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Speaker 1: Wow, fantasy freaks and geeks. What's up? We welcome me

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Speaker 1: and the NFL Fantasy Life Podcast. James Co here with you,

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Speaker 1: joined alongside by the Wide Receiver Progna Ska of the

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Speaker 1: Pride West for the creator of Reception, Perception, it is

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Speaker 1: Matt Harmon. What's up? What's up? Man? You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: happy to be here, happy to be talking. I think

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be a fun show today. We've got a

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Speaker 1: lot to talk about. Uh is it gonna be a

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Speaker 1: fun show? Because Alex Kalhar is not here? I said

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Speaker 1: to Marcus. I said to Marcus, coming up here, like,

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Speaker 1: Alex is not on this pod? Nothing stopping me now

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Speaker 1: the take breaks are off stopping me. I we were talking,

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Speaker 1: Robinson like, all kinds of things that I'm actually interested

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Speaker 1: in talking about. We we could talk for this could

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Speaker 1: be a two hour podcast. Oh boy, oh boy? Sorry? Sorry,

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Speaker 1: crew behind podcast. Who's gonna keep us on? Try? Nobody? Nobody,

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Speaker 1: that's who? Nobody? MG, my guy, Mark's Grant in the building.

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Speaker 1: What's up? So I guess I guess I have to

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Speaker 1: go see a movie about fish sex. Now, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 1: I mean it won all these awards, so now I gotta,

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Speaker 1: I guess, because usually like I don't. I'm never one

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Speaker 1: of people who has to rush out and see all

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Speaker 1: the Oscar movies like ahead of time. I'm not trying

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Speaker 1: to handicap the whole thing. I'll just back and watch

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Speaker 1: the show and then I like figure out what wins

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Speaker 1: the awards, and I determined I that's the movie that

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Speaker 1: so the Shape of Water look good. T it looks

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Speaker 1: like an SNL parody, Like it's like a digital short.

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Speaker 1: I was waiting for Andy Sandberg to pop up in

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Speaker 1: some of the clips. Oh really, I I like the trailer.

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Speaker 1: I like, well, first of all, I like the shooting

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Speaker 1: just watching the clips that they showed on the Oscars,

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Speaker 1: only talking about the movie trap. Yeah, but I guess

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Speaker 1: I want to go see it because it won a

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Speaker 1: actually have a love making scene in that movie, like

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Speaker 1: just trying to crack this guy out of there. No,

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Speaker 1: everything I've heard says like the fishman and the woman

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Speaker 1: we got Sully behind the glass chipping there and Christina

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Speaker 1: that's the name of this. Uh oh, here we go.

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Speaker 1: We got Sully stuff, guys. I can't I can't take

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Speaker 1: credit for that. I would just getting into your eye

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Speaker 1: I like that. I saw that, saw that on on

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Speaker 1: that it was It's like a it's like a hashtag

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Speaker 1: making Oscars movie a porn title, and I guess, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Sully will take any chance to get to get on

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Speaker 1: the mic. Yeah why not. I just missed talking to

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Speaker 1: you guys, but not on the pod. That's a good point.

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Speaker 1: The last time you were here was the disastrous episode.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, post franchise Goodbye do you showed up three

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Speaker 1: How are you doing? Back again for a week two?

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Speaker 1: Back back back again. I think you're our producer going

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Speaker 1: Now that's the way this arrangement. How you doing this morning?

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Speaker 1: us here. Today we're gonna break thing, break all things

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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson Jaguars related. Today. We've got the great Mike

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Speaker 1: in the program, so we will talk all things Alan

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Speaker 1: break down all the happenings there in Duval. With Mike

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Speaker 1: as we always do, with your top fantasy headlines. The

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Speaker 1: rumor Mill that was sick. That was the best one

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Speaker 1: we've had. The rumor Mill has the Vikings reportedly offering

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Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins a three year, ninety plus mill in dollar

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Speaker 1: contract with fully guaranteed money. You mean, like an echo

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Speaker 1: like scheme, personnel, all of those things, and it's it's

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Speaker 1: Um but Sammy Watkins not getting tagged not necessarily huge

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Speaker 1: Where do you think he may go? Marcus? I want

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Speaker 1: That's like where you where you you like a girl,

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Speaker 1: imagine there isn't a team out there that would do that.

425
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Speaker 1: That's why not using the transition tag makes so little

426
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Speaker 1: sense to me. All Right, So when I when I

427
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Speaker 1: saw that, you know the team wasn't gonna put a

428
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Speaker 1: tag on Alan Robinson. My mind immediately went to, Okay,

429
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Speaker 1: is the a c L still a concern for the organization.

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Speaker 1: Are you getting a sense that maybe he hasn't fully

431
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Speaker 1: recovered from his injury. No, I he's making really good progress. Um.

432
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Speaker 1: For the interview, we walked up three flights of stairs

433
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Speaker 1: and he was fine. So there's that he constantly is

434
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Speaker 1: putting out videos on the social media that he's doing

435
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Speaker 1: bunny hops and all these things in his rehab. I mean,

436
00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 1: he's not back yet. Uh. And there's always a concern

437
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Speaker 1: with an a c L. Tare, especially for a guy

438
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Speaker 1: who uses the leaping ability like he does. Uh. But

439
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Speaker 1: I don't get the sense like he's concerned about it.

440
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the team's concerned about it. What

441
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Speaker 1: I think the issue is is he had a quote

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Speaker 1: unquote down year in two thousand six team where he

443
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,800
Speaker 1: didn't really have any chemistry with Blake Bortles, came in,

444
00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: had a great training camp, and then he tears his

445
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Speaker 1: a c L. And you only have three snaps under

446
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Speaker 1: this new Newish regime U with Doug Morone and Tom Coughlin,

447
00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:21,240
Speaker 1: Mike's Harmon here. I've I've been following you obviously for

448
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Speaker 1: for a long time, and especially the last couple of days.

449
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Speaker 1: You know, you've you've mentioned that the Jaguars still have

450
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Speaker 1: an exclusive period of negotiation here with Robinson for the

451
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Speaker 1: at least the next couple of days. What do you know?

452
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Speaker 1: I I know percentage chances are stupid, but what what what?

453
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Speaker 1: What's the percentage chance that you think he's back with Jacksonville?

454
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Speaker 1: Is it's straight zero or or what? Let's go? I

455
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Speaker 1: think you can look at his options. Why wouldn't you

456
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Speaker 1: test free agent? Do what your market is. I just

457
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Speaker 1: that's what's so perplexing about this is you know, we

458
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Speaker 1: talked about the legal tampering period it, but if you're

459
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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson, why agree to a deal before you hit

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Speaker 1: free agency if you have the opportunity to hit free

461
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Speaker 1: agency when you know that you know as well as anybody,

462
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: this free agency class is not very good. You've got,

463
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Speaker 1: I mean, you've got Paul Richardson, whose best year is

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Speaker 1: sub part of Allen Robinson's quote unquote bad year in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and sixteen. You have Sammy Watkins, who's basically

466
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Speaker 1: had the same career as Allen Robinson was a higher

467
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Speaker 1: draft pick um who two teams may now quit on. Uh,

468
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Speaker 1: And then you've got Mark Keith Lee and like Taylor Gabriel,

469
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Speaker 1: who are nice like two or number two or three pieces.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's just Allen Robinson is the best looking

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Speaker 1: girl to dance. You may have a mustad, he may

472
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Speaker 1: have a mustache, but you're willing to make the You're

473
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Speaker 1: willing to make, you know, the best of the situation.

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Speaker 1: I just think he is by far be named to

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Speaker 1: watch on the wide receiver market, and nobody can convince

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Speaker 1: me otherwise. Mike, I want to know what dances you're

477
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Speaker 1: going to broet a lot of relationship advice, But Mike,

478
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Speaker 1: I mean, if if Allen Robinson gets away, what is

479
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Speaker 1: there a contingency plan at wide receiver for the team.

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Speaker 1: That's what's hard to figure out. I think if Robinson

481
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Speaker 1: were to leave, they would hold on to Alan hearns Um.

482
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Speaker 1: They really, really, really like D. D. Westbrook. D D.

483
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Speaker 1: Westbrook to everyone was a Marquis Lee backstop, like he

484
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Speaker 1: was going to be the guy that has over for

485
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Speaker 1: markis Lee. When Markisley inevitably walked and I was convinced

486
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Speaker 1: Marquis Lee was gonna walk entering this offseason now with

487
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Speaker 1: Allen Robinson potentially leaving town Um and the jackwarsoning the

488
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Speaker 1: twenty Nights pick, which I've been told they're going to

489
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Speaker 1: go very, very strong at the offensive line in the

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Speaker 1: draft and maybe not as much in free agency as

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Speaker 1: you would expect. So if they're waiting till the second

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Speaker 1: round and they're can get a guy like Dante Pettis,

493
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Speaker 1: that's great, but he can't be relied on as the

494
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Speaker 1: number one right away, and so I think you have

495
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Speaker 1: to figure out how you feel about Mark Easley. Maybe

496
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Speaker 1: you give him, uh, you know, the old Jeremy Macklin

497
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Speaker 1: one year, six million, eight million dollar deal, and then

498
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Speaker 1: he's a stopgap for a year while Pettis and whoever

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Speaker 1: you draft and d d and all of them get better.

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Speaker 1: Because the reality of the situation is three of the

501
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Speaker 1: top four wide receivers on this roster under contract, we

502
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Speaker 1: played one year of football in the NFL. Let me

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, Mike, And this might be

504
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Speaker 1: like way too meta of a question, but I kind

505
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Speaker 1: of get the feeling that Jacksonville right now is it's

506
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Speaker 1: sort of like they're buying in too hard of the

507
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Speaker 1: success of last year and like, hey, well we got

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Speaker 1: to the a f C Championship Game without Alan Robinson.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we don't need him that much, you know, buying

510
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Speaker 1: into that identity of like what we got Leonard four Nette,

511
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Speaker 1: We're gonna be reinvest in the offensive line, but you

512
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Speaker 1: do need to feel a competent passing in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: Am I am I way off on that or do

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Speaker 1: you kind of get the sense that that might be

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Speaker 1: how they're approaching the situation too. I think that's fair, um,

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Speaker 1: and I think that some that would come off as arrogance.

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Speaker 1: But I think what Tom Coughlin is always said is,

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Speaker 1: you know, this is a new regime. I know David

519
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Speaker 1: Codwell's here, but you have to prove it to Moron,

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Speaker 1: you have to prove it to Coughlin, uh, that you

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Speaker 1: can be successful. And when you only have three snaps

522
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Speaker 1: under under that regime, it's impossible to prove yourself. So

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Speaker 1: maybe it's that they value what they know and not

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Speaker 1: what they don't know. UM. I could see if it's

525
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Speaker 1: becoming an issue for a lot of people in the

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Speaker 1: locker room because Allen Robinson is one of the most

527
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Speaker 1: like guys in that locker room. So is Aaron Colvin.

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Speaker 1: And if you're not going to pay your internal talent

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Speaker 1: um when you're bringing in a J boyer for a minute,

530
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Speaker 1: for you know, Malik Jackson, Clay's Campbell. Obviously those guys

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Speaker 1: have played well since you brought them in tape been

532
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money on free agent, and they finally

533
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Speaker 1: have guys that deserve this money. They paid Telvin Smith

534
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Speaker 1: with a deal. If you look at it really isn't

535
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Speaker 1: as beneficial for Smith as it is for the team.

536
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,520
Speaker 1: They've re up some other guys. But I just think

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Speaker 1: Blake that the Blakes extension was very team friendly, right,

538
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: very team friendly. I thought it was a great deal.

539
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 1: It meant that you could resign Colvin and Robinson and

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Speaker 1: then still look for a big free agent guard or linebacker.

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Speaker 1: And and the thing is that this weird guys. When

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Speaker 1: you look at the way that this roster is set up,

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Speaker 1: a lot of them are Dave Codwell's additions, a lot

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Speaker 1: of Dave Cadwell's picks, and Dave Cuddles does not like

545
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Speaker 1: getting rid of his own guys. He is very loyal

546
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Speaker 1: to draft picks. So one would assume that Tom Coughlin

547
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Speaker 1: has a lot of say and perhaps not franchising Allen Robinson.

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Speaker 1: You know, we spent a lot of time talking about

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Speaker 1: the passing game here, but I mean, on the flip side,

550
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Speaker 1: if do they feel like they can field enough of

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Speaker 1: a competent passing game to help open things up for

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Speaker 1: the before n I mean we saw he saw a

553
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: lot of loaded boxes this year. Do they feel like

554
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Speaker 1: they have the pieces in place to kind of make

555
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: things easier for their prize running back? Well, I don't

556
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 1: know if they can. They can feel that way. If

557
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: you watch the a f C Championship game, they relied

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Speaker 1: on Corey Grant is the top receiving option for the

559
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 1: entire first half, then moved away from him and that

560
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,240
Speaker 1: was the only time they were really moving the ball consistently.

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Speaker 1: Still confused about that, all this time later, I'm still

562
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Speaker 1: confused about that second half. Why Why did they go

563
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 1: away for Corey Grant? I don't know, No one knows.

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Speaker 1: I mean only Nathaniel Hackett and Doug Moron probably don calls.

565
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:43,520
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you know what the same here, But

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Speaker 1: you know the thing is for me, You've got Alan Hearn,

567
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: who I think his reputations kind of falling off because

568
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: the injuries. But he's like one of the most consistent,

569
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Speaker 1: uh you know, number three wide receivers in the league.

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Speaker 1: He's got good hands. The problem is that he's not

571
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Speaker 1: a natural flot guy, and I think that's been one

572
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: of their issues. They don't have that guy that really

573
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Speaker 1: work the slot to it to like the best degree.

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Speaker 1: As a word, none of these guys are natural. They

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00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 1: had Brian Walters in there, who's done the best out

576
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Speaker 1: of any of them, and he, you know, he's a journeyman,

577
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: got a big deal, but he was a natural flot guy.

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Speaker 1: A lot of the guys that they're using, DD Westbrook,

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Speaker 1: Keeling Cole, those guys are more boundary wide receivers, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they have that guy that they

581
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: could go to across the middle consistently enough. You have

582
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 1: markueth Lee running, you know, crossing rests all game, but

583
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't think he's comfortable doing that. So they have

584
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 1: to figure out how they can get the ball into

585
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: the middle of the field and move it, you know,

586
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:47,160
Speaker 1: take avenge of these linebackers and these safeties, um, which

587
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: means they also need to have a pass catching tight end,

588
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,400
Speaker 1: and I believe they will address that and not only

589
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Speaker 1: free agency, but the Draffe. It's interesting. Mike Kay from

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00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: First Coast News, great information. As always follow him on Twitter.

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00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 1: I kind of people find your work man. Well, you

592
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: can follow me on Twitter at the most obnoxious Twitter

593
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 1: name ever, Mike underscore e underscore k y e. Look,

594
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: the underscores were before I became big league, so I

595
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: gotta keep with them or else you lose the check mark. Um,

596
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: and then you can check me out on First Coast

597
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,600
Speaker 1: News dot com. Like I said, I'm doing this piece

598
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: on Allen Robinson. So if you're a fan of a

599
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: team like San Francisco and New York, I've kind of

600
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: built the bible on Allen Robinson. It's a it's a

601
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 1: year by year perspective and now focusing on the off season.

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00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: There you go. That's there you go. If you're not

603
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 1: following him on Twitter for Jackson News, you're not doing

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00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: it right. Mike k from First Coast News, Hey, Mike,

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00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 1: we appreciate the time. Thanks. Thanks alright, So some interesting

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00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,200
Speaker 1: information certainly from Mike there, um, you know, talking about

607
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Speaker 1: potentially keeping Alan Hearns. I just to me, that's a mistake.

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00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean at the price anyways, because he he's do

609
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: seven million bucks next year. I mean, I get that.

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Speaker 1: If you franchise Allen Robinson, it's gonna cost you what

611
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: thirteen million. I mean to me, it's worth it. I

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Speaker 1: just I'm I'm baffled by the move. Um, And it's

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Speaker 1: it's like you said, Matt, I just don't understand. Look,

614
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: you got a field at least a threat on the outside,

615
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: and yeah they got to the n f C Championship game.

616
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: They played well, but adding a guy like Alan Robinson

617
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: could legitimately take you over the top. I just I

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00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: don't understand it. Yeah, Mike said it best that in

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Speaker 1: this free agent market there, I think there's a lot

620
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 1: to like out there in these guys, but they're all

621
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: like potential reclamation projects, role players. If there's one guy

622
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: that's shown he can, like over a over a good season,

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Speaker 1: that he can be a number one receiver, Domin and

624
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Speaker 1: Alan Robinson. I mean, even though the team was a

625
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: down year volume wise, he's still commanded number one receiver attention,

626
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,640
Speaker 1: get the workloads. So he's definitely a difference maker. Another

627
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: Jacks beat writer, Ryano, Howard Ryano Holleran put out a

628
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 1: pretty good piece about the fifteen reasons why this is

629
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: maybe a questionable move. Uh, and he noted in there

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Speaker 1: that he still thinks that Robinson is the best player

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00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: on the offense Leonard for Netta side, and I would agree,

632
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: like in terms of a week to week difference maker,

633
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:22,479
Speaker 1: he still as an elite player at least potentially. So

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Speaker 1: it's a fourteen and fourteen How the hell? I mean,

635
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,560
Speaker 1: come on, yeah, it's it's a confusing move. And if

636
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: if he's gone, their passing game is just you know,

637
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: some of these guys that I think we're all interested in,

638
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: like a D. D. Westbrook, especially Healing Cole, like they

639
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: then get thrusted into roles that you know, maybe for fantasy,

640
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna get some stock up because target wise, but

641
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: I don't think that they're ready to handle. All right,

642
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 1: So we are on a fantasy podcast. Uh, I you know,

643
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: you hear about Allen Robinson potentially moving on from Jacksonville,

644
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: My mind immediately starts to thinking about fantasy. My mind

645
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: immediately starts to thinking about, Okay, well who fills that rule?

646
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: So Keelan Cole and Deeed Westbrook from weeks twelve to seventeen,

647
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 1: nearly identical targets and air yards. If you were just

648
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: talking about pure volume, okay, targets, Keel and Coal had

649
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: forty three. DD had forty five air yards. Again this

650
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,719
Speaker 1: is uh the last six weeks of the season here, Uh,

651
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: Keelan Cole had five fifty three air yards. D D.

652
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:17,560
Speaker 1: Westbrook five hundred sixty air yards. Now the production was different, okay,

653
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 1: Kel and Cole led the way in yards and touchdowns

654
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: with five hundred and five yards receiving yards and three

655
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 1: receiving touchdowns. Meanwhile D D. Westbrook had three hundred and

656
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: four receiving yards and one receiving touchdowns. So Cal and

657
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: Cole led the way. But if we're talking about volume now, okay,

658
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: and projections you know, really center around volume targets and

659
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: air yards. Both Keelan Cole and d. D. Westbrook very

660
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: very similar in that offense they are. But you know,

661
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: as as Mike mentioned, and I think we heard a

662
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: lot of it last year too, that the Jags love d. D.

663
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: Westbrook they do, and they want him to be the guy,

664
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: and he d loves himself some d D. Hey why not?

665
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:02,760
Speaker 1: And maybe maybe that is the kind of the Galaxy

666
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,000
Speaker 1: brain thinking here in Jacksonville that we let Allen Robinson

667
00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: go and we developed D. D. Westbrook. I mean maybe

668
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: it's a maybe it's a you know, we're gonna trade

669
00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 1: Monte Ellis to develop Steph Curry sort of things that

670
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: you know that that guy's going on down. Okay, I

671
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: gets what you're saying. I mean, like, I don't know.

672
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: That's That's all I can think because here it is.

673
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 1: You are a team that was in the a f

674
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: C Championship game and maybe you played above your head

675
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 1: in in some respects, but you can't let key pieces

676
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 1: go and expect this to happen again. So maybe they

677
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: believe that D. D. Westbrook is that guy and they

678
00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: pair him with Blake Mortle. I just it's crazy to

679
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: me because Allen Robinson is a little bit He's like

680
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: in a racer. You know what I'm saying, You make

681
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: a mistake. Maybe Allen Robinson is the guy that a

682
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 1: racist that mistake. You know what I mean? Um, you

683
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: talk about playing over their heads. I don't know necessarily.

684
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:48,319
Speaker 1: I mean their defense. Your defense did not, but their

685
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,480
Speaker 1: their defense is built to last. Although I will say,

686
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: Calais Campbell, you really I mean he was crazy. He

687
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: was insane last year. Yeah, I don't know if you

688
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,560
Speaker 1: can go into teen saying, well, look old as Calais

689
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 1: Campbell is gonna give me that season again. I just

690
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: I just don't know. By the way, you know, it's

691
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: fascinating to about D. D. Westbrook and Keelan cole To,

692
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:12,719
Speaker 1: like both of those guys are they're older for rookies,

693
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:18,399
Speaker 1: I know, right P franchise, he's that expressive. But they're

694
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: both twenty four years old. Allan Robinson is multiple years

695
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: in the league years old. It's just it's just strange

696
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 1: as they're letting such a dynamic young talent test the market.

697
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: And I do think he's a testa market. So but

698
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 1: I want to ask you guys actually going to be

699
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: writing a piece about my favorite picks for his landing spots,

700
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: just real life based, not fantasy. But where do you

701
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: guys think his best spot that he could end up

702
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: because I think he's going to test the market. San Francisco.

703
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: San Francisco is a great spot for him, you know,

704
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 1: I mean it it really he would, I mean just

705
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,439
Speaker 1: lock into that offense, right because he's the clear cut

706
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 1: number one mark. He's good one on the outside. Trent

707
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,839
Speaker 1: Taylor pierres coming back though, really like they're not gonna

708
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: let him go. Yeah, yeah, no, they they're not. No,

709
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: it sounds like he's coming back, coming back. They paid

710
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 1: him a pretty decent amount of money and he was

711
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 1: playing well before he got hurt. Well either way, Uh,

712
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: I think Mark he's good when to me anyways, Profiles

713
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: is a better, you know guy on the outside opposite

714
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 1: of Alan Robinson. I still love Pierre man well either.

715
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: Even if they wanted to go, you know, three wide receivers,

716
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: you've got you know, Pierre Garcon working the inside a

717
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 1: little bit, which I think he can still do very well.

718
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 1: Trent Taylor obviously is a depth piece as well. Um,

719
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean he really locks into that offense

720
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: pretty nice. Look, Baltimore needs wide receivers. Gonna say Baltimore

721
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: that they seem like a team that they kind of

722
00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:41,839
Speaker 1: understand that they've hit on free agent wide receivers much

723
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 1: more than they have on draft picks. Uh. And I

724
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,719
Speaker 1: think if they've been so bad at drafting wide receivers,

725
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 1: some teams just can't do it. I mean the Patriots

726
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: are the same way, Like they consistently whip on these

727
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: draft picks, and then that's why they're like, well, we'll

728
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: just go send a first round pick for Brandon Cooks,

729
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: get you. But I think Baltimore is an interesting fit

730
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: to me as well, because what Joe Flacco does well

731
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: is he does throw a nice deep ball. He just

732
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 1: hasn't had anybody to go and get it, you know

733
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: what I mean. So, um, I wasn't like, well, I

734
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 1: was supposed to be that guy. Wasn't that why they

735
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: got Mike Wallace? Don't got why they got Jeremy Macklin

736
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: was was toasted. Wallace kind of had a decent year.

737
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: He did have a decent year, but I mean he

738
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: wasn't necessarily I mean, they had him doing so many things. Yeah,

739
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: he ended up carrying much more the brunt of the

740
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,759
Speaker 1: receiving work. I mean there there, they just have no

741
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: depth there. If if they cut if Wallace Watson free

742
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: agency and then they cut Macklin, they're looking at like

743
00:37:35,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: this is the year. If they aren't even talking like that,

744
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: they're like this is I think make or break and

745
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: make or break chance great great stuff. So yeah, just

746
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I think Baltimore is a pretty good He's he could

747
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:55,359
Speaker 1: walk into a hundred in Baltimore, Chicago. I think will

748
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 1: be in the mix. Yeah, that for for fantasy purposes. Anyways,

749
00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a great fit for him because

750
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: it's like Mitchell Robinski still learning on the job. I

751
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I guess you could say, well,

752
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:07,480
Speaker 1: they're gonna be behind a lot. Yeah, but I think

753
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: Carolina will be in the mix too. There are another

754
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: one to watch out for because they definitely need to

755
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: overhaul their receiving corps. I think he and Cam Newton

756
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: stylistically would fit well together because Robinson was in his

757
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: best year. He was elite, an elite deep threat. Over

758
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:23,920
Speaker 1: fifty percent of his yards came on deep passes, So

759
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 1: I think that's definitely a spot to look out for too.

760
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 1: And I mean that would be I wouldn't really enjoy that.

761
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: There you go, two worlds colliding, so it definitely won't

762
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: happen again. We appreciate Mike Kay joining the program. Let's

763
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 1: talk combine the NFL scot combined um se Kwon Barkley

764
00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 1: was a star, right yeah, just an absolute animal. Um

765
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: or whether we're talking about the bench press, what we're

766
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 1: talking about vertical leap, whether We're talking about forty yard dash,

767
00:38:57,120 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: three colors, all of it. He was amazing. He looked

768
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: great in passing drills. I mean, se Kwon Barkley just

769
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: looked amazing. And then you pair that with the game tape,

770
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: and then you pair that with the draft capital you

771
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: start thinking about all these things. I I had fired

772
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 1: off on Twitter dot Com that I think, in fantasy

773
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:22,000
Speaker 1: drafts next year, se Kwon Barkley, regardless of team as

774
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 1: we sit today, is a top ten pick in fantasy.

775
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: Is that a hot take? Yea or nay? I go nay.

776
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't think I would spend a top ten pick

777
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 1: on him. But I think by the time we get

778
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: to you know, August, that will be a lot of

779
00:39:37,480 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: the buzz around see Kwon Barkley, that he'll be Because

780
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: for as much as we know fantasy wise that running

781
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 1: backs can sort of be found in a lot of

782
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:50,600
Speaker 1: different places, there is still that desire to get a

783
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: guy you think can be that game changer. And and

784
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: maybe he is. Uh, he certainly has the ability, but

785
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,760
Speaker 1: I think people kind of desirous of that potential production

786
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: will reach into the top ten hoping he can be

787
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:06,320
Speaker 1: a level Bell or a Zeke or you know somebody

788
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: like that. Do you still think that, uh, David Johnson

789
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:15,720
Speaker 1: will be a top five pick five? Yes, yes, bad

790
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: offense bro, I know, but he's still gonna get pummeled

791
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:23,600
Speaker 1: with volume, especially receiving touches too. Yeah, I think he

792
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: still will be on Kwan Barkley. I think back to

793
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 1: the Zeke phenomenon from a couple of years ago, going

794
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 1: in like early drinking me in our last generational back, yeah,

795
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,720
Speaker 1: our last, our last, Oh my god, we got to retire.

796
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 1: We gotta get rid of that. You've got to get

797
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 1: rid of once in a generation because it means literally

798
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: once in the damn generation. Can't even even for them

799
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 1: to be like, this is the next Adrian Peterson? Who

800
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:57,080
Speaker 1: is Yeah? Also yeah, Urnt was that guy? Seek? Was

801
00:40:57,120 --> 00:41:01,359
Speaker 1: that guy? You can't do this at two years? We're

802
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: getting like every every year now it's it's a joke.

803
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: But so that aside, I think back to that situation,

804
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: like in early drafts and like MFL tens and the

805
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: real sickos out there that the draft, before the NFL Draft,

806
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,439
Speaker 1: Zeke was going in like the third round. Uh, and

807
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: then when he got launched up to the first round

808
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,759
Speaker 1: based on his landing spot with the Cowboys, which was

809
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 1: this the perfect soil to grow a great running game.

810
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 1: I think it does depend on where Barkley lands, because

811
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: if he goes to Cleveland at the top of the draft,

812
00:41:32,719 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: which is a whole separate discussion, no thanks, I'm not

813
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 1: taking it. I don't care how good he is. I'm

814
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,279
Speaker 1: not taking it back on that offense in the top

815
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: ten picks, honestly, probably in New York, maybe Denver, I

816
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: don't know. This is this is uh, this is It's

817
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,080
Speaker 1: just it's tough. It depends on landing spots. I think

818
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: it's also fair to remember the reason Zeke was a

819
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 1: top ten pick immediately was because of the line. He

820
00:41:57,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: was put behind because for Net didn't have that. Uh,

821
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 1: Girly didn't really have that, but z we we all

822
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:07,120
Speaker 1: looked at like best prospect again with the best offensive line.

823
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: Girly also was coming with an injury too. He was

824
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,800
Speaker 1: what he missed the first three games, two or three games,

825
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,839
Speaker 1: I think a lot more than that, but whatever. But yeah,

826
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 1: so it depends on landing spot. The good thing about

827
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:19,839
Speaker 1: Barkley is that he is supposed to be a great

828
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: pass catcher, so I think he'll have a great floor.

829
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I'm really excited. I mean, you can't

830
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: not be excited about him. And I expect by the

831
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,359
Speaker 1: time if he's a Cleveland Brown, I'm taking him top ten.

832
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I don't care. I don't care, because

833
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: here's the thing. You talk about offensive line. They don't

834
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 1: have a bad offense, No they don't. They have a

835
00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: good offensive line. They have a bad head coach, and

836
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:44,080
Speaker 1: I think I think the play calling, the overall offensive effectiveness.

837
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: I weigh that stuff way more than I do an

838
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't really I don't really know how

839
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: to outside of a special situation like Dallas, I don't

840
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 1: really know how to like equate that percentage is like

841
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,799
Speaker 1: into a projection for I. I know that we talk

842
00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,880
Speaker 1: about it and we will always talk about it, but

843
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: I don't know how to say, like, Okay, this is

844
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,840
Speaker 1: a great offensive line. Now, this makes a huge difference.

845
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: I think just it's it's overall touches and the efficiency

846
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: of those touches. And I don't believe that if Cleveland

847
00:43:09,719 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: passes up a quarterback or or or he's the running

848
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: back for a freaking a J McCarron led offense like

849
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: that I'm really gonna trust that these are gonna be

850
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: efficient touches. So that's where I stand on All right,

851
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: there you go. I'll still take him a top to

852
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: let's go, um, Calvin Ridley, Man, you brought up a

853
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 1: great point, Matt Harmon. Calvin Ridley just bombed. He absolutely

854
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 1: bombed the combine. I don't know. I felt like because

855
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: he ran a good forty that it got kind of washed,

856
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like people only pay attention

857
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 1: to the forty and it's like, what a four four

858
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: five forty, which is totally respectable. Um, but again, I

859
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: just I think in every other metric, I don't think

860
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:54,000
Speaker 1: he did well. You look at his vertical leap horrible

861
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 1: what was or something? It was? It was real bad

862
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 1: for his size. Forget it. I was gonna like that.

863
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 1: That was the first. The first red flag was when

864
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:09,959
Speaker 1: he measured in at one. And so just a couple

865
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:13,400
Speaker 1: of sites to recommend to check out these like combined

866
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 1: results in terms of their overall like percentile and how

867
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: they relate and composite scores. De Athletticism mock draftable dot

868
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: com does a really good job with collecting these same

869
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: with three stigma athletes, and you know you can. You

870
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,839
Speaker 1: can say what you want about Spark and like what

871
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: it what it measures or whatever, But I just think

872
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: it helps give you kind of a ballpark. I mean,

873
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 1: it's not the end all be all for a player,

874
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 1: but Calvin Ridley in Spark, which composite scores all of

875
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: their athleticism together and measures by waiting everything, he was

876
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: the seventh percentile. Seventh. I'm looking I'm looking at it

877
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:44,560
Speaker 1: right now. Unlock draftable and it will give you comparisons

878
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 1: who these guys, who they're measurable sort of matchup. Uh.

879
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: The only recognized that there are two recognizable names on

880
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: this list. Uh. One is Pharaoh Cooper because he's in

881
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 1: the league right now and still relatively recent. The other

882
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 1: Lavernius Coals, which isn't a terrible comparison. But first laugh

883
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 1: call is good. Let's go through the let me I'll

884
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: go through the name the other names on this list

885
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: and tell me, you know whether you remember these dudes.

886
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: I've never heard of any of them. Herb Hay good. Nope.

887
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:19,439
Speaker 1: Talman Gardner, come on, bro, Talman Gardner sounds like, I mean,

888
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: that's that's somebody from Game of Thrones, from Florida State,

889
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:31,720
Speaker 1: O J. Murdoch, Jaris McIntyre, Donny Hart, Donnie Hart, Roshan

890
00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:35,839
Speaker 1: Scott's I do actually recognize that, but that's but he's

891
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 1: just because I followed the draft. Mark Quay McDaniel, Mark

892
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 1: Quay McDaniel is definitely an East West Bowl from Jackson,

893
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,160
Speaker 1: Flex and Wax and you know what um And then

894
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 1: Keenan Howry, who I remember it or I remember him

895
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,399
Speaker 1: at Oregon, I don't remember him at all in the NFL.

896
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:54,360
Speaker 1: You could have made up every single one of those.

897
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: Those are those are great creative player names, great creative

898
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,520
Speaker 1: player names. But I I so with Calvin Ridley, I'm

899
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:07,760
Speaker 1: going into this process. He was the consensus number one receiver. Yeah,

900
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: the guy that was the top everybody's board, no question,

901
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 1: in a pretty decent gap between him and one and two.

902
00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: And the funny thing is, I still think that most

903
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: people feel that way about Calvin Ridley. But I look

904
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: at some of these other numbers. Fifteen reps on the bench,

905
00:46:21,680 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: which is okay, whatever, butte vertical, that to me was

906
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,439
Speaker 1: that's a big red flag. The broad jump even worse

907
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 1: is at the second percent. So in his pro days

908
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: today too, I don't. I haven't seen the results yet

909
00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,960
Speaker 1: from that, and I think it will be important to

910
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,799
Speaker 1: kind of maybe see if he improves a little bit

911
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: and me he could have just had a bad day.

912
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:41,719
Speaker 1: It happens. But so with Calvin Ridley, I've charted him

913
00:46:41,719 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: for reception perception, I've checked that out. You have a

914
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 1: lot of drops too. Well. He's not not a good

915
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 1: contested catch receiver. He's really similar to like a Mari

916
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Cooper in that way that he's a great separator all

917
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: across the field, really dangerous vertical threat, which I mean

918
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 1: you could see he's got good straight line speed and everything,

919
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,480
Speaker 1: but I just didn't. After looking at him on film

920
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: and looking at some of the other top guys in

921
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,960
Speaker 1: this class, I think there's easily an argument that he's

922
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 1: maybe the second or third or fourth best receiver in

923
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: this class. I don't think there's any gap between him

924
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: and some of these other guys, especially after seeing him

925
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: tests to combine. Still really like him. Still overall, you know,

926
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: hashtag trust the tape on this one. But do you

927
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: though like No, I do I because I think he's

928
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:27,360
Speaker 1: he was really good on film again separating an outside receiver.

929
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: I don't think he's a number one, but I don't

930
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:31,959
Speaker 1: know that any of these guys are number one. There's

931
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:34,640
Speaker 1: a couple of guys that I think, I'm excited could

932
00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,879
Speaker 1: go down that path. But I think he's I think

933
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,920
Speaker 1: he's more like a really good solid number two receivers.

934
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,919
Speaker 1: That's where that's where I would put him. I think

935
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: the what arm and said part of what he said,

936
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: and I feel like it's the caveat we give after

937
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: the combine every single year. It's that if you watch

938
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 1: a guy and you have a feeling about him, then

939
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: suddenly the combined numbers are kind of like we can,

940
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 1: I will say, discount them completely, but you're like, I

941
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: like what I saw on tape. You know, if if

942
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: you love a guy and it's come by numbers are great,

943
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: then suddenly you value he's validated. Like if you like

944
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: Calvin Ridley and he would have just come and just

945
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 1: at the at the combine, people who have just been

946
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 1: oh my god, Calvin Ridley is the next you know,

947
00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown or all that kind of stuff. So yeah,

948
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: it's just how much do you want to weigh it?

949
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean what really matters is for fantasy,

950
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: especially he is just where he's, where he's going to

951
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:26,279
Speaker 1: get drafted and who he gets drafted by. But so yeah,

952
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:28,000
Speaker 1: so I in the end, I just think it's worth

953
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 1: a discussion. Uh, it was definitely a red flag, although

954
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,280
Speaker 1: overall I still think I like him as a player.

955
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: But there are other guys in the class I'm definitely

956
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 1: more excited about. Okay, so a couple of guys I

957
00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:41,640
Speaker 1: really like after after he was so ready for them.

958
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: So this this class, I know it's it's supposed to

959
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: be not a good wide receiver class, and I get it.

960
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 1: There's no a J Green Julio Jones type prospects that's

961
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:52,600
Speaker 1: going to go in the top ten picks, and I

962
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,799
Speaker 1: totally agree with that. But guys like d J. Moore

963
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: who was had a great combine. Uh, Courtland Sutton was

964
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 1: another one guy out of love him. Yeah, Southern Mississippi

965
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: or I go. But he's definitely a player that I'm

966
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 1: really excited about right now. He's he had a good combine,

967
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:13,720
Speaker 1: a great three cone drill, and I think he reminds

968
00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 1: me a lot of like Damarius Thomas, somebody that still

969
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
Speaker 1: needs a lot of work in terms of their route

970
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: technique and everything like that. But great after the catch,

971
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:28,040
Speaker 1: especially for somebody. Yeah, physical specimen. And also another guy

972
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: that I'm I'm really excited but I think might be

973
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: like my favorite player that I've seen so far is

974
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaker 1: Equinimius st. Brown got the best name. I'm gonna go

975
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 1: with just e Q yes By. But he's a guy

976
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 1: that had not a great last year Notre Dame statistically,

977
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 1: but that's pretty easy to spot why after you watch

978
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: him the quarterback play there not great. Um, he reminds

979
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: me a lot of like a Martavis Bryant. He's big

980
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: play threat, absolutely dangerous, gets open at all levels of

981
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 1: the old. He will make some mistakes with drops and whatever,

982
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 1: but I think he's also super dangerous in the open field.

983
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: This is a player and he went out. He didn't.

984
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 1: The only thing he did I think was the was

985
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 1: the four yard dash, but he ripped off a four

986
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,400
Speaker 1: four eight at six four. See, James is making the

987
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 1: making We're agatting. We're getting James excited here anytime we

988
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:25,920
Speaker 1: go sub four five baby, and especially especially somebody that

989
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 1: that checked in at like six four or whatever. So

990
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 1: he's he's definitely somebody that I'm I'm really excited about

991
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 1: a six four wide receiver with sub four or five speed, Yes,

992
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,000
Speaker 1: four four eight and he measured in at six four

993
00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 1: and a half. And come on, let's go. I think again,

994
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: this is a group that we're like, not sure, is

995
00:50:45,840 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: there a number one receiver? Probably not a definitely not

996
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna go in the top ten. But

997
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: I think if we're looking at players that could fulfill that,

998
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 1: I think you're looking at Sutton and I think you're

999
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,479
Speaker 1: looking at st. Brown as as sort of those guys

1000
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: that that checked the prototype box. Is d J. Moore

1001
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:03,840
Speaker 1: is more of that. Uh, he's under He's like a

1002
00:51:04,040 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: he's so the comp that eats easiest to make his

1003
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: golden tape. They play exactly the same guy. They get

1004
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 1: open in the same areas on the same routes, and

1005
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: they're really good with the ball in their hands. Just tough,

1006
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: physical badasses. Like I really like he's He's somebody that

1007
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: could draft in the late first round. And maybe they're

1008
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 1: never gonna get an elite outside wide receiver, but you're

1009
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna get You're gonna get a golden take catch ninety

1010
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 1: passes for years in a row. So he's These are

1011
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,440
Speaker 1: the players so far that have have made me really excited.

1012
00:51:32,520 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: And honestly, I can hear arguments for listing any of

1013
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:36,839
Speaker 1: those guys ahead of Ridley at the point. But that's

1014
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that that when I look at a

1015
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,800
Speaker 1: guy like Calvin Ridley, who again played for a dominant

1016
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:43,959
Speaker 1: football team, that you had to I mean, you had

1017
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,799
Speaker 1: to stack the box and stop the run, you had

1018
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: to um single a lot of single coverage on the outside.

1019
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 1: You I mean, I'm I'm sure you've you've scotted the guy,

1020
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: but uh, to me, at least on first glance, it

1021
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 1: would seem as if Calvin Ridley saw a lot of

1022
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:02,919
Speaker 1: single coverage on the outside it and to me, it's that's. Look,

1023
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 1: if you're if you are any kind of receiver worth yourself,

1024
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: and you're seeing single coverage on the outside and you've

1025
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:12,480
Speaker 1: got and the quarterback has all day to throw, wow,

1026
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:14,759
Speaker 1: you know you might be a pretty productive wide receiver. Yeah,

1027
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: he's just but it's just important to note that he

1028
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 1: definitely executed in that assignment. Like he's the only guy

1029
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:22,279
Speaker 1: I think that had more than three d receiving yards

1030
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:25,200
Speaker 1: on Alabama last year. Uh, he just like he like

1031
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,760
Speaker 1: I said, he gets open really well at all areas

1032
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: just not not elite scores against press coverage for me,

1033
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 1: and really poor scores in contested situations. Yeah, he's definitely. Yeah.

1034
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 1: I think he's just a good number two receiver. Definitely,

1035
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: like I said, good player, but not somebody that I

1036
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 1: think is just the clear number one wide receiver and like,

1037
00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: let's let's just not even argue it. And I wanted

1038
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,839
Speaker 1: to mention one more name too that we talked about

1039
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,640
Speaker 1: last week was James Washington, who measured in about what

1040
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: I expected. I think five He was five ten. You

1041
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,760
Speaker 1: might have been five ten, five eleven two or thirteen pounds.

1042
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: Really interesting body type, but he reminds me so much

1043
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 1: of Marvin Jones. He's weird. He's weird. I watched him,

1044
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: and maybe it's because he wears number twenty eight and

1045
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,840
Speaker 1: he also sort of has a running back building. I know,

1046
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 1: I think, but I think, because I really do think

1047
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:13,280
Speaker 1: it's because of the number, like number Jersey number scouting.

1048
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: It's totally but it's it's so weird because he's he's

1049
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: big in the upper body and kind of like you know,

1050
00:53:20,120 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: kind of smaller lower body, but so he's like built

1051
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,439
Speaker 1: like a bowling ball type running and then he wears

1052
00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,120
Speaker 1: number twenty eight, So you watch him and you're like,

1053
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,680
Speaker 1: did they just split that guy out wide? But he's

1054
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: like great vertical threat, cracks the hell out of the ball.

1055
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I think is sneaky fast. Yeah,

1056
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,239
Speaker 1: because he didn't run I think he ran a four

1057
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:43,480
Speaker 1: or five four or something, but definitely not not like

1058
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 1: an elite forty time by any measure. Good for NFL standards.

1059
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,279
Speaker 1: I mean, it's still it's it's fine, especially for how

1060
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: he's built to like, like to be two pounds and

1061
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:54,360
Speaker 1: rocked up like that. Yeah, he's he would also assume

1062
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: once you put the pads on, he's not losing that

1063
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: four or five speed, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

1064
00:53:57,520 --> 00:53:59,560
Speaker 1: I could easily see him being the best receiver in

1065
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 1: this class just because again yeah right, maybe maybe not

1066
00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: an elite number one, but I think again, I come

1067
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 1: back to that Marvin Jones comparison. I'm trying to get

1068
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,239
Speaker 1: better at comps because I stuck. But I'm trying to

1069
00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,680
Speaker 1: make them more because it just helps people understand I'm

1070
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:15,719
Speaker 1: trying to give up like my war on comps, which

1071
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 1: i've I've I've done for the last few draft seasons.

1072
00:54:18,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: But the thing about like, what's grab about Marvin Jones.

1073
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:22,919
Speaker 1: He's not that you know, he's not the elite number

1074
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: one receiver refills that role for Detroit because he does

1075
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: two things that are rare and valuable. He gets down

1076
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,360
Speaker 1: the field and he wins in tight coverage and contested situations.

1077
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:33,879
Speaker 1: That's exactly what James Washington does. That's why I view them.

1078
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: They're not built quite the same way, but definitely not.

1079
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 1: But but that's why I think it's just an easy comparison.

1080
00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,680
Speaker 1: I just remember the comps aren't necessary to be a

1081
00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:49,400
Speaker 1: one to one, you know, right, It's like style types. Yeah, exactly.

1082
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:50,879
Speaker 1: It always brings me back to one. Did and cal

1083
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 1: throw Marvin Jones more? I don't understand. You will always

1084
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 1: ask that question. I don't understand. All right, So let's

1085
00:54:56,680 --> 00:54:59,640
Speaker 1: close up your show with your round of daily steps.

1086
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: That's the we shall start. Well, how about this, I'll

1087
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: start for for once we start, we started talking about

1088
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,040
Speaker 1: the sunfish. But yes, exactly, uh, And it's because we

1089
00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 1: started we finished talking about the combine Um Shokim Griffin

1090
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:15,920
Speaker 1: man daily DAPs to him linebacker from ucf UM. He

1091
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:19,320
Speaker 1: lost his left hand due to a prenatal condition. But man,

1092
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:29,520
Speaker 1: he coode. I wasn't watching the combine when it happened,

1093
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 1: but I happened to pull up Twitter on my phone

1094
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: and it went slot machines, I mean about and it

1095
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: was too. It was funny too because he killed the bench.

1096
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 1: Twenty reps on the bench with one hand, Bro, twenty

1097
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 1: reps on the bench with one hand. He exactly Yet

1098
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:52,319
Speaker 1: it's he's six one pounds highly productive in college as well. Again,

1099
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 1: six one to thirty ran a four three eight. Bro.

1100
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: You can get the pr thing out of here. You

1101
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 1: can get the feel good story. This dude can just

1102
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: straight up ball. He's a good football player. He will

1103
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,080
Speaker 1: be a huge asset to anyone's defense. He was with

1104
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: the captain of the defense on a team that went

1105
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: so I don't know, Like that's that's pretty good in

1106
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: a notch on the resume, right, that's a pretty good

1107
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,600
Speaker 1: thing to put on the resume. Just say whether it's

1108
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, as a special teamer or just whatever, Like

1109
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:23,399
Speaker 1: he's gonna get on the field and he's gonna he's

1110
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: gonna play well. I mean, I don't know what his

1111
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 1: coverage skills are like, but if some coach can just

1112
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: work with this dude in coverage. He will be a

1113
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:34,719
Speaker 1: terrific linebacker in the NFL. Josh Norris tweeted out a play.

1114
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,799
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find it, but I don't think I'm

1115
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to right now. Like he tweeted out

1116
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,880
Speaker 1: a play where just a clip of of Keem Griffin

1117
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 1: playing a game where that he played nineties snaps, played

1118
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 1: all all ninety of the defensive snaps or something like that,

1119
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,800
Speaker 1: and in the fourth quarter, like he's still just hunting guys.

1120
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:52,920
Speaker 1: And I listened to a really good interview that he

1121
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,680
Speaker 1: did with DJ and BUCKYO moved the sticks and you

1122
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,360
Speaker 1: could just he just is electrifying to talk to. And

1123
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,000
Speaker 1: like he even said, he's like man to like football games,

1124
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: like I just can't do anything else because like I

1125
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: just give it, I just give it everything I have.

1126
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:09,000
Speaker 1: It's just such an easy story. And anyways, great football player.

1127
00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: He's gonna be an asset to anyone who drafts him.

1128
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 1: I don't know where he goes, what round or whatever,

1129
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: but man, he's gonna be an asset. I love him.

1130
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Um Daily adapts to Deontay Wilder came from behind to

1131
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 1: beat Louis King Kong Ortiz improved his record to forty

1132
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,120
Speaker 1: and oh thirty nine knockouts in those forty wins. Man,

1133
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: if you have not seen Deontay Wilder box, go find

1134
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: this dude online. This man. He looks wild And actually

1135
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I got into an argument, a little bit of an

1136
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: argument with a fellow at my at my boxing gym

1137
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: this morning talking about how Deontay Wilder has got no

1138
00:57:45,920 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: technique this that and this other thing, and I'm like, yeah,

1139
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: he doesn't. But that's straight right hand. That's straight right

1140
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: hand that he's got. That is something special, and he

1141
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 1: does it with perfect technique. After the win, remember he

1142
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: beat this guy, King Kong Morteaz. The quote from Deanta

1143
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: Wilder was a quote from training day. I was gonna say,

1144
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,960
Speaker 1: did he go training day on it? He said King

1145
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 1: Kong ain't got nothing on me? And then King Kong

1146
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: ain't got nothing on me. Then he was shot repeatedly

1147
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 1: by Russian mobsters. I would hope not. I would hope not.

1148
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,920
Speaker 1: But Daily adapts to Deontay Wilder. It was a terrific

1149
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 1: fight between Wilder analties. A terrific fight, um, and it

1150
00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 1: was a lot of fun to see, all right, not

1151
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: harm what you got. I wanted to give two daily adapts.

1152
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 1: One speaking of the combine just to the coverage here

1153
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: at the network that we do is killed it as

1154
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,800
Speaker 1: a company hashtag company man here. But I was watching

1155
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: it all weekend as I was checking out charting the

1156
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: receivers and everything, like yeah, but I just just it's

1157
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: a really fun event to cover. It looks like it's

1158
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: something I'd love to be a part of at some point,

1159
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 1: But like just watching it, it's a it's a total blast.

1160
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: Like listening to some of the former players to like

1161
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: just when they're watching, Like people don't like to watch

1162
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: the drills on field, but like when the receivers were

1163
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: catching passes and running routes, was awesome to listen to,

1164
00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: Like Steve Smith and Michael Irvin kind of you never

1165
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:07,520
Speaker 1: really get to hear him do that, like really break

1166
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: down from a technical perspective, Like you're not doing that

1167
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:12,400
Speaker 1: on on game day morning. It's not yeah and a

1168
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: three minute hit or whatever, or like during games or anything,

1169
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: but in that moment when it's just the one player

1170
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:19,320
Speaker 1: isolated on the field, they really get into like you know,

1171
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,280
Speaker 1: and if you're big football nerd or whatever, it's really

1172
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: fun to listen to them talk about the technique and

1173
00:59:23,240 --> 00:59:24,800
Speaker 1: the timing and everything that goes into it. So that

1174
00:59:24,880 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: was cool. Second Daily DAP, I wanted to give adapts

1175
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,600
Speaker 1: to uh, Chris Cornell, who's obviously passed away. Last this

1176
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 1: is the last may I think, um uh, he committed suicide.

1177
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 1: But they put out a cover of him, like it's

1178
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: not it's not a cover. But like Johnny Cash wrote

1179
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 1: these two poems and Chris brought them together into one

1180
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: song and it's really good. Um it's it's It's on

1181
00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: Spotify right now, so if you go search Chris Cornell

1182
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: you'll you'll find it there. Um it's. It's just it's

1183
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: haunting because both these man are obviously no longer with us,

1184
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: and especially under the circumstances with with which Chris Cornell

1185
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:07,919
Speaker 1: is is no longer with with us. Uh it's it's

1186
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:10,120
Speaker 1: really cool to listen to it, just like to view

1187
01:00:10,120 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 1: the two things together. You never knew my mind is

1188
01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: the song. Okay, there you go. MG MI got Marcus Grant.

1189
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: What's up? I'm in a Daily DAP and I'm pretty

1190
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,560
Speaker 1: sure gel Hard Dap this a couple of weeks ago,

1191
01:00:19,600 --> 01:00:23,400
Speaker 1: but I'm kind of piggybacking Annihilation, which I wouldn't partially

1192
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 1: because one, I actually wanted to see it, but also

1193
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:29,080
Speaker 1: because there was sort of a budding debate in the

1194
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: newsroom between Alex Gelhart and Patrick clay Bonne on whether

1195
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 1: or not Annihilation was actually hashtag good. Uh and I

1196
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:41,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. I thought, I thought, I thought it was awesome.

1197
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 1: Um in the sense that I look, I know there

1198
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 1: are questions about the character's motivations. I really didn't care.

1199
01:00:48,080 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 1: I just want to see what was in the shimmer.

1200
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,439
Speaker 1: I go in there and show me what is back there,

1201
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I want to see weird aliens of

1202
01:00:53,840 --> 01:00:56,720
Speaker 1: supernatural sci fi stuff. Uh. And I thought it was

1203
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: I thought I did that. I also thought, uh, it's

1204
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 1: it's a good movie to see on the big screen.

1205
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: I mean, it's gorgeous. It looks fantastic. I thought, Uh,

1206
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: Natalie Portman, Tessa Thompson, Gina Rodriguez, the whole cast was great.

1207
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 1: I liked it. I know a lot of people came

1208
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: away not feeling that way. Thomson is uh so I

1209
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,320
Speaker 1: like the Ghost thee Annihilation and and sort of pickybag

1210
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: on what Alex said. A couple of weeks ago. It

1211
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: is it is original, it is different. Uh, it is

1212
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: not you know, a reboot of whatever? Ever you know

1213
01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: a superhero movie, right, it's not a superhero movie with

1214
01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,840
Speaker 1: not a reboot of whatever. It's something different in new,

1215
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: an original for all of us who complain about the

1216
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:35,959
Speaker 1: lack of creativity and originality in Hollywood movies that come out, Like,

1217
01:01:36,680 --> 01:01:38,520
Speaker 1: if we're gonna complain about it, we should go support

1218
01:01:38,520 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 1: movies that are different and new and fresh. And so hey,

1219
01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,480
Speaker 1: I finally saw a black panther, So, oh my god,

1220
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,360
Speaker 1: I did too. I'm just amazing. I'm three weeks into uh,

1221
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: three weeks later, I'm into able to have conversation conversations

1222
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: about pop culture. I can finally stop. I finally stopped

1223
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:59,320
Speaker 1: like the last fifteen minutes of podcasting stop talk. So

1224
01:01:59,520 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm elevant. Now we have a legit trend going onto

1225
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: the podcast as well. We go from producer Chris to

1226
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: producer Christina. Producer Christina, what do you got for Dad?

1227
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:11,960
Speaker 1: I would say, a lot of people back because we

1228
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 1: have a party. Back look like a wood tank, sing like,

1229
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,880
Speaker 1: oh my god, live studio audience. Here we go Nobody's

1230
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: daily DAP to my mom she flies into the moms

1231
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: she flies in today. Not thrilled I have to drive

1232
01:02:33,320 --> 01:02:37,200
Speaker 1: to l a X during rush hour. But this is,

1233
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,360
Speaker 1: you know, up an example of how much you love

1234
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: your mind. I was gonna say, I was just gonna

1235
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: side bubble talk. No, this is this is just exactly,

1236
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 1: this is just anti l a X talk. This is

1237
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:55,400
Speaker 1: this is a different genre, a for real west side forever.

1238
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 1: This is west side bubble talk. This is aunt l

1239
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 1: a X talk, just l a X sucks talk. How

1240
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 1: how long does that drive take you? Legit? So it's

1241
01:03:06,280 --> 01:03:08,280
Speaker 1: only five minutes? No, No No, it's not about getting No,

1242
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,960
Speaker 1: it's not about getting to the airport. It's getting navigating.

1243
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:14,480
Speaker 1: It's not navigating the airport. Once you get there, I'll

1244
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: tell you what you like. I know it's it's hard

1245
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,960
Speaker 1: for you, James, because you only have to drive like

1246
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 1: Diamond Bar to see the family. You know, you just

1247
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: hop on the one oh five or whatever. Let me

1248
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: tell you what. After the Saint Gabriel Valley and after

1249
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 1: this Christmas I had to do that that going in

1250
01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: trip to get my sister, dropped my sister off to

1251
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: get my mom and stepdad, and then to drop them

1252
01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,120
Speaker 1: off when I did it four times around a holiday.

1253
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,360
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, I mean, I love you guys,

1254
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,720
Speaker 1: but this can't happen again. We need to work something else,

1255
01:03:47,320 --> 01:03:50,600
Speaker 1: my lord. But anyways, outrage, So you definitely you got it,

1256
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: you got some. The mom's is coming through what you guys,

1257
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 1: what you got planned anything? Well, she's here all weekend,

1258
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Speaker 1: so I'm but days of activities, days, yeah, date, so

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Speaker 1: I'll come back next week with a few things to

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Speaker 1: talking about. Seem perfect, all right, So that's your show

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Speaker 1: for producer Christina for MG my guy Marcus Grad from

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Speaker 1: Matt Harmon. I'm James co. We appreciate you listening. We'll

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Speaker 1: catch you next week. Wow, I don't know, I don't know.