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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we already got our Christmas

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Speaker 1: tree up. I'm Greg Rosenthal here in the Chris Westling

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Speaker 1: podcast studio with my friend Patrick Clayback my other friend

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Speaker 1: Nick Schuk, joining live from Cleveland where past Thanksgiving football

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Speaker 1: is officially started and Patrick's looking around for the Christmas

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Speaker 1: tree here. I know, I'm talking about.

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Speaker 2: My house for the first time ever.

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Speaker 1: I got it up like the day after Thanksgiving, and

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Speaker 1: I'm feeling proud. You You cook Thanksgiving dinner. You're a

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Speaker 1: real man before even coming into work.

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Speaker 3: Pat Well, I mean, the objective, you know, is to

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Speaker 3: get it done, and we were able to get Thanksgiving done,

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Speaker 3: get into work, do some football, and also Greg, go

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Speaker 3: get a tree, although we didn't do it the next

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Speaker 3: day because yeah, but we did get out there on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Trees up. It'll be dead before Christmas, but hey, we're here.

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Speaker 1: Also went yeah, official a real tree for the first

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Speaker 1: time too.

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Speaker 2: We've got fake forever.

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Speaker 1: So we did. We did the whole thing, U Shookie.

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Speaker 1: We're waiting for him to get on the line here.

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Speaker 1: I have a suspicion he was watching the end of

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Speaker 1: the Calves Celtics game. But I'm not gonna hold that

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Speaker 1: against you, Nick for the rest of this show. We

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Speaker 1: got we got games to go to.

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Speaker 4: Actually, I checked the score and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 4: Cavlin chappin.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I thought you just wanted to stick it to me.

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Speaker 1: You got one win today. Let's see if Patrick's team

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Speaker 1: got their win. In one of the most important games

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Speaker 1: of the year, two of the best teams in the

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Speaker 1: NFL head to Baltimore.

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Speaker 5: Purston Town Eagles. Paul Look the twenty five with the

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Speaker 5: revuls clock ticking Perch, but Barkley was left parts this

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Speaker 5: time to Barkley off the right side.

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Speaker 6: Prince the tackle.

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Speaker 2: He's at the first five touchdown, say.

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Speaker 1: Barklay, he is special Mike Quick. That's also Merril Reese

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Speaker 1: on the call WIP. The Eagles win the game twenty

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Speaker 1: four to nineteen in Baltimore, helped by a drive that

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Speaker 1: was all Saquon Barkley. A couple runs for Saquon Barkley

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Speaker 1: passed the Saquon Barkley a jail it hurts run where

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Speaker 1: the faked giving the ball to Saquon Barkley, and then yes,

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley finishes it off. The Eagles have won eight

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Speaker 1: straight games they are ten and two.

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Speaker 2: The Ravens are eight and five.

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Speaker 1: Saquon Barkley in the fourth quarter of games this year,

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Speaker 1: seven point four yards per carry. That's pretty good, leads

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Speaker 1: the NFL and yards in the fourth quarter. Not a

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Speaker 1: surprise there, Patrick, when they got that ball back after

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Speaker 1: yet another Justin Tucker missed, it did feel like Saquon time.

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Speaker 1: It's been the most reliable really aspect to any offense

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Speaker 3: And the Baltimore Ravens had been able to hold them

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Speaker 3: to a couple three and outs in the second half

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Speaker 3: before that drive started. The Philadelphia Eagles had three three

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Speaker 3: yards in the second half. Wow against the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 3: They actually get a third down they Brandon Stevens can't

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Speaker 3: quite get Dallas Goddard on a crosser, and from then

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Speaker 3: it was essentially over. The Eagles kept getting yards and chunks,

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Speaker 3: and the Eagles doing this with Johan dark Dotson out

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Speaker 3: in the pattern where Devontae Smith would generally be. The

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Speaker 3: Eagles able to use their talent to get past the

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Speaker 3: Baltimore on the road in this game without one of

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Speaker 3: their top five players in Devonte Smith. Quinya Mitchell leaves

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Speaker 3: this game, it's just a sign. As much as I

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Speaker 3: would love to make this about the Ravens and Justin

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Speaker 3: that is very very high.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get to the Ravens side and Tucker nick,

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Speaker 1: but I don't need to see anymore. This Eagles defense

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Speaker 1: is playing the best in the entire league. Their defense,

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Speaker 1: I mean, every week it's something, and today they just

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Speaker 1: made everything hard. It felt like the only played Baltimore

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they did a good job of containing the run.

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Speaker 4: They did a good job of keeping Lamar contained in

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Speaker 4: the pocket for the most part. I mean, thirty nine

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Speaker 4: I mean, it was an excellent job. But really, what

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Speaker 4: it has been is the Eagles defense doing a great

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Speaker 4: They've done this over the last three weeks. They did

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Speaker 4: keep getting stops defensively. Same thing happens today. They go

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Speaker 4: up fourteen to nine because the Eagles defense was getting

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Speaker 4: the second half that was I mean, it was a

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Speaker 4: near perfect performance kuper Degen making that tackle on Derek

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Speaker 4: Henry in the open field and third down. That's the

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Speaker 4: clip you're going to see on the internet, but that

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Speaker 4: personifies this Eagles defense. Since Week six, they've allowed what

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Speaker 4: twenty nine point the offensive side stirt We'll go back

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Speaker 4: to the defensive side later, but they've allowed fifteen point

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Speaker 4: three points per game since Week six. That's the second

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Speaker 4: fewest in the NFL accord in the NFL research they

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Speaker 4: and before that they allowed twenty four points a game.

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Speaker 4: So if you want some hard number to demonstrate the

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Speaker 4: difference between then and now and the start of this

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Speaker 4: winning streak, it's right there. And they're playing the most

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Speaker 4: complimentary football of any team outside of maybe Detroit, and

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Speaker 4: they have a strong case that they're playing even better

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Speaker 4: to get tested road environment. Baltimore is a good team.

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Speaker 4: Now they've officially proven themselves. I'm taking them very seriously.

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Speaker 1: Right, and we're doing the thing where you talk all

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Speaker 1: these two teams seem very even to me for most

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Speaker 2: Three to three and a half quarters.

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Speaker 1: Justin Tucker's three miss kicks proved massive, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: change the fact that everything was hard for the Ravens.

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Speaker 1: Two of those field goals were from long distance, one

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Speaker 1: because they got a sack to push Lamar Jackson back.

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Speaker 1: The Ravens started fast in the first quarter, but after

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Speaker 1: and like I said, just everything was hard. Even one

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Speaker 1: They played zone on eighty eight percent of their STAPs today.

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Speaker 1: That's the highest number that they've done all season. It's

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Speaker 1: because you don't want to play man against Baltimore and

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson in his running game, and they did it

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Speaker 1: good enough job making Baltimore really earn it. Their offense

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just provide Saquon with the opportunities. Eventually he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get there. But Baltimore, there were two drives in the

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Speaker 3: first half. It was nine to nothing. Lamar had Isaiah

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Speaker 3: likely wide open running a corner route. Isaiah likely kind

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Speaker 3: of chops his feet, changes the angle Lamar throws. It

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Speaker 3: was a bad throw regardless, but he misses him there.

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Speaker 3: And then after a great punt by the Eagles, the

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Speaker 3: Ravens are pinned deep. Lamar has safe Flowers on a

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Speaker 3: ball to the sideline any short arms. Those two possessions

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Speaker 3: wound up being huge for the Ravens there because you know,

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Speaker 3: the game script played out the way that it did,

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Speaker 3: and the opportunities really dwindled as the game went on,

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Speaker 3: where they realized that wide talent wise, even with Red

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Speaker 3: Blanket Ship leaving the game, the Ravens don't have the

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Speaker 3: talent necessary on the outside, and then they lose. They

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Speaker 3: lose a wide receiver in terms of so Zay Flowers

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Speaker 3: had seventy three yards. It's Rashan Bateman goes down with

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Speaker 3: a knee injury. We don't even see their trade deadline

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Speaker 3: acquisition for the remainder of the game he got on.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure if they don't trust him they wanted

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Speaker 3: not enough talent out there.

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Speaker 1: I think we can add up the different Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 1: and then just look at what's happened when he's been

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Speaker 1: a part of some ugly plays, and surmise they just

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Speaker 1: don't trust him right now because they're playing Tyland Wallace

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Speaker 1: ahead of him. Nelson Aguilar got targeted on two deep passes,

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Speaker 1: one of which was a dime and he couldn't pull

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Speaker 1: it in. I don't know if I want to call

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Speaker 1: it a drop. Maybe I'll call it a drop defense.

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Speaker 1: They needed to play perfect football and they didn't. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned that the Gene play where they probably were going

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Speaker 1: to get Henry down, but the fact that he piled

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Speaker 1: drove him that was special. Come on, give.

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Speaker 3: Him it started down. There's another defender in the back.

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Speaker 1: It's just the fact that you pick up Derek Henry,

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Speaker 1: you got to celebrate the wins.

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Speaker 2: Patrick in life, Your.

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Speaker 3: Jean's a very good He got Jamar Chase in the

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Speaker 3: open field. He doesn't. We don't need to celebrate. Like

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Speaker 3: when Lebron tries to take a charge and somebody dunks

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Speaker 6: My god, they dunked on Lebron.

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Speaker 3: It's just like, Okay, Derek Henry got got it was.

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Speaker 3: It was a nice play by Cooper Dejan wasn't even

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Speaker 3: the best play he made in this game.

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Speaker 1: So Saquon's MVP candidacy moves forward, and it's not about

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Speaker 1: just oh, this team won this game and Lamar lost it.

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Speaker 1: I I do think Lamar has not been as otherworldly

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Speaker 2: He's been good, hasn't been as great.

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Speaker 1: And Saquon is just the engine of the hottest team

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Speaker 1: so we still got a ways to go in this thing.

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Speaker 1: But they're ten and two, and another big spot where

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Speaker 1: Saquan in this offensive line, it's all together. To me,

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Speaker 1: if you gave a running back an MVP award, it's

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Speaker 1: presentative of the offensive line and the whole team. And

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Speaker 1: I think that would be absolutely fair. Nick, I thought

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Speaker 1: Sirianni might lose them this game. I really regret not

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Speaker 1: taking the Eagles in it because they have been a

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Speaker 1: better team. I mean, I think it's just obvious on balance,

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Speaker 1: and I picked the Ravens to win. And I was

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Speaker 1: wrong thinking the coaching would make a decision. But the difference,

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Speaker 1: but the coaching has been fantastic for the Eagles this season,

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Speaker 1: especially on defense. And Justin Tucker's miss let's have the

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Speaker 1: conversation quickly. His misses prevented the audience from really enjoying

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Speaker 1: the fourth quarter of this game. We kind of got

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Speaker 1: robbed because Tucker's miskicks could be the difference right now

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Speaker 1: with Baltimore in big games.

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Speaker 2: Now they're at five losses.

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Speaker 1: We'll see how the Steelers did, but you know they're

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Speaker 1: not doing as well in the AFC North here. Do

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Speaker 1: you think about benching Justin Tucker? There's no way they're

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Speaker 1: going to cut people, But do you think about bringing

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Speaker 1: another kicker?

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Speaker 4: So I definitely think about working out another kicker, because

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Speaker 4: we've talked about this the entire season. Now, I've written

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Speaker 4: two separate posts about a month apart about Justin Tucker

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Speaker 4: needing to work on his fundamentals and his technique and

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Speaker 4: it's just something that he can clear up. And he's

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Speaker 4: obviously not cleaning up. And the worst part, in my opinion,

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Speaker 4: I know Jay Feely, I'm not a kicking expert here,

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Speaker 2: They had some really important.

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Speaker 2: They have a lot of work to do to win.

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Speaker 2: Is this the final? They better win?

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Speaker 1: This week, or it's really really really over a game

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Speaker 7: Yo Savashian motion to the left, Pearl gets a snap.

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Speaker 7: Here comes to this pressure the strips act is picked

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Speaker 6: Big Wilson's gonna go in for the score.

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Speaker 7: Peyton Wilson touchdown Pittsburgh Steelers on the strips.

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Speaker 8: Oh Nick Herbing, what a great job of jumping around

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Speaker 9: Peyton Wilson scooping that thing up, scoop and score, and

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Speaker 9: right now we're seeing an exodus of Bengals fans.

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Speaker 2: In this game.

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Speaker 1: It ends up forty four to thirty eight. But Pittsburgh

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can stop. We talked about it before the

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Speaker 3: Chris Boswell extra point after the Wilson returned touchdown, it's

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Speaker 3: a seventeen point game. The Bengals come back. The final

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Speaker 3: But Russell Wilson was simply unfazed in this game. Four

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Speaker 2: I love to hear it.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to look in the Pittsburgh box score sometimes

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Speaker 2: You never see that.

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Speaker 3: When Van Jefferson's going off, then that's when you know.

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Speaker 2: Let's listen to the friarmth touchdown.

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Speaker 7: Russell Wilson steps to the line of scrimmage, communicates to

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Speaker 7: under duress, we'll fling to us right, fine, friar moth

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Speaker 6: Who's better to get loof than the friar moon.

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Speaker 1: Oh love that call there by Craig Wollefully, when you're

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Speaker 2: That's a rough one for the Bengals defense. Nick, Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Gave a silent fist pump, just because, look, we're at

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Speaker 4: And it's time to move on from saying well, if

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Speaker 4: for most of this season. So yeah, we'll put them

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Speaker 4: He just throws it with ease. He made the same

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Speaker 4: They're a balanced attack, and they're liable to do something

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Speaker 1: Fourteen miss tackles for this Bengals defense giving up ninety

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Speaker 10: Did you feel like, y'all offensively, y'll have to score

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Speaker 4: They kind of get as many points as possible given

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Speaker 3: Forward was kind of expectations.

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Speaker 10: Now, how tough is that to play on a game

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Speaker 3: Got a find way, mar you surprised your defense has

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They need they need to find a way. We got

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Speaker 3: That's how it's been.

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Speaker 2: They know it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what it means when a

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Speaker 1: the offense is maybe blaming the defense for what's happening. Like,

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Speaker 1: how does that even manifest or affect them negatively? I

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Speaker 1: all knows it. Lou Ana Roumo shows up for work,

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Speaker 1: they all know that that's what's cost him what could

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Speaker 1: and eight. It's absolutely outrageous. Now his turnovers contributed. The

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Speaker 1: Watt had a monster game two sacks, five quarterback hits,

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Speaker 1: So the Steelers defense made a bunch of big plays.

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Speaker 1: The crazy thing, Patrick, can you watch this game closer

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Speaker 3: Well, the initial George Pickens touchdown after they came back

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Speaker 3: It was just a balanced offense. And Najee Harris left

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Speaker 3: It was just a balanced offensive attack against a defense. Well,

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Speaker 3: you know, as Jamar Chase expects, that gives up a

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Speaker 1: It's funny because everyone was saying, well, wait till the

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Speaker 1: go to Baltimore the week after. So as much as

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Speaker 1: I'm just giving them some credit for playing well at

438
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Speaker 1: this part of the schedule, two of the toughest games

439
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Speaker 1: you could ask for coming up. If they can just

440
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Speaker 1: split those one of those two games, they're going to

441
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Speaker 1: be in great shape to win the division. If they

442
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Speaker 1: lose them both, we will see. And yes, Cincinnati, even

443
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Speaker 1: if you went out, you only get to nine and eight.

444
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Speaker 1: That probably will not get you into the playoffs. And

445
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Speaker 1: there's no reason to think this defense can help you

446
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Speaker 1: win five straight games.

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Speaker 3: On the pickings Bananas Index, though, this game was about

448
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Speaker 3: a three all right, considering the no call that led

449
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Speaker 3: to the pick six. He gets hit for a taunting call,

450
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Speaker 3: which I'm still looking for the first good taunting call

451
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Speaker 3: NFL history, and then he got finger guns. He got

452
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Speaker 3: finger guns on another one, so it's not you know,

453
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Speaker 3: he didn't come off the top Ropen hit anybody. A

454
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Speaker 3: relatively calm Pickens game.

455
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Speaker 1: I mean, the fact that he's by far their best

456
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Speaker 1: wide receiver. You can forgive a lot and it adds

457
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Speaker 1: a lot of enjoyment for me just as a viewer.

458
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Speaker 1: So keep bringing it, George Pickens. You're making me look

459
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Speaker 1: good for having you number two in that draft class

460
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Speaker 1: coming out of the draft, although I still don't know

461
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Speaker 1: if you go number two. Let's go to Minnesota, where

462
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals and the Vikings played a fun one.

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Speaker 9: Here. It is the game's on the line against the

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Speaker 9: Arizona Cardinals.

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Speaker 6: Fourth and ten for Kyler.

466
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Speaker 9: Murray facing a five man rush. Kyler back to pass,

467
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Speaker 9: throws right, Hanner's shop dead.

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Speaker 6: Shotfin the game.

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Speaker 9: Hen it's a high five for the Minnesota Vikings. They

470
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Speaker 9: won five consecutive games. The final score twenty three twenty

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Speaker 9: two Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: Oh great call there, from Paul Allen on k A

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Speaker 1: and how does he roll that G there?

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Speaker 2: I can't do that.

475
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Speaker 1: Big time defensive play by the Minnesota Vikings on a

476
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Speaker 1: day where their defense just bended and bended and bended,

477
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Speaker 1: but they didn't break in the end. And the more

478
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Speaker 1: I watch this team shook, the more it's starting to

479
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Speaker 1: remind me of the twenty twenty two Vikings where they

480
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Speaker 1: they win all those games at the end. Today it

481
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Speaker 1: hasn't been as lucky as that season. Or maybe it's

482
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Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen Vikings where with case keenum and a

483
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Speaker 1: magical ride you're making faces. Either way, this team is

484
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Speaker 1: ten and two and they're finding ways to win games

485
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Speaker 1: they're supposed to. And then in this case, nick I

486
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Speaker 1: would say they found a way to win a game

487
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Speaker 1: that they shouldn't have won.

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Speaker 2: Most of the day was dominated by Arizona.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Well, first off, the twenty twenty two reference, let's hope

491
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Speaker 4: it's not necessarily that because they don't want them upset

492
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Speaker 4: at home in the playoffs. But sure we can get

493
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Speaker 4: on board with this because they are finding ways to

494
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Speaker 4: win these close games and they're stringing together, which is

495
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Speaker 4: a very positive outcome. Of course, you want to stack wins,

496
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Speaker 4: Sam Darnold, you know solid, you know, leveling out, not

497
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Speaker 4: doing a little bit of a rise and fall that

498
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Speaker 4: he was doing it a couple o' clockers along the way.

499
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Speaker 4: Not today, not today. But I got to ask Claybond this,

500
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Speaker 4: what happened to the search bar man?

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Speaker 6: How do you hire you?

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Speaker 4: Up? Nineteen to six in the third quarter, the search

503
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Speaker 4: bar defense goes messing, oh, how dare you?

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well, the search bar eventually, it eventually gave out.

505
00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 3: Justin Jefferson slow throughout the game, it kind of funnel

506
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Speaker 3: coverage his way and Sam Donald being streaky nick like, really,

507
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Speaker 3: there was a point there in this game where I'm

508
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Speaker 3: thinking about what we're gonna say afterwards, and it felt

509
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Speaker 3: like the difference was in terms of the quarterback play.

510
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Speaker 3: But then Sam Donald hits a plus. He has a

511
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Speaker 3: great ball to Jordan Addison down the sideline with rushers

512
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Speaker 3: in his face, hits Jefferson on multiple targets. I think

513
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Speaker 3: that Justin Jefferson finished with ninety nine yards and he

514
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Speaker 3: beat the search bar. You gotta make plays to beat

515
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Speaker 3: the search bar, and Sam Donald made those plays today.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's funny, say, how for a while it felt

517
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Speaker 1: like the difference was going to be the quarterbacks, and

518
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Speaker 1: then in the end you might say the difference, yeah,

519
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Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks. Darnold faced pressure on fifty three point

520
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Speaker 1: eight percent of his dropbacks today, which is an exceptionally

521
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Speaker 1: high number. So the search bar was getting after it,

522
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Speaker 1: and like he's done all season, very against type to

523
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Speaker 1: what he was previously, he did well ten to fifteen

524
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Speaker 1: against pressure for one hundred nineteen yards and two touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: And Kyler Murray, who we noted in the previews show

526
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Speaker 1: has struggled against the blitz all year. Well, he ends

527
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Speaker 1: up facing blitzes on fifty two percent of his dropbacks.

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Speaker 1: He only has five yards per attempt on those dropbacks

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Speaker 1: with two interceptions, and that kind of was a difference

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Speaker 1: because on the plays that they weren't blitzing, his numbers

531
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Speaker 1: are great, and they forced him into a couple mistakes

532
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Speaker 1: and they really bogged down in the red zone.

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Speaker 2: I think they got down there.

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Speaker 4: What was it.

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Speaker 1: They settled for five Chad Ryland field goals, and they

536
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Speaker 1: were a lot of them were just chip shots. A

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Speaker 1: twenty three yarder, a twenty four yarder, a thirty one yarder,

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Speaker 1: a thirty two yarder and a forty yarder, so they

539
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Speaker 1: were moving the ball. Kyler had some plays on the ground,

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Speaker 1: and yet they couldn't finish it off this game. At

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Speaker 1: nineteen sixteen, with four to seventeen to go, Nick, the

542
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Speaker 1: Cardinals had a first and goal from the five yard line,

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Speaker 1: up three, and that was like it was all day.

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Speaker 1: They end up moving backwards with a penalty, a bad run,

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Speaker 1: and the Vikings end up forcing the field goal. At

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Speaker 1: that point they had a ninety one percent chance to

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Speaker 1: win according to next Gen Stats. Later on the Vikings

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Speaker 1: drive to go take the lead. They have a fourth

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Speaker 1: and seven. The Cardinals send the blitz. So it's one

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Speaker 1: of those stats that I just referred to Sam Darnold

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Speaker 1: against the blitz. They didn't blitz much in this game.

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Speaker 1: I think it was like five to seven, but against pressure,

553
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Speaker 1: and he hits a perfect pass on fourth and seven

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Speaker 1: to keep the drive going. Then he eventually gets a

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Speaker 1: go ahead touchdown. Let's listen to.

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Speaker 6: That second and two from the Cardinals. Five takes the snap,

557
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Speaker 6: four man rush, Sam to the right.

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Speaker 11: Cut touch.

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Speaker 6: Showtime and Aaron Jones say, just best for last. We're

560
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Speaker 6: tied at twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Oh Is Aaron Jones showtime. Is that his name name

562
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Speaker 1: show on social media? I should I should know this,

563
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Speaker 1: I should have that memorize. Yeah, Aaron Jones had a

564
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Speaker 1: couple fumbles in this game. He got benched for a

565
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Speaker 1: portion of it. He lost one of those fumbles and

566
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Speaker 1: only ends up with twenty eight uh total yards or

567
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Speaker 1: yards from scrimmage on eight touches. But he gets that

568
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Speaker 1: important interception. This thing's this division's wide open in the

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Speaker 1: NFC North. We get we get the Packers win to

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Speaker 1: stay afloat in the division. Obviously they're going to the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: And the Vikings here at ten and two like they

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Speaker 1: have a chance to be the one seed.

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Speaker 3: They do and and because of late efforts, and Aaron

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Speaker 3: Jones had the fumble at the start of the game.

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Speaker 3: That's why he's you know, doing prayers in the end

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Speaker 3: after that touchdown, because you know, the Vikings had a

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Speaker 3: good start ended with an Aaron Jones fumble, but a

578
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Speaker 3: good finish and the defense made plays. I think the

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Speaker 3: biggest play in this game there was a third and

580
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Speaker 3: ten in the in the start of the fourth quarter

581
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Speaker 3: where the blitz comes on Kyler Michael Wilson's running towards

582
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Speaker 3: the sideline. He sees Kyler in trouble and he starts

583
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Speaker 3: to work back towards him. Well, Kyler's dealing with people,

584
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Speaker 3: so he could throws the sideline route Byron Murphy sees

585
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Speaker 3: that gets to the ball before he does interception. That's

586
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Speaker 3: really the best opportunity that the Cardinals had late. This

587
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 3: Vikings defense just makes plays, the offense picking them up

588
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Speaker 3: when they need to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Cardinals, this is a tough one because it's

590
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Speaker 1: a road game against a playoff team and you really

591
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Speaker 1: felt like you outplayed him for much of the game.

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Speaker 1: That they they haven't had many close losses, like their

593
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Speaker 1: losses have tended to be decisive, but they fall to

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Speaker 1: the six and six, and after being in first place

595
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Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks, they are no longer because

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Speaker 1: the team in Seattle. They got it done in a

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Speaker 1: Gino revenge game. Oh he said it was a revenge game.

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Speaker 12: Third down and seven from the Seattle nine. Blitch is coming,

599
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,120
Speaker 12: throw inside, It's picked off. Leo Williams coming near sign.

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Speaker 12: He's running like a race horse. He's a midfield turns

601
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Speaker 12: up fields blockers. Holy smokes, are you kidding?

602
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Speaker 13: Leo Williams, it's gonna take it in for a touchdown, Seahawks.

603
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Speaker 13: The Seahawks mess up a kick return, they dump it

604
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Speaker 13: on the defense, and Leo Williams says, I got you covered,

605
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Speaker 13: picks it off as he drops back into coverage, comes

606
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Speaker 13: up the near sidelines in front of the bench, picks

607
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Speaker 13: up blockers, and takes it all the way in for

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Speaker 13: a touchdown.

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Speaker 6: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: Ka I r oh Steve Rabel I think he was

611
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Speaker 1: about as tired halfway through that call as Leonard Williams was.

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Speaker 1: It made his voice crack, that's how good of a

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Speaker 1: play it was. That was part of a twenty six

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Speaker 1: to twenty one victory by the Seahawks, which was absolutely

615
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: keyed by that defense and yes, a little bit of luck.

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Speaker 1: That was the key sequence of the entire game, even

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Speaker 1: though it came in the second quarter, because just one

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Speaker 1: play before that, Aaron Rodgers had what should have been

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Speaker 1: a gimmey walking touchdown to Garrett Wilson, where I don't

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Speaker 1: know if it was just inaccurate or he was confused

621
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Speaker 1: on the route, but Aaron Rodgers sails it out of

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Speaker 1: bounds after Wilson absolutely toasts the defender.

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Speaker 2: On that play, very next play, pick six.

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Speaker 1: Leonard Williams, give this man a defensive player of the

625
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Speaker 1: Week award. You didn't give it to him last week.

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Speaker 1: I gave him the Captain Morgan's Captain.

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Speaker 2: Of the Week.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't believe he didn't get it. Pick and he

629
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Speaker 1: got two sacks in this game. This defense to finish

630
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Speaker 1: the game shook in eight straight drives, did not give

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Speaker 1: up a point. They forced two turnovers and two turnovers

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Speaker 1: on downs. And this is really a month I would

633
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Speaker 1: say where Seattle's offense has been good enough, but I

634
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Speaker 1: would say up and down. But their defense has kept

635
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Speaker 1: them in games for long enough for Gino Smith to

636
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Speaker 1: finally get the fourth quarter touchdown drive at the end.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where the Seahawks season has shifted toward the positive,

638
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 4: at least in our collective opinion. Is that Gino has

639
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,720
Speaker 4: not had to carry them in time at times, he's

640
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Speaker 4: put them in bad spots. And the defense has consistently

641
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 4: over the last few weeks been good, been better, kept

642
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Speaker 4: them in games. Now it's getting them back into games

643
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Speaker 4: and affording them more opportunities to take advantage of it.

644
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Speaker 4: And Leonard Williams he is going to get that defensive

645
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Speaker 4: play of the week, hopefully after not getting it last week.

646
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Speaker 4: But Greg, good call on you for spotting him last

647
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Speaker 4: week and that he was overlooked, because nobody's going to

648
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Speaker 4: overlook in this week, and nobody's gonna overlook these Seahawks.

649
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Speaker 4: I know they just beat the Jets, but the fashion

650
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Speaker 4: in which they went to beat the Jets is what's

651
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Speaker 4: going to resonate with a lot of people in a

652
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Speaker 4: tightly packed, kind of messy NFC West. It seems like

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Speaker 4: they're the team that's building steam late as we go

654
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Speaker 4: into December, kind of figuring it all out and putting

655
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 4: it together and playing balanced football well enough to go

656
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 4: win on the road, to go overcome a twenty one

657
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:10,160
Speaker 4: to seven deficit when you just gave up a ninety

658
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 4: nine yard kick return, to be able to bounce back

659
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 4: and still fight and fight and fight, and then end

660
00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 4: up dominating defensively to the point where the other team

661
00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:20,040
Speaker 4: has no chance to erase even a five point deficit

662
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 4: and you come away with yet another victory in a

663
00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:24,400
Speaker 4: big one. Considering what happened with the Cardinals.

664
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Speaker 3: Yeah, having to fight in two phases because the third

665
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 3: phase completely went out of the window. A kickoff return

666
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 3: they fumbled. They had two separate kick returns, two separate

667
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: kick returners fumble on kick returns. They had the Jets

668
00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,719
Speaker 3: have that kick return for the touchdown. Then Michael Dixon

669
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,720
Speaker 3: goes down. They have to go for it on fourth

670
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: and one because Jason Myers was getting ready to punt. Yeah,

671
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 3: coach Mack didn't know who was going to be able

672
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 3: to punt the ball. So they go for it deep

673
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,960
Speaker 3: in their own territory. Fortunately a penalty bails them out.

674
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 3: They had a fourth and goal to go where Gino

675
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 3: took a sack. So much went wrong for the Seahawks

676
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 3: in this one. I do agree that they're a good team,

677
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 3: but they don't escape if they're not playing a miserable

678
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,479
Speaker 3: institution like the New York Jo.

679
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were lucky today. This game was so crazy.

680
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned so the kick return fumbles that they lost.

681
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: They lost two of them, and they fumbled another one

682
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: for good measure, and they gave up the kick return touchdown,

683
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: and so people got like, wow, that is a absolutely

684
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: brutal special team's day. That ignores the other kick returns

685
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,280
Speaker 1: that they gave up. Xavier Gibson went two for eighty

686
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: one on his kick returns. Nwongwu, who had the touchdown,

687
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 1: added another fifty seven yards in terms of kick returns.

688
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 1: It is insane the field position that they were giving

689
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: up play after play, and yes, you mentioned the Dixon injury.

690
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 1: So it does remind you like when teams go for

691
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: crazy fourth downs, like sometimes it really would help you, because, yeah,

692
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: the exact scenarios that they went for it on the

693
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: game winning drive, they went for a fourth and six

694
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 1: on their own third in which the Jets committed a penalty,

695
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 1: so that set up a fourth and one which they

696
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 1: converted on the field goal drive. Before that, they also

697
00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 1: went for a fourth and six on their own forty

698
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 1: four and again got bailed out. That was a play

699
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: you're talking about by penalty. It felt like there were

700
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,920
Speaker 1: a lot of moments in this game where they were

701
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: bailed out by penalty. Gino was solid in this game

702
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and certainly made some nice throws down the field to

703
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 1: dk Metcalf who was in and out and banged up

704
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 1: Dackson Smith in Jigba had some really important catches. They

705
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,160
Speaker 1: do seem to play their best when it matters the most,

706
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: but it was more like that their offense was competent,

707
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,959
Speaker 1: whereas Aaron Rodgers and this Jets offense, which came out

708
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: of the gates looking really good. They played a good

709
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 1: couple first drives. I was like, this is the best

710
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: I've seen DeVante Adams and Rogers. Look, Rogers looked a

711
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: little faster today. And then after that first quarter it

712
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: was brutal. Twelve targets for Adams, he has a terrible

713
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 1: drop and a key penalty. Garrett Wilson had ten targets

714
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: and Rogers just kept missing him. Rogers averaged under five

715
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 1: yards per attempt. It's just dank and dunk and missing

716
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: everything deep, not accurate, and it's just rough out here

717
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: if you're Aaron Rodgers. After the game, Jeff Albrick, the

718
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Jets coach, was asked if he'd consider benching Rogers.

719
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 6: This was the week.

720
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 5: I mean, Aaron was.

721
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: Looking forward to it.

722
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 6: He was off the inter board, he was healthy.

723
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: You said he was a healthy and in quite some

724
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,400
Speaker 3: time and you know, statistically didn't do well at all,

725
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,799
Speaker 3: had some trouble with his accuracy to pick six. Would

726
00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: you ever consider making a change at that position now?

727
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,280
Speaker 3: Not as if today good thing? We got the preface

728
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 3: end for that question.

729
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know he was.

730
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: He was a little more certain about it nick in

731
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,520
Speaker 1: the past. So that makes you wonder if he knows

732
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 1: that there's at least a chance he could get pressure

733
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,400
Speaker 1: from above. According to you know, Diana rassinat the Athletic,

734
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: the owner wanted Rogers bench at some point.

735
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 7: Yeah.

736
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 4: And that's the thing with this Jets team is it's

737
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,239
Speaker 4: not that year three to nine, just that you're, you know,

738
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: trudging toward a dark winter in a hopeless season and

739
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 4: you lose games like this. It's the fact that the

740
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,640
Speaker 4: Rogers cloud is now hanging over you and you have

741
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 4: no idea what the future looks like. In fact, many

742
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 4: Jets fans probably don't even want him involved. It sounds

743
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,360
Speaker 4: like the organization so them might not want him involved.

744
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,439
Speaker 2: He will not be you go from here. There's no way.

745
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 1: And I thought he played better for time stay, but

746
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: there's just no there's no way, you know, you bring

747
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,200
Speaker 1: him back, And what do you mean you think there is.

748
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 3: He's been calling the shots the whole time, and so

749
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 3: like you give him that much leeway.

750
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 1: It's funny because now they've lost so many games that

751
00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 1: I do have to point out, like This is one

752
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: of the better three and nine football teams I've seen

753
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: in a long while. Like they are in all these

754
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 1: games and I can see them convincing themselves as like

755
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:46,640
Speaker 1: we're so, we're so. They had a good defensive game

756
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: plan for most of this, and they just they just lose.

757
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: They have loser vibes where they find ways to lose.

758
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: That is the opposite of what you know Smith does

759
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 1: every time he faces a team that let him go.

760
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,960
Speaker 1: Now five and one, my faceavorite research note from Dante

761
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: uh in our Next Gen Stats research department points out

762
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Gino Smith has that best record of all time against

763
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 1: teams that have gotten rid of him five and one

764
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,919
Speaker 1: for quarterbacks that have played over five times. Let's see

765
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,840
Speaker 1: the tweet that that Gino had of If you're watching

766
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 1: on YouTube, you know it's one of its.

767
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 3: It's the meme of the the guy doing the fit

768
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 3: check at his biggest haters funeral. Yes, and so that's all.

769
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: That's how Eugenie, That's why I assigned myself this game

770
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: and I will forevermore. If Gino Smith is playing in

771
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: the Metowlands against the Jets, that's the ultimate revenge game.

772
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: And he got the revenge for a first place Seahawks.

773
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,919
Speaker 3: Williams by the way, Yes, yeah Williams. Let's not forget

774
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 3: him team revenge.

775
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I don't know if the Jets and

776
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: Leonard Williams had a bad thing and then he played

777
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: pretty well for the Giants. Really underrated career Leonard Williams Stadium. Yes,

778
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Gina Smith getting it done. Let's take a quick break.

779
00:36:58,520 --> 00:36:59,239
Speaker 2: And let's head to.

780
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: Uh what annually is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.

781
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: I would say the NFC South.

782
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 11: Robinson to his left looking middle of the field, no

783
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 11: pressure throws.

784
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 6: Editor spt in Derwin James. Hence the game to it Derwin.

785
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 11: And due to their defense, the Bolts are gonna get

786
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 11: on a plane back to Los Angeles.

787
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:34,800
Speaker 3: With a victory.

788
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: KYSR Matt Money Smith our guy with a great call

789
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: for the great Derwin James. Kind of nice to see

790
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: Derwin James playing meaningful football in December and making big plays.

791
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 1: Finally he's got a better defense and a better team

792
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: around him. The Chargers are eight and four. They win

793
00:37:55,840 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: at seventeen to thirteen, and that is Kirk Cousins fourth

794
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: interception of the game, third nick of the second half,

795
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: second in the fourth quarter back to back drives. Kirko

796
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: Chains tell me it was better than the box score shows.

797
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 4: No, it wasn't. In fact, it might have been worse

798
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 4: than the box scorer. I mean they moved the football

799
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:20,839
Speaker 4: well between the twenties. They got into the red zone

800
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 4: a number of times, and Kirk he had had a

801
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,400
Speaker 4: few really ugly interceptions, including that Derwin James one, but

802
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:27,920
Speaker 4: the one that he threw in the red zone prior

803
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 4: when they had their best opportunity to score a touchdown

804
00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 4: to take the lead was the worst, just most ill

805
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 4: advised throw I've seen in a long time. He never

806
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: had a shot of making it happen. That defined his day.

807
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 4: They wasted so many opportunities. And I don't want to

808
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 4: talk about the losers first, but their defense played its

809
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 4: best game of the season. They got five sacks when

810
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 4: they entered the game with ten combined as a team

811
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 4: on the whole year. They got five today.

812
00:38:49,080 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: Wow.

813
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 4: And they did nothing with it offensively, and a lot

814
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 4: of it had to do with Kirk Cousins not taking

815
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 4: advantage of the opportunity. Bijon goes for one hundred and

816
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 4: two yards to scores a rushing touchdown, they're up seven

817
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 4: to nothing, they'd already missed a field goal earlier, could

818
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 4: have been ten nothing, and then they can do nothing

819
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 4: with it from there.

820
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 5: It was.

821
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 4: It's a frustrating game for them, but another good win

822
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 4: for the Chargers, whose defense I think made, you know,

823
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 4: a statement. After giving up thirty points and that lost

824
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 4: to the Ravens. They come back, They hold the Falcons

825
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 4: to thirteen. They stiffen up in the red zone a

826
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 4: few times. You know, it's a bend but not break

827
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 4: group that really did a great job of confusing Kirk

828
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 4: Cousins in the second half. Jesse Miners coaching really well

829
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 4: right now, and they did just enough offensively and Cameron

830
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 4: Dicker made just enough field goals for them to win

831
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 4: this game on the road and get to eight and

832
00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 4: four and just prove that, hey, we're not going anywhere, like, yeah,

833
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 4: we lost to the Ravens, but we're not going anywhere.

834
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, Nick, you had eyes on this closer to you

835
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: explain to me how the Chargers had one hundred and

836
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: eighty seven yards on the game. That's outrageous. That's one

837
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: of the most surprising things I've seen all day. And

838
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: the fact that they could lose that game. It must

839
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 1: be driving them absolutely crazy because it's the opposite of

840
00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: how they've played the rest of the year, the Falcons

841
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: that is.

842
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that's why I said wasted opportunities because they

843
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,799
Speaker 4: had a million in front of them. I mean, they

844
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 4: were shutting down this Chargers offense. Justin Herbert had like

845
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 4: no time to really operate all day. It looked just

846
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 4: joined the entire day. The running game wasn't there. Lad

847
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,680
Speaker 4: McCaughey was the only guy making plays. Then he left

848
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:08,479
Speaker 4: the game with a knee injury. I mean they barely

849
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 4: had the ball. They lost time possession by nearly twelve minutes.

850
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 4: It was eleven minutes and fifty five seconds. It's just

851
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 4: that the Falcons never finished off any of their drives.

852
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 4: A lot of it was the Kirk picks, but it

853
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: was also just not finishing the drives. So that's how

854
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:21,320
Speaker 4: it happens right there. But you know what, if you

855
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: come away with a win like that, you gotta be

856
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 4: feeling good because you kind of have to feel like

857
00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:26,399
Speaker 4: you stole one, with a lot of that being credit

858
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 4: to your defense.

859
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you saw David Anyamata got a sack. Arrobakatie got

860
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,240
Speaker 3: a couple of sex in this game of Falcons defense

861
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,680
Speaker 3: that hasn't been able to sack the quarterback at all

862
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:39,439
Speaker 3: this season, and Hassan Askins had a fumble to start

863
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: the game, which got the Falcons that touchdown. But it's

864
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,839
Speaker 3: this game. It's one of those games where you can

865
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:47,919
Speaker 3: look at the box score and see exactly what went wrong.

866
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,399
Speaker 3: Those Kirk Cussins four interceptions right were brutal. He has

867
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 3: eight touchdowns and one interception against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

868
00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 3: This season, he has twelve interceptions. Wow, non Buccaneers games

869
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 3: where you've really gone to a standpoint of we're talking

870
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,960
Speaker 3: about Rogers getting benched. Perhaps the Falcons should go to

871
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: the rookie quarterback at this point.

872
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, let's talk about it, because I think it's very

873
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 4: much something that needs to happen right now.

874
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 1: Let's listen to Raheem Morris who was asked about it.

875
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 4: But you'll stick with kirket quarterback.

876
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,319
Speaker 1: You don't have any questions, Yeah, we got no.

877
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 3: Isses with that man.

878
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 14: Like, I don't think that's going to be the issue

879
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 14: around here. You know, that guy's carried us. That guys

880
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 14: got us to the point where six and six first

881
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 14: place in division, still got everything in front of us.

882
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 4: Noo.

883
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 14: But despite what happens today, is up to us to

884
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,479
Speaker 14: bounce back and find a way to point football games.

885
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,400
Speaker 14: And there's no better man in eighteen than go do

886
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 14: that for.

887
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 4: Us strong, I have a response, please for you, raheem okay.

888
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 4: According to NFL research, since Week ten, kirk Cousins has

889
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,400
Speaker 4: posted three straight games with the negative expected points added

890
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 4: his negative twenty four point six EPA and that's span

891
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: Riak's third lowest among quarterbacks. And I'm not done. Kirk

892
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 4: Cousins is the first player with one hundred plus passing attempts,

893
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 4: zero passing touchdowns, six or more inner and at least

894
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 4: one pick six in a three game span since Brett

895
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 4: Farv in weeks fourteen through sixteen of the two thousand

896
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:08,840
Speaker 4: and five season with the Packers. Now, Brett Farve's in

897
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 4: the Hall of Fame, Kirk Cousins isn't going to be

898
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 4: in the Hall of fame. But if the Falcons want

899
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,359
Speaker 4: to get to the playoffs, they may need to take

900
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 4: a closer look at the situation right now because he's

901
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 4: just not helping them, he's hurting them.

902
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 1: I get all that, but I get why Raheem Morris

903
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: is going to stick with him for as long as

904
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: he can. He's moved the he's moved the ball well

905
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: this year. He's been a turnover machine lately. That's what

906
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:32,359
Speaker 1: nine picks in the last six games. But he's also

907
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: fumbled quite a bit. You fumbled today as well that

908
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 1: that would have ended the game, but the Falcons fell

909
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,840
Speaker 1: on the fumble, so they got some luck there. So

910
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what to think, because if the Falcons

911
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: went into the bye week and came out with a

912
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: much more competent defense and pass fresh, they might just

913
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 1: win this division. Despite everything, they're not a great team.

914
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 2: These two teams.

915
00:42:55,640 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 1: Define to me like borderline playoff team. But the Chargers,

916
00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:04,480
Speaker 1: as we talked about going into it, Patrick, We're just

917
00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 1: going to be kind of like the team less likely

918
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: to shoot themselves in the foot, And that's exactly what happened.

919
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, JK. Dobbins is a real issue. And then

920
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 3: you take, as as Shook mentioned, Lad McConkie off the field,

921
00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 3: and it gets to a point where it's it's hopeless

922
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 3: for this Chargers team looking to make plays, even with

923
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: their generationally gifted quarterback. They need the pieces there, but

924
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 3: to see because I was so pleased right with the

925
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,560
Speaker 3: the boost that this Ravens pass rush had at SOFI

926
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 3: Stadium against the Chargers. But now I'm seeing the Falcons

927
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: get off against the offsive line, and it's like, wait

928
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 3: a second, Perhaps what we saw was not necessarily improvement

929
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,760
Speaker 3: from Baltimore. Maybe there's problems on this Chargers offense.

930
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 2: There absolutely are.

931
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: It's on the interior especially, but even the tackles maybe

932
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 1: not quite as strong as you would expect it. It's

933
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 1: just caving in. And yeah, McConkie went nine for one

934
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: to seventeen. The next closest receiver had twelve yards Quentin

935
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:03,800
Speaker 1: Johnson on four targets. And yet this this Chargers team's

936
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: got a little bit of magic. When I have an

937
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 1: excuse to listen to Matt Muney Smith for a second

938
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: time in a game, I'm gonna do it. It was

939
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: the defense scoring the points for the Chargers.

940
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,760
Speaker 11: Kyle Pitts left Bijon in the backfield. They take the snap,

941
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 11: looking right, throwing.

942
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:25,640
Speaker 9: Right in accepted left sideline, thirty twenty tar head still touchdown.

943
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 6: Chargers. Oh fear the turtle.

944
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: We looked it up and tyre Heap still did go

945
00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: to the University of Maryland, a great win there by

946
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 1: the Chargers to get to eight and four. It's gonna

947
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: be tough to keep them out of the playoffs. If

948
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 1: you look at their schedule, it's a fun one next

949
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:48,440
Speaker 1: week against Kansas City. We'll put a pin in that one.

950
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 1: I think there's only one team making the playoffs from

951
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: the NFC South. Is it going to be the Falcons

952
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: or is it gonna be the bus It's time for

953
00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 1: the Sunday Drive, presented by the all new hybrid toy Camra.

954
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: Let's head to Carolina lead.

955
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,359
Speaker 6: A good snap, the spot a little old. The kicker

956
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 6: is airborne, in his airborne.

957
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 9: It's airborne, and it is God Box Win Box Win

958
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 9: Box bit the Carolina Panthers.

959
00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 6: In overtime.

960
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 2: Geene decker Hoff w f us Chase McLoughlin.

961
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,800
Speaker 1: On a day where some kickers struggled in big spots,

962
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 1: he was massive, hitting a kick to force overtime after

963
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 1: a late drive and then yes, that short field goal

964
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: to win it twenty six to twenty three.

965
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 2: In a game.

966
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 1: Frankly, I didn't think the Bucks quite deserved. I thought

967
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:45,799
Speaker 1: that Panthers out played him for most of the day,

968
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:50,600
Speaker 1: but the kickers were a huge difference. Eddie Pinero, who

969
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 1: at one point in the day was the number one

970
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: overall kicker of all time of all time according to

971
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,399
Speaker 1: field goal percentage, misses two short ones in the first half.

972
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: The Panther is bogged down in the red zone over

973
00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: and over again. Included a drop by Adam Thielen on

974
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: a potential touchdown. There are a couple drops on nice

975
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: Bryce Young throws. Bryce Young leads what could have been

976
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown drive, maybe the best moment of

977
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,319
Speaker 1: his young career, and I don't care that they lost

978
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,439
Speaker 1: the game. That to me was the story, very calm

979
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: and composed. He gets the ball back with three minutes

980
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: to go, down four kneeding a touchdown, gets it all

981
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,239
Speaker 1: the way down to the twenty five yard line. But

982
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: today you know, play it safe and go slow. No,

983
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: they get the game go ahead touchdown to Adam Thelm.

984
00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: Let's listen Bucks Rush four. Bryce in the pocket steps

985
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 6: up elutes.

986
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 8: The rush thros episode cut had a Thylan touchdown Carolina.

987
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:53,760
Speaker 6: The Panthers take the lead. What thirty seconds.

988
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 2: Awesome performance by Bryce Young.

989
00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 1: I was watching him in Baker Mayfield and thinking of

990
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: all the similarities that they have and seeing Rice Young

991
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 1: outplay Baker Mayfield, and this would have been a great

992
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 1: win for them. But I gotta think Panthers fans and

993
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: eating Bryce Young fans like yourself, as disappointed as you

994
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: must be. Patrick Man, it's just cool to watch him

995
00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,879
Speaker 1: play in this well. He's stacking better weeks on top

996
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: of better weeks every week.

997
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:18,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, and maybe the only issue with these past two

998
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:20,920
Speaker 3: weeks with the Carolina Panthers, both at home, is scoring

999
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 3: too fast in those closing moments. I mean, you can't

1000
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 3: blame him. That would happen with thirty seconds, just a

1001
00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: brutal letdown to let Baker Mayfield to Mike Evans connect

1002
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 3: eventually leading to that big McLaughlin field goal to send

1003
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 3: the game into overtime. But Bryce nails again. I think

1004
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:40,319
Speaker 3: he's had highlight reels on his incompletions these past few

1005
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 3: weeks where he's baking throws, putting the ball in the

1006
00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 3: right spot, making the right decision. I know people are

1007
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 3: gonna credit him sitting down for it. I think, just

1008
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 3: like if we want to look at Kirk Cousins in

1009
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 3: these past few games, so Kirk Cousins was on a

1010
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 3: touchdown streak. He had seven touchdowns and one interception after

1011
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: beating the Dallas Cowboys and so like, are we saying

1012
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 3: that the Dallas Cowboys deep?

1013
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 6: Oh, it is what led.

1014
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 3: I just think Bryce has talent. We're seeing it play out.

1015
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: The Carolina Panthers are playing better. Jonathan Brooks had his

1016
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 3: best game and his young career, and his limited opportunities,

1017
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,440
Speaker 3: of course are brutal fumbled by Chewbah Hubbard. But overall,

1018
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,239
Speaker 3: the team is better and I think people have a

1019
00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: better idea of what Bryce can do.

1020
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they were in position to win this game a

1021
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: couple times in overtime, or rather a couple times in

1022
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:32,840
Speaker 1: the game right at the end of regulation, as I

1023
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,319
Speaker 1: mentioned that, they played from ahead for a good chunk

1024
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 1: of the game before the Bucks made a fourth quarter comeback.

1025
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,280
Speaker 1: And then yes, he has one of his best throws

1026
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: of the year, Bryce Young. That is on third down

1027
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: and it really points out what he's been doing well.

1028
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:51,960
Speaker 1: The Bucks send basically a zero blitz at him. He

1029
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: stands in there and knows he's going to take a hit,

1030
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:58,359
Speaker 1: throws a pass to Adam thelen Way before theln makes

1031
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,480
Speaker 1: his break and then Theelan who who ends up with

1032
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: eight for ninety nine. This guy is ageless and the

1033
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: touchdown that dropped, you know, just a one salty reminder

1034
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 1: of the day. But otherwise he was absolutely fantastic. Makes

1035
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,360
Speaker 1: a ridiculous one handed catch, and that's what Bryce has

1036
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,200
Speaker 1: been doing. It's been next level anticipation throws. They're in

1037
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,279
Speaker 1: position to win the game in Tuba, Harbard fumbles on

1038
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: the very next play. Unfortunately, Bucks go down and get

1039
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: the win. I do want to give a lot of

1040
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: credit to the Bucks for hanging in there and winning

1041
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: a game that maybe in the past they wouldn't have.

1042
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: Bucky Irving Nick ends up twenty five for one point

1043
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,320
Speaker 1: fifty two. Also thirty three yards on the ground. What

1044
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: if I told you that Bucky Irving has four hundred

1045
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: and twenty four yards over the last three games. That's

1046
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: absolutely ridiculous. Three touchdowns and he looks good doing it,

1047
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: like he makes so many people miss. He's now better

1048
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:50,880
Speaker 1: in the receiving game. He to me, was the difference

1049
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: when they came back in this game. It wasn't because

1050
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,240
Speaker 1: of Baker Mayfield, who eventually made a few good plays

1051
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: but otherwise had one of his worst games of the season.

1052
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:01,359
Speaker 1: It was because they're running game and the red zone

1053
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: defense kept them in it.

1054
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed like every time you looked up you

1055
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 4: saw Bucky Irving ripping off a long run. And it's

1056
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 4: nice to see him taking the lead back role in

1057
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 4: this offense because for the first half of the season,

1058
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 4: Todd Bowles was like, I want to play both of them.

1059
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 4: Hey man bershad White, I'm not sure will he gets

1060
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,759
Speaker 4: twenty five carries Vershod gets eleven. To day, I think

1061
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 4: we know who the number one back in that room is.

1062
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 4: But you know what, Greg, you are a true pro.

1063
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,520
Speaker 4: You know how I know you're a truth pro because

1064
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 4: you totally sidestepped on perfect opportunity as king of all

1065
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 4: Baker Mayfield haters to hate on Baker Mayfield and the

1066
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:32,080
Speaker 4: game of which he threw two interceptions that were both

1067
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 4: kind of predetermined anticipatory throws. He basically gave the Panthers

1068
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 4: opportunities to build this lead and then came back and

1069
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,520
Speaker 4: was able to lead them on that field goal drive.

1070
00:50:40,719 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 4: Chase McLaughlin misses the first field goal in overtime, gives

1071
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:44,959
Speaker 4: the Panthers an opportunity. Then they come down and Baker

1072
00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:47,319
Speaker 4: leads them down again. I can't believe you didn't swing

1073
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 4: for the fences on.

1074
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,359
Speaker 1: That I would have gotten there eventually. Thank you Nick

1075
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 1: for setting me up. I did say it was one

1076
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: of his worst games of the season, and the interesting

1077
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: part of that is I would have said that before

1078
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 1: the interception, he was in Baker Create mode, and it

1079
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,919
Speaker 1: was like Baker Create mode gone wrong. And that's where

1080
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: I saw the comparisons between him and Bryce Young, because

1081
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 1: Bryce Young throw it with so much anticipation, and when

1082
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 1: he went create mode today and stepped up them in

1083
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: the pocket, he had such a good feel for things,

1084
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 1: whereas Baker was kind of doing the thing where he

1085
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: would spin around but then spin right into a sack

1086
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 1: and create more problems than was initially even there. He

1087
00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: got hurt at one point and looked serious. He was

1088
00:51:23,719 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: in the medical tent for an entire Panthers drive and

1089
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: then missed a couple plays, and then he comes out

1090
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:29,319
Speaker 1: on third down.

1091
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,200
Speaker 2: It's like Baker Mayfield the hero.

1092
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: And that's when he throws his second interception, which didn't

1093
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: have anything to do with his health. It was just

1094
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: he didn't see the underneath the fender and zone coverage,

1095
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 1: which happens a lot with Baker, so it wasn't a

1096
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,200
Speaker 1: good game for him, and you're really seeing that their

1097
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: offense is all about ten yards. In under he was

1098
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,319
Speaker 1: six for thirteen on throws over ten yards and that's

1099
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: been the case for much of the season. But the

1100
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 1: reason I didn't hit Hardnick is those last couple drives.

1101
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: Actually he was He did the right He did well

1102
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: like so it's like his defense in his running game

1103
00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: gave him a chance. But he did make some good

1104
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 1: plays at the end to win it. And they do

1105
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: have a Knaka doing that, including.

1106
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 3: A big run on that final drive in regulation to

1107
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 3: give Chase McLoughlin a chance to do it. I think

1108
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 3: the leg might have had a little impact on his

1109
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,719
Speaker 3: performance late, especially he comes back in immediately throws that interception.

1110
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: He might have been better late, though he was. He

1111
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:28,799
Speaker 2: was awful in the first half of this game.

1112
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 3: I'm telling you, yeah, I feel like he got stepped on.

1113
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,759
Speaker 3: I'm not sure that they showed the replay, didn't It

1114
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: looked like anything happened on the play. But then at

1115
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,279
Speaker 3: the end of the play he got stepped on. His

1116
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 3: ankle went in a weird direction. I was kind of

1117
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 3: gimpy on that big run, but enough enough to get

1118
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 3: a win.

1119
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: Huge win.

1120
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 1: I was thinking, what a brutal loss it's going to

1121
00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:52,480
Speaker 1: be for them because they don't have the tiebreaker against Atlanta.

1122
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: This would be another division loss for the Buccaneers, but

1123
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: instead you get this victory. You're six and six, You're

1124
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,960
Speaker 1: now tied with the Falcons. The schedule is more forgiving

1125
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: for them, and right now you'd have to say the

1126
00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are the slight favorite to win that division, but

1127
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: we got five weeks of sloppy NFC South football to go.

1128
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: Disappointing for the Panthers because they legitimately could have felt like,

1129
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: are we in.

1130
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 2: This division race? You never know.

1131
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,560
Speaker 1: They are definitely playing better and I think they're a

1132
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: tough out. Sometimes it's not about your strength is schedule,

1133
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: it's when you play a team. And if you're playing

1134
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,919
Speaker 1: the Panthers, now you're you're playing a reborn Bryce Young.

1135
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,759
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll talk about him for QB Island this week.

1136
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,560
Speaker 1: Oh maybe I'm just saying he's playing that kind of

1137
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: football over the last month, just saying that. That was

1138
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,760
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1139
00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:43,600
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1140
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:49,520
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1141
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,359
Speaker 1: they're keeping an eye on the Commanders because if there's

1142
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:56,399
Speaker 1: gonna be another wild card spot available, maybe it would

1143
00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: be because of a Commander's slide. We'll see if that

1144
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:05,520
Speaker 1: continued in landover third goal, Tennessee's got six across the line,

1145
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,879
Speaker 1: a quick throw to carry the court, caught it, touch down,

1146
00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: touchdown log again his second and a half.

1147
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,400
Speaker 8: Death Texas and terrible torf win it on the slast

1148
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 8: look it and that's exactly what he did too, get

1149
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 8: into his own for the second top in this game

1150
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:24,320
Speaker 8: against the Tipessee types.

1151
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:31,640
Speaker 1: Oh London Fletcher one of the great Washington football team players.

1152
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: You know what I you know what I'm getting at. Yeah,

1153
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: Commanders get the win forty two to nineteen. Bram Einstein

1154
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: and wb IG also involved there. Yes, Terry McLaurin. That

1155
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 1: was his second touchdown of the day. And look, Jaden

1156
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: Daniels came out. He was accurate and he they got

1157
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: to win with a twenty seven to nothing lead. Here

1158
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: shook and never looked back.

1159
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Titans did just about everything they could to

1160
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,240
Speaker 4: put themselves in a very hole. I mean, the essentially

1161
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 4: their first four possessions were not great. Let's go punt, punt, fumble,

1162
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 4: We're down twenty one points. Let's fumble the ensuing kickoff return.

1163
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,920
Speaker 4: Now we're down twenty eight points. Oh god, we're down

1164
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 4: four touchdowns. What are we gonna do?

1165
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 15: You know?

1166
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 4: I felt like Will Levis never really had much of

1167
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 4: a chance to get going. By the time they were

1168
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,479
Speaker 4: down twenty one to nothing, they'd run ten plays. Okay,

1169
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:23,000
Speaker 4: they'd run ten total plays by the time they were

1170
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 4: down by three scores. You know what happens the game

1171
00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: script when that happens. And they did do a good

1172
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,359
Speaker 4: job of fighting back eventually, but the Commanders man back

1173
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 4: in stride. They take advantage of turnovers, they produce points.

1174
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels looks good again. He's ripping the ball over

1175
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 4: the field. He's fining Terry McLaurin for two touchdowns in

1176
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 4: the first half. Everything's flown. Brian Robinson slices through that

1177
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,680
Speaker 4: defense like it's you know, hot knife through butter for

1178
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 4: the first touchdown. Everything's rolling for them. The rumors of

1179
00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 4: a Cliff Kingsbury late season slide Oh, they're way over

1180
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 4: blown because they're playing the Titans. It was a good

1181
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 4: day for them. It was good for them to get

1182
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,920
Speaker 4: back on the right track and play, you know, solid

1183
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 4: team football. They did let the Titans kind of back

1184
00:55:58,160 --> 00:55:59,400
Speaker 4: into it in the second half, but it was never

1185
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 4: really in doubt and finish strong and good for them

1186
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,080
Speaker 4: to get to eight and five.

1187
00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big win for them.

1188
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: But Cliff got the run game going, or at least

1189
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: the players got the run game going. I don't know,

1190
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:12,320
Speaker 1: we have to put it all on the offensive coordinator,

1191
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,080
Speaker 1: but Nick for them to go for two hundred and

1192
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,480
Speaker 1: sixty seven yards on the ground, and right off the

1193
00:56:18,560 --> 00:56:21,400
Speaker 1: bat when Robinson ripped that forty yard touchdown and that's

1194
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: on their first drive of the game. That was before

1195
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: any mistakes by Tennessee offensively. To me, that that showed

1196
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: something a little different because this has been a tough

1197
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 1: Titans team to run against. And Chris Rodriguez goes for

1198
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 1: ninety four, Robinson ends up with one hundred and three.

1199
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 1: Jeremy McNichols when he's out there five point three yards

1200
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: per carry.

1201
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 2: They're not throwing the ball down the field almost at all.

1202
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:44,840
Speaker 1: All of jayde Daniels's yards almost were on ten yards

1203
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: and underthrow, So it's kind of back to their formula

1204
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season.

1205
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 2: But that's a skin.

1206
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: If they're running the ball like that, and they did

1207
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 1: it against a good team like they have a chance

1208
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: to remain scary down the stretch.

1209
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is a necessary reset for them because

1210
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 4: I think they felt a little bit too in love

1211
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:01,360
Speaker 4: with throwing the ball down fieldally trying to during that

1212
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 4: stretch of losses. So shortening the passing game was good.

1213
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:04,800
Speaker 4: But you can only do that if you're running the

1214
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 4: ball well. And we can give Cliff some credit because

1215
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: the Titans were one of the toughest teams to run against.

1216
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 4: Like you said, they were allowing less than a yard

1217
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 4: per carry before contact on design runs. Today they came

1218
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 4: up a ton. I mean, obviously we saw the two

1219
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 4: hundred and forty six yards and three touchdowns on design runs,

1220
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 4: including seventy eight yards over expected. And get this, two

1221
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: point eight yards before contact per carry. That's two hole

1222
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 4: yards per carry more than the Titans were allowing coming

1223
00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 4: in here. So credit to the offensive line in the

1224
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,480
Speaker 4: scheme at least. I don't know if it's necessarily Cliff

1225
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,320
Speaker 4: to get that going, which really balanced out their offense,

1226
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 4: allowed them to operate in the short passing game and

1227
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 4: run away with the thing so much that they kind

1228
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:42,040
Speaker 4: of rested on their loyals in the third quarter before

1229
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 4: they woke up and finish the thing off.

1230
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: Future Chicago Bears head coach Cliff Thingsberry, well, who knows,

1231
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 1: We'll hold that top cars for a minute. Later, They're

1232
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: eight and five. They finally got to their bye week.

1233
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: I thought this was a big game for them because

1234
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 1: they have a couple games where they will be favored

1235
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,040
Speaker 1: significantly against the Saints and the Cowboys down the stretch.

1236
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 1: They probably just need to get to ten wins. This

1237
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: was a big one to get.

1238
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they keep their quarterback clean in doing so,

1239
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 3: where I know we had kind of put the rib

1240
00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 3: concerns away for Jayden a couple of weeks ago, but

1241
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 3: this clearly like this rushing performance and passing performance. I

1242
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 3: think you only had five incompletions in this game. And

1243
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: I will give Cliff credit because it wasn't like a

1244
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 3: late game Hail Mary type situation. We saw Terry McLaurin

1245
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 3: on the right side of the field, ano they're touchdown

1246
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,280
Speaker 3: today in the middle of the game, like, not in

1247
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 3: a weird scenario. I don't think it's a situation like

1248
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 3: in the Bengals game where Terry called to play. I

1249
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 3: think this was Cliff and so the adjustment in the

1250
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,040
Speaker 3: late season Cliff, Yes, meter goes back down and yeah,

1251
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,120
Speaker 3: a plus performance by Cliff Kingsbury against the Titans team

1252
00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,240
Speaker 3: that was fun and dan Quinn's defense as well as

1253
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 3: Cliff Kingsbury's offense drained all the fun away from the

1254
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 3: late season Titan.

1255
00:58:53,800 --> 00:58:58,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, Levius through seven passes in terms of his attempts

1256
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 1: of over twenty yards on the day. Jayden only attempted

1257
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:05,000
Speaker 1: six throws over ten yards on the day. So that's

1258
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 1: the types of different types of offense. And the score

1259
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: certainly was part of that. They didn't need to do more.

1260
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: Terry ends up with two touchdowns eight for seventy three

1261
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: through the air. He was fired up after the game.

1262
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: This is courtesy of the commanders on Twitter. Hey, that's

1263
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: a good.

1264
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 6: Team win, man, that's a play team win. Hey, we

1265
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 6: put the standard out there today, bro he while we

1266
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 6: don't come out every single week like that.

1267
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 13: From practice, the energy, the practice, the preparation, all of it, man,

1268
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 13: That's what it.

1269
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 6: Takes to do what we do.

1270
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 2: Let's go.

1271
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: I'm ready to play.

1272
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: There's something about Terry McLaurin when he speaks, just to

1273
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:46,120
Speaker 1: look at his eyes, it's like, oh yeah, I would

1274
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 1: follow that man anywhere.

1275
00:59:47,360 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 2: That dude is the dude.

1276
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: And kind of like I mentioned with Derwin James earlier

1277
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: with the Chargers, even more so with Terry McLaurin. It

1278
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: is cool to see him playing meaningful December football. So

1279
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,360
Speaker 1: the commander is trying to get a wild card spot

1280
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: in the NF. The same is true for the Colts

1281
01:00:02,440 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: in the AFC. Let's go to Foxborough and let's start

1282
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: at the end fourth and three seventeen seconds left, Anthony

1283
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: Richardson with the game on the line.

1284
01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:17,360
Speaker 15: Shotgun snap for Richardson backs to throw lookie left fires

1285
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 15: into the end zone is a touchdown.

1286
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 6: Gun got him touchdown.

1287
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:26,320
Speaker 2: Colts. He's going for two and it's Alec Pearce and

1288
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 2: he's going for two.

1289
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 16: What great poise and precision on the pass Anthony Richardson

1290
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 16: to pierce in the left side of the end zone

1291
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 16: and it's now twenty four to twenty three.

1292
01:00:37,240 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 17: Anthony Richardson out of the gun, Jonathan Taylor is his

1293
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 17: back left, go to Pittman shotgun, snap for Richardson and

1294
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:46,440
Speaker 17: he's trying to crash up field.

1295
01:00:46,680 --> 01:00:47,160
Speaker 2: He got it.

1296
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: He is.

1297
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,960
Speaker 17: Chief points for the Colts in eight point possession.

1298
01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 8: Give it to your best player on offense and he

1299
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 8: delivers bock on top.

1300
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 16: Twenty five, twenty four, twelve ticks to go, No, never.

1301
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:10,600
Speaker 1: A doubt Matt Taylor and Rick VN Turrey w F

1302
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:14,439
Speaker 1: and I an ending so good we had to play

1303
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:21,560
Speaker 1: two plays. Anthony Richardson, Yes, gets the touchdown when he

1304
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: needs it to Alec Pearce, mister clutch this year. Alec

1305
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 1: Pierce spice Rack was right all those years ago on

1306
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 1: the Around the NFL podcast coming into the draft, Saint

1307
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: Alec Pearce was gonna be a guy and he's turned

1308
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: into a guy. And yes, the the Huevos and the

1309
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: trust of Shane Steichen in that moment to know that

1310
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: two yards out Anthony Richardson running the ball, you're not

1311
01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 1: gonna get a better chance to go ahead and win

1312
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: the game. You don't want to go to overtime with

1313
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 1: Drake May anyways, Let's let Anthony Richardson run it in

1314
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 1: Pat Patriots actually got in position to potentially steal one,

1315
01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,120
Speaker 1: but the Colts get it done in the ena, and.

1316
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 3: They get it done mainly with a lot of the

1317
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 3: supporting cast for Indianapolis coming up short. Late in the

1318
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:11,040
Speaker 3: fourth quarter. Ad Mitchell on Anthony Richardson's best throw of

1319
01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 3: the day down the sideline, had a drop. Kylon Granson

1320
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: on the final drive had another huge drop, and you

1321
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 3: wonder what was going to be the ultimate storyline another

1322
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: game where the Colts coming into it. You look at

1323
01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:26,040
Speaker 3: the box score, say, Anthony Richardson can't make these completions. Late,

1324
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,800
Speaker 3: Alec Pierce comes up with that catch, and then we

1325
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 3: heard the result of Anthony Richardson going in in an

1326
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:35,040
Speaker 3: up and down game that started with the Patriots having

1327
01:02:35,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 3: an incredible drive. I'm thinking, in the back of my head,

1328
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: I'm hearing Greg Rosenthal's voice talking about Alex van Pelt

1329
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: a couple of weeks, so he's dolling it up. Riman J.

1330
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:44,800
Speaker 3: Stevenson has a thirty two yard run, Drake May goes

1331
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,320
Speaker 3: Drake May, and then they get into the red zone

1332
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 3: and things clog up. They had a third goal on

1333
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 3: that first drive of the game. Ultimately run mesh. You're

1334
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 3: playing against the Colts, So Gus Bradley's got everybody sitting

1335
01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 3: in the zone against all the crossers. Drake May has

1336
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:03,080
Speaker 3: nothing going there, get sacked, and that's the theme. The

1337
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 3: Patriots have a ton of red zone possessions, a lot

1338
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,440
Speaker 3: of them resulting in field goals when they do make

1339
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 3: the plays. Anthony Richardson and the Colts came back and

1340
01:03:11,000 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 3: ultimately got this win on a great call by Shane

1341
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,800
Speaker 3: Stecken and great play about the second year quarterback out

1342
01:03:16,800 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 3: of Florida.

1343
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Patriots go two for six in the red zone.

1344
01:03:21,400 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: They have one of their best offensive games of the season.

1345
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: Not just twenty four points, which for them is a

1346
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:29,680
Speaker 1: big number, but four hundred and twenty two yards. They

1347
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: outgained the Colts by over one hundred and fifty yards,

1348
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:37,320
Speaker 1: and that includes a final drive. And they almost left

1349
01:03:37,360 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 1: too much time for Drake May. They give him twelve seconds.

1350
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: They do the gutlass totally idiotic touchback thing coaches. This

1351
01:03:46,920 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: is just such an obvious mistake that coaches keep making.

1352
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: This is the exact scenario where you kick it short

1353
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: of the end zone, you might end up tackling them

1354
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,520
Speaker 1: before the thirty anyways, and you burn some clock. But

1355
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,439
Speaker 1: instead they give the ball to the Patriots at the thirty.

1356
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 1: That gives them time to actually have an incompletion where

1357
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 1: it goes off Hunter Henry's hands. But then Mate sets

1358
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 1: up a bomb of a field goal attempt Joey Sly

1359
01:04:11,040 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 1: from sixty eight yards out after a couple throws to

1360
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: Hunter Henry that the kick comes up short from Joey Sly.

1361
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 1: You know, we did check to see if that was

1362
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 1: a fun call from Zolac. He was subdued actually in

1363
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: that moment. But I am happy to tell you that

1364
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 1: the two point conversion try that Anthony Richardson hit was

1365
01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:33,120
Speaker 1: a good one. So let's listen to that.

1366
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 6: The Colt we're we're going to go for it here.

1367
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 16: Look at this, so scratch those remarks about an extra

1368
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 16: point at overtime. Shane Stike, and the head coach of

1369
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:46,360
Speaker 16: the Colts, is playing for the win.

1370
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:47,280
Speaker 6: White bare right now.

1371
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 16: Twelve seconds ago in twenty four to twenty three New England,

1372
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,400
Speaker 16: Richardson on the gun, Taylor to his left, a two

1373
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 16: point try for the win.

1374
01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:59,000
Speaker 2: Two receivers left to right, fake to Taylor, thrown out

1375
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,280
Speaker 2: the middle.

1376
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 16: Richardson po his way forward, he breaks the plane he's

1377
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 16: in for the two point one and the coach man

1378
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:14,640
Speaker 16: from the nearest sideline and they've taken the lead twenty

1379
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 16: five twenty four with twelve seconds to go.

1380
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 6: Credit to them. That takes pauls. That takes big ones.

1381
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:24,120
Speaker 3: Normally we use euphemism Scott, but.

1382
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 6: Yeah, I like it.

1383
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 1: I like it, And he was giving them credit in

1384
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:31,400
Speaker 1: a big spot like game recognizes game, you know, Zolak

1385
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 1: six and seven, Chookie, they get to there by both

1386
01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: these teams, they both just felt like they needed a

1387
01:05:37,360 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 1: buye And what a big victory for Indianapolis because it

1388
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: really would have felt like this thing's over if you

1389
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 1: lose in Foxborough to so it would have just been

1390
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,600
Speaker 1: a much different feel going into the bye. But now

1391
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: you get a win, and who knows, I've seen teams reset,

1392
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: especially with this late bye where the last four games

1393
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:56,040
Speaker 1: they're a little bit of a different team and they

1394
01:05:56,120 --> 01:05:58,120
Speaker 1: try to figure some things out, and they're at six

1395
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:58,840
Speaker 1: and seven, they're in the.

1396
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 4: Mix, yeah, minding the score and just like, man, this

1397
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 4: would be such a face plant they lost this game

1398
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 4: today considering where they are, but it does set up

1399
01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,520
Speaker 4: for them really well. You come out of that buy,

1400
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 4: you go on the road to Denver. That's a challenging game,

1401
01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 4: of course, But then you get Tennessee at home. You're

1402
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:13,120
Speaker 4: at the Giants at MetLife where we know they're notoriously bad,

1403
01:06:13,360 --> 01:06:15,600
Speaker 4: and then they come home and they played Jacksonville Jaguars

1404
01:06:15,880 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 4: in week eighteen. You can win those last three games, Like,

1405
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 4: I'm picking you in those last three games right now.

1406
01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,360
Speaker 4: So if you can get past Denver and you go

1407
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,720
Speaker 4: four and oh we know what we're talking about, baby,

1408
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,960
Speaker 4: that's nine and ten and sevens some along those lines.

1409
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:29,320
Speaker 4: I can't even do math in my head right now

1410
01:06:29,360 --> 01:06:31,800
Speaker 4: because I'm so surprised by the outcome. Yes, ten and seven,

1411
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: eleven and seven math, whatever it is. Games nine and eight.

1412
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:36,760
Speaker 2: Might get it done.

1413
01:06:36,920 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: If you if you can win the division games, we

1414
01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,439
Speaker 1: will see we keep get winning games.

1415
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:41,640
Speaker 9: Here.

1416
01:06:42,200 --> 01:06:48,360
Speaker 1: On NFL Daily people said, people said, Greg, you're really

1417
01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: gonna go survivor pick against Drake May. Isn't that tempting fate?

1418
01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: You're really gonna be that bold? They are the Colts

1419
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:58,760
Speaker 1: really that good? We had faith, Patrick, we did it.

1420
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, there was so much doubt, right, there was significant

1421
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 3: amounts of doubt.

1422
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 1: I thought it was over and the other one we

1423
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 1: were debating was Seattle, which they were in trouble all

1424
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,920
Speaker 1: game two, and you know what, we were picking between

1425
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 1: two winners. But sometimes in life and in NFL seasons,

1426
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:15,160
Speaker 1: you need a.

1427
01:07:15,160 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 15: Little bit of luck.

1428
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 3: It's Colts got some today. It just it works out.

1429
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 3: I remember the two point conversion for the Baltimore Ravens

1430
01:07:22,320 --> 01:07:25,680
Speaker 3: late where they pull guards, the guards trip over themselves

1431
01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:28,480
Speaker 3: and then Lamar has nowhere to go. Here you get

1432
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,840
Speaker 3: to see the other side where Quentin Nelson is the puller.

1433
01:07:31,320 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: He comes across to Christian Barmo on the two point

1434
01:07:33,880 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: conversion and absolutely flattens m. Anthony Richardson goes in the

1435
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 3: end zone. Just a great call, great execution by the Colts,

1436
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,440
Speaker 3: helping us servar.

1437
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,400
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to watching this closer on the old

1438
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 1: NFL plus maybe a little NFL prony.

1439
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: And how I'm gonna both dual screen.

1440
01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 1: Give me your give me your very short Drake Bay

1441
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:55,480
Speaker 1: just I can't wait to find out like your your

1442
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 1: may review for the day, because a good day offensively

1443
01:07:58,840 --> 01:08:01,560
Speaker 1: for them, I'm still like thinking like anytime they're out

1444
01:08:01,600 --> 01:08:03,640
Speaker 1: gaining opponents by one hundred and fifty yards and they're

1445
01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:06,400
Speaker 1: two leading receivers by far or Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper.

1446
01:08:06,600 --> 01:08:08,280
Speaker 1: You must have something pretty good at quarterback.

1447
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 3: Yeah. And with the Austin Hooper touchdown, the streak continues

1448
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:17,360
Speaker 3: of Drake May's touchdown passes going to different receivers.

1449
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,360
Speaker 1: What is the streak?

1450
01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: I didn't know this streak almost.

1451
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:24,400
Speaker 3: Every Drake I think there's only one common recipient of

1452
01:08:24,520 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 3: Drake May touchdown passes, which has kind of been the story.

1453
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:31,280
Speaker 3: He's spreading the ball around. Just a fun player to

1454
01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:35,479
Speaker 3: watch on a team that is lacking talent wise, where

1455
01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 3: you get a lot of consternation from a fan base

1456
01:08:38,320 --> 01:08:43,080
Speaker 3: that expects excellence and some of those excellent players or elsewhere.

1457
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:44,840
Speaker 1: Right now, Yeah they are and they're three and ten.

1458
01:08:44,960 --> 01:08:47,960
Speaker 1: And I was trying to explain to my dad, Tom Rosenthal,

1459
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: who was probably watching this game at my house. Great

1460
01:08:52,320 --> 01:08:55,439
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving visit, came in for a little NFL Daily, and

1461
01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: I was just telling him, don't worry about all this

1462
01:08:58,479 --> 01:09:00,759
Speaker 1: this week to weeks at the only thing that matters

1463
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,760
Speaker 1: this season is Drake May.

1464
01:09:02,840 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 2: And I'm already you know, I'm already calling the victory

1465
01:09:05,360 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 2: that is that this is a.

1466
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,680
Speaker 1: Ten out of ten draft pick, you might as well

1467
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:10,760
Speaker 1: get a higher pick for next year. As long as

1468
01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:13,559
Speaker 1: he keeps building and looking better each and every week,

1469
01:09:13,600 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 1: that's all that really matters for this team.

1470
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: Let's take a quick break.

1471
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:21,800
Speaker 1: We will see if the Colts Division rival Texans came

1472
01:09:21,840 --> 01:09:22,679
Speaker 1: through in Jacksonville.

1473
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:35,479
Speaker 15: On the other side, cj will get up to the

1474
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:39,040
Speaker 15: line of scrimmage. I formation, third down and five across

1475
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:42,800
Speaker 15: the Houston forty nine yard line. Mixon the tailback, here's

1476
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:44,400
Speaker 15: the toss to Joe running.

1477
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:48,800
Speaker 1: Left, has room, He's got it across the forty forty one.

1478
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 6: That's gonna do it.

1479
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:54,520
Speaker 15: The Texans will kill the clock and they will beat Jacksonville.

1480
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 1: Today they did it. Yes, Joe Mixon sealed the victor.

1481
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:04,120
Speaker 1: Thought that was an important moment for this team. Late

1482
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 1: as the walls are caving in, you're blowing big lead

1483
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,800
Speaker 1: to Mac Jones and the Jaguars. More on that in

1484
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,679
Speaker 1: a second. It was the running game, a revived running

1485
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:18,360
Speaker 1: game in the second half of this game that got

1486
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: them over the finish line. Yes, Joe Mixon goes one

1487
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:25,120
Speaker 1: hundred in one yards on twenty carries. Their success rate

1488
01:10:25,280 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: was pretty high forty five percent, and throughout the second

1489
01:10:29,360 --> 01:10:32,639
Speaker 1: half of this game, their offense did move the ball.

1490
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 1: No team in the NFL I believe needs a bye

1491
01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 1: week more than this Houston Texans team to just reset,

1492
01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,200
Speaker 1: get healthy, figure things out. They get into the buy

1493
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: at eight and five, and it was a little up

1494
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,439
Speaker 1: and down shook, but Nico Collins goes eight for one

1495
01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 1: to nineteen and Stroud didn't look great to me. He

1496
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:57,640
Speaker 1: wasn't pressured that much in this game, and yet he

1497
01:10:57,680 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 1: looked a little skittish. And yet I was really encouraged

1498
01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,479
Speaker 1: that even against the Jaguars, at least you were able

1499
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 1: to run the ball in the second half of this game,

1500
01:11:05,439 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 1: which you just were not able to in the first half,

1501
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: or really the first half of this whole season.

1502
01:11:11,080 --> 01:11:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's probably what prevented them from blowing this game,

1503
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 4: if you think about it. I mean, it's beyond that

1504
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:17,040
Speaker 4: last play that we just played, which, by the way,

1505
01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,120
Speaker 4: shout out to Robert Woods, who's not much of a

1506
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 4: factor in the passing game, but made a big block

1507
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 4: on that play to get the edge. So the first

1508
01:11:23,560 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 4: down it's a veteran move right there. Good job out

1509
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:28,639
Speaker 4: of Bobby Trees. Yeah, you're right. I think they definitely

1510
01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:30,080
Speaker 4: need this by a week. We've seen how up and

1511
01:11:30,160 --> 01:11:32,000
Speaker 4: down they are this season. We've seen how they've struggled

1512
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:33,320
Speaker 4: with the pass protection, and even on a day in

1513
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:37,080
Speaker 4: which they really protected better than usual, they still struggled offensively.

1514
01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,000
Speaker 4: I don't know if a week is going to fix them,

1515
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,080
Speaker 4: but it would have been much worse if you left

1516
01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:43,160
Speaker 4: Jacksonville with a loss, because then you're soul searching. Then

1517
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 4: you're looking at it and saying, how do we lose

1518
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,719
Speaker 4: to a Jaguars team that lost Trevor Lawrence to injury

1519
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 4: in a game and Mac Jones Camp comes in and

1520
01:11:49,560 --> 01:11:51,879
Speaker 4: throws two touchdowns on us. They have this frantic comeback

1521
01:11:52,120 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 4: That would have been terrible. So it's good that you

1522
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 4: get out of there with that win. It's good that

1523
01:11:55,040 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 4: Nico Collins is still doing Nico Collins things, which God,

1524
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: he's I mean, even the most stimistic projectors for him

1525
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 4: coming out of Michigan never would have seen him be

1526
01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: this good in the NFL. He's awesome. But still, yeah,

1527
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 4: there's still a couple steps away from being the Texans

1528
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,639
Speaker 4: team that I think we want them to be because

1529
01:12:10,640 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 4: of pass projection, but really because of offensive rhythm and

1530
01:12:12,720 --> 01:12:14,760
Speaker 4: flow in general. So good time to going to the

1531
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 4: buyo with a win, and that's pretty much it.

1532
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: This reminded me of so many Texans games while Nego

1533
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,080
Speaker 1: Collins was hurt and I just was watching it thinking, oh,

1534
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: they'd lose this game without Nego Collins. It is that

1535
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: big of a difference because on offense they have six

1536
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: points at halftime, a couple short field field goal drives,

1537
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,439
Speaker 1: but otherwise struggling. But like I said, in the second half,

1538
01:12:34,479 --> 01:12:36,519
Speaker 1: for the most part, they moved the ball and they

1539
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,160
Speaker 1: moved it well, and so did Mac Jones. Let's get

1540
01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 1: to the reason why he was in this game though.

1541
01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence takes a really rough late hit from Aziz

1542
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: al Shaier, who was immediately ejected from the game. Jerry

1543
01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:55,920
Speaker 1: and Jones, the Jaguars cornerback, comes in and tries to

1544
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: protect her stick up for his quarterback. He ends up

1545
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: getting ejected too, So there was offsetting penalties that the injury,

1546
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: and the penalty didn't even really hurt the Texans, it

1547
01:13:07,680 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 1: helped them because it took Trevor Lawrence out of the game.

1548
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: I am curious what the NFL will do with this one.

1549
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,000
Speaker 1: Feels like he might get suspended beyond this week because

1550
01:13:18,040 --> 01:13:20,560
Speaker 1: it basically is everything you don't want to see, a

1551
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 1: super late hit and you you saw Lawrence there in

1552
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: the fencing position. Uh, and it was a concussion. After

1553
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:30,479
Speaker 1: the game, Doug Peterson talked about it. Let's us let's listen.

1554
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 10: Well, I was excited for Trevor to get back out there,

1555
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 10: you know, and and start for our team and lead

1556
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 10: our football team. You know, this week that was always

1557
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:42,840
Speaker 10: the the goal, you know, was to shoot for you know,

1558
01:13:42,880 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 10: the Houston game and getting back out there. And you know,

1559
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,719
Speaker 10: it's just again, it's unfortunate. It's a it's a play

1560
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:52,920
Speaker 10: that that really has no you know, business being in

1561
01:13:53,000 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 10: our in our league.

1562
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll show here at this point has this is

1563
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:03,679
Speaker 3: not as first time right in an involvement where people

1564
01:14:03,920 --> 01:14:08,000
Speaker 3: are questioning, right, his commitment to the type of atmosphere

1565
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 3: that we would like to see in an NFL game.

1566
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: A clip of him taking Tom Brady out in the

1567
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: neck when Brady was on the bucks that was flowing

1568
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:15,679
Speaker 1: out there yet.

1569
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 3: And so I can understand people saying it's a difficult

1570
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,680
Speaker 3: spot for a defender when the quarterback is in this

1571
01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 3: sliding motion there. But there's no reason to launch and

1572
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 3: to bring your arm up, which is protected by a

1573
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,519
Speaker 3: giant brace directly at the head and neck area the

1574
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 3: quarterback as Treford Lawrence's head gets bounced off the ground.

1575
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 3: There issues with because the fight, which is understandablely Evan

1576
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 3: Ingram grabbed a hold of al Shire, did not let

1577
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:46,519
Speaker 3: go for at least fourteen seconds after that. Of course,

1578
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 3: Jones and al Shire get run after that, but it

1579
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:51,559
Speaker 3: just took a whole lot of time to get al

1580
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 3: Shire off the field. Yeah, where they came back from

1581
01:14:54,160 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 3: the break and he was still in the game, And

1582
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 3: I was just wondering, aside from breaking up the fight,

1583
01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 3: why is it's such a difficult thing to remove the

1584
01:15:02,240 --> 01:15:05,880
Speaker 3: player from the stadium at that point because things still

1585
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:09,160
Speaker 3: went on Brandon Shriff for him and him or drawing,

1586
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:11,280
Speaker 3: and a lot of this is going while Trevor's lying

1587
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 3: motionless on the ground. It's just a real tough way

1588
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:17,479
Speaker 3: to go about watching this football game. But yeah, you could,

1589
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 3: you could make all the excuses for Elshaw, you're there.

1590
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:22,320
Speaker 3: It was just it was a very very unnecessary play

1591
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 3: and a dangerous one that we don't.

1592
01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,040
Speaker 1: Want, especially when you have a history of doing it.

1593
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,760
Speaker 1: And yeah, when he left the field. Some of the

1594
01:15:28,880 --> 01:15:31,840
Speaker 1: Jaguars fans were let him know about it. We're throwing

1595
01:15:31,920 --> 01:15:33,960
Speaker 1: some things at him and it was ugly.

1596
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 3: Which is a circumstance. Do you make worse by having

1597
01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:38,880
Speaker 3: him stay on the field for that amount of time?

1598
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and who knows what the game would have been

1599
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,679
Speaker 1: like if Laurence stayed in there. It's worth noting they

1600
01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 1: were struggling offensively, Both offenses were struggling when Trevor was

1601
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: out there. He was a little off in terms of

1602
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 1: his timing. I would say with his receivers. Had had

1603
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: one really nice throw that you were like, oh, that's

1604
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 1: a Trevor Lawrence type of throw, but also had some

1605
01:15:58,439 --> 01:16:00,519
Speaker 1: big misses in an interception on the drives he was

1606
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:03,400
Speaker 1: out there. Doug Peterson said after the game that it's

1607
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:06,760
Speaker 1: too early to determine whether he will be out for

1608
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: the rest of the season, But the fact that that

1609
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 1: question is even being asked, he's playing through this shoulder injury.

1610
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:16,800
Speaker 1: It'd be surprising to see him in the upcoming week.

1611
01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: Certainly so. A big win for the Texans, but definitely

1612
01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:24,479
Speaker 1: marred on a day where, yeah, like I mentioned, CJ.

1613
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 1: Stroud only had there was only one quick pressure for

1614
01:16:27,000 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: the Jaguars on the entire game, and I went back

1615
01:16:29,280 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 1: to make sure I was right about this. It was

1616
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: their very first play because I was like, man, that

1617
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,160
Speaker 1: first play he got absolutely you know, smashed by Devin

1618
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: Lloyd and that was the one quick pressure and it

1619
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 1: was such a big hit. I almost felt like it

1620
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: affected Stroud for the rest of the day. He's not

1621
01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: as comfortable right now in the pocket. He made a

1622
01:16:47,080 --> 01:16:49,479
Speaker 1: lot of really nice throws, and he made a lot

1623
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,599
Speaker 1: of just rushed throws where he kind of sacked himself

1624
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,479
Speaker 1: and it's just not the CJ. Stroud we are used

1625
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 1: to seeing. So, like I said, I hope a bye

1626
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:01,360
Speaker 1: week can help him reset. Let's go to the NFC

1627
01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,680
Speaker 1: where the Rams and the Saints were playing in a

1628
01:17:03,760 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: game I dubbed kind of the give us one more

1629
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,759
Speaker 1: week Bowl, Give us one more week where we feel relevant,

1630
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 1: whether it's the Rams or the Saints, who comes out

1631
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: on top.

1632
01:17:12,720 --> 01:17:15,840
Speaker 11: Dafford in the shotgun, eighth player of the drive in

1633
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:19,240
Speaker 11: a fourteen all tie angle from the seven.

1634
01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 6: They shoot it down the line right side. Pooka's got it.

1635
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,519
Speaker 6: He finds his way in behind his blocks.

1636
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:30,520
Speaker 9: Cooper Cup, Colby Parkinson, paving the way the paydirts touchdown,

1637
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 9: Puka Nakua touchdown, la oh jb.

1638
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,160
Speaker 2: Long popping those peas. A little bit of a literation,

1639
01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: a little.

1640
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:44,120
Speaker 1: Bit of showing the listener a picture of the blocking

1641
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: that goes on. That's what makes the Rams special, what

1642
01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: they have left that is special. On offense, they've been

1643
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: a little up and down. It is that blocking from

1644
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: the edge receivers and the tight ends they get out

1645
01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: of New Orleans Rizzy Ball's dangerous.

1646
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 2: With a twenty one to fourteen victory.

1647
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 1: Saints had a six to nothing lead early in this game,

1648
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 1: and the Rams come out of halftime and like kind

1649
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: of theyve been doing a lot shook, have a big

1650
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:15,000
Speaker 1: stretch of the game where it's just taken a while

1651
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:16,840
Speaker 1: to crank it up, but then.

1652
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:19,680
Speaker 2: They do, and usually it's Puka Nakua right in the

1653
01:18:19,720 --> 01:18:20,160
Speaker 2: middle of it.

1654
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,280
Speaker 1: And that was a very Puka Akua heavy drive which

1655
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:24,760
Speaker 1: eventually gave them the lead.

1656
01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:26,479
Speaker 2: That was with a little under nine minutes to go.

1657
01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:28,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny because of their scoring drives. They had

1658
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 4: an eleven play drive and they play drive. Then in

1659
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,960
Speaker 4: between there there was a four play drive and ended

1660
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,320
Speaker 4: with the DeMarcus Robinson touchdown catch. But otherwise, yeah, that's

1661
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:38,000
Speaker 4: who this offense is. They're not like this overly explosive,

1662
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,640
Speaker 4: big play passing game that you maybe would expect from

1663
01:18:40,680 --> 01:18:43,479
Speaker 4: a team with Cooper Cup and Pookinakua involved. But it's

1664
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 4: still better than the alternative, which is what we saw

1665
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 4: when they played Miami and what we've seen, you know,

1666
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:50,200
Speaker 4: when they played the Eagles, which is like struggling to

1667
01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,280
Speaker 4: hit the throws that you expect Matt Stafford to throw.

1668
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,439
Speaker 4: At this point, we can't pin him down. We really

1669
01:18:54,479 --> 01:18:56,479
Speaker 4: can't pin the Rams down unless Kyram Williams breaks one

1670
01:18:56,520 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 4: hundred yards on the ground, which is what he did

1671
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,560
Speaker 4: today on fifteen attempt scores a touchdown. And you know

1672
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 4: it's funny because you say give us one more week,

1673
01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 4: it's they give us one more week.

1674
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:03,479
Speaker 1: Bowl.

1675
01:19:03,479 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 4: Well, Greg, they're six and six, they're right there.

1676
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:06,679
Speaker 2: That's true.

1677
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 4: Nobody wants to win.

1678
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 2: But my logic with that was that is true.

1679
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:13,759
Speaker 1: But my logic with that one was if they lose

1680
01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:17,400
Speaker 1: in New Orleans and likely fall two games back in

1681
01:19:17,479 --> 01:19:21,040
Speaker 1: the division, they're just not a team that we're taking seriously.

1682
01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 5: Now.

1683
01:19:21,240 --> 01:19:23,560
Speaker 1: I thought they would win this game ultimately, because we

1684
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,439
Speaker 1: kind of call them the best bad team maybe, or

1685
01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:28,639
Speaker 1: like they're a good bad team.

1686
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 2: They're at six and six.

1687
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,280
Speaker 1: I do feel like I can peg them and they

1688
01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,680
Speaker 1: might change who they are, But to me, they are

1689
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:34,599
Speaker 1: six and six team.

1690
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:36,160
Speaker 2: They are who their record says they are.

1691
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: They have enough talent on both sides of the ball,

1692
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:40,880
Speaker 1: then they can get it done against bad teams. And

1693
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:42,800
Speaker 1: ultimately New Orleans is that.

1694
01:19:43,080 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, they can do that. In a weird game script

1695
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 3: where it starts off and first of all, the Saints

1696
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,320
Speaker 3: have lengthy possessions late in the second quarter and Matt

1697
01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: Stafford has less than thirty passing yards. Wow, And Blake

1698
01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 3: Corham is out carrying Karen Williams. And then you fast

1699
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 3: forward to the end of the game and they're electric

1700
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 3: in the second half and Kyra Williams goes fifteen carries

1701
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,600
Speaker 3: over one hundred yards. I think averages nine yards to

1702
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 3: carry in this game, including the one that Ice is

1703
01:20:11,560 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 3: the game. Well, just I don't want to say that

1704
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,559
Speaker 3: Ice the game because the rookie all everything edge rusher

1705
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 3: winds up Ice in the game. On defense, the Saints

1706
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:26,240
Speaker 3: have a fourth and goal situation. Derek Carr holds onto

1707
01:20:26,280 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 3: the ball way too long, Jared Versus is able to

1708
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:32,320
Speaker 3: get to him, knock the ball away Rams win.

1709
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:36,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I heard from Jordan who was there at the game,

1710
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, say he wanted to Jared Verse wanted to

1711
01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 1: hold himself accountable. He told Jordan in the press there

1712
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,280
Speaker 1: that after the game he ends up with seven pressures

1713
01:20:45,560 --> 01:20:49,000
Speaker 1: on this game and that was a big one. And

1714
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 1: apparently McVeigh said he was really impressed with versus attitude

1715
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:56,240
Speaker 1: throughout the week, that he humbled himself after maybe feeling

1716
01:20:56,280 --> 01:21:01,280
Speaker 1: himself a little too much after you know, really getting

1717
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: it going. This is a young team, They've had ups

1718
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: and downs. Apparently players and coaches were very vocal in

1719
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: the locker room at halftime to just start running the

1720
01:21:11,240 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: damn ball, and they did and ultimately, you know, Stafford

1721
01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 1: gets it going enough. They get to six and six

1722
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: and I'll miss Rizzy Ball. We still got the rest

1723
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:26,360
Speaker 1: of the season shook. But if they had won this game,

1724
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:27,800
Speaker 1: it's like they would have been kind of back in

1725
01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:31,080
Speaker 1: the NFC South race and they were not given one

1726
01:21:31,200 --> 01:21:32,840
Speaker 1: more week. One thing that'll stand out to me in

1727
01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:35,920
Speaker 1: this game is Taysom Hill left on the cart and

1728
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:41,840
Speaker 1: the reaction of the fans. They're chanting Taysom Hill's name

1729
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: as he was helped off car. Derek Carr spoke afterwards

1730
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,679
Speaker 1: and it was a little emotional just about that reaction

1731
01:21:47,800 --> 01:21:49,560
Speaker 1: that Taysom Hill got. So you feel for him and

1732
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:52,280
Speaker 1: hopefully Taysom Hill, who we've seen is kind of the

1733
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 1: key to this offense. Weirdly, we hope he'll be better

1734
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:58,040
Speaker 1: down the stretch.

1735
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 3: Decidedly before and after moments in this game, before the

1736
01:22:02,360 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 3: taste of injury and after the taste of injury because

1737
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,640
Speaker 3: he's heavily involved in so many things that the Saints do,

1738
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 3: and really an emotional hit to the crowd and the

1739
01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 3: team as well to see Taysom go down like that,

1740
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:16,479
Speaker 3: and NFL Network and sider Ian Rappaport saying that still

1741
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,320
Speaker 3: got the MRI coming up. But they fear that that's

1742
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:20,960
Speaker 3: going to be it for number seven for the Saints

1743
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 3: this year.

1744
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:26,000
Speaker 1: That would be a big letdown and a big subtraction

1745
01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: just in terms of what a value add Taysom Hill

1746
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: has been for these Saints games. Kind of a lost

1747
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,920
Speaker 1: season for the Saints now almost officially feels like they're

1748
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,160
Speaker 1: out of it, although there's not a lot that's official,

1749
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,439
Speaker 1: even after thirteen straight weeks. But there is one team,

1750
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,640
Speaker 1: just one that's officially eliminated from playoff contention. And there

1751
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 1: is one team that officially punched their ticket to the playoffs.

1752
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:55,479
Speaker 1: That actually happened on Friday. Let's go to Arrowhead. This

1753
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,120
Speaker 1: has got to be either on the sideline or quick

1754
01:22:58,160 --> 01:22:58,519
Speaker 1: till they.

1755
01:22:58,520 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 2: Still the tonal wasn't ready, the balls on the.

1756
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 6: Turf, and the jaw fuckball black. Now please be a

1757
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:08,800
Speaker 6: full start. Otherwise this game is over.

1758
01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:13,680
Speaker 3: I think it's ball. Yeah, Chris Chounson song breaker. A

1759
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:20,679
Speaker 3: little shift on the offense, put it his decline.

1760
01:23:21,520 --> 01:23:23,800
Speaker 6: It seems good to put the backers pass and take

1761
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:24,639
Speaker 6: over face down.

1762
01:23:29,240 --> 01:23:30,320
Speaker 3: How is a heartbreaker?

1763
01:23:31,080 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 17: In a season full of prep punch losses, this is

1764
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,679
Speaker 17: the most heartbreaker. Oh my goodness, you feel for the Raiders.

1765
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:48,920
Speaker 1: Macon Crosby and Aidan O'Connell and even Jason Horowitz and

1766
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,560
Speaker 1: Lincoln Kennedy there in the booth for a k R

1767
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:56,840
Speaker 1: l V. The Raiders fumble a chance on a bad

1768
01:23:57,520 --> 01:24:03,360
Speaker 1: snap in field goal range in Arrowhead as time was

1769
01:24:03,479 --> 01:24:07,519
Speaker 1: ticking down. Thought they played well enough to win. Nayden

1770
01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 1: in O'Connell throws for three hundred and forty yards. The

1771
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,320
Speaker 1: Raiders defense gets them the ball back a couple times late,

1772
01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,800
Speaker 1: as the Raiders can't finish off those offensive drives. But

1773
01:24:18,920 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 1: the Chiefs are the first team into the playoffs in

1774
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, get the win nineteen to seventeen. It

1775
01:24:30,240 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: feels like every week, Nick, the Chiefs win and they

1776
01:24:34,960 --> 01:24:37,720
Speaker 1: look worse doing it, and the vibes and like the

1777
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:42,400
Speaker 1: conversation afterwards are almost probably more frustrating for Chiefs fans

1778
01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: and Chiefs players. It really is starting to give you

1779
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:47,600
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three Eagles vibes. I don't think it's like that,

1780
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:50,080
Speaker 1: but the way these wins keep getting worse and worse,

1781
01:24:50,200 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 1: they really were outplayed. The Raiders put up over four

1782
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 1: hundred yards of them and easily outgain them on the day,

1783
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 1: but ultimately the Chiefs get the win.

1784
01:24:57,720 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 4: I pushed back on that a little bit. The Raiders

1785
01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,719
Speaker 4: on the scoreboard were non existed until the third quarter

1786
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:07,040
Speaker 4: when Brock Bauers made that phenomenal catch for a touchdown

1787
01:25:07,120 --> 01:25:10,040
Speaker 4: pass a reception to make it sixteen to ten, and

1788
01:25:10,120 --> 01:25:12,360
Speaker 4: then you had Trey Tucker in motion around the end

1789
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 4: for a fifty eight yard touchdown. Pass and suddenly they're

1790
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,400
Speaker 4: in the lead. Because before that, this is one of

1791
01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 4: those rare moments since I've been remote over the last

1792
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,320
Speaker 4: five years, where I felt like I was sitting in

1793
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:24,680
Speaker 4: the newsroom with Patrick again watching the games like it's

1794
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:27,680
Speaker 4: twenty seventeen again, because he and I are both, you know,

1795
01:25:27,800 --> 01:25:30,040
Speaker 4: sending each other messages on social media about how aid

1796
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:32,800
Speaker 4: and O'Connell refuses to scramble, and I'm just sitting there, going,

1797
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 4: he's got room to run, he's throwing the ball really well,

1798
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 4: and yet they're getting nothing out of it. They get

1799
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,080
Speaker 4: a turnover on downs in Chiefs territory. They just a

1800
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 4: bunch of missed opportunities, really, and then suddenly they explode

1801
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:44,720
Speaker 4: and they have the lead. But it felt that whole

1802
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 4: time like, well, that's not going to last. And then

1803
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:48,800
Speaker 4: the Chiefs get an opportunity and they have to settle

1804
01:25:48,800 --> 01:25:51,160
Speaker 4: for a field goal, which goes back to what they've

1805
01:25:51,240 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 4: been all year. Their red zone offense, by the way,

1806
01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:56,240
Speaker 4: guys really really concerning, like it seems to get worse

1807
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 4: every week just with the rest of their performances, and

1808
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:00,600
Speaker 4: yet they're eleven and one cause they still get the

1809
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,280
Speaker 4: job done. DeAndre Hopkins dropped the pass on third down

1810
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:05,439
Speaker 4: that Patrick Mahomes made a heroic play. He gets out

1811
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:08,240
Speaker 4: of a Max Crosby sack, he escapes, he's falling forward

1812
01:26:08,240 --> 01:26:10,280
Speaker 4: and throws into a wide open Hopkins. He drops it

1813
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 4: over the middle. They missed Xavier Worthy on a third

1814
01:26:13,200 --> 01:26:14,600
Speaker 4: down call where they tried to throw it over a

1815
01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,800
Speaker 4: defense that was very much prepared for the run. They

1816
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 4: did a lot of things to lose this game, but

1817
01:26:18,360 --> 01:26:20,200
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like the Raiders necessarily were in a

1818
01:26:20,240 --> 01:26:22,560
Speaker 4: position that they could say, hey, we outplayed you. We

1819
01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,200
Speaker 4: outplayed you for about twelve minutes in the second half,

1820
01:26:25,400 --> 01:26:27,280
Speaker 4: and we were in position to win. But then again,

1821
01:26:27,360 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 4: we are the Raiders, And that last play really drove

1822
01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 4: me up a wall because they break the huddle with

1823
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 4: like six seconds on the play clock. Of course there's

1824
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:36,240
Speaker 4: going to be operational confusion. Of course, that snap's going

1825
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:38,080
Speaker 4: to happen early, and it points to the lack of

1826
01:26:38,200 --> 01:26:40,880
Speaker 4: experience for Aidan O'Connell and a rookie and center Jackson

1827
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,160
Speaker 4: Powers Johnson just a tough scene for them.

1828
01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 3: With the turner contingency up upstairs getting the play in

1829
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:51,040
Speaker 3: perhaps a touch second late for the Raiders, but my

1830
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:55,400
Speaker 3: Chiefs quest. It's not twenty twenty three Eagles in the

1831
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:59,200
Speaker 3: sense that you know there's blown coverages and weird stuff

1832
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 3: going on in the secondary. They give it up a

1833
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,799
Speaker 3: ton of points in December Sincere McCormick, who I literally

1834
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,240
Speaker 3: just had to google again just now to remember his

1835
01:27:07,320 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 3: first name, had five point three yards per carry. Yeah, eight,

1836
01:27:10,760 --> 01:27:13,439
Speaker 3: and O'Connell throws for three forty. We saw the Bills

1837
01:27:13,479 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 3: score thirty Bryce and the Panthers almost did it. And

1838
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,360
Speaker 3: then until he took the lid off the rim there

1839
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:23,200
Speaker 3: shook because we're tracking eight to O'Connell's scramble yards, which

1840
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,799
Speaker 3: he has none in his career. He had a scramble

1841
01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 3: that got called back for a hold in this game,

1842
01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,800
Speaker 3: so he still hasn't done it. But after that he

1843
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 3: was unlocked and he was unconscious the rest of the

1844
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,320
Speaker 3: game because he hits the touchdown there, hits the touchdown

1845
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,880
Speaker 3: to Bowers. He finishes with those two touchdowns twenty three

1846
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:41,840
Speaker 3: to thirty five. The Chiefs defense has a problem right.

1847
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:46,920
Speaker 1: Now, Greg, Yeah, they do the secondary. I think got

1848
01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,160
Speaker 1: worse by putting McDuffie on the outside. He's a good

1849
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:54,640
Speaker 1: outside corner, but he's not a special outside corner. He

1850
01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 1: was special on the inside. That made the inside position

1851
01:27:57,680 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: worse where they're really struggling. The other out side position

1852
01:28:00,920 --> 01:28:03,760
Speaker 1: is getting torched. Some of it in this game was

1853
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 1: brock Bauers just being special, but he's beating their cornerbacks.

1854
01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 1: He goes for ten for one forty. Jacobe Myers had

1855
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: a strong game. Started out really well in this game,

1856
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,760
Speaker 1: especially in the first half. Tucker had that fifty eight

1857
01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,559
Speaker 1: yard catch and so, okay, that's one thing that's a problem.

1858
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,880
Speaker 1: I saw the line of scrimmage, as you mentioned, getting

1859
01:28:19,960 --> 01:28:22,880
Speaker 1: pushed back against the worst running team in the league.

1860
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:26,719
Speaker 1: Although they have been better offensively overall since the Turnie

1861
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,320
Speaker 1: took over, they really have turned this thing around.

1862
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 3: Job.

1863
01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,519
Speaker 1: And then the only reason I said they deserve to

1864
01:28:33,560 --> 01:28:37,160
Speaker 1: win is because in the key part of the game,

1865
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 1: after those two quick touchdowns, it's fourth quarter, you know,

1866
01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:42,600
Speaker 1: you bow up in the red zone to force a

1867
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: field goal by the Chiefs, who keep struggling in the

1868
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:47,160
Speaker 1: red zone. You're down by a couple points and the

1869
01:28:47,280 --> 01:28:50,599
Speaker 1: Raiders do get back in field goal range. Carlson misses one.

1870
01:28:50,960 --> 01:28:52,960
Speaker 1: It's one of three misses on the date. They were

1871
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 1: all really long in cold weather. So it's not the

1872
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: field goals that you want, and so you give the

1873
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: Chiefs defense some credit there, but the Chiefs all to

1874
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,120
Speaker 1: go two and out, I mean three and out twice

1875
01:29:02,160 --> 01:29:05,719
Speaker 1: in that sequence where a couple first downs win the game,

1876
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:08,640
Speaker 1: and they just can't do it. And I'm glad you

1877
01:29:08,720 --> 01:29:11,680
Speaker 1: mentioned that d Hop drop because I just haven't seen

1878
01:29:11,760 --> 01:29:15,519
Speaker 1: Mahomes so frustrated. He was so frustrated about Awanya Morris penalty.

1879
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,280
Speaker 1: That's another problem that's happening. A lot of pressure, four

1880
01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,400
Speaker 1: sacks against the Raiders, a lot of pressure a week ago.

1881
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,320
Speaker 1: And that sequence was crazy to me because Mahomes made

1882
01:29:24,360 --> 01:29:28,320
Speaker 1: two magical plays. One is under extreme pressure that he

1883
01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:30,479
Speaker 1: dumps off to Kareem Hunt and they end up losing

1884
01:29:30,600 --> 01:29:33,719
Speaker 1: five yards because his offensive line stinks, but he's magical.

1885
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,639
Speaker 1: And then the next play, same thing, the offensive lion stinks,

1886
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: he's magical, and it's a drop and you could just

1887
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: really see the frustration setting in a little bit. They

1888
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:44,559
Speaker 1: did get some good news, nick back that Hollywood Brown

1889
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:49,400
Speaker 1: is trending towards a week sixteen or week seventeen return,

1890
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: according to Ian Rappaport, So that's awesome and they can absolutely,

1891
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,080
Speaker 1: you know, play better, but they're not playing well and

1892
01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 1: they're lucky to have the number one seed right now.

1893
01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,200
Speaker 4: So last year, everybody's talked about this ad nauseam. Andy

1894
01:30:04,240 --> 01:30:06,360
Speaker 4: Reid mentioned it after they won the Super Bowl. The

1895
01:30:06,479 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 4: loss to the Chiefs or to the Raiders, excuse me

1896
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:11,080
Speaker 4: on Christmas was the moment they needed to wake up.

1897
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:12,840
Speaker 4: It was the moment where they realized, Okay, we got

1898
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 4: to be better, We're gonna be tougher, and they went

1899
01:30:14,200 --> 01:30:16,120
Speaker 4: on the run they win the Super Bowl. I kind

1900
01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:17,800
Speaker 4: of got that same feeling in this game, but not

1901
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,640
Speaker 4: for the same reasons, mainly because suddenly they were like

1902
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,280
Speaker 4: the Raiders were applying pressure. It's almost as if they

1903
01:30:23,320 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 4: were shocked that the Raiders were suddenly in the lead,

1904
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 4: and they were. At one point they showed somebody in

1905
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,080
Speaker 4: the siland I don't know if it was Wanny Morris

1906
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:29,640
Speaker 4: or somebody else that just said wake the f up,

1907
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:32,479
Speaker 4: like shouting in his teammates on the sideline, like, hey, yeah,

1908
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,639
Speaker 4: we're the Chiefs. We've won back to back Super Bowls,

1909
01:30:34,680 --> 01:30:36,519
Speaker 4: but just because we put these uniforms on doesn't mean

1910
01:30:36,560 --> 01:30:38,519
Speaker 4: we're just gonna go win. Wake up now. So I

1911
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 4: wonder if this is gonna be the wake up call

1912
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 4: for them over the next five weeks going into the

1913
01:30:42,960 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 4: playoffs or not, because there are so many other problems

1914
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 4: that you guys just described and explained that I don't

1915
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:51,360
Speaker 4: think it fixed quickly. But then again, it's the Chiefs,

1916
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,920
Speaker 4: and all I've been taught over the last two years

1917
01:30:53,960 --> 01:30:55,320
Speaker 4: and really over the last four or five years is

1918
01:30:55,400 --> 01:30:57,400
Speaker 4: that they're gonna be there. So until they're not, I

1919
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 4: won't believe otherwise. I just I need to see more

1920
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 4: a greater sense of urgency from them than.

1921
01:31:02,920 --> 01:31:04,639
Speaker 1: I right, But I kind of thought like the being

1922
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: a two point conversion away against a really banged that

1923
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 1: Bucks team was the wake up call. And then the

1924
01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,960
Speaker 1: Broncos game where they're trailing and need a block kick

1925
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,000
Speaker 1: that's Is that a wake up call?

1926
01:31:14,040 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 2: How about when you lose by nine to the Bills?

1927
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Is that a wake up call?

1928
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:18,879
Speaker 1: You go, you get at the end of the Panthers

1929
01:31:18,920 --> 01:31:20,559
Speaker 1: and it's like, this is a stream games where they're

1930
01:31:20,600 --> 01:31:22,640
Speaker 1: not playing their best, but we know that they can

1931
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,160
Speaker 1: turn around. I just think right now it's absolutely fair

1932
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,519
Speaker 1: to say that they're not playing at a super Bowl

1933
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,160
Speaker 1: winning level.

1934
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:31,560
Speaker 3: That's all I just get concerned with the idea of

1935
01:31:31,640 --> 01:31:33,960
Speaker 3: turning it around when the players that you need to

1936
01:31:34,000 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 3: turn it around are are Wanya Morris right like yeah,

1937
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:43,519
Speaker 3: and Joshua Williams like I'm my concerns aren't Patrick Mahomes

1938
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 3: and Chris JOm or guys and Travis Kelsey that have

1939
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:47,840
Speaker 3: won all these Super Bowls and do the things that

1940
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,000
Speaker 3: we count on them to do. It's it's the guys

1941
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: that we haven't necessarily seen executed at a high level,

1942
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:55,920
Speaker 3: and with so much turnover, especially at the tackle position

1943
01:31:56,040 --> 01:32:00,559
Speaker 3: throughout Patrick Mahomes's career. I just wonder why so hard

1944
01:32:00,600 --> 01:32:03,519
Speaker 3: to be cheap at this position with this quarterback. It

1945
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:06,160
Speaker 3: just it seems counterproductive and it's a thing that has

1946
01:32:06,200 --> 01:32:07,960
Speaker 3: been going for way too long.

1947
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,240
Speaker 4: Because they've gotten away with it.

1948
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,519
Speaker 1: That's why, well, you know, it's a high It's one

1949
01:32:12,520 --> 01:32:15,200
Speaker 1: of the highest paid offensive lines in the league, including

1950
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,080
Speaker 1: Juwan Taylor who's at right tackle and is almost as

1951
01:32:18,120 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 1: big a problem as Morris Morrison, Sue Matteo where Day

1952
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 1: two picks, it's not I mean, those are real investments.

1953
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 2: It just they haven't worked.

1954
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 1: My issue is more that they're trying to plug a

1955
01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:32,559
Speaker 1: lot of different holes the defensive backfield. Now the run

1956
01:32:32,640 --> 01:32:37,240
Speaker 1: defenses is struggling the tackles and I think team speed

1957
01:32:37,680 --> 01:32:40,479
Speaker 1: that said Pacheco gets back in this game gives them

1958
01:32:40,479 --> 01:32:42,360
Speaker 1: a little bit of juice. I think they'll trust them

1959
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,559
Speaker 1: to have more and more work. Hollywood. Brown's coming back.

1960
01:32:47,240 --> 01:32:48,880
Speaker 1: We don't need to panic either. They have they have

1961
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 1: some interesting games down the stretch. No, they're not playing

1962
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:53,880
Speaker 1: any other superpowers, but they do have the Chargers and

1963
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:57,479
Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Steelers down the stretch in their

1964
01:32:57,479 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: final five games, so they will be tested. Now, since

1965
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: we last talked, there's been a coaching change, and I

1966
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: guess we could have guessed done this if you listen

1967
01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:12,760
Speaker 1: to my recap with Will Gavin late on Thanksgiving night.

1968
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: We wondered if Matt Iberflus would make it, and he

1969
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:19,280
Speaker 1: went and had a press conference the next day, so

1970
01:33:19,439 --> 01:33:22,880
Speaker 1: we thought he made it, and then he didn't make it.

1971
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:27,000
Speaker 1: Thomas Brown will be the interim head coach of the Bears.

1972
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,800
Speaker 1: Not often we talk about a coach being fired on

1973
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:33,360
Speaker 1: the Sunday Night recap. That happened a day before Nick,

1974
01:33:33,640 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: a couple days before Nick, but the timing of it

1975
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,160
Speaker 1: was a first in Chicago Bears history, it's one of

1976
01:33:40,200 --> 01:33:43,400
Speaker 1: the most interesting jobs that's going to be open because

1977
01:33:43,400 --> 01:33:45,559
Speaker 1: of Caleb Williams. And it just felt like from all

1978
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:49,800
Speaker 1: the reporting there in Detroit that the situation between the

1979
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:53,600
Speaker 1: players and Ibra Flus and their frustration probably made it

1980
01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:56,879
Speaker 1: untenable where Ryan Poles or whoever really made this decision

1981
01:33:56,920 --> 01:33:58,600
Speaker 1: had no other choice but to make a change for

1982
01:33:58,600 --> 01:33:59,400
Speaker 1: the last five weeks.

1983
01:33:59,520 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 4: And it was the fashion which they lost that game

1984
01:34:01,200 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 4: on Thanksgiving that really I think was the final straw

1985
01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 4: for them to essentially make him walk the plank before

1986
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,000
Speaker 4: getting rid of him, which is what they did on Friday.

1987
01:34:08,160 --> 01:34:12,040
Speaker 4: And now, you know, my friend at Fox Sports, Car Vitally,

1988
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 4: I thought, summarized it very well, which is that, you know,

1989
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 4: the Bears broke trend by you know, they broke the

1990
01:34:17,000 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 4: standard by firing coach in season for the first time

1991
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:21,280
Speaker 4: in their one hundred and five year history as a franchise.

1992
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,280
Speaker 4: And they're gonna have to continue to break trends in

1993
01:34:23,400 --> 01:34:24,960
Speaker 4: order to get to where they want to go. They

1994
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 4: have to continue to operating in a fashion that they

1995
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,120
Speaker 4: haven't over the last I don't know, ten, fifteen, twenty,

1996
01:34:29,200 --> 01:34:31,880
Speaker 4: twenty five years. And maybe this is the first step.

1997
01:34:32,040 --> 01:34:32,160
Speaker 15: You know.

1998
01:34:32,280 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 4: Caleb talked about this last week about how you know,

1999
01:34:35,120 --> 01:34:36,560
Speaker 4: if he had Thomas Brown as a zo set the

2000
01:34:36,600 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 4: whole year, where could they have been Because you know,

2001
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 4: the familiarity, the reps and everything that you get in

2002
01:34:40,560 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 4: training camp and early in the season and just the

2003
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,120
Speaker 4: time spent together. You can't get that back when you

2004
01:34:45,160 --> 01:34:46,920
Speaker 4: make a change in season, and you've seen them take

2005
01:34:46,960 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 4: that jump. So I think we knew this was going

2006
01:34:48,920 --> 01:34:50,600
Speaker 4: to happen eventually. The fact that it happened in the

2007
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,040
Speaker 4: season doesn't really make a big difference for me. If anything,

2008
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:55,719
Speaker 4: it buys you extra time to start searching the coaching market.

2009
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,679
Speaker 4: You try out Thomas Brown in this job, you figure

2010
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:00,599
Speaker 4: out where you want to go from here and make

2011
01:35:00,680 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 4: the best of this season. It could have been worse.

2012
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 4: You could have waited, I guess, until the end of

2013
01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,640
Speaker 4: the season and not gotten that head start. But we

2014
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:07,759
Speaker 4: knew this was inevitable based on how they were playing.

2015
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out to the Flues. The season of Flu's

2016
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,919
Speaker 1: glow up. It was fun while it lasted. Yeah, Ultimately,

2017
01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,320
Speaker 1: the fashion of it, all, the hair, the beard of

2018
01:35:18,439 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: all of it.

2019
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,320
Speaker 3: It didn't necessarily mean anything, but it gave us something

2020
01:35:23,360 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 3: to be excited about and the idea that hey, this

2021
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,680
Speaker 3: is going to be something different. But No. Five and

2022
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:33,240
Speaker 3: nineteen during his run as the Chicago Bears head coach

2023
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 3: in one score games, and really it wasn't just the

2024
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 3: way that it happened. It was the timeout and the

2025
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:41,920
Speaker 3: not calling the timeout, the fact that he finishes his

2026
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:47,920
Speaker 3: career without that final timeout going out there, and it

2027
01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 3: seemed like between the quarterback, the coach, the play caller,

2028
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 3: the players standing next to him during that process, nobody

2029
01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 3: knew what was going on, like the facilitation of how

2030
01:35:59,280 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 3: things are supposed to operate from everything from the offseason

2031
01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:05,040
Speaker 3: and being able to evaluate Shane Waldron as a play caller.

2032
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:10,040
Speaker 3: Decisions were always made too late, and Matt Eberflues finally

2033
01:36:10,120 --> 01:36:10,360
Speaker 3: just ran.

2034
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:12,720
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever really had an idea of

2035
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: how to make the offense and coach up offense. And

2036
01:36:16,400 --> 01:36:19,880
Speaker 1: you feel bad because like, yeah, I listened to Chris

2037
01:36:20,000 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 1: Long talk about this too, and I thought he was

2038
01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:23,840
Speaker 1: even handed talking about the Caleb Williams part of it too.

2039
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,120
Speaker 2: And it's like, it does suck if.

2040
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:28,600
Speaker 1: Your career if your Matt eberfluse ends that way, and

2041
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:33,599
Speaker 1: It's going to be remembered forever. And Caleb Williams needs

2042
01:36:33,680 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: to know not to be changing plays with sixteen seconds left.

2043
01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:39,640
Speaker 1: It's like an out, like he will never do that

2044
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:41,680
Speaker 1: again in his career. But you could also point to

2045
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,760
Speaker 1: that being like partly on the coaching that but no

2046
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: one was ready for that moment, most most importantly, Matty

2047
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 1: Refluse was never ready for those moments, no matter who

2048
01:36:51,320 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 1: was the quarterback.

2049
01:36:52,280 --> 01:36:54,519
Speaker 3: The quarterbacks head just got bounced off the ground. He's

2050
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:56,080
Speaker 3: getting a play call in his ear. He's trying to

2051
01:36:56,120 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 3: get guys with ten seconds to go. Players besides Matt

2052
01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:04,280
Speaker 3: Eberflus or jumping up and down screaming. Four seconds elapse

2053
01:37:04,680 --> 01:37:07,640
Speaker 3: after that before the ball gets snapped. During any one

2054
01:37:07,680 --> 01:37:09,439
Speaker 3: of those four seconds, he could have called time out.

2055
01:37:09,479 --> 01:37:10,160
Speaker 3: He chills not to.

2056
01:37:10,680 --> 01:37:14,160
Speaker 1: It's such a brutal way for a coaching career to

2057
01:37:14,280 --> 01:37:17,960
Speaker 1: And I'm curious if Ryan Poles will be making the

2058
01:37:18,200 --> 01:37:22,639
Speaker 1: next head coach hiring. The idea is he probably will.

2059
01:37:22,760 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 1: I asked around about this. People don't think he has

2060
01:37:25,200 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: any chance that he would be gone. It's murky of

2061
01:37:28,360 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: how much was Eberflus his decision to hire or not.

2062
01:37:32,680 --> 01:37:34,280
Speaker 1: You know he was hired before him, but in the

2063
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:38,120
Speaker 1: same you know, round of cycles, and maybe he got

2064
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:40,920
Speaker 1: a chance to kind of okay, rubber stamp that hiring,

2065
01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:44,000
Speaker 1: but maybe it wasn't really his guy. There was pretty

2066
01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:49,160
Speaker 1: reliable reporting that he stood on the table and said

2067
01:37:49,240 --> 01:37:51,960
Speaker 1: he believed Matt Eberflus was the man to do it

2068
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: coming back this year. And I think there is a

2069
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,959
Speaker 1: there is a case to be made that's a fireable

2070
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:03,040
Speaker 1: offense and that you're we're redoing this whole cycle where

2071
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:06,439
Speaker 1: the coach and the GM and the quarterback are not aligned.

2072
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,879
Speaker 1: That just keeps happening over and over and over in Chicago.

2073
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: And so if you're gonna let Ryan Poles stay, let

2074
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:18,120
Speaker 1: him truly choose the coach. Don't don't be getting yourself

2075
01:38:18,200 --> 01:38:21,519
Speaker 1: involved that much on an ownership level. Let Ryan Poles

2076
01:38:21,560 --> 01:38:24,000
Speaker 1: do it, because if it ends up being the ownership coach,

2077
01:38:24,880 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 1: then you're gonna be firing Ryan Poles in a year

2078
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,360
Speaker 1: or two and we're just gonna like and the coach

2079
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,040
Speaker 1: will still be there, and we're just gonna keep doing

2080
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:32,719
Speaker 1: this thing over and over and over again. It's happened

2081
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:36,080
Speaker 1: for fifteen years. It's an organizational thing. You can see

2082
01:38:36,160 --> 01:38:39,000
Speaker 1: certain organizations make the same mistakes over and over, and

2083
01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: that's what worries me, even though Poles has had a

2084
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,439
Speaker 1: solid track record and obviously had had the trade that

2085
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,880
Speaker 1: got him Caleb Williams, I don't know. I just just

2086
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:54,960
Speaker 1: just let let the GM do his job. That's gonna

2087
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: be it for the Patrick Claybond portion of the program,

2088
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,160
Speaker 1: always one of my favorite portions of the program, the

2089
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,120
Speaker 1: biggest portion of the program.

2090
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 3: In terms of size. Yes, I guess they'll wait here

2091
01:39:07,000 --> 01:39:07,320
Speaker 3: on the Chris.

2092
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,040
Speaker 2: Was it importance in importance?

2093
01:39:09,080 --> 01:39:11,400
Speaker 1: Frankly, if we're only talking two segments and I had

2094
01:39:11,439 --> 01:39:14,479
Speaker 1: to lose either the whole thing before Sunday Night Football

2095
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,760
Speaker 1: or Sunday, I will lose Sunday Night Football. But I

2096
01:39:17,800 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: can't wait to talk a little Sunday Night Football with

2097
01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:21,479
Speaker 1: Nick Showca you guys enjoy that.

2098
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,479
Speaker 2: We will all right to Sunday Night.

2099
01:39:23,680 --> 01:39:24,640
Speaker 6: First and goal from the.

2100
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:28,640
Speaker 16: Seven, Alan under center takes a snab quick hitter thrown.

2101
01:39:28,479 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 4: Behind, but somehow caught and now lateral to Alan and

2102
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 4: reaching for the pylon.

2103
01:39:33,920 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 11: Are you kidding me?

2104
01:39:35,320 --> 01:39:39,920
Speaker 6: It's a touchdown? Unbelievable.

2105
01:39:40,479 --> 01:39:44,799
Speaker 1: A catch by Amari Cooper, a lateral to Josh Allen

2106
01:39:45,120 --> 01:39:47,160
Speaker 1: and he rubs the remaining five.

2107
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:51,120
Speaker 6: Yards for the score. Have you ever seen that one before?

2108
01:39:51,960 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 1: I have not. Chris Brown of w GR in Buffalo

2109
01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:00,879
Speaker 1: Josh Allen with a receiving touchdown and a passing touchdown

2110
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,800
Speaker 1: on the very same play he had in a rushing

2111
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:07,960
Speaker 1: touchdown later in the second half. To complete the trifecta.

2112
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,600
Speaker 1: He goes over one hundred yards on the ground. No

2113
01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:14,280
Speaker 1: one is playing better football right now at quarterback than

2114
01:40:14,439 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen. Thirty five to ten, the Bills pulverize the

2115
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,000
Speaker 1: forty nine ers in the snow.

2116
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:24,439
Speaker 2: They are built for it. Shookye.

2117
01:40:24,720 --> 01:40:26,720
Speaker 1: I mean a guy who can pass, a guy who

2118
01:40:26,800 --> 01:40:29,519
Speaker 1: can catch, although it was a lateral, A guy who

2119
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:32,880
Speaker 1: can get engaged to a Hollywood starlet during his bye

2120
01:40:32,920 --> 01:40:35,479
Speaker 1: week and then show up and be the hero on

2121
01:40:35,680 --> 01:40:36,799
Speaker 1: Sunday Night football.

2122
01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:38,640
Speaker 2: I mean, what can't this man do?

2123
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:42,519
Speaker 4: My guy's just winning in every facet, in every single way.

2124
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:46,439
Speaker 4: Passing touchdown, rushing touchdown, receiving touchdown, it all. He's just winning.

2125
01:40:46,720 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 4: And the Bills are just winning. They're ten and two.

2126
01:40:48,680 --> 01:40:50,519
Speaker 4: Now they take down the forty nine ers with the

2127
01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 4: ultimate home field advantage of incredible amounts of snow in

2128
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,400
Speaker 4: western New York and just how that's like kind of

2129
01:40:56,439 --> 01:40:59,080
Speaker 4: a neutralizer on the field, except for people like Josh Allen,

2130
01:40:59,120 --> 01:41:02,280
Speaker 4: who are he is essentially a legitimate like buck, like

2131
01:41:02,360 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 4: he's a deer running out there, so he's built for

2132
01:41:04,720 --> 01:41:07,480
Speaker 4: the snow and to make plays like that. A lopsided

2133
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,439
Speaker 4: victory for them kind of could have anticipated before the

2134
01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,559
Speaker 4: snow got involved. Now you just see the difference between

2135
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:14,800
Speaker 4: these two teams, one team heading up, the other one

2136
01:41:15,240 --> 01:41:18,160
Speaker 4: heading down, and that play, I'll tell you what you said,

2137
01:41:18,160 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 4: you've never seen it before. I think Marcus Mariota once

2138
01:41:21,000 --> 01:41:22,479
Speaker 4: did that off a deflective pass one time.

2139
01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,880
Speaker 1: That's a little different, though a little different, you know,

2140
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,280
Speaker 1: that's the deflection. I just didn't know the ruling that

2141
01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:33,040
Speaker 1: you get credit for receiving touchdown after getting the lateral.

2142
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: And the still shot of Alan flying through the air

2143
01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:41,519
Speaker 1: with the snow, it is just beautiful. And I know

2144
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 1: the people who say, I just want football to be

2145
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,080
Speaker 1: played at its highest level, and ultimately the snow is

2146
01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:53,240
Speaker 1: kind of a distraction and it prevents to, you know,

2147
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:55,560
Speaker 1: people from playing their best. I kind of get that

2148
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,599
Speaker 1: in the biggest of spots, but I like variety shook

2149
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,679
Speaker 1: in life, So go in these games. It's not gonna

2150
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:05,120
Speaker 1: be every single game, but sprinkle it in. Occasionally you

2151
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 1: find a team like the forty nine ers who just

2152
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: are not ready for it. They came out of the

2153
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:12,479
Speaker 1: gates looking ready for it, but they were slipping inside

2154
01:42:12,479 --> 01:42:14,720
Speaker 1: and all over the place. Three huge fumbles in this

2155
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: in the game, brock Purty, not a snow guy game.

2156
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:22,040
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and this Bill's running attack definitely snow guys.

2157
01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, which is crazy because party definitely played some nasty

2158
01:42:25,040 --> 01:42:27,240
Speaker 4: weather games at Ames, you know, Iowa when he was

2159
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:29,120
Speaker 4: there in state back then, god knows he was there forever,

2160
01:42:29,200 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 4: he had to have played at least one bad weather game.

2161
01:42:31,080 --> 01:42:33,760
Speaker 4: But it is That's that's essentially what this is is.

2162
01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,000
Speaker 4: You know, this is why I think that football, you know,

2163
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,680
Speaker 4: you talk about being played at the highest level. I

2164
01:42:39,760 --> 01:42:42,120
Speaker 4: think that it's not just for variety. This is football

2165
01:42:42,120 --> 01:42:44,479
Speaker 4: in its purest form. That shot of Josh Allen diving

2166
01:42:44,560 --> 01:42:46,120
Speaker 4: with the snow all around him, and there's a guy

2167
01:42:46,160 --> 01:42:47,880
Speaker 4: in an NFL beanie looks like he's part of the

2168
01:42:48,080 --> 01:42:51,320
Speaker 4: like the ball Boys or something, just staring intently watching

2169
01:42:51,439 --> 01:42:53,920
Speaker 4: magic happen before his eyes. That is football. How can

2170
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:56,160
Speaker 4: you not fall in love with that? That's fantastic. That's

2171
01:42:56,160 --> 01:42:57,960
Speaker 4: gonna be framed in Canton. I'm gonna go to Canton

2172
01:42:57,960 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 4: this summer. It's gonna be on a frame somewhere. He's

2173
01:42:59,400 --> 01:43:01,839
Speaker 4: gonna be on and it should be because that's football

2174
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 4: at its core.

2175
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,719
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy is the forty nine ers actually

2176
01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,000
Speaker 1: ran the ball quite well in this game. Christian McCaffrey

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01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,560
Speaker 1: leaves with a knee injury. Kyle Shanahan announces after the

2178
01:43:12,640 --> 01:43:17,320
Speaker 1: game that it's a potentially season ending knee injury. Really

2179
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:23,320
Speaker 1: disappointing for McCaffrey and really disappointing obviously for the forty

2180
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: nine ers, who get Perty back but did not have

2181
01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,719
Speaker 1: Bosa back or missing five starters on defense, we're missing

2182
01:43:30,040 --> 01:43:33,760
Speaker 1: Trent Williams, and yet they actually ran seven point six

2183
01:43:33,840 --> 01:43:36,040
Speaker 1: yards per carry when they gave it to McCaffrey. Jordan

2184
01:43:36,120 --> 01:43:38,760
Speaker 1: Mason had a number of positive runs early in this game,

2185
01:43:38,840 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 1: ends up thirteen for seventy eight. Their success rate is

2186
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:44,720
Speaker 1: really high, and they're setting up for a field goal

2187
01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:47,439
Speaker 1: to make it seven to six about midway through the

2188
01:43:47,520 --> 01:43:49,719
Speaker 1: second quarter, and they're moving the ball and it seems

2189
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:52,960
Speaker 1: like a normal football game. They missed the kick and

2190
01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 1: the very next play Cook takes it. What it was

2191
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,720
Speaker 1: sixty five yards for a touchdown. And after that it

2192
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 1: was just as one sided as it gets. And you

2193
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:06,799
Speaker 1: just think, if Josh Allen and the Bills are hosting

2194
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,920
Speaker 1: games in the snow or in tough weather, he really

2195
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:11,600
Speaker 1: is built for it.

2196
01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 2: Now, they didn't try to throw the ball too much.

2197
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,320
Speaker 1: He only threw it seventeen times, but he ripped a

2198
01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:20,320
Speaker 1: couple passes right through the air, whereas Purdy like guys

2199
01:44:20,479 --> 01:44:23,040
Speaker 1: were slipping. He had a couple decent throws, but you know,

2200
01:44:23,520 --> 01:44:26,479
Speaker 1: Deebo's falling over all over the place and fumbles it.

2201
01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: Purty fumbles it because he can't hold on to it.

2202
01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:31,679
Speaker 1: He throws the ball eighteen times for ninety four yards.

2203
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,080
Speaker 1: Any penetration by defense happened by Buffalo in this game.

2204
01:44:35,120 --> 01:44:38,280
Speaker 1: Their offensive line was much better, and they're just they're

2205
01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,680
Speaker 1: just a tough team. And it's one reason why I

2206
01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:42,519
Speaker 1: think they have a real chance to win the Super

2207
01:44:42,520 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 1: Bowl this year and make my prediction look good. It's

2208
01:44:45,560 --> 01:44:49,800
Speaker 1: because every aspect of the game they can excel in,

2209
01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:53,600
Speaker 1: whether that's running, passing, run, defense, or pass defense, and

2210
01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:56,240
Speaker 1: depending on the week, they can do different things. And

2211
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,600
Speaker 1: they've just been through so many wars that games like

2212
01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,800
Speaker 1: this it's like no problem for them. They are the

2213
01:45:00,880 --> 01:45:04,479
Speaker 1: AFC East champions here with five weeks left of the season.

2214
01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:05,080
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

2215
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:07,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, Week thirteen clinchers. It's been a long time since

2216
01:45:07,640 --> 01:45:10,080
Speaker 4: that's happened that quickly. But that's also goes to show

2217
01:45:10,120 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 4: what the AFCAS East is. The Bills are the superior team,

2218
01:45:13,000 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 4: way more superior than any of us. He anticipated them

2219
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:17,040
Speaker 4: being this year. Yeah, that's who they are. But it

2220
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:18,680
Speaker 4: makes me think about two things. I think back to

2221
01:45:18,760 --> 01:45:20,560
Speaker 4: when the Bengals beat the Bills in the playoffs a

2222
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 4: few years ago in a snowy game, and Bills fans

2223
01:45:23,920 --> 01:45:26,599
Speaker 4: complained about the snow neutralizing their pass rush, and that's

2224
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 4: why the Bengals were able to beat them. That's the

2225
01:45:28,360 --> 01:45:30,000
Speaker 4: beauty of a snow game is that it neutralized the

2226
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:31,720
Speaker 4: pass rush. You look at the pressure right here. Five

2227
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 4: pressures for the nine Ers, seven pressures for the Bills.

2228
01:45:33,520 --> 01:45:35,479
Speaker 4: There's a clip of Josh Allen, i think in the

2229
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,120
Speaker 4: third and fourth quarter dropping back and he's got all

2230
01:45:37,240 --> 01:45:39,120
Speaker 4: day to throw and just rips one right down the

2231
01:45:39,160 --> 01:45:41,240
Speaker 4: middle of the field for a completion inside the red zone,

2232
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:43,600
Speaker 4: and I was like blown away by the fact that

2233
01:45:43,680 --> 01:45:46,040
Speaker 4: he just could stand there and just pat and bounce

2234
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,439
Speaker 4: and patent bounce until he found somebody. Just because of

2235
01:45:48,439 --> 01:45:50,439
Speaker 4: the snow. It's also because of this offensive line, which

2236
01:45:50,520 --> 01:45:53,679
Speaker 4: is getting better and is coming around. But it also

2237
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,120
Speaker 4: speaks to their evolution as an offense since Joe Brady

2238
01:45:57,160 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 4: took over last year, which is that they figured out

2239
01:45:58,960 --> 01:46:01,240
Speaker 4: how to run the ball traditionally. Instead of just relying

2240
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:03,000
Speaker 4: on Josh Allen as the only runner on the field,

2241
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:05,320
Speaker 4: they can now lean on James Cook fourteen for one

2242
01:46:05,360 --> 01:46:07,320
Speaker 4: oh seven, Ray Davis eleven for sixty three. Each of

2243
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,880
Speaker 4: them had a touchdown. Josh Allen Chipson three for eighteen.

2244
01:46:09,960 --> 01:46:12,080
Speaker 4: He has a touchdown. This is a team that you

2245
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:14,080
Speaker 4: just said can beat you in a number of different ways.

2246
01:46:14,880 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 4: This is the way that they can win in a

2247
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:18,000
Speaker 4: snow game at home of the playoffs, and they get it.

2248
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,240
Speaker 4: And right now they're in one of the prime positions

2249
01:46:20,280 --> 01:46:21,960
Speaker 4: to get the AFC's top seed, or at least be

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01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,599
Speaker 4: in contention for it. So everything's coming up bills right now.

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01:46:25,240 --> 01:46:28,240
Speaker 1: It is a team that I look forward to watching

2252
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they technically deserve to be AFC

2253
01:46:32,439 --> 01:46:34,760
Speaker 1: East champions. I'm just gonna have like a little point

2254
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: of order. How can they be deemed AFC East champions

2255
01:46:38,200 --> 01:46:41,200
Speaker 1: if they've never even played against Drake May I mean, oh,

2256
01:46:41,400 --> 01:46:44,120
Speaker 1: just well, I feel like they got two more games

2257
01:46:44,160 --> 01:46:46,200
Speaker 1: down the stretch. Everyone's saying the Bills have an easy

2258
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:48,799
Speaker 1: schedule down in the stretch. They actually haven't played the Patriots.

2259
01:46:49,040 --> 01:46:51,080
Speaker 1: How can you be the division champ if you haven't

2260
01:46:51,120 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 1: even played the Patriots.

2261
01:46:53,160 --> 01:46:55,599
Speaker 4: Well, we're gonna get that twice here on the stretch,

2262
01:46:55,640 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 4: and I expect them to win both games.

2263
01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:58,760
Speaker 1: It can't go any worse than it did at the

2264
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:00,960
Speaker 1: end of the Belichick era, even when they were making

2265
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. They literally didn't get a stop back then.

2266
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:08,400
Speaker 1: This team is absolutely awesome. I can't believe. A thing

2267
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:13,040
Speaker 1: that actually happened in Buffalo tonight was Josh Allen and

2268
01:47:13,120 --> 01:47:16,920
Speaker 1: Sean McDermot doing snow angels on the field after the

2269
01:47:17,040 --> 01:47:20,639
Speaker 1: game together. That's that's what you know things are going

2270
01:47:21,120 --> 01:47:24,880
Speaker 1: well for the Bills. Fun week, fun game, Yes, over,

2271
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 1: I believe twenty inches of snow around the stadium. It

2272
01:47:28,479 --> 01:47:30,960
Speaker 1: was up to three feet in some areas of Buffalo,

2273
01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:33,200
Speaker 1: and yeah, a couple inches were happening. A lot of

2274
01:47:33,240 --> 01:47:36,519
Speaker 1: the fans at the game were just standing the whole

2275
01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:41,920
Speaker 1: time because they couldn't sit down. Very cool, and at

2276
01:47:41,960 --> 01:47:44,719
Speaker 1: this point it's not you can't even say long tortured

2277
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:45,479
Speaker 1: Bills fans.

2278
01:47:45,880 --> 01:47:49,680
Speaker 2: We got Eric Roberts back here. Who's you know, a

2279
01:47:50,160 --> 01:47:51,600
Speaker 2: fan of a Dodgers.

2280
01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:53,439
Speaker 1: Winning the Super Bowl and he's been rooting for one

2281
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:54,439
Speaker 1: of the best teams in the NFL.

2282
01:47:54,439 --> 01:47:56,000
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear about tortured. You guys have

2283
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 2: been good.

2284
01:47:56,600 --> 01:47:58,760
Speaker 18: I was a seven or years tortured. You thought you

2285
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:00,680
Speaker 18: gotta be talking about like my niece and they only

2286
01:48:00,760 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 18: know Josh Allen. I was out the Nathan Peterman five

2287
01:48:03,439 --> 01:48:07,000
Speaker 18: or seven. Come, I've been around for the next generation

2288
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 18: of Bills fans. You can say, because all I'm.

2289
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:12,080
Speaker 1: Saying is this is an extended, beautiful run of success

2290
01:48:12,120 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 1: and then should only continue. But I do know that

2291
01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: until you make the Super Bowl, win a Super Bowl,

2292
01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:21,519
Speaker 1: it feels like something is missing. But these are the

2293
01:48:21,560 --> 01:48:23,200
Speaker 1: good old days, is what I'm trying to say.

2294
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:25,640
Speaker 2: So enjoy it. Oh, I am, trust me, I am,

2295
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:30,439
Speaker 2: and I am as well. This was a beautiful show. Choky.

2296
01:48:30,600 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 1: I want to get you back to everything that's going

2297
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 1: on in Cincinnati. Celebrate your calves victory. Get ready for

2298
01:48:37,200 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 1: Monday night football, because we're talking about your Brownie is

2299
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:43,120
Speaker 1: in a big spot once again. I mean, I'm fine

2300
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:45,400
Speaker 1: with the Browns being in primetime compared to these forty

2301
01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 1: nine Ers games. Are there any coming up that we

2302
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:50,679
Speaker 1: need to get out? Week seventeen, they're playing the Lions.

2303
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:52,479
Speaker 1: They're not going to flex them out of that. We

2304
01:48:52,560 --> 01:48:57,000
Speaker 1: got Week fifteen against the Rams. It's crazy how done

2305
01:48:57,479 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 1: this forty nine Ers team feels because of the injuries.

2306
01:49:00,880 --> 01:49:05,200
Speaker 1: It's the first time since two thousand and fifteen that

2307
01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,680
Speaker 1: they've lost twenty five by twenty five points and back

2308
01:49:07,720 --> 01:49:09,679
Speaker 1: to back weeks, only the fourth time in the history

2309
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:13,439
Speaker 1: of this proud franchise that's ever happened. And they do

2310
01:49:13,560 --> 01:49:15,280
Speaker 1: not feel like they are coming back from this down

2311
01:49:15,320 --> 01:49:18,240
Speaker 1: two games and the injuries are are just too much.

2312
01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're mounting. Just the hits keep coming. Soon as

2313
01:49:21,720 --> 01:49:23,960
Speaker 4: you get one guy back, you lose another, you lose another,

2314
01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 4: you lose another. I mean, it's it's too steep of

2315
01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,040
Speaker 4: a hill to climb. And ill An NFC West is

2316
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,000
Speaker 4: still very much for the taking, but they don't feel

2317
01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,160
Speaker 4: like a team that's on the rise. And it's unfortunate

2318
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:34,040
Speaker 4: for a team that made the Super Bowl and lost

2319
01:49:34,080 --> 01:49:36,200
Speaker 4: in heartbreaking fashion overtime last year, but that's just the

2320
01:49:36,240 --> 01:49:37,080
Speaker 4: fact of the matter with them.

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01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:37,320
Speaker 10: No.

2322
01:49:37,479 --> 01:49:39,240
Speaker 1: I saw the Bears on the schedule next week and

2323
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:42,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, well, that's a good spot. But it's a

2324
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:45,680
Speaker 1: good SIoT for both teams. So that's it for our

2325
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:49,519
Speaker 1: recap show Week thirteen in the books. As I said,

2326
01:49:49,560 --> 01:49:52,120
Speaker 1: shooky and I will be back on Monday night. Talk

2327
01:49:52,120 --> 01:49:55,080
Speaker 1: a little Browns talk, a little Broncos talk, a little

2328
01:49:55,280 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 1: news of the day. I want to thank everyone that

2329
01:49:59,640 --> 01:50:02,120
Speaker 1: helped out the Thanksgiving week, a lot of extra hours.

2330
01:50:02,320 --> 01:50:05,160
Speaker 1: Eric behind the glass, Chris doing a bang up job.

2331
01:50:05,240 --> 01:50:09,479
Speaker 1: When when Josh Allen is going snow Beast, snow Angels,

2332
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,679
Speaker 1: you know football is back.