WEBVTT - Episode 352: Exit The Friend-Zone (Feat. Kali & Boo Sledge) 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:05.560 What's up this lip service? I'm Angela Yee McGuire. I'm 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:13.640 talking to Santiago Boom. You gotta do no, you gotta 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.160 just jump in. This is actually great that you messed up. 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:23.159 Love it repping the rack service right now period. And 0:00:23.239 --> 0:00:29.560 I'm Callie. You did a whole drop. I want you 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:33.200 to keep that. CALLI is definitely like lip service gold 0:00:33.240 --> 0:00:36.479 for us. Really, thank you. Yeah, so thank you for 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:38.720 coming on here. Thank you all for having me. So 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:41.559 you're in town from Atlanta? So what you what you've 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:43.680 been doing about you here in New York? I just 0:00:43.760 --> 0:00:47.440 actually I just landed. I've been in Detroit. I'm on 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.520 tour with a lot of US. I've been in every 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:52.720 city about now. But I'm only be here for a 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:55.040 couple of hours. Okay, So all you did was really 0:00:55.080 --> 0:00:58.160 just eat and come here, all right? You know eating 0:00:58.280 --> 0:01:00.440 is important. Yeah, but every time I come to me 0:01:00.600 --> 0:01:04.000 like I don't really like the food. What where have 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:06.679 you eaten that you don't even remember? Yeah, you gotta 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.720 go a place I never I never do because we 0:01:09.800 --> 0:01:12.679 got to get you are certified list of good restaurants. 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:18.160 I think it's one place Jul Jul. Yeah, it's like 0:01:18.280 --> 0:01:22.440 Chinese Asian food. Yeah, that's like it. We loved you, 0:01:22.640 --> 0:01:25.000 but that's not the that's not the one right now, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:30.080 where's the it's um say last now, I think I've 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:35.000 been there too, better right, No in Brooklyn, I'm gonna 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.560 be honest. Yeah, because I live in Atlanta. So we 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:42.720 got some good food where food that really fill you up? 0:01:42.760 --> 0:01:45.200 You want to eat the whole plate. If we were 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:47.440 visiting in Atlanta right now, yeah, would you text you 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:51.600 where we should eat? What's the top? I like seafood? Okay, 0:01:51.680 --> 0:01:58.200 so it's this place called the boiler Yes, sea feel bad? Yeah, okay, 0:01:58.440 --> 0:02:00.960 it's real good. I like steaks and like mash potatoes 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:07.680 in the steak market. Yeah, that's my jam my boyfriend 0:02:07.640 --> 0:02:09.840 and there for like a little date night and blew 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:11.720 his mind. I was so happy that he liked that. Yeah, 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:13.760 I want with my best friend. And we had these 0:02:13.840 --> 0:02:16.880 drinks that the smoke was coming out of the roads. 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:21.240 I had three. They have very whimsical presentation. Whimsical. I've 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:24.519 never heard anybody used that in a real life situation. 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.720 You got your state wrapped and gold. No, I'm not 0:02:28.840 --> 0:02:32.240 real big on red meat. I'm very, very rarely eat it. So, um, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.960 I've been there twice and both times I didn't have 0:02:35.000 --> 0:02:37.639 steak at all. However, Um, the first time I went 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:40.519 to people that I was with, hats, You're not from 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.480 New York, you from Chicago. From Chicago, so what do 0:02:43.480 --> 0:02:45.359 you think about the food here? I'm just caring in 0:02:45.400 --> 0:02:48.800 New York. It's been good my first earlier times when 0:02:48.840 --> 0:02:50.400 I was coming to New York, I was a lot younger, 0:02:50.400 --> 0:02:53.519 so I wasn't eating. I was eating like that shipped 0:02:53.520 --> 0:02:57.960 off the street. They're cooking like rice and we're coming 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:06.520 from a club. So it was like tree right is that? Um? 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.480 What was it? Parkmer ready? And yeah, yeah, I've been 0:03:12.360 --> 0:03:14.920 chicken over right the white sloo he pay a little 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:23.600 at the end of the shot. Yea even like, so, 0:03:23.760 --> 0:03:27.000 now what are you eating? And when you like? I 0:03:27.040 --> 0:03:31.160 went to Sweet Chicks. That was my first time as 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:36.160 part owners. What's your favorite? Um? I do like Brooklyn 0:03:36.200 --> 0:03:39.200 chop house. I love my little Brooklyn spots. So like 0:03:39.760 --> 0:03:43.360 I like Caribbean food. Yeah, heaches in Brooklyn the grill 0:03:44.320 --> 0:03:48.440 um chillies. I love Caribbean food. Okay, So when I'm 0:03:48.480 --> 0:03:51.080 telling you next time we're gonna make we'll get you right, yeah, 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:55.640 good food here. Yeah, my foodie, I like I do 0:03:56.000 --> 0:03:58.440 when I come to you. I was sorry telling my manager. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.320 I was like, we lead New York like us. No 0:04:01.400 --> 0:04:05.080 food for me? We got you, dam I'm so big. 0:04:05.840 --> 0:04:07.520 When I think of food in New York, I think 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:17.080 of like Ruth Chris, Mr Child Noble. Yeah, all right, 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.960 so let's talk about something I like about food and 0:04:19.040 --> 0:04:22.240 eat and eat it up alright. First of all, we 0:04:22.360 --> 0:04:24.320 love being on here too, and the two of y'all 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:28.040 together was definitely a vibe. So let's talk about that song. 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:31.800 Because I have always said, what's my what's my motto? 0:04:32.120 --> 0:04:35.960 He better respect the box? Yeah, I got to respect it, 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.800 and so like you wouldn't have sech of somebody they 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:42.800 didn't eat it first. No, even if I'm not giving, 0:04:42.960 --> 0:04:46.560 like you know, giving it back, you definitely gotta you know, 0:04:46.800 --> 0:04:49.480 not get me ready, Yeah, get me right. But as 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:54.960 a man, what are your thoughts about that? I totally agree. 0:04:55.920 --> 0:04:57.640 I don't even want to do if I can't eat, 0:04:57.800 --> 0:04:59.440 I shouldn't even be wanting to do nothing else with 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:01.960 smart about you like me for real, you know, like 0:05:02.120 --> 0:05:04.920 we were supposed to be. Yeah, we just you know, 0:05:05.040 --> 0:05:07.480 I don't have to like you know, so you eat 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:17.880 somebody susy that you don't like. For sure, I'm a man, 0:05:11.880 --> 0:05:20.440 thank you. I cannot like some ship she do or 0:05:20.520 --> 0:05:22.920 something like that. But the end of the day, she 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.080 got a box. Would you second you didn't like if 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:27.839 you didn't like the guy. No, No, that's what we 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.200 go differently, and y'all that's why y'all smarter than us, 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.000 and y'all make better decisions because y'all understand that. You 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.880 know what I'm saying that if I don't like you, 0:05:35.920 --> 0:05:38.440 I shouldn't be doing that. But as a man, just 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.040 being real, I don't gotta like you to eat your pussy, 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:43.640 you anything or talk to you nothing. I don't gotta 0:05:43.640 --> 0:05:46.640 like you. But that's why would you don't have to 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:49.359 do that? So why would do if I like you? 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:53.600 That doesn't really that's just like the do that you 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:57.800 are telling about a sexual experience. Okay, so we're gonna 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.560 we've been engaging that like, I'm not not sex if 0:06:00.600 --> 0:06:02.680 I can't do that or you at the caliber that 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:06.680 I should be doing that too. Okay, I understand what 0:06:06.720 --> 0:06:09.760 I'm saying. He also feels like though, that he can't 0:06:09.760 --> 0:06:13.320 have women friends. I choose not to you choose not 0:06:13.400 --> 0:06:16.560 to have platonic. I can't say can't and I respect 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:19.160 the guys who do. But I don't know. I just 0:06:19.360 --> 0:06:22.600 you know, for me, you know, you walk past one 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:24.040 you don't see her, like, oh, that's a good friend 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:25.960 for me that you don't see. No platonic, none of that. 0:06:29.320 --> 0:06:33.760 I feel like, I just don't. I feel like this men, um, 0:06:34.400 --> 0:06:36.920 you're just being honest about it, Like, yeah, I could 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.320 be cool with a girl, but she let me slip. 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:44.799 I'm gonna slide because what else are we cool about? 0:06:44.960 --> 0:06:47.679 Like as a man, like, what are we really talking about? 0:06:47.760 --> 0:06:53.800 What I talked to you about friends? To understand you're 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.960 saying you're not. We can talk about music, we can 0:06:57.000 --> 0:07:00.919 talk about sports. I'm a gambler. I fight like we 0:07:00.960 --> 0:07:06.320 can talking about UFC whatever, hockey football? Hold you fight? Yeah? 0:07:06.520 --> 0:07:13.960 You about me and my guy friends. I'm a girl. 0:07:14.000 --> 0:07:17.559 I grew up in the street guy friends. But listen 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:19.920 to me. This is what I'm saying now. My guy 0:07:19.960 --> 0:07:24.920 friends are squares, so they my girlfriends. I called them 0:07:24.920 --> 0:07:28.240 my brothers. We never had sex before. But if I 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:30.680 also be like, uh, I got it is can you 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:41.559 scratch it? If I gave them right, Yeah, that friends 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.480 that wouldn't sleep with me. You don't, you don't, you don't, 0:07:44.840 --> 0:07:47.920 you don't really you don't. You don't know that I do, Yeah, 0:07:49.480 --> 0:07:52.840 because they're either married or involved with somebody that I'm 0:07:52.880 --> 0:08:02.680 friends with, or that's still none of them. But I'm like, 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:04.640 I'm not never saying I don't know, Like I'm just 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:09.040 being honest with myself. I had a situation. I was 0:08:09.120 --> 0:08:11.600 younger right like um, and it was like cool with 0:08:11.640 --> 0:08:15.200 this girl and we was like fortunate kids at school. 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.360 So that's like Timmy, he'll figure phase like we're coming 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:20.960 through having had the same type of time on they're 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:26.280 missing scooted that I bought her when and we yeah, 0:08:26.280 --> 0:08:30.880 on accident at even nothing, So they kind of put 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.600 this narrative out and she wasn't like no, um, like 0:08:33.679 --> 0:08:36.040 she was a popular chick and I'm just this new 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:38.800 dude that doesn't transfer us like they're getting me cloud instantly, 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:42.000 and I'm like, I ain't even on her right, so 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.559 just off that I looked at her different, so I 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:47.200 was being I never shot at her like at us. 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.200 Sweater Goud, This's why I think like this sweater Goud 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.400 so like a year pocket it I get a record 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.480 deal year past, I see on my confidence up a 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:56.800 little bit better. I like to say, damn, you know, 0:08:56.800 --> 0:08:59.640 I always dug you like you ain't know she'sh you 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:03.319 just ever said nothing. And since that day and you 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.720 let me come back, I'm gonna let you know if 0:09:05.760 --> 0:09:07.920 I see you that way. Other than that, I don't 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:10.280 see a woman. Sorry to say that I saw to god, 0:09:10.280 --> 0:09:13.880 I don't know at all. But if I see a woman, 0:09:13.920 --> 0:09:16.959 I see, oh how cannot enter? Not everyone, but if 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:20.120 I feel that, but I have to see this. Most 0:09:20.160 --> 0:09:23.120 of my guy friends that are my guy friends today, 0:09:23.280 --> 0:09:25.559 I want to and this is the truth. And they 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.559 know what's the truth. And their girlfriend's probably know what's 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:33.320 the truth too. That when they met me, they told 0:09:33.360 --> 0:09:36.840 me this. They shot but they just didn't want to 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:39.679 be out the car with you, right because guess what, 0:09:39.720 --> 0:09:43.560 you have to get some puss exactly saying that. But 0:09:43.600 --> 0:09:45.480 sometimes you just gotta kick some game for really no, 0:09:45.559 --> 0:09:48.400 and I please, that's what. That was one of my 0:09:48.480 --> 0:09:50.840 main things when I was because a girl growing up 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:52.640 with a lot of guys. I used to do things, 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:55.160 you know, with my we used to get money together 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:57.160 and things, and I always you know I say this 0:09:57.240 --> 0:09:58.880 a lot. I always hung out with a girl who 0:09:58.960 --> 0:10:01.880 was very promiscuous. Is you know who was easily to 0:10:01.960 --> 0:10:04.720 give up through you gonna do this work exactly? And 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.000 I used to be able to go my guys, and 0:10:07.080 --> 0:10:11.440 my guys appreciate from you. It's my point that I got. 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:14.319 But I have to say that they shoot their shot 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.880 at because they respect me when they get let down. 0:10:17.960 --> 0:10:24.720 They didn't call all that friend ship. But because you 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.840 go out like have guys that you've just been cool 0:10:26.840 --> 0:10:29.200 with taking you out to dinner, just think that done 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:34.960 things like that, but not anything happening. See now, because 0:10:35.880 --> 0:10:37.760 I'm just the type of person. If I really don't 0:10:37.760 --> 0:10:41.400 even like you, I'm not even gonna give it a 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:46.360 dinner day and none of that, not even just being cool. Now, 0:10:46.400 --> 0:10:49.400 I'm cool with people I've been on Like these are 0:10:49.440 --> 0:10:52.360 people I've been like little kids, like little girl grew 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:54.720 up with you and stuff like that. So it's it's 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:56.559 really hard. I'm kind of closed off when it comes 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.839 to letting people in my life. So like when it 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.000 comes to me like different guys and stuff, it takes 0:11:01.000 --> 0:11:04.839 so much Like where do you think that comes from? 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:08.640 You being closed off? First of all I've seen. My 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:11.559 my dad ain't really been like in my life at all. 0:11:12.040 --> 0:11:16.120 And my my mom, she like seeing how she dealt 0:11:16.120 --> 0:11:19.080 with her relationships and stuff like that. And then my 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.559 mom came out she was lesbian. Like when I was sixteen, 0:11:23.520 --> 0:11:25.920 I was just like, I don't know, like she never 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:29.000 really taught me like how to deal with like relationships 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:30.800 and stuff like that. So I'll just be like I 0:11:30.920 --> 0:11:33.480 just I'm focused on something else. So it'll come, you know, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.040 whenever it happens. But I just don't be want to 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.880 put my energy towards that. I just see how she 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.160 dealt with stuff and office to my mom loved her, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.280 but like I just don't be wanting to go through 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:47.680 what she was going through, right and that. So you 0:11:47.720 --> 0:11:50.160 think that you started writing and rapping when you were 0:11:50.320 --> 0:11:53.640 twelve years old? Yeah, okay, So what made you decided 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.160 to start doing that? Like what was the circumstances for you? 0:11:56.559 --> 0:11:59.200 My mom she was married and he was a producer. 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:02.480 You always have like my godmother and they're singing or 0:12:02.520 --> 0:12:04.600 like different girls and they're wrapping and stuff like that, 0:12:04.640 --> 0:12:06.520 and I just like that's so cool, Like you know, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.040 I want to try, like I'll be writing in my 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:12.160 little journal and stuff, like I was a soccer player, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.960 so and I didn't really have no friends. I was 0:12:13.960 --> 0:12:16.400 actually like bully throughout the school. So I was just 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.200 like just teach me, Like, teach me, how do I 0:12:20.240 --> 0:12:22.240 want to hang with you? Like, you know, since my 0:12:22.800 --> 0:12:25.000 dad wasn't really there in a younger life, I'm like, okay, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:27.000 and let me see if I can find a way 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.360 to like bond with my stepdad in a certain way, 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:32.839 you know. So then he just taught me everything. But 0:12:32.960 --> 0:12:35.080 I was waiting there every day even if I wasn't 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:38.000 doing nothing. I'm just just around. I'm just sitting there, yeah, 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.880 trying to sing, trying to anything if I could, Yoto, 0:12:40.960 --> 0:12:45.360 I was coaching. Yeah. So you have an interesting story 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.480 about how you got signed at How old you when 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:52.079 you got something? Sixteen? How did that happen? In Chicago? 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:54.920 I was out one night, um me and some of 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.559 my my good childhood friends and um, I was at 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.480 the McDonald's actually, and it's crazy R Kelly discovering me. 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:10.720 I know it's crazy, but it was like this McDonald's 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.760 done in Chicago. It's called rocking at the time, and 0:13:13.800 --> 0:13:16.560 now it's like really like like new Millenium Mine like 0:13:16.640 --> 0:13:18.520 something like soon. You know, it was like a staple 0:13:18.559 --> 0:13:21.240 to go to. They had it like designed like seventies 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.960 style sixties or some ship like that. So that was 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:26.839 like on the weekend, if you was downtown, able to 0:13:26.880 --> 0:13:28.560 get downtown, you might go up. And it was like 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.400 twenty four hours. So we go with one of my 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:34.199 good friends. He just got a scholarship to do. It 0:13:34.320 --> 0:13:36.600 was like hooping and ship. So my man, Corey mcgetty 0:13:36.640 --> 0:13:39.520 shot him out whatever. So we just happened to go 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.199 down there and it was like super packed, so we 0:13:42.240 --> 0:13:44.000 couldn't really even get in the parking lot. And he 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.720 went in to use the restroom and uh, it was 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:48.240 taking a long and I just got out because I 0:13:48.240 --> 0:13:49.800 had never been down there, like I want to see 0:13:49.800 --> 0:13:52.320 what's up. I'm walking through the parking lot, you know, 0:13:52.360 --> 0:13:54.800 I'm thinking like it's like people like showing off their 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:56.640 cars and all that type of ship. So it's a 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:58.840 lot of people crowding around somebody around the car and 0:13:58.880 --> 0:14:01.400 it was killed and he just happened to see and 0:14:01.440 --> 0:14:04.160 I was looking at the car and realize like it 0:14:04.240 --> 0:14:07.839 was him. You know, this is like night, you know 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:10.120 what I'm saying. So you ain't, I'm saying. And then 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:13.080 in Chicago's we ain't saying nobody fails and he wasn't 0:14:13.080 --> 0:14:16.600 looking famous, no jewelry on them. And then I'm like, damn, 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:18.800 you know I didn't notice that. Somebody in his camp 0:14:18.840 --> 0:14:21.520 noticed my homie who hooped and we got to talk 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:23.360 about basketball and I was like, man, let's play for 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:30.240 some money and I ain't even had none. He was like, 0:14:30.680 --> 0:14:33.480 what you do since you're doing all the talking. I'm like, ship, who, 0:14:33.520 --> 0:14:34.920 I'm trying to get you all to come you know 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.240 this bet sucker um you know. And he's like, man, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.560 you look like you rapped. But you know, I've been 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:45.080 super like super, that's crazy. I'm from Chicago, but East 0:14:45.080 --> 0:14:48.000 Coast rapp has had me early on, so I looked 0:14:48.000 --> 0:14:50.960 different from anybody from Chicas. I carry myself like that. 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.720 And he was looking like and I'm like, na, but 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:55.240 rap and he's like, just wrap a song, you know, 0:14:55.320 --> 0:14:58.280 I don't care, You're just it's or about you whatever. 0:14:59.000 --> 0:15:01.600 So I can't howdy thinking ship and I'm like, damn, 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.160 but I was puffing Mace. I was crazy about that 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:08.840 at that time. I kicked his maze Verson. He was like, man, 0:15:08.880 --> 0:15:13.880 I knew you could crab. Like, no, that's amazing what 0:15:14.000 --> 0:15:16.240 I'm saying. I'm like, but I can't. Ye, I never rapped, 0:15:16.280 --> 0:15:17.880 you know, so like, no, it's cool. I'm about to 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.640 go to the studio now, y'all should come. I went 0:15:20.680 --> 0:15:23.160 to the studio. And then that's when they kind of 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.880 clicked to me. When I went in the studio, like damn, 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:29.560 this might be coming through my head. I'm seeing all 0:15:29.600 --> 0:15:31.280 the plaques on the wall and ship. And then he 0:15:31.440 --> 0:15:33.840 just like kind of just do something out there, like, man, 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.520 I ain't making no promises, but you should give it 0:15:35.600 --> 0:15:41.080 a shot. And after that, and where was gott so 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:43.480 gotty At the time, I was, I was a solo. 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.560 I was by myself. I hadn't seen gott gout. He 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:47.920 I actually just had out of um. He had just 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.000 he was in prison for a high second and he 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.080 had just got out. But got Iss a little bit 0:15:52.120 --> 0:15:54.520 older than me. So I just happened to see him 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:56.360 in the office one day. I'm coming out the studio 0:15:56.720 --> 0:15:59.520 and he was there, like having a meeting with this dude. 0:15:59.560 --> 0:16:02.520 I ain't Williams who signed kills. He was having a meeting. 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:04.720 But he had his own CD like his face on 0:16:04.840 --> 0:16:07.200 it and like he was turning out the trunk at 0:16:07.280 --> 0:16:09.120 that time. I never saw that, like damn, how you 0:16:09.280 --> 0:16:11.240 how you did that? You know what I'm saying. But 0:16:11.320 --> 0:16:13.400 then I also know him from my neighborhood, and he 0:16:13.560 --> 0:16:16.840 was like, no, like all my cousin loved him, you 0:16:16.960 --> 0:16:20.040 know how, like somebody your family like talking about somebody. 0:16:20.120 --> 0:16:21.680 So I kind of looking up to him, like, no, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.160 he's super smooth, dude is getting money the whole nine. 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.240 After that, I saw him, he remembered me from like 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.480 me being seven years old, remember everything. Seeing him another 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.680 time after that, and um, he was She was selling 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:36.960 the CD and I swear to god, I ain't had 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:39.120 no money to buy it. But I'm like, just give 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.800 it to me, you know what I'm saying, Just give 0:16:41.840 --> 0:16:43.640 it to me. Bro. He's like, I know you signed 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.760 with dude, how much you have charged me for me 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:47.600 to do a song with you. I don't even know 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.120 how to do black features. I don't even know what 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:51.440 he meant saying that. I'm just let me get the 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.800 CD up for real, and I let kills A and R. 0:16:54.840 --> 0:16:57.000 At the time, his cousin Blackie, I'll let him hear it, 0:16:58.000 --> 0:16:59.880 and before he listened to it, he said, how good? 0:17:00.840 --> 0:17:02.120 And to get him to listen to it, I said, 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.760 good enough. I wrap with him because Carl's put me 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:06.840 in the group with this producer. I'm on this song 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.679 called We Ride on the double CD to it got 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.199 jay Z Cameron in or the first song I ever 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:15.440 wrapped on. Damn. So the guy it's all in there 0:17:15.520 --> 0:17:18.040 my name and that you feel me? I wrote all 0:17:18.080 --> 0:17:21.200 much of everything me and this cat name is a 0:17:21.240 --> 0:17:31.280 double in the club track recording out here. All of 0:17:31.920 --> 0:17:36.440 youngsters don't know me, but the g yeah, all the 0:17:36.760 --> 0:17:39.840 ever fat Joe all and they know me to listen to. 0:17:40.000 --> 0:17:43.920 Growing up, I was a straight I'm still a straight, 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:49.199 nicky fan. The whole Eliyah, Missy Elliott then was my vibes. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.560 But I want to ask you one question. I heard 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.080 your music and it's in it's dope. You got a 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:57.960 real good whisper floor everything. I understand it because I 0:17:58.000 --> 0:18:00.159 don't got the biggest, strongest, loudest voice on of it. 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.840 But when you're writing from a woman perspective, and he 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:07.720 was talking about guys and everything like, and you didn't 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:11.960 your answer about guys and how your music is meaning? 0:18:12.119 --> 0:18:14.800 What place did you write it from like when you talk, 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.080 is it real or is it just like you kind 0:18:18.119 --> 0:18:20.720 of imaginary? No, It's real. And I'm talking from a 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:24.480 place where I'm dealing with somebody that I'm like really 0:18:25.560 --> 0:18:27.680 got to the point where I actually care, and I 0:18:27.800 --> 0:18:30.400 got to that point where it's like it is hot, sick, 0:18:30.560 --> 0:18:32.640 or like we is going through it like I've been dealing. 0:18:32.720 --> 0:18:35.840 I've been dealing with that person. So or my friend 0:18:35.960 --> 0:18:38.000 will be in a studio or something, or she'll talk 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:40.720 to me about the story she had something. But I 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:42.280 feel like I need to get this all much. It's 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:45.199 like talk about this because I don't want to hear 0:18:45.240 --> 0:18:48.680 this right now. Okay, girl, I'm combining all kinds of 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.679 stories that we all just talking about, like we can 0:18:50.720 --> 0:18:53.800 all relate to and like we can relate everybody else 0:18:53.840 --> 0:18:58.399 can women artists like like where they write from? You 0:18:58.440 --> 0:19:00.280 know what I'm saying, even if like a dude write 0:19:00.320 --> 0:19:02.760 it for a female, not have done that before you 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.520 write it from like how I do want to hear it, 0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.200 even if it's like a situation, I feel like I 0:19:07.320 --> 0:19:09.720 didn't handle it how I wanted to handle it, Like 0:19:09.800 --> 0:19:13.760 I'll be like I'm rapping, like what give us an example, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.520 like you just know, like if you arguing with somebody 0:19:17.720 --> 0:19:20.359 or something, you'd be like, damn, I should I should 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:24.080 have said this. Then I go in the studio like, 0:19:24.359 --> 0:19:26.520 this is what I really wanted to say, and that's 0:19:26.560 --> 0:19:31.920 what I really So that's that's get the last word. 0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:37.920 That's so I write from that perspective life. Yeah, what's 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:39.760 the most toxic sign for a man? Because you talk 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:43.639 about it in your music. I had like three. Okay, 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.760 I say scorpio, I say that, I say that, I 0:19:47.880 --> 0:19:54.560 say Pisces, and I say A said good job. Ain't 0:19:54.720 --> 0:19:59.800 none of the in between the scorpio Gemini. I like 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:08.439 Gemin like Gemini women too. In my adult life. They 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:12.320 are two different people. Yeah, yeah, exactly. I feel like 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:15.960 you just gotta understand the two different versions of them. 0:20:16.080 --> 0:20:18.720 Like it's not that they're two different people, they just 0:20:18.840 --> 0:20:22.480 have two different kinds of sides. You know, one is 0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.639 a really you know, sexual you know, hugging and a 0:20:26.800 --> 0:20:30.879 nice vibe carving robe and the other ones like the 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:36.439 other one is after they come. Because yes, exactly, man, 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.760 geminis like that. Like okay, I have a lot of 0:20:38.800 --> 0:20:42.680 Gemini female friends and that's like turn up crew like 0:20:43.160 --> 0:20:47.440 if you're ready to like, if you're ready to some pop, 0:20:49.359 --> 0:20:51.520 that's my that's my turn up crew. And it's the 0:20:51.600 --> 0:20:55.119 same with the males. I'm always bobbing with their Life's 0:20:55.119 --> 0:21:01.160 always really fun and we outside's going to keep talking 0:21:01.160 --> 0:21:04.040 about a sign too, So I love what's your sign? 0:21:05.080 --> 0:21:11.719 I'm a Sagittarius. Yeah, my best my best guy friends. 0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:17.639 You can't have a guy friend, you know that this 0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:20.200 is Let me tell you why this is my best 0:21:20.280 --> 0:21:23.440 guy friend. This this man. He's a couple of years 0:21:23.480 --> 0:21:25.080 older than me, and you know, we grew up in 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:29.119 the same neighborhood. And he has taught me more than 0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:32.320 I've learned in school about myself, you know, like I 0:21:32.440 --> 0:21:36.159 learned his three in math and you know, etiquette in school, 0:21:36.480 --> 0:21:38.560 how to fold my hands and be quiet and raise 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.119 my hand and whatever else you learned in school. But 0:21:41.680 --> 0:21:44.240 he told me about myself. He told me about my 0:21:44.480 --> 0:21:47.600 blood and my race. Like you know, I grew up 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:50.080 in a Puerto Rican family. You know, my grandmother was 0:21:50.119 --> 0:21:53.800 born in nineteen twenties, so imagine, I hate to say this, 0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:57.000 but you know my grandmother, you know, they wanted us 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.879 to be really light, and they didn't even want us 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:01.440 to tell to my in the in the summer, we 0:22:01.560 --> 0:22:03.320