1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:04,920 Speaker 1: It's Sunday, April sixth, twenty twenty five. Welcome to Real 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: America's Voice News. This is Sunday the Road Forward. Have 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: the courts gone kangaroo in America? And what danger does 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: judicial interference play in American politics? As of January the 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty first, twenty twenty five, President Donald Trump has worked 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: swiftly to implement a new policy agenda in the United States, 7 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: one that he campaigned on and the American people widely 8 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: voted for in the majority election back in November. If 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:43,280 Speaker 1: you will recall everything that President Trump campaigned on immigration tariffs, 10 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: ending wokeism, and promoting religious liberty, he has now acted 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: on in his first one hundred days. Now, unelected judges 12 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: are attempting to circumvent the will of the people and 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: President Trump's constitutional authority by blocking the very executive orders 14 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: that would end mass illegal immigration, that end government waste, 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: fraud and abuse, and that would end DEI programs at 16 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the federal agencies and reinstitute the Mexico City policy on 17 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: government funded abortion in programs abroad. The growing danger in 18 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 1: the United States is that unelected bodies of judges and 19 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: unelected bureaucrats in Washington d C have the power to 20 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,639 Speaker 1: run the government, spend trillions of dollars in taxpayer money, 21 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: and create institutional policies that are unchecked by the will 22 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: of the American people. Lest we forget, the United States 23 00:01:50,480 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: is a nation that started in a revolution whose motto 24 00:01:55,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: was no taxation without representation. One thing is clear in 25 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: all that we see. We have a lot of work 26 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: to do to restore common sense, accountability, and law and 27 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: order in our institutions. We must pray that our nation 28 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: is capable of doing just that. Our scripture reading this 29 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: morning comes from Proverbs chapter three, verses five through six. 30 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 1: Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean 31 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: not on your own understanding. In all your ways. Acknowledge 32 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Him and he will direct your paths. As always, we 33 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: want to be a source of strength and encouragement for 34 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:40,919 Speaker 1: our viewers to hold fast to the unchanging word of God. 35 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Helfanbiden. I'm filling in for doctor Tim Clinton. 36 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 1: I'll be your host today. 37 00:02:49,520 --> 00:03:10,680 Speaker 2: Saw him Oh come us, Chris Sworthyo. 38 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 3: Thirty years ago, we began to blend together addiction, recovery, 39 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 3: chemical dependency. These were two worlds that didn't really communicate 40 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: at that time. We said, no, we've got to bring 41 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 3: this all together. And here's what it was, the whole person. 42 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 4: Many of the problems clients have are very complex, and 43 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 4: you can't go at a problem with just one solution. 44 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: You have to look at the whole person, the way 45 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 4: they're eating, their relationships, their mental capacities. One of the 46 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: things that really appealed to me about being here is 47 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 4: that I was going to be working as a team 48 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: and we were going to go at each client's issues 49 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 4: and concerns together. 50 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 3: I was completely broken. 51 00:03:55,880 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 5: I needed help, and so I found this place and 52 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:02,840 Speaker 5: I have really own to be a totally different person. 53 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: Joining us now is Dave Bratt. Dave served as US 54 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: representative for Virginia's seventh Congressional district and he's currently senior 55 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: vice president of business relations at Liberty University. Dave, good 56 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: morning to you, sir. Great to see you. 57 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 6: Thank you for joining us, you bet, thanks Ryan, thanks 58 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 6: for having me on. 59 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 7: Hey, my pleasure. 60 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 1: A lot of things happening this week, with all of 61 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:36,920 Speaker 1: the announcements from the Trump administration regarding tariffs, Liberation Day, 62 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 1: recent news Mexico looks like they're backing down, and some others. 63 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: Tell Us tell Us exactly what's happening, and do you 64 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: think this strategy is going to work. 65 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, And it's interesting the mainstream media and backing down 66 00:04:53,839 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 6: and all these kind of things. Let me give you 67 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 6: a couple of stats to start us off on this 68 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,119 Speaker 6: liberation Day and tear and everybody should go to listen 69 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:06,600 Speaker 6: to Tucker Carlson's interview of Robert Leittheiser. He's the brains 70 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 6: behind the operator. He gives a very sweeping analysis of 71 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 6: what's going on here. Americans don't know. So we're running 72 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,279 Speaker 6: trade deficits with every country on the earth, not just 73 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 6: a few. And the trade deficits are massive. For the 74 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 6: US they are at a trillion dollars and they've been 75 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 6: growing for forty years in a row. So that is 76 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 6: not sustainable. So the trade deficits are huge. Then point 77 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,120 Speaker 6: number two is you get to the tariff and non 78 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 6: tariff barriers. The United States has the lowest tariffs and 79 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 6: non tariff barriers against the rest of the world. Everyone 80 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:40,920 Speaker 6: else of the G twenty, the rich countries have two 81 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 6: hundred to three hundred percent level tariffs against US. And 82 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 6: so when you say, you know, Mexico and Canada, you know, 83 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 6: we're just doing Trump means exactly what he means, reciprocal tariffs. 84 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 6: We're going to put tariffs on them the same they 85 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 6: have on us. And so why does this matter? Because 86 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: the middle class, in the working class and manufacturing has 87 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 6: been gutted. I was born in Detroit, Michigan. The city 88 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 6: was gutted because all of our fortune five hundred CEOs 89 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 6: outsourced and everybody knows, and brought their supply chains to 90 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,480 Speaker 6: China and India and etc. To get cheap labor. And 91 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 6: as a result, we lost our jobs. 92 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: You know, every time you look around. I want to 93 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: get back to this concept of forgotten man. This is 94 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: something that comes out of the nineteen thirties, right in 95 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: the whole Great Depression. The Democratic Party used to be 96 00:06:35,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: the party of the forgotten man. You know, my great 97 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 1: grandparents where they were Texans, right, and they were Evangelicals, 98 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 1: church every Sunday, every Wednesday, and faithful people and gave 99 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: sacrificially and they worked the land. They were in the 100 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 1: oil and gas business and cattle. But man, they were Democrats. 101 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 1: And it's very fascinating to see this switch all of 102 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: a sudden. You say, well, wait a second, what's our values? 103 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: When it comes to being Christians and Evangelicals, and you say, well, well, 104 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 1: wait a second. We are for the American working class. 105 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: We are for families and for the little guy. Where 106 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: did all of a sudden, Dave go wrong? Where all 107 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: of a sudden we were are Orthodoxy switched and we're 108 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: for these massive corporations saving money because we wanted to deunionize. 109 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: I know that, and we wanted to have right to work. 110 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 6: I know that. 111 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: But all of a sudden you say, hey, it's a 112 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,760 Speaker 1: good thing to have industries go overseas so we can 113 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: just buy our products from Walmart that come from China. 114 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 7: What happened? 115 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, well what happened? I mean on the religious front, 116 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 6: fifty years ago, all those CEO types you're talking about 117 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 6: used to be Presbyterians or Episcopalians, or Catholic or Jewish 118 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 6: or you know, these mainstream faiths, and. 119 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 7: Now they're not. 120 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 6: Right. If you look at just the Magnificent seven and 121 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 6: the big tech bros. I don't think there's too many Presbyterians, 122 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 6: that's joke, right, I mean, there's there's none. It's not 123 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 6: even close. And so there's been a huge cultural ship. 124 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 6: And then even worse than that, I mean the Presbyterians 125 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 6: and the old Max Weber's Calvinist work ethic. We would 126 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 6: put off consumption like your grandparents did in the story, 127 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 6: and like the iconic Black Church has done for their kids. 128 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 6: And we'd say, so the kid can go to school 129 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 6: and get educated and all that. And the and the 130 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 6: the old Presbyterian Episcopalian corporate guys. Uh, they would look 131 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 6: out for the country, right They the big bankers, you know, Morgan, 132 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 6: stanleyans on, these big names. They used to come together 133 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 6: and they'd bail out the country, you know, they'd put 134 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 6: private money up and they would help the country. Not anymore, 135 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 6: everyone's out. It's a it's a brawl to the death 136 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,080 Speaker 6: for quarterly profits. And so there's been a cultural rot 137 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 6: going on in the country that spills over in the economics. 138 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,240 Speaker 6: And no one's held accountable socially anymore. And yet the 139 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 6: Democrat Party used to be a bunch of liberals. 140 00:08:58,440 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 8: I like liberals. 141 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 6: I used to have bunch with a hundred liberals every 142 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 6: day at another school I taught at. They were fun, 143 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 6: we'd argue and have fun. They cared about the kids, 144 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,440 Speaker 6: they cared about no wars, they cared about the middle class, 145 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 6: the liberals are all gone. I don't know what liberals 146 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 6: are left. You know, RFK Juniors is kind of a 147 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 6: liberal became flipped over. But the liberals are gone. Now 148 00:09:17,800 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 6: you got the Marxist left and they are out to destroy. 149 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 6: They don't like God, they don't like the country, they 150 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 6: don't like the family, they don't like the church. So 151 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 6: it's up to Christians to man up again and see 152 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 6: what's going on. Right, for those who have eyes to see, 153 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,199 Speaker 6: it's just reciproce that he's not a bad word. Right, 154 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 6: Let's just be fair and have fair rules of the 155 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 6: game across the board again. 156 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 7: You know, it's interesting. 157 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: So going back to the macro level of things and 158 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: seeing wealth leave the country. My undergrad was in economics 159 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: at the University of Texas at Austin, and I remember 160 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: the orthodoxy at the time was trade deficits don't don't 161 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,840 Speaker 1: really matter. I was being told that constantly, and I'm like, well, 162 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: if they don't matter, why are we measuring them in 163 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: the first place? If they don't matter, right, So why 164 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,920 Speaker 1: do we constantly measure consumer price index? Why are we 165 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:10,920 Speaker 1: looking at trade deficits? Why are we counting for all 166 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: of it? Just like the national debt if it doesn't 167 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: actually matter. Meanwhile, you're looking at all of this infrastructure 168 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,520 Speaker 1: that China's building for energy, for wastewater, and all kinds 169 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: of production that they're putting in place. Now it's centralized, 170 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, the philosophy is 171 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: what's better decentralized versus centralized planning. But China's taking all 172 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: that wealth that's coming out of the United States and 173 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: they're building up their country. Is there something here that 174 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: a light bulb needs to sort of go off for 175 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: Americans and say, no, wait a second, we could do 176 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: the same thing. 177 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, well, and we don't really want to do the 178 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 6: same thing. They're a you know, communist totalitarian silence, right, 179 00:10:56,120 --> 00:11:00,160 Speaker 6: and so they know they're they're investing in capital like 180 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 6: you said, and infrastructure like crazy, but they're crushing their 181 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:04,839 Speaker 6: own people. 182 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 7: To do exactly. 183 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 6: They have like a king with a pot and he 184 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 6: just takes the pot of money from here and shoves 185 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 6: it over here. And so you know, but you're right, 186 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 6: we've got to do something. And so right now, the 187 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 6: current logic, it's even worse than what I've spelled out right. 188 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 6: The current logic is we have to have oligarchs of 189 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 6: major scale in order to compete against China, because if 190 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 6: we don't scale up, our costs won't go down. Right, 191 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 6: So then you're really in trouble because you're enriching the 192 00:11:32,559 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 6: billionaire class even more at the expense of the middle class. 193 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 6: And so you're right, you better have a strategy. And 194 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 6: so Trump, actually this is the strategy. Right. You put 195 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 6: tariffs on them, you bring everything back to the US, 196 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 6: and then you bring more competition, hopefully markets right in 197 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 6: your opening class. A market means you have a large 198 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 6: number of firms on the supply curve and a large 199 00:11:57,000 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 6: number of people on the demand curve. We don't. We 200 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 6: have monopolies right now. We got big everything because the 201 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 6: left wants to control everything, and it's easier to control 202 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 6: a monopoly, right, big healthcare, big banking, big tech, big auto, 203 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 6: big everything you can think of, is that big pharmaceutical. 204 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,319 Speaker 6: All the corruption you're seeing from DOGE come out right now, 205 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 6: is all this big corruption where they're hiding money and 206 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 6: the left is behind most of it. But our Republicans 207 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 6: didn't find any of this until recently, which is also 208 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 6: a stunner. And so make sure you're electing good people. 209 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: I really appreciate so much you coming on, Dave. Appreciate 210 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,680 Speaker 1: you enlightening us this morning. Appreciate the work. Also, just 211 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 1: a shout out to Liberty University. Just tell us one 212 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: good thing about Liberty. 213 00:12:43,520 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 7: What's going on? 214 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 6: Well, the best thing about Liberty is we trained champions 215 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 6: for Christ and the Judeo christianthos is alive and well. 216 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 6: When I was dean of the Business School, I never 217 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 6: heard one race gender, much less anti semitic phrase. Ever 218 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 6: this would come up and say, Hey, Dan Bratt, can 219 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 6: I help you tear down stuff after the pizza meetings 220 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 6: with a speaker. When I was in college, I never 221 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 6: did that. I wasn't that good. So the ethics of 222 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 6: our kids, the faith of our kids, the spirituality, it's 223 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 6: a plus. They got a work ethic and you all 224 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 6: ought to hire them. If you're not hiring Liberty students, 225 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 6: you're missing out as they are world class. 226 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 7: Amen. 227 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Dave Bratt, Senior Vice President at 228 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: Liberty University. 229 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 7: Thank you for joining us. 230 00:13:26,840 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 6: Thanks Ryan, great show. 231 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 5: For more encouragement and to stay connected, follow doctor Tim 232 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 5: Clinton on Facebook, Instagram, and X. We love being a 233 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: part of your life. 234 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: Joining us now is Amy Robbins. Amy is the spokesperson 235 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: of Parlor, a social media platform built to champion free 236 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: speech and privacy. She's also host of The Amy Robbins Show. Amy, 237 00:13:58,280 --> 00:13:59,600 Speaker 1: thank you for joining us. 238 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 9: Ran, It's always a wonderful time being with you, so 239 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 9: thank you so much for having me. 240 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: I appreciate so much, Amy, your courage and conviction when 241 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: it comes to responsible gun ownership. I think about the 242 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: importance of two A, the Second Amendment, the importance of 243 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: advocacy in this area, especially among women and mothers. You're 244 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: a mother, and there's a lot that's happening in this nation. 245 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: The House Judiciary Committee just passed recently the Concealed Carry Act, 246 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: and it's it's moving on from there. Talk a little 247 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: bit about why this is so important. There's a lot 248 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,280 Speaker 1: of folks in the country that I know are responsible 249 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 1: gun owners and certainly don't want to see those rights 250 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: infringed upon. But certainly we want to see more people 251 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: who are informed in this area and will also take 252 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: it upon themselves to be trained in firearms and to 253 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: get their CCL license. 254 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 10: Yeah. 255 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 9: Absolutely, I mean, like I always say, I'm a big 256 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 9: proponent for people exercising their second Amendment because you know this, 257 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 9: at the end of the day. 258 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 10: If we don't use our rights, we lose our rights. 259 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 9: And this is one of those issues that if people 260 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 9: aren't paying attention, politicians are constantly trying to thwart our 261 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 9: Second Amendment and they're trying to get it just completely 262 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 9: a raise. They're trying to infringe upon our rights at 263 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 9: every turn. We're seeing it every day with the so 264 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 9: called bands for AR fifteen's taxing and limiting AMMO purchases 265 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 9: short barrow rifle. 266 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 10: I mean, they did reverse that, but you know, they're always. 267 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 9: Trying to sneak in some sort of gun legislation that 268 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 9: does infringe upon the rights of law abiding citizens. But 269 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 9: I do want to go back really quick to this 270 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 9: exciting announcement that the National Reciprocy has passed the Judicial Committee. 271 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 9: And it's kind of unfortunate that we have to get 272 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 9: excited about something like this because at the end of 273 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 9: the day, constitutional carry is our constitutional right. But we 274 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 9: are taking a step in the right direction. So what 275 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 9: is happening right now. It does still have to get 276 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 9: it's got to go through the House, it's got to 277 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:15,520 Speaker 9: get voted. 278 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 10: On there, hopefully with the majority. 279 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 9: If there's any Republican congressmen that are listening to this, 280 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 9: I strongly encourage you to vote for this act. 281 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 10: Get it on President Trump's desk. 282 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 9: Let's get this thing passed, and that's going to be 283 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 9: the first step in the right direction. So what this 284 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 9: actually means is that it opens it up for reciprocity 285 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 9: across all of the states to recognize another state's carry license. 286 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 9: What this does not mean, and I want people to 287 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 9: be very clear about what this does and does not mean. 288 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 9: Right if your state only has constitutional carry, meaning you 289 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 9: can carry a firearm concealed or not concealed without a license, 290 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 9: that in particular is not going to be recognized in 291 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 9: another state that does require license to carry. So let's 292 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 9: take Texas for instance. Texas recently became a constitutional carry state, 293 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 9: but we also give the ability to obtain a license 294 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 9: to carry. So I've always encouraged people, even though it's 295 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 9: constitutional right to carry, now go and get that license 296 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,600 Speaker 9: to carry, because that's where you're going to learn about proficiency. 297 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 9: You're going to learn about the law of carrying and 298 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,760 Speaker 9: the law of self defense. 299 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 10: And then it also. 300 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 9: Gives you the ability to carry your firearm with you 301 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 9: across the country as you're traveling. So, like I said, 302 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 9: this is a great step in the right direction, but 303 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 9: I still find it very frustrating that we are still 304 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 9: trying to overcome barriers that are continuing to infringe upon 305 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 9: law abiding citizens' rights. 306 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting there is a philosophy here. You're 307 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: seeing how there's a shift in the United States because 308 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:50,680 Speaker 1: you know, the younger and younger people are and they're 309 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 1: kind of separated from American history and the understanding of 310 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: the founding of this country. 311 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 7: They have a. 312 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: Different understanding or philosophy or ideaology when it comes to 313 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: governance and law and order. They really do believe, as 314 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: other Western nations do, that gun ownership is only something 315 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: that should be reserved for law enforcement. You know, those 316 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: who wear the blue in our community that you know, uh, 317 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: they think about you think about the armed services. But 318 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: but American citizens should not own guns. And I just 319 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: want to point to the fact that in the United 320 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: Kingdom and other Western nations there's all kinds of lawlessness, 321 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 1: violent crime that's committed not by gun owners, but by 322 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: those like who have knives and swords, and and they're 323 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: even trying to legislate that in France and Germany and 324 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: also in the UK. Why is it so important that 325 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: we understand this history, especially when it comes to trying 326 00:18:54,600 --> 00:19:00,200 Speaker 1: to legislate things like the responsible ownership of a firearm. 327 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 9: Where you're never going to be able to legislate evil 328 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 9: in man's heart. I always say that people that have 329 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 9: evil intentions will find a way to carry that out, 330 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 9: And you're absolutely right. If they don't have a firearm, 331 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 9: they can use a knife. If they don't have a knife, 332 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 9: they have beat fists, hands, blunt force objects. They even 333 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 9: have cars to go and ram into large crowds of 334 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 9: people to cause mass chaos. So the first question that 335 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 9: you were referring to those is like, why is special 336 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 9: Why is it important for people to have an understanding 337 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 9: of the Second Amendment? Well, if you don't look at 338 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 9: history and you don't understand why our founding fathers put 339 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 9: it in there in the first place. It really wasn't 340 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 9: just about self defense in the home. It wasn't necessarily 341 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 9: solely about me as a mom having a firearm to 342 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 9: protect my children if a bad guy were to try 343 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 9: to do something harmful to them or to my life. 344 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 9: It was foundationally put in there to protect the American 345 00:19:48,359 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 9: citizens from a tyrannical government, and all you have to 346 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 9: do is look back at history in other countries that 347 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 9: disarmed their societies. Take Nazi Germany for instance, that disarmed 348 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 9: an entire society prior to taking it over and then 349 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 9: doing horrific acts to the Jews. And we're not far away. 350 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 9: I know people think, are your government's really never going 351 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 9: to do that? But if the government didn't have plans 352 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 9: to have ultimate control and ultimate authority, they wouldn't be 353 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 9: trying so hard to disarm us, and they wouldn't be 354 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 9: using ridiculous, untrue facts like telling people that firearm related 355 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,080 Speaker 9: deaths are the number one cause of death for children. 356 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,920 Speaker 9: What people don't understand about that study that was recently 357 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 9: put out was that it actually included eighteen to nineteen 358 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 9: year olds as well. I don't know any other studies 359 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 9: when you're talking about death rate that includes eighteen to 360 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 9: nineteen year olds and their studies. So if you remove that, 361 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 9: and then you also remove death by suicide with the firearm, 362 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 9: you're actually looking at firearms not even getting into the 363 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 9: top ten in death rates. So if they were being 364 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:53,600 Speaker 9: honest about wanting to reduce gun violence, then are actually 365 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 9: violence in general, then they should say, you know, drownings 366 00:20:56,680 --> 00:20:58,959 Speaker 9: make that list, and why aren't we banning swimming pools 367 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 9: because drowning actually kill more children a year than firearms do. 368 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 9: And so to me, it's just a very dishonest way 369 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,879 Speaker 9: of trying to emotionally like play on people's emotions so 370 00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 9: that they when they do introduce gun legislation, gun control legislation, 371 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 9: that they're able to get the support they think they 372 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 9: need from the American people that don't truly understand why 373 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:19,840 Speaker 9: the Second Amendment was there in the first place. 374 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:23,879 Speaker 1: I just want to in the final note here, and 375 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 1: I want to approach this from a biblical worldview as 376 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:32,119 Speaker 1: Christian thinking men, thinking women, understanding a responsibility and a 377 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 1: duty that we have before God to protect and defend 378 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 1: the innocent, and that starts in our own home. That 379 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: starts in our home, and then it extends to the 380 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: community as well. We recognize that the brave men and 381 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,720 Speaker 1: women who are in law enforcement, who wear the blue uniforms, 382 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:54,120 Speaker 1: who are working in our communities, they alone cannot be 383 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: responsible for responding to every crisis or in time, and 384 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 1: many times we hear or reach national stories that could 385 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: have been worse, but they were stopped or prevented. Praise 386 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,640 Speaker 1: be to God are responsible men and women who took 387 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:14,399 Speaker 1: gun ownership seriously just as a Christian woman. How do 388 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:15,719 Speaker 1: you look at this biblically? 389 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 9: Well, I mean, I just look at my own personal experience. 390 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 9: I was followed and harassed by a van of seven 391 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 9: men out in the middle of nowhere when I was 392 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 9: out on a run. And it doesn't matter how quickly 393 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 9: I would be able to call nine to one one 394 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 9: the fact that the bad guys were already there. I mean, 395 00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 9: they were harassing me, they were following me. If it 396 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 9: escalated beyond that, it wouldn't have mattered if I called 397 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 9: the cops. The bad guys were there and they had 398 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 9: plenty of time to do something to me. So that 399 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 9: was really my first AHA moment that I knew that 400 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 9: I had a responsibility to be my first line of defense. 401 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 9: And when it comes to protecting innocent life, whether that's 402 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 9: my own or whether that's my children, or whether that's 403 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 9: somebody else, I have a responsibility to do that. It's 404 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,920 Speaker 9: a God given responsibility. It's why I'm sostaunchly pro life, 405 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 9: because I do believe not protecting innocent life It really 406 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 9: to me goes hand in hand, and so you know, 407 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 9: I've never I've never had an issue with it with 408 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,679 Speaker 9: my Christian beliefs and with my Christian faith. I've always 409 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 9: looked at it just as a personal responsibility from God 410 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 9: to protect innocent life. 411 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, very very well said. I don't think anybody could 412 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,920 Speaker 1: have said that better. Amy Robbins, Thank you so much, 413 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: spokesperson for Parlor. Really appreciate that platform. 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Virgil is the co 439 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: host of the Just Thinking podcast and he currently serves 440 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 1: as Vice president of Ministry Relations at G three Ministries, 441 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 1: and his most recent book is out now, a Biblical 442 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:46,359 Speaker 1: Theology on Climate Change. Virgil, Welcome to Sunday the Road Forward. 443 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: Great to see you. 444 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 12: Man, Always a pleasure to be with you. I'm excited 445 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 12: to be here. 446 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: Well, real quick, just for folks who are listening now 447 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: and may not know about this book, This is not 448 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 1: why I had you on, but I do really quick. 449 00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: I just want to talk about climate change. So you're 450 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: saying that the Bible has something to say about this, 451 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,479 Speaker 1: I want to hit the highlight on that real fast. 452 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 12: Yeah, absolutely, just quickly. You know, I think many people 453 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 12: would wonder what the Bible does have to say about 454 00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 12: climate change. I posit that the Bible speaks about every 455 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 12: issue that's out there, any issue that we come across, 456 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 12: there's something that Scripture has to say about it, particularly 457 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 12: as it pertains to climate. Because God has orchestrated the universe. 458 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 12: God is the one who created the world in which 459 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 12: we live. He's sovereign over everything, even the climate, and 460 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:37,679 Speaker 12: as a result, he has a lot to say in 461 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 12: his word about his sovereignty in this area. So I 462 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 12: think I appeal to that in scripture. I want people 463 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 12: to know the issues so that they're not operating on 464 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 12: the basis of fear, which a lot of climate climatologists 465 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 12: and climate alarmists would love for us to be afraid, 466 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 12: so that they can dictate what we should do I'm 467 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 12: wanting to take that lever away from them, point people 468 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 12: to the word of God and help them find comfort 469 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 12: and rest in the pages of Scripture with God's sovereignty, 470 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 12: and just. 471 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: To hint a little bit at what they might find 472 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: out in this book. You are not a climate doomerism, correct, No, Okay, 473 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: that's that's great. 474 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 12: Absolutely opposed to that. We're wanting to let people know 475 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 12: God is sovereignly in control of the climate they can 476 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 12: arrest in that. 477 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 7: Fantastic. I couldn't agree more. 478 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 1: You have a recent article at Standing for Freedom dot 479 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:32,000 Speaker 1: com on the judicial interference that's taking place currently right 480 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:37,399 Speaker 1: now in the nation judges opposing this president, President Donald 481 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: Trump forty seven. 482 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,880 Speaker 7: He was duly elected. 483 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:45,040 Speaker 1: Article two of the Constitution gives enumerated powers to each 484 00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:49,000 Speaker 1: branch government. He's the executive branch, and he gets to 485 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: make a lot of key decisions when it comes to 486 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: immigration and border policy. Every president up till this one 487 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,359 Speaker 1: has been able to do so, including Donald Trump forty five. 488 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: But right now we have a lot of judges who 489 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: believe differently, not only about that, but I think also 490 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: about constitutional order and the rule of law. Talk a 491 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: little bit about this article, and really just the current events. 492 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,640 Speaker 1: More importantly, why is this so important that people get 493 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,919 Speaker 1: a hold of and understand the concept? And then why, 494 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: I think, why is this so dangerous to the American Republic? 495 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,159 Speaker 12: Yeah, it is. I think when people think about the 496 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,600 Speaker 12: or hear about the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety 497 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,160 Speaker 12: eight and the use of it as the justification for 498 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 12: the presidential powers, your eyes glaze over. You know, anything 499 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 12: anything older than twenty twenty four or twenty twenty five. 500 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 12: We have a tendency to think that that's really ancient history, 501 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 12: and it's important for us to note that this act 502 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 12: was in place to give the president the powers that 503 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,520 Speaker 12: he's currently using in a legal, constitutional sense to protect 504 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,880 Speaker 12: our country against foreign invasion. What activist judges are doing 505 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 12: is they're saying that the invasion has to be centered 506 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 12: around a military action, and the Act itself doesn't state 507 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 12: that it actually gives the president broad powers to conduct 508 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 12: the kind of the kind of actions that he's taking 509 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 12: against illegal immigration that's in our country. When we think 510 00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 12: about the numbers go anywhere from from ten million to 511 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 12: twenty million to more who have invaded our country. The 512 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,240 Speaker 12: president wants to do something about it. And what's interesting 513 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 12: about this Ryan is that he's doing it not in 514 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 12: a broad sense. He's really targeting some of the most 515 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:46,479 Speaker 12: dangerous criminals that are out there, whether it's the trendy 516 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 12: Aragua group, whether it's you know MS eighteen, and you know, 517 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 12: all these different groups are that are coming in invading 518 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 12: our areas, our spaces, Venezuelan gangs who are doing all 519 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 12: kinds of things here in Georgia. You know, we had 520 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 12: Lincoln Riley who was murdered. I mean, he's trying to 521 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 12: stop that from happening. And activist judges are so blinded 522 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 12: by their hatred for Trump, they're willing to put American 523 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 12: citizens at high risk bye bye by stopping Trump from 524 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 12: doing exactly what these what the Alien Enemies Act Act 525 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 12: allows him to do. 526 00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's it's incredible, incredulous and inexplicable when you 527 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 1: think about the current climate, when you think about the 528 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 1: risks to national security, when you think about the innocent women, children, 529 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: you name it that can. 530 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 7: Be harmed by these policies. 531 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 12: Yeah, trafficking that's happening as well as a result insane 532 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 12: for those who are coming. 533 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: Over human trafficking fentanyl. You also think about and I 534 00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: just want to point out just practical implications of cross 535 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 1: cultural You know, people from Haiti and Venezuela and other 536 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: parts where it is a very different kind of culture. 537 00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: Bring them in the United States. There was accusations last 538 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 1: summer about ducks and parks getting eaten, disappearing, right, that 539 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: kind of thing, And that actually turned out that some 540 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: people were saying that's highly suspect. Fact checkers were saying, no, 541 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: that's not true, and others were saying, no, it's very true. 542 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: This is actually happening. You can't just take people and 543 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: transplant them in the United States and expect that culture 544 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: and custom and just the normal rhythms and routines of life. 545 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: These are they're going to just be able to acclimate 546 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,040 Speaker 1: to this kind of environment. Everybody's made in the image 547 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,880 Speaker 1: of God. We fully established that as Christians, but it 548 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:52,200 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that we're all going to live together in 549 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: peaceful harmony. 550 00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 7: So there's some wisdom principles here. 551 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: Absolutely. 552 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,960 Speaker 12: The first of those wisdom principles is that if we 553 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 12: don't have borders, we don't have a country, and country 554 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 12: and culture. All those kinds of things are important and 555 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 12: they have meaning. Acts chapter seventeen, verse twenty six tells 556 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 12: us that God has established the boundaries in which men dwell, 557 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 12: and there's a reason for that if we erase those 558 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 12: all together and give everyone access. Again, to the point 559 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 12: I was making earlier, we no longer have a country 560 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 12: and people have got to begin thinking about this, specifically believers. 561 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 12: One of the reasons why Ryan I wrote the article 562 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,080 Speaker 12: was because what I'm noticing, and we talked about just 563 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 12: briefly before we jumped on, is that within evangelicalism there's 564 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 12: a lot of confusion about this particular issue. On the left, 565 00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 12: so to speak, maybe those who are evangelical but a 566 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 12: little bit more and I wouldn't call them leftists. I 567 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 12: would just say that they're compassionate in their Christianity. We 568 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 12: can call it compassionate Christianity, the idea that everyone should 569 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 12: come in and be taken care of and supported by 570 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,479 Speaker 12: taxpayer dollars or by the government giving churches money so 571 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:06,840 Speaker 12: that they can support them where that's not a biblical 572 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 12: model at all. 573 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 7: We could talk about that, sure. 574 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 12: But but on the left, on the left side, we've 575 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 12: got those compassionate conservatives who aren't thinking about borders, who 576 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,320 Speaker 12: aren't thinking about culture who are just simply uh, operating 577 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 12: on the basis of their feeling and emotion and and 578 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,960 Speaker 12: and even even to even to the right. Sometimes we 579 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 12: we have such a high brow about about our about 580 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 12: theology that we don't think about the practical, practical applications 581 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 12: and implications of what it means uh to that that 582 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 12: God absolutely is sovereign, and that he has dictated that 583 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 12: government has the authority by which to execute uh the 584 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 12: function of safety and protection and the mitigation of evil. 585 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 4: Uh. 586 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,640 Speaker 12: And so when we see it with these gangs, uh, 587 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 12: the president is doing exactly what he should be doing 588 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 12: constitutionally and biblically in protecting it citizenry against evil and harm. 589 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: Virgil Walker, thank you so much for joining us Sunday 590 00:33:59,000 --> 00:33:59,719 Speaker 1: the Road Forward. 591 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 12: Thanks so much for having me Ryan. 592 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 8: Do people ever come to you asking for help? 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Matt, 623 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,320 Speaker 1: thank you for joining Sunday The Road Forward. 624 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,080 Speaker 7: Great to see you. 625 00:35:58,719 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 2: Thank you so much for having me. 626 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:00,720 Speaker 5: Matt. 627 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of concern in the United States among 628 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: American citizens and certainly those who are tuned to the 629 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 1: various challenges of arising China. China has been very menacing, 630 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: and we're talking specifically about the Communist Party in China. 631 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: There are billion Chinese people, many of them are good people, 632 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: but the Chinese Communist Party is running like a cartel worldwide, 633 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,279 Speaker 1: and certainly in the United States. They have so much 634 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:35,359 Speaker 1: influence broadly in American institutions. You think about colleges and universities, hospitals. 635 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,960 Speaker 1: During COVID, we were awakened to some of the alarm 636 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: of how much they were influencing our health policy. But 637 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:48,640 Speaker 1: then also you know the secret police stations that we 638 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: hear about in the United States. And then certainly when 639 00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:56,600 Speaker 1: it comes to journalism and the media. You wrote an 640 00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: article recently at blaze dot com talking about China's influence 641 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: at the New York Times, tell us a little bit 642 00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: about what's going on, and you know, the concern really 643 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,320 Speaker 1: about the Chinese Communist Party having such a great influence 644 00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:20,240 Speaker 1: on one of the oldest newspapers in our country. 645 00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:23,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, there is so much to go in there, 646 00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:25,080 Speaker 2: and we'll you know, start with that. You know, I've 647 00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:29,840 Speaker 2: started researching recently in conjunction with Shan Yu and the Actually, 648 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,680 Speaker 2: if you've been outside, you've probably seen one of their advertisements. 649 00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 2: They are a company that specializes in dance and they 650 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:39,920 Speaker 2: try to promote traditional Chinese culture from the five thousand 651 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 2: years leading up to the Communist Revolution. But the New 652 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,760 Speaker 2: York Times, since August of last year, they've had one reporter, 653 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:52,040 Speaker 2: Nicole Hung, and she has devoted more than sixty percent 654 00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 2: of all her reports to attacking Shan Yun. And the 655 00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 2: question I had was, well, why it's a little of 656 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 2: a weird obsession to have. And it turns out she 657 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 2: has a lot of family ties to the CCP, namely 658 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 2: through her father, who has worked with a number of 659 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 2: CCP backed university isn't actually backed. Isn't even the right 660 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: way to put it. University is run by the CCP 661 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: sort of like a visitor, a visiting Scholars organization that 662 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:21,839 Speaker 2: Jijuin Ping himself has praised. And you know, listen, I 663 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:25,200 Speaker 2: get that your parents are not always are your politics 664 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 2: rather are not always your parents. But believe it or not, 665 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 2: there has been studies done on this something like ninety 666 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: percent of the time there are, so I would say 667 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 2: there's a conflict of interest there, and it's not at 668 00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 2: all out of character for The New York Times. I 669 00:38:40,719 --> 00:38:43,800 Speaker 2: refer to a different article as all the fake news 670 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 2: that's fit to print, because it's either fake news to 671 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: support the left wing in America or it's lies by omission. 672 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 2: It's what they're not reporting. And they did this laughable 673 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:59,560 Speaker 2: series just a couple of years ago on trying to 674 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 2: shine a light on well, what are the good aspects 675 00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: of communism that people aren't remembering? And one of the articles, 676 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,240 Speaker 2: and I'm not kidding, was arguing that people had better 677 00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 2: sex lives under communism than they do today, and it 678 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 2: was all anecdotal evidence. And what they basically all had 679 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,319 Speaker 2: in common was the people saying this were twenty years 680 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,400 Speaker 2: old when they were living under communism, and they're not 681 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,160 Speaker 2: in their twenties anymore. So it was like people saying 682 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 2: their lives are better when they were young versus old. 683 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,279 Speaker 2: It was like laughable logic like this, but we have 684 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,200 Speaker 2: to remember it too. I mean, this is a publication 685 00:39:33,600 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 2: that made people like Hitler the man of the year. 686 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,960 Speaker 2: So they're not you know, people who have always had 687 00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 2: the best judgment. 688 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 7: Right, Yeah. 689 00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, that is a long, long history of that for sure, 690 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,520 Speaker 1: And I absolutely agree. It seems as though you go 691 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: back to the nineteen thirties and forties and they were 692 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: undermining our civic institutions. Even going back then, a lot 693 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 1: of these institutions, Matt have been not only influenced, but hijacked. 694 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: It seems like there certainly has always been influence in 695 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:02,440 Speaker 1: American politics and in American culture. You go back to 696 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,440 Speaker 1: back when the you know, the Soviet Union was at 697 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,799 Speaker 1: the height of its power, certainly had spires operating in the. 698 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 7: United States, and you even had those sort of. 699 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: Suspects who were like the court gestures, uh, you know, 700 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: that were being utilized by the USSR, you know, useful 701 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:28,160 Speaker 1: idiots as they were referred to, that were promoting communist sentiment. 702 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: But they weren't even on the payroll. They were just 703 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: willing to sort of advance their narrative in their message. 704 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:38,360 Speaker 1: There are people in Hollywood I think about even the 705 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: NBA and other you know organizations are trying to penetrate 706 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: into China. China is willing to receive them into their 707 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: markets so long as they don't say anything bad about China. 708 00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: In fact, they need to carry the Chinese message all 709 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:56,040 Speaker 1: across the world. Why why is it so important? I 710 00:40:56,040 --> 00:41:00,840 Speaker 1: think that Americans wake up to to what's really happening. 711 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: And certainly there are a lot of conservatives that are 712 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: concerned about this. But then you know, we share this 713 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: country with liberals who disagree with us, but we're one 714 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: hundred percent American and liberals need to be one hundred 715 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:14,720 Speaker 1: percent American as well. 716 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 7: Why we need to push. 717 00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:22,680 Speaker 1: China out and I mean their influence out of the West. 718 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,359 Speaker 2: Well, they must be having a massive influence on our 719 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 2: politics and even what we believe because I think COVID 720 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: was really the biggest test and that you know, if 721 00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,320 Speaker 2: you look at I think there's internal documents out of 722 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,719 Speaker 2: the UK now that they knew by what was it, 723 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 2: March of twenty twenty that this thing came from a 724 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 2: lab in China. Yeah, there's internal the Fauci emails, like 725 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 2: it's all where they know the truth, but they're worried 726 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 2: the truth will somehow jeopardize let's just say, a scientific 727 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:52,280 Speaker 2: relationship with China or our supply chain relationship with China. 728 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 2: We're so intertwined economically, and that's again, you know, one 729 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 2: of the problems with globalism is you know, it might 730 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 2: make sense on an economic basis, but then when there's 731 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 2: this kind of conflict, you're kind of totally screwed. And 732 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 2: that you know, if all of you know, some life 733 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 2: saving medicine is tied up in China, well we kind 734 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 2: of have to do what they say. And we are 735 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: seeing this too with celebrities where I mean I've seen 736 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 2: some celebrities learning Chinese to kind of count out to 737 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 2: these people, which is I mean, I guess good for them, 738 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,719 Speaker 2: but it's embarrassing the lengths that will go. And uh, 739 00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:28,760 Speaker 2: you know, if they were able to stop that narrative 740 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,680 Speaker 2: with COVID from spreading or going mainstream for I feel 741 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:33,440 Speaker 2: like it was at least one to two years. I mean, 742 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,279 Speaker 2: it wasn't until COVID wasn't really that big of a 743 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 2: deal anymore that it was okay to talk about what 744 00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 2: are the other narratives? And I would say, it's it's 745 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,760 Speaker 2: gonna be way more than we could possibly imagine. And 746 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: I think the last is far more susceptible to this 747 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 2: kind of thinking than we are. 748 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,640 Speaker 7: Yeah, one hundred percent agree. 749 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: It's it's fascinating to watch, and it certainly we've got 750 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,240 Speaker 1: to be with a marshal. I think in many ways 751 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 1: our result against China's influence in American politics. What's interesting 752 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,960 Speaker 1: is just a couple of years ago, you wrote a 753 00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,600 Speaker 1: book on George Soros, and you're writing one now on 754 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: Alex Soros. A couple of years ago, headlines were that 755 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:18,839 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party was at war with open societies. That 756 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,040 Speaker 1: was kind of interesting to watch two enemies fight. It's 757 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,560 Speaker 1: kind of like the socialist fighting or the Communist fighting 758 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: the fascists. Right, So what tell us you know a 759 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: little bit about your work on understanding sort of the 760 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: Soros dynasty, if you will. You know, US aid, as 761 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: soon as we went in and we were able to 762 00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:44,080 Speaker 1: check the books, we recognized that not only was it 763 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 1: Soros money, but it was also US tax dollars that 764 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:52,080 Speaker 1: were funneled into these open societies projects that were undermining 765 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 1: our very nation. What's going on there? This passing of 766 00:43:57,560 --> 00:43:59,880 Speaker 1: the baton between George and Alex. 767 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:01,000 Speaker 12: Well. 768 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 2: The announcement was made in mid twenty twenty three, but 769 00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: there were signs that he was sort of running the 770 00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:10,759 Speaker 2: show to some extent already before then. So and we 771 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 2: actually didn't learn this until an interview Alex did earlier 772 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: this year, but he indicated that it was in twenty 773 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,080 Speaker 2: fifteen that George was sort of getting too old to 774 00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,720 Speaker 2: keep traveling to Europe and was going to be passing 775 00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,799 Speaker 2: off the baton in his European influenced to Alex. So 776 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 2: Alex has been running the show there and he knows 777 00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: a lot of politicians of the air. In fact, there's 778 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:36,560 Speaker 2: after the Color Revolution in North Macedonia which was then Macedonia, 779 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:42,280 Speaker 2: which was funded by the OSF and USAID, Alex posted 780 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:46,120 Speaker 2: a photo with him his father and then the new 781 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,920 Speaker 2: Prime Minister of North Macedonia and captioned it, it's my 782 00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 2: pleasure to introduce my father to the new prime minister, 783 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 2: you know, the wording being it wasn't his father behind 784 00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,920 Speaker 2: this all, it was him. And when it comes to 785 00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:03,240 Speaker 2: the Democracy Pack which is funding all these rogue DA's 786 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,880 Speaker 2: we read about that are not enforcing the law that 787 00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: was twenty twenty two, so that was again a year 788 00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,880 Speaker 2: and a half before the official you know, passing a 789 00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,040 Speaker 2: little about Baton, and I do a whole chapter in 790 00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 2: the book that I'm almost done with. I've said that 791 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 2: for the past month. It's always one more thing, you know, 792 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,440 Speaker 2: but I do a whole chapter just listing them all. 793 00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,359 Speaker 2: And the one that I think will probably be more 794 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,600 Speaker 2: headline getting when it comes out is there is a 795 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:34,520 Speaker 2: woman in Texas named Kim Ogg that George Soros funded. 796 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,880 Speaker 2: She initially was kind of on board, but then crime 797 00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,720 Speaker 2: went up and she reversed a lot of the George 798 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,319 Speaker 2: Soros policies, which is so she's the only one to 799 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 2: ever do that. So she runs again for re election 800 00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 2: without Soros funding. Alex Soros funded a primary challenger to 801 00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:55,640 Speaker 2: the previously George Soros funded woman. Yeah, so what we 802 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:57,920 Speaker 2: have the question of who's you know, who's more radical. 803 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 2: It's clearly Alex, and he's trying to pretend otherwise, but 804 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 2: the whole book is proving if he is more centrist. 805 00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 2: It's maybe rhetorically but not in practice. 806 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:11,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, the twenty twenty four election cycle did reveal that 807 00:46:11,719 --> 00:46:15,560 Speaker 1: it's clear that Alex has taken the throne. Seeing that picture, 808 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: that photo up in the high rise apartment in New 809 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,840 Speaker 1: York City just outside of Central Park, where Tim Walls 810 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,480 Speaker 1: is there to sort of kiss the ring, so to speak, 811 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:27,560 Speaker 1: and the various leadership of the Democratic Party, it looks 812 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,600 Speaker 1: as though Alex is in command of that organization. 813 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,800 Speaker 7: Certainly something to watch, Matt. 814 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,000 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us, Matt Palumbo, and 815 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,759 Speaker 1: we look forward to the more the upcoming installment of 816 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 1: your new book. 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