Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. For me, I'm a.
Speaker 2: Man, I'm forty.
Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to
Speaker 1: be happy.
Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Stake,
Speaker 3: is that whoo whoom and.
Speaker 1: Then and tie? You know, we did our week nine preview, Dan,
Speaker 1: we called it still into You Saturday. Yeah, I'm wondering
Speaker 1: if we're still into calling it still into you after
Speaker 1: we saw the influx of backups and the impact that
Speaker 1: they had in week nine, after we saw the influx
Speaker 1: of survival games. It was not a loaded week from
Speaker 1: the standpoint of there being monster upsets, major earth shattering
Speaker 1: storylines for us to discuss on this episode that we're
Speaker 1: recording at midnight Eastern on Saturday, but in some way,
Speaker 1: shape or form, as we come to know, in college football,
Speaker 1: there are always interesting things to talk about, and we're
Speaker 1: going to go into those here over the next hours. So,
Speaker 1: my friend, how are you?
Speaker 3: I'm good? What about Sideline getting loose Saturday for the
Speaker 3: number of backup quarterbacks Marcel Reid Drew Pine. I think
Speaker 3: it was what Brendan rose for Utah after they Sir
Speaker 3: Isaac Wilson was benched the number Bo Pribula Penn state
Speaker 3: the number of backup quarterbacks, either because the starter wasn't
Speaker 3: working out, Connor Wagman, Marcel Reid comes in, or there's
Speaker 3: an injury Drew Aller. Was it a knee situation?
Speaker 1: For it was ankle? They said knee on the broadcast,
Speaker 1: but there's no way it would have been a knee
Speaker 1: if he's just standing there kind of willy nilly on
Speaker 1: the sideline. So I'm going with ankle my official diagnosis.
Speaker 3: I think Baron Morton went down for Texas Tech. So
Speaker 3: sideline getting loose Saturday it was, Yeah, it was a
Speaker 3: survival Saturday. There's a lot to talk about here. I'm
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Speaker 1: I don't know how much movement we're going to see
Speaker 1: as a result of the action in week nine, but
Speaker 1: suffice to say there was a fair amount of survival
Speaker 1: going on in and around the world of College Trip
Speaker 1: over the next hour. So we're going to go through
Speaker 1: what we deem kind of the Big twelve, the Big
Speaker 1: twelve things that transpired over the course of the weekend,
Speaker 1: which of course started a little bit earlier, as it
Speaker 1: has for the last couple of weeks. Now. Then we
Speaker 1: had games on Thursday and Friday and of course Saturday
Speaker 1: that we need to get into here, Dan.
Speaker 3: I some Liberty won and comm Accord was super accurate.
Speaker 3: I don't need to go through it super closely.
Speaker 1: Yes, No, may want to hold off on that asside. Okay, Fy,
Speaker 1: what was the big story for you after having watched
Speaker 1: everything in week twelve or week what was the big
Speaker 1: story for you after having watched everything in week nine?
Speaker 3: Is it week twelve already, Oh my god, Top twelve
Speaker 3: week nine, you know, yes, yes, yeah, Top eleven or
Speaker 3: twelve things week nine. I mean the theme is survival,
Speaker 3: right when you look across the sport, when you look
Speaker 3: at Ohio State, when you look at Texas, when you
Speaker 3: look at Kansas State surviving, I don't know, they made
Speaker 3: like a ninety one yard field goal. I don't know
Speaker 3: what these number. These numbers are getting cartoonish right now.
Speaker 3: But top teams, top fifteen, twenty teams, slow start for
Speaker 3: Penn State losing a quarterback, they survive on the road
Speaker 3: in a tough environment, like it doesn't matter how good
Speaker 3: or average Wisconsin is week to week. That is a
Speaker 3: tough place to win. And what Penn State was able
Speaker 3: to do it's survival, and so thematically that's what it is.
Speaker 3: But when you look at those top few teams, especially
Speaker 3: Ohio State and Texas, I think those are the ones,
Speaker 3: especially because their opponents were probably somewhere between okay and
Speaker 3: pretty good. But these teams are built to not have
Speaker 3: to fully compete with Vanderbilt and Nebraska the way those
Speaker 3: teams are constructed at the moment, I think, but winning
Speaker 3: is better than losing. So I guess you know, I
Speaker 3: think that the top clunker performances in a survival way
Speaker 3: where the or the story.
Speaker 1: Well, I actually had the Marcel Read performance against.
Speaker 3: He was the best reliever. I mean it is World
Speaker 3: Series time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I had that as kind of my top thing,
Speaker 1: which we'll get into. I also had Penn State up
Speaker 1: at the top. But since you brought it up, why
Speaker 1: don't we talk about the Ohio State and Texas situation
Speaker 1: because that was about as close as I think we
Speaker 1: got to actual upsets. Shout out to Roger Simon's father
Speaker 1: and Woe a Blue Car.
Speaker 3: Okay, those are.
Speaker 1: Two of other ballers who are out an active out
Speaker 1: on college Football Reddit who were posting about this, and
Speaker 1: they said it best win your clunkers, Dan, win your clunkers.
Speaker 1: So Ohio State did win over Nebraska. The game was
Speaker 1: at home, twenty one to seventeen. It was a bit
Speaker 1: of a nail bier, which is why yes by off
Speaker 1: bye with Penn State on deck, which is to say,
Speaker 1: of course that Nebraska had the ball with the chance
Speaker 1: to win late they did not. Ohio State intercepts it
Speaker 1: game over. But if you zoom out and look at
Speaker 1: what transpired, in this game. It kind of had the
Speaker 1: hallmarks of rusty, hallmarks of Russ. Ohio State won for
Speaker 1: ten on third downs. They couldn't run the ball. Matt
Speaker 1: Ruhle in the post games that he loved his defense
Speaker 1: basically gave up three plays that he liked back, those
Speaker 1: being the three touchdowns from Will Howard. You know who
Speaker 1: knows what happens if Ohio State doesn't get to stop
Speaker 1: when they got to stop, If in fact, Nebraska is
Speaker 1: able to go down the field and score and win
Speaker 1: the game. But this is one of those deals where
Speaker 1: you're sort of looking and you're panning, and you're seeing
Speaker 1: the scores kind of go across the bottom line, you
Speaker 1: wrinkle your brow. Really, Ohio State was a twenty five
Speaker 1: and a half point favor coming into this one. Dan
Speaker 1: They win by four at home.
Speaker 3: So Ohio State down there. Starting left tackle for the season,
Speaker 3: Josh Simmons went down against Oregon, obviously not playing against Nebraska.
Speaker 3: They lose another tackle. They're shifting things all over on
Speaker 3: their offensive line. Will Howard looked like a Heisman caliber
Speaker 3: quarterback in the very game, and Chip Kelly from the
Speaker 3: booth saw ah Man. Will Howard is nailing it man,
Speaker 3: he's I mean, it's Carnell Tate, it's Jeremiah Smith. He
Speaker 3: looks comfortable, he looks accurate, he looks like he's dealing
Speaker 3: What if we ran at it behind a beat up
Speaker 3: offensive line? Far be it for me to question ship Kelly.
Speaker 3: Chip Kelly is given me some incredible college football memories
Speaker 3: as an Oregon human. But this one seemed a little
Speaker 3: bit backwards, and I don't know if it were you know,
Speaker 3: RPO decisions, whatever it was. Chip Kelly is known for
Speaker 3: his ability to craft a sensational run game and run
Speaker 3: offense for a number of teams. Did it at Oregon,
Speaker 3: UCLA did with the Eagles for a little while, if
Speaker 3: memory serves forty nine ers. While, but yeah, yeah has
Speaker 3: incredible running backs at Ohio State doesn't necessarily have a
Speaker 3: consistently incredible running game, at least not recently against defenses
Speaker 3: like Oregon's and Nebraska's. I kind of wonder why they
Speaker 3: weren't just airing it out a little bit more and
Speaker 3: leaning into what was working, especially after seeing what Curtis
Speaker 3: Roork and Tavin Jackson were able to do against the
Speaker 3: Nebraska secondary and pass defense last week. So that was
Speaker 3: curious to me, But Ohio States survived. Maybe they took
Speaker 3: some lessons from this, but it was an ugly win
Speaker 3: against I still think Nebraska's defense is pretty good, pretty tough.
Speaker 3: I thought the game planned really nicely terms of corraling
Speaker 3: the running game and forcing a lot of pressure on
Speaker 3: this offensive line on the ground. Unacceptable from my late
Speaker 3: tech salesman. Playoff team of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the meme going around on social media,
Speaker 1: the two guys kind of arm wrestling. On one side
Speaker 1: Penn State fans saying will this be good enough against
Speaker 1: Ohio State? And on the other it's Ohio State fans
Speaker 1: saying will this be good enough against Penn State?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: Right? It was one of those weekends for sure in
Speaker 1: the Big Ten. So how State does win? I take
Speaker 1: away from whatever you want or take whatever you want
Speaker 1: away from that win. The other one that we should
Speaker 1: mention here at the top if we are talking about
Speaker 1: survival is the Texas game. Yes, so Texas goes to Vandy.
Speaker 1: Everybody at this point the book is out on Vandy.
Speaker 1: The book's out on Diego Pavia. He's like a folk hero.
Speaker 3: That he's good, that they are a good football team.
Speaker 1: Yes, they're good, they're ranked football team. Diego Pavia is
Speaker 1: a bit of a giant killer, right, he has that reputation,
Speaker 1: And there were moments in this game where didn't feel like,
Speaker 1: especially later in the game, it didn't feel like they
Speaker 1: were going to be able to conjure up that magic.
Speaker 1: And then lo and behold, they friggin do it. They
Speaker 1: freaking do it again. They find a way to score late.
Speaker 1: He somehow threads a needle to get the score late
Speaker 1: to twenty four seventeen in favor of Texas. Eventually they
Speaker 1: do get the ball back. They have an opportunity at
Speaker 1: that point, though it just wasn't happening. So it didn't
Speaker 1: happen for Vandy the way it did in that Bamba
Speaker 1: game a few weeks back. But the fact that Texas
Speaker 1: goes into Vandy, the fact that they end up struggling
Speaker 1: like other teams are struggled, was was meaningful and definitely
Speaker 1: worthy of our discussion. What's interesting to me, though, is
Speaker 1: I kind of feel different about this one than I
Speaker 1: do the Ohio State one. Okay, why In this one?
Speaker 1: For sure, I felt like the story was quinn yours.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It wasn't so much Diego Pavia and the
Speaker 1: magic of Van Built and their ability to take teams
Speaker 1: to the wire that we perceive as being better. This
Speaker 1: is Quinn Yours actually stepping up at a really big spot,
Speaker 1: and given some of what he has gone through this
Speaker 1: season and the Georgia game, right Like, there were rumors
Speaker 1: this past week maybe he's going to sit out. That
Speaker 1: was not a real rumor, Okay, but I might go
Speaker 1: the other way. Continue. I just thought that this is
Speaker 1: a pretty good performance by him, given everything that's transpired
Speaker 1: now over the last month and a half or so.
Speaker 3: You can go in a couple of different directions with this.
Speaker 3: The offensive line struggled again and got pushed around. They
Speaker 3: got pushed around by Georgia, and Vanderbilt was able to
Speaker 3: find ways to pressure quin Yours. I came away being
Speaker 3: impressed by some quin Yours throws, but having the same
Speaker 3: concerns I think a lot of us have had these
Speaker 3: past couple of years where he seems to tighten up
Speaker 3: a little bit and the quality that you would love
Speaker 3: to see. And look, he has a playoff quarterback he
Speaker 3: helped to lead. He didn't play in every game last year,
Speaker 3: he played in the playoff. He was the best quarterback
Speaker 3: on this team last season when they went to the
Speaker 3: four team playoff. But there are just some moments where
Speaker 3: you're just like, man, if he really needs to win
Speaker 3: a game, if the run game isn't there, if the
Speaker 3: defense isn't there, and the defense has largely been there,
Speaker 3: the offense has just been putting the Texas defense in
Speaker 3: a bad position. And last week we saw it against
Speaker 3: Georgia that the line was not able to weather the
Speaker 3: Georgia front and Vanderbilt was able to get a bunch
Speaker 3: of pressure on quinn yours and he seems four stretches
Speaker 3: a little bit rattled to me. I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think he's good, but I think there are limitations to
Speaker 3: this offense right now. I think the skill talent is good,
Speaker 3: as beat up as this running back room still is.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I think Texas is good. I don't
Speaker 3: think Texas fans should fully freak out like football's hard,
Speaker 3: The sec is hard, Going on the road to play
Speaker 3: a good team is hard. But I think the early
Speaker 3: part of Texas's season maybe mischaracterized this team as arriving
Speaker 3: once again without hiccups.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to the point though, on Quinnewers. I'm
Speaker 1: looking at this Texas rushing line right now, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: I see Quintravion Wisner Wiser with seventeen carries seventy nine
Speaker 1: yards with a long of twenty. I see Jayden Blue
Speaker 1: ten carries forty seven yards long of twenty three. With
Speaker 1: the exception of basically a couple big plays, Texas didn't
Speaker 1: run and if they were gonna win, this is going
Speaker 1: to be on Quinnewers in the defense. And so he
Speaker 1: had those two tip passes and for short that there
Speaker 1: are moments where he does tighten up, but they needed
Speaker 1: him in this game. They escape twenty seven to twenty four.
Speaker 1: As your final Texas moves on, they will probably remain
Speaker 1: a top five team. I don't know if I don't
Speaker 1: think they should fall as a result of this. But
Speaker 1: another thin win that transpires squaring off against Vanderbilt, which
Speaker 1: is one of the craziest stories we could have imagined
Speaker 1: the season.
Speaker 3: I agree, I agree, And Vandy was right there. There
Speaker 3: was an on side kick right for Vandy to try
Speaker 3: and tie this game. Lights that's where we were in
Speaker 3: this matchup. Texas was favored by how many points eighteen
Speaker 3: and a half points Dan eighteen and a half points. No,
Speaker 3: the story to me is Vanderbilt's continued wave of quality
Speaker 3: against anybody and everybody they play, and Texas not fully
Speaker 3: adapting over the course of these games. They seem like
Speaker 3: Texas was going to slow, like maybe a crockpot situation.
Speaker 3: In this game, Vanderbilt just kept common. And I don't
Speaker 3: know at this point in the season, week nine, and
Speaker 3: I know when yours has been beat up, he's still
Speaker 3: coming back physically. I don't know. I feel as if
Speaker 3: Texas the pop that Texas showed early is not necessarily
Speaker 3: showing itself in that same way as the schedule has
Speaker 3: gotten clearly more difficult.
Speaker 1: Well, let's stay in the sec then, and let's talk
Speaker 1: about Marcel Reid please. Marcel Reid is sort of the
Speaker 1: flag bearer this week for is the backup better than
Speaker 1: the starter?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: Is that where we're at. I don't think Marcel Reid
Speaker 1: is the passer that Connor Wigman is or sometimes is,
Speaker 1: or sometimes is Noah, But there is no denying he
Speaker 1: gave them a pop. Yes, when he came in, he
Speaker 1: scored led a scoring drive. I should say on all
Speaker 1: five of the second half possessions that he took part in.
Speaker 1: Four of them were touchdowns, one was a field goal.
Speaker 1: And they brought him in at a moment in this
Speaker 1: game against LSU. They're at home. LSU seemingly had the
Speaker 1: best of their offense. They just could not crack this
Speaker 1: LSU defense, which in and of itself is kind of
Speaker 1: a story. Give it where LSU was at a year ago.
Speaker 1: They bring in Marcel Reids. Suddenly it's like the floodgates open.
Speaker 1: LSU can't stop anything. Was out there sling it around
Speaker 1: and I think only through two passes. Had one beautiful
Speaker 1: long throw, dude, that.
Speaker 3: Was a no no, no, no, no, yes throw. It
Speaker 3: was at Noah Thomas who caught it up the middle
Speaker 3: about fifty some idrs.
Speaker 1: Beautiful throw just sort of like lurches back and guns
Speaker 1: of deep hit him in stride is beautiful. But just
Speaker 1: the ability to bring him in for Mike Elko and
Speaker 1: offer something of a change of pace. The way it
Speaker 1: flipped the game and how quickly it flipped the game
Speaker 1: is really really interesting to discuss here. If I'm a
Speaker 1: Texas A and M fan, I'm wondering, now, what does
Speaker 1: the game plan look like moving forward? Because if you
Speaker 1: look at A and M schedule, the rest of the way,
Speaker 1: A and M might be the best team in the SEC,
Speaker 1: or they might at least get to that championship game
Speaker 1: in the SEC.
Speaker 3: If they're in that conversation for sure, given their record
Speaker 3: and the way that they've beaten teams, as led by
Speaker 3: their defense and defensive improvement over the course of these games.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you find yourself, I think if you're a
Speaker 1: fan of the team wondering what is the game plan?
Speaker 2: Now?
Speaker 1: Do we go back to Wigman? Is it again one
Speaker 1: of these deals where we're gonna play two quarterbacks. There's
Speaker 1: gonna be a package from Marcel Reid. His ability to
Speaker 1: step in in a relief effort, yes, and dominate LSU
Speaker 1: was incredible.
Speaker 3: It really was. And look it's at home for Texas
Speaker 3: A and M. But the atmosphere was foreboding, right, the
Speaker 3: vibes were down when LSU was up what seventeen to seven,
Speaker 3: Garrett Nusmeyer making big throws. LSU receivers was Aaron Anderson
Speaker 3: who had the long catch and run. Like there was
Speaker 3: a lot going right for LSU. They showed the clips
Speaker 3: of like guys getting into it with each other the
Speaker 3: pre game, the lsun A and like things were getting chippy.
Speaker 1: Very pedantic. It seemed. It seemed very like I was
Speaker 1: expecting either a full blown fight or it was aggressive nudges.
Speaker 1: Aggressive nudges. Yeah, it was very strange.
Speaker 3: There was like Garrett Nussmeier sort of taunting A and
Speaker 3: M players into personal fact, like there was all sorts
Speaker 3: of stuff happening, and the A and M defense.
Speaker 1: Got filthy tie over the.
Speaker 3: Course of this game. They got physical, they were hitting,
Speaker 3: They got bigger and angry over the course of this game.
Speaker 3: And you're right about Marcel Reid that comes in with
Speaker 3: his legs, with his arm, not as much perhaps as
Speaker 3: his legs, but just the general I don't know, the
Speaker 3: general mood of this A and M offense lifted so
Speaker 3: much when he got in there. Connor Wagman was struggling
Speaker 3: with accuracy and decision making. And I don't know what
Speaker 3: Marcel Reid's ceiling is as a thrower, as somebody who
Speaker 3: can lead this team against teams like Texas at the
Speaker 3: end of the year, that defense, the Georgia defense, if
Speaker 3: they play like I don't.
Speaker 4: Know, but.
Speaker 3: He seems to move the ball in the correct direction
Speaker 3: more often, and so to me, if he has more
Speaker 3: reps with the ones in practice, if Colin Klein can say, Okay,
Speaker 3: this is the new shape of our offense when we
Speaker 3: have Marcel Reid, and as this season goes on, they
Speaker 3: become pretty scary. I mean they are pretty scary. They
Speaker 3: are pretty scary. It'd be pretty scary down seventeen seven
Speaker 3: they win this game. What thirty eight twenty three, I
Speaker 3: don't know, man, that's a that's a pretty nice night
Speaker 3: if you're an aggie.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's almost as if Brian Kelly
Speaker 1: had no answer. Almost they had no answer when he
Speaker 1: came in. I mean, they just didn't they they couldn't
Speaker 1: stop them. They didn't know how to stop him. And
Speaker 1: it looked like BK was ready to pull his hair out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: on the sidelines. And you know, the same is true
Speaker 1: to some extent. I would say with the Penn State
Speaker 1: wisconsint game, which by the way, yours truly nailed the
Speaker 1: final score of twenty eight thirteen, is that true? It's
Speaker 1: one hundred percent, Trio. I went back and I checked
Speaker 1: my document.
Speaker 3: And you were like, you know, call me crazy. I
Speaker 3: could see Drew Aller getting hurt right before halftime, and
Speaker 3: there's gonna be Boprabula a little spark off the bench. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's what you said in the preview.
Speaker 1: Continue Drew Aller did injure something, some sort of lower
Speaker 1: leg injury. Now is like I guess we refer to it
Speaker 1: in college football. She kind of drives me crazy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was a knee tweak. I
Speaker 1: don't know if it was ankle. James Franklin, I think
Speaker 1: we know by now will not tell us what it
Speaker 1: is because he's prickly about these sorts of things. But
Speaker 1: whatever it was, Drew didn't come back in the game,
Speaker 1: and that meant it was bow time. It was time
Speaker 1: for Penn State's version of Doctor Bow was in effect.
Speaker 1: Trace mcsorly two point zero, And I felt kind of
Speaker 1: crazy thinking this as I was watching bo Prabula just
Speaker 1: move the ball at will out there with this offense.
Speaker 1: But I started genuinely having thoughts like should this guy
Speaker 1: be the starter? And I don't think he's gotten near
Speaker 1: the ceiling of Drew Maler And I almost feel dirty
Speaker 1: even thinking it. But there was definitely a shift when
Speaker 1: he came in. Their ability to use all of the
Speaker 1: running backs kind of in tandem playoff that read option
Speaker 1: that he runs pretty well. He threw the ball pretty well.
Speaker 1: I have seen other instances of bo Pribuela where he
Speaker 1: does not throw the ball nearly as well. But they
Speaker 1: had this defense on skates. This defense much like the
Speaker 1: LSU defense I'm talking about. Wisconsin here was not prepared
Speaker 1: for Prebuela to come in and have that kind of impact.
Speaker 1: They were prepared for him to come in at moments,
Speaker 1: a package down by the goal line if you need
Speaker 1: a third and one, that type of thing, but certainly
Speaker 1: not to play the entirety of the second half. He
Speaker 1: was really good. He looked really good, He was in command.
Speaker 1: It just kept much like the A and M thing,
Speaker 1: just kind of kept humming. It felt like momentum was
Speaker 1: entirely at their back, and again Penn State ends up
Speaker 1: getting a w road spot in Madison. Now they go
Speaker 1: next week into Ohio State, which of course will preview
Speaker 1: on Thursday. But a big road win and he was
Speaker 1: able to help change their fortunes.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the other side, Wisconsin's offense, I don't know
Speaker 3: what you do at this point. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: a passing game will exist against a quality team in
Speaker 3: the near future. For Wisconsin as much as they move
Speaker 3: the ball in a balanced way, I believe. Against Rutgers
Speaker 3: and Purdue and to a lesser extent Northwestern, he scored
Speaker 3: twenty plus points. That counts to something against equality defense.
Speaker 3: And if you look at what Penn State fans do
Speaker 3: not love Tom Allen, they don't love him that much,
Speaker 3: especially early on in games when teams are able to
Speaker 3: come out and execute a game plan with not a
Speaker 3: ton of resistance. You saw it against USC obviously. You
Speaker 3: saw it earlier in the season against team like Bowling
Speaker 3: Green and Wisconsin was able to move the ball with
Speaker 3: some success early. And that's another team that seems to
Speaker 3: get stronger as the game goes on, bringing a little
Speaker 3: bit more pressure in the second half. But Wisconsin, like
Speaker 3: there has to be an off season retreat to one
Speaker 3: of the thousands of lakes in the great state of
Speaker 3: Wisconsin to say, what are we doing on offense? Who
Speaker 3: are the quarterbacks we need to be recruiting, What types
Speaker 3: of offensive linemen should we be recruiting. How much money
Speaker 3: are we throwing at receivers in the portal are we
Speaker 3: throwing are we running five tight end sets? What are
Speaker 3: we doing? What is the actual vision for this offense
Speaker 3: because you bring in Phil Longo, who had all sorts
Speaker 3: of success in a couple different places. They don't have
Speaker 3: the receivers to be wide open. They have good running
Speaker 3: back play here and there. The offensive line play is
Speaker 3: uneven over the course of the season. And it'd be
Speaker 3: cool if Braydon Locke worked out. It doesn't seem like
Speaker 3: he's working out. He didn't obviously win the starting job
Speaker 3: for this team, and so I think there's a lot
Speaker 3: of inward searching that needs to be done with Wisconsin
Speaker 3: because it's just not happening against these quality teams.
Speaker 1: Well, the irony is that he did have guys open
Speaker 1: in this game, and well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, drops in it.
Speaker 1: Yeah he had guys open. He was horrible.
Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's.
Speaker 1: Try not to use language like that, but throws well,
Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. There were moments
Speaker 1: in this game where he I jotted down in our
Speaker 1: note sheet that he like forgot to do the firmware update. Right,
Speaker 1: he was like glitching really bad. One hop Charlie's airmailing it.
Speaker 3: Like air mailing like six yard outs. Yeah, it was
Speaker 3: really bad.
Speaker 1: The interception, the pick six that he threw that kind
Speaker 1: of swung momentum in favor of Penn State. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know how. I mean, they're wearing white, all literally
Speaker 1: all white in the middle of threw it right close.
Speaker 1: So I just I, you know, maybe he's not the dude,
Speaker 1: right clearly, I think he's kind of made that case
Speaker 1: and he's not the dude, but given circumstances, he has
Speaker 1: to be. I think you're right, there needs to be
Speaker 1: some sort of soul searching going on. You're Luke Fickle
Speaker 1: and that offensive staff, like, it may not be the
Speaker 1: year this year, but at some point we got to
Speaker 1: figure out what we're doing here because.
Speaker 3: Or did desbon Ridder make this guy's entire career? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I hope not, because I still am a believer in
Speaker 3: Luke Fickle, because I think this defense is improving and
Speaker 3: should turn into one of the Big ten's better defenses.
Speaker 3: But and look, this is a backup quarterback. It was
Speaker 3: a backup quarterback last year, was a backup quarterback this year.
Speaker 3: It's a tough watch.
Speaker 1: It's real, it's a really tough watch. Yeah, but all
Speaker 1: due credit to Penn State. Penn State changed its game plan.
Speaker 1: They did it out of necessity. It'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what they look like next week, because it wasn't
Speaker 1: just alar denied. Dennis Sutton was out for a good
Speaker 1: chunk of the second half. They also had a lineman
Speaker 1: get hurt. So at this point in the season, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be Week ten. Everybody's a bit nicked up.
Speaker 3: I like by the way that you're like, maybe pol
Speaker 3: Pabula is the guy who's next for Penn State. Congratulations,
Speaker 3: Bo Pabula, you might be the guy maybe if Drew
Speaker 3: Aller's injured, especially Ohio State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like those odds. Yeah, frankly of Bo
Speaker 1: Pribula going against that defense. And I still think Drew
Speaker 1: Aller's the guy. But the ease with which he helped
Speaker 1: move the ball down the field with this offense. I'm
Speaker 1: only a simple man. I hear it asked that question.
Speaker 1: If this is a team that you care.
Speaker 3: About, here, who's a I was gonna say, not the
Speaker 3: guy for Penn State. Anybody in that receiver room, not
Speaker 3: pass catcher Tyler Warren is the guy for sure. He
Speaker 3: is the offensive weapon, or at least was after the
Speaker 3: USC game. And I still think has the highest ceiling
Speaker 3: of anybody who can catch the ball or do whatever
Speaker 3: with the ball on this team. There's no receivers. I
Speaker 3: tweeted out, where are all these five ten dudes? Where's
Speaker 3: kJ Hamler, Where's Johan Dotson? We're all these dudes. I
Speaker 3: know Taylor Stubblefield's is not the receivers coach anymore. Can't
Speaker 3: find a guy in Virginia. You can't find a guy
Speaker 3: in Metro Detroit. What's going on, Penn State? I was
Speaker 3: so entertained for so long. Entertain me some more, please, I.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm with you. And I don't know if it
Speaker 1: was the threat of the run that opened things up
Speaker 1: down the field, but we saw Harrison Wallace get more involved,
Speaker 1: Liam Clifford get a little bit more involved. But yeah, right,
Speaker 1: I mean Julian Fleming has basically been anonymous this season.
Speaker 1: He's had a couple good catches, had a really bad
Speaker 1: drop this game, but all things considered, that remains the question,
Speaker 1: just as it was at the start of your Penn
Speaker 1: State wins by the way twenty eight to thirteen.
Speaker 3: And we're sitting here picking up our Penn State. They
Speaker 3: were down for a chunk of this game and slowly
Speaker 3: paced their way to a comfortable.
Speaker 1: Win before we talk about more escapes because we do
Speaker 1: want to talk about Kansas State and SMU. Why don't
Speaker 1: we talk about some teams that did not have to
Speaker 1: pull any kind of escape acts. Sure, let's talk about
Speaker 1: your Oregon Ducks who won in resounding fashion at home
Speaker 1: over Illinois. We can talk about BYU going on the
Speaker 1: road as a dog man and just taking it to
Speaker 1: UCF and what that means. We can talk about Notre
Speaker 1: Dame wrecking Navy. We can talk about Bama blanking Maszoo
Speaker 1: and what that meant. There were a bunch of teams
Speaker 1: that are highly ranked this week that did sort of
Speaker 1: assert their dominance, and we don't want to make this
Speaker 1: all just a dunk contest here. Why don't we talk
Speaker 1: about some of those? So start with Oregon, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: we previewed the Oregon game. It was a rank matchup.
Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us was too sold
Speaker 1: on Illinois coming into this game. We had some expectations
Speaker 1: that maybe they'd find a way to muddy it up,
Speaker 1: but we didn't think the offense was there to go
Speaker 1: toe to toe with Oregon. What version of Oregon, what
Speaker 1: version of Illinois did we see?
Speaker 3: I mean, I think Illinois is a decent team, but
Speaker 3: I don't think decent cuts it against number one team
Speaker 3: in the country right now with how they're playing, especially
Speaker 3: in that first half. Oregon came out and absolutely shelled
Speaker 3: them both on the ground and in the air. They
Speaker 3: weren't ripping off huge plays on the ground, but it's
Speaker 3: third and three, they're picking up six, right. The drives
Speaker 3: are just going and going, and then Dylan Gabriel would
Speaker 3: find Patrick Herbert or Tesz Johnson or Jordan James out
Speaker 3: of the backfield. Kenyan Sadik like the ball was just
Speaker 3: being spread around really nicely, and Oregon just kept driving
Speaker 3: down the field in scoring and then putting a ton
Speaker 3: of pressure on Luke Altmeyer and getting punts eventual turnovers.
Speaker 3: Like it was just it was a lopsided game. The
Speaker 3: second half felt a little bit I don't know, it
Speaker 3: was thirty five to three. I think the second half
Speaker 3: felt a little bit pointless, like Oregon was in a
Speaker 3: weird gray area between should we be playing backups, let's
Speaker 3: get another touchdown, or Dylan Gabriels going through the receiving
Speaker 3: options a little bit slowly as progressions and throws a
Speaker 3: pick that was not great with the corner peeling off,
Speaker 3: and so Oregon was just sort of sluggish in the
Speaker 3: second half. But I mean the entirety of the second
Speaker 3: half was garbage time when you're up thirty five to
Speaker 3: three at half time. Oregon did a really nice job
Speaker 3: got you know, the defensive line still without Jordan Birch,
Speaker 3: did a great job. They have Michigan this coming week.
Speaker 3: Who nice little bounce back week for Michigan by the way,
Speaker 3: Yeah against Michigan State, we'll get there. But no, that
Speaker 3: was the case with Oregon. I mean, if we're going
Speaker 3: to do a sidebar here, I was telling you, like, man,
Speaker 3: what a boring situation Oregon has for me to have
Speaker 3: to watch all like Oregon, Maryland, Oregon, Michigan State, Oregon, Illinois.
Speaker 3: Can we just have Oregon, Washington State? Can we just
Speaker 3: have Oregon, cal we have Oregon, Standford, Oregon, Arizona State.
Speaker 1: Answer is no, Dan, I know, the answer is no.
Speaker 3: But like over it, Audtin, like the student section emptied
Speaker 3: out before, like the shout between the third and fourth quarter,
Speaker 3: like this is just not a resonating I know, poor
Speaker 3: number one team in the country, Tye, I know, but
Speaker 3: it just feels off to me, Well, we're gonna be
Speaker 3: in ann.
Speaker 1: Arbor next yees for that Michigan game, And so for
Speaker 1: those who are watching this live, it will definitely be
Speaker 1: a more abridged version of our Week ten recap episode.
Speaker 1: We will do our best to put something out for
Speaker 1: everybody who I know is very active in the chat
Speaker 1: and care about the midnight stream, So we'll do something.
Speaker 1: We're still figuring out exactly what that is. It may
Speaker 1: not be as all encompassing as a show like this,
Speaker 1: but Oregon at Michigan really is kind of a big one.
Speaker 1: I guess left on the schedule the rest of the way.
Speaker 1: After that, it's Maryland. They play that one in Eugene's
Speaker 1: a long trip for Maryland. They should win that one.
Speaker 3: Wisconsin is interesting, but we just talked about We've just
Speaker 3: talked about Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've got what it takes to go
Speaker 1: toe to toe. They close out against Washington, which, okay,
Speaker 1: kind of a rivalry in the Pacific Northwest, but still
Speaker 1: given the state of Washington. Right now, I feel like
Speaker 1: I like Oregon a whole lot more. I'm looking at
Speaker 1: my projection sheet now. They're a healthy favorite in that game.
Speaker 1: Two three score favorite in that game. So, for all
Speaker 1: intentsive purposes, Oregon, barring any kind of catastrophe, should be
Speaker 1: able to pencil its way into that Big Ten championship game.
Speaker 3: It's what Minnesota? Is that what you're saying that Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Minnesota's dropping half a hundo tie, it's a new era.
Speaker 1: Minnesota looked really good this week.
Speaker 3: I think Minnesota against Maryland it's Maryland. Whatever Maryland beat USC.
Speaker 3: Minnesota may have outscored themselves in their final three games
Speaker 3: from last year. Tonight, they looked really good. They looked
Speaker 3: really good in Maryland. Nice even performance continue in.
Speaker 1: That Maryland game. Yeah, Maryland a week after knocking off USC.
Speaker 1: We thought there might be some letdown potential.
Speaker 4: There was.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame wrecked Navy.
Speaker 4: Dan.
Speaker 1: Yes, we saw this coming. Did you tell me that
Speaker 1: Clatt picked Navy out right?
Speaker 3: I think so. And let's be clear, with regularity, I
Speaker 3: picked games confidently incorrect.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it ten times this past week.
Speaker 3: But this Navy Notre Dame game, I didn't. It didn't
Speaker 3: keep me up at night. I'm just Navy didn't have
Speaker 3: the defense and they hadn't played a team like Notre Dame,
Speaker 3: and the just Notre Dame defensive players just hit Navy
Speaker 3: harder than they were used to being hit these first
Speaker 3: few games.
Speaker 1: Here's a different Here's what I would tell people. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we look at forty fifty I games a week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: even if it's not the kind of thing that we're
Speaker 1: talking about on the preview, we're looking at the numbers,
Speaker 1: we're looking at the teams. We're looking just for points
Speaker 1: of interest, right, so we know all of these as
Speaker 1: they're coming up. We pay attention to this stuff. The
Speaker 1: Notre Dame Navy game Dan truly, as we look at
Speaker 1: our spreadsheets, that was one that jumped out to me
Speaker 1: as this is a huge mismatch.
Speaker 3: You just look at the size of the defensive players
Speaker 3: that they played this year.
Speaker 1: With your huge mismatch on paper. They don't play the
Speaker 1: games on paper. But no, all the data that we
Speaker 1: had at our disposal, it looked like a huge, huge mismatch.
Speaker 1: This is the four straight game that Notre Dame scored
Speaker 1: at least thirty points. Their offense continues, I think to
Speaker 1: get better. What was uncharacteristic in this game for Navy,
Speaker 1: and that could be because they were going up against
Speaker 1: maybe the better defense. Are the best defense they've seen
Speaker 1: all season. Notre Dame for six turnovers, five of which
Speaker 1: were fumbles. Navy hadn't lost a fumble at all the
Speaker 1: season coming into this game, right, so to lose five
Speaker 1: one game, it's you know, a Navy's coach talked about
Speaker 1: this in the post game a little bit, saying, well, baby,
Speaker 1: playing this one in MetLife Stadium in East Ruththerford in
Speaker 1: the middle of this undefeated season was a little too
Speaker 1: much for us. We played a little bit outside ourselves here,
Speaker 1: but by and large it was still Notre Dame was
Speaker 1: better in every facet. Six turnovers, We'll do that to you.
Speaker 1: Notre Dame scored twenty seven points off those turnovers. So
Speaker 1: not a whole lot for me to take away other
Speaker 1: than to just reiterate the trend line for Notre Dame
Speaker 1: is definitely pointed up and to the right, at least
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint.
Speaker 3: It just seemed every play for Notre Dame was positive
Speaker 3: in some way. That Riley Leonard was ripping off like
Speaker 3: eight yards of carry, Jeremiah Love was ripping off eight
Speaker 3: yards of carry. By the way. On the other side,
Speaker 3: I think it was relatively early on Blake Horvath, who
Speaker 3: I think was limited handwise, he had a bum thumb
Speaker 3: coming into this game. Sensational touchdown run oh field fifty
Speaker 3: sixty yards out, weaving in and out of Notre Dame.
Speaker 3: He just needed to do it fifteen more times for
Speaker 3: Navy to have a chance in this one. So yeah,
Speaker 3: as we started, Right before we started, I said Notre
Speaker 3: Dame one of the best wins of the season, one
Speaker 3: of the worst losses of the season, And that, I
Speaker 3: guess is the Ty hilden Brandt experience.
Speaker 1: Sometimes the best of times the worst of times.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: If I were a BYU fan right now, yes, I
Speaker 1: would not be sending us comments akin to do you
Speaker 1: believe in BYU yet?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick BYU next week? What do you have
Speaker 1: to say for not picking them this week?
Speaker 3: Who do they have next week?
Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera. Hold on Baltimore Ravens Okay, finish, Okay.
Speaker 1: There are teams like this every year where you and
Speaker 1: I are unconvinced. TCU most recently went to a national championship.
Speaker 1: We weren't convinced of TCU all year. Sometimes the occult
Speaker 1: forces of the bowler hood are ever in your favor,
Speaker 1: and so if I'm a BYU fan right now, I'm
Speaker 1: not asking for any of those things. I am saying,
Speaker 1: Tie and Dan, please keep doubting us, right, Please keep
Speaker 1: doubt genuinely saying, please keep doubting us, because every time
Speaker 1: we express any sort of concern about a matchup, as
Speaker 1: we did in this one. Okay, they're traveling to to
Speaker 1: UCF UCF. Seems like maybe they're trending a little bit better,
Speaker 1: even though they can.
Speaker 3: Use explosion plays against Iowa State.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, great against Iowa State, even though they lost
Speaker 1: that game. Please keep doubting us, because whatever we're doing,
Speaker 1: I used to do this to my own team. Frankly,
Speaker 1: the reverse jinks, it's working, It's really working. BYU was
Speaker 1: frigging dominant. Dan, they were dominant. They were really good.
Speaker 3: They were really really good Jack Rhet's laughs, really good spreads,
Speaker 3: the ball around runs really well. Had a great touchdown
Speaker 3: run saw that. I appreciate me personally. I've known you
Speaker 3: for some time now that you have both doubted BYU
Speaker 3: and are taking credit for BYU all in the same book.
Speaker 3: That is some classical.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not playing I'm not taking credit for anything,
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, no, you're saying the occult forces
Speaker 1: of you not believing in BYU is well, you don't either,
Speaker 1: responsible you don't either.
Speaker 3: Oh I picked against them, but every time I watch
Speaker 3: them like, oh, they're good, and then I pick against
Speaker 3: them because I think it's a tough situational play and
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and I'm happy to be wrong if I
Speaker 3: get to watch good football as a result of it.
Speaker 1: So BYU goes into and off week, now, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: but after that they've got the Holy War on the
Speaker 1: road at Utah. Utah lost by the way to Houston
Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen. Bad, really down bad. I don't have
Speaker 1: much hope that Utah. I mean talk about the story
Speaker 1: of the year kind of on the other side of things,
Speaker 1: with Utah just bottoming out the way that they have.
Speaker 1: They're not winning the Big twelve. They're not gonna be
Speaker 1: anywhere close to winning the Big twelve. Right, They're a
Speaker 1: four and fourteen.
Speaker 3: But what do you do with these rivalries?
Speaker 1: You throw the records out. I know you gotta throw
Speaker 1: them out. But coming out of that bye week Holy
Speaker 1: War against Utah, Yeah, home game against Kansas on the
Speaker 1: road at Arizona State. Arizona State's plucky, they're fun, They're
Speaker 1: fun close out the year against Houston. Is it time
Speaker 1: to talk to our kids realistically?
Speaker 3: Now, hold on, you're talking about Utah or BYU?
Speaker 1: No, BYU?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, realistically twelve and oh BYU? What would you
Speaker 3: be most concerned about if you are a BYU human
Speaker 3: a Byuman?
Speaker 1: Maybe that Arizona State game.
Speaker 3: Where's that game being played?
Speaker 1: It's at ASU.
Speaker 3: Is there a kickoff time?
Speaker 1: Not yet?
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree with that. I think that's a pretty
Speaker 3: dangerous spot.
Speaker 1: But on the road at Utah's a rivalry, and rivalries
Speaker 1: are always weird. We know this. I don't with the
Speaker 1: way that BYU has been trending as of late, the
Speaker 1: fact that they've got to buy before that Utah game.
Speaker 1: They might not cover the spread, but who gives it? Damn,
Speaker 1: you just want to win that rivalry game. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that Utah game. That doesn't frighten me at all
Speaker 1: the way it did at the start of the year.
Speaker 1: Not even close Kansas. Kansas is having a rough year.
Speaker 1: Kansas is two and six, could have beaten k State.
Speaker 1: Definitely illustrated the point that rivalries can be strange, but
Speaker 1: still games at home. I like their odds. It's that
Speaker 1: road game against Arizona State. Man, that's the one that
Speaker 1: I guess if there's going to be weirdness, that's probably
Speaker 1: the game I point to. But it's if you're a
Speaker 1: by human. Is that what you.
Speaker 3: Said, by human?
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doubting us and look at the schedule, and
Speaker 1: you gotta feel pretty good about it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to feel good about it. And look,
Speaker 3: here's the other thing, Ty, it's just big picture. If
Speaker 3: they are as good as you say they can be
Speaker 3: the rest of the year, even if they lose Arizona State,
Speaker 3: they could still obviously win the Big Twelve, end up
Speaker 3: in a Big Twelve championship game playoff wise. And again
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about looking ahead of everything to say, oh,
Speaker 3: who could they play against? Just in terms of a
Speaker 3: visual we could be getting December twentieth in Provo, that's
Speaker 3: a nice little vista time in the winter. I went
Speaker 3: to college football in the mountains up High. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1: There are only two teams in the Big Twelve right
Speaker 1: now that are unbeaten in conference. One of them is BYU,
Speaker 1: the other is Iowa State. Kansas State had its own
Speaker 1: survival act. The twenty nine to twenty seven needed a
Speaker 1: late field goal to upend their rival Kansas and the
Speaker 1: Sunflower showdown Case State is four and one in conference
Speaker 1: and currently a time of recording, both Cincinnati and Colorado
Speaker 1: are playing. They're both one lost teams within the Big Twelve.
Speaker 1: Colorado was winning at present.
Speaker 3: What's the score right now?
Speaker 1: Cod is? I don't know what the score is.
Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe twenty four to fourteen the
Speaker 3: last I checked.
Speaker 1: Okay, So it stands to reason that after this week,
Speaker 1: we're going to have a clear amount of separation banding
Speaker 1: going on within that conference, and we will know kind
Speaker 1: of who the contenders are. We're have pretty good sense
Speaker 1: for it as we turn the page go into November
Speaker 1: next week. How do you feel about k State?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 3: I feel good because they played an a rivalry game
Speaker 3: and they pulled it out despite making a ton of mistakes.
Speaker 3: I thought the way they ended that game, especially on defense,
Speaker 3: We're like, just send dudes at Jalen Daniels that they
Speaker 3: can't They just can't keep up with this pass rush
Speaker 3: and sending pressure, and they were forcing Jalen Daniels to
Speaker 3: scramble and throw on the dead run or try to
Speaker 3: pick up extra yardage, and you had a big fumble
Speaker 3: at the end that Kansas State turned into a law.
Speaker 3: You said it was a fifty plus yard field goal.
Speaker 3: I believe fifty one. Ye, with under a couple minutes left.
Speaker 3: Avery Johnson wasn't perfect, but the best of Avery Johnson
Speaker 3: was again quite impressive. It seemed like Kansas State was
Speaker 3: in position at least a couple times in the last
Speaker 3: few minutes of this game. Or excuse me, Kansas to
Speaker 3: just win it, to just stomp that, whether it's a
Speaker 3: four minute offense, whether it's just picking up key first downs.
Speaker 3: They couldn't. They couldn't get out of their own way.
Speaker 3: The nice thing about Kansas State. You asked how I
Speaker 3: feel about Kansas State. I really like that they won
Speaker 3: at Colorado. In terms of potential tiebreakers in this next
Speaker 3: four or five weeks, I think that could be quite meaningful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's a very interesting conference.
Speaker 1: We've been saying it the whole way through that it's,
Speaker 1: by for my money, the most interesting conference. It is, Okay,
Speaker 1: and maybe the SEC has a claim to that title
Speaker 1: given some of the new storylines that have emerged there.
Speaker 1: But the big twelve of them where that is headed,
Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to the wire. It's gonna end
Speaker 1: up coming down to like the last two or three
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, and that's gonna make it a
Speaker 1: lot of fun for us to watch and talk about
Speaker 1: here on the show. So Kansas State was one team
Speaker 1: that did pull a survival act. Another one was SMUU.
Speaker 1: SMU needed a failed two point conversion in overtime to
Speaker 1: remain unbeaten in the ACC and knock off Duke. Duke
Speaker 1: put a hell of a game out there, Man twenty
Speaker 1: eight to twenty seven was the final really good game
Speaker 1: from Malik Murphy and SMU struggled. SMU had three picks
Speaker 1: from Kevin Jennings. Definitely was not their cleanest game in
Speaker 1: the world, but didn't cover eleven and a half. Did
Speaker 1: end up winning the game here Survive in advance.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how great it was.
Speaker 3: Pankell the receiver for Duke who cover the I mean
Speaker 3: he was the go to dude. He is the go
Speaker 3: to dude. Caught the overtime touchdown and they go for
Speaker 3: two and don't get it. It wasn't a ton downfield
Speaker 3: from Malik Murphy and Duke. How hard is it to
Speaker 3: turn the ball over six times and win a game
Speaker 3: on the road against a pretty good team. I don't
Speaker 3: know how many times that has ever happened. Where I
Speaker 3: mean Duke. I don't think Duke had a single turnover. No,
Speaker 3: this was loading the bases every inning and being shut out.
Speaker 3: The runners left in scoring position for Duke because you
Speaker 3: look at what happened with Duke drives after they were
Speaker 3: able to turn the ball over. It was like, oh,
Speaker 3: Duke picked off Kevin Jennings and punted it. Duke picked
Speaker 3: off Kenning Jennings and missed a field goal. Duke recovered
Speaker 3: a fumble and turned it over on downs. And it's
Speaker 3: a very difficult thing that SMU was able to do
Speaker 3: in winning this game. But the defense came up big.
Speaker 3: The team was led by its defense and Win Your
Speaker 3: Clunkers and SMU won an all time clunker against Duke tonight.
Speaker 3: Crazy impressive for SMU to stay alive in this acc race.
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Speaker 1: pro move. Here's the other thing. I'm going to reiterate
Speaker 1: this point. Much of the discussion next week is going
Speaker 1: to be about Ohio State Penn State. It's the biggest
Speaker 1: game of the weekend. Okay, there will definitely be, at
Speaker 1: least on this show a fair amount of discussion about
Speaker 1: Oregon Michigan because we're going to be there. The game
Speaker 1: that is not going to get enough attention is pit
Speaker 1: against SMU. The game's at SMU. Yeah, that game has real, true,
Speaker 1: monstrous significance in the acc rais mm hmm. I'm curious
Speaker 1: to see what the point spread looks like. I have
Speaker 1: not even thought about who's going to be favored in
Speaker 1: that game, but that to me looks like a hell
Speaker 1: of a game that is going to have a ton
Speaker 1: riding on it with respect to who stands to maybe
Speaker 1: pick up the torch if somebody like Miami drops it
Speaker 1: with one of their road games down the stretch. I
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be Clemson that stumbles. I think if
Speaker 1: anyone stumbles, it'll be Miami. Miami probably would have something
Speaker 1: to say about that after destroying their rival Florida State
Speaker 1: earlier today. Is well, but just saying there's a lot
Speaker 1: riding Oh yeah game and people need to pay attention
Speaker 1: to it, start thinking about it. Will definitely put it
Speaker 1: as one of our pick them selections on run the board.
Speaker 1: That that, to me, for my money, might be like
Speaker 1: the the second biggest game next weekend.
Speaker 3: By the way, you just keep saying the word pick
Speaker 3: it's a real tough time to be a little too
Speaker 3: pick prone for Kevin Jennings against Pitt coming up, who
Speaker 3: three pick sixes in the first half Thursday night, all
Speaker 3: by linebackers, all by linebackers.
Speaker 1: It was five picks total. Yes, for Kyle McCord.
Speaker 3: Pit's a good team. You gift Pit three touchdowns on defense,
Speaker 3: They're a pretty difficult team to knock off. I mean,
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 1: If you look at the box score beyond those five interceptions.
Speaker 3: No, I watched the game.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at the if you didn't watch
Speaker 1: the game, it if you just look at the box score,
Speaker 1: the stats do not sing anything Pit right. It was
Speaker 1: truly a function of they scored twenty one points via turnovers.
Speaker 1: They got two more turnovers. Field position was very much
Speaker 1: in their favor.
Speaker 3: No, they game g need this TI, I.
Speaker 1: Mean it was it was like a total hack. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the game came off the swivel pretty quickly for Syracuse.
Speaker 1: Syracuse is not that bad of a team.
Speaker 3: Obviously, they had a worst the worst night of the year.
Speaker 1: This was like their absolute clunker that we saw on
Speaker 1: display and pitch just sort of all they needed to
Speaker 1: do was not screw it up, and they didn't.
Speaker 3: Well. And it's also it's especially bad because there weren't
Speaker 3: I mean, it was this and was Liberty Thursday or Friday?
Speaker 3: Liberty kind of saw Liberty was Thursday. Yeah, there are
Speaker 3: a few games Thursday, Friday. Everybody's way right. This is
Speaker 3: peeing your pants during the homecoming King dance, the home whatever,
Speaker 3: the prom court. I was not a homecoming King tie
Speaker 3: like you no excuse me?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, doing a podcast, believe me. I wasn't homecoming King.
Speaker 3: No, it's everybody watching. It's everybody watching it in slow motion,
Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's their worst night. They'll bounce back,
Speaker 3: They'll be okay.
Speaker 1: So we'll see what Pitt looks like next week. They're
Speaker 1: not going to get They probably won't get five interceptions
Speaker 1: off of Kevin Jennings.
Speaker 3: He did throw three, but he through three tonight six
Speaker 3: total turnovers.
Speaker 1: So perhaps they'll learn something that is meaningful. I think
Speaker 1: for our purposes here, you mentioned the Kennesaw thing. I'll
Speaker 1: bring that up please, because that was sort of the
Speaker 1: biggest upset of the year so far, if you can
Speaker 1: believe it. Kennesaw State, a newcomer to the FBS Rakes
Speaker 1: squares off against Liberty, who was undefeated, who had some
Speaker 1: playoff aspirations. I don't know how real those were given
Speaker 1: strength of schedule, but Liberty was in the conversation.
Speaker 3: You can't lose to arguably one of the seven worst
Speaker 3: teams in FBS football.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Liberty came into this game about a four touchdown favorite.
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seven at close. They end
Speaker 1: up losing this game to Kanasaw State. Is Kanasaw State's
Speaker 1: first win at the FBS level. It's almost unprecedented that
Speaker 1: this would happen in the manner that it did.
Speaker 3: Was that candisaw.
Speaker 1: But still you wouldn't expect Liberty is going to drop
Speaker 1: a game like this.
Speaker 3: No, it was real ugly too on Liberty's behalf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very ugly game on their part, almost as
Speaker 1: if they didn't take it seriously.
Speaker 3: So that's as if.
Speaker 1: That's that's another one that will have some playoff implications,
Speaker 1: at least in the G five level. Yes, and G
Speaker 1: five thoughts too.
Speaker 3: It's not even implications, it's a conclusion. Liberty is not
Speaker 3: going to the playoff.
Speaker 1: Liberty is not going to the playoff.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 1: The one team we have not talked about is Alabama. Yes, correct,
Speaker 1: we have not. And this game against missoo so, Brady
Speaker 1: Cook gave it a go. Brady Cook hurt his ankle
Speaker 1: pretty badly a week ago, one of those deals again
Speaker 1: where he went to the hospital during the game, got
Speaker 1: the MRI, came back, got some stray looks from people
Speaker 1: who are out in the parking lot, like let's see
Speaker 1: what's going on here, ends up going back in the game.
Speaker 1: They get a hard fought win against Auburn. Fast forward
Speaker 1: to this week. He tries to give it a go
Speaker 1: first off, even before he got hurt again. It wasn't
Speaker 1: really working, but he's out there. He ends up hurting
Speaker 1: his hand. Drew Pine comes in at that point. It
Speaker 1: feels like game over. Drew Pine was not good. Drew
Speaker 1: Pine has never been good. This is me talking as
Speaker 1: a score Notre Dame fan. Right, ended up throwing for
Speaker 1: like sixty some odd yards had three picks in this game.
Speaker 1: He was not going to elevate Missoo to the point
Speaker 1: where they could beat Alabama. I guess my question to
Speaker 1: you is did we learn anything from Alabama in this
Speaker 1: game or was this just total system failure on behalf
Speaker 1: of Missoo because of their own circle of stances with
Speaker 1: their offense.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean with regard to where the headspace was
Speaker 3: last week of Alabama fans after losing to Tennessee, we
Speaker 3: learned that it was a nice weekend for Alabama fans.
Speaker 3: It was a nice day for Alabama, especially on defense,
Speaker 3: to beat up on a wounded team. And so no,
Speaker 3: I don't know if we learn anything necessarily new, especially
Speaker 3: with how Miszoo struggled against A and M on the
Speaker 3: road a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago.
Speaker 3: But I only watched a little bit of this game.
Speaker 3: And here's my editor's note, Drew Pine, whatever you want
Speaker 3: to say about him.
Speaker 1: Be Clemson.
Speaker 3: I was good enough to be Clemson. That's my editors.
Speaker 3: My editor's hat right now is we should also mention
Speaker 3: in audio italics good enough to be Clemson. But yeah,
Speaker 3: it was just it was not going to happen. With
Speaker 3: Miszoo's struggles this year, Missoo's inconsistencies generating bigger plays on offense,
Speaker 3: you need to be able to do that against an
Speaker 3: Alabama defense that is tough to me. And how you
Speaker 3: get Alabama is by getting after the Alabama offense, making
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe see things that aren't there, turning them one dimensional,
Speaker 3: and Jalen Molroe doing everything with his legs and his arm,
Speaker 3: targeting Ryan Williams as many times as humanly possible instead
Speaker 3: of spreading it around and giving the defense different looks.
Speaker 3: And Misszoo's not built for that this year. They're just not,
Speaker 3: especially not when they're giving the ball back, I mean
Speaker 3: through three picks Drew Pine, I guess Alabama. Yeah, it's
Speaker 3: just got uglier and uglier and ugli A good win
Speaker 3: for Alabama. Misszoo twenty twenty four is not Missoo twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, and it's It's been one of the
Speaker 1: I think disappointing storylines this year missu because of the
Speaker 1: expectations they had a lot back. It just doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like the offense has given him the same pop as
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. Maybe losing Cody Schrader had
Speaker 1: more of an impact than people had thought coming in.
Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual cause for it is.
Speaker 1: We can unpack that at some point in the future.
Speaker 1: The SEC race, though, now by virtue of what we
Speaker 1: saw happen in week nine, look something like this. We've
Speaker 1: got one team undefeated in conference. That's your Texas A
Speaker 1: and A. Maggie's Dan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, my team, yep.
Speaker 1: Five And oh we've got four teams with one loss, Georgia, Texas,
Speaker 1: Tennessee and LSU.
Speaker 3: And let's see Georgia plays Tennessee for sure, Yes, yep,
Speaker 3: Texas will play A and M. Who else is A
Speaker 3: and M has South Carolina. I believe on the road
Speaker 3: this comle week that is a letdown. It's not a
Speaker 3: look ahead, but is a letdown spot of letdown spot
Speaker 3: like it is of epic proportion. I agree.
Speaker 1: We will talk about that one for sure, and of course,
Speaker 1: but with the fact that some of these teams do
Speaker 1: play each other m hm, LSU stands to.
Speaker 3: They've only lost once, only as one loss, but.
Speaker 1: LSU stands play a team like in Alabama, which could
Speaker 1: be an interesting game right coming up here. So there's
Speaker 1: I think a fair amount of upward mobility for some
Speaker 1: of these teams that are kind of in that next
Speaker 1: tier down that should go without saying in the SEC
Speaker 1: where everybody always beats everybody. But right now, if you're
Speaker 1: an A and M fan, you gotta fel pretty good
Speaker 1: about where you stand. It's probably beyond your wildest dreams
Speaker 1: at this point that you'd be atop the conference, especially
Speaker 1: the expanding conference now with Texas in it. Right it's
Speaker 1: just it's sort of like an incredible fairy tale with
Speaker 1: Mike Elko taking over, with there being some turnover, and
Speaker 1: yet the way things will fall and you're five to
Speaker 1: zero conference, seven to one overall.
Speaker 3: By the way, just because you're mentioning the teams with
Speaker 3: the fewest losses in the SEC, does not mean that
Speaker 3: Vandy does not have two top ten opponents to finish
Speaker 3: out the year and might have a little something to
Speaker 3: do with how the final standings shake out in Tennessee
Speaker 3: and LSU. Who can't wait a few.
Speaker 1: Other things here, Dan, We have been going through our
Speaker 1: top twelve lists, items that we have jotted down that
Speaker 1: place jumped out to us this week. The Boise State
Speaker 1: story continues to be very very interesting. Yes, that game
Speaker 1: on Friday night against UNLV was Barnburner.
Speaker 3: It was. I only watched some of it so far.
Speaker 3: I will do more of it on the Tuesday show.
Speaker 3: Continue really really good game, high level game. Enjoyed it thoroughly.
Speaker 3: Ashton gent with the go ahead touchdown late in that
Speaker 3: one to ultimately give Boise the win.
Speaker 1: But two teams that I think probably end up meeting
Speaker 1: again for the Mount West title, and I'll look forward
Speaker 1: to that matchup. I think Boise is in control now
Speaker 1: of that G five playoff spot, especially with Navy taking
Speaker 1: a loss, with Liberty taking a loss. Tulane maybe trying
Speaker 1: to find its way back into this thing, but they've
Speaker 1: got two losses.
Speaker 3: And two losses good law. I mean, it's what Oklahoma
Speaker 3: and Kansas State.
Speaker 1: They would need to absolutely need to win their conference,
Speaker 1: and they would need to do so going away. But
Speaker 1: for where I'm seeing it, I think it's Boise. I
Speaker 1: also think Armies got an Interestmy's still there. Army's got
Speaker 1: an interesting case here. There's a pretty good chance that
Speaker 1: it's going to be Army with one loss after Notre
Speaker 1: Dame versus Navy versus Navy with one loss for that
Speaker 1: American title. It could happen. I do think the Navy
Speaker 1: road is harder. They do have to play two lane
Speaker 1: down the stretch here, But it stands to reason that
Speaker 1: Army also is going to be part of that conversation.
Speaker 1: I just I stand by what I've said. I can't
Speaker 1: envision Boise being left out because of Ashton Gent, provided
Speaker 1: they don't lose. I can't imagine the committee would want
Speaker 1: to leave a superstar like that out of the playoff, who.
Speaker 3: By the way, was not a huge factor in terms
Speaker 3: of production, obviously a huge factor in terms of attention
Speaker 3: and gravity and UNL his entire game plan was focused
Speaker 3: on stopping Ashton Gent. He never really got loose consistently,
Speaker 3: to the credit of Barry otom in this UNLV defense.
Speaker 3: But they were unable to get a Ton going consistently
Speaker 3: on their own offense, and so Maddox Madson made plays
Speaker 3: and really really impressive when on the road. I was
Speaker 3: just distracted because Freddy Freeman was dripping the heart out
Speaker 3: of Yankee fans everywhere. How they are distracted to two
Speaker 3: up to nil tie buna.
Speaker 1: Let's read some tweets, all right, Let's read some tweets
Speaker 1: play with me. Who the hell am I? We put
Speaker 1: a weekly call out across all of our socials asking hey,
Speaker 1: who are you a fan of? And how are you
Speaker 1: feeling right now? Had a bunch of those come in.
Speaker 1: I'll actually start because I'm going to role play a
Speaker 1: little bit and say, if I were a Virginia Tech fan,
Speaker 1: I'd be really happy with the way my defense played today. Yes,
Speaker 1: it was sort of a how shall I put it,
Speaker 1: inconsistent offensive effort from the hookies today, but it was
Speaker 1: a really good showing against Georgia Tech, holding them to
Speaker 1: six points. Granted, not the same Georgia Tech without Haines King,
Speaker 1: but this is a win that I think Virginia Tech
Speaker 1: fans need. So if I'm a Virginia Tech fan, I
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about the state of the defense.
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm an Indiana fan, keep it going.
Speaker 3: Because Tavin Jackson wasn't always all that great. I would
Speaker 3: say a lot of a lot of real short stuff,
Speaker 3: a lot of picklebally justice Ellison was he ran hard
Speaker 3: that he didn't open up a ton, but the defense
Speaker 3: got after it against Washington. I'm thrilled if if I'm
Speaker 3: an Indiana fan and I'm looking around the sports see
Speaker 3: how other backup quarterbacks fared on Saturday. I'm thrilled to
Speaker 3: get out of that with added attention. What game day
Speaker 3: was in town? Nope, I know Lee Carso was there.
Speaker 3: It was a great, great performance from from Indiana, all
Speaker 3: things considered, without Curtis rock I'm thrilled.
Speaker 1: If we're going to keep plugging away here and we're
Speaker 1: going to read some of these I yess on the
Speaker 1: topic of Indiana real quick, please, How does Indiana stack
Speaker 1: up against Ohio State realistically.
Speaker 3: After today or before today.
Speaker 1: If we assume that Curtis Roark is going to be back.
Speaker 3: No, I know I'm saying, but like now that we
Speaker 3: have more information after today, the vulnerability of Ohio State
Speaker 3: up front on offense, the games at Ohio State, games
Speaker 3: at Ohio State. Okay, Ohio State will not be as
Speaker 3: frustrating every week as they were this week, but they
Speaker 3: might be as beat up on that offensive line for
Speaker 3: a while. So how do they stack up? I think
Speaker 3: Curtis Rourke and Indiana beat today's specific version of Ohio State.
Speaker 1: I do that's today, just wondering, just wondering.
Speaker 3: This was Ohio State's worst day of the season. Now
Speaker 3: an average day for Indiana against an average day for
Speaker 3: Ohio State. I think Ohio State's better. I think they
Speaker 3: win that game by ten to thirteen points.
Speaker 1: If I'm a Louisville fan, I'm proud of how the
Speaker 1: team came back and knocked off Boston College. Yeah, twenty
Speaker 1: one unanswered in the final eighteen minutes. It's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: Take that. If I'm a Florida State fan, I'm just
Speaker 1: like beside myself. They're one and seven at this point
Speaker 1: after getting thrown.
Speaker 3: How many points stand they finished the game with against
Speaker 3: Miami seven? Yeah, just not they scored that early, right.
Speaker 1: Not a good show. It was a really bad game.
Speaker 1: If I'm a Rutgers fan, I wonder what's happened to
Speaker 1: my defense? Yeah, because the defense has really bottomed out
Speaker 1: these last couple weeks. So I'm a Minnesota fan, which
Speaker 1: I am. It is still bros before nos, my friend.
Speaker 1: Three twenty four touchdowns from Minnesota superstar Max Brosmer, And
Speaker 1: this was kind of the performance you were waiting for. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Brosmur. It was Darius Taylor, it was
Speaker 1: Daniel Jackson, those three, the Big three as we call
Speaker 1: it here at Minnesota head Shutters. They were behind the
Speaker 1: forty eight point output from that Minnesota offense, so I
Speaker 1: would feel pretty good about that, definitely. Any thoughts from
Speaker 1: Arthur ballerhood Dan.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Virginia fan infuriated. Yeah, I agree with that.
Speaker 3: That was North Carolina getting right against Virginia today. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Iowa fan feeling like, are we getting better? Or is
Speaker 3: Northwestern just that bad? Two things can be true. Yes,
Speaker 3: and you did it with Benching Kde McNamara for Brendan Sullivan. Yep,
Speaker 3: I believe Northwestern transfer.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good I mean, winning is good, Winning
Speaker 3: is always good. Iowa State fan, and I'm thankful it's
Speaker 3: a bye week. I think that's a great point of view.
Speaker 3: I'm a Baylor fan. I'm feeling like Dave finally binged
Speaker 3: episodes of Fixer Upper. Baylor, by the way, are they
Speaker 3: back from the dead. I think Baylor and TCU got
Speaker 3: a little bit spicier today. TCU pulled out a weird one.
Speaker 3: Baylor has an offense. If Baylor finishes that Colorado game,
Speaker 3: We're talking about Baylor twenty seven minutes ago, just in
Speaker 3: terms of what their record is and the way that
Speaker 3: they were able to kind of pacet Oklahoma State today.
Speaker 3: I mean, at least the Baylor offense going at the
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State defense because the you know, Alan Bowman and
Speaker 3: Brendan Presley. I mean, that's kind of all. It's the
Speaker 3: only situation, that's the only receiver. He kind of looks
Speaker 3: at Alan Bowman for better or worse. But Brendan Presley
Speaker 3: was great. Baylor woke up or not Baylor woke up,
Speaker 3: but Baylor keeps it going. And you look at the
Speaker 3: rest of Baylor's schedule and you can pull it up tie.
Speaker 1: It's pretty great.
Speaker 3: If they're scoring forty a game, it's pretty great.
Speaker 1: They do have an offense.
Speaker 3: They have an offense.
Speaker 1: They absolutely have an offense. The rest of the way,
Speaker 1: it's TCU. You mentioned, got TCU next week. Then they
Speaker 1: go into a buy close out the year at West
Speaker 1: Virginia at Houston Home against Kansas A.
Speaker 3: J's a Michigan fan where this offense has been all year. Okay,
Speaker 3: So they run, they call a really successful trick play
Speaker 3: and Davis Swarren, while not incredible, completes passes for first downs.
Speaker 3: He is the quarterback that gives him the best chance
Speaker 3: to complete passes downfield and in a very losable spot
Speaker 3: to Michigan State, who started out that game quite successfully.
Speaker 3: Michigan stayed with it. I think Michigan's defense is maybe
Speaker 3: above average in this moment, and that's okay, because that's
Speaker 3: good enough to beat Michigan State. They're able to move
Speaker 3: the ball. A nice win at home in front of
Speaker 3: a home crowd.
Speaker 1: Twenty four to seventeen is a really nice win.
Speaker 3: Ohio State fan Alarmed Tennessee fan feeling thankful that the
Speaker 3: only the Yankees are making me miserable this evening, as
Speaker 3: I could not handle the double misery. Ty, I got
Speaker 3: to introduce you to Tommy Edmond. He is just yet Babe,
Speaker 3: Ruth Tank, Aaron and Ted Williams all in a tiny,
Speaker 3: tiny little package. I'm a Texas Tech fan. I'm feeling
Speaker 3: like we're a five and three two that might not
Speaker 3: hit six wins. That is not a great feeling.
Speaker 1: No, that's not good at all.
Speaker 3: The slow bleed so yeah, Baron Morton injured in this
Speaker 3: one and TCU pulling them out not always pretty. Put
Speaker 3: TCU winning record, gonna go bowling, it's pretty decent.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I had to watch a ton of this game. Excited
Speaker 3: to watch it Sunday or Monday.
Speaker 1: The only thing that I'll close the segment out with
Speaker 1: is saying, if I am a fan of Group of
Speaker 1: five football, the MAC is pretty damn awesome right now,
Speaker 1: the Mac. Yeah, the MAC looks great. So we had
Speaker 1: the Bowling Green Toledo rivalry, which we are a ton
Speaker 1: of points in.
Speaker 3: I almost picked the winner of that game. By the way,
Speaker 3: you had one of two teams to pick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty one to twenty six, Bowling Green, your Bowling Green.
Speaker 1: So our Falcons knocked off Toledo. Nice win for Bowling Green.
Speaker 1: Bowling Green obviously has taken teams like A and M
Speaker 1: and Penn State to the wire, so it's was probably
Speaker 1: foolishould be to not pick them.
Speaker 3: Well, they're better on the road too, Yeah, better.
Speaker 1: On the road, but Bowling Green with a nice win.
Speaker 1: We had Western Michigan knocking off Kent State. That in
Speaker 1: and of itself isn't really that big of a surprise.
Speaker 1: Kent State is not a very good team. However, Western
Speaker 1: is undefeated and now alone atop the back. Yes and
Speaker 1: weaknight maction to decide their fate is going to occur
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks just kind of file that
Speaker 1: away ball State knocked off NIU, talking about the worst
Speaker 1: loss of the year for Notre Dame. Right, and I
Speaker 1: use defense collapsed after a field goal to take the
Speaker 1: lead with like fifteen seconds to go. They allow a
Speaker 1: thirty four yard pass that lets ball State into field
Speaker 1: goal range. Five of nius eight games this season have
Speaker 1: been one score games. So Tom Hammond or Tom Hammond,
Speaker 1: Tom ham Mick, excuse me, different guy has definitely had
Speaker 1: his uh his season on eggshells. And to close things
Speaker 1: out here.
Speaker 3: By the way, did you hear he's just like a
Speaker 3: little sidebar here during the Notre Dame. I guess you
Speaker 3: weren't watching the Notre Dame game super closely today because
Speaker 3: you were in and out and watch it after the fact.
Speaker 3: It was revealed that Marcus Freeman shows Notre Dame the
Speaker 3: NIU game before every game in the late like least
Speaker 3: chill thing, Like, coach, we know it was a bad Saturday,
Speaker 3: we were there, we know it's not going to happen again.
Speaker 3: And he's like, guess we're watching, Yeah, we're watching Homeward
Speaker 3: Bound again. You know, he was just just every single
Speaker 3: Saturday they're watching the NIU game man.
Speaker 1: The beatings tough beat The beatings will continue until improves
Speaker 1: exactly works right. Thank you everybody for writing in. We
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Speaker 3: Jackson Corville? If I got that right? For ball State
Speaker 3: four or five from forty seven to fifty and fifty two,
Speaker 3: k Man Makai Hughes Tulane went for nearly two hundred
Speaker 3: on the ground and that I guess it was a
Speaker 3: shootout win over North Texas, covering by half a point.
Speaker 3: Taylor Green, by the way, should point out I know
Speaker 3: there are like popular weight loss drugs that people are
Speaker 3: taking in twenty twenty four. If you truly want to
Speaker 3: lose weight and stick to a program, play offense for
Speaker 3: Arkansas when they play against Mississippi State. You will get
Speaker 3: You will have so many calories gone from your life.
Speaker 3: Everybody got exercise for Arkansas against Mississippi State today. So
Speaker 3: Taylor Green six touchdowns, almost four hundred total yards, cam
Speaker 3: Lockridge at Fresno seven tackles, two picks. Chandler Morris has
Speaker 3: mentioned North Texas excuse me in the losing effort. Cooper
Speaker 3: Lega for Tulsa a crazy comeback against Utsa, legs and
Speaker 3: arms for Lega. Fernando Mendoza Cal absolutely obliterated Oregon State.
Speaker 3: Darquis Hunter went for to seventy eight. Did I see
Speaker 3: that number correctly? And they didn't watch much of these.
Speaker 3: They be Kentucky, They be Kentucky. The elite loser. Hugh
Speaker 3: Freese was a winner, so gotta give him credit there.
Speaker 3: Braylon Russell, the running back for Arkansas, went off, Dawson
Speaker 3: Pendergrass on the ground for Baylor and through the air
Speaker 3: a little bit, I believe, coleman Owen for Ohio went off,
Speaker 3: and Roderick Daniels. It wasn't all bad for SMU on
Speaker 3: offense with the turnovers. He was great as a weapon
Speaker 3: through the air for the Mustangs. So so, your dudes,
Speaker 3: there are two other dudes that need to be mentioned here, Dan,
Speaker 3: please please do they do?
Speaker 1: They do play for the BYU fighting Cougars. Oh? Okay.
Speaker 1: One is holder Sam vander Haarr. The other kicker Will Farren,
Speaker 1: who's a wild fake field goal? Yes, I have never
Speaker 1: seen this version of a fake field goal in my life.
Speaker 1: So to reiterate, we have seen the play. It is
Speaker 1: burned into college football lore, the fake field goal of
Speaker 1: the holder taking the snap no look, tossing it back
Speaker 1: over his head, of course to the kicker who is
Speaker 1: sort of running what amounts to a pitch play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: who goes around the end seemingly to get a first
Speaker 1: down or a touchdown. We've seen this before. LSU did
Speaker 1: it very famously. What I have not seen happen is
Speaker 1: what Sam Vanderhardt did in this BYU game, which is
Speaker 1: instead of throwing it back over his head, instead almost
Speaker 1: acting like he fumbled the snap, then springing his legs
Speaker 1: up and snapping the ball back to the kicker as
Speaker 1: he is running around in the two It was two snaps,
Speaker 1: it was one play. It was a successful fake field
Speaker 1: goal that went for I think about eight yards and
Speaker 1: a first down for BYU. When it's working, it's really
Speaker 1: working again, occult forces of the verballerhood here with BYU.
Speaker 3: And I think the kicker had the opportunity to throw
Speaker 3: it on the play as well, and he did was
Speaker 3: to run it. Yeah, he did.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 1: It was a fake field goal that kind of looked
Speaker 1: like a fake field goal was definitely a planned endeavor.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you don't.
Speaker 1: Technically, that doesn't just happen because you're trying to make
Speaker 1: no no, no. He it was a deliberate snap back
Speaker 1: between his legs to the kicker who ran for a
Speaker 1: first down did have the option to throw. I have
Speaker 1: never seen if anybody has seen another play like this,
Speaker 1: send me the YouTube clip, send me a still image.
Speaker 1: I have never seen anything like that. I would love
Speaker 1: to meet the person that put that together.
Speaker 3: Somebody will do a story on the behind the scenes
Speaker 3: of that fake field goal, and it almost feels like
Speaker 3: the money quote from that story will be We tried
Speaker 3: it in practice. It went horrendously bad. It didn't work,
Speaker 3: It got snuffed out immediately, but we figured, why the
Speaker 3: hell not, let's try it in a game.
Speaker 1: My thought after seeing it was, is that something that
Speaker 1: the holder just wanted to do as a flex right?
Speaker 1: I feel like the holder makes that call if he's
Speaker 1: going to go for it or not. It's like when
Speaker 1: the gymnast is up on the balance beam and you
Speaker 1: could go for the higher impact move and decide against it.
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if he was Sam Sam Vanderharr If
Speaker 1: you're listening, right in soliverable at gmail dot com.
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going to do something, do it right
Speaker 3: with some flair.
Speaker 1: I want to know if you had like a choice
Speaker 1: route there where you could either go between the legs
Speaker 1: or just go with the standard flip.
Speaker 3: Over the back of the head, right, it executed it perfectly.
Speaker 1: And last, but certainly not least, here are your week
Speaker 1: nine reverbs.
Speaker 4: Have a listen with a game winning field goal at
Speaker 4: the end. The Bronze Stock Trophy stays in Muncie. This
Speaker 4: year ball State beats Northern Illinois. Could they beat Notre Dame?
Speaker 4: This is Derek, I'm going to Browska Prairie.
Speaker 2: Is this Steve calling from Atlanta, Georgia?
Speaker 4: Heyay, this is Ash calling in from Atlanta. I don't understand.
Speaker 2: If Middle Tennessee is the worst team in the FPS,
Speaker 2: then in that Kennesaw State who was to them last week?
Speaker 3: But then why am I saying that Kennesaw State?
Speaker 4: Just see Liberty not today? Diego Pavia went into the
Speaker 4: skill open rules. I wish I could go back in
Speaker 4: time and tell like eight to twelve year old Nebraska
Speaker 4: fan me when they were winning three national championships in
Speaker 4: four years that eventually it would just lead me to
Speaker 4: a descent into madness and constant depression and hating myself.
Speaker 2: I have a simple message for Tony Elliott after j
Speaker 2: Day's bleep show of a performance change or be changed.
Speaker 2: I sure hope that NBC got Tyler Warren's permission to
Speaker 2: call him inspector Gadget, because I will not be calling
Speaker 2: him anything besides inspector Gadget until further notice.
Speaker 1: War damn Eagle.
Speaker 4: We got an SDC wind, Birmingham Bull or Bucks. It's
Speaker 4: Jimmy from ann Arbor.
Speaker 1: Even when we suck, We're better than Michigan Site, Little
Speaker 1: Row doing little ro things, go blue, the fighting Texas Aggies.
Speaker 2: I could run through a wall and eat all the
Speaker 2: drywall left because Kyle got.
Speaker 4: Me amped up. The coobs are eight and oh Flyinheim
Speaker 4: Utah fun.
Speaker 2: They sucked.
Speaker 4: Hey, I just got home from college game day and
Speaker 4: Memorial Stadium and wait a second, Hey, honey, get.
Speaker 2: Out the good China Indiana eight.
Speaker 4: No row row row your boat, row row row your boat.
Speaker 4: No row row your boat, row row row your boat.
Speaker 1: Jill down the stream the snowdre Dame.
Speaker 4: Just eat fifty one and fourteen sky Yuma row the boat.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: Look, it was a long day of college football. We're
Speaker 1: all a little tired. The reverbs always a wonderful sound
Speaker 1: in these years. Thank you to one and all for
Speaker 1: giving us a holler. Yes, Dan, that does it for
Speaker 1: our week nine recap episode. Hope everybody enjoyed this. It
Speaker 1: has been a long day of college football. We are
Speaker 1: going to go and do our spillover episode on Tuesday.
Speaker 1: So anything we didn't talk about anything, we need to
Speaker 1: unpack more things that we think about a little bit
Speaker 1: more and want to discuss. We will do that on Tuesday.
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Speaker 1: a reminder to the crowd out there that is watching
Speaker 1: this live, that stops by every Saturday night at midnight
Speaker 1: Eastern to watch this live, we will be in an Arbi,
Speaker 1: Michigan watching the Michigan organ game. A week from tonight.
Speaker 1: We will have something in this place. We're not exactly
Speaker 1: sure what. We're still work on that, but.
Speaker 3: There will be a Saturday night recap show of some
Speaker 3: kind next Saturday. That will be here. And if you
Speaker 3: are tailgating at the Michigan Oregon game, let us know.
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anything you want to take
Speaker 3: advantage of listeners for beyond tailgate opportunities. TI, is there
Speaker 3: anything else that you need?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: No, do you need like a Shiatsu massage sometime to
Speaker 3: work out some of your your knots?
Speaker 1: Anything outside of Michigan Stadium.
Speaker 3: No, I'm good, I'm good. Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 1: Tailing tailgateing will do just fine.
Speaker 3: We'd love to say, Hi, we're very excited to go
Speaker 3: to ann Arbor. It is the first time that we
Speaker 3: are actually attending a game in quite some time. We've
Speaker 3: gone to national championship games and made stuff before games
Speaker 3: and then left for the actual game. So excited to
Speaker 3: tailgate wander around. It should be quite good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we went to Northwestern do back in week two.
Speaker 3: But we did, we did.
Speaker 1: But we're talking real stadiums here, real stadiums that aren't portable,
Speaker 1: and you know, man have a little bit more history
Speaker 1: behind him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fake stadium taking taking some strays here from
Speaker 3: Ty hilden Brand at Northwestern on the.
Speaker 1: Lake IOK, they're not even playing there anymore.
Speaker 3: I know they're at regularly now. Yeah, holler, we're gonna
Speaker 3: be in ann Arbor. Come come say hi some way somehow.
Speaker 1: Week nine, officially in the books, looks like Colorado. Barring
Speaker 1: any kind of great comeback, we'll emerge victorious here. We
Speaker 1: could talk about that on Tuesday. For that guy out there,
Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubisin, for myself, Ty hildon Brand,
Speaker 1: thank you for downwenning, for listening, for supporting. We will
Speaker 1: talk y'all soon. S