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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson. It is a Wednesday here in Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: but it's a Wednesday with a game Thursday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a Steeler game. Eve we went, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Fourteen will be upon us man. How about this little

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Speaker 1: these little nuggets from the league here too, me. So,

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Speaker 1: this will be the first game between the Steelers and

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Speaker 1: the Patriots in which one of them have had at

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Speaker 1: least five losses.

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Speaker 2: That's amazing. Since when did you say.

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Speaker 1: Since Week sixteen of nineteen ninety five.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's just how successful these teams have been.

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Speaker 2: It could be the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 1: Which they've done that a right, right, I mean.

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Speaker 2: It's not even like since December sixth, I mean it's Yeah.

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Speaker 2: While it's amazing, it's.

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Speaker 1: Also the first time a thief teams have met and

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Speaker 1: one of them had double digit losses. That was back

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Speaker 1: in Week fourteen of nineteen ninety three. That was thirty

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Speaker 1: years ago, exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I guess so.

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Speaker 1: And the Patriots were one to ten under Bill Parcells. Yeah, way,

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Speaker 1: Steelers were six and five under Bill Kauer.

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Speaker 2: Crazy crazy, I mean, it's I think everyone understands the

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Speaker 2: dominance and the unbelievable run the break that the Patriots

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Speaker 2: had for really two Brady Eras mixed into one. But

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Speaker 2: the Steelers were second, you know what I mean of

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Speaker 2: thirty two teams in terms of that era, how good

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Speaker 2: they were, they were second. I mean, that's pretty darn impressive.

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Speaker 1: I remember writing that after the Steelers lost to in

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Speaker 1: the in the two thousand and four AFC Championship to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots, that you know, now, maybe Steeler fans can

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Speaker 1: appreciate what Raiders fans felt.

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Speaker 2: Like, Yeah, absolute, yeah, absolutely, I mean.

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Speaker 1: This year, maybe you might be the second best team

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Speaker 1: in the league in that period.

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Speaker 2: I mean there's second best team of the decade. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders were probably you know, right, And.

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Speaker 1: It's just that's the way it goes. I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: only one team gets to win the championship each year.

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Speaker 2: Like I don't know enough about basketball, but like Ewing's Nicks,

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Speaker 2: that's nice. But you're in the East with Jordan, like

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Speaker 2: you came in the league like the same year or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But give or take and best of luck, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, when there's a dominant and you wonder, will

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Speaker 2: Mahomes kind of be stored to that guy, you know,

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Speaker 2: like the spit of a tangent. But I love this

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Speaker 2: conversation because everyone loves Josh Allen. You think Josh Allen's

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Speaker 2: going to win a Super Bowl? Yeah, sure, didn't. Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow is gonna win a Super Bowl? Yeah, I bet

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Speaker 2: he does. How about Lamar? How about Herbert? How about Lawrence?

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Speaker 2: How about stroud? Of them? Right? They're all in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Well, and for the answer, if you remember, there was

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Speaker 1: that stretch there that in the AFC the only quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: that went to the Super Bowl were Radelthlisberger, Brady, and Manning.

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Speaker 1: And then you threw in one.

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Speaker 2: Joe fla go at once right right, right exactly. That

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Speaker 2: was like over a decade. That was a long stretch,

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Speaker 2: well over a decade, I think, right. I mean, why

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Speaker 2: didn't Bend in more Super Bowls? Brady has them all,

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Speaker 2: it's hard when he's on. He didn't win Manning handfuls

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Speaker 2: of him, right, right exactly. So that's that's the thing.

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Speaker 2: I mean. I love that AFC conversations. I gotta love

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Speaker 2: all these young quarterbacks. Oh yeah, Josh Allen's gonna win

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Speaker 2: a Super Bowl? Oh sure, you think Mahomes is not gonna.

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Speaker 1: He's saying about you know that about Dan Marino. He'll

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Speaker 2: Of course, you know I remember that vividly. He went

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Speaker 2: as a rookie year, second year or whatever. He'll be back.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Joe battled it out. He lost, Go go

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Speaker 1: Same with John John Ellwen didn't win win his what

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Speaker 2: Right right right until he started running the ball, and

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Speaker 2: he wasn't the focal point of the team. And he's

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Speaker 2: getting to be an older guy and right.

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Speaker 1: So it's not it's not easy to do this. And

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Speaker 1: and so you know, it always strikes.

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Speaker 2: Me Rogers has won, Breeze has one one. I mean,

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Speaker 1: That's some of the other stuff. That's the league actually

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Speaker 1: kind of has had some interesting stuff here.

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Speaker 2: I hadn't even thought of that, Like with stat stuff.

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Speaker 2: Was just the greatness of these two teams over the

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Speaker 1: The Patriots have been to eleven super Bowl eleven, Now

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Speaker 2: Was only one with like East in verse eighty five Bears.

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Speaker 2: So it's ten under ten and one one stint you know, Belichick.

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Speaker 1: So here's the highest career percentage or winning percentage with

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Speaker 1: a single quarterback for head coaches.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so it's like Shulan Marino, Bradshawn Nole or whatever.

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Speaker 1: Okay, how many percentage of your career wins it came

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Speaker 1: with a single quarterback? I should say, that's.

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Speaker 2: What is So these are coach for quarterbacks with or for.

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Speaker 1: Head coaches who have at least one hundred wins. So

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Speaker 1: how many of your wins came with that particular quarterback?

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Speaker 2: Okay? I bet Andy Reid's on as high as you

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Speaker 2: think he's got a ton from the Eagles. Okay, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Leader of that is Sean Payton. Sean Payton won eighty

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Speaker 1: five point four percent of the games in his career

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Speaker 2: Where with Drew Brees, well, I would never have guessed

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Speaker 2: him in a million years, but that one percent adds

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Speaker 1: Tomlin is second, and eighty percent with Ben Roethlisberger.

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Speaker 1: Seventy three percent of his wins came with Tom Brady's quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I thought he'd been a distant one, but I guess

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Speaker 1: He's coached before that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and since right, and there's more of a time

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Speaker 1: Hank Stram won seventy point two percent of his games

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Speaker 1: since those guys haven't had since Belichick and Tomlin haven't

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Speaker 1: had the future Hall of Fame quarterback. I know Tomlin

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Speaker 1: of his He is thirty four, twenty eight and one

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Speaker 2: There's some ducks in there, Codges. They're not all first

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Belichick in his career without Tom Brady eighty

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that doesn't shock me. I mean, so the Brown

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Speaker 2: Belichick was just starting to get things right with the Browns,

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Speaker 2: and they were not that they would have become a

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Speaker 2: Powerhouse two decade long champion. But like from what i've

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Speaker 2: second third hand information was he was in over his

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Speaker 2: have just been hitting his stride as a head coach

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Speaker 2: and then stumbles into Brady. And then Brady has two

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame careers in a New England uniform, which

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Speaker 2: is unbelievable, you know, so pretty crazy. And then clearly

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Speaker 2: things have gone really crappy since Brady's left.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right, it horribly bad, Yeah, just horribly Like.

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Speaker 2: I mean, this year is epitomizing it. Last year was

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The two and ten record this season the worst

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Speaker 1: start of Bill Belichick's career as a head coach. Eleven

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Speaker 1: previously won a Super Bowl with, passing Tom Landry, who

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Speaker 1: went two, three and thirteen in nineteen eighty eight. He

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Speaker 1: is the worst record overall. So if Belichick continues down

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Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy. Yeah, I mean you think, I mean

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Speaker 2: there's fifty five. I mean there's not that many, but

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Speaker 2: there's been that many Super Bowl wins or more than that.

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Speaker 2: I forget what number we're on, but under sixty, Between

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Speaker 2: fifty five and sixty, you would think somebody gets hurt

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Speaker 2: picking first overall. You know, Like again I'm talking NBA

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Speaker 2: even though they were an awesome team, or Peyton mannings

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Speaker 2: I mean you would think that happens numerous times in history, and.

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Speaker 1: It just doesn't for whatever reason. This is why, you know,

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Speaker 1: when people were talking about Mike tom and he's lost

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Speaker 1: his fastball. This ain't Belichick bad. This is not Take

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Speaker 1: a good strong look at this team coming in here

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Speaker 1: on Thursday night, folks, right right and tell me and

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Speaker 1: tell me the Steelers are that.

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Speaker 2: Oh it's Ime Close, Simon Close. I mean, the record

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Speaker 2: mean the Steelers are favored in this game, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean six by six in a game that might

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Speaker 2: not get the twenty two points total.

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Speaker 1: I mean hill Runners thirty and they're favored by six.

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Speaker 2: So that's an implied total of Steelers win eighteen twelve

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's the implied total. I read that today.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't have figured it out.

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Speaker 1: Could be could be seven to now, it couldn't be

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Speaker 2: You're right, yeah, ye again, I read it in a

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Speaker 2: could the Steelers end up in that situation two years

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Speaker 2: from now? Sure? Any team? Could any team? I think

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Speaker 2: pay the Patriots can follow that mightily, soaking the Chiefs,

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Speaker 2: soaking the Bills, soaking the Steelers. I mean, so could anybody?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is you know to me, when when

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Speaker 1: people make the argument, well, it just blow it up.

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Speaker 1: There's no guarantee you're going to be able to get

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Speaker 2: That's a big thing too. You know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be able to keep something.

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Speaker 1: You know, there was there was talking if I think

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Speaker 1: last officer, you do, it's time to trade Cam Heyward. No, no, right,

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Speaker 1: oh you don't trade those guys. No, somebody's got to

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Speaker 1: be able to teach the next generation.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I could see a whole different story is

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Speaker 2: I don't know, trade ex player in his prime because

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Speaker 2: you can get a ton for them. But a dude

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Speaker 2: that's a little older like Hayward, that is such a

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Speaker 2: stalwart leader, the voice of and other generations before him,

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Speaker 2: that's exactly who you want.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, who's on the Patriots roster right now?

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Speaker 2: That's a good question. I'm trying to say to somebody defensively,

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Speaker 2: They always a Brady, right, and he.

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Speaker 1: Was always the okay, all Tom says, we do this,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know Tom took less money so other

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Speaker 2: I want to go there. I'll take less. I'm at

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Speaker 2: and maybe and maybe when a Super Bowl? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I don't.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, I know the cam Haigers of the world.

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Speaker 1: Can the Steelers lose this football game? Absolutely, you can

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Speaker 1: lose to anybody in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: We have recent evidence of that.

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Speaker 1: We have recent evidence. But Matt and I don't set

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Speaker 2: No, No, I think the Steelers are going to win.

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Speaker 2: I think they're the better team. I don't think there's

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Speaker 2: if it got that high, unless there's you know, punt

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Speaker 1: It could be twenty to ten. You said eighteen twelve.

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Speaker 1: It could also be twenty to ten.

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Speaker 2: But the implied total with a six point spread.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what Vegas thinks the score would be.

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Speaker 2: They're not saying it is, but that's the implied total.

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Speaker 1: So there's a got we're talking what would that be

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Speaker 1: twelve field goals in this game. It's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Ten ten field goals. That'd be fun. Yeah, ten field goals.

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Speaker 1: I should be able to divide that thirty by that.

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Speaker 2: One's not so hard. Yeah, I was. I was going

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Speaker 2: then twelve divide by four. You know, all right? So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean I don't know. The two organizations are in

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Speaker 1: I would agree with that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean they are downtrodden right now.

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Speaker 1: The Patriots took their swing in the quarterback market three

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Could that happen to Steelers a year later? Absolutely?

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Speaker 2: They're both mid first round picks. They're not. Don't destroy

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Speaker 1: The difference here between the two teams is that I

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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree.

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Speaker 1: One guy is is it? One is a guy who

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Speaker 2: But he gave some money. You went out of your

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Speaker 2: One's a seventh round pick that's had some moments, not many,

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Speaker 2: not many. Yeah, I mean last year, everyone's super excited

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Speaker 1: Come on, man, that seems like forever.

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Speaker 2: It seems like forever. Yeah. Yeah, but yeah, So, I mean, well,

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Speaker 2: any which way, I think it's inarguable. I think it's inarguable.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's not many positions I would switch with them.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't change cap space, I'll trink. I mean, I'd

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Speaker 2: talking about here. I'd rather pick it than Mac Jones

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Speaker 2: right now. I'd rather the Steelers quarterback room than theirs,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So you know, we tell you what we think

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Speaker 1: is going to happen on this show. We don't tell you.

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Speaker 1: You know, this is these are not full guarantees.

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Speaker 2: This is it's not a crystal ball, so don't get it.

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Speaker 1: People were angry at us last week. No, you said

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Speaker 1: the Steelers are going to beat the Cardinals. Yeah, us

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Speaker 2: And I picked games on a podcast every Friday for

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Speaker 2: the last twenty years. I don't get them all right.

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Speaker 1: Nobody does. We wouldn't be doing this.

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Speaker 2: I I'm not sure if I get fifty percent right.

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Speaker 2: I mean, please, don't go betting all your mortgage and

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Speaker 2: you don't. I mean, it's not to me. Yeah, you

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Speaker 1: They don't have anything to do with.

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Speaker 2: It, right, But I'm psyched for the game, kind of

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Speaker 2: I think a proud organization like the Steelers, it's more

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Speaker 2: taking lightly or any of that kind of stuff at all,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, they were embarrassed this past week.

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Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think the whole taking lightly things.

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Speaker 1: that's that becomes by everybody burn the place, that becomes

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Speaker 1: in narrative. It doesn't mean it's true. It was more

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Speaker 2: Made, absolutely absolutely. I mean they were I think they

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Speaker 2: too many mistakes, too.

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Speaker 1: Many mistakes to fumble the penalty team of them. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Not that kind of team, not that kind of team. Right.

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Speaker 1: At no point this season have we said, either of

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Speaker 2: It's not happened right, right, And to be honest, I

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Speaker 2: I just would. You know, I don't think that's going

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Speaker 1: You have some of those that you have Kansas City

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Speaker 1: He's Cincinnati, which I mean again, the Steelers just beat

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Speaker 1: help Jake Browning to ten points.

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Speaker 2: Same quarterbacks, same quarterback, love to starting to play really

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Speaker 1: You know, this happens to that. Not only did the

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Speaker 2: Right, But they lost the thirtieth team and most power

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Speaker 2: ranks beat the eleventh team. Cleveland wasn't the thirty second

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Speaker 1: Cleveland beat San Francisco with PJ. Walker at quarterback, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean these in terms of the biggest or worst

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Speaker 2: won't be a top ten, No, not even close. I

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Speaker 1: Somehow does it make the playoffs? Is everybody in Houston

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Speaker 2: Yeah, right right, we're in a playoff team if we

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Speaker 1: Worst team in the league, they only win this season.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and Eagles Jets is a great example. I mean

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Speaker 1: Yeah, number one in everybody's power rankings for about the

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Speaker 2: It does still kind of boggle my mind that people

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Speaker 2: an upset win or loss. You know, like what if

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Speaker 2: can't believe they got that win. But there's the other

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Speaker 2: side of it too. In Steeler world, it's always, oh,

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Speaker 2: we lost to a terrible team. We always played down

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Speaker 2: to our opponents. Well, there's been many times in history

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Speaker 2: quote shouldn't have, you know what I mean the other

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Speaker 1: I thought Mike de Corsi, who writes for The Sporting News,

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Speaker 1: many times Steeler fans only focus on the losses.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and instead of focusing on.

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Speaker 1: You know, what your team is doing well or what

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Speaker 1: they've done well. They're seven and.

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Speaker 2: Five right now? Yeah right now? Yeah right, they're still

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Speaker 1: How about focusing on that instead of focusing on the losses.

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 2: That was a terrible loss, terrible loss. No one's saying

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Speaker 1: You've you beat the Ravens in your only meeting this year,

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Speaker 2: You know these are these times are good guys. You

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Speaker 1: winning record in the AFC North. Shouldn't that matter to

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Speaker 1: steel I mean, you want to go out there and

437
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Speaker 1: talk to these other fans from these teams, Well, you

438
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Speaker 1: got a winning record in the AFC North in some

439
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Speaker 1: of these other programs.

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Speaker 2: Don't Yeah, and you're set up pretty well going forward,

441
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Speaker 2: you know, to get into the playoffs, so real quick,

442
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Speaker 2: just to kind of sum it up, I mean, the

443
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Speaker 2: way I see it is, I have immense respect for

444
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,520
Speaker 2: Steeler fans. I grew up a fan that was unbelievably passionate.

445
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 2: I love this fan base, and I think that they're

446
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Speaker 2: a really, really good group. But I think what we

447
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Speaker 2: try to provide is just perspective, you know, like they're

448
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Speaker 2: starting one other teams. You know, so many times I'm asked,

449
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 2: you know, the Steelers offensive line the worst in the league.

450
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Speaker 2: You know, like let me show you, you know what

451
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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm just using that as an example like this,

452
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Speaker 2: some perspective doesn't mean we're on anyone's side or anything

453
00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,160
Speaker 2: like that. It's just here's some perspective on it all.

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Speaker 2: It's not as bad as you think. It's probably not

455
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Speaker 2: as good as you think at times either.

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Speaker 1: You know, the Steelers offense this year has not been good.

457
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Speaker 2: No, no, there's no way around.

458
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Speaker 1: The one we're going to see tomorrow night is worse.

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Speaker 2: It's worse, and it's in a worse state as we speak. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean they're they're best players out. I mean they're

461
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Speaker 2: slow and quarterback problems. I mean, they have a lot

462
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Speaker 2: of issues. There's all should take advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's never I I I just

464
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Speaker 1: you know, again, trying to provide that perspective. You may

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Speaker 1: not like it. That's fine. That's if we're not your

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Speaker 1: cup of tea.

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Speaker 2: I get it, so be it right, But a lot

468
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Speaker 2: of people enjoy it. Anyways.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to a break. He is Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lollie. You're listening to the drive here

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Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right

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Speaker 1: after this. Welcome back. I am Dale Lolli. He is

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Speaker 1: the Matt Williamson and the Matt. You have the final

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Speaker 1: injury report here for both teams. For the Patriots, wide

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Speaker 1: receiver Kashawan Butte is out. Wide receiver to Mario Douglas

476
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Speaker 1: is out. That offensive lineman Riley Reef is out.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you played last week either.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, running back from Andre Stevenson is out. That's a

479
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Speaker 1: huge one.

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Speaker 2: That's huge.

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Speaker 1: And cornerback Sean Wade is out.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so not the Riley Reeves great, but they've gone

483
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Speaker 2: through a lot of offensive linemen this year, just shuffling

484
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Speaker 2: and injuries, et cetera.

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Speaker 1: He's at least a veteran guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's been a guard, right tackle, and he's been

487
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Speaker 2: around the block. At least their are lines on horrible.

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Speaker 2: It's not great. Douglas was one. I don't think. I

489
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Speaker 2: think we both thought Douglas and Stevenson wouldn't play, But

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Speaker 2: their offense would look a little different with those guys. Yeah,

491
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, if those are playmakers.

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Speaker 1: The guys who are questionable. Christian Barmore really good player.

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Speaker 1: He limited all week long with a shoulder issue. Offensive tackle,

494
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Speaker 1: their left tackle Trent Brown was limited all week long

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Speaker 1: with ankle and hand issues. He is questionable. Devonte Parker,

496
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Speaker 1: with a knee, was limited all week long. He is questionable.

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Speaker 2: Zachi throws his way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I and Juju Smith Schuster limited as well.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I mean they can't afford any weapons to be down.

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Speaker 2: But uh again, Parker seems to be clearly Zappi's favorite

501
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Speaker 2: guy Becauseki's really falling out of favor. Juju is not

502
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Speaker 2: getting much attention. Henry doesn't get a lot in the

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Speaker 2: passing game, so it's also not a high volume passing game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. On the Steelers side of things, out is Kenny

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Speaker 1: Pickett and cornerback James.

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Speaker 2: Pierre Piers was quite that serious.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, yeah, I think he maybe just wanted the

508
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Speaker 1: roster spot too for somebody else.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Rush gets a hat or yeah right.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean you got maybe you want to bring

511
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Speaker 1: Montrevius Adams back, so he's okay, we get because this

512
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Speaker 1: is that kind of game.

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Speaker 2: It is that kind of game. I think there see

514
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Speaker 2: a lot of heavy defensive personnel, which is good.

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Speaker 1: Questionable Najee Harris, he did not participate again today. I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of surprised if he doesn't play, though, he's yet

517
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Speaker 1: to much. Uh Landa. Roberts is questionable. He was limited

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Speaker 1: in practice again today.

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Speaker 2: It's better than we thought though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Mason Cole was limited again today. He's questionable. Isaac Sayamalu,

521
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Speaker 1: after taking a limited practice yesterday, did not practice today.

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Speaker 1: He is questionable.

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Speaker 2: Okay, interesting, So all those you can overcome, though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Harris is probably a game time decision kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: I think this is more of a throwing game, though.

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Speaker 1: Do you think I think they're gonna have to throw

527
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Speaker 1: a little bit in this game against a lot.

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Speaker 2: I mean, running against this teams really hard. It's hard.

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Speaker 2: It's hard, really is. It's been hard all year. It's

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Speaker 2: been harder than ever lately. I mean Austin Eckler had

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Speaker 2: like six yards or something. Yeah, might be shot though,

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Speaker 2: Oh I think he is. I think he is. But

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Speaker 2: as a team with they have like twenty six and

534
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Speaker 2: is in general, they've been stuff on the run in

535
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Speaker 2: a big way. I wouldn't mind nothing against nausea, but

536
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Speaker 2: I wouldn't mind seeing Warren start to finish as the dude,

537
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Speaker 2: you know, just see how he looks mixing to McFarland.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you could get away with it.

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Speaker 1: I will say this their EPA for their defense against

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Speaker 1: the pass, they're twenty ninth.

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Speaker 2: Let's say it's not great. They're low and sack rate.

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Speaker 2: Their corners are okay.

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Speaker 1: Right there first in every you know, EPA rush defense,

544
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Speaker 1: twenty ninth in EPA pass defense. So you might be

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Speaker 1: you might want to attack them a little bit through

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Speaker 1: the air and then try to run the football.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, that's a good call. That's a good call.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I still like Pickens and Johnson against their corners. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I think you should be able to protect reasonably. Well,

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's asking too much of Trubisky, you know,

551
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Speaker 2: just around the block.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's he played against them last year and he

553
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Speaker 1: understands what they're going to try to do to him.

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Speaker 1: You know. Uh, looking at their roster. Let let's just

555
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Speaker 1: roll down through this because I guarantee you these are

556
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Speaker 1: not a bunch of household names. No, they're not for

557
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Speaker 1: Steeler fans.

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Speaker 2: And some of the dudes are better than people realize,

559
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Speaker 2: you know, it's just kind of how they are.

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Speaker 1: Uh. At wide receiver, we'll take out the guys who

561
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Speaker 1: aren't going to play, Uh, Devonte Parker, Taekwon Thornton, Jalen Rigor,

562
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Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster, Matthew Slaters, and time in Gumpery.

563
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Speaker 2: He's a special team or the time.

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Speaker 1: Montgomery doesn't factor into their passing game either. So it's

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Speaker 1: really it's those four guys. DeVante Parker, Taekwon Thornton, Jalen Reger,

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Speaker 1: Juju Smith Schuster. Might be four guys who couldn't beat

567
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Speaker 1: me in a race.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Wellon would do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Thornton, I have better hands than him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he was drafted to two rounds earlier than he

571
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Speaker 2: should have. He's kind of a slighter guy. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Parker's always been a contested catch guy and he's been

573
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Speaker 2: good at it. But now he's getting up in age.

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Speaker 1: He's got a knee issue.

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Speaker 2: But like, this is one of the problems I have

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Speaker 2: with Belichick and this team. Like they extended him not

577
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Speaker 2: long ago. Yeah, gave him double down on it, right, Like,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're you're saying you're happy with him as

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Speaker 2: your number one receiver. He's like Alan Robbinson.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I was just gonna say, is he any different

581
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Speaker 1: than Alan Robbins.

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Speaker 2: No, he just lines up on the outside instead of

583
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Speaker 2: the inside. I mean, he's a physical dude that doesn't

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Speaker 2: run great. Yeah, I mean he wouldn't play much yere. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Juju's right. He was never a good separator.

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Speaker 1: And so I saw this in the stat package, seeing

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Speaker 1: the majority of his snaps are coming playing on the outside. Yeah,

588
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Speaker 1: and he's only seeing thirty of his snaps and slop

589
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Speaker 1: because they're never they never run three miss.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing. So last week when they were in

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00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 2: three receivers set with Douglas out, those three played like

592
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Speaker 2: entirely the whole time. But when it's two, it's Juju

593
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 2: and Parker and Douglas plays the slot. Yeah, and Juju

594
00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: is not an outsiders he never was as a rookie.

595
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Speaker 2: He never was on his best day. He doesn't get

596
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Speaker 2: off pressman coverage. Well, it's why he's bounced around the league.

597
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Speaker 1: So I'll take the Steelers' receivers all day long against that.

598
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: The offensive line is Trent Brown. Now, they were rotating

599
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Speaker 1: him with Connor McDermott.

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Speaker 2: On his best day. He's a good player. What he

601
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Speaker 2: showed last week, he looked like he was really struggling.

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Speaker 1: You got Cole Strange at left guard, fine, you got

603
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Speaker 1: David Andrews at center city sell at right guard, Mike

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Speaker 1: on a Win who at right tackle?

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Speaker 2: I think it's close, to be honest with you, I mean,

606
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Speaker 2: Andrews is not a Pro Bowl type guy, but there's

607
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Speaker 2: something to be said for an old school Veterans Saul.

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Speaker 1: He would be playing for the Steelers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think Strange is a good young player.

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Speaker 2: I don't know he's better than either one of the

611
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Speaker 2: Steelers guards, assuming we're Cole and Seal mal Lou about her.

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Speaker 1: I saw her big from Pro Football Focus. He was

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Speaker 1: one of the guys rated at ninety year above last week?

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Speaker 2: Was he? I thought he played quite well. I focused

615
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 2: on him quite a bit. I thought he played quite well.

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Speaker 2: Tackles are about a tie. I mean, if we were

617
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Speaker 2: drafting them, I'd take Dan Moore last, but I might

618
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Speaker 2: take Roger Jones first, especially going forward, of course, one

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Speaker 2: who's a good player. He might be better as a

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Speaker 2: guard that's kind of forced into tackle. He's played a

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Speaker 2: lot of different spots. Trent Brown, his current condition isn't great,

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Speaker 2: but you see.

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Speaker 1: He's got to be over thirty at this point.

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Speaker 2: Oh he's got to be. Yeah, I mean he's this

625
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: is second stint with the Patriots. Yeah, he was a

626
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Speaker 2: Raider for a while.

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Speaker 1: He made a lot of money. He's kind of like.

628
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 2: Orlando, humongous human being.

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Speaker 1: He's a big, heavy footed left tackles that people keep

630
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Speaker 1: giving money to, but they're never good enough to say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're going to keep this guy long.

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00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 2: Term, exactly exactly, And it's hard to stay in your

633
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 2: best tip top shape when you're that big, too, and you're.

634
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Dealing with ankle's hand injuries, and it's.

635
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Speaker 2: Just hard on the body. He's had a good career.

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Speaker 1: At tight end. It is Hunter Henry, Mike Kiseki, and

637
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Speaker 1: Pharaoh Brown.

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00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: I know nothing about why they don't like Kasecki at all,

639
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:20,880
Speaker 2: but he hardly even sees the field.

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00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 1: Kiseki and Pharaoh Brown are both pass catching.

641
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Speaker 2: Both pass catchers, but they'll play a lot of thirteen.

642
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: Henry's fine. I'd rather friarmooth yea, and I would take

643
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Speaker 2: the other two over there other two, I would think.

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Speaker 1: If I am, if I'm Bill O'Brien, yeah, you know,

645
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:40,160
Speaker 1: I'm coordinating the Patriots offense going into this game. I

646
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: want the Steelers to have their base defense on the field.

647
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Speaker 2: Oh, I agree, two linebackers.

648
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Speaker 1: I want both. I want those two. I want your

649
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: two inside linebackers on the field, because if you go

650
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 1: to nickel or dime situations, now you maybe only have

651
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: one of those guys on the field.

652
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: I know he's not great, but they don't have a

653
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 2: lot of options. I would feature Hunter Henry more than

654
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 2: they have too, and he's still not a bad player.

655
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: McBride's a better player than him, but you just saw

656
00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: McBride have a lot of success against these guys. I

657
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: would try to get the ball to Henry in the

658
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 2: middle of the field, especially against two linebackers.

659
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 1: I would try that. But if I'm the Steelers, I'm

660
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: putting minkaf Fitzpatrick on Hunter Henry and.

661
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 2: If he starts getting to be the focal point, yeah,

662
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,000
Speaker 2: So I mean kicking this around and I don't think

663
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 2: it works, so I hesitated to even bring it up.

664
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 2: But this team is big and physical and wants to

665
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: run the ball. Would you consider basically two noses Adams, Benton, Ogan,

666
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 2: Jobie and Hayward outside them with a six man front

667
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: and your two edge guys out there, and just one

668
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: linebacker for defensive backs, you know, like play a three

669
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 2: to four with a nose instead of an inside linebacker.

670
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 1: Basically, I would consider it, especially if they start running

671
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: the ball effectively, because Elliott just don't want them to

672
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: run the ball. I would want all their linemen covered

673
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: up exactly. Yeah, and then you know, allow what and

674
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 1: we're into or Highsmith to beat somebody and make, you know,

675
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: make some plays behind the line of scrimmage.

676
00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 2: And I mean the problem with that is, dare them

677
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 2: to throw the football. You don't want to rush six

678
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 2: every play, so you're dropping high Smith or Watt more

679
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 2: than you'd like to. But they're okay at it. You'd

680
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: be big and physical, You're begging them to throw, and

681
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: they're just struggling so bad to complete passes. That's my

682
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 2: thought process on it. And I'd love to have one

683
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: linebacker on the field.

684
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Ye. No, I don't hate it. Yeah, I don't hate

685
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 1: it at all. Uh, it's Zappi and Max Jones at quarterback.

686
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: That's all they've got on the roster.

687
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:26,080
Speaker 2: Though.

688
00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: I would assume they'll they'll bring up Malik cunning Him.

689
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: I would assume so for this game. In fact, I

690
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: would be surprised if we didn't see Malik cunning Him

691
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 1: behind center. I bet he throws a foot. In fact,

692
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 1: that's one of my guarantees. I'm gonna get let this

693
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 1: out of the cat out of the bag here. One

694
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: of my guarantees for tomorrow the pregame show is that

695
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: somebody other than the two starting quarterbacks.

696
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I would definitely take the over on that.

697
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: And that's a Belichick thing too, Like Troy Brown used

698
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 2: to throw a lot of passes and yeah, I could

699
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: definitely see that. Does Juju happen to have an r

700
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 2: or zeke? I think it's throwing one or two in

701
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,960
Speaker 2: his career. Yeah, And definitely Cunninghams.

702
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, wouldn't wouldn't surprise me at all.

703
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 2: And then quick on mac Jones, Yeah, I would love

704
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: to see him go anywhere really, Like I didn't like

705
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 2: him coming out of bed. I'm sure he would would too.

706
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 2: But like if he could do the sit behind Matthew

707
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 2: Stafford for a year, move and maybe rejuvenate his career

708
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,000
Speaker 2: and be the twentieth best quarterback in the league. I

709
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: mean right now, he just looks like a shell of himself.

710
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Yeah PTSD, Yeah, it's just shell shocked. Yeah, yeah, shell shocked.

711
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: Running back well Novermandre Stevenson. So that's Ezekiel Elliott and

712
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: Jamichael hasty.

713
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: Stevenson I might put ahead of Warren or Harris and

714
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: would certainly be in the same tier. I really think

715
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: he's a good player. Those guys, though, are not close.

716
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: I mean, Zeke's had a great career, may end up

717
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame someday, great respect for him,

718
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: great teammate, picks up the blitz, can catch the ball.

719
00:32:58,360 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: He just doesn't have juice anymore.

720
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: Yeah. In fact, I might even put it's taugh it's

721
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: a tough call. Anthony McFarland ahead of Jamichael Haystes me.

722
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 2: Too, I was They're the same to me, basically, right right,

723
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 2: I agree with that, Like they wouldn't mind having McFarland

724
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: right now, No, they wouldn't.

725
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,680
Speaker 1: Uh. I'll take what the Steelers have right now there too.

726
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 1: I'll take the Steelers over with with Trubisky in, Rudolph

727
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: over Zay, over Zampi and Jones.

728
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: Me too, if any of them have a solid career

729
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: as a starter, I'd still bet on Jones. But the

730
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,480
Speaker 2: version we're seeing now and he's not even starting.

731
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,959
Speaker 1: Ten ten touchdown passes, fourteen interceptions this year, it's brutal.

732
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah.

733
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: Uh, And they just don't make enough plays to make

734
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: that many mistakes.

735
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 2: No, it'd be different if you were run around, you know,

736
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 2: eighty yards rushing in it's giving game. Just the fields,

737
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 2: you know. I can live with that.

738
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: Right on the defensive line, Uh, key on White, Devon

739
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 1: gotcha guy, Lawrence or Lawrence guy should say.

740
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 2: White's not like those guys though. I mean we remember

741
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,120
Speaker 2: White coming out of George Attach he would be in

742
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: a quote outside linebacker here, but he's like two seventy.

743
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: He's been really good for that.

744
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,200
Speaker 1: He mixes into that with Dietrich Wise. Christian Barmore is

745
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: in there. I mean, they got a nice they got

746
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: a rotation up front.

747
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 2: So if we just go defensive front, you're taking the Steelers,

748
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: of course. But Barmore to me is I mean I

749
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 2: would trade Gogajobi straight up for him. I wouldn't Benton,

750
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 2: but because I love him right now. But their front's

751
00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: very good. I mean, no one knows who Dietrich Wise is,

752
00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 2: but he is a very solid Belichick dude. Godshaw and

753
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 2: their nose tackle types are hard to move in the

754
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: run game. They always have those massive not will fork,

755
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 2: but the three and thirty pounds DT not an NT necessarily.

756
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 2: That just let everybody run and run and hit behind them,

757
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,479
Speaker 2: because a big thing they like to do, certainly last

758
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: five years, is they'll have two detachs that are super heavy,

759
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:06,360
Speaker 2: you know, like Sam Adams and Sarah Gusa types. You know,

760
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 2: just let Ray Lewis run. And they always have a

761
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 2: linebacker that's heavy because they'd love to live and nickel

762
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: and even die back in the day. There's want a

763
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: lot of safeties and stuff running around and that that

764
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 2: that Beef lets them do it, and they rotate a lot.

765
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: At the linebacker position. It's Amphony Jennings with Joshua backing

766
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: him up.

767
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 2: He's more of an edge, yeah.

768
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: Situational pass rusher.

769
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 2: Juwan Bentley, he's played a lot for him and he's

770
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 2: a thumper.

771
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Jilani tay I.

772
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: I mean, I'll take those guys over what Steelers are

773
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: playing with right now, right now.

774
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: Bentley's now if we're going to consider what highsmith into

775
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 1: that group.

776
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: No, I was calling them the edges and the dealer.

777
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 1: But they'll play like they're playing Mac Wilson on the

778
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: edge a little bit this year.

779
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 2: M Okay, it's not really his bag, but yeah.

780
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean they're just they're searching for them.

781
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 2: They're searching.

782
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: They don't have a pass rush either. They don't have

783
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,840
Speaker 1: a true natural Their best pure pass rusher might be

784
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,319
Speaker 1: bar More that.

785
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's definitely Jude On but we were talking.

786
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 1: Off the he hasn't placed since week four.

787
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 2: He's leading the team in sacks with Barmore and I

788
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,239
Speaker 2: think it's Bentley. They only have four and he hasn't

789
00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 2: placed in week four. Hes still there leading sacker. I

790
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,440
Speaker 2: mean he's good. I mean he could play for anybody,

791
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 2: but it's they miss him. The only average two sacks

792
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,280
Speaker 2: a game. It's like twenty eighth in league or something.

793
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: At cornerback, it's Jonathan Jones, J C. Jackson, Sean Wade

794
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,760
Speaker 1: won't play in this game. That means you're probably looking

795
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: at maybe seeing some Alec Austin out there. He was

796
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: a free agent this year.

797
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:34,000
Speaker 2: He's have three Jones is now I think they're down

798
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:34,319
Speaker 2: to one.

799
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,719
Speaker 1: Down to one, and then the nickelback is Miles Bryant.

800
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 2: Okay, so one Jones got himself in trouble. I think

801
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 2: he took a gun on a plane or something not

802
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,719
Speaker 2: real bright. And then the other Jones I loved was

803
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: their second round pick last year. That he's great returner, slot,

804
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: little dynamic, and I think he's out. I forget which jones,

805
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 2: I get all their jones is.

806
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: Confused, can't keep up with their joneses.

807
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 2: I'm under reported story. By the way, while we're talking corners,

808
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,000
Speaker 2: Patrick Peterson's had a much better last five games in

809
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 2: the first five games.

810
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not They're asked him to do some different things.

811
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think he's coming around. And they're playing

812
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 2: Wallace a lot less. They're playing Porter a lot more.

813
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 2: Porters better than all their dudes. And yeah, I would

814
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: take the steels corners.

815
00:37:18,920 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: Uh, it's safety. It's Kyle Duggar. I love him and

816
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: Jabil Peppers.

817
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 2: They've gotten more out of Peppers than any other stop.

818
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 2: I mean remembers him at Michigan and with the Browns

819
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 2: and the Giants. Well, he's a Belichick recyclable project that

820
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 2: does a lot of stuff. Dugger to me is a star.

821
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,399
Speaker 2: Like maybe if I could steal anyone off their team,

822
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 2: if I could put him next to Minka, you know,

823
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 2: like I mean, he's two twenty and runs like a deer.

824
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: He's a really good player, but Minca carries a lot

825
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 2: of weight at Casey's not a slouch. I mean, I

826
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 2: still take Casey over Peppers. There's not many safeties that

827
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 2: take over Dougger, but Minca is definitely one of them.

828
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. So, I mean that's that's what you're looking. And

829
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,160
Speaker 1: then rookie punter, rookie player, and their kicker is bad

830
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 1: bad had Roland is bad, bad bad. They drafted him

831
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: in the fourth round.

832
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 2: Did they draft the punter?

833
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: Uh, he was a sixth sixth round pick.

834
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, he drafted a pick and they drafted both.

835
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: They drafted a punter and a kick on this roster.

836
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:15,240
Speaker 1: We just went to the roster.

837
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 2: Yeah.

838
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: Maybe it could have taken a fourth round wide.

839
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: Receiver, yeah, or any kind I mean, even as Dell went.

840
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: In the fourth round. Yeah, I mean I went in

841
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: the fifth round.

842
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, even like a Shane Vereen pass catching

843
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: running back. Those guys don't have one of those. Either

844
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 2: of those either somebody that catches the ball that makes

845
00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: a miss, they can run. What's funny to me is

846
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 2: we've always talked about Dvoa and Belichick and the Ravens

847
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 2: are always best in the league and special teams, well,

848
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 2: last year was the anomaly. They were like thirty second.

849
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,440
Speaker 2: So what's he do. I'm gonna go draft my kicker

850
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:52,720
Speaker 2: and my punter. Well they're not good, worse worse, right,

851
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 2: Like they didn't fix the problem at all despite trying to.

852
00:38:55,640 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's their roster. I means not many household names.

853
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: There typically aren't a lot of household names.

854
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:04,680
Speaker 2: I mean, even like in the McGinnis Rabel year as

855
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 2: it took them a while to become Like I.

856
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: Remember sitting there and Ray Board just when I did

857
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,440
Speaker 1: the the the Hall of Fame vote, and Ray Borges

858
00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 1: from the from the Boston whatever. He's from the Boston market.

859
00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 1: He's presenting for the for whatever guy they had up

860
00:39:19,239 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 1: it was Seymour that year. He said, look right now,

861
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: the Patriots of the early two thousands had like two

862
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: guys in the Hall of Fame. They're gonna get Belichick,

863
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,360
Speaker 1: they're gonna get Brady. But we're looking at some of

864
00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: these other teams out there. This this Tampa Bay team's

865
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,879
Speaker 1: got five guys in. They won one Super Bowl.

866
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, a great argument.

867
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: So basically what we're saying is that it was Tom Brady,

868
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick and a bunch of slappies that won the

869
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

870
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great argument. I'm like, what's funny tho.

871
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: It is a lot of borderline guys, you know, Like

872
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: I thought Seymour should go and he did. I think

873
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: Will Fork should go. I don't know if he Wills.

874
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 2: It's tougher nose tackles. Really we'll get in. But he's

875
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: a later generation what we're talking about. High log got

876
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 2: in great, But I didn't think he was a slam dunk.

877
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 2: But part of that's the beauty of Belichick is getting

878
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 2: the most out of the team. You know, in their heyday,

879
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: they were really good at it. Rabel McGinnis, those guys

880
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:14,920
Speaker 2: aren't Hall of famers to me.

881
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. But we're gonna get

882
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 1: through another break. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dalelawlly.

883
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884
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890
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893
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Speaker 1: Tis the season everybody. Everybody likes a little more Steeler

894
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Speaker 1: gear for their.

895
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Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, put that in your stocking. Gotta love that.

896
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Speaker 1: You could get a Steeler stocking.

897
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 2: Steeler stocking and then stuff it with Steelers, good little

898
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 2: stuff and then put big stuff around the tree. A

899
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: lot of Steeler gear floating around the city. Yeah, well there's.

900
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 1: Heck of a lot of it. And again that's the

901
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:20,399
Speaker 1: we appreciate that from the from the fans. It's pat

902
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: they're passionate, they are.

903
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: It's good stuff. You know.

904
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: If they don't care, we don't have a show. So

905
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 1: uh looking at these numbers here on the on the

906
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Patriots again, looking at the EPA stuff. Offensively, the Patriots

907
00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: past EPA is thirtieth.

908
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's only because the Jets exist. And I

909
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 2: bet Carolina Steelers are twenty fourth, yeah, which you understand.

910
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, rushing EPA they're twenty fourth.

911
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 2: New England. Yeah, they don't break long runs. They don't

912
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 2: make they don't have any business tea. Yeah, that that

913
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 2: hurts for sure. They're pretty consistent at getting yards from

914
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: what I gathered, but they're the worst explosive plays in

915
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: the whole.

916
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: I think they've got like fifteen plays of twenty or

917
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 1: more yards all season. Yea, Yeah, the Steelers are twentieth

918
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: in rush EP, which is kind of surprised that, but.

919
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: I think that's definitely going.

920
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's from earlier in the season. Uh. Patriots run

921
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: sixty four point seven percent out of the shot or

922
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,799
Speaker 1: the shotgun sixty four point seven percent of the times,

923
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: the Steelers at sixty seven point eight So that's pretty similar. Unusual,

924
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: The under center rate isn't all that different. You get

925
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 1: the Patriots at thirty three point five percent, the Steelers

926
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: are at twenty six point seven percent. The difference is

927
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: that the Steelers run out of the pistol formation.

928
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, play action.

929
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: Patriots run eighteen point eight percent play actions twenty that's

930
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: twenty six in the league.

931
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: Steelers Steelers are at.

932
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: Fifteen point one percent. That's thirty first in the league.

933
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: But that's moved any other I don't know what happened

934
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 2: last game in that regard, but going into or coming

935
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: out of the Bengals game, the Steelers had run sixty

936
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 2: one play action passes and nine of them are in

937
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: that game. Big chunk were recently.

938
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Speaker 1: Yeah, using motion, the Patriots use at fifty eight fifty

939
00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: eight point five percent of the time. That's ninth most

940
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 1: in the league. The Steelers are at fifty four point

941
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 1: seven percent, that's fourteenth most. So both of these teams

942
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: on the upper end of using motion pressure rate allowed,

943
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,680
Speaker 1: they don't allow, surprisingly enough, don't allow a lot of pressure.

944
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: Thirty three point eight percent, that's eighth best in the league.

945
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: Steelers are at thirty five point seven percent, that's thirteenth

946
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 1: in the league.

947
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 2: That's certainly trying the right way too. Yeah, that that

948
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: started real way down right.

949
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm kind of surprised, and maybe this is They've

950
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: they've got a lot of offensive linemen on their roster.

951
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: They do, and they drafted like two or three they picked,

952
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:45,759
Speaker 2: then they trade for one or two.

953
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,560
Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, they carried I think eleven or twelve into

954
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:51,799
Speaker 1: the regular season and one quarterback and one quarterback. Yeah,

955
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: they actually put they exposed Zappi to waivers.

956
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I just want to make sure if I knew

957
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 2: that before kickoff.

958
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 1: Right, using six offensive line and the Patriots have not

959
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: done it once this season.

960
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,440
Speaker 2: Wow, I mean they are heavy in thirteen, but that

961
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: surprises me that they haven't done it once.

962
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for a team that wants to run

963
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: the football as much as they do.

964
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Speaker 2: And then a good receivers, it's not that they're keeping

965
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 2: Moss and Welker off the field, right.

966
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: The Steelers are using it at one point one percent

967
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:16,239
Speaker 1: of the time.

968
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Speaker 2: It's all recently though, fourteenth in the league. Yeah, it's

969
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 2: all recently. We saw Chukes go in and you.

970
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: Know, uh, two plus running backs on the field. Patriots

971
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: do that three point one percent of the time.

972
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 2: Okay, they don't know. I mean like a Landon Roberts

973
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: use to play some fullback for them. Yeah, yeah, they

974
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 2: don't think they use the fullback, you know, as much

975
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:35,239
Speaker 2: as they used to.

976
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: The Steelers are at one point five percent of the time.

977
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 2: That's twenty fourth as they would have to do.

978
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: The league average is ten point two. But that's really

979
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 1: skewed by the teams.

980
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 2: That's at either do it or you're dumb. Yeah, and

981
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: it's I think it's more coincidence than anything. The Steelers

982
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: have faced a lot that do. Yeah, so they've seen

983
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, twenty one to.

984
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 1: Your point about two tight end two plus tight ends

985
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,280
Speaker 1: on the field. The Patriots at forty seven point three percent,

986
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 1: that's second most see the league.

987
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 2: That's pretty darn't high.

988
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: Yeah. The Steelers are at twenty three point eight percent,

989
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,120
Speaker 1: that is nineteenth in the league.

990
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: I also think that's going up though, since Friarmuth came back.

991
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, that part of that was the right one

992
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:13,839
Speaker 1: of the things that uh.

993
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,399
Speaker 2: That's been a Patriot thing for a long time. Yeah,

994
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: Gronk and Hernandez, and they valued them problems.

995
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: Their tight ends aren't as good as Gronky Hernandez.

996
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 2: And they signed Johnny Smith and Henry, not that they

997
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 2: would be Gronking Hernandez.

998
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:27,800
Speaker 1: That's what that was the immediate Oh, they're getting to Bronkin,

999
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: Henry Gronking.

1000
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 2: No, it's not what they're trying to Yeah.

1001
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 1: I mentioned the team defense. Patriots average pass e p A.

1002
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: They are plus point oh two, that is twenty ninth.

1003
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 2: And to be negative in that a lot like DVO.

1004
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: Steelers are minus point one four, that's ninth best.

1005
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,520
Speaker 2: In the league. Ninth best past defense. Interceptions have a

1006
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,360
Speaker 2: lot to do with that complete percentage.

1007
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, win a lot of downs when the balls in

1008
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: the air.

1009
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:53,840
Speaker 2: Because of it.

1010
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, big plays, Uh, average rush e p A. Patriots

1011
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,000
Speaker 1: are minus point two. Oh that leads to one. Yeah.

1012
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: The Steelers are minus point eight, which is fourteenth.

1013
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: Yeah you don't take that.

1014
00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1015
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1016
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:10,879
Speaker 1: Blitz rate. The Patriots thirty four point six percent blitz rate. Now,

1017
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: as I mentioned, I believe I mentioned this yesterday, their

1018
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: last five games when they've blitzed opposing quarterbacks have a

1019
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 1: one to seventeen passer rating against it.

1020
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: Torture them, Yeah, torture, And so they're they're doing it.

1021
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: They're coming seventh most percent, highest percentage in the league,

1022
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: but it's not being super successful. But that's what they

1023
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,799
Speaker 1: kind of have to do to pass run.

1024
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 2: They don't have great individual pass rushers that Jude on out.

1025
00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: And that's kind of been a Belichick thing too. I

1026
00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:39,000
Speaker 2: mean he's often had a revis or a Gillmore and

1027
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 2: then brings a house. Yeah. Yeah, but one of the issues,

1028
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,120
Speaker 2: I mean, this is more of a historical thing, but

1029
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 2: it also applies to Steelers. These teams have been so

1030
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: good that you can't draft Chase Young advice, you know,

1031
00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 2: down to the bottom everything right, and pass rushers go,

1032
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 2: and same with offensive tackles in corners, and they've actually

1033
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,240
Speaker 2: had to go outside the organization for Revus and gilmore

1034
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 2: like you either got to stumble in one like a

1035
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 2: Watt or somebody like that that falls late. But those

1036
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: guys go in the top ten, and when you're good,

1037
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: you can't get them.

1038
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:10,799
Speaker 1: Uh. Base defense, Patriots run their base defense, whatever that

1039
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: may be, three four.

1040
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,720
Speaker 2: Or fourth three, it just means four defensive backs.

1041
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, four defensive backs in the field twenty seven percent

1042
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,400
Speaker 1: of the time. The Steelers, Yeah, thirty seven point two

1043
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: percent of the time. That's first in the league.

1044
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: The first I know they're very low in nickel.

1045
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,800
Speaker 1: They face so many of those teams to use a fullback.

1046
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. And I also think some of it is

1047
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 2: they don't love having two linebackers on the field, right,

1048
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: I mean you either have two with the heavy or

1049
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: let's just go to dime.

1050
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. So that's basically what's going on here. And it's

1051
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 1: kind of the same with the Patriots because they're thirtieth

1052
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: in nickel defense at forty three percent. The Steelers are

1053
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: thirty first at thirty seven point four percent.

1054
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: So both these teams are either heavi or light yeah,

1055
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 2: and which I mixed feelings about. Ideally, you'd love to

1056
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,120
Speaker 2: have Fred Warner and roqe. One s without there, you

1057
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 2: don't have to be, but there's not many of them.

1058
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: Dime defense, the Patriots do it twenty six point six

1059
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: percent of the time, that is second highest percentage in

1060
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: the league, whereas the Steelers are at twenty point five percent.

1061
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,600
Speaker 1: That's fifth highest in the league.

1062
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: Okay, I bet it's not on there, but they also

1063
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,800
Speaker 2: over the last three or four years, I can promise

1064
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: you are number one the league in seven defensive backs

1065
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: on the field. I don't know how much they've done

1066
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 2: it this year, but that's better.

1067
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: I don't think they have the defensive backs to get't

1068
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: do it necessarily.

1069
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 2: But that's something they have done a lot over the

1070
00:48:21,000 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 2: last couple of years.

1071
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Two heavy man teams. Patriots are thirty nine point one

1072
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: percent of the time, that is fifth. The Steelers are

1073
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 1: at thirty nine point seven percent of the time. That

1074
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 1: is fourth highest, which means zone coverage Patriots are twenty eighth.

1075
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: It's sixty point nine percent. Kind of shows you like

1076
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,359
Speaker 1: even when they say it's a heavy man team, it's

1077
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: still sixty forty.

1078
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: It's still yeah, it's not even fifty fifty five.

1079
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're twenty eighth. The Steelers are twenty ninth in that.

1080
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: And then single high save real.

1081
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 2: Quick on the man stuff. Deontay's great verse man Pickens

1082
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 2: is still better verse man than zone patriotson and man beaters. Yeah,

1083
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:57,280
Speaker 2: I mean they really don't. I mean they don't have separators,

1084
00:48:57,320 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 2: they don't have man beaters.

1085
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 1: Uh, Single high safety. The Patriots play that sixty point

1086
00:49:02,320 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 1: three percent of the time, that's eighth in the in

1087
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: the league. The Steelers are at sixty three point eight

1088
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 1: percent of the time.

1089
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: And higher that's fourth. Yeah, and it's not always maka yeah.

1090
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: And then the split safety with too high safety. It's

1091
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: thirty one point eight percent of the time for the Patriots,

1092
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 1: which is thirtieth in the league, and the Steelers are

1093
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: at thirty three point seven percent of the time, which

1094
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 1: is twenty seven.

1095
00:49:21,560 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 2: So you're gonna get, man, you're a single high You're

1096
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: gonna get you know, You're it is going to have

1097
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 2: to be.

1098
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna look a lot like what for for mis Trubisky.

1099
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: It's gonna look a lot like playing against the Steelers defense. Yeah,

1100
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:35,800
Speaker 1: in terms of what they're how they're going to deploy things.

1101
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 2: It's an aggressive style. I mean, these are two defensive

1102
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 2: head coaches that know what wins in this league and

1103
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 2: they I'm sure if he would love to have a porter.

1104
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,520
Speaker 2: That's why he traded back for J. C. Jackson. I mean,

1105
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,200
Speaker 2: they're looking for corners. They've they always invest in corners.

1106
00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 2: They're just looking for them. Now.

1107
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 1: You know what's going to be interesting here is that

1108
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: with the Patriots playing heavier man coverage than most teams.

1109
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: Trubisky's more mobile, good point.

1110
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 1: Than most quarterbacks out there. Wouldn't it prized me if

1111
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: he runs for twenty five or so yards?

1112
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah? And then even their linebackers aren't j Ok Warner Yeah,

1113
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:08,879
Speaker 2: you know, like track you down no matter.

1114
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: He's a good athlete.

1115
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 2: He is. He's a good athlete. Maybe even some designed runs. Yeah,

1116
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 2: So you're in there. Interesting see how that goes.

1117
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to another break that's going to do

1118
00:50:16,719 --> 00:50:19,799
Speaker 1: it for our number one. He is Matt Williamson. I

1119
00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: am looky, I am Dan Lalli. I don't know what

1120
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: I'm looking for, but we're looking forward to getting on

1121
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: to our number two here on the drive right after

1122
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 1: this