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Speaker 1: Hey, Colts fans, I'm JJ stankovitz En. Welcome into another

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Speaker 1: episode of The Cult Show in Indianapolis. Colts Podcast. We

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Speaker 1: are presented by our friends at Microsoft Surface co Pilot

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Speaker 1: plus PC. Awesome episode coming up today. I had a

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Speaker 1: long conversation with should be Hall of Fame kicker Adam Vinitari.

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Speaker 1: We had a chance to sit down talk about the

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Speaker 1: to become the third kicker to be inducted into Canton.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, it should be this year. Chi had

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Speaker 1: been last year, but whatever. We also got into how

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Speaker 1: he watches games, some stories from his career. My favorite

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Speaker 1: a great story about that. Without further ado, let's get

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Speaker 1: to my conversation with former Cults kicker Adam Vniti right

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Speaker 1: after this. The Colt Show is presented by Microsoft Surface

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Speaker 1: and win. This isn't just about football, It's about unlocking

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Speaker 1: potential wherever the game is played. It is my pleasure

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Speaker 1: to be welcomed here on the Colts Show by former

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Speaker 1: kicker Adam Minitari future Hall of Fame kicker Adam Minitary.

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Speaker 1: Let's hope this year right hopefully? How you doing doing well?

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Speaker 2: Doing really well? Thanks for having me on today.

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Speaker 1: It's exciting to have you on here. I know Hall

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Speaker 1: Class of twenty twenty six. I want to ask you, though, like,

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Speaker 1: How do you handle it?

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Speaker 2: Honestly, I don't really pay attention unless, you know, when

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Speaker 2: But I haven't got all the way there, you know.

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Speaker 2: way it does. You know. I've been very, very bless

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Speaker 2: like we all hope, you know, But if it happens

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Speaker 2: it's just, you know, it's just one of those things

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's a it's a huge honor. It's

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Speaker 1: What is the night before the Super Bowl? Like for

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Speaker 1: That first year you're in Indy, obviously, that's the cult

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Speaker 2: Well, it's for me I learned early in my career,

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Speaker 2: Well, you know that. It's funny you bring up that game.

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Speaker 2: because you're gonna have have crappy weather games more than not. Right.

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Speaker 2: of was like smooth. I wouldn't say smooth sale. It's

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Speaker 1: Is that harder though for a kicker when you only

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think that's the worst part of it is

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you, so you're this episode's coming

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Speaker 1: Guitar with you is the goal?

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Speaker 1: And you're gonna have the win for Jim. Shirt on

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Speaker 1: a lot of it, you know, for mister Ersay? Right,

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Speaker 1: What what did mister Ersay mean to you? As someone

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I know, I've said it before. Jim

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Speaker 2: He loved the team, He loved all the players. Like

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Speaker 2: You know, there's always times that go by that, you know,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. Do you have any of the like

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of them, I think. You know, we've

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Speaker 2: It was always about that one golf shot. Oh you

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Speaker 2: story that's so meaningless. But yeah, he was the type

432
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 2: of man that hard not to love him because he

433
00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:17,680
Speaker 2: was such a great man.

434
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,760
Speaker 1: But I mean that's a story too about him knowing

435
00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 1: you personally, right, you know, he'd be very easy for

436
00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: him to introduce you as Outavinitary, the greatest kicker to

437
00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: ever play football. I love that. I love that he

438
00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, this guy had a great golf shot that

439
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,960
Speaker 1: one time. Because he he cares that to me, even

440
00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 1: though it's a little thing there, that's an example of

441
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,080
Speaker 1: him caring about you, just outside of you as a

442
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:38,760
Speaker 1: football player.

443
00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,320
Speaker 2: And in some of his memory stuff, like you would

444
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 2: talk to him and he would bring up something about,

445
00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:46,679
Speaker 2: you know, when I was rocking out with you know what.

446
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:50,280
Speaker 2: He just stories that. It's so much fun just to

447
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,199
Speaker 2: just to be around him, just to listen to his

448
00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,320
Speaker 2: stories and the things that he's been a part of. Right,

449
00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,359
Speaker 2: I mean, we all dream about doing fun stuff. I

450
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,040
Speaker 2: think Jim lived that every single day and it was awesome.

451
00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,640
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little about this current Colts team. You'll

452
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,200
Speaker 1: be there Monday. Blake Groupie just did a sixty yard kick.

453
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,159
Speaker 1: That's a franchise record in Seattle, Big big kick. What

454
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 1: did you like? How did you watch that moment?

455
00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 2: I was standing there watching, kind of like standing, not sitting, No, No,

456
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: for sure, I was definitely standing kind of probably shaking

457
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,560
Speaker 2: a little bit. Kind of come home man, Come home man,

458
00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,720
Speaker 2: and he just drilled it was that was awesome. Like

459
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,120
Speaker 2: I hate the fact that there's still fifty seconds left

460
00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 2: on the clock after that. You know, it's one of

461
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 2: those things. It's like I wish it was time expires.

462
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,560
Speaker 2: He's banging the game winner it that way. Yeah, No,

463
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 2: I that was an amazing kick. And I get It's

464
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: funny because I think I get more nervous watching other

465
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,159
Speaker 2: people now than I ever did when I was playing,

466
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 2: because I know what I'm what I can do, and

467
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,880
Speaker 2: when you're in it, you're focusing on you know your technique,

468
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,639
Speaker 2: and you know the process of what you're doing. When

469
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: you're standing there watching or sitting there watching games, I get,

470
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 2: I know, watching my own kids and stuff when they play,

471
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:00,000
Speaker 2: I get more nervous for them than I ever got

472
00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:02,760
Speaker 2: for myself. So watching group, he hit that ball, that

473
00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:03,560
Speaker 2: was pretty awesome.

474
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: So this year kind of as a segue to that,

475
00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:09,680
Speaker 1: there have been like more sixty yard field goals made

476
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,399
Speaker 1: this year. The guy in Jacksonville hit a new NFL record,

477
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: And there is a change this year in the process

478
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:21,159
Speaker 1: of getting caballs ready for games. Yep, real quick, just

479
00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: educate me and educate anyone who maybe doesn't know what

480
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about. What is a caball? What's the difference

481
00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: between a kicking ball and a regular football?

482
00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 2: Well, qball the reason why k I'll give you a

483
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 2: little back history on it. I believe Mitch Berger was

484
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,639
Speaker 2: the kicker for the Vikings when Dante Culpepper was the

485
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,919
Speaker 2: quarterback there and they were playing at home against the

486
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,159
Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers and Brett Farv Now Mitch is a

487
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,640
Speaker 2: friend of mine and I know the story pretty well,

488
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 2: but at the time, he was leading the league in

489
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 2: touchbacks back when we kicked off from the thirty, so

490
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 2: a lot of kickoff rules have changed, but he's setting

491
00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,719
Speaker 2: records for hitting long touchbacks and I'm like, dude, and

492
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,639
Speaker 2: he said, well, Dante doesn't care what we do to

493
00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,200
Speaker 2: the balls, so I blew them up like rugby balls,

494
00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:08,800
Speaker 2: so they're really fat and they fly really, really far. Well, Brett,

495
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 2: through three or four picks in that game, went to

496
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 2: the media blew up, ah, this is bs wen. You know,

497
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,360
Speaker 2: I can't throw these balls. And that was the invention

498
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 2: of the kicking ball thereafter. Right right after that, the

499
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,680
Speaker 2: next season, they implement the rule for k balls. So

500
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,159
Speaker 2: it's exactly the same football, just with like a like

501
00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: an ironed k on it. And it's morphed over years.

502
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 2: You know. At the beginning, it was the referees brought

503
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: those balls and they were the only ones that could

504
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 2: touch them. They inflate them and throw them out on

505
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 2: the field, and they were terrible, absolutely terrible, because they

506
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 2: didn't want to spend the time breaking in rubbing the balls,

507
00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:48,960
Speaker 2: getting the packing grease off, wetting them down with a towel.

508
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 2: They didn't really want to do a lot of that.

509
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:53,359
Speaker 2: So we suffered for a few years kicking balls that

510
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 2: just didn't travel the same way. Then it kind of

511
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: morphed into okay, we'll let the equipment guys have thirty

512
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,600
Speaker 2: men to one equipment guy from the other team and

513
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 2: the equipment guy from our team. They can go into

514
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: a room and they can work on the balls as

515
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,120
Speaker 2: long as the referees are watching. But back in the day,

516
00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 2: you say, what did what did we do? Well? We

517
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: used to. We used to wet them down and we

518
00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: would throw them in a bag the laundry into the dryers,

519
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 2: right and we'd put a half wet bag and the

520
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 2: balls were soaked down. We'd throw them in the dryers

521
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,760
Speaker 2: and let them bounce around for twenty thirty minutes and

522
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:26,679
Speaker 2: it would soften them up and blow them up. I

523
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 2: remember taking a forty five pound plate that you use

524
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 2: when you're lifting and putting it on top of the

525
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 2: ball and standing on it and bouncing and moving around

526
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 2: just to stretch the ball a little bit more our quarterback.

527
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 2: This was in New England before the k ball rule

528
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,719
Speaker 2: kicked on, and our quarterbacks had to approve all of

529
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,959
Speaker 2: those balls. But after that Green Bay game and that

530
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 2: Minnesota Green Bay game, then it became kickers are only

531
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,119
Speaker 2: kicking kicking balls, and quarterbacks have their own balls, so

532
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,440
Speaker 2: there was never the only time that it would ever

533
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,280
Speaker 2: be would be like a may Day or an end

534
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: of the game field goal and there's the clocks going down,

535
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,159
Speaker 2: they can't replace the ball. Then you would kick the

536
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: quarterback ball. Otherwise they're always getting a kicker ball. In

537
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,320
Speaker 2: rumor has it they've taken all stipulations off the kicking

538
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 2: balls this year and they're like letting them do whatever

539
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 2: they want to. So I would assume that they've gone

540
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 2: back to making these things so very fly A long way.

541
00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,960
Speaker 1: I have it here. This is from Kaylen Kayler at ESPN,

542
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,400
Speaker 1: and she wrote a story about this early in the season.

543
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: It was after Vic Fangio was basically like, we gave

544
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,399
Speaker 1: up like a fifty six yardfield goal and like a

545
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 1: sixty yard field goal. And he's like, it's because they

546
00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: changed the caballs. There's not necessarily any data that indicates

547
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 1: there's a difference there. But this year or up until

548
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 1: this year, teams only had sixty minutes to prep caballs

549
00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,719
Speaker 1: with water tiles, brushes, and tacky sponges. Now caballs can

550
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,760
Speaker 1: be prepped before game day by the team. Now there

551
00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 1: are still stipulations where I don't think you can throw

552
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,879
Speaker 1: them in a dryer necessarily.

553
00:25:56,400 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: Would they know?

554
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 1: Well, great point, I'm but there is an uptick in

555
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,080
Speaker 1: long field goals being made this year.

556
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,280
Speaker 2: Yeah. Sure.

557
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:10,240
Speaker 1: How does that all like impact? You know, if you're

558
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: doing stuff to the kball to get it ready for

559
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: game day, how does that help you get more distance?

560
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,439
Speaker 2: I'll explain it like a new pair of dress shoes

561
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,119
Speaker 2: that you buy right off the rack and they're stiff,

562
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 2: and that they're not very pliable and they're not very comfortable, right,

563
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: Usually you want to wear them for you women out

564
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 2: there a new set of high heels. Right, they go,

565
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 2: oh my god, these are killing my feet. Right after

566
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: you've broken the shoe in, after you've worn it a

567
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 2: bunch of time, the leather starts to stretch out and

568
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 2: gets a little bit softer. Same thing with a football

569
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: is the more you, you know, rub it with the

570
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,320
Speaker 2: brush or the more you're doing stuff. That's the reason

571
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 2: why you wet it down with towels is because it

572
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 2: takes off the packing grease and it soaks in the water,

573
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 2: so it just loosens up the leather a little bit.

574
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 2: And you know, I don't I'm not a physics major

575
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: or anything, but I know the more pliable the ball is,

576
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 2: the more it compresses, the more it will take off.

577
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: And so I do know from before k balls to

578
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 2: when the referees were doing it, there was a five

579
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 2: or seven yard difference in distance on kicks. I mean

580
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: it just it was. I mean, you take you take

581
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: the same kicker in two separate balls, you're gonna get

582
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: at least a five yard difference on a ball that's

583
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: well broken in Interesting.

584
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you you think about like this cult season,

585
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 1: and you know Blake Croupy being the one to come

586
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,840
Speaker 1: in and make that kick. He's the third kicker this year.

587
00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 1: The first kicker the Colts had, Spencer Schrader was having

588
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: a awesome year, fantastic season. Can you talk me through

589
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: the way he got hurt? Like, because that to me

590
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 1: is on a pat The guy ran into his leg

591
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,880
Speaker 1: and he, you know, tears up his leg. That didn't

592
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: sit super well with me as someone who's just watching

593
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,679
Speaker 1: it from afar, But as a former kicker, how did

594
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: you see?

595
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 2: It didn't sit well with me either. You know. It's

596
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 2: one of those I'm sure, and I know it was

597
00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 2: against the Raiders, and I know Tom McMahon is their

598
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: special teams coach, and I know he would have never

599
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 2: ever taught a technique to do something wrong. It was

600
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 2: just it was unfortunately the guy got too deep around

601
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 2: the edge and rather than flattening out and getting to

602
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 2: the ball, he ended up going right into Spencer's knee.

603
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: And and you know when your knee, when you're when

604
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,200
Speaker 2: your foot's planted and somebody comes in, I mean, that's

605
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: when bad things happen. And that's why they have the

606
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,200
Speaker 2: rules on you know, a kicker or a punter when

607
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 2: their foot is planted they're basically a defenseless I mean,

608
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 2: they're the same as a as a as a quarterback.

609
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 2: That's why they can't go low on a quarterback, right,

610
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 2: So yeah, that really really sucked. I felt terrible for

611
00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 2: him because that's one of those things that you know,

612
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 2: he's young and hopefully and I'm sure he will will

613
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 2: be well, be healthy, and he'll get back out there

614
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 2: and he'll have a great career. But yeah, you hate

615
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: to see an injury like that that should have never happened, right,

616
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 2: I mean, they just you need to teach the technique

617
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 2: and I get it. You know, it's coming down to

618
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 2: a game. Hey, the points are are are very very important.

619
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 2: You know, three points is dictates the wins and losses

620
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 2: of games all the time. So you're going a million

621
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 2: miles an hour you're trying to block that, but at

622
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 2: some point you have to know when to pull off

623
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: or when to.

624
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 1: Hey yeah it was aout.

625
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, exactly right like it it was. It was

626
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,120
Speaker 2: needless and careless and it sucked. But yeah, hopefully that

627
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: I feel like there should be a bigger penalty, maybe fines,

628
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: because you know, hey, it didn't affect the outcome of

629
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: the game, but It surely affected the career of a

630
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 2: certain individual for.

631
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Sure, affected the outcome of the Colts season for sure

632
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: in a way.

633
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I you know, if you go low on a quarterback,

634
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: if you're taking out Patrick Mahomes or Tom Brady or

635
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: Peyton Manning or any of these guys, you're getting a

636
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: FedEx of a fifty thousand dollars fine for going low.

637
00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: I think it should be the same wave with kickers.

638
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 2: I really do.

639
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: The You are still the oldest player to play for

640
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: the Colts in franchise history. But Philip Rivers is like

641
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: a lot on your heels right now, he's.

642
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 2: Gotta go another three.

643
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 1: When you saw that, I know you didn't play with Philip,

644
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:10,200
Speaker 1: but you saw his career, his entire career. What was

645
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: the reaction to that, Like, how did you look at

646
00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 1: Philip Rivers coming back in forty four to play quarterback

647
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 1: for the Colts.

648
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: Well, you know, it's less about his age and more

649
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 2: about the time that he's been away. Yeah right, Like

650
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: if you were if it was forty four but he

651
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: played last season, you'd be like, okay, you know it's

652
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: right there. The fact that, like I think of myself,

653
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 2: I've been out for five years now and coming back,

654
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 2: I'm like, holy molyes, Like, it's not like you don't forget,

655
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: but things change. Your body changes, your timing changes, all

656
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 2: that stuff. So I was this was a highly anticipated game.

657
00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: I know a lot of people watched. I know I

658
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: was sitting there watching the whole time because I wanted

659
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:44,800
Speaker 2: to see how he did. I thought he managed the

660
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 2: game really really well. I mean, you know, the analysts

661
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 2: and the commentators made a lot of comments about his

662
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 2: arm strength not maybe not what it used to be,

663
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 2: but the way I looked at it is he knows

664
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: what he can do, and so he managed the game

665
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 2: really well, right. So I mean, other than the interception

666
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 2: at the very end of the game because we're trying

667
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,120
Speaker 2: to move down the field, I mean, played a pretty

668
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 2: clean game, you know. And and you know, I'm always

669
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: rooting for the old guys. I'm the old guy. I

670
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: got the gray hair too, So I mean I was like, man,

671
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 2: come on, dude, and the fact that it was right

672
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,120
Speaker 2: there at the end that we were very well could

673
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 2: have won that game. That was against Seattle too. I

674
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: mean they're a great team, a great defense. I mean,

675
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 2: they're really really good teams. So it wasn't like we're

676
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: beating up on a team that was two in ten, right,

677
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 2: So yeah, it was pretty awesome. I saw that that

678
00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: Trent Richardson got are the Richardson got cleared now too,

679
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 2: so it'll be interesting. But I think I think Phillips

680
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 2: it was. It was a lot of fun to watch,

681
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 2: and hopefully we get to see him another game.

682
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we will. Shane stick and said he's

683
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,160
Speaker 1: going to be the starting quarterback tonight, you know, and

684
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: I we'll see where it goes. I can't wait personally.

685
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 2: Well, and he's going to have another tough battle, you know.

686
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 2: I mean San Francisco is another really good team that's

687
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 2: fighting for a playoff spot, that's got a good defense.

688
00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 2: So it's not like it's getting any easier. We have

689
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: them in Jacksonville and Houston. I meant, it's a brutal seat. Yeah,

690
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 2: I think our ending of our season is as tough

691
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: as anybody's out there. So we want to make the playoffs,

692
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: We're gonna have to play some good football.

693
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: Absolutely, let's see if it happens tonight. All right, before

694
00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 1: we get you out of here, we talked some ball.

695
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 1: We talked about mister r say I want to ask

696
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: you about splitting the uprights with Adam Nuguerry. Okay, okay,

697
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: So for those who may not know, google it, Google

698
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: split the uprights with Adam Nugaery. It was a Snickers

699
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: commercial from two thousand and nine. I told you before

700
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: we started recording. It's like seared into my brain because

701
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: in like two thousand and nine, I'm in college and

702
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm watching football. I'm watching college football whatever, and it's

703
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 1: on all the time. Split the operates in am newgutary.

704
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: You kick a ball that knocks a satellite down to Earth.

705
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: Can you tell me this the genesis and the story

706
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: behind that commercial.

707
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:52,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Snickers was doing a lot of different different

708
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: tongue in cheap or pun kind of things, and they

709
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: invited me to do that. When I was like, oh, absolutely,

710
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 2: this will be this would be great, right, And it

711
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 2: turned out really cool. I think the one thing that

712
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,600
Speaker 2: when they started showing up, my teammates really got a

713
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 2: kick out of it. And then the next question right

714
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: there after is, hey, man, where's my candy? Where's the

715
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 2: candy bars? At right? And so I purposely told them

716
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 2: and they asked, if you want product, I'll send you

717
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: a bunch of product. I'm like, I don't need eight

718
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 2: hundred snicker bars in my house that my waistline does

719
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 2: not need that. I said, I appreciate it, but do

720
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 2: not send me any because if you do, I'll eat them. No.

721
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 2: So anyway, long story short, it was, you know, a

722
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 2: bunch of the guys. Gary Brackett was of one of

723
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,840
Speaker 2: the first guys that said, hey, man's where's the where's

724
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: the snicker bars? So after I got, you know, beat

725
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,440
Speaker 2: up a little bit over that, I called my contact

726
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 2: out there and I said, hey, do you mind you know,

727
00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 2: sending out you know, some of my teammates want some,

728
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 2: and you know whatever. They sent me like a big,

729
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 2: full display and the UPS guy brought boxes that were

730
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 2: you know, I would say like a case had twenty

731
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 2: four and there were probably twelve or fifteen boxes per

732
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: big box. They brought fifty boxes.

733
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: Of that sounds like one for each player on the team.

734
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: Ridiculous amount. Like my wife's like, what did you like?

735
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: The UPS guy is bringing you know, the trolley your house.

736
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got delivered to my Doug Meltain's not bringing

737
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:13,359
Speaker 1: it around.

738
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, he got delivered to

739
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: the house. My wife calls me. He's just like, I

740
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: don't know what you did, but the entire fouryer is

741
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: full of boxes here, right, and so I see it.

742
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: I bring in the display, set it up, you know box,

743
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 2: and guys are just coming and just taking just you know, woo, sorry,

744
00:34:30,440 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 2: they're taking all these different you know, guys are taking

745
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 2: a hundred bars at a time. John Treene was our

746
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:37,839
Speaker 2: strength coach. He comes in, He's like, dude, what are

747
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 2: you doing to me here? You're killing me, Like you're

748
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 2: making my job harder. I'm like, I don't want to

749
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: my house. These guys wanted this stuff, so I just

750
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 2: thought it was hilarious. And it happened to be right

751
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: before right before Halloween too, So we started a family

752
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 2: tradition that we gave full sized candy bars out at

753
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,919
Speaker 2: our house. And they happened to be Snickers that year,

754
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,480
Speaker 2: and then every year after that. My wife said, you know, hey,

755
00:34:58,520 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 2: we can't do it one time, but not the I

756
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,000
Speaker 2: didn't continue to call them get more product. We just

757
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,399
Speaker 2: bought the full sizers after that.

758
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: How long did it take to film that commercial?

759
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 2: Ironically enough, we had weather that came through, so we

760
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 2: started it started raining, so we'd have to you know, Okay,

761
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: we got to wait an hour, so it was an

762
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: all day thing. It was. It was entertaining though, to

763
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 2: say the least, it was. It was pretty cool. I

764
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 2: thought the end product was pretty awesome. I loved it.

765
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the satellite falling all he just kills

766
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: me every time. How many balls do you think you

767
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 1: kicked that day like to do it?

768
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,240
Speaker 2: That's a good question. I wouldn't even have twenty, Probably

769
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 2: not that many because each time they're doing it and

770
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: then hey, can you do a little bit like this,

771
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: or can you know the ability of CGI or whatever

772
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: can make the trajectory look a little different or whatever.

773
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 2: So they got it done pretty well.

774
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 1: But I thought it was pretty awesome, right, last one,

775
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 1: What is the weirdest thing you've ever kicked in your

776
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 1: life or the weirdest place you've ever been at asked

777
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: to kick something.

778
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,760
Speaker 2: There's been quite a few, a lot of different ones.

779
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 2: Probably one of the strangest things is early in my career,

780
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 2: they were doing a like a Marsh grocery store was

781
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,720
Speaker 2: doing this big giveaway thing and they had me kicking

782
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 2: fruitcakes at Christmas time. The fruitcake, yeah, ridiculous, but it

783
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 2: worked out good. I think they raised some money and

784
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: they donated a bunch of food. So that's probably the

785
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: craziest thing that I got asked to kick.

786
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,320
Speaker 1: So Jordan told this story once. Michael Jordan told this

787
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: story about how I think, I don't know if I'm

788
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: gonna get a hund percent right, But he was like

789
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: renting an Airbnb and maybe it was for the Masters

790
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: or something, and the owner of the place is like, hey,

791
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 1: can you shoot a shot? Like they have a basketball

792
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: hoop there, and it was like him and his son,

793
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: And I think the way Jordan put it is like,

794
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 1: that's the most stressful shot in my life because it's

795
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: like I've got to do the thing that I'm known for. Right,

796
00:36:57,120 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: would that like stress you out? Now? If like you

797
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: went out designed high school and they said, okay, can

798
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: you go kick a field goal for this entire crowd? Like,

799
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 1: would that stress you out more than kicking in a

800
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: super Bowl?

801
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: I would definitely want a few practice kicks before I

802
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: went out there and did it.

803
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: That's the thing he said. He didn't have any warm

804
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: up it. Yes, you got a tear basketball.

805
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: Did he make the shot?

806
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: I think he did because it's Michael Georgan.

807
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course he did. Yeah, that's one of those.

808
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:23,439
Speaker 2: Like now, I did have to kick a rugby ball

809
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: at at at a big horse polo thing one time.

810
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 2: It was up in Zionsville, up they have a big

811
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 2: polo yeah, yeah, garden, and they were doing something and

812
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,839
Speaker 2: they wanted me to kick a rugby ball because they

813
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: were having some big rugby things. So that was a

814
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 2: little bit because it was the first time I had

815
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: kicked a rugby ball and tennis shoes on. You know,

816
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,759
Speaker 2: you don't have your cleats, you're not dressed and warm.

817
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 2: I do think I swung my leg and stretched out

818
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: a little bit before that, just to hopefully not not

819
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 2: embarrass myself. But they didn't really. They had two guys

820
00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 2: standing there, right, and so yeah I kicked it between them.

821
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: It was kind of not really an upright, but but

822
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: it was cool, it was fun. It was I guess

823
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: more like the rugby the point after or whatever you

824
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 2: call it. So yeah, it worked out good though. But yeah,

825
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 2: I think some of those moments is a little bit

826
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,160
Speaker 2: more like, you know, if Pat asked me to kick

827
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: one for a million dollars during college game day, I

828
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 2: would hope that I would make it I would expect

829
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 2: to make it, but I think i'd probably be nervous

830
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,359
Speaker 2: having all those people standing around. So some of those

831
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:28,120
Speaker 2: kids drastically missed terribly bad. But every once in a

832
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: while they make it too.

833
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: Is it like in your retirement you're known as anavinitary

834
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: to kicker? Right? Like when you when you're maybe in

835
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: a group or like someone meets you and all you're

836
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: getting asked about is like kicking, kicking, kicking? How do

837
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,719
Speaker 1: you how do you handle that? As like that's what

838
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:47,240
Speaker 1: you're known.

839
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 2: For part of my life, you know, that's part of

840
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: the deal. I never I'm always excited to talk football

841
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: in playoffs and colts and kicking and whatever like that

842
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 2: never bothers me at all. Sometimes now people like, hey,

843
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 2: are you AJ's dad? You know? So now it's not,

844
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 2: you know, because I have two boys that are playing football,

845
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 2: ones in college and ones in high school. Now, like

846
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 2: some of the kids in high school, they obviously remember

847
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:14,880
Speaker 2: or know a little bit, but I've been gone a

848
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 2: while enough that that they start to not really remember,

849
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,920
Speaker 2: you know, you as a kicker. You're more as dad

850
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: or coach. You know, I'm helping coach at Scienceville High School,

851
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: a little bit with the specialists and stuff like that.

852
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 2: So so now I'm more known as a coach than

853
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: a than a kicker.

854
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 1: I mean, the dads on that team are stacked.

855
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 2: Yeah and t y yeah a little bit. Yeah, We've

856
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 2: had We've had a few of them that have came

857
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 2: and helped out and stuff. So yeah, it's it's a

858
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:41,879
Speaker 2: lot of fun. It's a lot of fun being out there.

859
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: So you're coaching, how do you how do you coach?

860
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: As someone who had so much success in the NFL,

861
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 1: you knew your process, you knew what it took to

862
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,879
Speaker 1: do that. How do you disseminate that to like high

863
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 1: school kids or you know, obviously with your own boys.

864
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 2: Very intense I would say that like, like, I'm not

865
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 2: the I was gonna say, I'm not the loud screamer whatever.

866
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: But when we're coaching, like I expect, and that's the

867
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 2: thing that I always have to remember, I'm coaching high

868
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: school kids. We're not in an NFL, you know, where

869
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: you see the best of the best athletes and ourselves.

870
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:14,799
Speaker 1: You're not going to the media and saying we got

871
00:40:14,800 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: a week two week care.

872
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 2: No, No, I'm definitely not doing that. I stay away

873
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: from the media.

874
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:19,319
Speaker 1: There.

875
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 2: It's all about trying to teach the kids technique and

876
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: helping them learn a little bit more. And it's fun

877
00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,640
Speaker 2: too though, because when you watch them use the technique

878
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 2: that you're teaching and then they have success and then

879
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 2: they go, oh, he knows what he's talking about, and

880
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: then they're like on every word, that to me is

881
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 2: more rewarding than you know. I've had a couple of

882
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 2: the high school kids say, hey, can you write me

883
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:43,840
Speaker 2: a letter of recommendation because I'm trying to go to

884
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: college at this I'm like, that's an honor for me

885
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: because I feel like I feel like, you know, playing

886
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: football puts you on a platform that people will listen

887
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: to you to a certain degree, but what you do

888
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 2: with that platform, and if we can change young people's

889
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 2: lives and help them learn how to work a little harder,

890
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: learn how to you know, study their play, you know,

891
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 2: all these little things that they learn now will help

892
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 2: them the rest of their life. I feel like we're

893
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 2: we're teaching and changing young men, and I think that's

894
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 2: that's probably the most rewarding part, way more than wins

895
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 2: and losses.

896
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: One other thing, because I do actually want to follow

897
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: this one more step. Someone told me once when I

898
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 1: had kids that when you see your kids succeed, it's

899
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 1: going to be more rewarding than any success you've ever

900
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,160
Speaker 1: had in your own life. And my kids are six,

901
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,360
Speaker 1: Like seeing them make a shot in like little kid basketball,

902
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: it's like that was amazing. That was so cool. Your

903
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: kids are older, they're playing football. When you see them

904
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: having success, how rewarding is that for you, as you

905
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: know their dad?

906
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,239
Speaker 2: It's amazing. It really is, like I get, I get,

907
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,680
Speaker 2: I beam, I get so much pride and joy and

908
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 2: watching them play. I also am probably the toughest critique too, right,

909
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,799
Speaker 2: So like we I don't know if every other dad does,

910
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 2: but we go on huddle and we go back and

911
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,920
Speaker 2: we watch every play and we start critiquing that kind

912
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: of stuff. And I don't know if every other.

913
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: Dad does, Probably not, but not every other dad's gonna

914
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Fame kickers.

915
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 2: Well well hopefully, but yeah, no, for me, it's just

916
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 2: one of those things I've learned the process through so

917
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: many years of playing and watching film and critiquing and

918
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: doing it right that Mike, you might as well if

919
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 2: you're gonna play, if you're gonna go out there and

920
00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 2: do it, you might as might as well be the

921
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 2: best version of yourself. So let's learn how to do

922
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: it right. And then the better you are, the more

923
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: fun it is, too right. So but yeah, for me,

924
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 2: like I said, get I get more nervous watching them,

925
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 2: I get more joy watching them. I shouldn't say kicking

926
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,919
Speaker 2: a game winning Super Bowl kick brings a lot of joy.

927
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: There's very few things that can bring that kind of joy.

928
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 2: But watching my kids play is it's pretty awesome.

929
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Adam Minitary, thanks for joining me here on

930
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:47,960
Speaker 1: the Culture. I really appreciate the time.

931
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Speaker 2: Man been wonderful. Thank you.

932
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Speaker 1: All right back here on the Cult Show. It's time

933
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: to bring back the Cult Show mail Bag. Remember you

934
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 1: can get your questions in send them to me on

935
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 1: x on Instagram, you can drop them in the YouTube

936
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,919
Speaker 1: comments of this episode, or go to Colts dot com

937
00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: slash mailbag to submit. Then this one comes from listener

938
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: Julia Backern. Excuse me if I pronounced that name incorrectly.

939
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: Backern or Bochern. Julia asks, I have a question for you.

940
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 1: This probably is more of an offseason question, but do

941
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: you think the Colts re signed Daniel Jones even after

942
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: his injury. Love watching the Colts show every week. Thanks

943
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,440
Speaker 1: for watching and listening to Julia. There's a lot to

944
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 1: get into here thinking about Daniel Jones and what is

945
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: next for the Colts. Obviously, this episode's coming on on Monday.

946
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Got the Monday Night game with Philip Rivers starting against

947
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers. We'll see how the season ends.

948
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: The Colts did not sign Philip Rivers to be a

949
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:43,239
Speaker 1: long term solution at quarterback, so they're gonna have a

950
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: very large decision to make after the season, which they

951
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,680
Speaker 1: were going to regardless of if Daniel Jones finished out

952
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 1: the season healthy or not. But I think a couple

953
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,279
Speaker 1: of things to think about here with Daniel Jones, because

954
00:43:56,360 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: Julia specifically asks even after his injury. So I went

955
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: back and I looked at Kirk Cousins, who is the

956
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: most recent quarterback to hit free agency after tearing his

957
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 1: achilles during a season. So Kirk Cousins, at thirty five

958
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: years old, in Week eight of the twenty twenty three season,

959
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: tore his achilles as the quarterback for the Minnesota Vikings.

960
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,919
Speaker 1: He then that offseason signed a four year mega deal

961
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,319
Speaker 1: with the Atlanta Falcons. Now, the Falcons of course went

962
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 1: out and drafted Michael Pennox junior in a shocking decision,

963
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: to say the least, after signing Kirk Cousins of that deal.

964
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,040
Speaker 1: But Cousins came back and he was cleared for day

965
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: one of training camp. So that was about nine months

966
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:42,120
Speaker 1: after the Achilles injury. Now I don't know necessarily if

967
00:44:42,200 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousin, if like training camp started on June twentieth

968
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: instead of July twenty fifth, if Kirk would have been cleared,

969
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,360
Speaker 1: then like that wasn't necessarily something I was able to

970
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: dig up. But the point is his recovery from achilles

971
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: tear and surgery to cleared for practice was nine months.

972
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 1: So I think, like we hear in India, are all

973
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,759
Speaker 1: obviously I'm certainly in this bucket, we're all scarred by

974
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: Tyrese Halliburton. Right where we see Halliburton go down in

975
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: Game seven in the NBA Finals, and it's like there

976
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:20,600
Speaker 1: goes his entire twenty five to twenty six season, different sports,

977
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: different requirements of what goes on that Achilles. I'll just

978
00:45:24,280 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: you know, say that and Daniel Jones that you know,

979
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: if you look at the Kirk Cousins timeline, where Kirk's

980
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: six years older than Daniel. There's a chance that Daniel

981
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: Jones is cleared for training camp. It might be that

982
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: might be a little aggressive. You know, we don't know

983
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: going into the rehab process, but there's a chance. It's

984
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 1: not something we should just immediately rule out. Because tyre'se

985
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 1: Haliburton had this, I think the more apt comparison is

986
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins. And even then Kirk Cousins again is six

987
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: years older than Daniel Jones, So a lot to think

988
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: about there. I would not be surprised, knowing what I

989
00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 1: know about Daniel Jones and the way that I guarantee

990
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 1: you he's already attacking that rehab that he's going to

991
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 1: do whatever he can to be ready for day one

992
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 1: and training camp. Now will that be with the Colts?

993
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 1: That is now kind of your your other question here,

994
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 1: which is probably a bigger one because if you look

995
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: at Daniel jones season, he up to that point against

996
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: the Falcons where that's when the fibula injury, the fractured

997
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: fibula popped up. Daniel Jones from weeks one to ten

998
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,720
Speaker 1: led the NFL with twenty six and fifty nine passing yards.

999
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: He was top ten in completion percentage and passer rating

1000
00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: in that span, and the Colts had far and away

1001
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: the best offense in the NFL with Daniel Jones behind center,

1002
00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: a healthy Daniel Jones behind center, I think you can

1003
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: look at this offense and you can make a delineation

1004
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: point from weeks one through ten and then weeks twelve

1005
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: through fourteen where things got kind of off the rails

1006
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: for the Colts offense and they declined from leading the

1007
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: NFL in points per game to being bottom ten in

1008
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: that stretch where Daniel Jones was dealing with this this

1009
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 1: fibula injury and it was getting better. Like I think

1010
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: that's almost the cruel part is like that Jags game.

1011
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:17,960
Speaker 1: I'm watching Daniel Jones out there, and I'm like, he's

1012
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: moving better than he has since the buye and then

1013
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: he goes and you know, and does his achilles and

1014
00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: that just you know that I don't think that anything

1015
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: to do with the fibula. By the way, Now, can

1016
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: you count on Daniel Jones to be healthy, Like if

1017
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: he's cleared, does that mean he's like all the way

1018
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: back to Daniel Jones. That's another question. But The larger

1019
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: point here is that when Daniel Jones was healthy, he

1020
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: was playing very good football. And they are going to

1021
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: be quarterback needy teams this year in free agency that

1022
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: are not only the Indianapolis Colts. So what does that

1023
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 1: lead the Colts to do in terms of is this

1024
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,919
Speaker 1: team a little aggressive? Do they let Daniel Jones test

1025
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,040
Speaker 1: the market? I have no idea, I think. And and

1026
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: the last thing here I would just say are two

1027
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 1: more things to consider is Daniel Jones gained the complete

1028
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 1: respect of the Colts locker room from the moment he

1029
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 1: walked in the building. This wasn't This wasn't like a

1030
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,799
Speaker 1: you know, it took him like four months and showing

1031
00:48:18,840 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 1: it on the field. It's like guys were talking about

1032
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones back in the spring being like this dude

1033
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: gets it. He is all over this team. He's the

1034
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: first guy in all that. So he gained the respect.

1035
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:30,439
Speaker 1: And then for him to go out and play through

1036
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 1: the fibula for three weeks, that like that took it

1037
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,080
Speaker 1: to I mean, it's like you build like a sixty

1038
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: story building and then you build another sixty stories on

1039
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: top of it. That's where it was in terms of

1040
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,480
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones respect in that locker room, the respect he

1041
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: has from the coaching staff, from Shane Steichen, the offensive coaches.

1042
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:52,240
Speaker 1: This dude, he gave everything he had to the Colts

1043
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: this year and that goes a long way in thinking

1044
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,879
Speaker 1: about what his future might be with this team. But again,

1045
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: there's gonna be interesting their teams. And then the question becomes, Okay,

1046
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:04,480
Speaker 1: well what does the contract look like? I think your

1047
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:07,840
Speaker 1: your blueprint is the blueprint that got thrown out before

1048
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: the season even started in terms of the kind of

1049
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 1: player you know Daniel Jones could be, which would be

1050
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:15,839
Speaker 1: that Baker Mayfield Sam Darnold type. Go look at those

1051
00:49:15,840 --> 00:49:18,839
Speaker 1: guys contracts and maybe that's the ballpark we're looking at

1052
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: for Daniel Jones. I don't know. Again, there's a lot

1053
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: to consider here and a lot goes into that that

1054
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: we can't really decipher. In December, a week after Daniel

1055
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: Jones has a procedure to repair his torn achilles. But

1056
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: I do think this is not a like I think

1057
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Speaker 1: a lot of people are looking for like a black

1058
00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: and white yes or no answer for Daniel Jones. And

1059
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: what you know, is he going to be back on

1060
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: the Colts next year? There's a lot of gray, There's

1061
00:49:43,160 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: a lot of things that need to be played out,

1062
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,960
Speaker 1: and a lot of things to consider beyond. He was

1063
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:49,840
Speaker 1: having a great season and then he torn his achilles.

1064
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: So there's a lot to get into there, a lot

1065
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll get into as we get into the offseason.

1066
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 1: We hear from Chris Ballery. Right after the season, we

1067
00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: get to the NFL Combine down in downtown in Indianapolis

1068
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 1: at the end of February. That will be another big

1069
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: marker for where this thing's going. The franchise tag window

1070
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,239
Speaker 1: will be open around then, and then you get into

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Speaker 1: free agency in mid March, and we'll we'll see where

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Speaker 1: it goes. But I think the larger point here is

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Speaker 1: necessarily something that he's going to be out until mid November.

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Speaker 1: We'll see where it goes. And then Daniel Jones, like

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Speaker 1: you look at his season and I was just thinking

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Speaker 1: about some of the throws he's making, some of the

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Speaker 1: where he fitted into like a tight window almost behind

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Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. Those kind of throws are things that you

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Speaker 1: can build on as an offense, and I would be

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Speaker 1: fascinated to see if the Colts can go ahead and

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Speaker 1: build on it next year. If everything works out and

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Speaker 1: they are able to bring him back again, we'll see Julia.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for the question. Thanks for watching The Colt

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Speaker 1: Show every week. Remember if you want to get involved

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Speaker 1: in the show, get at me on social media. Drop

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Speaker 1: a comment here in the YouTube comments for this episode,

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Speaker 1: or go to Colts dot com slash mailbag. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it. For this episode of The Cult Show, we

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Speaker 1: are presented by Microsoft Surface co Pilot plus PC, where

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Speaker 1: every day is Game Day. I'll be back next week

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Speaker 1: with another Hall of Fame discussion discussion with the great

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Speaker 1: Mike Chappel, who has more insight into the Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame process than anyone else here in Indianapolis. Really excited

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Speaker 1: for that episode to kind of piggyback off this episode

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Speaker 1: with advent Terry. Thank you for listening, Thank you for

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Speaker 1: watching to this episode of The Cult Show presented by

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Speaker 1: Microsoft Surface co Pilot plus PC. Talked to you next week.

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Speaker 2: So long,