Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we already got our Christmas
Speaker 1: tree up. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling
Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend Patrick Clayback my other friend
Speaker 1: Nick Schuk, joining live from Cleveland where past Thanksgiving football
Speaker 1: is officially started and Patrick's looking around for the Christmas
Speaker 1: tree here. I know, I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: My house for the first time ever.
Speaker 1: I got it up like the day after Thanksgiving, and
Speaker 1: I'm feeling proud. You You cook Thanksgiving dinner. You're a
Speaker 1: real man before even coming into work.
Speaker 3: Pat Well, I mean, the objective, you know, is to
Speaker 3: get it done, and we were able to get Thanksgiving done,
Speaker 3: get into work, do some football, and also Greg, go
Speaker 3: get a tree, although we didn't do it the next
Speaker 3: day because yeah, but we did get out there on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Trees up. It'll be dead before Christmas, but hey, we're here.
Speaker 1: Also went yeah, official a real tree for the first
Speaker 1: time too.
Speaker 2: We've got fake forever.
Speaker 1: So we did. We did the whole thing, U Shookie.
Speaker 1: We're waiting for him to get on the line here.
Speaker 1: I have a suspicion he was watching the end of
Speaker 1: the Calves Celtics game. But I'm not gonna hold that
Speaker 1: against you, Nick for the rest of this show. We
Speaker 1: got we got games to go to.
Speaker 4: Actually, I checked the score and I was like, oh,
Speaker 4: Cavlin chappin.
Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you just wanted to stick it to me.
Speaker 1: You got one win today. Let's see if Patrick's team
Speaker 1: got their win. In one of the most important games
Speaker 1: of the year, two of the best teams in the
Speaker 1: NFL head to Baltimore.
Speaker 5: Purston Town Eagles. Paul Look the twenty five with the
Speaker 5: revuls clock ticking Perch, but Barkley was left parts this
Speaker 5: time to Barkley off the right side.
Speaker 6: Prince the tackle.
Speaker 2: He's at the first five touchdown, say.
Speaker 1: Barklay, he is special Mike Quick. That's also Merril Reese
Speaker 1: on the call WIP. The Eagles win the game twenty
Speaker 1: four to nineteen in Baltimore, helped by a drive that
Speaker 1: was all Saquon Barkley. A couple runs for Saquon Barkley
Speaker 1: passed the Saquon Barkley a jail it hurts run where
Speaker 1: the faked giving the ball to Saquon Barkley, and then yes,
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley finishes it off. The Eagles have won eight
Speaker 1: straight games they are ten and two.
Speaker 2: The Ravens are eight and five.
Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley in the fourth quarter of games this year,
Speaker 1: seven point four yards per carry. That's pretty good, leads
Speaker 1: the NFL and yards in the fourth quarter. Not a
Speaker 1: surprise there, Patrick, when they got that ball back after
Speaker 1: yet another Justin Tucker missed, it did feel like Saquon time.
Speaker 1: It's been the most reliable really aspect to any offense
Speaker 1: in the NFL last couple months.
Speaker 3: And the Baltimore Ravens had been able to hold them
Speaker 3: to a couple three and outs in the second half
Speaker 3: before that drive started. The Philadelphia Eagles had three three
Speaker 3: yards in the second half. Wow against the Baltimore Ravens.
Speaker 3: They actually get a third down they Brandon Stevens can't
Speaker 3: quite get Dallas Goddard on a crosser, and from then
Speaker 3: it was essentially over. The Eagles kept getting yards and chunks,
Speaker 3: and the Eagles doing this with Johan dark Dotson out
Speaker 3: in the pattern where Devontae Smith would generally be. The
Speaker 3: Eagles able to use their talent to get past the
Speaker 3: Baltimore on the road in this game without one of
Speaker 3: their top five players in Devonte Smith. Quinya Mitchell leaves
Speaker 3: this game, it's just a sign. As much as I
Speaker 3: would love to make this about the Ravens and Justin
Speaker 3: Tucker missing kicks, Philadelphia is a very very good team
Speaker 3: that is very very high.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to the Ravens side and Tucker nick,
Speaker 1: but I don't need to see anymore. This Eagles defense
Speaker 1: is playing the best in the entire league. Their defense,
Speaker 1: I mean, every week it's something, and today they just
Speaker 1: made everything hard. It felt like the only played Baltimore
Speaker 1: could make was Lamar just kind of improvising and some magic.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they did a good job of containing the run.
Speaker 4: They did a good job of keeping Lamar contained in
Speaker 4: the pocket for the most part. I mean, thirty nine
Speaker 4: of his seventy nine rushing yards came in that garbage
Speaker 4: time run late in the fourth quarter that didn't really matter.
Speaker 4: I mean, it was an excellent job. But really, what
Speaker 4: it has been is the Eagles defense doing a great
Speaker 4: job Vic Fangio doing a great job of adjusting in game.
Speaker 4: They've done this over the last three weeks. They did
Speaker 4: against Washington where they stack up points offensively because they
Speaker 4: keep getting stops defensively. Same thing happens today. They go
Speaker 4: down nine to nothing, and just like that, they're back
Speaker 4: up fourteen to nine because the Eagles defense was getting
Speaker 4: the stops and affording the offense more opportunities. And in
Speaker 4: the second half that was I mean, it was a
Speaker 4: near perfect performance kuper Degen making that tackle on Derek
Speaker 4: Henry in the open field and third down. That's the
Speaker 4: clip you're going to see on the internet, but that
Speaker 4: personifies this Eagles defense. Since Week six, they've allowed what
Speaker 4: twenty nine point the offensive side stirt We'll go back
Speaker 4: to the defensive side later, but they've allowed fifteen point
Speaker 4: three points per game since Week six. That's the second
Speaker 4: fewest in the NFL accord in the NFL research they
Speaker 4: and before that they allowed twenty four points a game.
Speaker 4: So if you want some hard number to demonstrate the
Speaker 4: difference between then and now and the start of this
Speaker 4: winning streak, it's right there. And they're playing the most
Speaker 4: complimentary football of any team outside of maybe Detroit, and
Speaker 4: they have a strong case that they're playing even better
Speaker 4: than them. So this was a win that they need
Speaker 4: to get tested road environment. Baltimore is a good team.
Speaker 4: Now they've officially proven themselves. I'm taking them very seriously.
Speaker 1: Right, and we're doing the thing where you talk all
Speaker 1: good about the winning team and kind of all bad
Speaker 1: about the losing team. But I watched this game, and
Speaker 1: these two teams seem very even to me for most
Speaker 1: of the game.
Speaker 2: Three to three and a half quarters.
Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's three miss kicks proved massive, but that doesn't
Speaker 1: change the fact that everything was hard for the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Two of those field goals were from long distance, one
Speaker 1: because they got a sack to push Lamar Jackson back.
Speaker 1: The Ravens started fast in the first quarter, but after
Speaker 1: that they you know, they had three straight three and outs,
Speaker 1: and like I said, just everything was hard. Even one
Speaker 1: of those missfield goal drives was a fourteen play forty
Speaker 1: seven yard drive. And that's what the Eagles defense can do.
Speaker 1: They played zone on eighty eight percent of their STAPs today.
Speaker 1: That's the highest number that they've done all season. It's
Speaker 1: because you don't want to play man against Baltimore and
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in his running game, and they did it
Speaker 1: good enough job making Baltimore really earn it. Their offense
Speaker 1: was a little disjointed. It almost felt like they're waiting
Speaker 1: for the fourth quarter to get there in Saquan to
Speaker 1: do something, and then it happened like it's a formula
Speaker 1: that's worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, just provide Saquon with the opportunities. Eventually he's gonna
Speaker 3: get there. But Baltimore, there were two drives in the
Speaker 3: first half. It was nine to nothing. Lamar had Isaiah
Speaker 3: likely wide open running a corner route. Isaiah likely kind
Speaker 3: of chops his feet, changes the angle Lamar throws. It
Speaker 3: was a bad throw regardless, but he misses him there.
Speaker 3: And then after a great punt by the Eagles, the
Speaker 3: Ravens are pinned deep. Lamar has safe Flowers on a
Speaker 3: ball to the sideline any short arms. Those two possessions
Speaker 3: wound up being huge for the Ravens there because you know,
Speaker 3: the game script played out the way that it did,
Speaker 3: and the opportunities really dwindled as the game went on,
Speaker 3: where they realized that wide talent wise, even with Red
Speaker 3: Blanket Ship leaving the game, the Ravens don't have the
Speaker 3: talent necessary on the outside, and then they lose. They
Speaker 3: lose a wide receiver in terms of so Zay Flowers
Speaker 3: had seventy three yards. It's Rashan Bateman goes down with
Speaker 3: a knee injury. We don't even see their trade deadline
Speaker 3: acquisition for the remainder of the game he got on.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they don't trust him they wanted
Speaker 3: going on, but he's not even involved and there's just
Speaker 3: not enough talent out there.
Speaker 1: I think we can add up the different Deontay Johnson
Speaker 1: teams that have gotten frustrated with him in Pittsburgh and Carolina,
Speaker 1: and then just look at what's happened when he's been
Speaker 1: on the field so far for Baltimore, where he's been
Speaker 1: a part of some ugly plays, and surmise they just
Speaker 1: don't trust him right now because they're playing Tyland Wallace
Speaker 1: ahead of him. Nelson Aguilar got targeted on two deep passes,
Speaker 1: one of which was a dime and he couldn't pull
Speaker 1: it in. I don't know if I want to call
Speaker 1: it a drop. Maybe I'll call it a drop defense.
Speaker 1: They needed to play perfect football and they didn't. You
Speaker 1: mentioned that the Gene play where they probably were going
Speaker 1: to get Henry down, but the fact that he piled
Speaker 1: drove him that was special. Come on, give.
Speaker 3: Him it started down. There's another defender in the back.
Speaker 1: It's just the fact that you pick up Derek Henry,
Speaker 1: you got to celebrate the wins.
Speaker 2: Patrick in life, Your.
Speaker 3: Jean's a very good He got Jamar Chase in the
Speaker 3: open field. He doesn't. We don't need to celebrate. Like
Speaker 3: when Lebron tries to take a charge and somebody dunks
Speaker 3: and it's like, oh.
Speaker 6: My god, they dunked on Lebron.
Speaker 3: It's just like, Okay, Derek Henry got got it was.
Speaker 3: It was a nice play by Cooper Dejan wasn't even
Speaker 3: the best play he made in this game.
Speaker 1: So Saquon's MVP candidacy moves forward, and it's not about
Speaker 1: just oh, this team won this game and Lamar lost it.
Speaker 1: I I do think Lamar has not been as otherworldly
Speaker 1: the last three or four games.
Speaker 2: He's been good, hasn't been as great.
Speaker 1: And Saquon is just the engine of the hottest team
Speaker 1: in the league, the best team in the league. And
Speaker 1: so we still got a ways to go in this thing.
Speaker 1: But they're ten and two, and another big spot where
Speaker 1: Saquan in this offensive line, it's all together. To me,
Speaker 1: if you gave a running back an MVP award, it's
Speaker 1: presentative of the offensive line and the whole team. And
Speaker 1: I think that would be absolutely fair. Nick, I thought
Speaker 1: Sirianni might lose them this game. I really regret not
Speaker 1: taking the Eagles in it because they have been a
Speaker 1: better team. I mean, I think it's just obvious on balance,
Speaker 1: and I picked the Ravens to win. And I was
Speaker 1: wrong thinking the coaching would make a decision. But the difference,
Speaker 1: but the coaching has been fantastic for the Eagles this season,
Speaker 1: especially on defense. And Justin Tucker's miss let's have the
Speaker 1: conversation quickly. His misses prevented the audience from really enjoying
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of this game. We kind of got
Speaker 1: robbed because Tucker's miskicks could be the difference right now
Speaker 1: with Baltimore in big games.
Speaker 2: Now they're at five losses.
Speaker 1: We'll see how the Steelers did, but you know they're
Speaker 1: not doing as well in the AFC North here. Do
Speaker 1: you think about benching Justin Tucker? There's no way they're
Speaker 1: going to cut people, But do you think about bringing
Speaker 1: another kicker?
Speaker 4: So I definitely think about working out another kicker, because
Speaker 4: we've talked about this the entire season. Now, I've written
Speaker 4: two separate posts about a month apart about Justin Tucker
Speaker 4: needing to work on his fundamentals and his technique and
Speaker 4: it's just something that he can clear up. And he's
Speaker 4: obviously not cleaning up. And the worst part, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: I know Jay Feely, I'm not a kicking expert here,
Speaker 4: but he's hooking kicks left, he's missing him to the right,
Speaker 4: like there's no consistency in any even the kicks he makes,
Speaker 4: they're like, oh, it squeezes in there. And this was
Speaker 4: a Ravens team that played well enough to win. Otherwise,
Speaker 4: they cleaned up a lot of their issues. They cleaned
Speaker 4: up the penalties. They only had four penalties accepted to
Speaker 4: him against him as opposed to usually landing the double
Speaker 4: digits in previous weeks. You know, they out gained Philly
Speaker 4: by one hundred and twenty yards, they won time in possession,
Speaker 4: but they didn't get the points that they were in
Speaker 4: position to get because their kicker is not there. And
Speaker 4: if this team ends up making a deep run into
Speaker 4: the AFC playoffs and it comes down to a kick,
Speaker 4: are you gonna regret not trying out another kicker beforehand?
Speaker 4: And if Tucker misses that kick and you lose that
Speaker 4: game in a heartbreaker.
Speaker 1: Yeah, One hundred and twenty yards feels misleading to me.
Speaker 1: You mentioned kind of the garbage time seventy yard drive,
Speaker 1: but that does point out to me it looked like
Speaker 1: a pretty even game.
Speaker 4: It was.
Speaker 2: I do think.
Speaker 1: That that the Barkley Hurts combination it's not quite as
Speaker 1: difficult in terms of the RPOs to deal with as
Speaker 1: Henry and Lamar. And Henry did have eighty two yards
Speaker 1: in this game, but you know they were trailing there
Speaker 1: at the end. But it's it's pretty darn hard because
Speaker 1: when Hurtz decides to run up the middle, that's where
Speaker 1: he is at his best as a runner.
Speaker 2: They had some really important.
Speaker 1: Conflicts that they put the Ravens defense in throughout the day.
Speaker 2: I thought the Ravens defense played well.
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens defensive improvement is there, but I
Speaker 1: mean there, forget about the one seed for the Ravens.
Speaker 2: They have a lot of work to do to win.
Speaker 1: The AFC North Eagles, on the other hand, still got
Speaker 1: a shot at that one seed and they're closing in
Speaker 1: on an NFC East title. Let's go to the Ravens
Speaker 1: rival in the AFC North Pittsburgh Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Is this the final? They better win?
Speaker 1: This week, or it's really really really over a game
Speaker 1: for the Bengals.
Speaker 7: Yo Savashian motion to the left, Pearl gets a snap.
Speaker 7: Here comes to this pressure the strips act is picked
Speaker 7: that by Wilson.
Speaker 6: Big Wilson's gonna go in for the score.
Speaker 7: Peyton Wilson touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers on the strips.
Speaker 8: Oh Nick Herbing, what a great job of jumping around
Speaker 8: the cord and getting the botz and being able to
Speaker 8: strip that ball, and you got the peg trade.
Speaker 9: Peyton Wilson scooping that thing up, scoop and score, and
Speaker 9: right now we're seeing an exodus of Bengals fans.
Speaker 1: Leaves Nate Erbrick, big time play ron King Craig wolf
Speaker 1: Ley w dv E. On a day where the Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: Steelers went over five hundred yards of offense, it was
Speaker 1: a couple defensive plays that felt like it might have
Speaker 1: been the difference in a game that's going back and
Speaker 1: forth and back and forth. Joe Burrow awesome day, but
Speaker 1: was a part of three turnovers and that score there
Speaker 1: seemed to put it away. The Bengals made another comeback.
Speaker 2: In this game.
Speaker 1: It ends up forty four to thirty eight. But Pittsburgh
Speaker 1: gets out of Cincinnati with a win. They're at nine
Speaker 1: to three, up a couple games in the lost column
Speaker 1: on those Ravens, and the Bengals officially buried here at
Speaker 1: four and eight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can stop. We talked about it before the
Speaker 3: show on Game Deview that it's been must win every
Speaker 3: single week and the Cincinnati Bengals seemed to come up
Speaker 3: short every single week, often in heartbreaking fashion. After that
Speaker 3: Chris Boswell extra point after the Wilson returned touchdown, it's
Speaker 3: a seventeen point game. The Bengals come back. The final
Speaker 3: score forty four thirty eight. They had a late touchdown
Speaker 3: from Andre Josavas after Jamar Chase got loose deep. But
Speaker 3: this was a game that started with a Cam Taylor
Speaker 3: brit picked six and that was essentially it in terms
Speaker 3: of bad plays for Russell Wilson. And I'll even give
Speaker 3: him that one because Cam Taylor brit got very physical
Speaker 3: with George Pickens at the line of scrimmage, grabbed the
Speaker 3: back of his helmet, ultimately beat him to the inside
Speaker 3: on the saint on the slant because of that, and
Speaker 3: took that interception all the way back to the house.
Speaker 3: But Russell Wilson was simply unfazed in this game. Four
Speaker 3: hundred and fourteen yards. The best stow I've seen him
Speaker 3: make this year, kind of changing his arm angle and
Speaker 3: hitting Pat Fryer move up the middle of the field,
Speaker 3: which Russell Wilson can do everybody now, not just on
Speaker 3: that play at Calvin Austin for a touchdown in the
Speaker 3: middle of the field as well, but ducked under the
Speaker 3: rush changes arm angle, Russ Cooking today, Greck.
Speaker 2: I love to hear it.
Speaker 1: I'd like to look in the Pittsburgh box score sometimes
Speaker 1: just at the long reception for different receivers because they're
Speaker 1: a big play offense. Seven different receivers had or eight
Speaker 1: different receivers had a reception of over twenty yards.
Speaker 2: You never see that.
Speaker 1: George Pickens, Friarmuth, Jalen Warren, Naje Harris, Van Jefferson, Quarterill Patterson,
Speaker 1: Calvin Austin and even Ben Scarronick got in there.
Speaker 3: When Van Jefferson's going off, then that's when you know.
Speaker 1: Okay, even what Skeronck is getting the plus twenty, I
Speaker 1: mean even Michael Brewitt had a plus eighteen. So this
Speaker 1: is an old school deep down the field type of
Speaker 1: offense at Russell Wilson was born to run.
Speaker 2: Let's listen to the friarmth touchdown.
Speaker 7: Russell Wilson steps to the line of scrimmage, communicates to
Speaker 7: his teeth as Harris who is writing the shotgun. Thirty
Speaker 7: seconds remaining third quarters, Wilson gets a snap, looking now
Speaker 7: under duress, we'll fling to us right, fine, friar moth
Speaker 7: inside to five and a touchdown for Pat fryar Moof all.
Speaker 6: Who's better to get loof than the friar moon.
Speaker 1: Oh love that call there by Craig Wollefully, when you're
Speaker 1: hearing the move in Cincinnati, you know the division is
Speaker 1: over right, or at least the Bengals season is over.
Speaker 2: That's a rough one for the Bengals defense. Nick, Yeah, I.
Speaker 4: Gave a silent fist pump, just because, look, we're at
Speaker 4: this point in the season now where these Bengals are
Speaker 4: who they are, and as much as I love Joe
Speaker 4: Burrow and think he's played out standing for the majority
Speaker 4: of the season, they're never going to overcome that defense.
Speaker 4: And it's time to move on from saying well, if
Speaker 4: they mount a run late, you never know, because today
Speaker 4: was the type of environment which they had to prove
Speaker 4: themselves against the Steelers offense that just continues to ascend.
Speaker 4: And by the way, a Steelers offense that if they
Speaker 4: needed a day to prove themselves, they're gonna do it
Speaker 4: against the Bengals defense, which can't stop in those bleeds
Speaker 4: for most of this season. So yeah, we'll put them
Speaker 4: to bed. Happy to see that. But I'll tell you
Speaker 4: what I knew. I had to come to Jesus moment last,
Speaker 4: not this past Thursday, but the Thursday before. Yeah, and
Speaker 4: Huntington Bank Field in downtown Cleveland, where I realized that
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson was going to be effective like this for
Speaker 4: as long as he's in the Steelers uniform. And it
Speaker 4: was when he threw that touchdown pass over the middle
Speaker 4: of Calvin Austin as like snow just falling hard on everybody.
Speaker 4: He just throws it with ease. He made the same
Speaker 4: throw today in great conditions. He's good like he's good
Speaker 4: in this offense. They're doing everything that they should to
Speaker 4: surround him with the right scheme and the right players.
Speaker 4: They're a balanced attack, and they're liable to do something
Speaker 4: like this in a given week. So I'm telling you, man,
Speaker 4: watch out for them. They're a very good another good
Speaker 4: complimentary football team.
Speaker 1: Fourteen miss tackles for this Bengals defense giving up ninety
Speaker 1: one yards. They just are hemorrhaging on that side of
Speaker 1: the football. Let's listen to Jamar Chase after the game
Speaker 1: answer them questions about that defense.
Speaker 10: Did you feel like, y'all offensively, y'll have to score
Speaker 10: every drive because you kind of how the game was
Speaker 10: going for early. You feel y'all pressing.
Speaker 4: They kind of get as many points as possible given
Speaker 4: how the back and forth.
Speaker 3: Forward was kind of expectations.
Speaker 10: Now, how tough is that to play on a game
Speaker 10: in a game out basis knowingly you as an offense
Speaker 10: don't really have much of a marketpreneur.
Speaker 3: Got a find way, mar you surprised your defense has
Speaker 3: struggled away a pass.
Speaker 5: I don't know.
Speaker 3: They need they need to find a way. We got
Speaker 3: to find a way. That's tough. Yeah, he held it
Speaker 3: through almost until the end. He almost got out of
Speaker 3: there without being overly critical. And then at the at
Speaker 3: the end that that's what they expect, which makes sense.
Speaker 3: That's how it's been.
Speaker 2: They know it.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it means when a
Speaker 1: locker room is divided in such a way that like
Speaker 1: the offense is maybe blaming the defense for what's happening. Like,
Speaker 1: how does that even manifest or affect them negatively? I
Speaker 1: don't really know, because the defense can't play any worse
Speaker 1: than they've played, and they all know it. The defense
Speaker 1: all knows it. Lou Ana Roumo shows up for work,
Speaker 1: they all know that that's what's cost him what could
Speaker 1: be a magical season from Joe Burrow. He has some
Speaker 1: of the best numbers in terms of like over thirty
Speaker 1: touchdowns and five interceptions or less of any quarterback in
Speaker 1: the last like handful of years, and they're freaking four
Speaker 1: and eight. It's absolutely outrageous. Now his turnovers contributed. The
Speaker 1: offensive line did not play well in this game.
Speaker 2: TJ.
Speaker 1: Watt had a monster game two sacks, five quarterback hits,
Speaker 1: a tackle for loss, eleven quarterback hits total, and four sacks.
Speaker 1: So the Steelers defense made a bunch of big plays.
Speaker 1: The crazy thing, Patrick, can you watch this game closer
Speaker 1: to me? Is that, Okay, George Pickens is like always
Speaker 1: a main character. He was taunting, He's making plays down
Speaker 1: the field, he was part of that pick six actually
Speaker 1: as the tender receiver. But I saw pretty early in
Speaker 1: this game, like for a while that Russ's averaged up
Speaker 1: the target was only two point eight yards, so were
Speaker 1: they kind of hitting them with body shots early and
Speaker 1: then went over the top late. Because it's crazy to
Speaker 1: me that the Steelers offense can be this good. I
Speaker 1: know it's again the Bengals, but I still think that's
Speaker 1: impressive that they can be this good against a bad defense.
Speaker 3: Well, the initial George Pickens touchdown after they came back
Speaker 3: to answer the pick six was on a swing out
Speaker 3: where George Pickens made a guy miss or around the
Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. It wasn't necessarily dinking and dunking earlier.
Speaker 3: It was just a balanced offense. And Najee Harris left
Speaker 3: the game of leeve with a hamstring. He would ultimately
Speaker 3: come back. But there was a good Corderole drive where
Speaker 3: Cordel Patterson was operating pretty well in the ring game
Speaker 3: as well. But you know, Russ finding pat Fryer move,
Speaker 3: he targeted him seven times, he called six of those.
Speaker 3: It was just a balanced offensive attack against a defense. Well,
Speaker 3: you know, as Jamar Chase expects, that gives up a
Speaker 3: whole lot.
Speaker 1: It's funny because everyone was saying, well, wait till the
Speaker 1: Steelers get to the back end of their schedule, it
Speaker 1: gets a lot harder, and that's probably when they're going
Speaker 1: to lose this division leader or not be as much
Speaker 1: of a factor. And all they've done in the back
Speaker 1: half since their bye week is beat the Commanders, beat
Speaker 1: the Ravens, winning Cincinnati. Their only loss was attended by
Speaker 1: Nick Schuck, but against the Browns. So you just can't
Speaker 1: predict this stuff. But up to losses on the Ravens,
Speaker 1: they do go to Philadelphia next week and then they
Speaker 1: go to Baltimore the week after. So as much as
Speaker 1: I'm just giving them some credit for playing well at
Speaker 1: this part of the schedule, two of the toughest games
Speaker 1: you could ask for coming up. If they can just
Speaker 1: split those one of those two games, they're going to
Speaker 1: be in great shape to win the division. If they
Speaker 1: lose them both, we will see. And yes, Cincinnati, even
Speaker 1: if you went out, you only get to nine and eight.
Speaker 1: That probably will not get you into the playoffs. And
Speaker 1: there's no reason to think this defense can help you
Speaker 1: win five straight games.
Speaker 3: On the pickings Bananas Index, though, this game was about
Speaker 3: a three all right, considering the no call that led
Speaker 3: to the pick six. He gets hit for a taunting call,
Speaker 3: which I'm still looking for the first good taunting call
Speaker 3: NFL history, and then he got finger guns. He got
Speaker 3: finger guns on another one, so it's not you know,
Speaker 3: he didn't come off the top Ropen hit anybody. A
Speaker 3: relatively calm Pickens game.
Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he's by far their best
Speaker 1: wide receiver. You can forgive a lot and it adds
Speaker 1: a lot of enjoyment for me just as a viewer.
Speaker 1: So keep bringing it, George Pickens. You're making me look
Speaker 1: good for having you number two in that draft class
Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, although I still don't know
Speaker 1: if you go number two. Let's go to Minnesota, where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Vikings played a fun one.
Speaker 9: Here. It is the game's on the line against the
Speaker 9: Arizona Cardinals.
Speaker 6: Fourth and ten for Kyler.
Speaker 9: Murray facing a five man rush. Kyler back to pass,
Speaker 9: throws right, Hanner's shop dead.
Speaker 6: Shotfin the game.
Speaker 9: Hen it's a high five for the Minnesota Vikings. They
Speaker 9: won five consecutive games. The final score twenty three twenty
Speaker 9: two Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Oh great call there, from Paul Allen on k A
Speaker 1: and how does he roll that G there?
Speaker 2: I can't do that.
Speaker 1: Big time defensive play by the Minnesota Vikings on a
Speaker 1: day where their defense just bended and bended and bended,
Speaker 1: but they didn't break in the end. And the more
Speaker 1: I watch this team shook, the more it's starting to
Speaker 1: remind me of the twenty twenty two Vikings where they
Speaker 1: they win all those games at the end. Today it
Speaker 1: hasn't been as lucky as that season. Or maybe it's
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Vikings where with case keenum and a
Speaker 1: magical ride you're making faces. Either way, this team is
Speaker 1: ten and two and they're finding ways to win games
Speaker 1: they're supposed to. And then in this case, nick I
Speaker 1: would say they found a way to win a game
Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have won.
Speaker 2: Most of the day was dominated by Arizona.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Well, first off, the twenty twenty two reference, let's hope
Speaker 4: it's not necessarily that because they don't want them upset
Speaker 4: at home in the playoffs. But sure we can get
Speaker 4: on board with this because they are finding ways to
Speaker 4: win these close games and they're stringing together, which is
Speaker 4: a very positive outcome. Of course, you want to stack wins,
Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, you know solid, you know, leveling out, not
Speaker 4: doing a little bit of a rise and fall that
Speaker 4: he was doing it a couple o' clockers along the way.
Speaker 4: Not today, not today. But I got to ask Claybond this,
Speaker 4: what happened to the search bar man?
Speaker 6: How do you hire you?
Speaker 4: Up? Nineteen to six in the third quarter, the search
Speaker 4: bar defense goes messing, oh, how dare you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, the search bar eventually, it eventually gave out.
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson slow throughout the game, it kind of funnel
Speaker 3: coverage his way and Sam Donald being streaky nick like, really,
Speaker 3: there was a point there in this game where I'm
Speaker 3: thinking about what we're gonna say afterwards, and it felt
Speaker 3: like the difference was in terms of the quarterback play.
Speaker 3: But then Sam Donald hits a plus. He has a
Speaker 3: great ball to Jordan Addison down the sideline with rushers
Speaker 3: in his face, hits Jefferson on multiple targets. I think
Speaker 3: that Justin Jefferson finished with ninety nine yards and he
Speaker 3: beat the search bar. You gotta make plays to beat
Speaker 3: the search bar, and Sam Donald made those plays today.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, say, how for a while it felt
Speaker 1: like the difference was going to be the quarterbacks, and
Speaker 1: then in the end you might say the difference, yeah,
Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks. Darnold faced pressure on fifty three point
Speaker 1: eight percent of his dropbacks today, which is an exceptionally
Speaker 1: high number. So the search bar was getting after it,
Speaker 1: and like he's done all season, very against type to
Speaker 1: what he was previously, he did well ten to fifteen
Speaker 1: against pressure for one hundred nineteen yards and two touchdowns.
Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray, who we noted in the previews show
Speaker 1: has struggled against the blitz all year. Well, he ends
Speaker 1: up facing blitzes on fifty two percent of his dropbacks.
Speaker 1: He only has five yards per attempt on those dropbacks
Speaker 1: with two interceptions, and that kind of was a difference
Speaker 1: because on the plays that they weren't blitzing, his numbers
Speaker 1: are great, and they forced him into a couple mistakes
Speaker 1: and they really bogged down in the red zone.
Speaker 2: I think they got down there.
Speaker 4: What was it.
Speaker 1: They settled for five Chad Ryland field goals, and they
Speaker 1: were a lot of them were just chip shots. A
Speaker 1: twenty three yarder, a twenty four yarder, a thirty one yarder,
Speaker 1: a thirty two yarder and a forty yarder, so they
Speaker 1: were moving the ball. Kyler had some plays on the ground,
Speaker 1: and yet they couldn't finish it off this game. At
Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen, with four to seventeen to go, Nick, the
Speaker 1: Cardinals had a first and goal from the five yard line,
Speaker 1: up three, and that was like it was all day.
Speaker 1: They end up moving backwards with a penalty, a bad run,
Speaker 1: and the Vikings end up forcing the field goal. At
Speaker 1: that point they had a ninety one percent chance to
Speaker 1: win according to next Gen Stats. Later on the Vikings
Speaker 1: drive to go take the lead. They have a fourth
Speaker 1: and seven. The Cardinals send the blitz. So it's one
Speaker 1: of those stats that I just referred to Sam Darnold
Speaker 1: against the blitz. They didn't blitz much in this game.
Speaker 1: I think it was like five to seven, but against pressure,
Speaker 1: and he hits a perfect pass on fourth and seven
Speaker 1: to keep the drive going. Then he eventually gets a
Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown. Let's listen to.
Speaker 6: That second and two from the Cardinals. Five takes the snap,
Speaker 6: four man rush, Sam to the right.
Speaker 11: Cut touch.
Speaker 6: Showtime and Aaron Jones say, just best for last. We're
Speaker 6: tied at twenty two.
Speaker 1: Oh Is Aaron Jones showtime. Is that his name name
Speaker 1: show on social media? I should I should know this,
Speaker 1: I should have that memorize. Yeah, Aaron Jones had a
Speaker 1: couple fumbles in this game. He got benched for a
Speaker 1: portion of it. He lost one of those fumbles and
Speaker 1: only ends up with twenty eight uh total yards or
Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage on eight touches. But he gets that
Speaker 1: important interception. This thing's this division's wide open in the
Speaker 1: NFC North. We get we get the Packers win to
Speaker 1: stay afloat in the division. Obviously they're going to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And the Vikings here at ten and two like they
Speaker 1: have a chance to be the one seed.
Speaker 3: They do and and because of late efforts, and Aaron
Speaker 3: Jones had the fumble at the start of the game.
Speaker 3: That's why he's you know, doing prayers in the end
Speaker 3: after that touchdown, because you know, the Vikings had a
Speaker 3: good start ended with an Aaron Jones fumble, but a
Speaker 3: good finish and the defense made plays. I think the
Speaker 3: biggest play in this game there was a third and
Speaker 3: ten in the in the start of the fourth quarter
Speaker 3: where the blitz comes on Kyler Michael Wilson's running towards
Speaker 3: the sideline. He sees Kyler in trouble and he starts
Speaker 3: to work back towards him. Well, Kyler's dealing with people,
Speaker 3: so he could throws the sideline route Byron Murphy sees
Speaker 3: that gets to the ball before he does interception. That's
Speaker 3: really the best opportunity that the Cardinals had late. This
Speaker 3: Vikings defense just makes plays, the offense picking them up
Speaker 3: when they need to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cardinals, this is a tough one because it's
Speaker 1: a road game against a playoff team and you really
Speaker 1: felt like you outplayed him for much of the game.
Speaker 1: That they they haven't had many close losses, like their
Speaker 1: losses have tended to be decisive, but they fall to
Speaker 1: the six and six, and after being in first place
Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, they are no longer because
Speaker 1: the team in Seattle. They got it done in a
Speaker 1: Gino revenge game. Oh he said it was a revenge game.
Speaker 12: Third down and seven from the Seattle nine. Blitch is coming,
Speaker 12: throw inside, It's picked off. Leo Williams coming near sign.
Speaker 12: He's running like a race horse. He's a midfield turns
Speaker 12: up fields blockers. Holy smokes, are you kidding?
Speaker 13: Leo Williams, it's gonna take it in for a touchdown, Seahawks.
Speaker 13: The Seahawks mess up a kick return, they dump it
Speaker 13: on the defense, and Leo Williams says, I got you covered,
Speaker 13: picks it off as he drops back into coverage, comes
Speaker 13: up the near sidelines in front of the bench, picks
Speaker 13: up blockers, and takes it all the way in for
Speaker 13: a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 1: Ka I r oh Steve Rabel I think he was
Speaker 1: about as tired halfway through that call as Leonard Williams was.
Speaker 1: It made his voice crack, that's how good of a
Speaker 1: play it was. That was part of a twenty six
Speaker 1: to twenty one victory by the Seahawks, which was absolutely
Speaker 1: keyed by that defense and yes, a little bit of luck.
Speaker 1: That was the key sequence of the entire game, even
Speaker 1: though it came in the second quarter, because just one
Speaker 1: play before that, Aaron Rodgers had what should have been
Speaker 1: a gimmey walking touchdown to Garrett Wilson, where I don't
Speaker 1: know if it was just inaccurate or he was confused
Speaker 1: on the route, but Aaron Rodgers sails it out of
Speaker 1: bounds after Wilson absolutely toasts the defender.
Speaker 2: On that play, very next play, pick six.
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, give this man a defensive player of the
Speaker 1: Week award. You didn't give it to him last week.
Speaker 1: I gave him the Captain Morgan's Captain.
Speaker 2: Of the Week.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he didn't get it. Pick and he
Speaker 1: got two sacks in this game. This defense to finish
Speaker 1: the game shook in eight straight drives, did not give
Speaker 1: up a point. They forced two turnovers and two turnovers
Speaker 1: on downs. And this is really a month I would
Speaker 1: say where Seattle's offense has been good enough, but I
Speaker 1: would say up and down. But their defense has kept
Speaker 1: them in games for long enough for Gino Smith to
Speaker 1: finally get the fourth quarter touchdown drive at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where the Seahawks season has shifted toward the positive,
Speaker 4: at least in our collective opinion. Is that Gino has
Speaker 4: not had to carry them in time at times, he's
Speaker 4: put them in bad spots. And the defense has consistently
Speaker 4: over the last few weeks been good, been better, kept
Speaker 4: them in games. Now it's getting them back into games
Speaker 4: and affording them more opportunities to take advantage of it.
Speaker 4: And Leonard Williams he is going to get that defensive
Speaker 4: play of the week, hopefully after not getting it last week.
Speaker 4: But Greg, good call on you for spotting him last
Speaker 4: week and that he was overlooked, because nobody's going to
Speaker 4: overlook in this week, and nobody's gonna overlook these Seahawks.
Speaker 4: I know they just beat the Jets, but the fashion
Speaker 4: in which they went to beat the Jets is what's
Speaker 4: going to resonate with a lot of people in a
Speaker 4: tightly packed, kind of messy NFC West. It seems like
Speaker 4: they're the team that's building steam late as we go
Speaker 4: into December, kind of figuring it all out and putting
Speaker 4: it together and playing balanced football well enough to go
Speaker 4: win on the road, to go overcome a twenty one
Speaker 4: to seven deficit when you just gave up a ninety
Speaker 4: nine yard kick return, to be able to bounce back
Speaker 4: and still fight and fight and fight, and then end
Speaker 4: up dominating defensively to the point where the other team
Speaker 4: has no chance to erase even a five point deficit
Speaker 4: and you come away with yet another victory in a
Speaker 4: big one. Considering what happened with the Cardinals.
Speaker 3: Yeah, having to fight in two phases because the third
Speaker 3: phase completely went out of the window. A kickoff return
Speaker 3: they fumbled. They had two separate kick returns, two separate
Speaker 3: kick returners fumble on kick returns. They had the Jets
Speaker 3: have that kick return for the touchdown. Then Michael Dixon
Speaker 3: goes down. They have to go for it on fourth
Speaker 3: and one because Jason Myers was getting ready to punt. Yeah,
Speaker 3: coach Mack didn't know who was going to be able
Speaker 3: to punt the ball. So they go for it deep
Speaker 3: in their own territory. Fortunately a penalty bails them out.
Speaker 3: They had a fourth and goal to go where Gino
Speaker 3: took a sack. So much went wrong for the Seahawks
Speaker 3: in this one. I do agree that they're a good team,
Speaker 3: but they don't escape if they're not playing a miserable
Speaker 3: institution like the New York Jo.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were lucky today. This game was so crazy.
Speaker 1: You mentioned so the kick return fumbles that they lost.
Speaker 1: They lost two of them, and they fumbled another one
Speaker 1: for good measure, and they gave up the kick return touchdown,
Speaker 1: and so people got like, wow, that is a absolutely
Speaker 1: brutal special team's day. That ignores the other kick returns
Speaker 1: that they gave up. Xavier Gibson went two for eighty
Speaker 1: one on his kick returns. Nwongwu, who had the touchdown,
Speaker 1: added another fifty seven yards in terms of kick returns.
Speaker 1: It is insane the field position that they were giving
Speaker 1: up play after play, and yes, you mentioned the Dixon injury.
Speaker 1: So it does remind you like when teams go for
Speaker 1: crazy fourth downs, like sometimes it really would help you, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: the exact scenarios that they went for it on the
Speaker 1: game winning drive, they went for a fourth and six
Speaker 1: on their own third in which the Jets committed a penalty,
Speaker 1: so that set up a fourth and one which they
Speaker 1: converted on the field goal drive. Before that, they also
Speaker 1: went for a fourth and six on their own forty
Speaker 1: four and again got bailed out. That was a play
Speaker 1: you're talking about by penalty. It felt like there were
Speaker 1: a lot of moments in this game where they were
Speaker 1: bailed out by penalty. Gino was solid in this game
Speaker 1: and certainly made some nice throws down the field to
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf who was in and out and banged up
Speaker 1: Dackson Smith in Jigba had some really important catches. They
Speaker 1: do seem to play their best when it matters the most,
Speaker 1: but it was more like that their offense was competent,
Speaker 1: whereas Aaron Rodgers and this Jets offense, which came out
Speaker 1: of the gates looking really good. They played a good
Speaker 1: couple first drives. I was like, this is the best
Speaker 1: I've seen DeVante Adams and Rogers. Look, Rogers looked a
Speaker 1: little faster today. And then after that first quarter it
Speaker 1: was brutal. Twelve targets for Adams, he has a terrible
Speaker 1: drop and a key penalty. Garrett Wilson had ten targets
Speaker 1: and Rogers just kept missing him. Rogers averaged under five
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. It's just dank and dunk and missing
Speaker 1: everything deep, not accurate, and it's just rough out here
Speaker 1: if you're Aaron Rodgers. After the game, Jeff Albrick, the
Speaker 1: Jets coach, was asked if he'd consider benching Rogers.
Speaker 6: This was the week.
Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron was.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to it.
Speaker 6: He was off the inter board, he was healthy.
Speaker 3: You said he was a healthy and in quite some
Speaker 3: time and you know, statistically didn't do well at all,
Speaker 3: had some trouble with his accuracy to pick six. Would
Speaker 3: you ever consider making a change at that position now?
Speaker 3: Not as if today good thing? We got the preface
Speaker 3: end for that question.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know he was.
Speaker 1: He was a little more certain about it nick in
Speaker 1: the past. So that makes you wonder if he knows
Speaker 1: that there's at least a chance he could get pressure
Speaker 1: from above. According to you know, Diana rassinat the Athletic,
Speaker 1: the owner wanted Rogers bench at some point.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing with this Jets team is it's
Speaker 4: not that year three to nine, just that you're, you know,
Speaker 4: trudging toward a dark winter in a hopeless season and
Speaker 4: you lose games like this. It's the fact that the
Speaker 4: Rogers cloud is now hanging over you and you have
Speaker 4: no idea what the future looks like. In fact, many
Speaker 4: Jets fans probably don't even want him involved. It sounds
Speaker 4: like the organization so them might not want him involved.
Speaker 2: He will not be you go from here. There's no way.
Speaker 1: And I thought he played better for time stay, but
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no way, you know, you bring
Speaker 1: him back, And what do you mean you think there is.
Speaker 3: He's been calling the shots the whole time, and so
Speaker 3: like you give him that much leeway.
Speaker 1: It's funny because now they've lost so many games that
Speaker 1: I do have to point out, like This is one
Speaker 1: of the better three and nine football teams I've seen
Speaker 1: in a long while. Like they are in all these
Speaker 1: games and I can see them convincing themselves as like
Speaker 1: we're so, we're so. They had a good defensive game
Speaker 1: plan for most of this, and they just they just lose.
Speaker 1: They have loser vibes where they find ways to lose.
Speaker 1: That is the opposite of what you know Smith does
Speaker 1: every time he faces a team that let him go.
Speaker 1: Now five and one, my faceavorite research note from Dante
Speaker 1: uh in our Next Gen Stats research department points out
Speaker 1: Gino Smith has that best record of all time against
Speaker 1: teams that have gotten rid of him five and one
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks that have played over five times. Let's see
Speaker 1: the tweet that that Gino had of If you're watching
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you know it's one of its.
Speaker 3: It's the meme of the the guy doing the fit
Speaker 3: check at his biggest haters funeral. Yes, and so that's all.
Speaker 1: That's how Eugenie, That's why I assigned myself this game
Speaker 1: and I will forevermore. If Gino Smith is playing in
Speaker 1: the Metowlands against the Jets, that's the ultimate revenge game.
Speaker 1: And he got the revenge for a first place Seahawks.
Speaker 3: Williams by the way, Yes, yeah Williams. Let's not forget
Speaker 3: him team revenge.
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't know if the Jets and
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams had a bad thing and then he played
Speaker 1: pretty well for the Giants. Really underrated career Leonard Williams Stadium. Yes,
Speaker 1: Gina Smith getting it done. Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 2: And let's head to.
Speaker 1: Uh what annually is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.
Speaker 1: I would say the NFC South.
Speaker 11: Robinson to his left looking middle of the field, no
Speaker 11: pressure throws.
Speaker 6: Editor spt in Derwin James. Hence the game to it Derwin.
Speaker 11: And due to their defense, the Bolts are gonna get
Speaker 11: on a plane back to Los Angeles.
Speaker 3: With a victory.
Speaker 1: KYSR Matt Money Smith our guy with a great call
Speaker 1: for the great Derwin James. Kind of nice to see
Speaker 1: Derwin James playing meaningful football in December and making big plays.
Speaker 1: Finally he's got a better defense and a better team
Speaker 1: around him. The Chargers are eight and four. They win
Speaker 1: at seventeen to thirteen, and that is Kirk Cousins fourth
Speaker 1: interception of the game, third nick of the second half,
Speaker 1: second in the fourth quarter back to back drives. Kirko
Speaker 1: Chains tell me it was better than the box score shows.
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. In fact, it might have been worse
Speaker 4: than the box scorer. I mean they moved the football
Speaker 4: well between the twenties. They got into the red zone
Speaker 4: a number of times, and Kirk he had had a
Speaker 4: few really ugly interceptions, including that Derwin James one, but
Speaker 4: the one that he threw in the red zone prior
Speaker 4: when they had their best opportunity to score a touchdown
Speaker 4: to take the lead was the worst, just most ill
Speaker 4: advised throw I've seen in a long time. He never
Speaker 4: had a shot of making it happen. That defined his day.
Speaker 4: They wasted so many opportunities. And I don't want to
Speaker 4: talk about the losers first, but their defense played its
Speaker 4: best game of the season. They got five sacks when
Speaker 4: they entered the game with ten combined as a team
Speaker 4: on the whole year. They got five today.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 4: And they did nothing with it offensively, and a lot
Speaker 4: of it had to do with Kirk Cousins not taking
Speaker 4: advantage of the opportunity. Bijon goes for one hundred and
Speaker 4: two yards to scores a rushing touchdown, they're up seven
Speaker 4: to nothing, they'd already missed a field goal earlier, could
Speaker 4: have been ten nothing, and then they can do nothing
Speaker 4: with it from there.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: It's a frustrating game for them, but another good win
Speaker 4: for the Chargers, whose defense I think made, you know,
Speaker 4: a statement. After giving up thirty points and that lost
Speaker 4: to the Ravens. They come back, They hold the Falcons
Speaker 4: to thirteen. They stiffen up in the red zone a
Speaker 4: few times. You know, it's a bend but not break
Speaker 4: group that really did a great job of confusing Kirk
Speaker 4: Cousins in the second half. Jesse Miners coaching really well
Speaker 4: right now, and they did just enough offensively and Cameron
Speaker 4: Dicker made just enough field goals for them to win
Speaker 4: this game on the road and get to eight and
Speaker 4: four and just prove that, hey, we're not going anywhere, like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we lost to the Ravens, but we're not going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick, you had eyes on this closer to you
Speaker 1: explain to me how the Chargers had one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards on the game. That's outrageous. That's one
Speaker 1: of the most surprising things I've seen all day. And
Speaker 1: the fact that they could lose that game. It must
Speaker 1: be driving them absolutely crazy because it's the opposite of
Speaker 1: how they've played the rest of the year, the Falcons
Speaker 1: that is.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's why I said wasted opportunities because they
Speaker 4: had a million in front of them. I mean, they
Speaker 4: were shutting down this Chargers offense. Justin Herbert had like
Speaker 4: no time to really operate all day. It looked just
Speaker 4: joined the entire day. The running game wasn't there. Lad
Speaker 4: McCaughey was the only guy making plays. Then he left
Speaker 4: the game with a knee injury. I mean they barely
Speaker 4: had the ball. They lost time possession by nearly twelve minutes.
Speaker 4: It was eleven minutes and fifty five seconds. It's just
Speaker 4: that the Falcons never finished off any of their drives.
Speaker 4: A lot of it was the Kirk picks, but it
Speaker 4: was also just not finishing the drives. So that's how
Speaker 4: it happens right there. But you know what, if you
Speaker 4: come away with a win like that, you gotta be
Speaker 4: feeling good because you kind of have to feel like
Speaker 4: you stole one, with a lot of that being credit
Speaker 4: to your defense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw David Anyamata got a sack. Arrobakatie got
Speaker 3: a couple of sex in this game of Falcons defense
Speaker 3: that hasn't been able to sack the quarterback at all
Speaker 3: this season, and Hassan Askins had a fumble to start
Speaker 3: the game, which got the Falcons that touchdown. But it's
Speaker 3: this game. It's one of those games where you can
Speaker 3: look at the box score and see exactly what went wrong.
Speaker 3: Those Kirk Cussins four interceptions right were brutal. He has
Speaker 3: eight touchdowns and one interception against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.
Speaker 3: This season, he has twelve interceptions. Wow, non Buccaneers games
Speaker 3: where you've really gone to a standpoint of we're talking
Speaker 3: about Rogers getting benched. Perhaps the Falcons should go to
Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback at this point.
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about it, because I think it's very
Speaker 4: much something that needs to happen right now.
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Raheem Morris who was asked about it.
Speaker 4: But you'll stick with kirket quarterback.
Speaker 1: You don't have any questions, Yeah, we got no.
Speaker 3: Isses with that man.
Speaker 14: Like, I don't think that's going to be the issue
Speaker 14: around here. You know, that guy's carried us. That guys
Speaker 14: got us to the point where six and six first
Speaker 14: place in division, still got everything in front of us.
Speaker 4: Noo.
Speaker 14: But despite what happens today, is up to us to
Speaker 14: bounce back and find a way to point football games.
Speaker 14: And there's no better man in eighteen than go do
Speaker 14: that for.
Speaker 4: Us strong, I have a response, please for you, raheem okay.
Speaker 4: According to NFL research, since Week ten, kirk Cousins has
Speaker 4: posted three straight games with the negative expected points added
Speaker 4: his negative twenty four point six EPA and that's span
Speaker 4: Riak's third lowest among quarterbacks. And I'm not done. Kirk
Speaker 4: Cousins is the first player with one hundred plus passing attempts,
Speaker 4: zero passing touchdowns, six or more inner and at least
Speaker 4: one pick six in a three game span since Brett
Speaker 4: Farv in weeks fourteen through sixteen of the two thousand
Speaker 4: and five season with the Packers. Now, Brett Farve's in
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, Kirk Cousins isn't going to be
Speaker 4: in the Hall of fame. But if the Falcons want
Speaker 4: to get to the playoffs, they may need to take
Speaker 4: a closer look at the situation right now because he's
Speaker 4: just not helping them, he's hurting them.
Speaker 1: I get all that, but I get why Raheem Morris
Speaker 1: is going to stick with him for as long as
Speaker 1: he can. He's moved the he's moved the ball well
Speaker 1: this year. He's been a turnover machine lately. That's what
Speaker 1: nine picks in the last six games. But he's also
Speaker 1: fumbled quite a bit. You fumbled today as well that
Speaker 1: that would have ended the game, but the Falcons fell
Speaker 1: on the fumble, so they got some luck there. So
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think, because if the Falcons
Speaker 1: went into the bye week and came out with a
Speaker 1: much more competent defense and pass fresh, they might just
Speaker 1: win this division. Despite everything, they're not a great team.
Speaker 2: These two teams.
Speaker 1: Define to me like borderline playoff team. But the Chargers,
Speaker 1: as we talked about going into it, Patrick, We're just
Speaker 1: going to be kind of like the team less likely
Speaker 1: to shoot themselves in the foot, And that's exactly what happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, JK. Dobbins is a real issue. And then
Speaker 3: you take, as as Shook mentioned, Lad McConkie off the field,
Speaker 3: and it gets to a point where it's it's hopeless
Speaker 3: for this Chargers team looking to make plays, even with
Speaker 3: their generationally gifted quarterback. They need the pieces there, but
Speaker 3: to see because I was so pleased right with the
Speaker 3: the boost that this Ravens pass rush had at SOFI
Speaker 3: Stadium against the Chargers. But now I'm seeing the Falcons
Speaker 3: get off against the offsive line, and it's like, wait
Speaker 3: a second, Perhaps what we saw was not necessarily improvement
Speaker 3: from Baltimore. Maybe there's problems on this Chargers offense.
Speaker 2: There absolutely are.
Speaker 1: It's on the interior especially, but even the tackles maybe
Speaker 1: not quite as strong as you would expect it. It's
Speaker 1: just caving in. And yeah, McConkie went nine for one
Speaker 1: to seventeen. The next closest receiver had twelve yards Quentin
Speaker 1: Johnson on four targets. And yet this this Chargers team's
Speaker 1: got a little bit of magic. When I have an
Speaker 1: excuse to listen to Matt Muney Smith for a second
Speaker 1: time in a game, I'm gonna do it. It was
Speaker 1: the defense scoring the points for the Chargers.
Speaker 11: Kyle Pitts left Bijon in the backfield. They take the snap,
Speaker 11: looking right, throwing.
Speaker 9: Right in accepted left sideline, thirty twenty tar head still touchdown.
Speaker 6: Chargers. Oh fear the turtle.
Speaker 1: We looked it up and tyre Heap still did go
Speaker 1: to the University of Maryland, a great win there by
Speaker 1: the Chargers to get to eight and four. It's gonna
Speaker 1: be tough to keep them out of the playoffs. If
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule, it's a fun one next
Speaker 1: week against Kansas City. We'll put a pin in that one.
Speaker 1: I think there's only one team making the playoffs from
Speaker 1: the NFC South. Is it going to be the Falcons
Speaker 1: or is it gonna be the bus It's time for
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive, presented by the all new hybrid toy Camra.
Speaker 1: Let's head to Carolina lead.
Speaker 6: A good snap, the spot a little old. The kicker
Speaker 6: is airborne, in his airborne.
Speaker 9: It's airborne, and it is God Box Win Box Win
Speaker 9: Box bit the Carolina Panthers.
Speaker 6: In overtime.
Speaker 2: Geene decker Hoff w f us Chase McLoughlin.
Speaker 1: On a day where some kickers struggled in big spots,
Speaker 1: he was massive, hitting a kick to force overtime after
Speaker 1: a late drive and then yes, that short field goal
Speaker 1: to win it twenty six to twenty three.
Speaker 2: In a game.
Speaker 1: Frankly, I didn't think the Bucks quite deserved. I thought
Speaker 1: that Panthers out played him for most of the day,
Speaker 1: but the kickers were a huge difference. Eddie Pinero, who
Speaker 1: at one point in the day was the number one
Speaker 1: overall kicker of all time of all time according to
Speaker 1: field goal percentage, misses two short ones in the first half.
Speaker 1: The Panther is bogged down in the red zone over
Speaker 1: and over again. Included a drop by Adam Thielen on
Speaker 1: a potential touchdown. There are a couple drops on nice
Speaker 1: Bryce Young throws. Bryce Young leads what could have been
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown drive, maybe the best moment of
Speaker 1: his young career, and I don't care that they lost
Speaker 1: the game. That to me was the story, very calm
Speaker 1: and composed. He gets the ball back with three minutes
Speaker 1: to go, down four kneeding a touchdown, gets it all
Speaker 1: the way down to the twenty five yard line. But
Speaker 1: today you know, play it safe and go slow. No,
Speaker 1: they get the game go ahead touchdown to Adam Thelm.
Speaker 6: Let's listen Bucks Rush four. Bryce in the pocket steps
Speaker 6: up elutes.
Speaker 8: The rush thros episode cut had a Thylan touchdown Carolina.
Speaker 6: The Panthers take the lead. What thirty seconds.
Speaker 2: Awesome performance by Bryce Young.
Speaker 1: I was watching him in Baker Mayfield and thinking of
Speaker 1: all the similarities that they have and seeing Rice Young
Speaker 1: outplay Baker Mayfield, and this would have been a great
Speaker 1: win for them. But I gotta think Panthers fans and
Speaker 1: eating Bryce Young fans like yourself, as disappointed as you
Speaker 1: must be. Patrick Man, it's just cool to watch him
Speaker 1: play in this well. He's stacking better weeks on top
Speaker 1: of better weeks every week.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe the only issue with these past two
Speaker 3: weeks with the Carolina Panthers, both at home, is scoring
Speaker 3: too fast in those closing moments. I mean, you can't
Speaker 3: blame him. That would happen with thirty seconds, just a
Speaker 3: brutal letdown to let Baker Mayfield to Mike Evans connect
Speaker 3: eventually leading to that big McLaughlin field goal to send
Speaker 3: the game into overtime. But Bryce nails again. I think
Speaker 3: he's had highlight reels on his incompletions these past few
Speaker 3: weeks where he's baking throws, putting the ball in the
Speaker 3: right spot, making the right decision. I know people are
Speaker 3: gonna credit him sitting down for it. I think, just
Speaker 3: like if we want to look at Kirk Cousins in
Speaker 3: these past few games, so Kirk Cousins was on a
Speaker 3: touchdown streak. He had seven touchdowns and one interception after
Speaker 3: beating the Dallas Cowboys and so like, are we saying
Speaker 3: that the Dallas Cowboys deep?
Speaker 6: Oh, it is what led.
Speaker 3: I just think Bryce has talent. We're seeing it play out.
Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers are playing better. Jonathan Brooks had his
Speaker 3: best game and his young career, and his limited opportunities,
Speaker 3: of course are brutal fumbled by Chewbah Hubbard. But overall,
Speaker 3: the team is better and I think people have a
Speaker 3: better idea of what Bryce can do.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were in position to win this game a
Speaker 1: couple times in overtime, or rather a couple times in
Speaker 1: the game right at the end of regulation, as I
Speaker 1: mentioned that, they played from ahead for a good chunk
Speaker 1: of the game before the Bucks made a fourth quarter comeback.
Speaker 1: And then yes, he has one of his best throws
Speaker 1: of the year, Bryce Young. That is on third down
Speaker 1: and it really points out what he's been doing well.
Speaker 1: The Bucks send basically a zero blitz at him. He
Speaker 1: stands in there and knows he's going to take a hit,
Speaker 1: throws a pass to Adam thelen Way before theln makes
Speaker 1: his break and then Theelan who who ends up with
Speaker 1: eight for ninety nine. This guy is ageless and the
Speaker 1: touchdown that dropped, you know, just a one salty reminder
Speaker 1: of the day. But otherwise he was absolutely fantastic. Makes
Speaker 1: a ridiculous one handed catch, and that's what Bryce has
Speaker 1: been doing. It's been next level anticipation throws. They're in
Speaker 1: position to win the game in Tuba, Harbard fumbles on
Speaker 1: the very next play. Unfortunately, Bucks go down and get
Speaker 1: the win. I do want to give a lot of
Speaker 1: credit to the Bucks for hanging in there and winning
Speaker 1: a game that maybe in the past they wouldn't have.
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving Nick ends up twenty five for one point
Speaker 1: fifty two. Also thirty three yards on the ground. What
Speaker 1: if I told you that Bucky Irving has four hundred
Speaker 1: and twenty four yards over the last three games. That's
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Three touchdowns and he looks good doing it,
Speaker 1: like he makes so many people miss. He's now better
Speaker 1: in the receiving game. He to me, was the difference
Speaker 1: when they came back in this game. It wasn't because
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield, who eventually made a few good plays
Speaker 1: but otherwise had one of his worst games of the season.
Speaker 1: It was because they're running game and the red zone
Speaker 1: defense kept them in it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like every time you looked up you
Speaker 4: saw Bucky Irving ripping off a long run. And it's
Speaker 4: nice to see him taking the lead back role in
Speaker 4: this offense because for the first half of the season,
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles was like, I want to play both of them.
Speaker 4: Hey man bershad White, I'm not sure will he gets
Speaker 4: twenty five carries Vershod gets eleven. To day, I think
Speaker 4: we know who the number one back in that room is.
Speaker 4: But you know what, Greg, you are a true pro.
Speaker 4: You know how I know you're a truth pro because
Speaker 4: you totally sidestepped on perfect opportunity as king of all
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield haters to hate on Baker Mayfield and the
Speaker 4: game of which he threw two interceptions that were both
Speaker 4: kind of predetermined anticipatory throws. He basically gave the Panthers
Speaker 4: opportunities to build this lead and then came back and
Speaker 4: was able to lead them on that field goal drive.
Speaker 4: Chase McLaughlin misses the first field goal in overtime, gives
Speaker 4: the Panthers an opportunity. Then they come down and Baker
Speaker 4: leads them down again. I can't believe you didn't swing
Speaker 4: for the fences on.
Speaker 1: That I would have gotten there eventually. Thank you Nick
Speaker 1: for setting me up. I did say it was one
Speaker 1: of his worst games of the season, and the interesting
Speaker 1: part of that is I would have said that before
Speaker 1: the interception, he was in Baker Create mode, and it
Speaker 1: was like Baker Create mode gone wrong. And that's where
Speaker 1: I saw the comparisons between him and Bryce Young, because
Speaker 1: Bryce Young throw it with so much anticipation, and when
Speaker 1: he went create mode today and stepped up them in
Speaker 1: the pocket, he had such a good feel for things,
Speaker 1: whereas Baker was kind of doing the thing where he
Speaker 1: would spin around but then spin right into a sack
Speaker 1: and create more problems than was initially even there. He
Speaker 1: got hurt at one point and looked serious. He was
Speaker 1: in the medical tent for an entire Panthers drive and
Speaker 1: then missed a couple plays, and then he comes out
Speaker 1: on third down.
Speaker 2: It's like Baker Mayfield the hero.
Speaker 1: And that's when he throws his second interception, which didn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with his health. It was just
Speaker 1: he didn't see the underneath the fender and zone coverage,
Speaker 1: which happens a lot with Baker, so it wasn't a
Speaker 1: good game for him, and you're really seeing that their
Speaker 1: offense is all about ten yards. In under he was
Speaker 1: six for thirteen on throws over ten yards and that's
Speaker 1: been the case for much of the season. But the
Speaker 1: reason I didn't hit Hardnick is those last couple drives.
Speaker 1: Actually he was He did the right He did well
Speaker 1: like so it's like his defense in his running game
Speaker 1: gave him a chance. But he did make some good
Speaker 1: plays at the end to win it. And they do
Speaker 1: have a Knaka doing that, including.
Speaker 3: A big run on that final drive in regulation to
Speaker 3: give Chase McLoughlin a chance to do it. I think
Speaker 3: the leg might have had a little impact on his
Speaker 3: performance late, especially he comes back in immediately throws that interception.
Speaker 2: He might have been better late, though he was. He
Speaker 2: was awful in the first half of this game.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, yeah, I feel like he got stepped on.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they showed the replay, didn't It
Speaker 3: looked like anything happened on the play. But then at
Speaker 3: the end of the play he got stepped on. His
Speaker 3: ankle went in a weird direction. I was kind of
Speaker 3: gimpy on that big run, but enough enough to get
Speaker 3: a win.
Speaker 2: Huge win.
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what a brutal loss it's going to
Speaker 1: be for them because they don't have the tiebreaker against Atlanta.
Speaker 1: This would be another division loss for the Buccaneers, but
Speaker 1: instead you get this victory. You're six and six, You're
Speaker 1: now tied with the Falcons. The schedule is more forgiving
Speaker 1: for them, and right now you'd have to say the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are the slight favorite to win that division, but
Speaker 1: we got five weeks of sloppy NFC South football to go.
Speaker 1: Disappointing for the Panthers because they legitimately could have felt like,
Speaker 1: are we in.
Speaker 2: This division race? You never know.
Speaker 1: They are definitely playing better and I think they're a
Speaker 1: tough out. Sometimes it's not about your strength is schedule,
Speaker 1: it's when you play a team. And if you're playing
Speaker 1: the Panthers, now you're you're playing a reborn Bryce Young.
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about him for QB Island this week.
Speaker 1: Oh maybe I'm just saying he's playing that kind of
Speaker 1: football over the last month, just saying that. That was
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Speaker 1: they're keeping an eye on the Commanders because if there's
Speaker 1: gonna be another wild card spot available, maybe it would
Speaker 1: be because of a Commander's slide. We'll see if that
Speaker 1: continued in landover third goal, Tennessee's got six across the line,
Speaker 1: a quick throw to carry the court, caught it, touch down,
Speaker 1: touchdown log again his second and a half.
Speaker 8: Death Texas and terrible torf win it on the slast
Speaker 8: look it and that's exactly what he did too, get
Speaker 8: into his own for the second top in this game
Speaker 8: against the Tipessee types.
Speaker 1: Oh London Fletcher one of the great Washington football team players.
Speaker 1: You know what I you know what I'm getting at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Commanders get the win forty two to nineteen. Bram Einstein
Speaker 1: and wb IG also involved there. Yes, Terry McLaurin. That
Speaker 1: was his second touchdown of the day. And look, Jaden
Speaker 1: Daniels came out. He was accurate and he they got
Speaker 1: to win with a twenty seven to nothing lead. Here
Speaker 1: shook and never looked back.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Titans did just about everything they could to
Speaker 4: put themselves in a very hole. I mean, the essentially
Speaker 4: their first four possessions were not great. Let's go punt, punt, fumble,
Speaker 4: We're down twenty one points. Let's fumble the ensuing kickoff return.
Speaker 4: Now we're down twenty eight points. Oh god, we're down
Speaker 4: four touchdowns. What are we gonna do?
Speaker 15: You know?
Speaker 4: I felt like Will Levis never really had much of
Speaker 4: a chance to get going. By the time they were
Speaker 4: down twenty one to nothing, they'd run ten plays. Okay,
Speaker 4: they'd run ten total plays by the time they were
Speaker 4: down by three scores. You know what happens the game
Speaker 4: script when that happens. And they did do a good
Speaker 4: job of fighting back eventually, but the Commanders man back
Speaker 4: in stride. They take advantage of turnovers, they produce points.
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels looks good again. He's ripping the ball over
Speaker 4: the field. He's fining Terry McLaurin for two touchdowns in
Speaker 4: the first half. Everything's flown. Brian Robinson slices through that
Speaker 4: defense like it's you know, hot knife through butter for
Speaker 4: the first touchdown. Everything's rolling for them. The rumors of
Speaker 4: a Cliff Kingsbury late season slide Oh, they're way over
Speaker 4: blown because they're playing the Titans. It was a good
Speaker 4: day for them. It was good for them to get
Speaker 4: back on the right track and play, you know, solid
Speaker 4: team football. They did let the Titans kind of back
Speaker 4: into it in the second half, but it was never
Speaker 4: really in doubt and finish strong and good for them
Speaker 4: to get to eight and five.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big win for them.
Speaker 1: But Cliff got the run game going, or at least
Speaker 1: the players got the run game going. I don't know,
Speaker 1: we have to put it all on the offensive coordinator,
Speaker 1: but Nick for them to go for two hundred and
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards on the ground, and right off the
Speaker 1: bat when Robinson ripped that forty yard touchdown and that's
Speaker 1: on their first drive of the game. That was before
Speaker 1: any mistakes by Tennessee offensively. To me, that that showed
Speaker 1: something a little different because this has been a tough
Speaker 1: Titans team to run against. And Chris Rodriguez goes for
Speaker 1: ninety four, Robinson ends up with one hundred and three.
Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols when he's out there five point three yards
Speaker 1: per carry.
Speaker 2: They're not throwing the ball down the field almost at all.
Speaker 1: All of jayde Daniels's yards almost were on ten yards
Speaker 1: and underthrow, So it's kind of back to their formula
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season.
Speaker 2: But that's a skin.
Speaker 1: If they're running the ball like that, and they did
Speaker 1: it against a good team like they have a chance
Speaker 1: to remain scary down the stretch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is a necessary reset for them because
Speaker 4: I think they felt a little bit too in love
Speaker 4: with throwing the ball down fieldally trying to during that
Speaker 4: stretch of losses. So shortening the passing game was good.
Speaker 4: But you can only do that if you're running the
Speaker 4: ball well. And we can give Cliff some credit because
Speaker 4: the Titans were one of the toughest teams to run against.
Speaker 4: Like you said, they were allowing less than a yard
Speaker 4: per carry before contact on design runs. Today they came
Speaker 4: up a ton. I mean, obviously we saw the two
Speaker 4: hundred and forty six yards and three touchdowns on design runs,
Speaker 4: including seventy eight yards over expected. And get this, two
Speaker 4: point eight yards before contact per carry. That's two hole
Speaker 4: yards per carry more than the Titans were allowing coming
Speaker 4: in here. So credit to the offensive line in the
Speaker 4: scheme at least. I don't know if it's necessarily Cliff
Speaker 4: to get that going, which really balanced out their offense,
Speaker 4: allowed them to operate in the short passing game and
Speaker 4: run away with the thing so much that they kind
Speaker 4: of rested on their loyals in the third quarter before
Speaker 4: they woke up and finish the thing off.
Speaker 1: Future Chicago Bears head coach Cliff Thingsberry, well, who knows,
Speaker 1: We'll hold that top cars for a minute. Later, They're
Speaker 1: eight and five. They finally got to their bye week.
Speaker 1: I thought this was a big game for them because
Speaker 1: they have a couple games where they will be favored
Speaker 1: significantly against the Saints and the Cowboys down the stretch.
Speaker 1: They probably just need to get to ten wins. This
Speaker 1: was a big one to get.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they keep their quarterback clean in doing so,
Speaker 3: where I know we had kind of put the rib
Speaker 3: concerns away for Jayden a couple of weeks ago, but
Speaker 3: this clearly like this rushing performance and passing performance. I
Speaker 3: think you only had five incompletions in this game. And
Speaker 3: I will give Cliff credit because it wasn't like a
Speaker 3: late game Hail Mary type situation. We saw Terry McLaurin
Speaker 3: on the right side of the field, ano they're touchdown
Speaker 3: today in the middle of the game, like, not in
Speaker 3: a weird scenario. I don't think it's a situation like
Speaker 3: in the Bengals game where Terry called to play. I
Speaker 3: think this was Cliff and so the adjustment in the
Speaker 3: late season Cliff, Yes, meter goes back down and yeah,
Speaker 3: a plus performance by Cliff Kingsbury against the Titans team
Speaker 3: that was fun and dan Quinn's defense as well as
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury's offense drained all the fun away from the
Speaker 3: late season Titan.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Levius through seven passes in terms of his attempts
Speaker 1: of over twenty yards on the day. Jayden only attempted
Speaker 1: six throws over ten yards on the day. So that's
Speaker 1: the types of different types of offense. And the score
Speaker 1: certainly was part of that. They didn't need to do more.
Speaker 1: Terry ends up with two touchdowns eight for seventy three
Speaker 1: through the air. He was fired up after the game.
Speaker 1: This is courtesy of the commanders on Twitter. Hey, that's
Speaker 1: a good.
Speaker 6: Team win, man, that's a play team win. Hey, we
Speaker 6: put the standard out there today, bro he while we
Speaker 6: don't come out every single week like that.
Speaker 13: From practice, the energy, the practice, the preparation, all of it, man,
Speaker 13: That's what it.
Speaker 6: Takes to do what we do.
Speaker 2: Let's go.
Speaker 3: I'm ready to play.
Speaker 1: There's something about Terry McLaurin when he speaks, just to
Speaker 1: look at his eyes, it's like, oh yeah, I would
Speaker 1: follow that man anywhere.
Speaker 2: That dude is the dude.
Speaker 1: And kind of like I mentioned with Derwin James earlier
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, even more so with Terry McLaurin. It
Speaker 1: is cool to see him playing meaningful December football. So
Speaker 1: the commander is trying to get a wild card spot
Speaker 1: in the NF. The same is true for the Colts
Speaker 1: in the AFC. Let's go to Foxborough and let's start
Speaker 1: at the end fourth and three seventeen seconds left, Anthony
Speaker 1: Richardson with the game on the line.
Speaker 15: Shotgun snap for Richardson backs to throw lookie left fires
Speaker 15: into the end zone is a touchdown.
Speaker 6: Gun got him touchdown.
Speaker 2: Colts. He's going for two and it's Alec Pearce and
Speaker 2: he's going for two.
Speaker 16: What great poise and precision on the pass Anthony Richardson
Speaker 16: to pierce in the left side of the end zone
Speaker 16: and it's now twenty four to twenty three.
Speaker 17: Anthony Richardson out of the gun, Jonathan Taylor is his
Speaker 17: back left, go to Pittman shotgun, snap for Richardson and
Speaker 17: he's trying to crash up field.
Speaker 2: He got it.
Speaker 1: He is.
Speaker 17: Chief points for the Colts in eight point possession.
Speaker 8: Give it to your best player on offense and he
Speaker 8: delivers bock on top.
Speaker 16: Twenty five, twenty four, twelve ticks to go, No, never.
Speaker 1: A doubt Matt Taylor and Rick VN Turrey w F
Speaker 1: and I an ending so good we had to play
Speaker 1: two plays. Anthony Richardson, Yes, gets the touchdown when he
Speaker 1: needs it to Alec Pearce, mister clutch this year. Alec
Speaker 1: Pierce spice Rack was right all those years ago on
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast coming into the draft, Saint
Speaker 1: Alec Pearce was gonna be a guy and he's turned
Speaker 1: into a guy. And yes, the the Huevos and the
Speaker 1: trust of Shane Steichen in that moment to know that
Speaker 1: two yards out Anthony Richardson running the ball, you're not
Speaker 1: gonna get a better chance to go ahead and win
Speaker 1: the game. You don't want to go to overtime with
Speaker 1: Drake May anyways, Let's let Anthony Richardson run it in
Speaker 1: Pat Patriots actually got in position to potentially steal one,
Speaker 1: but the Colts get it done in the ena, and.
Speaker 3: They get it done mainly with a lot of the
Speaker 3: supporting cast for Indianapolis coming up short. Late in the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Ad Mitchell on Anthony Richardson's best throw of
Speaker 3: the day down the sideline, had a drop. Kylon Granson
Speaker 3: on the final drive had another huge drop, and you
Speaker 3: wonder what was going to be the ultimate storyline another
Speaker 3: game where the Colts coming into it. You look at
Speaker 3: the box score, say, Anthony Richardson can't make these completions. Late,
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce comes up with that catch, and then we
Speaker 3: heard the result of Anthony Richardson going in in an
Speaker 3: up and down game that started with the Patriots having
Speaker 3: an incredible drive. I'm thinking, in the back of my head,
Speaker 3: I'm hearing Greg Rosenthal's voice talking about Alex van Pelt
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, so he's dolling it up. Riman J.
Speaker 3: Stevenson has a thirty two yard run, Drake May goes
Speaker 3: Drake May, and then they get into the red zone
Speaker 3: and things clog up. They had a third goal on
Speaker 3: that first drive of the game. Ultimately run mesh. You're
Speaker 3: playing against the Colts, So Gus Bradley's got everybody sitting
Speaker 3: in the zone against all the crossers. Drake May has
Speaker 3: nothing going there, get sacked, and that's the theme. The
Speaker 3: Patriots have a ton of red zone possessions, a lot
Speaker 3: of them resulting in field goals when they do make
Speaker 3: the plays. Anthony Richardson and the Colts came back and
Speaker 3: ultimately got this win on a great call by Shane
Speaker 3: Stecken and great play about the second year quarterback out
Speaker 3: of Florida.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Patriots go two for six in the red zone.
Speaker 1: They have one of their best offensive games of the season.
Speaker 1: Not just twenty four points, which for them is a
Speaker 1: big number, but four hundred and twenty two yards. They
Speaker 1: outgained the Colts by over one hundred and fifty yards,
Speaker 1: and that includes a final drive. And they almost left
Speaker 1: too much time for Drake May. They give him twelve seconds.
Speaker 1: They do the gutlass totally idiotic touchback thing coaches. This
Speaker 1: is just such an obvious mistake that coaches keep making.
Speaker 1: This is the exact scenario where you kick it short
Speaker 1: of the end zone, you might end up tackling them
Speaker 1: before the thirty anyways, and you burn some clock. But
Speaker 1: instead they give the ball to the Patriots at the thirty.
Speaker 1: That gives them time to actually have an incompletion where
Speaker 1: it goes off Hunter Henry's hands. But then Mate sets
Speaker 1: up a bomb of a field goal attempt Joey Sly
Speaker 1: from sixty eight yards out after a couple throws to
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry that the kick comes up short from Joey Sly.
Speaker 1: You know, we did check to see if that was
Speaker 1: a fun call from Zolac. He was subdued actually in
Speaker 1: that moment. But I am happy to tell you that
Speaker 1: the two point conversion try that Anthony Richardson hit was
Speaker 1: a good one. So let's listen to that.
Speaker 6: The Colt we're we're going to go for it here.
Speaker 16: Look at this, so scratch those remarks about an extra
Speaker 16: point at overtime. Shane Stike, and the head coach of
Speaker 16: the Colts, is playing for the win.
Speaker 6: White bare right now.
Speaker 16: Twelve seconds ago in twenty four to twenty three New England,
Speaker 16: Richardson on the gun, Taylor to his left, a two
Speaker 16: point try for the win.
Speaker 2: Two receivers left to right, fake to Taylor, thrown out
Speaker 2: the middle.
Speaker 16: Richardson po his way forward, he breaks the plane he's
Speaker 16: in for the two point one and the coach man
Speaker 16: from the nearest sideline and they've taken the lead twenty
Speaker 16: five twenty four with twelve seconds to go.
Speaker 6: Credit to them. That takes pauls. That takes big ones.
Speaker 3: Normally we use euphemism Scott, but.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like it.
Speaker 1: I like it, And he was giving them credit in
Speaker 1: a big spot like game recognizes game, you know, Zolak
Speaker 1: six and seven, Chookie, they get to there by both
Speaker 1: these teams, they both just felt like they needed a
Speaker 1: buye And what a big victory for Indianapolis because it
Speaker 1: really would have felt like this thing's over if you
Speaker 1: lose in Foxborough to so it would have just been
Speaker 1: a much different feel going into the bye. But now
Speaker 1: you get a win, and who knows, I've seen teams reset,
Speaker 1: especially with this late bye where the last four games
Speaker 1: they're a little bit of a different team and they
Speaker 1: try to figure some things out, and they're at six
Speaker 1: and seven, they're in the.
Speaker 4: Mix, yeah, minding the score and just like, man, this
Speaker 4: would be such a face plant they lost this game
Speaker 4: today considering where they are, but it does set up
Speaker 4: for them really well. You come out of that buy,
Speaker 4: you go on the road to Denver. That's a challenging game,
Speaker 4: of course, But then you get Tennessee at home. You're
Speaker 4: at the Giants at MetLife where we know they're notoriously bad,
Speaker 4: and then they come home and they played Jacksonville Jaguars
Speaker 4: in week eighteen. You can win those last three games, Like,
Speaker 4: I'm picking you in those last three games right now.
Speaker 4: So if you can get past Denver and you go
Speaker 4: four and oh we know what we're talking about, baby,
Speaker 4: that's nine and ten and sevens some along those lines.
Speaker 4: I can't even do math in my head right now
Speaker 4: because I'm so surprised by the outcome. Yes, ten and seven,
Speaker 4: eleven and seven math, whatever it is. Games nine and eight.
Speaker 2: Might get it done.
Speaker 1: If you if you can win the division games, we
Speaker 1: will see we keep get winning games.
Speaker 9: Here.
Speaker 1: On NFL Daily people said, people said, Greg, you're really
Speaker 1: gonna go survivor pick against Drake May. Isn't that tempting fate?
Speaker 1: You're really gonna be that bold? They are the Colts
Speaker 1: really that good? We had faith, Patrick, we did it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was so much doubt, right, there was significant
Speaker 3: amounts of doubt.
Speaker 1: I thought it was over and the other one we
Speaker 1: were debating was Seattle, which they were in trouble all
Speaker 1: game two, and you know what, we were picking between
Speaker 1: two winners. But sometimes in life and in NFL seasons,
Speaker 1: you need a.
Speaker 15: Little bit of luck.
Speaker 3: It's Colts got some today. It just it works out.
Speaker 3: I remember the two point conversion for the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 3: late where they pull guards, the guards trip over themselves
Speaker 3: and then Lamar has nowhere to go. Here you get
Speaker 3: to see the other side where Quentin Nelson is the puller.
Speaker 3: He comes across to Christian Barmo on the two point
Speaker 3: conversion and absolutely flattens m. Anthony Richardson goes in the
Speaker 3: end zone. Just a great call, great execution by the Colts,
Speaker 3: helping us servar.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this closer on the old
Speaker 1: NFL plus maybe a little NFL prony.
Speaker 3: And how I'm gonna both dual screen.
Speaker 1: Give me your give me your very short Drake Bay
Speaker 1: just I can't wait to find out like your your
Speaker 1: may review for the day, because a good day offensively
Speaker 1: for them, I'm still like thinking like anytime they're out
Speaker 1: gaining opponents by one hundred and fifty yards and they're
Speaker 1: two leading receivers by far or Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper.
Speaker 1: You must have something pretty good at quarterback.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And with the Austin Hooper touchdown, the streak continues
Speaker 3: of Drake May's touchdown passes going to different receivers.
Speaker 1: What is the streak?
Speaker 2: I didn't know this streak almost.
Speaker 3: Every Drake I think there's only one common recipient of
Speaker 3: Drake May touchdown passes, which has kind of been the story.
Speaker 3: He's spreading the ball around. Just a fun player to
Speaker 3: watch on a team that is lacking talent wise, where
Speaker 3: you get a lot of consternation from a fan base
Speaker 3: that expects excellence and some of those excellent players or elsewhere.
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah they are and they're three and ten.
Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to my dad, Tom Rosenthal,
Speaker 1: who was probably watching this game at my house. Great
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving visit, came in for a little NFL Daily, and
Speaker 1: I was just telling him, don't worry about all this
Speaker 1: this week to weeks at the only thing that matters
Speaker 1: this season is Drake May.
Speaker 2: And I'm already you know, I'm already calling the victory
Speaker 2: that is that this is a.
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten draft pick, you might as well
Speaker 1: get a higher pick for next year. As long as
Speaker 1: he keeps building and looking better each and every week,
Speaker 1: that's all that really matters for this team.
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.
Speaker 1: We will see if the Colts Division rival Texans came
Speaker 1: through in Jacksonville.
Speaker 15: On the other side, cj will get up to the
Speaker 15: line of scrimmage. I formation, third down and five across
Speaker 15: the Houston forty nine yard line. Mixon the tailback, here's
Speaker 15: the toss to Joe running.
Speaker 1: Left, has room, He's got it across the forty forty one.
Speaker 6: That's gonna do it.
Speaker 15: The Texans will kill the clock and they will beat Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: Today they did it. Yes, Joe Mixon sealed the victor.
Speaker 1: Thought that was an important moment for this team. Late
Speaker 1: as the walls are caving in, you're blowing big lead
Speaker 1: to Mac Jones and the Jaguars. More on that in
Speaker 1: a second. It was the running game, a revived running
Speaker 1: game in the second half of this game that got
Speaker 1: them over the finish line. Yes, Joe Mixon goes one
Speaker 1: hundred in one yards on twenty carries. Their success rate
Speaker 1: was pretty high forty five percent, and throughout the second
Speaker 1: half of this game, their offense did move the ball.
Speaker 1: No team in the NFL I believe needs a bye
Speaker 1: week more than this Houston Texans team to just reset,
Speaker 1: get healthy, figure things out. They get into the buy
Speaker 1: at eight and five, and it was a little up
Speaker 1: and down shook, but Nico Collins goes eight for one
Speaker 1: to nineteen and Stroud didn't look great to me. He
Speaker 1: wasn't pressured that much in this game, and yet he
Speaker 1: looked a little skittish. And yet I was really encouraged
Speaker 1: that even against the Jaguars, at least you were able
Speaker 1: to run the ball in the second half of this game,
Speaker 1: which you just were not able to in the first half,
Speaker 1: or really the first half of this whole season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably what prevented them from blowing this game,
Speaker 4: if you think about it. I mean, it's beyond that
Speaker 4: last play that we just played, which, by the way,
Speaker 4: shout out to Robert Woods, who's not much of a
Speaker 4: factor in the passing game, but made a big block
Speaker 4: on that play to get the edge. So the first
Speaker 4: down it's a veteran move right there. Good job out
Speaker 4: of Bobby Trees. Yeah, you're right. I think they definitely
Speaker 4: need this by a week. We've seen how up and
Speaker 4: down they are this season. We've seen how they've struggled
Speaker 4: with the pass protection, and even on a day in
Speaker 4: which they really protected better than usual, they still struggled offensively.
Speaker 4: I don't know if a week is going to fix them,
Speaker 4: but it would have been much worse if you left
Speaker 4: Jacksonville with a loss, because then you're soul searching. Then
Speaker 4: you're looking at it and saying, how do we lose
Speaker 4: to a Jaguars team that lost Trevor Lawrence to injury
Speaker 4: in a game and Mac Jones Camp comes in and
Speaker 4: throws two touchdowns on us. They have this frantic comeback
Speaker 4: That would have been terrible. So it's good that you
Speaker 4: get out of there with that win. It's good that
Speaker 4: Nico Collins is still doing Nico Collins things, which God,
Speaker 4: he's I mean, even the most stimistic projectors for him
Speaker 4: coming out of Michigan never would have seen him be
Speaker 4: this good in the NFL. He's awesome. But still, yeah,
Speaker 4: there's still a couple steps away from being the Texans
Speaker 4: team that I think we want them to be because
Speaker 4: of pass projection, but really because of offensive rhythm and
Speaker 4: flow in general. So good time to going to the
Speaker 4: buyo with a win, and that's pretty much it.
Speaker 1: This reminded me of so many Texans games while Nego
Speaker 1: Collins was hurt and I just was watching it thinking, oh,
Speaker 1: they'd lose this game without Nego Collins. It is that
Speaker 1: big of a difference because on offense they have six
Speaker 1: points at halftime, a couple short field field goal drives,
Speaker 1: but otherwise struggling. But like I said, in the second half,
Speaker 1: for the most part, they moved the ball and they
Speaker 1: moved it well, and so did Mac Jones. Let's get
Speaker 1: to the reason why he was in this game though.
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence takes a really rough late hit from Aziz
Speaker 1: al Shaier, who was immediately ejected from the game. Jerry
Speaker 1: and Jones, the Jaguars cornerback, comes in and tries to
Speaker 1: protect her stick up for his quarterback. He ends up
Speaker 1: getting ejected too, So there was offsetting penalties that the injury,
Speaker 1: and the penalty didn't even really hurt the Texans, it
Speaker 1: helped them because it took Trevor Lawrence out of the game.
Speaker 2: I am curious what the NFL will do with this one.
Speaker 1: Feels like he might get suspended beyond this week because
Speaker 1: it basically is everything you don't want to see, a
Speaker 1: super late hit and you you saw Lawrence there in
Speaker 1: the fencing position. Uh, and it was a concussion. After
Speaker 1: the game, Doug Peterson talked about it. Let's us let's listen.
Speaker 10: Well, I was excited for Trevor to get back out there,
Speaker 10: you know, and and start for our team and lead
Speaker 10: our football team. You know, this week that was always
Speaker 10: the the goal, you know, was to shoot for you know,
Speaker 10: the Houston game and getting back out there. And you know,
Speaker 10: it's just again, it's unfortunate. It's a it's a play
Speaker 10: that that really has no you know, business being in
Speaker 10: our in our league.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll show here at this point has this is
Speaker 3: not as first time right in an involvement where people
Speaker 3: are questioning, right, his commitment to the type of atmosphere
Speaker 3: that we would like to see in an NFL game.
Speaker 1: A clip of him taking Tom Brady out in the
Speaker 1: neck when Brady was on the bucks that was flowing
Speaker 1: out there yet.
Speaker 3: And so I can understand people saying it's a difficult
Speaker 3: spot for a defender when the quarterback is in this
Speaker 3: sliding motion there. But there's no reason to launch and
Speaker 3: to bring your arm up, which is protected by a
Speaker 3: giant brace directly at the head and neck area the
Speaker 3: quarterback as Treford Lawrence's head gets bounced off the ground.
Speaker 3: There issues with because the fight, which is understandablely Evan
Speaker 3: Ingram grabbed a hold of al Shire, did not let
Speaker 3: go for at least fourteen seconds after that. Of course,
Speaker 3: Jones and al Shire get run after that, but it
Speaker 3: just took a whole lot of time to get al
Speaker 3: Shire off the field. Yeah, where they came back from
Speaker 3: the break and he was still in the game, And
Speaker 3: I was just wondering, aside from breaking up the fight,
Speaker 3: why is it's such a difficult thing to remove the
Speaker 3: player from the stadium at that point because things still
Speaker 3: went on Brandon Shriff for him and him or drawing,
Speaker 3: and a lot of this is going while Trevor's lying
Speaker 3: motionless on the ground. It's just a real tough way
Speaker 3: to go about watching this football game. But yeah, you could,
Speaker 3: you could make all the excuses for Elshaw, you're there.
Speaker 3: It was just it was a very very unnecessary play
Speaker 3: and a dangerous one that we don't.
Speaker 1: Want, especially when you have a history of doing it.
Speaker 1: And yeah, when he left the field. Some of the
Speaker 1: Jaguars fans were let him know about it. We're throwing
Speaker 1: some things at him and it was ugly.
Speaker 3: Which is a circumstance. Do you make worse by having
Speaker 3: him stay on the field for that amount of time?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who knows what the game would have been
Speaker 1: like if Laurence stayed in there. It's worth noting they
Speaker 1: were struggling offensively, Both offenses were struggling when Trevor was
Speaker 1: out there. He was a little off in terms of
Speaker 1: his timing. I would say with his receivers. Had had
Speaker 1: one really nice throw that you were like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence type of throw, but also had some
Speaker 1: big misses in an interception on the drives he was
Speaker 1: out there. Doug Peterson said after the game that it's
Speaker 1: too early to determine whether he will be out for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, But the fact that that
Speaker 1: question is even being asked, he's playing through this shoulder injury.
Speaker 1: It'd be surprising to see him in the upcoming week.
Speaker 1: Certainly so. A big win for the Texans, but definitely
Speaker 1: marred on a day where, yeah, like I mentioned, CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud only had there was only one quick pressure for
Speaker 1: the Jaguars on the entire game, and I went back
Speaker 1: to make sure I was right about this. It was
Speaker 1: their very first play because I was like, man, that
Speaker 1: first play he got absolutely you know, smashed by Devin
Speaker 1: Lloyd and that was the one quick pressure and it
Speaker 1: was such a big hit. I almost felt like it
Speaker 1: affected Stroud for the rest of the day. He's not
Speaker 1: as comfortable right now in the pocket. He made a
Speaker 1: lot of really nice throws, and he made a lot
Speaker 1: of just rushed throws where he kind of sacked himself
Speaker 1: and it's just not the CJ. Stroud we are used
Speaker 1: to seeing. So, like I said, I hope a bye
Speaker 1: week can help him reset. Let's go to the NFC
Speaker 1: where the Rams and the Saints were playing in a
Speaker 1: game I dubbed kind of the give us one more
Speaker 1: week Bowl, Give us one more week where we feel relevant,
Speaker 1: whether it's the Rams or the Saints, who comes out
Speaker 1: on top.
Speaker 11: Dafford in the shotgun, eighth player of the drive in
Speaker 11: a fourteen all tie angle from the seven.
Speaker 6: They shoot it down the line right side. Pooka's got it.
Speaker 6: He finds his way in behind his blocks.
Speaker 9: Cooper Cup, Colby Parkinson, paving the way the paydirts touchdown,
Speaker 9: Puka Nakua touchdown, la oh jb.
Speaker 2: Long popping those peas. A little bit of a literation,
Speaker 2: a little.
Speaker 1: Bit of showing the listener a picture of the blocking
Speaker 1: that goes on. That's what makes the Rams special, what
Speaker 1: they have left that is special. On offense, they've been
Speaker 1: a little up and down. It is that blocking from
Speaker 1: the edge receivers and the tight ends they get out
Speaker 1: of New Orleans Rizzy Ball's dangerous.
Speaker 2: With a twenty one to fourteen victory.
Speaker 1: Saints had a six to nothing lead early in this game,
Speaker 1: and the Rams come out of halftime and like kind
Speaker 1: of theyve been doing a lot shook, have a big
Speaker 1: stretch of the game where it's just taken a while
Speaker 1: to crank it up, but then.
Speaker 2: They do, and usually it's Puka Nakua right in the
Speaker 2: middle of it.
Speaker 1: And that was a very Puka Akua heavy drive which
Speaker 1: eventually gave them the lead.
Speaker 2: That was with a little under nine minutes to go.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because of their scoring drives. They had
Speaker 4: an eleven play drive and they play drive. Then in
Speaker 4: between there there was a four play drive and ended
Speaker 4: with the DeMarcus Robinson touchdown catch. But otherwise, yeah, that's
Speaker 4: who this offense is. They're not like this overly explosive,
Speaker 4: big play passing game that you maybe would expect from
Speaker 4: a team with Cooper Cup and Pookinakua involved. But it's
Speaker 4: still better than the alternative, which is what we saw
Speaker 4: when they played Miami and what we've seen, you know,
Speaker 4: when they played the Eagles, which is like struggling to
Speaker 4: hit the throws that you expect Matt Stafford to throw.
Speaker 4: At this point, we can't pin him down. We really
Speaker 4: can't pin the Rams down unless Kyram Williams breaks one
Speaker 4: hundred yards on the ground, which is what he did
Speaker 4: today on fifteen attempt scores a touchdown. And you know
Speaker 4: it's funny because you say give us one more week,
Speaker 4: it's they give us one more week.
Speaker 1: Bowl.
Speaker 4: Well, Greg, they're six and six, they're right there.
Speaker 2: That's true.
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to win.
Speaker 2: But my logic with that was that is true.
Speaker 1: But my logic with that one was if they lose
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and likely fall two games back in
Speaker 1: the division, they're just not a team that we're taking seriously.
Speaker 5: Now.
Speaker 1: I thought they would win this game ultimately, because we
Speaker 1: kind of call them the best bad team maybe, or
Speaker 1: like they're a good bad team.
Speaker 2: They're at six and six.
Speaker 1: I do feel like I can peg them and they
Speaker 1: might change who they are, But to me, they are
Speaker 1: six and six team.
Speaker 2: They are who their record says they are.
Speaker 1: They have enough talent on both sides of the ball,
Speaker 1: then they can get it done against bad teams. And
Speaker 1: ultimately New Orleans is that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can do that. In a weird game script
Speaker 3: where it starts off and first of all, the Saints
Speaker 3: have lengthy possessions late in the second quarter and Matt
Speaker 3: Stafford has less than thirty passing yards. Wow, And Blake
Speaker 3: Corham is out carrying Karen Williams. And then you fast
Speaker 3: forward to the end of the game and they're electric
Speaker 3: in the second half and Kyra Williams goes fifteen carries
Speaker 3: over one hundred yards. I think averages nine yards to
Speaker 3: carry in this game, including the one that Ice is
Speaker 3: the game. Well, just I don't want to say that
Speaker 3: Ice the game because the rookie all everything edge rusher
Speaker 3: winds up Ice in the game. On defense, the Saints
Speaker 3: have a fourth and goal situation. Derek Carr holds onto
Speaker 3: the ball way too long, Jared Versus is able to
Speaker 3: get to him, knock the ball away Rams win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard from Jordan who was there at the game,
Speaker 1: you know, say he wanted to Jared Verse wanted to
Speaker 1: hold himself accountable. He told Jordan in the press there
Speaker 1: that after the game he ends up with seven pressures
Speaker 1: on this game and that was a big one. And
Speaker 1: apparently McVeigh said he was really impressed with versus attitude
Speaker 1: throughout the week, that he humbled himself after maybe feeling
Speaker 1: himself a little too much after you know, really getting
Speaker 1: it going. This is a young team, They've had ups
Speaker 1: and downs. Apparently players and coaches were very vocal in
Speaker 1: the locker room at halftime to just start running the
Speaker 1: damn ball, and they did and ultimately, you know, Stafford
Speaker 1: gets it going enough. They get to six and six
Speaker 1: and I'll miss Rizzy Ball. We still got the rest
Speaker 1: of the season shook. But if they had won this game,
Speaker 1: it's like they would have been kind of back in
Speaker 1: the NFC South race and they were not given one
Speaker 1: more week. One thing that'll stand out to me in
Speaker 1: this game is Taysom Hill left on the cart and
Speaker 1: the reaction of the fans. They're chanting Taysom Hill's name
Speaker 1: as he was helped off car. Derek Carr spoke afterwards
Speaker 1: and it was a little emotional just about that reaction
Speaker 1: that Taysom Hill got. So you feel for him and
Speaker 1: hopefully Taysom Hill, who we've seen is kind of the
Speaker 1: key to this offense. Weirdly, we hope he'll be better
Speaker 1: down the stretch.
Speaker 3: Decidedly before and after moments in this game, before the
Speaker 3: taste of injury and after the taste of injury because
Speaker 3: he's heavily involved in so many things that the Saints do,
Speaker 3: and really an emotional hit to the crowd and the
Speaker 3: team as well to see Taysom go down like that,
Speaker 3: and NFL Network and sider Ian Rappaport saying that still
Speaker 3: got the MRI coming up. But they fear that that's
Speaker 3: going to be it for number seven for the Saints
Speaker 3: this year.
Speaker 1: That would be a big letdown and a big subtraction
Speaker 1: just in terms of what a value add Taysom Hill
Speaker 1: has been for these Saints games. Kind of a lost
Speaker 1: season for the Saints now almost officially feels like they're
Speaker 1: out of it, although there's not a lot that's official,
Speaker 1: even after thirteen straight weeks. But there is one team,
Speaker 1: just one that's officially eliminated from playoff contention. And there
Speaker 1: is one team that officially punched their ticket to the playoffs.
Speaker 1: That actually happened on Friday. Let's go to Arrowhead. This
Speaker 1: has got to be either on the sideline or quick
Speaker 1: till they.
Speaker 2: Still the tonal wasn't ready, the balls on the.
Speaker 6: Turf, and the jaw fuckball black. Now please be a
Speaker 6: full start. Otherwise this game is over.
Speaker 3: I think it's ball. Yeah, Chris Chounson song breaker. A
Speaker 3: little shift on the offense, put it his decline.
Speaker 6: It seems good to put the backers pass and take
Speaker 6: over face down.
Speaker 3: How is a heartbreaker?
Speaker 17: In a season full of prep punch losses, this is
Speaker 17: the most heartbreaker. Oh my goodness, you feel for the Raiders.
Speaker 1: Macon Crosby and Aidan O'Connell and even Jason Horowitz and
Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy there in the booth for a k R
Speaker 1: l V. The Raiders fumble a chance on a bad
Speaker 1: snap in field goal range in Arrowhead as time was
Speaker 1: ticking down. Thought they played well enough to win. Nayden
Speaker 1: in O'Connell throws for three hundred and forty yards. The
Speaker 1: Raiders defense gets them the ball back a couple times late,
Speaker 1: as the Raiders can't finish off those offensive drives. But
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the first team into the playoffs in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, get the win nineteen to seventeen. It
Speaker 1: feels like every week, Nick, the Chiefs win and they
Speaker 1: look worse doing it, and the vibes and like the
Speaker 1: conversation afterwards are almost probably more frustrating for Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: and Chiefs players. It really is starting to give you
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Eagles vibes. I don't think it's like that,
Speaker 1: but the way these wins keep getting worse and worse,
Speaker 1: they really were outplayed. The Raiders put up over four
Speaker 1: hundred yards of them and easily outgain them on the day,
Speaker 1: but ultimately the Chiefs get the win.
Speaker 4: I pushed back on that a little bit. The Raiders
Speaker 4: on the scoreboard were non existed until the third quarter
Speaker 4: when Brock Bauers made that phenomenal catch for a touchdown
Speaker 4: pass a reception to make it sixteen to ten, and
Speaker 4: then you had Trey Tucker in motion around the end
Speaker 4: for a fifty eight yard touchdown. Pass and suddenly they're
Speaker 4: in the lead. Because before that, this is one of
Speaker 4: those rare moments since I've been remote over the last
Speaker 4: five years, where I felt like I was sitting in
Speaker 4: the newsroom with Patrick again watching the games like it's
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen again, because he and I are both, you know,
Speaker 4: sending each other messages on social media about how aid
Speaker 4: and O'Connell refuses to scramble, and I'm just sitting there, going,
Speaker 4: he's got room to run, he's throwing the ball really well,
Speaker 4: and yet they're getting nothing out of it. They get
Speaker 4: a turnover on downs in Chiefs territory. They just a
Speaker 4: bunch of missed opportunities, really, and then suddenly they explode
Speaker 4: and they have the lead. But it felt that whole
Speaker 4: time like, well, that's not going to last. And then
Speaker 4: the Chiefs get an opportunity and they have to settle
Speaker 4: for a field goal, which goes back to what they've
Speaker 4: been all year. Their red zone offense, by the way,
Speaker 4: guys really really concerning, like it seems to get worse
Speaker 4: every week just with the rest of their performances, and
Speaker 4: yet they're eleven and one cause they still get the
Speaker 4: job done. DeAndre Hopkins dropped the pass on third down
Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes made a heroic play. He gets out
Speaker 4: of a Max Crosby sack, he escapes, he's falling forward
Speaker 4: and throws into a wide open Hopkins. He drops it
Speaker 4: over the middle. They missed Xavier Worthy on a third
Speaker 4: down call where they tried to throw it over a
Speaker 4: defense that was very much prepared for the run. They
Speaker 4: did a lot of things to lose this game, but
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like the Raiders necessarily were in a
Speaker 4: position that they could say, hey, we outplayed you. We
Speaker 4: outplayed you for about twelve minutes in the second half,
Speaker 4: and we were in position to win. But then again,
Speaker 4: we are the Raiders, And that last play really drove
Speaker 4: me up a wall because they break the huddle with
Speaker 4: like six seconds on the play clock. Of course there's
Speaker 4: going to be operational confusion. Of course, that snap's going
Speaker 4: to happen early, and it points to the lack of
Speaker 4: experience for Aidan O'Connell and a rookie and center Jackson
Speaker 4: Powers Johnson just a tough scene for them.
Speaker 3: With the turner contingency up upstairs getting the play in
Speaker 3: perhaps a touch second late for the Raiders, but my
Speaker 3: Chiefs quest. It's not twenty twenty three Eagles in the
Speaker 3: sense that you know there's blown coverages and weird stuff
Speaker 3: going on in the secondary. They give it up a
Speaker 3: ton of points in December Sincere McCormick, who I literally
Speaker 3: just had to google again just now to remember his
Speaker 3: first name, had five point three yards per carry. Yeah, eight,
Speaker 3: and O'Connell throws for three forty. We saw the Bills
Speaker 3: score thirty Bryce and the Panthers almost did it. And
Speaker 3: then until he took the lid off the rim there
Speaker 3: shook because we're tracking eight to O'Connell's scramble yards, which
Speaker 3: he has none in his career. He had a scramble
Speaker 3: that got called back for a hold in this game,
Speaker 3: so he still hasn't done it. But after that he
Speaker 3: was unlocked and he was unconscious the rest of the
Speaker 3: game because he hits the touchdown there, hits the touchdown
Speaker 3: to Bowers. He finishes with those two touchdowns twenty three
Speaker 3: to thirty five. The Chiefs defense has a problem right.
Speaker 1: Now, Greg, Yeah, they do the secondary. I think got
Speaker 1: worse by putting McDuffie on the outside. He's a good
Speaker 1: outside corner, but he's not a special outside corner. He
Speaker 1: was special on the inside. That made the inside position
Speaker 1: worse where they're really struggling. The other out side position
Speaker 1: is getting torched. Some of it in this game was
Speaker 1: brock Bauers just being special, but he's beating their cornerbacks.
Speaker 1: He goes for ten for one forty. Jacobe Myers had
Speaker 1: a strong game. Started out really well in this game,
Speaker 1: especially in the first half. Tucker had that fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard catch and so, okay, that's one thing that's a problem.
Speaker 1: I saw the line of scrimmage, as you mentioned, getting
Speaker 1: pushed back against the worst running team in the league.
Speaker 1: Although they have been better offensively overall since the Turnie
Speaker 1: took over, they really have turned this thing around.
Speaker 3: Job.
Speaker 1: And then the only reason I said they deserve to
Speaker 1: win is because in the key part of the game,
Speaker 1: after those two quick touchdowns, it's fourth quarter, you know,
Speaker 1: you bow up in the red zone to force a
Speaker 1: field goal by the Chiefs, who keep struggling in the
Speaker 1: red zone. You're down by a couple points and the
Speaker 1: Raiders do get back in field goal range. Carlson misses one.
Speaker 1: It's one of three misses on the date. They were
Speaker 1: all really long in cold weather. So it's not the
Speaker 1: field goals that you want, and so you give the
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense some credit there, but the Chiefs all to
Speaker 1: go two and out, I mean three and out twice
Speaker 1: in that sequence where a couple first downs win the game,
Speaker 1: and they just can't do it. And I'm glad you
Speaker 1: mentioned that d Hop drop because I just haven't seen
Speaker 1: Mahomes so frustrated. He was so frustrated about Awanya Morris penalty.
Speaker 1: That's another problem that's happening. A lot of pressure, four
Speaker 1: sacks against the Raiders, a lot of pressure a week ago.
Speaker 1: And that sequence was crazy to me because Mahomes made
Speaker 1: two magical plays. One is under extreme pressure that he
Speaker 1: dumps off to Kareem Hunt and they end up losing
Speaker 1: five yards because his offensive line stinks, but he's magical.
Speaker 1: And then the next play, same thing, the offensive lion stinks,
Speaker 1: he's magical, and it's a drop and you could just
Speaker 1: really see the frustration setting in a little bit. They
Speaker 1: did get some good news, nick back that Hollywood Brown
Speaker 1: is trending towards a week sixteen or week seventeen return,
Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport, So that's awesome and they can absolutely,
Speaker 1: you know, play better, but they're not playing well and
Speaker 1: they're lucky to have the number one seed right now.
Speaker 4: So last year, everybody's talked about this ad nauseam. Andy
Speaker 4: Reid mentioned it after they won the Super Bowl. The
Speaker 4: loss to the Chiefs or to the Raiders, excuse me
Speaker 4: on Christmas was the moment they needed to wake up.
Speaker 4: It was the moment where they realized, Okay, we got
Speaker 4: to be better, We're gonna be tougher, and they went
Speaker 4: on the run they win the Super Bowl. I kind
Speaker 4: of got that same feeling in this game, but not
Speaker 4: for the same reasons, mainly because suddenly they were like
Speaker 4: the Raiders were applying pressure. It's almost as if they
Speaker 4: were shocked that the Raiders were suddenly in the lead,
Speaker 4: and they were. At one point they showed somebody in
Speaker 4: the siland I don't know if it was Wanny Morris
Speaker 4: or somebody else that just said wake the f up,
Speaker 4: like shouting in his teammates on the sideline, like, hey, yeah,
Speaker 4: we're the Chiefs. We've won back to back Super Bowls,
Speaker 4: but just because we put these uniforms on doesn't mean
Speaker 4: we're just gonna go win. Wake up now. So I
Speaker 4: wonder if this is gonna be the wake up call
Speaker 4: for them over the next five weeks going into the
Speaker 4: playoffs or not, because there are so many other problems
Speaker 4: that you guys just described and explained that I don't
Speaker 4: think it fixed quickly. But then again, it's the Chiefs,
Speaker 4: and all I've been taught over the last two years
Speaker 4: and really over the last four or five years is
Speaker 4: that they're gonna be there. So until they're not, I
Speaker 4: won't believe otherwise. I just I need to see more
Speaker 4: a greater sense of urgency from them than.
Speaker 1: I right, But I kind of thought like the being
Speaker 1: a two point conversion away against a really banged that
Speaker 1: Bucks team was the wake up call. And then the
Speaker 1: Broncos game where they're trailing and need a block kick
Speaker 1: that's Is that a wake up call?
Speaker 2: How about when you lose by nine to the Bills?
Speaker 2: Is that a wake up call?
Speaker 1: You go, you get at the end of the Panthers
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is a stream games where they're
Speaker 1: not playing their best, but we know that they can
Speaker 1: turn around. I just think right now it's absolutely fair
Speaker 1: to say that they're not playing at a super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning level.
Speaker 3: That's all I just get concerned with the idea of
Speaker 3: turning it around when the players that you need to
Speaker 3: turn it around are are Wanya Morris right like yeah,
Speaker 3: and Joshua Williams like I'm my concerns aren't Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 3: and Chris JOm or guys and Travis Kelsey that have
Speaker 3: won all these Super Bowls and do the things that
Speaker 3: we count on them to do. It's it's the guys
Speaker 3: that we haven't necessarily seen executed at a high level,
Speaker 3: and with so much turnover, especially at the tackle position
Speaker 3: throughout Patrick Mahomes's career. I just wonder why so hard
Speaker 3: to be cheap at this position with this quarterback. It
Speaker 3: just it seems counterproductive and it's a thing that has
Speaker 3: been going for way too long.
Speaker 4: Because they've gotten away with it.
Speaker 1: That's why, well, you know, it's a high It's one
Speaker 1: of the highest paid offensive lines in the league, including
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor who's at right tackle and is almost as
Speaker 1: big a problem as Morris Morrison, Sue Matteo where Day
Speaker 1: two picks, it's not I mean, those are real investments.
Speaker 2: It just they haven't worked.
Speaker 1: My issue is more that they're trying to plug a
Speaker 1: lot of different holes the defensive backfield. Now the run
Speaker 1: defenses is struggling the tackles and I think team speed
Speaker 1: that said Pacheco gets back in this game gives them
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice. I think they'll trust them
Speaker 1: to have more and more work. Hollywood. Brown's coming back.
Speaker 1: We don't need to panic either. They have they have
Speaker 1: some interesting games down the stretch. No, they're not playing
Speaker 1: any other superpowers, but they do have the Chargers and
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Steelers down the stretch in their
Speaker 1: final five games, so they will be tested. Now, since
Speaker 1: we last talked, there's been a coaching change, and I
Speaker 1: guess we could have guessed done this if you listen
Speaker 1: to my recap with Will Gavin late on Thanksgiving night.
Speaker 1: We wondered if Matt Iberflus would make it, and he
Speaker 1: went and had a press conference the next day, so
Speaker 1: we thought he made it, and then he didn't make it.
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown will be the interim head coach of the Bears.
Speaker 1: Not often we talk about a coach being fired on
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night recap. That happened a day before Nick,
Speaker 1: a couple days before Nick, but the timing of it
Speaker 1: was a first in Chicago Bears history, it's one of
Speaker 1: the most interesting jobs that's going to be open because
Speaker 1: of Caleb Williams. And it just felt like from all
Speaker 1: the reporting there in Detroit that the situation between the
Speaker 1: players and Ibra Flus and their frustration probably made it
Speaker 1: untenable where Ryan Poles or whoever really made this decision
Speaker 1: had no other choice but to make a change for
Speaker 1: the last five weeks.
Speaker 4: And it was the fashion which they lost that game
Speaker 4: on Thanksgiving that really I think was the final straw
Speaker 4: for them to essentially make him walk the plank before
Speaker 4: getting rid of him, which is what they did on Friday.
Speaker 4: And now, you know, my friend at Fox Sports, Car Vitally,
Speaker 4: I thought, summarized it very well, which is that, you know,
Speaker 4: the Bears broke trend by you know, they broke the
Speaker 4: standard by firing coach in season for the first time
Speaker 4: in their one hundred and five year history as a franchise.
Speaker 4: And they're gonna have to continue to break trends in
Speaker 4: order to get to where they want to go. They
Speaker 4: have to continue to operating in a fashion that they
Speaker 4: haven't over the last I don't know, ten, fifteen, twenty,
Speaker 4: twenty five years. And maybe this is the first step.
Speaker 15: You know.
Speaker 4: Caleb talked about this last week about how you know,
Speaker 4: if he had Thomas Brown as a zo set the
Speaker 4: whole year, where could they have been Because you know,
Speaker 4: the familiarity, the reps and everything that you get in
Speaker 4: training camp and early in the season and just the
Speaker 4: time spent together. You can't get that back when you
Speaker 4: make a change in season, and you've seen them take
Speaker 4: that jump. So I think we knew this was going
Speaker 4: to happen eventually. The fact that it happened in the
Speaker 4: season doesn't really make a big difference for me. If anything,
Speaker 4: it buys you extra time to start searching the coaching market.
Speaker 4: You try out Thomas Brown in this job, you figure
Speaker 4: out where you want to go from here and make
Speaker 4: the best of this season. It could have been worse.
Speaker 4: You could have waited, I guess, until the end of
Speaker 4: the season and not gotten that head start. But we
Speaker 4: knew this was inevitable based on how they were playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the Flues. The season of Flu's
Speaker 1: glow up. It was fun while it lasted. Yeah, Ultimately,
Speaker 1: the fashion of it, all, the hair, the beard of
Speaker 1: all of it.
Speaker 3: It didn't necessarily mean anything, but it gave us something
Speaker 3: to be excited about and the idea that hey, this
Speaker 3: is going to be something different. But No. Five and
Speaker 3: nineteen during his run as the Chicago Bears head coach
Speaker 3: in one score games, and really it wasn't just the
Speaker 3: way that it happened. It was the timeout and the
Speaker 3: not calling the timeout, the fact that he finishes his
Speaker 3: career without that final timeout going out there, and it
Speaker 3: seemed like between the quarterback, the coach, the play caller,
Speaker 3: the players standing next to him during that process, nobody
Speaker 3: knew what was going on, like the facilitation of how
Speaker 3: things are supposed to operate from everything from the offseason
Speaker 3: and being able to evaluate Shane Waldron as a play caller.
Speaker 3: Decisions were always made too late, and Matt Eberflues finally
Speaker 3: just ran.
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really had an idea of
Speaker 1: how to make the offense and coach up offense. And
Speaker 1: you feel bad because like, yeah, I listened to Chris
Speaker 1: Long talk about this too, and I thought he was
Speaker 1: even handed talking about the Caleb Williams part of it too.
Speaker 2: And it's like, it does suck if.
Speaker 1: Your career if your Matt eberfluse ends that way, and
Speaker 1: It's going to be remembered forever. And Caleb Williams needs
Speaker 1: to know not to be changing plays with sixteen seconds left.
Speaker 1: It's like an out, like he will never do that
Speaker 1: again in his career. But you could also point to
Speaker 1: that being like partly on the coaching that but no
Speaker 1: one was ready for that moment, most most importantly, Matty
Speaker 1: Refluse was never ready for those moments, no matter who
Speaker 1: was the quarterback.
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks head just got bounced off the ground. He's
Speaker 3: getting a play call in his ear. He's trying to
Speaker 3: get guys with ten seconds to go. Players besides Matt
Speaker 3: Eberflus or jumping up and down screaming. Four seconds elapse
Speaker 3: after that before the ball gets snapped. During any one
Speaker 3: of those four seconds, he could have called time out.
Speaker 3: He chills not to.
Speaker 1: It's such a brutal way for a coaching career to
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if Ryan Poles will be making the
Speaker 1: next head coach hiring. The idea is he probably will.
Speaker 1: I asked around about this. People don't think he has
Speaker 1: any chance that he would be gone. It's murky of
Speaker 1: how much was Eberflus his decision to hire or not.
Speaker 1: You know he was hired before him, but in the
Speaker 1: same you know, round of cycles, and maybe he got
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of okay, rubber stamp that hiring,
Speaker 1: but maybe it wasn't really his guy. There was pretty
Speaker 1: reliable reporting that he stood on the table and said
Speaker 1: he believed Matt Eberflus was the man to do it
Speaker 1: coming back this year. And I think there is a
Speaker 1: there is a case to be made that's a fireable
Speaker 1: offense and that you're we're redoing this whole cycle where
Speaker 1: the coach and the GM and the quarterback are not aligned.
Speaker 1: That just keeps happening over and over and over in Chicago.
Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna let Ryan Poles stay, let
Speaker 1: him truly choose the coach. Don't don't be getting yourself
Speaker 1: involved that much on an ownership level. Let Ryan Poles
Speaker 1: do it, because if it ends up being the ownership coach,
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be firing Ryan Poles in a year
Speaker 1: or two and we're just gonna like and the coach
Speaker 1: will still be there, and we're just gonna keep doing
Speaker 1: this thing over and over and over again. It's happened
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. It's an organizational thing. You can see
Speaker 1: certain organizations make the same mistakes over and over, and
Speaker 1: that's what worries me, even though Poles has had a
Speaker 1: solid track record and obviously had had the trade that
Speaker 1: got him Caleb Williams, I don't know. I just just
Speaker 1: just let let the GM do his job. That's gonna
Speaker 1: be it for the Patrick Claybond portion of the program,
Speaker 1: always one of my favorite portions of the program, the
Speaker 1: biggest portion of the program.
Speaker 3: In terms of size. Yes, I guess they'll wait here
Speaker 3: on the Chris.
Speaker 2: Was it importance in importance?
Speaker 1: Frankly, if we're only talking two segments and I had
Speaker 1: to lose either the whole thing before Sunday Night Football
Speaker 1: or Sunday, I will lose Sunday Night Football. But I
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk a little Sunday Night Football with
Speaker 1: Nick Showca you guys enjoy that.
Speaker 2: We will all right to Sunday Night.
Speaker 6: First and goal from the.
Speaker 16: Seven, Alan under center takes a snab quick hitter thrown.
Speaker 4: Behind, but somehow caught and now lateral to Alan and
Speaker 4: reaching for the pylon.
Speaker 11: Are you kidding me?
Speaker 6: It's a touchdown? Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: A catch by Amari Cooper, a lateral to Josh Allen
Speaker 1: and he rubs the remaining five.
Speaker 6: Yards for the score. Have you ever seen that one before?
Speaker 1: I have not. Chris Brown of w GR in Buffalo
Speaker 1: Josh Allen with a receiving touchdown and a passing touchdown
Speaker 1: on the very same play he had in a rushing
Speaker 1: touchdown later in the second half. To complete the trifecta.
Speaker 1: He goes over one hundred yards on the ground. No
Speaker 1: one is playing better football right now at quarterback than
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Thirty five to ten, the Bills pulverize the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in the snow.
Speaker 2: They are built for it. Shookye.
Speaker 1: I mean a guy who can pass, a guy who
Speaker 1: can catch, although it was a lateral, A guy who
Speaker 1: can get engaged to a Hollywood starlet during his bye
Speaker 1: week and then show up and be the hero on
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football.
Speaker 2: I mean, what can't this man do?
Speaker 4: My guy's just winning in every facet, in every single way.
Speaker 4: Passing touchdown, rushing touchdown, receiving touchdown, it all. He's just winning.
Speaker 4: And the Bills are just winning. They're ten and two.
Speaker 4: Now they take down the forty nine ers with the
Speaker 4: ultimate home field advantage of incredible amounts of snow in
Speaker 4: western New York and just how that's like kind of
Speaker 4: a neutralizer on the field, except for people like Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: who are he is essentially a legitimate like buck, like
Speaker 4: he's a deer running out there, so he's built for
Speaker 4: the snow and to make plays like that. A lopsided
Speaker 4: victory for them kind of could have anticipated before the
Speaker 4: snow got involved. Now you just see the difference between
Speaker 4: these two teams, one team heading up, the other one
Speaker 4: heading down, and that play, I'll tell you what you said,
Speaker 4: you've never seen it before. I think Marcus Mariota once
Speaker 4: did that off a deflective pass one time.
Speaker 1: That's a little different, though a little different, you know,
Speaker 1: that's the deflection. I just didn't know the ruling that
Speaker 1: you get credit for receiving touchdown after getting the lateral.
Speaker 1: And the still shot of Alan flying through the air
Speaker 1: with the snow, it is just beautiful. And I know
Speaker 1: the people who say, I just want football to be
Speaker 1: played at its highest level, and ultimately the snow is
Speaker 1: kind of a distraction and it prevents to, you know,
Speaker 1: people from playing their best. I kind of get that
Speaker 1: in the biggest of spots, but I like variety shook
Speaker 1: in life, So go in these games. It's not gonna
Speaker 1: be every single game, but sprinkle it in. Occasionally you
Speaker 1: find a team like the forty nine ers who just
Speaker 1: are not ready for it. They came out of the
Speaker 1: gates looking ready for it, but they were slipping inside
Speaker 1: and all over the place. Three huge fumbles in this
Speaker 1: in the game, brock Purty, not a snow guy game.
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and this Bill's running attack definitely snow guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy because party definitely played some nasty
Speaker 4: weather games at Ames, you know, Iowa when he was
Speaker 4: there in state back then, god knows he was there forever,
Speaker 4: he had to have played at least one bad weather game.
Speaker 4: But it is That's that's essentially what this is is.
Speaker 4: You know, this is why I think that football, you know,
Speaker 4: you talk about being played at the highest level. I
Speaker 4: think that it's not just for variety. This is football
Speaker 4: in its purest form. That shot of Josh Allen diving
Speaker 4: with the snow all around him, and there's a guy
Speaker 4: in an NFL beanie looks like he's part of the
Speaker 4: like the ball Boys or something, just staring intently watching
Speaker 4: magic happen before his eyes. That is football. How can
Speaker 4: you not fall in love with that? That's fantastic. That's
Speaker 4: gonna be framed in Canton. I'm gonna go to Canton
Speaker 4: this summer. It's gonna be on a frame somewhere. He's
Speaker 4: gonna be on and it should be because that's football
Speaker 4: at its core.
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is the forty nine ers actually
Speaker 1: ran the ball quite well in this game. Christian McCaffrey
Speaker 1: leaves with a knee injury. Kyle Shanahan announces after the
Speaker 1: game that it's a potentially season ending knee injury. Really
Speaker 1: disappointing for McCaffrey and really disappointing obviously for the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers, who get Perty back but did not have
Speaker 1: Bosa back or missing five starters on defense, we're missing
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, and yet they actually ran seven point six
Speaker 1: yards per carry when they gave it to McCaffrey. Jordan
Speaker 1: Mason had a number of positive runs early in this game,
Speaker 1: ends up thirteen for seventy eight. Their success rate is
Speaker 1: really high, and they're setting up for a field goal
Speaker 1: to make it seven to six about midway through the
Speaker 1: second quarter, and they're moving the ball and it seems
Speaker 1: like a normal football game. They missed the kick and
Speaker 1: the very next play Cook takes it. What it was
Speaker 1: sixty five yards for a touchdown. And after that it
Speaker 1: was just as one sided as it gets. And you
Speaker 1: just think, if Josh Allen and the Bills are hosting
Speaker 1: games in the snow or in tough weather, he really
Speaker 1: is built for it.
Speaker 2: Now, they didn't try to throw the ball too much.
Speaker 1: He only threw it seventeen times, but he ripped a
Speaker 1: couple passes right through the air, whereas Purdy like guys
Speaker 1: were slipping. He had a couple decent throws, but you know,
Speaker 1: Deebo's falling over all over the place and fumbles it.
Speaker 1: Purty fumbles it because he can't hold on to it.
Speaker 1: He throws the ball eighteen times for ninety four yards.
Speaker 1: Any penetration by defense happened by Buffalo in this game.
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was much better, and they're just they're
Speaker 1: just a tough team. And it's one reason why I
Speaker 1: think they have a real chance to win the Super
Speaker 1: Bowl this year and make my prediction look good. It's
Speaker 1: because every aspect of the game they can excel in,
Speaker 1: whether that's running, passing, run, defense, or pass defense, and
Speaker 1: depending on the week, they can do different things. And
Speaker 1: they've just been through so many wars that games like
Speaker 1: this it's like no problem for them. They are the
Speaker 1: AFC East champions here with five weeks left of the season.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Week thirteen clinchers. It's been a long time since
Speaker 4: that's happened that quickly. But that's also goes to show
Speaker 4: what the AFCAS East is. The Bills are the superior team,
Speaker 4: way more superior than any of us. He anticipated them
Speaker 4: being this year. Yeah, that's who they are. But it
Speaker 4: makes me think about two things. I think back to
Speaker 4: when the Bengals beat the Bills in the playoffs a
Speaker 4: few years ago in a snowy game, and Bills fans
Speaker 4: complained about the snow neutralizing their pass rush, and that's
Speaker 4: why the Bengals were able to beat them. That's the
Speaker 4: beauty of a snow game is that it neutralized the
Speaker 4: pass rush. You look at the pressure right here. Five
Speaker 4: pressures for the nine Ers, seven pressures for the Bills.
Speaker 4: There's a clip of Josh Allen, i think in the
Speaker 4: third and fourth quarter dropping back and he's got all
Speaker 4: day to throw and just rips one right down the
Speaker 4: middle of the field for a completion inside the red zone,
Speaker 4: and I was like blown away by the fact that
Speaker 4: he just could stand there and just pat and bounce
Speaker 4: and patent bounce until he found somebody. Just because of
Speaker 4: the snow. It's also because of this offensive line, which
Speaker 4: is getting better and is coming around. But it also
Speaker 4: speaks to their evolution as an offense since Joe Brady
Speaker 4: took over last year, which is that they figured out
Speaker 4: how to run the ball traditionally. Instead of just relying
Speaker 4: on Josh Allen as the only runner on the field,
Speaker 4: they can now lean on James Cook fourteen for one
Speaker 4: oh seven, Ray Davis eleven for sixty three. Each of
Speaker 4: them had a touchdown. Josh Allen Chipson three for eighteen.
Speaker 4: He has a touchdown. This is a team that you
Speaker 4: just said can beat you in a number of different ways.
Speaker 4: This is the way that they can win in a
Speaker 4: snow game at home of the playoffs, and they get it.
Speaker 4: And right now they're in one of the prime positions
Speaker 4: to get the AFC's top seed, or at least be
Speaker 4: in contention for it. So everything's coming up bills right now.
Speaker 1: It is a team that I look forward to watching
Speaker 1: I don't know if they technically deserve to be AFC
Speaker 1: East champions. I'm just gonna have like a little point
Speaker 1: of order. How can they be deemed AFC East champions
Speaker 1: if they've never even played against Drake May I mean, oh,
Speaker 1: just well, I feel like they got two more games
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Everyone's saying the Bills have an easy
Speaker 1: schedule down in the stretch. They actually haven't played the Patriots.
Speaker 1: How can you be the division champ if you haven't
Speaker 1: even played the Patriots.
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna get that twice here on the stretch,
Speaker 4: and I expect them to win both games.
Speaker 1: It can't go any worse than it did at the
Speaker 1: end of the Belichick era, even when they were making
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They literally didn't get a stop back then.
Speaker 1: This team is absolutely awesome. I can't believe. A thing
Speaker 1: that actually happened in Buffalo tonight was Josh Allen and
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot doing snow angels on the field after the
Speaker 1: game together. That's that's what you know things are going
Speaker 1: well for the Bills. Fun week, fun game, Yes, over,
Speaker 1: I believe twenty inches of snow around the stadium. It
Speaker 1: was up to three feet in some areas of Buffalo,
Speaker 1: and yeah, a couple inches were happening. A lot of
Speaker 1: the fans at the game were just standing the whole
Speaker 1: time because they couldn't sit down. Very cool, and at
Speaker 1: this point it's not you can't even say long tortured
Speaker 1: Bills fans.
Speaker 2: We got Eric Roberts back here. Who's you know, a
Speaker 2: fan of a Dodgers.
Speaker 1: Winning the Super Bowl and he's been rooting for one
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the NFL.
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about tortured. You guys have
Speaker 2: been good.
Speaker 18: I was a seven or years tortured. You thought you
Speaker 18: gotta be talking about like my niece and they only
Speaker 18: know Josh Allen. I was out the Nathan Peterman five
Speaker 18: or seven. Come, I've been around for the next generation
Speaker 18: of Bills fans. You can say, because all I'm.
Speaker 1: Saying is this is an extended, beautiful run of success
Speaker 1: and then should only continue. But I do know that
Speaker 1: until you make the Super Bowl, win a Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: it feels like something is missing. But these are the
Speaker 1: good old days, is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: So enjoy it. Oh, I am, trust me, I am,
Speaker 2: and I am as well. This was a beautiful show. Choky.
Speaker 1: I want to get you back to everything that's going
Speaker 1: on in Cincinnati. Celebrate your calves victory. Get ready for
Speaker 1: Monday night football, because we're talking about your Brownie is
Speaker 1: in a big spot once again. I mean, I'm fine
Speaker 1: with the Browns being in primetime compared to these forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers games. Are there any coming up that we
Speaker 1: need to get out? Week seventeen, they're playing the Lions.
Speaker 1: They're not going to flex them out of that. We
Speaker 1: got Week fifteen against the Rams. It's crazy how done
Speaker 1: this forty nine Ers team feels because of the injuries.
Speaker 1: It's the first time since two thousand and fifteen that
Speaker 1: they've lost twenty five by twenty five points and back
Speaker 1: to back weeks, only the fourth time in the history
Speaker 1: of this proud franchise that's ever happened. And they do
Speaker 1: not feel like they are coming back from this down
Speaker 1: two games and the injuries are are just too much.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're mounting. Just the hits keep coming. Soon as
Speaker 4: you get one guy back, you lose another, you lose another,
Speaker 4: you lose another. I mean, it's it's too steep of
Speaker 4: a hill to climb. And ill An NFC West is
Speaker 4: still very much for the taking, but they don't feel
Speaker 4: like a team that's on the rise. And it's unfortunate
Speaker 4: for a team that made the Super Bowl and lost
Speaker 4: in heartbreaking fashion overtime last year, but that's just the
Speaker 4: fact of the matter with them.
Speaker 10: No.
Speaker 1: I saw the Bears on the schedule next week and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, that's a good spot. But it's a
Speaker 1: good SIoT for both teams. So that's it for our
Speaker 1: recap show Week thirteen in the books. As I said,
Speaker 1: shooky and I will be back on Monday night. Talk
Speaker 1: a little Browns talk, a little Broncos talk, a little
Speaker 1: news of the day. I want to thank everyone that
Speaker 1: helped out the Thanksgiving week, a lot of extra hours.
Speaker 1: Eric behind the glass, Chris doing a bang up job.
Speaker 1: When when Josh Allen is going snow Beast, snow Angels,
Speaker 1: you know football is back.