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Speaker 2: Man, I'm forty.

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Speaker 1: I've heard so many players say, well, I want to

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Speaker 1: be happy.

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Speaker 3: You want to be happy for a day? Edith Stake,

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Speaker 3: is that whoo whoom and.

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Speaker 1: Then and tie? You know, we did our week nine preview, Dan,

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Speaker 1: we called it still into You Saturday. Yeah, I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if we're still into calling it still into you after

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Speaker 1: we saw the influx of backups and the impact that

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Speaker 1: they had in week nine, after we saw the influx

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Speaker 1: of survival games. It was not a loaded week from

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Speaker 1: the standpoint of there being monster upsets, major earth shattering

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Speaker 1: storylines for us to discuss on this episode that we're

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Speaker 1: recording at midnight Eastern on Saturday, but in some way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form, as we come to know, in college football,

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Speaker 1: there are always interesting things to talk about, and we're

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Speaker 1: going to go into those here over the next hours. So,

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Speaker 1: my friend, how are you?

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Speaker 3: I'm good? What about Sideline getting loose Saturday for the

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Speaker 3: number of backup quarterbacks Marcel Reid Drew Pine. I think

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Speaker 3: it was what Brendan rose for Utah after they Sir

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Speaker 3: Isaac Wilson was benched the number Bo Pribula Penn state

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Speaker 3: the number of backup quarterbacks, either because the starter wasn't

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Speaker 3: an injury Drew Aller. Was it a knee situation?

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Speaker 1: For it was ankle? They said knee on the broadcast,

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Speaker 1: but there's no way it would have been a knee

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Speaker 1: if he's just standing there kind of willy nilly on

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Speaker 1: the sideline. So I'm going with ankle my official diagnosis.

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Speaker 3: I think Baron Morton went down for Texas Tech. So

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Speaker 3: sideline getting loose Saturday it was, Yeah, it was a

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Speaker 3: survival Saturday. There's a lot to talk about here. I'm

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Speaker 3: doing great. I hope you're doing great. You're on little

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Speaker 3: to no sleep. Which greatest show we've ever done? Worst

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Speaker 3: show we've ever done? You better stay tuned to find out.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. Yeah, talk to us in about an

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Speaker 1: I don't know how much movement we're going to see

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Speaker 1: as a result of the action in week nine, but

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Speaker 1: suffice to say there was a fair amount of survival

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Speaker 1: going on in and around the world of College Trip

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Speaker 1: over the next hour. So we're going to go through

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Speaker 1: what we deem kind of the Big twelve, the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve things that transpired over the course of the weekend,

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Speaker 1: which of course started a little bit earlier, as it

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Speaker 1: that we need to get into here, Dan.

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Speaker 3: I some Liberty won and comm Accord was super accurate.

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Speaker 3: I don't need to go through it super closely.

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Speaker 1: Yes, No, may want to hold off on that asside. Okay, Fy,

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Speaker 1: what was the big story for you after having watched

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Speaker 3: Is it week twelve already, Oh my god, Top twelve

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Speaker 3: But top teams, top fifteen, twenty teams, slow start for

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Speaker 1: they said it best win your clunkers, Dan, win your clunkers.

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Speaker 1: So Ohio State did win over Nebraska. The game was

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Speaker 3: I thought the game planned really nicely terms of corraling

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I saw the meme going around on social media,

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 1: Right? It was one of those weekends for sure in

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Speaker 1: survival is the Texas game. Yes, so Texas goes to Vandy.

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Speaker 1: Everybody at this point the book is out on Vandy.

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Speaker 1: The book's out on Diego Pavia. He's like a folk hero.

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Speaker 1: Yes, they're good, they're ranked football team. Diego Pavia is

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Speaker 1: And there were moments in this game where didn't feel like,

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Speaker 3: You can go in a couple of different directions with this.

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Speaker 3: The offensive line struggled again and got pushed around. They

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Speaker 3: impressed by some quin Yours throws, but having the same

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Speaker 3: If they're in that conversation for sure, given their record

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Speaker 1: Do we go back to Wigman? Is it again one

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Speaker 1: Very pedantic. It seemed. It seemed very like I was

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Speaker 3: Course of this game. They got physical, they were hitting,

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Speaker 4: Know, but.

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Speaker 3: He seems to move the ball in the correct direction

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Speaker 3: they win this game. What thirty eight twenty three, I

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Speaker 3: for this team, and so I think there's a lot

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Speaker 3: of inward searching that needs to be done with Wisconsin

436
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Speaker 3: because it's just not happening against these quality teams.

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Speaker 1: Well, the irony is that he did have guys open

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Speaker 1: in this game, and well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, drops in it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he had guys open. He was horrible.

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Speaker 3: He's yeah, he's.

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Speaker 1: Try not to use language like that, but throws well,

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Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. There were moments

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Speaker 1: in this game where he I jotted down in our

445
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Speaker 1: note sheet that he like forgot to do the firmware update. Right,

446
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Speaker 1: he was like glitching really bad. One hop Charlie's airmailing it.

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Speaker 3: Like air mailing like six yard outs. Yeah, it was

448
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Speaker 3: really bad.

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Speaker 1: The interception, the pick six that he threw that kind

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Speaker 1: of swung momentum in favor of Penn State. Yeah, I

451
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Speaker 1: don't know how. I mean, they're wearing white, all literally

452
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Speaker 1: all white in the middle of threw it right close.

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Speaker 1: So I just I, you know, maybe he's not the dude,

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Speaker 1: right clearly, I think he's kind of made that case

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Speaker 1: and he's not the dude, but given circumstances, he has

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Speaker 1: to be. I think you're right, there needs to be

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Speaker 1: some sort of soul searching going on. You're Luke Fickle

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Speaker 1: and that offensive staff, like, it may not be the

459
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Speaker 1: year this year, but at some point we got to

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Speaker 1: figure out what we're doing here because.

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Speaker 3: Or did desbon Ridder make this guy's entire career? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I hope not, because I still am a believer in

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Speaker 3: Luke Fickle, because I think this defense is improving and

464
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Speaker 3: should turn into one of the Big ten's better defenses.

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Speaker 3: But and look, this is a backup quarterback. It was

466
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Speaker 3: a backup quarterback last year, was a backup quarterback this year.

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Speaker 3: It's a tough watch.

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Speaker 1: It's real, it's a really tough watch. Yeah, but all

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Speaker 1: due credit to Penn State. Penn State changed its game plan.

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Speaker 1: They did it out of necessity. It'll be interesting to

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Speaker 1: see what they look like next week, because it wasn't

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Speaker 1: just alar denied. Dennis Sutton was out for a good

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Speaker 1: chunk of the second half. They also had a lineman

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Speaker 1: get hurt. So at this point in the season, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be Week ten. Everybody's a bit nicked up.

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Speaker 3: I like by the way that you're like, maybe pol

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Speaker 3: Pabula is the guy who's next for Penn State. Congratulations,

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Speaker 3: Bo Pabula, you might be the guy maybe if Drew

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Speaker 3: Aller's injured, especially Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like those odds. Yeah, frankly of Bo

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Speaker 1: Pribula going against that defense. And I still think Drew

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Speaker 1: Aller's the guy. But the ease with which he helped

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Speaker 1: move the ball down the field with this offense. I'm

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Speaker 1: only a simple man. I hear it asked that question.

485
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Speaker 1: If this is a team that you care.

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Speaker 3: About, here, who's a I was gonna say, not the

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Speaker 3: guy for Penn State. Anybody in that receiver room, not

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Speaker 3: pass catcher Tyler Warren is the guy for sure. He

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Speaker 3: is the offensive weapon, or at least was after the

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Speaker 3: USC game. And I still think has the highest ceiling

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Speaker 3: of anybody who can catch the ball or do whatever

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Speaker 3: with the ball on this team. There's no receivers. I

493
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Speaker 3: tweeted out, where are all these five ten dudes? Where's

494
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Speaker 3: kJ Hamler, Where's Johan Dotson? We're all these dudes. I

495
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Speaker 3: know Taylor Stubblefield's is not the receivers coach anymore. Can't

496
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Speaker 3: find a guy in Virginia. You can't find a guy

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Speaker 3: in Metro Detroit. What's going on, Penn State? I was

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Speaker 3: so entertained for so long. Entertain me some more, please, I.

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Speaker 1: Look, I'm with you. And I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: was the threat of the run that opened things up

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Speaker 1: down the field, but we saw Harrison Wallace get more involved,

502
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Speaker 1: Liam Clifford get a little bit more involved. But yeah, right,

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Speaker 1: I mean Julian Fleming has basically been anonymous this season.

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Speaker 1: He's had a couple good catches, had a really bad

505
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Speaker 1: drop this game, but all things considered, that remains the question,

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Speaker 1: just as it was at the start of your Penn

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Speaker 1: State wins by the way twenty eight to thirteen.

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Speaker 3: And we're sitting here picking up our Penn State. They

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Speaker 3: were down for a chunk of this game and slowly

510
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Speaker 3: paced their way to a comfortable.

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Speaker 1: Win before we talk about more escapes because we do

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Speaker 1: want to talk about Kansas State and SMU. Why don't

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Speaker 1: we talk about some teams that did not have to

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Speaker 1: pull any kind of escape acts. Sure, let's talk about

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Speaker 1: your Oregon Ducks who won in resounding fashion at home

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Speaker 1: over Illinois. We can talk about BYU going on the

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Speaker 1: road as a dog man and just taking it to

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Speaker 1: UCF and what that means. We can talk about Notre

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Speaker 1: Dame wrecking Navy. We can talk about Bama blanking Maszoo

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Speaker 1: and what that meant. There were a bunch of teams

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Speaker 1: that are highly ranked this week that did sort of

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Speaker 1: assert their dominance, and we don't want to make this

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Speaker 1: all just a dunk contest here. Why don't we talk

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Speaker 1: about some of those? So start with Oregon, because, yeah,

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Speaker 1: we previewed the Oregon game. It was a rank matchup.

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Speaker 1: I don't think either one of us was too sold

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Speaker 1: on Illinois coming into this game. We had some expectations

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Speaker 1: that maybe they'd find a way to muddy it up,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't think the offense was there to go

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Speaker 1: toe to toe with Oregon. What version of Oregon, what

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Speaker 1: version of Illinois did we see?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think Illinois is a decent team, but

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Speaker 3: I don't think decent cuts it against number one team

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Speaker 3: in the country right now with how they're playing, especially

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Speaker 3: in that first half. Oregon came out and absolutely shelled

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Speaker 3: them both on the ground and in the air. They

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Speaker 3: weren't ripping off huge plays on the ground, but it's

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Speaker 3: third and three, they're picking up six, right. The drives

539
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Speaker 3: are just going and going, and then Dylan Gabriel would

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Speaker 3: find Patrick Herbert or Tesz Johnson or Jordan James out

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Speaker 3: of the backfield. Kenyan Sadik like the ball was just

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Speaker 3: being spread around really nicely, and Oregon just kept driving

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Speaker 3: down the field in scoring and then putting a ton

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Speaker 3: of pressure on Luke Altmeyer and getting punts eventual turnovers.

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Speaker 3: Like it was just it was a lopsided game. The

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Speaker 3: second half felt a little bit I don't know, it

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Speaker 3: was thirty five to three. I think the second half

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Speaker 3: felt a little bit pointless, like Oregon was in a

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Speaker 3: weird gray area between should we be playing backups, let's

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Speaker 3: get another touchdown, or Dylan Gabriels going through the receiving

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Speaker 3: options a little bit slowly as progressions and throws a

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Speaker 3: pick that was not great with the corner peeling off,

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Speaker 3: and so Oregon was just sort of sluggish in the

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Speaker 3: second half. But I mean the entirety of the second

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Speaker 3: half was garbage time when you're up thirty five to

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Speaker 3: three at half time. Oregon did a really nice job

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Speaker 3: got you know, the defensive line still without Jordan Birch,

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Speaker 3: did a great job. They have Michigan this coming week.

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Speaker 3: Who nice little bounce back week for Michigan by the way,

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Speaker 3: Yeah against Michigan State, we'll get there. But no, that

561
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Speaker 3: was the case with Oregon. I mean, if we're going

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Speaker 3: to do a sidebar here, I was telling you, like, man,

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Speaker 3: what a boring situation Oregon has for me to have

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Speaker 3: to watch all like Oregon, Maryland, Oregon, Michigan State, Oregon, Illinois.

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Speaker 3: Can we just have Oregon, Washington State? Can we just

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Speaker 3: have Oregon, cal we have Oregon, Standford, Oregon, Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: Answer is no, Dan, I know, the answer is no.

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Speaker 3: But like over it, Audtin, like the student section emptied

569
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Speaker 3: out before, like the shout between the third and fourth quarter,

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Speaker 3: like this is just not a resonating I know, poor

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Speaker 3: number one team in the country, Tye, I know, but

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Speaker 3: it just feels off to me, Well, we're gonna be

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Speaker 3: in ann.

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Speaker 1: Arbor next yees for that Michigan game, And so for

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Speaker 1: those who are watching this live, it will definitely be

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Speaker 1: a more abridged version of our Week ten recap episode.

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Speaker 1: We will do our best to put something out for

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Speaker 1: everybody who I know is very active in the chat

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Speaker 1: and care about the midnight stream, So we'll do something.

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Speaker 1: We're still figuring out exactly what that is. It may

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Speaker 1: not be as all encompassing as a show like this,

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Speaker 1: but Oregon at Michigan really is kind of a big one.

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Speaker 1: I guess left on the schedule the rest of the way.

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Speaker 1: After that, it's Maryland. They play that one in Eugene's

585
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Speaker 1: a long trip for Maryland. They should win that one.

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Speaker 3: Wisconsin is interesting, but we just talked about We've just

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Speaker 3: talked about Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've got what it takes to go

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Speaker 1: toe to toe. They close out against Washington, which, okay,

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Speaker 1: kind of a rivalry in the Pacific Northwest, but still

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Speaker 1: given the state of Washington. Right now, I feel like

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Speaker 1: I like Oregon a whole lot more. I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: my projection sheet now. They're a healthy favorite in that game.

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Speaker 1: Two three score favorite in that game. So, for all

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Speaker 1: intentsive purposes, Oregon, barring any kind of catastrophe, should be

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Speaker 1: able to pencil its way into that Big Ten championship game.

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Speaker 3: It's what Minnesota? Is that what you're saying that Minnesota.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota's dropping half a hundo tie, it's a new era.

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Speaker 1: Minnesota looked really good this week.

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Speaker 3: I think Minnesota against Maryland it's Maryland. Whatever Maryland beat USC.

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Speaker 3: Minnesota may have outscored themselves in their final three games

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Speaker 3: from last year. Tonight, they looked really good. They looked

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Speaker 3: really good in Maryland. Nice even performance continue in.

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Speaker 1: That Maryland game. Yeah, Maryland a week after knocking off USC.

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Speaker 1: We thought there might be some letdown potential.

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Speaker 4: There was.

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame wrecked Navy.

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Speaker 4: Dan.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we saw this coming. Did you tell me that

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Speaker 1: Clatt picked Navy out right?

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Speaker 3: I think so. And let's be clear, with regularity, I

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Speaker 3: picked games confidently incorrect.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we did it ten times this past week.

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Speaker 3: But this Navy Notre Dame game, I didn't. It didn't

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Speaker 3: keep me up at night. I'm just Navy didn't have

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Speaker 3: the defense and they hadn't played a team like Notre Dame,

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Speaker 3: and the just Notre Dame defensive players just hit Navy

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Speaker 3: harder than they were used to being hit these first

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Speaker 3: few games.

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Speaker 1: Here's a different Here's what I would tell people. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we look at forty fifty I games a week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: even if it's not the kind of thing that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about on the preview, we're looking at the numbers,

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Speaker 1: we're looking at the teams. We're looking just for points

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Speaker 1: of interest, right, so we know all of these as

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Speaker 1: they're coming up. We pay attention to this stuff. The

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Speaker 1: Notre Dame Navy game Dan truly, as we look at

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Speaker 1: our spreadsheets, that was one that jumped out to me

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Speaker 1: as this is a huge mismatch.

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Speaker 3: You just look at the size of the defensive players

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Speaker 3: that they played this year.

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Speaker 1: With your huge mismatch on paper. They don't play the

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Speaker 1: games on paper. But no, all the data that we

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Speaker 1: had at our disposal, it looked like a huge, huge mismatch.

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Speaker 1: This is the four straight game that Notre Dame scored

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Speaker 1: at least thirty points. Their offense continues, I think to

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Speaker 1: get better. What was uncharacteristic in this game for Navy,

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Speaker 1: and that could be because they were going up against

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Speaker 1: maybe the better defense. Are the best defense they've seen

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Speaker 1: all season. Notre Dame for six turnovers, five of which

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Speaker 1: were fumbles. Navy hadn't lost a fumble at all the

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Speaker 1: season coming into this game, right, so to lose five

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Speaker 1: one game, it's you know, a Navy's coach talked about

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Speaker 1: this in the post game a little bit, saying, well, baby,

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Speaker 1: playing this one in MetLife Stadium in East Ruththerford in

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Speaker 1: the middle of this undefeated season was a little too

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Speaker 1: much for us. We played a little bit outside ourselves here,

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Speaker 1: but by and large it was still Notre Dame was

649
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Speaker 1: better in every facet. Six turnovers, We'll do that to you.

650
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: Notre Dame scored twenty seven points off those turnovers. So

651
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: not a whole lot for me to take away other

652
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,520
Speaker 1: than to just reiterate the trend line for Notre Dame

653
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: is definitely pointed up and to the right, at least

654
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 1: from an offensive standpoint.

655
00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 3: It just seemed every play for Notre Dame was positive

656
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 3: in some way. That Riley Leonard was ripping off like

657
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,120
Speaker 3: eight yards of carry, Jeremiah Love was ripping off eight

658
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 3: yards of carry. By the way. On the other side,

659
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 3: I think it was relatively early on Blake Horvath, who

660
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: I think was limited handwise, he had a bum thumb

661
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: coming into this game. Sensational touchdown run oh field fifty

662
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 3: sixty yards out, weaving in and out of Notre Dame.

663
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,440
Speaker 3: He just needed to do it fifteen more times for

664
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 3: Navy to have a chance in this one. So yeah,

665
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 3: as we started, Right before we started, I said Notre

666
00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 3: Dame one of the best wins of the season, one

667
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 3: of the worst losses of the season, And that, I

668
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: guess is the Ty hilden Brandt experience.

669
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: Sometimes the best of times the worst of times.

670
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

671
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: If I were a BYU fan right now, yes, I

672
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: would not be sending us comments akin to do you

673
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: believe in BYU yet?

674
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 3: Right?

675
00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 1: You're gonna pick BYU next week? What do you have

676
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: to say for not picking them this week?

677
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 3: Who do they have next week?

678
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,760
Speaker 1: Et cetera, et cetera. Hold on Baltimore Ravens Okay, finish, Okay.

679
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: There are teams like this every year where you and

680
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: I are unconvinced. TCU most recently went to a national championship.

681
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,280
Speaker 1: We weren't convinced of TCU all year. Sometimes the occult

682
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: forces of the bowler hood are ever in your favor,

683
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: and so if I'm a BYU fan right now, I'm

684
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: not asking for any of those things. I am saying,

685
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: Tie and Dan, please keep doubting us, right, Please keep

686
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: doubt genuinely saying, please keep doubting us, because every time

687
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: we express any sort of concern about a matchup, as

688
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: we did in this one. Okay, they're traveling to to

689
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: UCF UCF. Seems like maybe they're trending a little bit better,

690
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,080
Speaker 1: even though they can.

691
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 3: Use explosion plays against Iowa State.

692
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, great against Iowa State, even though they lost

693
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: that game. Please keep doubting us, because whatever we're doing,

694
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 1: I used to do this to my own team. Frankly,

695
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 1: the reverse jinks, it's working, It's really working. BYU was

696
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 1: frigging dominant. Dan, they were dominant. They were really good.

697
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,880
Speaker 3: They were really really good Jack Rhet's laughs, really good spreads,

698
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: the ball around runs really well. Had a great touchdown

699
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 3: run saw that. I appreciate me personally. I've known you

700
00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,600
Speaker 3: for some time now that you have both doubted BYU

701
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,719
Speaker 3: and are taking credit for BYU all in the same book.

702
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: That is some classical.

703
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,760
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not playing I'm not taking credit for anything,

704
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, no, you're saying the occult forces

705
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,959
Speaker 1: of you not believing in BYU is well, you don't either,

706
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: responsible you don't either.

707
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:23,759
Speaker 3: Oh I picked against them, but every time I watch

708
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 3: them like, oh, they're good, and then I pick against

709
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,879
Speaker 3: them because I think it's a tough situational play and

710
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, and I'm happy to be wrong if I

711
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 3: get to watch good football as a result of it.

712
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: So BYU goes into and off week, now, okay, yes,

713
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,400
Speaker 1: but after that they've got the Holy War on the

714
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 1: road at Utah. Utah lost by the way to Houston

715
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: seventeen to fourteen. Bad, really down bad. I don't have

716
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: much hope that Utah. I mean talk about the story

717
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: of the year kind of on the other side of things,

718
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: with Utah just bottoming out the way that they have.

719
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,360
Speaker 1: They're not winning the Big twelve. They're not gonna be

720
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 1: anywhere close to winning the Big twelve. Right, They're a

721
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:01,720
Speaker 1: four and fourteen.

722
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: But what do you do with these rivalries?

723
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: You throw the records out. I know you gotta throw

724
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: them out. But coming out of that bye week Holy

725
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: War against Utah, Yeah, home game against Kansas on the

726
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 1: road at Arizona State. Arizona State's plucky, they're fun, They're

727
00:37:23,480 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: fun close out the year against Houston. Is it time

728
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: to talk to our kids realistically?

729
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,640
Speaker 3: Now, hold on, you're talking about Utah or BYU?

730
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: No, BYU?

731
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, realistically twelve and oh BYU? What would you

732
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 3: be most concerned about if you are a BYU human

733
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 3: a Byuman?

734
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: Maybe that Arizona State game.

735
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 3: Where's that game being played?

736
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: It's at ASU.

737
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 3: Is there a kickoff time?

738
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 1: Not yet?

739
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 3: Okay, I agree with that. I think that's a pretty

740
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 3: dangerous spot.

741
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,200
Speaker 1: But on the road at Utah's a rivalry, and rivalries

742
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 1: are always weird. We know this. I don't with the

743
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:06,719
Speaker 1: way that BYU has been trending as of late, the

744
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 1: fact that they've got to buy before that Utah game.

745
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: They might not cover the spread, but who gives it? Damn,

746
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 1: you just want to win that rivalry game. I'm looking

747
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: at that Utah game. That doesn't frighten me at all

748
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: the way it did at the start of the year.

749
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: Not even close Kansas. Kansas is having a rough year.

750
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:26,319
Speaker 1: Kansas is two and six, could have beaten k State.

751
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 1: Definitely illustrated the point that rivalries can be strange, but

752
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: still games at home. I like their odds. It's that

753
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: road game against Arizona State. Man, that's the one that

754
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 1: I guess if there's going to be weirdness, that's probably

755
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: the game I point to. But it's if you're a

756
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: by human. Is that what you.

757
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:45,280
Speaker 3: Said, by human?

758
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, keep doubting us and look at the schedule, and

759
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: you gotta feel pretty good about it.

760
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:54,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have to feel good about it. And look,

761
00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 3: here's the other thing, Ty, it's just big picture. If

762
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:57,799
Speaker 3: they are as good as you say they can be

763
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 3: the rest of the year, even if they lose Arizona State,

764
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: they could still obviously win the Big Twelve, end up

765
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 3: in a Big Twelve championship game playoff wise. And again

766
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 3: I'm not talking about looking ahead of everything to say, oh,

767
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,440
Speaker 3: who could they play against? Just in terms of a

768
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: visual we could be getting December twentieth in Provo, that's

769
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: a nice little vista time in the winter. I went

770
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: to college football in the mountains up High. That's pretty good.

771
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: There are only two teams in the Big Twelve right

772
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:27,800
Speaker 1: now that are unbeaten in conference. One of them is BYU,

773
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:33,399
Speaker 1: the other is Iowa State. Kansas State had its own

774
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:40,120
Speaker 1: survival act. The twenty nine to twenty seven needed a

775
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: late field goal to upend their rival Kansas and the

776
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 1: Sunflower showdown Case State is four and one in conference

777
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: and currently a time of recording, both Cincinnati and Colorado

778
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: are playing. They're both one lost teams within the Big Twelve.

779
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 1: Colorado was winning at present.

780
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,359
Speaker 3: What's the score right now?

781
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: Cod is? I don't know what the score is.

782
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: I thought it was maybe twenty four to fourteen the

783
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 3: last I checked.

784
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 1: Okay, So it stands to reason that after this week,

785
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 1: we're going to have a clear amount of separation banding

786
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040
Speaker 1: going on within that conference, and we will know kind

787
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 1: of who the contenders are. We're have pretty good sense

788
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: for it as we turn the page go into November

789
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:25,680
Speaker 1: next week. How do you feel about k State?

790
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 4: Well?

791
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 3: I feel good because they played an a rivalry game

792
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 3: and they pulled it out despite making a ton of mistakes.

793
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 3: I thought the way they ended that game, especially on defense,

794
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,879
Speaker 3: We're like, just send dudes at Jalen Daniels that they

795
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,800
Speaker 3: can't They just can't keep up with this pass rush

796
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: and sending pressure, and they were forcing Jalen Daniels to

797
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: scramble and throw on the dead run or try to

798
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 3: pick up extra yardage, and you had a big fumble

799
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 3: at the end that Kansas State turned into a law.

800
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 3: You said it was a fifty plus yard field goal.

801
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 3: I believe fifty one. Ye, with under a couple minutes left.

802
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,800
Speaker 3: Avery Johnson wasn't perfect, but the best of Avery Johnson

803
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 3: was again quite impressive. It seemed like Kansas State was

804
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,279
Speaker 3: in position at least a couple times in the last

805
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: few minutes of this game. Or excuse me, Kansas to

806
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 3: just win it, to just stomp that, whether it's a

807
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 3: four minute offense, whether it's just picking up key first downs.

808
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: They couldn't. They couldn't get out of their own way.

809
00:41:19,320 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 3: The nice thing about Kansas State. You asked how I

810
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 3: feel about Kansas State. I really like that they won

811
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,479
Speaker 3: at Colorado. In terms of potential tiebreakers in this next

812
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: four or five weeks, I think that could be quite meaningful.

813
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know. It's it's a very interesting conference.

814
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,479
Speaker 1: We've been saying it the whole way through that it's,

815
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: by for my money, the most interesting conference. It is, Okay,

816
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 1: and maybe the SEC has a claim to that title

817
00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: given some of the new storylines that have emerged there.

818
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: But the big twelve of them where that is headed,

819
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,359
Speaker 1: It's gonna come down to the wire. It's gonna end

820
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: up coming down to like the last two or three

821
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,320
Speaker 1: weeks of the season, and that's gonna make it a

822
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: lot of fun for us to watch and talk about

823
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: here on the show. So Kansas State was one team

824
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: that did pull a survival act. Another one was SMUU.

825
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:14,719
Speaker 1: SMU needed a failed two point conversion in overtime to

826
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: remain unbeaten in the ACC and knock off Duke. Duke

827
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: put a hell of a game out there, Man twenty

828
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 1: eight to twenty seven was the final really good game

829
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: from Malik Murphy and SMU struggled. SMU had three picks

830
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: from Kevin Jennings. Definitely was not their cleanest game in

831
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 1: the world, but didn't cover eleven and a half. Did

832
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: end up winning the game here Survive in advance.

833
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I don't know how great it was.

834
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 3: Pankell the receiver for Duke who cover the I mean

835
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 3: he was the go to dude. He is the go

836
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,360
Speaker 3: to dude. Caught the overtime touchdown and they go for

837
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: two and don't get it. It wasn't a ton downfield

838
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 3: from Malik Murphy and Duke. How hard is it to

839
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 3: turn the ball over six times and win a game

840
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,879
Speaker 3: on the road against a pretty good team. I don't

841
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 3: know how many times that has ever happened. Where I

842
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 3: mean Duke. I don't think Duke had a single turnover. No,

843
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 3: this was loading the bases every inning and being shut out.

844
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 3: The runners left in scoring position for Duke because you

845
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 3: look at what happened with Duke drives after they were

846
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 3: able to turn the ball over. It was like, oh,

847
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: Duke picked off Kevin Jennings and punted it. Duke picked

848
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 3: off Kenning Jennings and missed a field goal. Duke recovered

849
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 3: a fumble and turned it over on downs. And it's

850
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,359
Speaker 3: a very difficult thing that SMU was able to do

851
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 3: in winning this game. But the defense came up big.

852
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 3: The team was led by its defense and Win Your

853
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 3: Clunkers and SMU won an all time clunker against Duke tonight.

854
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 3: Crazy impressive for SMU to stay alive in this acc race.

855
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, go on out to merch dot soliverble dot com

856
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,600
Speaker 1: and pick up a win your Clunker shirt It Colick,

857
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: you tie yet to listen. I'm a pros pro a

858
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: pro move. Here's the other thing. I'm going to reiterate

859
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: this point. Much of the discussion next week is going

860
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 1: to be about Ohio State Penn State. It's the biggest

861
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,440
Speaker 1: game of the weekend. Okay, there will definitely be, at

862
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: least on this show a fair amount of discussion about

863
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Oregon Michigan because we're going to be there. The game

864
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 1: that is not going to get enough attention is pit

865
00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,960
Speaker 1: against SMU. The game's at SMU. Yeah, that game has real, true,

866
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:28,400
Speaker 1: monstrous significance in the acc rais mm hmm. I'm curious

867
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 1: to see what the point spread looks like. I have

868
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 1: not even thought about who's going to be favored in

869
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 1: that game, but that to me looks like a hell

870
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 1: of a game that is going to have a ton

871
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 1: riding on it with respect to who stands to maybe

872
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,680
Speaker 1: pick up the torch if somebody like Miami drops it

873
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: with one of their road games down the stretch. I

874
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 1: don't think it'll be Clemson that stumbles. I think if

875
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: anyone stumbles, it'll be Miami. Miami probably would have something

876
00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: to say about that after destroying their rival Florida State

877
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: earlier today. Is well, but just saying there's a lot

878
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: riding Oh yeah game and people need to pay attention

879
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: to it, start thinking about it. Will definitely put it

880
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: as one of our pick them selections on run the board.

881
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: That that, to me, for my money, might be like

882
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: the the second biggest game next weekend.

883
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: By the way, you just keep saying the word pick

884
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:22,839
Speaker 3: it's a real tough time to be a little too

885
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 3: pick prone for Kevin Jennings against Pitt coming up, who

886
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:32,319
Speaker 3: three pick sixes in the first half Thursday night, all

887
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 3: by linebackers, all by linebackers.

888
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: It was five picks total. Yes, for Kyle McCord.

889
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: Pit's a good team. You gift Pit three touchdowns on defense,

890
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 3: They're a pretty difficult team to knock off. I mean,

891
00:45:51,560 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 3: I mean.

892
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:57,839
Speaker 1: If you look at the box score beyond those five interceptions.

893
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 3: No, I watched the game.

894
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you look at the if you didn't watch

895
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: the game, it if you just look at the box score,

896
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 1: the stats do not sing anything Pit right. It was

897
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:13,279
Speaker 1: truly a function of they scored twenty one points via turnovers.

898
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: They got two more turnovers. Field position was very much

899
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:17,400
Speaker 1: in their favor.

900
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: No, they game g need this TI, I.

901
00:46:19,640 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: Mean it was it was like a total hack. Yeah,

902
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,359
Speaker 1: and the game came off the swivel pretty quickly for Syracuse.

903
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 1: Syracuse is not that bad of a team.

904
00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 3: Obviously, they had a worst the worst night of the year.

905
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 1: This was like their absolute clunker that we saw on

906
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: display and pitch just sort of all they needed to

907
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,920
Speaker 1: do was not screw it up, and they didn't.

908
00:46:43,320 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 3: Well. And it's also it's especially bad because there weren't

909
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it was this and was Liberty Thursday or Friday?

910
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 3: Liberty kind of saw Liberty was Thursday. Yeah, there are

911
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 3: a few games Thursday, Friday. Everybody's way right. This is

912
00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 3: peeing your pants during the homecoming King dance, the home whatever,

913
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: the prom court. I was not a homecoming King tie

914
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 3: like you no excuse me?

915
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, doing a podcast, believe me. I wasn't homecoming King.

916
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: No, it's everybody watching. It's everybody watching it in slow motion,

917
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 3: and it's you know, it's their worst night. They'll bounce back,

918
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 3: They'll be okay.

919
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,359
Speaker 1: So we'll see what Pitt looks like next week. They're

920
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,960
Speaker 1: not going to get They probably won't get five interceptions

921
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 1: off of Kevin Jennings.

922
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:32,319
Speaker 3: He did throw three, but he through three tonight six

923
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:33,879
Speaker 3: total turnovers.

924
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,439
Speaker 1: So perhaps they'll learn something that is meaningful. I think

925
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 1: for our purposes here, you mentioned the Kennesaw thing. I'll

926
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,279
Speaker 1: bring that up please, because that was sort of the

927
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,960
Speaker 1: biggest upset of the year so far, if you can

928
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: believe it. Kennesaw State, a newcomer to the FBS Rakes

929
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:55,160
Speaker 1: squares off against Liberty, who was undefeated, who had some

930
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,800
Speaker 1: playoff aspirations. I don't know how real those were given

931
00:47:59,080 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 1: strength of schedule, but Liberty was in the conversation.

932
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 3: You can't lose to arguably one of the seven worst

933
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 3: teams in FBS football.

934
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Liberty came into this game about a four touchdown favorite.

935
00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,960
Speaker 1: I think it was twenty seven at close. They end

936
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 1: up losing this game to Kanasaw State. Is Kanasaw State's

937
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: first win at the FBS level. It's almost unprecedented that

938
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 1: this would happen in the manner that it did.

939
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 3: Was that candisaw.

940
00:48:27,719 --> 00:48:30,319
Speaker 1: But still you wouldn't expect Liberty is going to drop

941
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: a game like this.

942
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 3: No, it was real ugly too on Liberty's behalf.

943
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, very very ugly game on their part, almost as

944
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: if they didn't take it seriously.

945
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:38,760
Speaker 3: So that's as if.

946
00:48:38,840 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: That's that's another one that will have some playoff implications,

947
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: at least in the G five level. Yes, and G

948
00:48:43,719 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: five thoughts too.

949
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: It's not even implications, it's a conclusion. Liberty is not

950
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 3: going to the playoff.

951
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: Liberty is not going to the playoff.

952
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:49,319
Speaker 2: No.

953
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 1: The one team we have not talked about is Alabama. Yes, correct,

954
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: we have not. And this game against missoo so, Brady

955
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: Cook gave it a go. Brady Cook hurt his ankle

956
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:06,439
Speaker 1: pretty badly a week ago, one of those deals again

957
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: where he went to the hospital during the game, got

958
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: the MRI, came back, got some stray looks from people

959
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: who are out in the parking lot, like let's see

960
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,960
Speaker 1: what's going on here, ends up going back in the game.

961
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: They get a hard fought win against Auburn. Fast forward

962
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: to this week. He tries to give it a go

963
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 1: first off, even before he got hurt again. It wasn't

964
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: really working, but he's out there. He ends up hurting

965
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: his hand. Drew Pine comes in at that point. It

966
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:37,799
Speaker 1: feels like game over. Drew Pine was not good. Drew

967
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 1: Pine has never been good. This is me talking as

968
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:44,480
Speaker 1: a score Notre Dame fan. Right, ended up throwing for

969
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:47,319
Speaker 1: like sixty some odd yards had three picks in this game.

970
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: He was not going to elevate Missoo to the point

971
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: where they could beat Alabama. I guess my question to

972
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,880
Speaker 1: you is did we learn anything from Alabama in this

973
00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: game or was this just total system failure on behalf

974
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: of Missoo because of their own circle of stances with

975
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: their offense.

976
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 3: Well, I mean with regard to where the headspace was

977
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:10,319
Speaker 3: last week of Alabama fans after losing to Tennessee, we

978
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 3: learned that it was a nice weekend for Alabama fans.

979
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,640
Speaker 3: It was a nice day for Alabama, especially on defense,

980
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:21,480
Speaker 3: to beat up on a wounded team. And so no,

981
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 3: I don't know if we learn anything necessarily new, especially

982
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:25,640
Speaker 3: with how Miszoo struggled against A and M on the

983
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 3: road a couple of weeks ago, a few weeks ago.

984
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,799
Speaker 3: But I only watched a little bit of this game.

985
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 3: And here's my editor's note, Drew Pine, whatever you want

986
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 3: to say about him.

987
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:35,720
Speaker 1: Be Clemson.

988
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 3: I was good enough to be Clemson. That's my editors.

989
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 3: My editor's hat right now is we should also mention

990
00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:48,640
Speaker 3: in audio italics good enough to be Clemson. But yeah,

991
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,319
Speaker 3: it was just it was not going to happen. With

992
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 3: Miszoo's struggles this year, Missoo's inconsistencies generating bigger plays on offense,

993
00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 3: you need to be able to do that against an

994
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 3: Alabama defense that is tough to me. And how you

995
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:08,319
Speaker 3: get Alabama is by getting after the Alabama offense, making

996
00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:11,520
Speaker 3: Jalen Milroe see things that aren't there, turning them one dimensional,

997
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 3: and Jalen Molroe doing everything with his legs and his arm,

998
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,640
Speaker 3: targeting Ryan Williams as many times as humanly possible instead

999
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 3: of spreading it around and giving the defense different looks.

1000
00:51:21,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 3: And Misszoo's not built for that this year. They're just not,

1001
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 3: especially not when they're giving the ball back, I mean

1002
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 3: through three picks Drew Pine, I guess Alabama. Yeah, it's

1003
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 3: just got uglier and uglier and ugli A good win

1004
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: for Alabama. Misszoo twenty twenty four is not Missoo twenty

1005
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 3: twenty three.

1006
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: No, I mean, and it's It's been one of the

1007
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 1: I think disappointing storylines this year missu because of the

1008
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,840
Speaker 1: expectations they had a lot back. It just doesn't seem

1009
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,000
Speaker 1: like the offense has given him the same pop as

1010
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: it did a year ago. Maybe losing Cody Schrader had

1011
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 1: more of an impact than people had thought coming in.

1012
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what the actual cause for it is.

1013
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: We can unpack that at some point in the future.

1014
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:04,000
Speaker 1: The SEC race, though, now by virtue of what we

1015
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,040
Speaker 1: saw happen in week nine, look something like this. We've

1016
00:52:08,080 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: got one team undefeated in conference. That's your Texas A

1017
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 1: and A. Maggie's Dan.

1018
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, my team, yep.

1019
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:21,839
Speaker 1: Five And oh we've got four teams with one loss, Georgia, Texas,

1020
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 1: Tennessee and LSU.

1021
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,959
Speaker 3: And let's see Georgia plays Tennessee for sure, Yes, yep,

1022
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 3: Texas will play A and M. Who else is A

1023
00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 3: and M has South Carolina. I believe on the road

1024
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 3: this comle week that is a letdown. It's not a

1025
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 3: look ahead, but is a letdown spot of letdown spot

1026
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 3: like it is of epic proportion. I agree.

1027
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 1: We will talk about that one for sure, and of course,

1028
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: but with the fact that some of these teams do

1029
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:57,879
Speaker 1: play each other m hm, LSU stands to.

1030
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 3: They've only lost once, only as one loss, but.

1031
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:03,879
Speaker 1: LSU stands play a team like in Alabama, which could

1032
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: be an interesting game right coming up here. So there's

1033
00:53:07,719 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 1: I think a fair amount of upward mobility for some

1034
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,919
Speaker 1: of these teams that are kind of in that next

1035
00:53:13,960 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: tier down that should go without saying in the SEC

1036
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: where everybody always beats everybody. But right now, if you're

1037
00:53:20,239 --> 00:53:21,600
Speaker 1: an A and M fan, you gotta fel pretty good

1038
00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: about where you stand. It's probably beyond your wildest dreams

1039
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: at this point that you'd be atop the conference, especially

1040
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 1: the expanding conference now with Texas in it. Right it's

1041
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: just it's sort of like an incredible fairy tale with

1042
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: Mike Elko taking over, with there being some turnover, and

1043
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,279
Speaker 1: yet the way things will fall and you're five to

1044
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: zero conference, seven to one overall.

1045
00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,680
Speaker 3: By the way, just because you're mentioning the teams with

1046
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 3: the fewest losses in the SEC, does not mean that

1047
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,960
Speaker 3: Vandy does not have two top ten opponents to finish

1048
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 3: out the year and might have a little something to

1049
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,840
Speaker 3: do with how the final standings shake out in Tennessee

1050
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 3: and LSU. Who can't wait a few.

1051
00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,319
Speaker 1: Other things here, Dan, We have been going through our

1052
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: top twelve lists, items that we have jotted down that

1053
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,959
Speaker 1: place jumped out to us this week. The Boise State

1054
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 1: story continues to be very very interesting. Yes, that game

1055
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: on Friday night against UNLV was Barnburner.

1056
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:25,680
Speaker 3: It was. I only watched some of it so far.

1057
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 3: I will do more of it on the Tuesday show.

1058
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 3: Continue really really good game, high level game. Enjoyed it thoroughly.

1059
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,239
Speaker 3: Ashton gent with the go ahead touchdown late in that

1060
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:38,120
Speaker 3: one to ultimately give Boise the win.

1061
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: But two teams that I think probably end up meeting

1062
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,479
Speaker 1: again for the Mount West title, and I'll look forward

1063
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: to that matchup. I think Boise is in control now

1064
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:53,440
Speaker 1: of that G five playoff spot, especially with Navy taking

1065
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: a loss, with Liberty taking a loss. Tulane maybe trying

1066
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: to find its way back into this thing, but they've

1067
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: got two losses.

1068
00:55:01,239 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 3: And two losses good law. I mean, it's what Oklahoma

1069
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: and Kansas State.

1070
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: They would need to absolutely need to win their conference,

1071
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: and they would need to do so going away. But

1072
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 1: for where I'm seeing it, I think it's Boise. I

1073
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: also think Armies got an Interestmy's still there. Army's got

1074
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:21,160
Speaker 1: an interesting case here. There's a pretty good chance that

1075
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,439
Speaker 1: it's going to be Army with one loss after Notre

1076
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 1: Dame versus Navy versus Navy with one loss for that

1077
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: American title. It could happen. I do think the Navy

1078
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: road is harder. They do have to play two lane

1079
00:55:35,120 --> 00:55:38,239
Speaker 1: down the stretch here, But it stands to reason that

1080
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,680
Speaker 1: Army also is going to be part of that conversation.

1081
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:43,400
Speaker 1: I just I stand by what I've said. I can't

1082
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,240
Speaker 1: envision Boise being left out because of Ashton Gent, provided

1083
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 1: they don't lose. I can't imagine the committee would want

1084
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: to leave a superstar like that out of the playoff, who.

1085
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 3: By the way, was not a huge factor in terms

1086
00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 3: of production, obviously a huge factor in terms of attention

1087
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 3: and gravity and UNL his entire game plan was focused

1088
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: on stopping Ashton Gent. He never really got loose consistently,

1089
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 3: to the credit of Barry otom in this UNLV defense.

1090
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 3: But they were unable to get a Ton going consistently

1091
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 3: on their own offense, and so Maddox Madson made plays

1092
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 3: and really really impressive when on the road. I was

1093
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 3: just distracted because Freddy Freeman was dripping the heart out

1094
00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 3: of Yankee fans everywhere. How they are distracted to two

1095
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:30,799
Speaker 3: up to nil tie buna.

1096
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: Let's read some tweets, all right, Let's read some tweets

1097
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: play with me. Who the hell am I? We put

1098
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 1: a weekly call out across all of our socials asking hey,

1099
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: who are you a fan of? And how are you

1100
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,920
Speaker 1: feeling right now? Had a bunch of those come in.

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00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 1: I'll actually start because I'm going to role play a

1102
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,279
Speaker 1: little bit and say, if I were a Virginia Tech fan,

1103
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: I'd be really happy with the way my defense played today. Yes,

1104
00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: it was sort of a how shall I put it,

1105
00:57:04,040 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: inconsistent offensive effort from the hookies today, but it was

1106
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:12,360
Speaker 1: a really good showing against Georgia Tech, holding them to

1107
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: six points. Granted, not the same Georgia Tech without Haines King,

1108
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 1: but this is a win that I think Virginia Tech

1109
00:57:18,760 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: fans need. So if I'm a Virginia Tech fan, I

1110
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:22,760
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about the state of the defense.

1111
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if I'm an Indiana fan, keep it going.

1112
00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:32,000
Speaker 3: Because Tavin Jackson wasn't always all that great. I would

1113
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: say a lot of a lot of real short stuff,

1114
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 3: a lot of picklebally justice Ellison was he ran hard

1115
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:41,000
Speaker 3: that he didn't open up a ton, but the defense

1116
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 3: got after it against Washington. I'm thrilled if if I'm

1117
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 3: an Indiana fan and I'm looking around the sports see

1118
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 3: how other backup quarterbacks fared on Saturday. I'm thrilled to

1119
00:57:50,920 --> 00:57:53,160
Speaker 3: get out of that with added attention. What game day

1120
00:57:53,240 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 3: was in town? Nope, I know Lee Carso was there.

1121
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 3: It was a great, great performance from from Indiana, all

1122
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 3: things considered, without Curtis rock I'm thrilled.

1123
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,520
Speaker 1: If we're going to keep plugging away here and we're

1124
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: going to read some of these I yess on the

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00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,880
Speaker 1: topic of Indiana real quick, please, How does Indiana stack

1126
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: up against Ohio State realistically.

1127
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 3: After today or before today.

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Speaker 1: If we assume that Curtis Roark is going to be back.

1129
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 3: No, I know I'm saying, but like now that we

1130
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 3: have more information after today, the vulnerability of Ohio State

1131
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:31,840
Speaker 3: up front on offense, the games at Ohio State, games

1132
00:58:31,880 --> 00:58:35,479
Speaker 3: at Ohio State. Okay, Ohio State will not be as

1133
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:39,720
Speaker 3: frustrating every week as they were this week, but they

1134
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 3: might be as beat up on that offensive line for

1135
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 3: a while. So how do they stack up? I think

1136
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 3: Curtis Rourke and Indiana beat today's specific version of Ohio State.

1137
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I do that's today, just wondering, just wondering.

1138
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 3: This was Ohio State's worst day of the season. Now

1139
00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:03,280
Speaker 3: an average day for Indiana against an average day for

1140
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:06,240
Speaker 3: Ohio State. I think Ohio State's better. I think they

1141
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 3: win that game by ten to thirteen points.

1142
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 1: If I'm a Louisville fan, I'm proud of how the

1143
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 1: team came back and knocked off Boston College. Yeah, twenty

1144
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 1: one unanswered in the final eighteen minutes. It's pretty cool.

1145
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: Take that. If I'm a Florida State fan, I'm just

1146
00:59:23,160 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: like beside myself. They're one and seven at this point

1147
00:59:26,120 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: after getting thrown.

1148
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 3: How many points stand they finished the game with against

1149
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 3: Miami seven? Yeah, just not they scored that early, right.

1150
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,760
Speaker 1: Not a good show. It was a really bad game.

1151
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 1: If I'm a Rutgers fan, I wonder what's happened to

1152
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: my defense? Yeah, because the defense has really bottomed out

1153
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:44,680
Speaker 1: these last couple weeks. So I'm a Minnesota fan, which

1154
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,680
Speaker 1: I am. It is still bros before nos, my friend.

1155
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 1: Three twenty four touchdowns from Minnesota superstar Max Brosmer, And

1156
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: this was kind of the performance you were waiting for. Yeah,

1157
00:59:57,640 --> 00:59:59,640
Speaker 1: it wasn't just Brosmur. It was Darius Taylor, it was

1158
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:02,560
Speaker 1: Daniel Jackson, those three, the Big three as we call

1159
01:00:02,600 --> 01:00:06,560
Speaker 1: it here at Minnesota head Shutters. They were behind the

1160
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: forty eight point output from that Minnesota offense, so I

1161
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: would feel pretty good about that, definitely. Any thoughts from

1162
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:16,120
Speaker 1: Arthur ballerhood Dan.

1163
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:22,120
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Virginia fan infuriated. Yeah, I agree with that.

1164
01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 3: That was North Carolina getting right against Virginia today. Yeah,

1165
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,200
Speaker 3: Iowa fan feeling like, are we getting better? Or is

1166
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,760
Speaker 3: Northwestern just that bad? Two things can be true. Yes,

1167
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 3: and you did it with Benching Kde McNamara for Brendan Sullivan. Yep,

1168
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 3: I believe Northwestern transfer.

1169
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: Yep.

1170
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 3: That's a pretty good I mean, winning is good, Winning

1171
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:45,600
Speaker 3: is always good. Iowa State fan, and I'm thankful it's

1172
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 3: a bye week. I think that's a great point of view.

1173
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 3: I'm a Baylor fan. I'm feeling like Dave finally binged

1174
01:00:52,200 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 3: episodes of Fixer Upper. Baylor, by the way, are they

1175
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:00,360
Speaker 3: back from the dead. I think Baylor and TCU got

1176
01:01:00,360 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 3: a little bit spicier today. TCU pulled out a weird one.

1177
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 3: Baylor has an offense. If Baylor finishes that Colorado game,

1178
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 3: We're talking about Baylor twenty seven minutes ago, just in

1179
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 3: terms of what their record is and the way that

1180
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 3: they were able to kind of pacet Oklahoma State today.

1181
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 3: I mean, at least the Baylor offense going at the

1182
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,760
Speaker 3: Oklahoma State defense because the you know, Alan Bowman and

1183
01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 3: Brendan Presley. I mean, that's kind of all. It's the

1184
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:27,439
Speaker 3: only situation, that's the only receiver. He kind of looks

1185
01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,880
Speaker 3: at Alan Bowman for better or worse. But Brendan Presley

1186
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 3: was great. Baylor woke up or not Baylor woke up,

1187
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:35,200
Speaker 3: but Baylor keeps it going. And you look at the

1188
01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:37,480
Speaker 3: rest of Baylor's schedule and you can pull it up tie.

1189
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: It's pretty great.

1190
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,520
Speaker 3: If they're scoring forty a game, it's pretty great.

1191
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: They do have an offense.

1192
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:45,560
Speaker 3: They have an offense.

1193
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: They absolutely have an offense. The rest of the way,

1194
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: it's TCU. You mentioned, got TCU next week. Then they

1195
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: go into a buy close out the year at West

1196
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,640
Speaker 1: Virginia at Houston Home against Kansas A.

1197
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 3: J's a Michigan fan where this offense has been all year. Okay,

1198
01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:07,760
Speaker 3: So they run, they call a really successful trick play

1199
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:14,480
Speaker 3: and Davis Swarren, while not incredible, completes passes for first downs.

1200
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:16,640
Speaker 3: He is the quarterback that gives him the best chance

1201
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,520
Speaker 3: to complete passes downfield and in a very losable spot

1202
01:02:19,560 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 3: to Michigan State, who started out that game quite successfully.

1203
01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 3: Michigan stayed with it. I think Michigan's defense is maybe

1204
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 3: above average in this moment, and that's okay, because that's

1205
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:32,600
Speaker 3: good enough to beat Michigan State. They're able to move

1206
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 3: the ball. A nice win at home in front of

1207
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 3: a home crowd.

1208
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:37,280
Speaker 1: Twenty four to seventeen is a really nice win.

1209
01:02:37,640 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 3: Ohio State fan Alarmed Tennessee fan feeling thankful that the

1210
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: only the Yankees are making me miserable this evening, as

1211
01:02:44,080 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 3: I could not handle the double misery. Ty, I got

1212
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 3: to introduce you to Tommy Edmond. He is just yet Babe,

1213
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 3: Ruth Tank, Aaron and Ted Williams all in a tiny,

1214
01:02:55,040 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 3: tiny little package. I'm a Texas Tech fan. I'm feeling

1215
01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 3: like we're a five and three two that might not

1216
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 3: hit six wins. That is not a great feeling.

1217
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:04,720
Speaker 1: No, that's not good at all.

1218
01:03:05,040 --> 01:03:09,600
Speaker 3: The slow bleed so yeah, Baron Morton injured in this

1219
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: one and TCU pulling them out not always pretty. Put

1220
01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:20,320
Speaker 3: TCU winning record, gonna go bowling, it's pretty decent.

1221
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I don't know.

1222
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: I had to watch a ton of this game. Excited

1223
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 3: to watch it Sunday or Monday.

1224
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: The only thing that I'll close the segment out with

1225
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: is saying, if I am a fan of Group of

1226
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 1: five football, the MAC is pretty damn awesome right now,

1227
01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,080
Speaker 1: the Mac. Yeah, the MAC looks great. So we had

1228
01:03:37,080 --> 01:03:39,600
Speaker 1: the Bowling Green Toledo rivalry, which we are a ton

1229
01:03:39,600 --> 01:03:40,160
Speaker 1: of points in.

1230
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: I almost picked the winner of that game. By the way,

1231
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:44,600
Speaker 3: you had one of two teams to pick.

1232
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:49,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty one to twenty six, Bowling Green, your Bowling Green.

1233
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:54,439
Speaker 1: So our Falcons knocked off Toledo. Nice win for Bowling Green.

1234
01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,840
Speaker 1: Bowling Green obviously has taken teams like A and M

1235
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:00,640
Speaker 1: and Penn State to the wire, so it's was probably

1236
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: foolishould be to not pick them.

1237
01:04:01,880 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 3: Well, they're better on the road too, Yeah, better.

1238
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: On the road, but Bowling Green with a nice win.

1239
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:12,160
Speaker 1: We had Western Michigan knocking off Kent State. That in

1240
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,280
Speaker 1: and of itself isn't really that big of a surprise.

1241
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,960
Speaker 1: Kent State is not a very good team. However, Western

1242
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 1: is undefeated and now alone atop the back. Yes and

1243
01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,400
Speaker 1: weaknight maction to decide their fate is going to occur

1244
01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:29,120
Speaker 1: over the next few weeks just kind of file that

1245
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: away ball State knocked off NIU, talking about the worst

1246
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:38,040
Speaker 1: loss of the year for Notre Dame. Right, and I

1247
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 1: use defense collapsed after a field goal to take the

1248
01:04:41,320 --> 01:04:44,400
Speaker 1: lead with like fifteen seconds to go. They allow a

1249
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,439
Speaker 1: thirty four yard pass that lets ball State into field

1250
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: goal range. Five of nius eight games this season have

1251
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 1: been one score games. So Tom Hammond or Tom Hammond,

1252
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: Tom ham Mick, excuse me, different guy has definitely had

1253
01:05:02,320 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: his uh his season on eggshells. And to close things

1254
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:08,960
Speaker 1: out here.

1255
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 3: By the way, did you hear he's just like a

1256
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 3: little sidebar here during the Notre Dame. I guess you

1257
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 3: weren't watching the Notre Dame game super closely today because

1258
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 3: you were in and out and watch it after the fact.

1259
01:05:19,960 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 3: It was revealed that Marcus Freeman shows Notre Dame the

1260
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 3: NIU game before every game in the late like least

1261
01:05:27,320 --> 01:05:30,960
Speaker 3: chill thing, Like, coach, we know it was a bad Saturday,

1262
01:05:31,080 --> 01:05:33,640
Speaker 3: we were there, we know it's not going to happen again.

1263
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,720
Speaker 3: And he's like, guess we're watching, Yeah, we're watching Homeward

1264
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 3: Bound again. You know, he was just just every single

1265
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:43,240
Speaker 3: Saturday they're watching the NIU game man.

1266
01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: The beatings tough beat The beatings will continue until improves

1267
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:53,560
Speaker 1: exactly works right. Thank you everybody for writing in. We

1268
01:05:53,600 --> 01:05:56,360
Speaker 1: did have a bunch of doodle ert suggestions. If that's

1269
01:05:56,360 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: something that you'd be interested by. Not, of course, who'd

1270
01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,480
Speaker 1: the for ballerhood send in today.

1271
01:06:03,720 --> 01:06:06,680
Speaker 3: Jackson Corville? If I got that right? For ball State

1272
01:06:06,880 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 3: four or five from forty seven to fifty and fifty two,

1273
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: k Man Makai Hughes Tulane went for nearly two hundred

1274
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:18,640
Speaker 3: on the ground and that I guess it was a

1275
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,480
Speaker 3: shootout win over North Texas, covering by half a point.

1276
01:06:22,760 --> 01:06:25,680
Speaker 3: Taylor Green, by the way, should point out I know

1277
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:28,800
Speaker 3: there are like popular weight loss drugs that people are

1278
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 3: taking in twenty twenty four. If you truly want to

1279
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 3: lose weight and stick to a program, play offense for

1280
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,160
Speaker 3: Arkansas when they play against Mississippi State. You will get

1281
01:06:38,280 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 3: You will have so many calories gone from your life.

1282
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 3: Everybody got exercise for Arkansas against Mississippi State today. So

1283
01:06:47,080 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: Taylor Green six touchdowns, almost four hundred total yards, cam

1284
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 3: Lockridge at Fresno seven tackles, two picks. Chandler Morris has

1285
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,800
Speaker 3: mentioned North Texas excuse me in the losing effort. Cooper

1286
01:06:56,880 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 3: Lega for Tulsa a crazy comeback against Utsa, legs and

1287
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 3: arms for Lega. Fernando Mendoza Cal absolutely obliterated Oregon State.

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Speaker 3: Darquis Hunter went for to seventy eight. Did I see

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Speaker 3: that number correctly? And they didn't watch much of these.

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Speaker 3: They be Kentucky, They be Kentucky. The elite loser. Hugh

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Speaker 3: Freese was a winner, so gotta give him credit there.

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Speaker 3: Braylon Russell, the running back for Arkansas, went off, Dawson

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Speaker 3: Pendergrass on the ground for Baylor and through the air

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Speaker 3: a little bit, I believe, coleman Owen for Ohio went off,

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Speaker 3: and Roderick Daniels. It wasn't all bad for SMU on

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Speaker 3: offense with the turnovers. He was great as a weapon

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Speaker 3: through the air for the Mustangs. So so, your dudes,

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Speaker 3: there are two other dudes that need to be mentioned here, Dan,

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Speaker 3: please please do they do?

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Speaker 1: They do play for the BYU fighting Cougars. Oh? Okay.

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Speaker 1: One is holder Sam vander Haarr. The other kicker Will Farren,

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Speaker 1: who's a wild fake field goal? Yes, I have never

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Speaker 1: seen this version of a fake field goal in my life.

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Speaker 1: So to reiterate, we have seen the play. It is

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Speaker 1: burned into college football lore, the fake field goal of

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Speaker 1: the holder taking the snap no look, tossing it back

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Speaker 1: over his head, of course to the kicker who is

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Speaker 1: sort of running what amounts to a pitch play. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: who goes around the end seemingly to get a first

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Speaker 1: down or a touchdown. We've seen this before. LSU did

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Speaker 1: it very famously. What I have not seen happen is

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Speaker 1: what Sam Vanderhardt did in this BYU game, which is

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Speaker 1: instead of throwing it back over his head, instead almost

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Speaker 1: acting like he fumbled the snap, then springing his legs

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Speaker 1: up and snapping the ball back to the kicker as

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Speaker 1: he is running around in the two It was two snaps,

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Speaker 1: it was one play. It was a successful fake field

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Speaker 1: goal that went for I think about eight yards and

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Speaker 1: a first down for BYU. When it's working, it's really

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Speaker 1: working again, occult forces of the verballerhood here with BYU.

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Speaker 3: And I think the kicker had the opportunity to throw

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Speaker 3: it on the play as well, and he did was

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Speaker 3: to run it. Yeah, he did.

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Speaker 2: So.

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Speaker 1: It was a fake field goal that kind of looked

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Speaker 1: like a fake field goal was definitely a planned endeavor.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, you don't.

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Speaker 1: Technically, that doesn't just happen because you're trying to make

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Speaker 1: no no, no. He it was a deliberate snap back

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Speaker 1: between his legs to the kicker who ran for a

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Speaker 1: first down did have the option to throw. I have

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Speaker 1: never seen if anybody has seen another play like this,

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Speaker 1: send me the YouTube clip, send me a still image.

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Speaker 1: I have never seen anything like that. I would love

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Speaker 1: to meet the person that put that together.

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Speaker 3: Somebody will do a story on the behind the scenes

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Speaker 3: of that fake field goal, and it almost feels like

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Speaker 3: the money quote from that story will be We tried

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Speaker 3: it in practice. It went horrendously bad. It didn't work,

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Speaker 3: It got snuffed out immediately, but we figured, why the

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Speaker 3: hell not, let's try it in a game.

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Speaker 1: My thought after seeing it was, is that something that

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Speaker 1: the holder just wanted to do as a flex right?

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Speaker 1: I feel like the holder makes that call if he's

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01:10:07,400 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: going to go for it or not. It's like when

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 1: the gymnast is up on the balance beam and you

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 1: could go for the higher impact move and decide against it.

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Speaker 1: I'm just wondering if he was Sam Sam Vanderharr If

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Speaker 1: you're listening, right in soliverable at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're going to do something, do it right

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01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:23,719
Speaker 3: with some flair.

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Speaker 1: I want to know if you had like a choice

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01:10:26,280 --> 01:10:28,719
Speaker 1: route there where you could either go between the legs

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01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: or just go with the standard flip.

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Speaker 3: Over the back of the head, right, it executed it perfectly.

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Speaker 1: And last, but certainly not least, here are your week

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Speaker 1: nine reverbs.

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Speaker 4: Have a listen with a game winning field goal at

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01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:46,960
Speaker 4: the end. The Bronze Stock Trophy stays in Muncie. This

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01:10:47,160 --> 01:10:52,120
Speaker 4: year ball State beats Northern Illinois. Could they beat Notre Dame?

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Speaker 4: This is Derek, I'm going to Browska Prairie.

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Speaker 2: Is this Steve calling from Atlanta, Georgia?

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01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:02,840
Speaker 4: Heyay, this is Ash calling in from Atlanta. I don't understand.

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Speaker 2: If Middle Tennessee is the worst team in the FPS,

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01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 2: then in that Kennesaw State who was to them last week?

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Speaker 3: But then why am I saying that Kennesaw State?

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:18,560
Speaker 4: Just see Liberty not today? Diego Pavia went into the

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01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 4: skill open rules. I wish I could go back in

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01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 4: time and tell like eight to twelve year old Nebraska

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01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:27,880
Speaker 4: fan me when they were winning three national championships in

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01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 4: four years that eventually it would just lead me to

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01:11:30,920 --> 01:11:35,599
Speaker 4: a descent into madness and constant depression and hating myself.

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Speaker 2: I have a simple message for Tony Elliott after j

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01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 2: Day's bleep show of a performance change or be changed.

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01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 2: I sure hope that NBC got Tyler Warren's permission to

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01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:53,519
Speaker 2: call him inspector Gadget, because I will not be calling

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01:11:53,600 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 2: him anything besides inspector Gadget until further notice.

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Speaker 1: War damn Eagle.

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:04,760
Speaker 4: We got an SDC wind, Birmingham Bull or Bucks. It's

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01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:06,080
Speaker 4: Jimmy from ann Arbor.

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Speaker 1: Even when we suck, We're better than Michigan Site, Little

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Speaker 1: Row doing little ro things, go blue, the fighting Texas Aggies.

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01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,160
Speaker 2: I could run through a wall and eat all the

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01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:21,639
Speaker 2: drywall left because Kyle got.

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:26,360
Speaker 4: Me amped up. The coobs are eight and oh Flyinheim

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 4: Utah fun.

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01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 2: They sucked.

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:31,880
Speaker 4: Hey, I just got home from college game day and

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 4: Memorial Stadium and wait a second, Hey, honey, get.

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01:12:37,160 --> 01:12:39,559
Speaker 2: Out the good China Indiana eight.

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01:12:39,680 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 4: No row row row your boat, row row row your boat.

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01:12:45,760 --> 01:12:49,639
Speaker 4: No row row your boat, row row row your boat.

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01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:52,639
Speaker 1: Jill down the stream the snowdre Dame.

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Speaker 4: Just eat fifty one and fourteen sky Yuma row the boat.

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Speaker 3: Baby.

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Speaker 1: Look, it was a long day of college football. We're

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01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:05,120
Speaker 1: all a little tired. The reverbs always a wonderful sound

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01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: in these years. Thank you to one and all for

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Speaker 1: giving us a holler. Yes, Dan, that does it for

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Speaker 1: our week nine recap episode. Hope everybody enjoyed this. It

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Speaker 1: has been a long day of college football. We are

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Speaker 1: going to go and do our spillover episode on Tuesday.

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01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 1: So anything we didn't talk about anything, we need to

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01:13:24,040 --> 01:13:27,040
Speaker 1: unpack more things that we think about a little bit

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01:13:27,120 --> 01:13:30,560
Speaker 1: more and want to discuss. We will do that on Tuesday.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to hit follow, don't forget to hit subscribes

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Speaker 1: already done that, tell a friend we've a review. All

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Speaker 1: that stuff helps more people find us. Again, just as

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Speaker 1: a reminder to the crowd out there that is watching

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Speaker 1: this live, that stops by every Saturday night at midnight

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Speaker 1: Eastern to watch this live, we will be in an Arbi,

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01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 1: Michigan watching the Michigan organ game. A week from tonight.

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Speaker 1: We will have something in this place. We're not exactly

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01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: sure what. We're still work on that, but.

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Speaker 3: There will be a Saturday night recap show of some

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Speaker 3: kind next Saturday. That will be here. And if you

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Speaker 3: are tailgating at the Michigan Oregon game, let us know.

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,599
Speaker 3: I don't know if there's anything you want to take

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01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: advantage of listeners for beyond tailgate opportunities. TI, is there

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01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: anything else that you need?

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Speaker 1: No?

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01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,960
Speaker 3: No, do you need like a Shiatsu massage sometime to

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01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,599
Speaker 3: work out some of your your knots?

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01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: Anything outside of Michigan Stadium.

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01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 3: No, I'm good, I'm good. Okay, fair enough.

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:34,040
Speaker 1: Tailing tailgateing will do just fine.

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01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 3: We'd love to say, Hi, we're very excited to go

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01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 3: to ann Arbor. It is the first time that we

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01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 3: are actually attending a game in quite some time. We've

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01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:46,400
Speaker 3: gone to national championship games and made stuff before games

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01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 3: and then left for the actual game. So excited to

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Speaker 3: tailgate wander around. It should be quite good.

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01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,519
Speaker 1: Yeah, and we went to Northwestern do back in week two.

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01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 3: But we did, we did.

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01:14:55,439 --> 01:14:59,480
Speaker 1: But we're talking real stadiums here, real stadiums that aren't portable,

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,719
Speaker 1: and you know, man have a little bit more history

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01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 1: behind him.

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01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the fake stadium taking taking some strays here from

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01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 3: Ty hilden Brand at Northwestern on the.

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01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 1: Lake IOK, they're not even playing there anymore.

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01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 3: I know they're at regularly now. Yeah, holler, we're gonna

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01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 3: be in ann Arbor. Come come say hi some way somehow.

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Speaker 1: Week nine, officially in the books, looks like Colorado. Barring

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01:15:20,479 --> 01:15:24,960
Speaker 1: any kind of great comeback, we'll emerge victorious here. We

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01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: could talk about that on Tuesday. For that guy out there,

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01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: my good friend Dan Rubisin, for myself, Ty hildon Brand,

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01:15:31,200 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: thank you for downwenning, for listening, for supporting. We will

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Speaker 1: talk y'all soon. S