run the ball. We need somebody to get
Speaker 5: up here and be able to set the edge and
Speaker 5: stop them. Is that a consistent thirty thirty snaps that
Speaker 5: you want to continue to leave it them at? Because
Speaker 5: it's a question, what's the alternative? No position?
Speaker 2: Flex? Position?
Speaker 5: Flex with Michael Parsons is what makes him so dynamic,
Speaker 5: and dan Quinn has to find a way in situations
Speaker 5: like that to move him into the linebacker position and
Speaker 5: rush him up the middle. And I think that's why
Speaker 5: last week I was asking you about three four and
Speaker 5: him possibly being not just being the three four edge,
Speaker 5: but sitting outside of the edge so he didn't have
Speaker 5: to worry about the blockers so much. I saw him
Speaker 5: with his hand down and set up inside and I'm like, dude,
Speaker 5: that ain't how you win with this.
Speaker 2: Dude.
Speaker 5: You have to have him out in space, even a
Speaker 5: wide nine a position like that, to allow him to
Speaker 5: be one on one.
Speaker 2: And use his speed.
Speaker 5: Getting him caught up inside the washing between the and
Speaker 5: B gap is not gonna be his game. So to me,
Speaker 5: I think dan Quinn is gonna have to look at
Speaker 5: him and say, look, in situations like that, he's better
Speaker 5: suited moving him back to linebacker and you and that
Speaker 5: position flex being being something that.
Speaker 2: You could use. You know what he gonna have to
Speaker 2: do though, to be able to do that.
Speaker 5: Read them guards pulling and them tackles pulling, because, like
Speaker 5: I said that, that's what we got ate up at
Speaker 5: this game. They coming across there and I'm like, oh, nah,
Speaker 5: we're not.
Speaker 7: Gonna cross over.
Speaker 2: You're not gonna cross over. So the position flecks.
Speaker 5: Yes, he can do it, but he is he ready
Speaker 5: to do it considering that he's been playing defensive line for.
Speaker 2: OS.
Speaker 4: Well, this's your overreaction Monday. We'll get back at it tomorrow.
Speaker 4: Here's something to ponder for tomorrow show. No answers need
Speaker 4: it now, but ponder it. Will We see more Mozzi
Speaker 4: Smith this week when New England comes to town. Danny mccrane,
Speaker 4: heck Maherison Bury Church, I'm Newing Scruggs.
Speaker 3: We will dive into that next time right here on
Speaker 3: the players Lounge.
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