1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: There has been dancing in the streets outside my house. 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Yes, the celebrations have begun. Everybody is super happy. We 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: live right outside of DC and the streets have been 4 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,799 Speaker 2: flood dead. 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the streets are definitely talking. It just feels like 6 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: everybody sent around a memo and said, this is what 7 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: you do when the election results are in. 8 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: How did everybody know to go outside with pots and pans? 9 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 2: That was my thing? I was like, wait, I didn't 10 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: know that. I didn't know that that was part of 11 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 2: the celebration. 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 1: Right. 13 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 3: All I got is like a mini cow bell. 14 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: Girl, Why do you have that? 15 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: Gotta have more cow bell. 16 00:00:34,760 --> 00:00:37,839 Speaker 2: I'm TT and I'm Zachiah and from Spotify. This is 17 00:00:37,920 --> 00:01:06,319 Speaker 2: Dope Labs. It's official. Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are 18 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:11,639 Speaker 2: our new president and vice president elect. And everybody, well 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 2: maybe not, everybody is super excited. And as soon as 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 2: the news broke this past Saturday, everybody just hit the streets. 21 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,400 Speaker 2: And when you have the excitement of the election results 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: coupled with the upcoming holiday season, it made us really 23 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,759 Speaker 2: curious about why we as humans celebrate things. 24 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: I think everybody went outside and made some noise, but 25 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,039 Speaker 1: that doesn't really align with my method of celebrating. When 26 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: I celebrate, the first thing I look for is champagne. 27 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: And for me, it's usually a meat lover's pizza, which 28 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 2: is what I did to celebrate. 29 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 3: That was the first thing on my mind. I was like, 30 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: I'm very happy. 31 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: My friend loves a meat lover's pizza, y'all. 32 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: I do, I really do. 33 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: Is really interesting, this whole culture around celebration, and it 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 1: couldn't come at a better time because we're right on 35 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: the cusp. We're just following Spooky Season, and no matter 36 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: what Mariah Carey tells you, the first jump from Spooky 37 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: Season is not directly to Christmas. 38 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 3: Folks in my neighborhood already have up there Christmas lights. 39 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, when are we supposed to put up our 40 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: wreaths and our cornucopia displays. I wanted to give me 41 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 1: a little eucalyptus wreath or something. 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's still time. There's definitely still time. 43 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 2: But the issue is is that we are still in 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 2: a pandemic. Don't forget. The pandemic isn't over just because 45 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 2: you're over it, and a lot of people are not 46 00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 2: going to be doing the kind of traveling that they 47 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: were doing in previous years, So a lot of people 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 2: are opting for friends giving. My friend Zakia also had 49 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 2: a very good idea about having friends giving at her 50 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: place with a very select few group of people, and 51 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 2: then everybody else can just zoom in or instagram live in. 52 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: That's the only way I'm going to feel okay smoking 53 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: the turkey, you know what I mean. I don't want 54 00:02:59,919 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: to be out there thinking about both inhaling smoke particles 55 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: and viral particles too. Like I just it's going to 56 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: be too much, but that will give me a little 57 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 1: bit of the best of both worlds. Friends Given has 58 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: been an amazing I know we didn't create it, but 59 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: it feels like it was made just for us. 60 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 3: I know, because we love celebrating. 61 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 2: We like celebrating everything from big things to small things. Yes, 62 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: in this episode we are talking all about celebration and 63 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 2: the sociology behind it. 64 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: I think it's important to really acknowledge celebrations exist across cultures. 65 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: They may look different, but almost every culture has some 66 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 1: type of celebratory time or season or event, and there 67 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: are some cultural universals, so behaviors that or values that 68 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 1: show up in different cultures. They might not necessarily be 69 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: the same, but we see them all the time. So 70 00:03:55,160 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: dancing or food, or rituals or different religious practices are 71 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: cultural universals, and they're all often elements of various types 72 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: of celebrations. So it can feel like celebration itself is 73 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 1: a hallmark of human behavior. So with that being said, 74 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 1: let's jump into the recitation. What do we know? 75 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 3: TT? 76 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 2: Well, we know right now there are a lot of 77 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 2: people that are celebrating, including us, Yes. 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: And we also know there seems to be this gravitational 79 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: pool to celebration, being outside, loud and with snacks and drinks. Yes, 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,919 Speaker 1: we need libations. And I think, you know, I just 81 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: want to understand what's driving us to celebrate. I think 82 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: I want to know why. 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 2: It's food always something that folks want to bring out 84 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 2: when it's time to celebrate. Is that something that's just like, 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 2: is it a cultural thing? Is it all cultures and 86 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: even beyond just us celebrating? This feels like some spontaneous 87 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: celebration in the fall. There's that season of celebration right 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: after spooky season where if people celebrate Thanksgiving around that time, 89 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 2: heading into all of the winter holidays, I feel like 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 2: I can almost smell it in the. 91 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 3: Air, you know. 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 1: But if I didn't grow up celebrating these holidays, would 93 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:19,120 Speaker 1: I still feel that same way? 94 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 3: Right? 95 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it's a part of our subconscious mind to feel 96 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 2: like we're supposed to be celebrating right now. And then 97 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 2: I want to know friendsgiving is a new thing, but 98 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 2: I don't. 99 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 3: Know whose idea. 100 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was, it's a genius idea, but I want 101 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 2: to know whose idea it was and when it got started. 102 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: I think friendsgiving is the perfect example as we start 103 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: to think about celebration on a whole right because you 104 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: don't have to believe any one certain thing to participate 105 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 1: in friendsgiving. It also feels like it's a little more 106 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 1: low stakes than some of the other holidays, so you 107 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: don't have to jump in and sprinkle cinnamon all over 108 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: your house if you want to participate in friendsgiving either. 109 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 2: Friendsgiving feels more like a come as you are, rather 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 2: than you got to get dressed up with your auntie 111 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 2: and uncle and answer all their annoying questions. 112 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: I don't want to wear a sequin top. So I 113 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: think we're ready to move into the dissection and understand 114 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: more about celebration so this dissection is a little bit different. 115 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 1: The guest expert today, Well, it's us welcome. I think 116 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: we're professional celebrators, and I think it's a great time 117 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,479 Speaker 1: for us to just hold that mirror up and explore 118 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,280 Speaker 1: some of our own behavior around holidays. 119 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: We're talking all about celebrations, and I think a great 120 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 2: place to start would be talking about a celebration kind 121 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,039 Speaker 2: of like Friendsgiving, where it is a new form of 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,360 Speaker 2: celebration and I think a lot of people are starting 123 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: to do it. 124 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 1: So let's start with the history of Friendsgiving. It's basically 125 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: a spin on Thanksgiving. And when we look back at 126 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is basically a big feast. And so your want 127 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: for a meat lover's pizza, my want for mimosa. That's 128 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:01,799 Speaker 1: gathering around food, and that's not new. Almost all cultures 129 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: are considered kind of cultures of celebration, and Thanksgiving was 130 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: centered on the fall harvest, similar to how we talked 131 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: about cuffing season and having babies with the spring harvest. 132 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of this cyclical or seasonal celebration. 133 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 3: M okay. 134 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: And so it's best to have a feast, which is 135 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 1: like a large meal, and it's usually outrageous amounts of 136 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: food compared to what you would normally have day to day. 137 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:25,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be pretty hard to do that if you 138 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 1: don't have a season of harvest, if you don't have 139 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. 140 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: To choose from. 141 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 2: And you know what I like is that when you 142 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: look up the definition of feast, it's a verb and 143 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: it means to eat and drink sumptuously. 144 00:07:36,040 --> 00:07:40,360 Speaker 3: I like that word sumptuously. I'm start using that. 145 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,480 Speaker 1: So when we start to think about friends giving, this 146 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: is kind of new. Like you said, it's been on 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: the rise. If you look at Google trends and they 148 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: show you know, that little graph of how often different 149 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:52,920 Speaker 1: terms are searched, it doesn't make its first kind of 150 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: big blip until like twenty ten, and then you just 151 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: see every year around November it just peaks up. And 152 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: so it's been a arise since like the twenty ten 153 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: If you think about two thousand and seven to twenty ten, 154 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: the economy trying to make a comeback. Millennials were one 155 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: of the first generations to move really far away from home. 156 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: So can you even afford to get back home? 157 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: So I remember being an undergrad and before we would 158 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: go home for Thanksgiving break. Me and my friends one 159 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 2: year got together and had like a little Thanksgiving because 160 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: we were like, oh, you know, we're thankful for each other, 161 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,480 Speaker 2: we should all get together and do something. So I 162 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,040 Speaker 2: think it also was something where folks wanted to celebrate 163 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 2: Thanksgiving with their friends before having to go home and 164 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: celebrate with their families. 165 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: And that makes me think also there's something that we 166 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: kind of borrow from LGBTQ culture, which is your chosen family. Yeah, 167 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: these people you choose and who have chosen you in return. 168 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 1: So even if you don't have great relationships with your 169 00:08:50,200 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: blood relatives, right, you have this family who you are 170 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: super grateful for and you want to celebrate with them, 171 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: so you create this occasion to do that. I love 172 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 1: that ze and so I think think we're almost talking 173 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 1: about friends Giving, and when we think about the evolution 174 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: of it, some of it may be out of necessity. 175 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,360 Speaker 1: So if you can't afford to travel home, or if 176 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: you have to do a potluck style dinner, because do 177 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: you know how much a turkey costs? 178 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: Turkeys are expensive. I will never purchase a turkey. Write 179 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: that in stone. I will never purchase a turkey. 180 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:20,960 Speaker 1: So when you consider those things, and then these other 181 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: kind of emotional pools where you want to acknowledge these 182 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: people who have supported you year round and who have 183 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 1: helped you grow. You kind of have these converging factors 184 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: that drive this new holiday. 185 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 3: We're redefining family. 186 00:09:34,400 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: We are, and we're also dignifying friendship. 187 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely. 188 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 2: We talked about that in the What About your Friend's episode, 189 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 2: like we need to be giving our friendships way more 190 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,440 Speaker 2: weight than we give them, Like, our friends are so 191 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 2: important to our lives. 192 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:53,079 Speaker 1: And I think if you understand that, then you got 193 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: to have a celebration. Yet, this is the bet Awards 194 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,959 Speaker 1: of friendship. Okay, the Emmys of friendship, the Grammys of friendship. 195 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: That's what friends giving it is. 196 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: I need to find a dress, roll. 197 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: Out the red carpet for the people you love. So, 198 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 1: as we mentioned before, we're looking at celebration through the 199 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:09,959 Speaker 1: lens of sociology. 200 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 2: Sociology is the study of society and that's the big umbrella. 201 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: So that can be the development the structure of a 202 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 2: society or how it functions, and you can also talk 203 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 2: about social relationships and institutions. So when we're talking about 204 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 2: the sociology of celebration, we're talking about how we behave 205 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: cross culturally when a celebration occurs, whether it's planned or spontaneous, when. 206 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: We try to figure out some clues to help us 207 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 1: characterize why we behave like this, why we enjoy celebration, 208 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: and sometimes while we celebrate too much. We came across 209 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: the Journal of Comparative Research and Anthropology and Sociology. They 210 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: had a whole issue on celebration and these two authors, 211 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: Rusu and Cantola laid out this great kind of way 212 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: to now a gate through celebration. If you think about 213 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: celebration as a map. On most maps, you have a north, south, east, 214 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: and west. Those are four coordinates. They give us three 215 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: coordinates temporality, spatiality, and sociality. 216 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:16,559 Speaker 3: Okay, so let's get into it. 217 00:11:16,679 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: So let's talk about temporality. And this is all about time. 218 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 1: So when we think about time as it relates to celebration, celebrations, 219 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: are these disruptions in our day to day I can 220 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: remember as a kid, somebody's birthday party happening on a Saturday. 221 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: That was an anomaly, right, Yeah, we were gonna eat cake, 222 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: we were gonna do all these things that we did 223 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: not normally do on Saturday. 224 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,160 Speaker 3: Chuckie Cheese had the best pizza. 225 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: Pizza is your celebration food, It really is, and it 226 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:46,079 Speaker 1: probably started with Chucke Cheese. But you almost find that 227 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: when we think about these celebrations that are rooted in time, 228 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: so religious holidays, they almost pattern our day to day. 229 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 1: So if you think about our year going along in 230 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: a circle, every time we hit March or April, there 231 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 1: are some spring celebrations. Every time around the summer, there's 232 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: June teenth or fourth of July, whatever you celebrate, Right, 233 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 1: there's these things in every year when you come around, 234 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: they almost pattern what our cycle of time looks like 235 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: because they're a disruption every time, over and over again. 236 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,240 Speaker 3: Every year at the same time, right, And so. 237 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: It's interesting we can think of these celebrations that's helping 238 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: us shift from the monotony of this day to day 239 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: kind of punch in, punch out, clock in, clock out. 240 00:12:25,160 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: They add some excitement to our day to day lives 241 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: and it gives us something to look forward to, right. Yes, 242 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 1: And it feels a little crazy, right because you're saying, oh, 243 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: we pattern time with these celebrations and they disrupt time. 244 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,600 Speaker 1: So if they disrupt time at the same time, all 245 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: the time. Aren't they a pattern too? It's too much 246 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: for my brain. It's like if we're going into exception, right. 247 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: I saw something else that was really interesting. It talked 248 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: about these two Greek words related to Greek mythology about time, 249 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:56,720 Speaker 1: So there was chronos and chiros. You can think of 250 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: chronos as representing the godly personification is what this text 251 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: says of linear, never ending quantitative time. So for me, 252 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 1: chronos is the clock and we can think of chronological 253 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:10,920 Speaker 1: order right, linear time right. But Kiros is a little 254 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,880 Speaker 1: bit different. Kiros is like I'm just going off the vibes, right, 255 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 1: and for me, that is what celebration time is, like, 256 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: you know the vibe when we're celebrating. Just show up 257 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: when it's time. Do you remember that time we had 258 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: a party and our friend Sean said she was gonna 259 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: bring hamburger buns and she showed up so late, Oh my. 260 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:29,560 Speaker 3: Gosh, and she showed up late. 261 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, well, you're bringing a critical element 262 00:13:32,880 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: because we're grilling out and we have burgers and hot dogs, 263 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: and you were in charge. 264 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: Of the vehicle buns for those meets. 265 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 1: Sewn showing up when she felt like it was time 266 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: to show up for me, that's chiros, right, it's no 267 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: real What is an hour. What is time is when 268 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: the party starts. And I am a firm proponent of kiros. 269 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 1: When it comes to when a celebration ends, the party 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: is over when we're dead. 271 00:13:59,040 --> 00:14:03,520 Speaker 2: So the next element of the coordinates of celebration is spatiality, 272 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 2: and that's all about where's the party at. Along with 273 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 2: our routinized celebrations, this usually happens at a certain place. Right, 274 00:14:12,640 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 2: So if you're celebrating passover, maybe you go to a 275 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 2: satyr at your grandmother's house every year, or maybe if 276 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:22,400 Speaker 2: you're celebrating ed, you go to your uncle's house every year, 277 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 2: and that's where all of that celebrating happens. But it 278 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 2: happens in the same place, and so in your mind, 279 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,440 Speaker 2: as soon as you walk through those doors, you're like, okay, 280 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 2: it's time to celebrate. For me and my family, it 281 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 2: would alternate every year. For Thanksgiving, we would alternate between 282 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 2: my uncle Jacob and Aunt Rachel's house. Then it would 283 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,479 Speaker 2: be at my house, so my parents would host Thanksgiving, 284 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: and so we would just go back and forth and 285 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: back and forth. And I think that's because my dad 286 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: is the oldest of eight siblings, and then my uncle 287 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 2: Jacob is his younger brother. He's right behind him, so 288 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: they're kind of like the heads of the family, and 289 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: so we just alternate between those two. There was always 290 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 2: so much fun seeing all of my cousins and aunts 291 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 2: and uncles and everything like that all in one place. 292 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 3: What about u Z. 293 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 1: I think for major holidays like Christmas, Thanksgiving, when we 294 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 1: celebrated those growing up, we always went to my grandma's house, 295 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: so my mom's mom the drive down there, I remember 296 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: it will be like so excited to go there. It 297 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: was like an hour or so away from where we 298 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: lived in Greensboro, and it was just a thing, right, 299 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: you were just bubbling with excitement. Now we went there 300 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,040 Speaker 1: every other weekend that wasn't a holiday, but it just 301 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: hit different right now, it would have been like homecoming season. 302 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: I can remember A and T homecoming all right, geho, 303 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: greatest homecoming on Earth. I didn't even go to A 304 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: and T. But I grew up in the city where 305 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: it was, so I felt like A and T's homecoming 306 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:44,360 Speaker 1: was always like another big holiday. People would come because 307 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: a lot of my family members went there, so you 308 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 1: would see family it was like a mini Thanksgiving before Thanksgiving, 309 00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 1: and we would go to my great aunt, my aunt Lina, 310 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: we would go to her house. And so it's just 311 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: interesting how as soon as we started talking about celebrations, 312 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: I can pinpoint these different places for different celebrations. 313 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I guess we can zoom out a little bit. 314 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: So it's like not even just specific for your family, 315 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 2: but even like culturally as Americans, like when we think 316 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 2: about celebrating New Year's Eve, we think of the ball 317 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 2: dropping in Times Square. We might not necessarily be there, 318 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: but it's just so iconic and ingrain into our minds 319 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 2: that we think of that when we think of New 320 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 2: Year's Eve. 321 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: The spatiality aspect is really interesting because it can be 322 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: a whole city, you know, like when we think about 323 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: Mardi Gras in New Orleans and when we think about 324 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: Running of the Bulls. There are these places where these 325 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: celebrations occur. And it can be broad like that, but 326 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: it can also be really specific. So, right, if you 327 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 1: normally eating your kitchen or your living room, but for 328 00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: big holidays, you guys all gather around the dining table 329 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and you use that special furniture hah. 330 00:16:46,600 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 3: The special plates yeah, the napkins. 331 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: That's a spatial queue, right, is almost reminiscent of some 332 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 1: religious ceremonies and celebrations that happen in these sacred spaces 333 00:16:58,120 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: or sanctuaries. Right. We're almost replicating that there's something ritualistic 334 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: about a lot of our celebrations anyway, and so here 335 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: we see it appearing again. 336 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then. 337 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:11,440 Speaker 2: Even if there isn't a special place for whatever you're 338 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 2: trying to celebrate, we convert our existing spaces into a 339 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 2: space for celebration, absolutely, and that is. 340 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 3: Literally what folks did for Friendsgiving. 341 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: So we've touched temporality, which is time space, reality which 342 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: is where are you? And now we're hitting sociality, which 343 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,960 Speaker 1: is how does it feel? It's the social aspect. So 344 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: the togetherness you're kind of dropping those barriers is the vibes. 345 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 1: It's really interesting because when you have a holiday, you 346 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:43,119 Speaker 1: got your core group of people that you always normally see, 347 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: but then you always have some stragglers. You got that 348 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: one cousin who shows up for Easter, you like, we 349 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: haven't seen them all year, right, Or you have that 350 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: aunt or uncle that you don't really deal with like that, 351 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: but you're going to keep it cute for the holiday, right. 352 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 1: I think it's really interesting. Even on a broader scale, 353 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: even if you just zoom out, we can almost consider 354 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 1: this as people being in the holiday spirit or having 355 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: some holiday cheer. 356 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: Mm hmmm hmm. 357 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: It almost feels like community level or group level. We're 358 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 1: all extending a little bit more grace. 359 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: Yes, worldwide vibes and no one is supposed to be 360 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 2: coming in and killing the vibe, and so sociality I 361 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 2: think is key to a good celebration. 362 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: But I think it's important to highlight sociality can go 363 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,800 Speaker 1: either way because that sense of community. You can either 364 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: leverage it and make everybody feel equal, you can bring 365 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: everybody in. And it really depends on your holiday because 366 00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: if you have a holiday that is built on power 367 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: dynamics and access to certain things, it can also isolate too. 368 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: So you want to be aware of that when you 369 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: build in your friends giving, are you saying everybody got 370 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: to bring a ball of asa space. Everybody can't do that. 371 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 1: I won't be there, and some folks don't drink right, 372 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: And so those are all the things to think about. 373 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: You know. I had to really question my cookout style 374 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: over the past couple of years, I've had more and 375 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 1: more vegetarian friends. Oh, and I said, what do you 376 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 1: have to offer them? Is it a celebration if they 377 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: can only have a potato? It's not. 378 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,159 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, Yes, this happened to me because me 379 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: and Jimmy do a holiday dinner every year, and two 380 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 2: dinners ago, so not the last one we did, but 381 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: the one before that. We had some friends that showed up, 382 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: and I knew that they were vegetarians, so we tried 383 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: to have some vegetarian options, but one was vegan, and 384 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 2: that just eliminated all options. There was literally nothing for 385 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: them to eat. And I was mortified. I was messing 386 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 2: up the sociality of my dinner party. I was killing 387 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 2: the vibes from my vegan friends. But I know that 388 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 2: they knew you meant well. They were good sports. I 389 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: was crying into my hand. 390 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 1: The Queen of the ham was having a bad night. 391 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,400 Speaker 1: That just takes us to the next point about what 392 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: happens when celebrations and the expectations around them get really high, 393 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:01,360 Speaker 1: and they can on a lot of pressure. But we're 394 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: not going to talk about it just yet. We're about 395 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 1: to take a break, and when we come back, we'll 396 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: jump right into the case for scaling back on celebrations. 397 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 1: I know it seems a little counterintuitive, and how we'll 398 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 1: continue to celebrate even when we can't be together. 399 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:33,439 Speaker 2: We're back, and now we're going to jump into the 400 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 2: case for scaling back on celebrations. We have already talked 401 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 2: in great detail about how we love to celebrate, but 402 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 2: in some cases, some you kind of have to just 403 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 2: fall back a little bit and chill. 404 00:20:44,840 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 1: I think we have to make some points really clear. 405 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,440 Speaker 1: When we say we like to celebrate, we don't mean 406 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: every time we have to take things to the top. 407 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: I mean we like to find the celebratory moments even 408 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: in the small things. Right, So it's like, hmm, this 409 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: doctor Pepper has all the fizz. It's a par day, 410 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 1: you know. It's all the little things, the little stuff. 411 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 1: When it happens things go the way you want, or 412 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: even when things don't, that's the time to really celebrate 413 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:11,720 Speaker 1: that we're just here and making it okay. 414 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,879 Speaker 2: Yes, I remember one time when we were in grad 415 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 2: school and I baked a batch of cookies and I 416 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 2: took some to the kid's lab and she loved it. 417 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,639 Speaker 2: It was a celebration really for nothing. 418 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:26,360 Speaker 1: I love that kind of stuff. You know, I think 419 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: we just need more moments of joy for ourselves, right, 420 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: because if we are relying on it externally, the external 421 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: world will fail. 422 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:33,399 Speaker 2: You. 423 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,320 Speaker 1: We see that we had all a twenty twenty and 424 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: look at what he did. I'm so ashamed of twenty twenty. 425 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: I don't even want to talk about it. 426 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:41,240 Speaker 3: Right, you got to celebrate life while you still got it. 427 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 1: That's right. But I think some people take it to 428 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: the extreme on the other part. Right, it's not a 429 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: party unless there are custom name cards for everybody, streamers 430 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: hanging down, a minor explosion of viral technics, and I'm 431 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: just like, no, no, no, we don't need that for 432 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: a birthday, for the first birthday, you know, you know, 433 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: they won't even remember. 434 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 3: This, right exactly. 435 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:06,639 Speaker 2: I think we've seen even this year some issues with 436 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 2: some celebrations that went a little bit over the top, 437 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 2: like the gender reveals that started wildfires in California and Arizona. Yeah, 438 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: you want us to know what genitalia your child has, 439 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 2: and then you're gonna burn down half the state. 440 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: I think that's a little excessive, right, it is it is. 441 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,000 Speaker 1: I think there's also a whole culture around celebrations. Some 442 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: of this feels like I look at Pinterest, I say, Pinterest, 443 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: you're giving people way too many ideas. My friend, her 444 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,920 Speaker 1: cousin was having a baby and she made a whole 445 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: cake out of diapers. She was like, I have to 446 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 1: find the right lace to tie around these diapers. I 447 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: have to find the right ribbon and trimming. It was 448 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: a Safari style thing, and she needed to find all 449 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: these animals and glue them on. And I was like, girl, 450 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: this feels more stressful than anything. But it was a 451 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: labor of love for her. 452 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:53,120 Speaker 3: I remember this. 453 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: But I think social media is also a driver because honey, 454 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: people started posting yes, doing it for the I'm just 455 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: trying to do it for me. 456 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 2: So another reason why people might be celebrating a lot 457 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 2: could be because of this whole idea of globalization. A 458 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 2: lot of people are starting to live farther and farther apart. 459 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:12,720 Speaker 3: From each other. 460 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 2: Because of the way technology is, we have the ability 461 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: to stay in contact with people literally. 462 00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 3: All over the world. 463 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: Yes, the cultures are blending, so we have a lot 464 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 2: more multicultural families, and social media is at. 465 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 3: The wheel of this bus. 466 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 2: We are over celebrating and oversharing and doing all. 467 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 3: Of the extra things. 468 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: And so it's going to be really interesting to see 469 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:40,400 Speaker 1: how this season of celebration plays out. With first everybody 470 00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 1: sharing on social media, with second, everybody supposed to be 471 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 1: quarantining up until now. 472 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 3: Right, y'all supposed to be social distancing. 473 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: I'm interested to see how all these factors come together 474 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: during this season of celebration. 475 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 3: It's a unique time. 476 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,479 Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, baby, I'm zooming. Okay, 477 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,040 Speaker 1: I'm zooming with y'all, and don't zoom by my house, 478 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 1: especially not unannounced. 479 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 3: Yes, we are talking about the web conferencing software. Do 480 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: not zoom here. 481 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: I'm all about togetherness, but let's be together virtually. 482 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 3: Be together apart. 483 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: This year, I'm gonna do a friends giving with a 484 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,959 Speaker 1: few people who have been in their homes NonStop and 485 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: who are just as diligent about coronavirus safety protocols as 486 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: I am. And then I'm zooming with everybody else. They 487 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: can also have the same thing we're having here. I'm 488 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: gonna be sharing my recipes. 489 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 2: Yes, all of it, and I will be eating yes. 490 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: So that's all I bring to the table. This is 491 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: the reason why I've been so diligent. Over the last however, 492 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 2: many months, we've been social distancing because I knew this 493 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 2: time would come. I knew that folks would mess us 494 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 2: up for all of us, and we would not be 495 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 2: doing the normal fall time celebrations, and that friendsgiving would 496 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: be affected. And I knew that my friend would still 497 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: be cooking, and I know me, I want that food. 498 00:24:56,480 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 2: So I said, sacrifice now so you can joy the 499 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: spoils later. 500 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,359 Speaker 1: I want to hear from everybody else, though. What are 501 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: you guys doing over the holiday season? What are your plans? 502 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: Are you zooming with people? Invite us if you are 503 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: doing an Instagram live, we want to see how you prep. 504 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: I love to see people do their meal preps and 505 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:14,680 Speaker 1: get ready. 506 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:16,919 Speaker 2: Oh I just I learned so much so on the 507 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 2: Spotify platform. Right now, there's a poll where we're asking 508 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: what you're going to be doing to celebrate the holidays 509 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: this season. 510 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 3: Are you staying home? Are you doing zoom calls. 511 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 2: Where you and your friends and family are eating over 512 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: the internet, or are you doing an extended bubble situation 513 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 2: like Zekiah? 514 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 3: Let us know. Hit the poll right now. 515 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 1: I do love all the creative things that I've seen 516 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: Halloween I saw people doing some great stuff. 517 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: I loved the engineering that came out of Halloween this year. 518 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 2: People came up with all types of contraptions. I saw 519 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 2: tubes where they were just sliding down the candy to 520 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: the kids. I saw some catapults. It just made everything 521 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,159 Speaker 2: so much fun. And I saw y'all using your engineering minds, 522 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 2: which I love. 523 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: Yes, TT was standing, I can't wait to see our 524 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: They going to catapult sweet potato pie. What will we 525 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: see for these coming holidays? You know, I'm really excited. 526 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 1: I love that we remain resilient. We continue to innovate 527 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 1: and think of different ways to leverage technology, leverage physics, 528 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: leverage engineering, to be with one another, to be in 529 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 1: community and share and just uplift one another. 530 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think it's important. Yeah, And it's all science. Honestly. 531 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 2: Coming up with new ways to do stuff because of 532 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 2: a new challenge is science. It is engineering that is 533 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 2: like the basis of all things, coming up with solutions 534 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 2: to new problems and sometimes. 535 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 3: All problems that you didn't even realize that you had. 536 00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: So I think we should all be excited about the 537 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 2: possibilities about what this holiday season is going to look 538 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 2: like and get ready to celebrate. 539 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: Check out our website our show notes for this lab 540 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: to read more about the research that drove the ideas 541 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 1: we brought to you from Russu and Kintola, and to 542 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,280 Speaker 1: learn more about the sociology of celebration. 543 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,679 Speaker 2: On our website, you can find a chee cheet for 544 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 2: today's lab, along with a ton of other links and 545 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: resources in the show notes. 546 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,159 Speaker 1: And if you want to stay in the note with 547 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: Dope Labs, don't forget to sign up for our newsletter 548 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: on our site too. 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T Show Dia 566 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: and Zakiah Wattley. I have a video from our last 567 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: Friends giving of us doing the electric slide? 568 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 3: Was I doing it? 569 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:24,919 Speaker 1: I think you were in the kitchen, but Jimmy was 570 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:25,879 Speaker 1: definitely doing it with us. 571 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: Of course Jimmy was doing it.