1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,079 Speaker 1: The Supreme Court's term is winding down. The Court issued 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: several opinions today and there was a first. Justice Neil 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Gorcich has issued his first Supreme Court opinion, a unanimous 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: decision in favor of a company involved in a debt 5 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: collection dispute. My co host and Bloomberg Supreme Court reporter 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: Greg's store is at the Court. Greg tell us about 7 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: the case, Hi, June. Uh, Well, this case has to 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: do with who is a debt collector under this law 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: knows the Fair Debt Collection Practices Act, And in particular, 10 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,479 Speaker 1: it has to do with whether a company that buys 11 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: a debt from another company meets the definition of debt 12 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:39,240 Speaker 1: collector under the law. And the Supreme Court's decision was unanimous. 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: They said, no, that is not what the statute says. Uh. 14 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: If you buy that from somebody else, you are and 15 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: you own the debt, you are not a debt collector. 16 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,479 Speaker 1: And before we go on the breaking news, the second 17 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: appeals court to rule against Trump's revised travel band. The 18 00:00:56,360 --> 00:01:00,480 Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has issued its decision against 19 00:01:00,600 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: Trump's travel band. That being the uh adding it to 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: the Fourth Circuit's opinion will have more on that later, Greg, Now, 21 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: some of the justices show more flair for writing than 22 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 1: others do um Gorsett started with talking about disruptive dinner 23 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: time calls. What what about his writing style. Yeah, he 24 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,199 Speaker 1: certainly is a very readable opinion. He did did show, 25 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 1: as you said, some flair, and he also spent a 26 00:01:29,720 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: lot of time talking about rules of grammar and parts 27 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: of speech and and uh. To some degree, this case 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,479 Speaker 1: came down to the different difference between the past tense 29 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: and the past participle um, which of course makes for 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: for fascinating cocktail party conversation. But that that's consistent with 31 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: the way Neil Grocers has presented themselves as a judge 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: of somebody who cares a lot about statutory text, because that, 33 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: he says, a job of the courses to interpret what 34 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: Congress did, not to rewrite the statute the way we'd 35 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: like it to be written. Now, there was a unanimous 36 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: opinion written by Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg where the court 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: rule that federal citizenship rules violate the Constitution. Tell us 38 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: about that case, Yeah, this is this is a little 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: bit complicated, but but essentially these are people who are 40 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: born abroad with one parent who's an American and one 41 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: parent who's not. And what federal law has done was 42 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: to make it easier for somebody to claim US citizenship 43 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: if the parent who is an American was the mother. Uh, 44 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: if she was you know, if if somebody is born 45 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 1: to an American mother abroad, Uh, they can become a 46 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: citizen if she's just spent a year as a resident 47 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: of the US um sometime before before the birth um 48 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: And the Supreme Court said, the fact that there's a 49 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 1: longer requirement if the father is an American citizen, that 50 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: is unconstitutional. Uh. Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote the opinion. 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: She said, hang on a second, let me in this 52 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 1: quote because it's good. She called it studying Lee anachronistic um. 53 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: But she didn't give the plaintiff in the case exactly 54 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: what he wanted. I'll be happy to explain that to 55 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 1: you if you if you want to ask me, go ahead. 56 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,519 Speaker 1: What did the plantiff want wanted to the plantiff is 57 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: somebody who wanted to be uh declared a citizen because 58 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,679 Speaker 1: he's being threatened with deportation after being convicted of a 59 00:03:20,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: robbery and attempted murder. Uh. And the Supreme Court said No, 60 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: Normally we would fix the problem in that sort of way, 61 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: but here it looks like what Congress would have wanted 62 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: to do would be to make it harder for the 63 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: children of American mothers born abroad for them to become citizens. 64 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: So going forward that the court forward, the Court says, 65 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna make it harder for everybody to become a citizen, 66 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: and that's gonna take care of the equal protection problem 67 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: that we saw. And unfortunately for Mr Morales Santana, that 68 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: means he's very likely facing deportation. Now, we just heard 69 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 1: that the Ninth Circuit has ruled against Trump in the 70 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 1: travel band case, and a big issue before the Supreme 71 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: Court is the travel ban. Where does that stand? Yeah, 72 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: the fascinating timing today. Today is also the day for 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: the challengers to the band to submit their filings to 74 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court. The Trump administration, of course, recently appealed. 75 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,919 Speaker 1: They've also asked the court to immediately put the travel 76 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: ban in place. The Supreme Court could act any at 77 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: any time, although it's I'm surely now going to want 78 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: to take a little time to digest with the Ninth 79 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,239 Speaker 1: Circuit just did the reports are that the Ninth Circuit 80 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,719 Speaker 1: uh rule against the administration, but the Ninth Circuit, as 81 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: I understand it at this point, also said that there 82 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 1: is nothing that keeps the administration from from reviewing the 83 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 1: procedures for allowing people from these countries into the country. 84 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:53,960 Speaker 1: And the reason that's important is that was the whole, 85 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: the whole rationale for the travel ban in the first place. 86 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: The administration said we had to stop even uh, you know, 87 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to figure out whether we have have the proper procedures. 88 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: In the Ninth Circuit said no, you're not stopped from 89 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: doing that. So that changes the dynamic of the case 90 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 1: before the Supreme Court. And Greg just thirty seconds to go, 91 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,159 Speaker 1: as you know, Um, what's ahead for the rest of 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: the term, Well, if we could have some news on 93 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: the travel ban, that's the big thing everybody is watching. 94 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:29,160 Speaker 1: We have a big Church State case that we're also watching. Um, 95 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: there's a First Amendment case involving sex offenders. There's a 96 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 1: case involving a cross border shooting. So there are some 97 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: significant constitutional cases as well, but the travel ban is 98 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: really the main event. Watching to see how the court 99 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: handles that. All right, we know that you are there 100 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: watching for us. Thanks, so much that's Bloomberg News, Supreme Court, 101 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: Reborder and our co host Greg Store at Supreme Court