Speaker 1: What up, y'all? This is your main man, Memphis Bleak
Speaker 1: right here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, y'all you already know what it is.
Speaker 2: Yours truly back with another exclusive episode rock Solid Podcast
Speaker 2: Live at the Vote. And this one is a special
Speaker 2: episode y'all because we got a legend in the building
Speaker 2: straight from Brooklyn, Fork Green projects ball player.
Speaker 1: When you know, we talk about balling a lot, but.
Speaker 2: This is real balling, balling on both sides of the court,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Really from the trenches.
Speaker 2: Man. Let's welcome my god TG you know miss Taj
Speaker 2: Gibson in the month building right now, broag.
Speaker 3: Pleasure pleasure, pleasure man.
Speaker 2: Before we get in, so I gotta shout my guy,
Speaker 2: Missed and Kent they out out there for you know
Speaker 2: what it is, Man's my peoples, because you from the town.
Speaker 2: My guy is saying, I love it. Man, So yo,
Speaker 2: take me back the back in the day like Fort
Speaker 2: Green for you coming up, what was it like for you?
Speaker 3: It was amazing? Uh it was.
Speaker 4: It was chaotic and crazy, but amazing at the same
Speaker 4: time talk about it.
Speaker 1: The hoods the hood days was different, my g Like.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You can come outside, you can get beat up, have
Speaker 4: fun all in the same day, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: That's what That's what made the project so special. Like
Speaker 4: everybody U watched everybody, everybody's seen everybody grow up. I
Speaker 4: was just so special about it. Everybody was outside. Like
Speaker 4: that's the whole thing I missed about Old New York.
Speaker 4: Everybody who was inside.
Speaker 2: Yo, I blame I ain't gonna lie Man Bloombird. Did
Speaker 2: that man with the no lording when he came in
Speaker 2: and became the mayor, with the lord in law, he
Speaker 2: got every he packed everybody.
Speaker 1: That's about it. The Yeah, they only let Dykeman hang outside.
Speaker 3: Now they getting they getting after them too now.
Speaker 2: Are But Yo, basketball almost wasn't the path. I heard
Speaker 2: or I read somewhere that almost wasn't the path. When
Speaker 2: did you realize that, like the game could really change
Speaker 2: your life.
Speaker 3: Well, it happened.
Speaker 4: I think when I got around like eleven twelve years old.
Speaker 4: I used to We used to always take the bikes,
Speaker 4: and you know, we would ride across across, across the
Speaker 4: city like take Brooklyn Bridge, ride all to the Bronx
Speaker 4: like twenty thirty deep. We used to do that all
Speaker 4: the time, and then as time went on, you fall
Speaker 4: a lot, like you you hurting yourself a lot. Now
Speaker 4: I saw it again, like six seven six seven six eight,
Speaker 4: and I failed one more time. And I it was
Speaker 4: right before Jay Street and we was coming off that
Speaker 4: curve right there on Chillery.
Speaker 3: Not that I just can't do this no more, y'all.
Speaker 3: For real.
Speaker 4: I really sat back and I was like, I had
Speaker 4: like at least three hoodies on because it was freezing.
Speaker 4: I was like, yo, I look down at my feet.
Speaker 4: I was like, I can't do this no more, y'all.
Speaker 4: I'm too tall for this.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: They looked at me like that's when life really hit me.
Speaker 4: And I was like when I got back to the hood,
Speaker 4: I seen a few guys playing three on three and
Speaker 4: I just jumped in and that was my last time
Speaker 4: riding those bikes all the way across the city.
Speaker 3: And I learned my lesson.
Speaker 1: Man, that's what's up man from there?
Speaker 2: Man usc man, I mean, that's that's what was that like, Man,
Speaker 2: the college life. We was talking off Carara. I was
Speaker 2: talking to your peoples. You know what I mean, They
Speaker 2: ain't know we was special lab babies. He said, you
Speaker 2: ain't no special lab baby.
Speaker 3: We know that. Oh man.
Speaker 4: Uh, the stories we can tell about downtown Brooklyn in
Speaker 4: the public education system, we got hours to talk about.
Speaker 2: But yr wor wait, I just skipped something before we
Speaker 2: get into that.
Speaker 1: We went to Weston House, right, No.
Speaker 4: I went to Telecommunications for one year.
Speaker 2: You went to school, you know, got the peoples from
Speaker 2: the hood forad the Holy face, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: My Nigga Babba louis to school with them, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: My zone school was Eastern District, and I remember the
Speaker 4: New York Galucho was taking me out and they was
Speaker 4: trying to educate me on just transitioning me to Rice
Speaker 4: High School. So they were trying to just bust me
Speaker 4: all the way uptown. So that didn't fall through. Bought
Speaker 4: the bed was like, Yo, we got to school for you.
Speaker 4: And the whole thing with basketball is when you're good,
Speaker 4: they're gonna find a way to make.
Speaker 3: Sure you successful.
Speaker 4: And now I'll be honest with you, my grades wasn't
Speaker 4: all the way there.
Speaker 3: That's crazy.
Speaker 1: And I went to Easton too.
Speaker 4: Man, that was my Zone School and I was excited
Speaker 4: to go there, but my mom and the way how
Speaker 4: Brooklyn is, she was like, no, you can't go because
Speaker 4: my first my junior high school was one seventeen and
Speaker 4: I used to go to LG every day and once you,
Speaker 4: once you break, make it through that little neck of
Speaker 4: the woods that becomes family. I was ready to go,
Speaker 4: and my mom was like, Nah, you can't know. We
Speaker 4: gotta ship you. I'm gonna ship you away. Gals like, Yo,
Speaker 4: we're gonna get you up out of there. They sent
Speaker 4: me to California. Wo that's and I thought that would
Speaker 4: have been even even better. But when they shipped me
Speaker 4: to Cali, I went right into another whole other different
Speaker 4: spectrum of this hoods.
Speaker 2: Yo, straight up and real. That's how I felt my
Speaker 2: first time in La two. It's like, Yo, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: these niggas is banging out in for real, next level
Speaker 2: for real, Like now that's dope. So then USC experience, Man,
Speaker 2: what was that like?
Speaker 1: The college life?
Speaker 4: It was scary, you know what I'm saying. I was
Speaker 4: real scared, Like be honest with you, I didn't. I
Speaker 4: didn't have many friends and it was a new spectrum
Speaker 4: of life. I didn't really see too many Caucasians and
Speaker 4: different people like that. And just going to college the
Speaker 4: first the first five, the first four weeks, you just
Speaker 4: overwhelmed a little bit. I'm like, I'm here. It was
Speaker 4: tough to get here, but I'm here. And lucky for me,
Speaker 4: I had like a few homies from back and forth.
Speaker 4: Green shot out, my brother Chic. He definitely pulled up
Speaker 4: for the whole ride with me, and yeah, it was
Speaker 4: a special ride. I made it through. I've really this.
Speaker 4: The long I stayed in college was mainly before my parents.
Speaker 4: They wanted me to like finish close to finishing. And
Speaker 4: when I got that call to go to the league,
Speaker 4: it was like, I'm out of here.
Speaker 3: That was God.
Speaker 4: That was his life life. There's always his time life.
Speaker 4: There's always just grabs hold of you and just like
Speaker 4: it's time to go. He say it's over with.
Speaker 1: Damn man, we was talking to I was talking to
Speaker 1: your team.
Speaker 2: You know that man, the Bulls two thousand and nine drafted.
Speaker 2: Being from Brooklyn, I know that I had to feel
Speaker 2: like the ultimate dream come truth.
Speaker 1: Man, like take us.
Speaker 2: To that time because I you know, I watching on
Speaker 2: ESPN every year, bro, I watched the draft every year.
Speaker 1: I never knew no one.
Speaker 2: That actually went there like where I knew them, and
Speaker 2: I didn't know you, but you knew my peoples. We
Speaker 2: knew the same people, so it felt like I knew you, Yeah,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And I was talking to
Speaker 2: I didn't even know you was from Brooklyn to a
Speaker 2: little later because at first when you got drafted.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you talk. Talk to dude, your dam
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you talk. I'm gonna tell you my drama.
Speaker 2: Had first before I found out we was connected.
Speaker 1: But the bulls How was that life?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: Well, it was amazing really, Uh just seeing that red
Speaker 4: and white, those colors just call your name. It was special.
Speaker 4: First thing you think of as Michael Jordan. We're in
Speaker 4: the same jersey, going to the slang locker room, eating
Speaker 4: the same stuff that he once had a chance to do.
Speaker 3: So it was just all special for me. That's what's up. Man.
Speaker 2: Y'all had an il team man, he rose Noah Lou
Speaker 2: al Dang, that was my nigga. Man, I fucked with
Speaker 2: Lou's who was my nigga? Y'all was the first ones
Speaker 2: running with tims man.
Speaker 1: What was that like?
Speaker 2: Because you know, Tims get a lot of heat out
Speaker 2: here say he don't use this bitch.
Speaker 4: Well, he just he just taught for me personally. He
Speaker 4: just taught just me how to just be a tough
Speaker 4: minded man. It's tough minded, be there for your teammates,
Speaker 4: always ready to go swing on somebody for your teammates.
Speaker 3: Beat it.
Speaker 4: Definitely like that's how that's the type of time you
Speaker 4: have to be like and it becomes a brotherhood and
Speaker 4: others around you, others like that go against you, like
Speaker 4: the counterparts. Everybody respects that because that's how you kind
Speaker 4: of want to be received, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: But just want to be one of those those hard nerve,
Speaker 4: kind of hard nose kind of players.
Speaker 3: And that's hard nose. Everybody want to have.
Speaker 4: That that that's that stigma to them.
Speaker 2: So that's definitely on demon time on the court. You
Speaker 2: so major bullshit, violent, yo. And that's what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because you know, I knew Braun before he got into
Speaker 2: the league, you know, with Worldwide West being in the
Speaker 2: studio with us whole and all that, so I had
Speaker 2: a relationship with him, and y'all nigga's bad. It was.
Speaker 2: I used to be so heated, like these niggas really
Speaker 2: trying to thug Braun now, like fat Man.
Speaker 3: It was a special time.
Speaker 4: I'm just I was just so blessed to be able
Speaker 4: to just play against Braun and his prim and can
Speaker 4: say I tried my best, but he was just the top.
Speaker 4: He's like, I go to one of the go to
Speaker 4: our game and I was just blessed to be in
Speaker 4: that position. And like you said, we just got we
Speaker 4: just so connected. Man, that's just God. The whole time.
Speaker 4: I was just like a mine from the side, like damn,
Speaker 4: I want to be like Bleak one day if I can.
Speaker 3: Just get it out of here.
Speaker 4: Maybe fact this is hard, but that's when you believe
Speaker 4: in what you believe in, God will take you there
Speaker 4: for really really do what your life.
Speaker 2: That's crazy to hear you say that, bro, because every
Speaker 2: kid will want to be you, like go to the lead.
Speaker 1: That's oh, come on.
Speaker 2: Being from the urban community, that's our first dream is yo,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a basketball player. You know, a lot
Speaker 2: of us fall short, but you really did it coming
Speaker 2: from the real trenches, Fort Green projects.
Speaker 1: Man of one.
Speaker 2: I could take seven pedals on my bike from Marcia
Speaker 2: and I'm there, like you feel me Like I had
Speaker 2: to go. Like this another thing, farming the Deli you
Speaker 2: have to risk your life for.
Speaker 1: If you wasn't respected or.
Speaker 2: You wasn't going to farm in the Delhi, you probably
Speaker 2: could go today because they tiktoped it out. But back then,
Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying. That projects was serious, bro. So
Speaker 2: to make it from that to to where you made it, man,
Speaker 2: it's a major blessing, bro.
Speaker 1: Word up. Just a question me.
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask, who would you say, what's the
Speaker 2: toughest opponent besides like you gave Braun's pride, But who
Speaker 2: would you say you hated facing and you're like, man,
Speaker 2: I hate playing this nigga.
Speaker 3: Uh hmm.
Speaker 4: There's so many, so many, but it would be dre
Speaker 4: Man Draymond Green. That's I got the most respect for him,
Speaker 4: like like like he's like we just like when you
Speaker 4: play against guys like that, you want to fight him.
Speaker 4: But then again, if you're on a team want him,
Speaker 4: you just like want to embrace him.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 4: And I got a lot of respect from him even
Speaker 4: in college when I played against him as when he
Speaker 4: was a freshman, I was like, damn, this kid, is
Speaker 4: going to be something and uh East Battle. I disappreciate it.
Speaker 4: And he was just tough, the guy that can go
Speaker 4: out one through five like it's different.
Speaker 2: He's really I just ran down knowing him as roots
Speaker 2: Picnic told him the same thing, Yo, you violated Braun,
Speaker 2: gonna go get KD. He's like bleak. It had to
Speaker 2: be done though. If it wasn't nuts, then who I
Speaker 2: could I even have an answer? It was like, damn,
Speaker 2: I need a brawn with me. We'd have jumped that
Speaker 2: nigga yo.
Speaker 3: Yo.
Speaker 2: From one thing that's been always said about you, from
Speaker 2: your rookie year through your teammates, coaches and everything, work ethic.
Speaker 2: They always say you've been on top of your game
Speaker 2: and everything. Even the homies was just saying that, yo,
Speaker 2: when he come through, you're gonna see he were he
Speaker 2: in shape. We work out all the time, Like what's
Speaker 2: your motivation behind that?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 4: To be honest with you, growing up in Brooklyn, I
Speaker 4: used to go h It was a moving company downtown
Speaker 4: Brooklyn called BRS. And I used to work there every
Speaker 4: summer from like the age of like ten all the
Speaker 4: way to like fifteen, even when I'm like six nine,
Speaker 4: six eight I'm working on the chain gang with Hispanics
Speaker 4: Mexican essays who really don't have any paperwork, and I'm
Speaker 4: really in the tunnels with them every time, and that
Speaker 4: really like struck a nerve. It really really humbled me
Speaker 4: because they used to time, they used to get paid
Speaker 4: on the side, and the whole fork.
Speaker 3: Green used to work in there.
Speaker 4: So we used to really be riding the bus, riding
Speaker 4: the trucks all the way to the back of Farrogate.
Speaker 4: We used to hang out and I used to see
Speaker 4: this every day, and that just gave me a whole
Speaker 4: new just distinct on this how I got how really
Speaker 4: hard I gotta go because even one day they sent
Speaker 4: me home. I remember, because this job, it's not like
Speaker 4: any other job in the moving to companies, moving companies
Speaker 4: that get all workers from like guys who did time
Speaker 4: in jail, guys who did really serious time and messed up.
Speaker 3: So I used to be on the line with them.
Speaker 4: And my dad he used to be a carpenter, so
Speaker 4: he used to make sure I went through that process.
Speaker 4: He didn't care if he was in charge of me,
Speaker 4: in charge or not, So every day I had it.
Speaker 4: It was a Caucasian old man and he used to
Speaker 4: be at the top of the at the top of
Speaker 4: the hill, big big hold deaths and everything. He used
Speaker 4: to be sitting there like call out names. And one
Speaker 4: day he didn't call my name. He's I sent you home,
Speaker 4: so you can pack up, go get on the line
Speaker 4: with time. I was like, oh, I don't like this
Speaker 4: feeling like this feeling. Word up God, rest is soul.
Speaker 4: Thank you for the uh the education. But I remember
Speaker 4: one day the essays is like Poppy. They was like,
Speaker 4: you don't want to do this. You don't want to
Speaker 4: do this, Boppy, you got something to do with your
Speaker 4: life now. And I never looked back. Shout out to
Speaker 4: all the guys that br Rest. That company is still
Speaker 4: downtown Brooklyn. Uh, they still got a lot of got
Speaker 4: a lot of guys from the from the projects, a
Speaker 4: lot of guys from from just home, just coming home
Speaker 4: from prison.
Speaker 3: Shout out to them, and yeah that's what real, sup.
Speaker 2: You got some youth, some youth basketball leagues popping off
Speaker 2: too down the way, and yeah, right now, tell them
Speaker 2: man speak on it.
Speaker 3: Heah.
Speaker 4: We do a lot of youth basketball clinics down at
Speaker 4: Fort Green. Try doing the Farragate. We consistent almost every
Speaker 4: year shout out to the main event we involved with that.
Speaker 4: It's a project whole assignment with guys from Farragut downtown
Speaker 4: Brooklyn and we supporting that any way. We can all
Speaker 4: the way up from Myrtle, all the way up to
Speaker 4: Myrtle and Broadway. That's we did from Marcy Tompkins some
Speaker 4: of the our families and every last one of them
Speaker 4: be all connected. Now we just try to stay consistent
Speaker 4: in downtown Brooklyn. That's what's up, man, And I ain't
Speaker 4: gonna front. We need more ball players from from because
Speaker 4: if you look at the NBA now, man going to
Speaker 4: ask you too, because from my perspective, it's a it's
Speaker 4: an overseas.
Speaker 2: Star driven lead. Now there's not really too many stars
Speaker 2: from us. Saw you anymore? How you feel about that?
Speaker 4: I say, look at the Knicks, baby, shut up to
Speaker 4: the Knicks right.
Speaker 3: Thing through. I was blessed way to Jersey. That's my family.
Speaker 4: This stuff we changed the whole culture and they finally
Speaker 4: got it done this year. Just look at the Knicks.
Speaker 4: We gotta start power on the Knicks. You can say
Speaker 4: whatever you want. Jalen Brunson, Carl Towns, They from the
Speaker 4: town from New York City from Philly, New York. Uh
Speaker 4: that that start power right there along. It's gonna show
Speaker 4: you because we shook the league. You look at the
Speaker 4: next thing and how much star power they bought, how
Speaker 4: much viewers be brought.
Speaker 2: We shut it down, shut down all the stars one
Speaker 2: of them. I ain't gonna lie. I'm glad we got
Speaker 2: the spurs them out of there. But I wanted us
Speaker 2: to play, okay, C man, I wanted to spank them.
Speaker 4: Before I wanted I want to eat a team because
Speaker 4: I felt like I just felt like O G and
Speaker 4: the guys has just been proving like it's nothing like
Speaker 4: playing in New York City and going Because I'm being
Speaker 4: honest with you're waking up.
Speaker 3: You're gonna hear.
Speaker 4: You're gonna hear the truck drivers, You're gonna head the garbage,
Speaker 4: you're gonna head the dude making.
Speaker 1: Yo, why you missed that? Layup O yo? That's one thing.
Speaker 3: Tap up.
Speaker 4: They're gonna be like, Yo, what's going on? A right here,
Speaker 4: Get some mistake, whatever you need to do, get your
Speaker 4: mind right. It all worked out. I'm so proud of
Speaker 4: the guys for real.
Speaker 2: Now that's what New York getting it done. Man, fifty
Speaker 2: three years is fifty four years. It's fucking insane. I
Speaker 2: wasn't even alive when they won the chip. I can't
Speaker 2: five years after, so to see it done now, it
Speaker 2: was something I never thought I would see. But if
Speaker 2: you really look at it, what you were off my
Speaker 2: question and how you answered it, that might be the
Speaker 2: only team with all American players on it. And I
Speaker 2: never thought about that until you just said that, like
Speaker 2: word up five whole like everybody else is. And I
Speaker 2: went to dinner with with Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady
Speaker 2: and they said, yo, once LJ Once braun KD Curry
Speaker 2: har and once them guys retired, he was like, man,
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a rough race for us in the
Speaker 2: in the USA and Olympics. He was like, I don't
Speaker 2: think we're gonna win for a minute because we don't
Speaker 2: got no shooters.
Speaker 4: Well, one thing about us, never count us out, you
Speaker 4: see New York. Never count us out. Baby, It's gonna
Speaker 4: be a good summer. You can if you can feel
Speaker 4: it New York feeling. The vibe is back in New York.
Speaker 3: Can feel it.
Speaker 2: Whoever said new York it no more, you fucking lied
Speaker 2: because the vibe is back. And so this summer and
Speaker 2: why I ain't gonna lie might be one of niggas
Speaker 2: asks me, what summer, what year it might be?
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty six?
Speaker 2: Man might take over nineteen ninety eight because to me,
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety eight was my favorite era.
Speaker 1: Of New York City.
Speaker 4: Okay, So basically he gave it a uh, he's popping
Speaker 4: out for Marsie Day, y'all they popping out from Marsie Day.
Speaker 1: Shit this year. They canceled it last year. Word, I
Speaker 1: hope they have it this year. Last year they canceled
Speaker 1: Marsie Day.
Speaker 2: So back to the game, like, Yo, you play the injuries, coaching, changes, trades,
Speaker 2: different roles. What would you say was your toughest career challenge?
Speaker 2: Like mentally, hmmm, I would say, I'll say be traded.
Speaker 2: First time being traded. Yeah, it was mentally like it
Speaker 2: shook me up. How cold the business can be?
Speaker 4: Like one minute, you're like, yo, your chill, relax the
Speaker 4: way they did me, it was like, yo, charge your chill.
Speaker 4: It was practice, having a good practice, regular normal stuff, driving,
Speaker 4: eat the same breakfast. It was like yo, practice starts
Speaker 4: everything smooth, your chill, yo, yo, just relax on the side.
Speaker 4: I'm like, all, yeah, you're right, we do play tonight.
Speaker 4: Next you know that phone call, Yo, they're trading you.
Speaker 4: They're trading you.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh wow, Oh, I'm just like hole.
Speaker 4: Process is going crazy when I'm realizing, like it's over,
Speaker 4: like all these memories I had, it's done. They like, Yo,
Speaker 4: we got to get you up out of here, like
Speaker 4: thank you, hugging a million people in the next you know,
Speaker 4: you on a plane going somewhere else.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. I never do it as a fan. I
Speaker 2: don't think we think about it like that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but it's tough, and if you think about it,
Speaker 4: you still you're still blessed enough to just still be
Speaker 4: in the league.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's always highs and lows.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, because you always, like really think that
Speaker 4: you're going to be with a certain organization for a
Speaker 4: long time.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that's how we go.
Speaker 2: And shit, speaking of that, that led into this, I
Speaker 2: was gonna ask you too, Man, A lot of players,
Speaker 2: you know, getting traded different coaches or whatever, they struggle
Speaker 2: when they role change, you know what I mean, And
Speaker 2: you adapted and remain valuable on every team. You ever
Speaker 2: played for so how did you manage that? Like staying focused,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Even through them times.
Speaker 3: It's like.
Speaker 4: I'm already It's like with any profession, like you've got.
Speaker 4: Some people can tell that I really love the game,
Speaker 4: like I'm a student of the game. I came into
Speaker 4: the league where guys were going on three month training
Speaker 4: training periods where they're going to LA and just train
Speaker 4: a whole summer, and really that's all they did, work
Speaker 4: on their bodies.
Speaker 3: I will see magic.
Speaker 4: You will see different older guys, poor Pierce, still playing
Speaker 4: late until like they're like almost the forties, guys still
Speaker 4: wanting to love of the game and used to be
Speaker 4: loving that because you should have wanted to just learn
Speaker 4: whatever they had going on. Like some guys. I mean
Speaker 4: about we were working out in LA one time. You
Speaker 4: had we work out with bodybuilders, swimmers. Learn different trades
Speaker 4: of the game, Kobe, like Yo, learn how to swim,
Speaker 4: learn how to do different things, and grow your game.
Speaker 3: Don't worry about when nobody's stinking. Follow your path.
Speaker 4: That's one thing I always tell Like when I used
Speaker 4: to when Kobe used to always come to Chicago, he
Speaker 4: used to really pull up like that's he's so gangster.
Speaker 3: He used to pull up by YO coming.
Speaker 4: Gibson's consistently like Yo talking to dudes from Brooklyn, YO
Speaker 4: being regular. Targe, stand your path. You you tough to
Speaker 4: stay you path, Learn how to swim, take care of
Speaker 4: your body, don't worry about anything, stay focused on your path.
Speaker 4: I didn't realize that's why I try as at a
Speaker 4: veteran and these teams keep picking me up. They'll just
Speaker 4: be Targe. I'm like, all right, what you want me
Speaker 4: to do? That's right, be yourself. I'm telling me, Tom,
Speaker 4: don't worry about the noise. We all, as everybody that
Speaker 4: grown me, we all got to stay on that path.
Speaker 4: We all got to go through that fire no matter what.
Speaker 4: Once you turn eighteen, we're all going through the fires.
Speaker 4: A fact, crazy fire, the fact.
Speaker 2: So like the young, what do you think the young
Speaker 2: the younger athletes misunderstood about what it takes because you
Speaker 2: had a long career, Like you said, you always getting
Speaker 2: picked up the veteran career, and he all the time
Speaker 2: like you longevity. You definitely wanted any think of longevity
Speaker 2: in the NBA. You definitely have to be one of
Speaker 2: the faces put there because you've been in the league,
Speaker 2: what seventeen.
Speaker 1: Years, right and bless bless, blessed.
Speaker 2: So what do you think the young guys got misunderstood
Speaker 2: about what it takes to build longevity now?
Speaker 4: And that I think that that question is that people
Speaker 4: that we were the ones giving the information that we
Speaker 4: don't love them like we're giving.
Speaker 3: I'm for myself because I don't. I don't. I'm not
Speaker 3: that vet. I'm not that guy.
Speaker 4: That's that that og that's in front of you, like,
Speaker 4: don't do it. I'm really that olg like coming from
Speaker 4: a place of love. I always try to give them
Speaker 4: to him from a standpoint of look at me, like
Speaker 4: that uncle, that uncle that didn't make it, look at me,
Speaker 4: the uncle like uncle that's at the corner store, your
Speaker 4: brother that's looking at you, that didn't make it, look
Speaker 4: at me. And when I tell you this, look at
Speaker 4: look like it's coming from them. That's right, Like, because
Speaker 4: it's really tough out here, bro, you don't understand like
Speaker 4: you may have lost at this game, but you win
Speaker 4: the game of life. That's everybody's not always willing to
Speaker 4: beat up your friend. Like that's where the OG's come
Speaker 4: through and be like, yo, it's Okay, it's okay to
Speaker 4: like take a step back. Sometime when you take a
Speaker 4: step back, love gonna come back double.
Speaker 1: That's a fact.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you gotta take a step back to take ten
Speaker 2: steps forward.
Speaker 4: Or may go the other way. But when you solid,
Speaker 4: you gotta have some kind of morals. Stand on something.
Speaker 4: I stand on charge more, I stand on for me,
Speaker 4: I stand on love. I stand on being there for
Speaker 4: my teammates and they always come back.
Speaker 1: Salad definitely a solid one for sure.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 2: And like we just were talking about it, man, you
Speaker 2: stay connected to New York, your community, everything, Man, Like,
Speaker 2: why is that so important to you?
Speaker 1: Like that other people might not understand.
Speaker 4: Well, because it's important because we gotta keep passing it
Speaker 4: down because I realize, like it's I think it was
Speaker 4: a meme where you've seen like a picture of a
Speaker 4: guy he's standing on top of books and the books
Speaker 4: taking above the picture above the window. Some guys can
Speaker 4: see through the mirror through the window. Some guys can't
Speaker 4: get to the window. And it's like I'm at that
Speaker 4: stage where I really see what's going on. So I'm
Speaker 4: like it's a process. It's like a chain or reaction.
Speaker 4: A lot of stuff going on. So each time I'm
Speaker 4: trying to build wealth knowledge to help the next generation.
Speaker 4: It's tough, don't get me wrong, but you gotta take
Speaker 4: it on the chin. No, you know what I've I.
Speaker 2: Think why I always tell people, the young kids, why
Speaker 2: I think it's hard for us to connect. We gotta
Speaker 2: think back when we was younger and the older niggas
Speaker 2: was talking to us. It was like, man, you gotta
Speaker 2: some of these young guys. You gotta let them bump
Speaker 2: their head and then they'll take the the knowledge on
Speaker 2: the chinks.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 2: I grew up around the o gs and I'd be
Speaker 2: a fool to tell you if I never fucked up
Speaker 2: the way dang JL biggs had to be like Nigga,
Speaker 2: I told you and it's like, yo, you did. But
Speaker 2: I had to run into that brick wall myself to
Speaker 2: experience it, you know what I mean, to really understand
Speaker 2: the depth of the message, because sometimes the words just
Speaker 2: sit there and it has no.
Speaker 1: Meaning if you don't have the experience, you.
Speaker 3: Know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That's what I think it is. I think it's the
Speaker 2: lack of experience. These kids didn't experience enough to really
Speaker 2: understand the message.
Speaker 3: Well, they don't be outside the way we used to.
Speaker 2: No, Yo, it's so crazy, man Like, think about it.
Speaker 2: The young boys Evinna dances the way you don't dance
Speaker 2: with no bitches.
Speaker 1: How like I'd be damn.
Speaker 2: If we ever went to the club and ever and
Speaker 2: we spinning around down there in all the holes just
Speaker 2: over there, we'd be like only fucking the viba getting sturdy.
Speaker 2: I don't think I'm sturdy.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 4: One thing about the barbecue, the family barbecue, or that.
Speaker 3: You know who's sturdy.
Speaker 1: They still out, you know, they they're busting it up.
Speaker 3: You kidding me?
Speaker 2: Even at the nixt Nigga they was busting it up
Speaker 2: at the garden.
Speaker 1: They ain't playing. I know.
Speaker 2: I'm glad I'm at the age round man, where I
Speaker 2: don't have to be outside with these young niggas because
Speaker 2: these knees. I'd have jumped down on that floor one time.
Speaker 2: Ain't no popping back up. It had been just like
Speaker 2: the slinkies. We knew that didn't work.
Speaker 1: Straight up.
Speaker 2: What opportunity, What opportunities outside of basketball most excite you?
Speaker 1: Right now?
Speaker 3: Real estate?
Speaker 4: Right now, me and my friends we're doing the whole
Speaker 4: real estate project, allowing ourselves to really grow as this
Speaker 4: individuals trying to build west of our community. Shout out
Speaker 4: to Alo Brooklyn Downtown, one of our partners. We're just
Speaker 4: we're just trying to have built equity in the neighborhood.
Speaker 4: Learn the process as well, but still keep thriving and
Speaker 4: still keeping on to learn at the same time. And
Speaker 4: I'm excited. I got my man Meek with me. Who's
Speaker 4: head right here with me now, my brother Gregory h.
Speaker 4: We just continue to keep growing and shout out to
Speaker 4: the whole Three Keys movement, the whole agency.
Speaker 2: We just continue to keep growing. That's what's up, man.
Speaker 2: So what's next for you, mar G? What's the next play?
Speaker 2: I know you got the basketball Youth League the real estate.
Speaker 2: I think they say y'all doing the Boys and Girls
Speaker 2: Joint over. I used to play ball in there, so
Speaker 2: I'm definitely got to come by and see that project
Speaker 2: finish for sure.
Speaker 4: Well, well, we're yes one of the projects working on
Speaker 4: remoling the Boys and Girls Club downtown Brooklyn and right
Speaker 4: in the heart of downtown falk Green Farragut. Uh, just
Speaker 4: just bringing positivity negative and then leaving on the negativity
Speaker 4: out repurposing the whole public school, bringing more awareness and
Speaker 4: more technology to downtown Brooklyn. That's the whole point, is
Speaker 4: having to say and at the table that's right for
Speaker 4: the minorities, for people of our upbringing, and just continue
Speaker 4: to grow it. I can't wait for the futures real bright,
Speaker 4: but downtown Brooklyn as a whole, even all the way
Speaker 4: up from Murder, all the way down, all the way
Speaker 4: up to Broadway. We have to be more educated because
Speaker 4: it's a lot of opportunities coming and I'm looking forward
Speaker 4: to this. Getting money to our people can be real
Speaker 4: with you, for real.
Speaker 1: That's what's up, man.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, man, more blessings, continue to success. Like
Speaker 2: I said, if it's any way we could participate rock solid.
Speaker 2: You know we got a lot of different avenues and
Speaker 2: connections too. And you know that's my town too. So
Speaker 2: I'm with you, my dog. I appreciate you. You know
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