WEBVTT - S1: E31 – The Search for Bethany Correira, Part 1

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<v Speaker 1>In Alaska. The big concern is theirs. I always say

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest danger in Alaska is the human animals.

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<v Speaker 2>Less than a week after moving to Anchorage, Bethany Carrera vanished.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't aware of what a violent place Anchorage could be.

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<v Speaker 2>And locating Bethany's killer would be just as difficult as

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<v Speaker 2>finding her body.

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<v Speaker 1>We knew where the body was, and this is Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>and there was three feet of snow on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>and we couldn't recover a body until some of the

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<v Speaker 1>snow melted.

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<v Speaker 2>Bringing justice would cost another life.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tragedy for everybody involved.

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<v Speaker 2>Today we're an Anchorage, Alaska for part one of the

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<v Speaker 2>search for Bethany Carrera. I'm Slow Glass and this is

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<v Speaker 2>American Homicide. Just to note that this episode contained some

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<v Speaker 2>graphic content, Please take care while listening. With more than

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred square miles of Arctic coast, untamed wilderness, and

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<v Speaker 2>majestic mountains, Alaska is our nation's largest state, but even

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<v Speaker 2>with all that land, just over half a million people

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<v Speaker 2>live there.

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<v Speaker 1>Half the population of the state is an Anchorage.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron McGee was the public affairs manager for the Anchorage

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<v Speaker 2>Police Department.

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<v Speaker 1>The last I checked, we were like the sixty fourth

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<v Speaker 1>largest city in the nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Historically, people have flocked to Alaska in search of riches.

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<v Speaker 1>The state has always been about oil.

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<v Speaker 2>Along with liquid gold. Alaska was home to the gold

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<v Speaker 2>rush of the late eighteen hundreds that fostered the first

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<v Speaker 2>generation of people who came to the state in search

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<v Speaker 2>of riches. But then there's the other group of people.

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<v Speaker 1>In the thirty two years that I have been here,

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<v Speaker 1>I encountered a lot of people who came to Alaska

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get away from.

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<v Speaker 2>Something, whether it's the law, money issues, or something completely innocent.

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska is a place where a lot of people go

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<v Speaker 2>to escape their past.

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<v Speaker 1>We have a lot of the problems that people in

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<v Speaker 1>the lower forty eight have, but Anchorage has always been

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<v Speaker 1>what I would consider a very violent place. Our rate

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<v Speaker 1>of violence is much higher than the rest of the nation.

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<v Speaker 1>We've led the nation, for example, in rapes since I

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<v Speaker 1>can remember.

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska's violent crime rate is more than double the national average,

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<v Speaker 2>and most of those crimes happen in Anchorage, which is

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<v Speaker 2>scary for the college students who move there.

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<v Speaker 1>The University of Alaska's campus in Anchorage is the largest

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<v Speaker 1>in the university system. They offer the most majors, and

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<v Speaker 1>we try to talk to the students and try and

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<v Speaker 1>make them aware that, especially the students who come from

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<v Speaker 1>rural Alaska, that this can be a very violent place.

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<v Speaker 2>One of those students who came to the University of

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<v Speaker 2>Alaska and Anchorage or UAA was Bethany Carrera.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany comes from this little small community in Talketina.

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<v Speaker 2>It's about one hundred miles north of Anchorage, a town

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<v Speaker 2>so small that a cat won the race for mayor.

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<v Speaker 2>As a writing candidate. Can you imagine losing to a cat? So,

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany came from a small town, very small. In two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, the population was eight hundred and ten people.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany was a go getter who loved camping, snowboarding, and sailing.

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<v Speaker 2>Adventure was in her blood. In fact, after graduating high school,

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany embarked on a year long sailing trip through the

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<v Speaker 2>South Pacific. Then she served as a Christian missionary to

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<v Speaker 2>Thailand and Nepal. But then the twenty one year old

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<v Speaker 2>decided it was time to go back to school.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany came from Talkeita in two thousand and three to

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<v Speaker 1>attend UAA. She was pre mad. She's a good student,

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<v Speaker 1>she's a good daughter. Her parents had wonderful things to

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<v Speaker 1>say about her.

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<v Speaker 2>He found a small apartment a couple miles from campus

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<v Speaker 2>in Bootlegger's Cove. It's a scenic area of anchorage along

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<v Speaker 2>the coastline that got its name in the days of Prohibition.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when barrels of moonshine used to roll off nearby boats.

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<v Speaker 2>In the early two thousands, the area was popular with

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<v Speaker 2>college students.

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<v Speaker 1>Bootlegger's Cove at that time was considered sort of a

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<v Speaker 1>trendy place, a place that was a little more expensive

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<v Speaker 1>than the rest of the town. Because it was close

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<v Speaker 1>to the water.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's one bedroom apartment conveniently sat near several trails for hiking, biking,

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<v Speaker 2>and running, all of which Bethany loved to do.

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<v Speaker 1>If you like the outdoors, this is the place to be.

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<v Speaker 2>At the time, many of the older homes and Bootlegger's

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<v Speaker 2>Cove were being torn down to make way for bigger

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<v Speaker 2>and fancier places. In fact, Bethany's modest four unit apartment

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<v Speaker 2>building was scheduled to be torn down later that year.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's always there's a lot of development going on

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<v Speaker 1>around here. You know, it's a place that is recreating

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<v Speaker 1>itself constantly.

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<v Speaker 2>But it worked out for Bethany. She was able to

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<v Speaker 2>sign a three month lease that coincided with her summer

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<v Speaker 2>school schedule, and that final week of April two thousand

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<v Speaker 2>and three, Bethany's boyfriend Joe helped her move into her

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<v Speaker 2>new apartment. But by that Saturday, Bethany went a wall.

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<v Speaker 1>Bethany was supposed to pick up her brother from the

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<v Speaker 1>airport and she didn't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was out of character for the reliable and responsible Bethany.

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<v Speaker 2>As you can imagine, her family was concerned.

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<v Speaker 1>And her mother immediately drove about one hundred miles from

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<v Speaker 1>tel Ketna to come to Anchorage and check on her.

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<v Speaker 1>And when she checked on her, she couldn't find her.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't at home. She found that Bethany had left

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<v Speaker 1>her cell phone in her wallet in the apartment, and

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<v Speaker 1>that immediately made her suspicious. You know, no young lady

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<v Speaker 1>goes anywhere without her cell phone in her a while.

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<v Speaker 2>Her mom also found Bethany's car, passport, and even her

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<v Speaker 2>favorite backpack at her apartment. But what really added to

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<v Speaker 2>her mother's anxiety was what she saw outside.

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<v Speaker 1>The apartment next door burns. There had been a fire

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<v Speaker 1>in the apartment, and that immediately made her suspicious.

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<v Speaker 2>The upstairs unit of the vacant duplex next door to

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's apartment was under construction and had caught fire earlier

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<v Speaker 2>that morning. The unsettling smell of smoke still lingered in.

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<v Speaker 1>The air, so immediately she caught her husband and her

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<v Speaker 1>husband drove to Anchorage, and then her mother called the police.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's mom told detectives that she last talked with her

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<v Speaker 2>daughter late Friday night. It was now Sunday afternoon. She

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<v Speaker 2>explained that her daughter's boyfriend, Joe, had been in town

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<v Speaker 2>to help Bethany move, but there were no signs of

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<v Speaker 2>Joe or any of his belongings at Bethany's apartment. Her

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<v Speaker 2>mom admitted that she did I didn't know much about Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>She then asked the detectives if they knew anything about

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<v Speaker 2>the apartment next door to Bethany's, the one that had

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<v Speaker 2>recently caught fire.

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<v Speaker 1>Originally, they thought that the fire was from electrical natural causes,

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<v Speaker 1>but this additional investigator determined that the fire had been

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<v Speaker 1>set intentionally. That made us even more suspicious when we

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<v Speaker 1>found that out.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, So we have a missing twenty one year

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<v Speaker 2>old woman who lived next door to a building that

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<v Speaker 2>was intentionally set on fire. Immediately the Anchorage PD got involved.

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<v Speaker 3>My name is Walt Monnigan. That was the chief of

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<v Speaker 3>police and the Anchorage Police Department at that time when

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<v Speaker 3>we did get a report that she was missing. Normally

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<v Speaker 3>we don't take those kind of reports. Most police departments

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<v Speaker 3>don't for a couple of days because nine out of

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<v Speaker 3>ten they showed back up. But because of the urgency

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<v Speaker 3>in this one, we did.

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<v Speaker 1>Look at it.

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<v Speaker 2>The urgency stemmed from the fact that Bethany hadn't even

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<v Speaker 2>lived in Anchorage for a week.

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<v Speaker 3>Coming from a smaller town where you pretty much know

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<v Speaker 3>everybody and going into a larger place, you're not going

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<v Speaker 3>to be as cognizant or aware of some of the

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<v Speaker 3>dangers that are around you. If there's a person that

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<v Speaker 3>you should stay away from. In tel Keita, everybody knows

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<v Speaker 3>about it. In Anchorage not so so. I think a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of folks when they first come to Anchorage or

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<v Speaker 3>Fairbanks or some of the larger places, they're a little

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<v Speaker 3>more trusting than most people who live in the cities.

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<v Speaker 2>As the police began their investigation. Nearly one hundred volunteers

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<v Speaker 2>from Bethany's hometown arrived in Anchorage to search for her.

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<v Speaker 3>The family started putting out flyers. They basically papered downtown.

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<v Speaker 3>You could hardly go buy a restaurant or a power

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<v Speaker 3>pool that didn't have Bethany's picture on it. The first

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<v Speaker 3>time I saw one of those, I just thought she

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<v Speaker 3>had such an innocent smile, just a happy, genuine, likable person,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had hopes that, you know, she'd be okay,

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<v Speaker 3>like everybody else did.

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<v Speaker 2>It had been less than a week since Bethany moved

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<v Speaker 2>into her apartment, which had no sign of forced entry.

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<v Speaker 2>If anything, it looked like Bethany had simply left to

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<v Speaker 2>go run an errand but never returned. And she was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one and knew in town. Did she go to

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<v Speaker 2>the bar to not come home? Well, her mother said,

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany wasn't much of a drinker or partier.

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<v Speaker 3>We found her person, her keys, and her phone. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>was there. That kind of added to the evidence aspect

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<v Speaker 3>that she didn't just scramble and take off someplace.

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<v Speaker 2>A look through Bethany's cell phone gave detectives their first clue.

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<v Speaker 3>I believe her boyfriend had just been talking to her.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's phone showed that one of the last phone calls

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<v Speaker 2>came from her boyfriend, Joe, so the police got in

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<v Speaker 2>touch with Joe, who confirmed that yes, he did talk

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<v Speaker 2>with Bethany that Saturday morning, and that began a long

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<v Speaker 2>conversation between Joe and the detectives. Because they learned Joe

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<v Speaker 2>was married.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone's a suspect, initially everyone.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany Carrero was a twenty one year old student who

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<v Speaker 2>was starting life on her own. On Monday, she moved

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<v Speaker 2>into her new apartment in Anchorage. By Saturday, she was

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<v Speaker 2>nowhere to be found. Ron McGee worked for the Anchorage PD.

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<v Speaker 1>This young lady was completely harmless. She was a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of young lady that everyone would like to have as

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<v Speaker 1>a daughter. She comes from this little small community in Talketna.

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<v Speaker 1>For a lot of people who were raised in rural Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>Anchorage can be a little bit of a rude awakening.

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<v Speaker 1>I always say the biggest danger in Alaska is the

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<v Speaker 1>human animals.

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<v Speaker 2>And of course that was the fear that someone had

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<v Speaker 2>done something to Bethany. The normally reliable Bethany was supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to pick up her brother from the airport that weekend,

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<v Speaker 2>but she never showed up. It left her family wondering

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<v Speaker 2>where's Bethany.

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't want to disappear. I think everybody was on edge.

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<v Speaker 1>The Talkatina community really responded to it, and the people

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<v Speaker 1>here at Anchorage got involved in it too, particularly the

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<v Speaker 1>students out of the university. We had a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>students in the university that were distributing flyers and posting

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<v Speaker 1>them all over the campus.

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<v Speaker 2>Flyers with Bethany's smiling face next to the ominous word

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<v Speaker 2>missing went up all over town. It was a scary

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<v Speaker 2>time for Bethany's parents, who struggled to stay positive.

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<v Speaker 1>I think a lot of times families blamed themselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>in this situation, the family was doing it. They raised

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<v Speaker 1>a wonderful daughter, they were sending her off to college

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<v Speaker 1>like so many other families do. They were trying to

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<v Speaker 1>do what was right for their daughter, and she ends

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<v Speaker 1>up missing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was early May and Bethany was about to begin

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<v Speaker 2>summer school. That's also when tourism season was about to begin,

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<v Speaker 2>which meant the snow was melting and the ground was thawing.

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<v Speaker 2>That turned Anchorage into a muddy mess for Bethany's search party, and.

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<v Speaker 1>They were going all around the town, putting up posters

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<v Speaker 1>and looking in places trying to find her, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>very hard work.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives began tracing Bethany's last known whereabouts and got some

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<v Speaker 2>help from her cell phone, which was found inside her apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>It was two thousand and three, but even then, no

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<v Speaker 2>twenty one year old would leave her house without their

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone, which concerned everyone involved. At the time, Bethany

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<v Speaker 2>owned a flip phone. A scroll through her phone long

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<v Speaker 2>showed several calls from that Saturday morning.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe she talked to her boyfriend. Her boyfriend was

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<v Speaker 1>a pilot and they had a conversation.

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<v Speaker 2>Just before nine am that Saturday morning, Bethany had a

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<v Speaker 2>short phone call with her boyfriend Joe, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I made a suspicious right from the beginning.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe lived in No Malaska, which is famous for being

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<v Speaker 2>the endpoint of the Iditarod Dog Race, and the only

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<v Speaker 2>way to get between Anchorage and Nome was by plane.

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<v Speaker 2>Good thing Joe was a pilot at the time. Bethany

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<v Speaker 2>was twenty one years old, Joe was well into his thirties.

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<v Speaker 2>The two used to work together and had been dating

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<v Speaker 2>for about six months. One important thing to note, Joe

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<v Speaker 2>was married.

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<v Speaker 1>That made us even more suspicious when we found that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's parents told investigators they didn't know much about Joe,

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<v Speaker 2>so detectives question Joe, who explained that his marriage was

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<v Speaker 2>long over by the time he met Bethany. He said

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<v Speaker 2>the reason his divorce had dragged out for so long

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<v Speaker 2>was because he and his soon to be x were

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<v Speaker 2>trying to do what was best for their child. Joe

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<v Speaker 2>had been with Bethany before she disappeared. He was helping

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<v Speaker 2>her move into her new apartment. He said the two

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<v Speaker 2>had a nice visit. He even gave her a Puka

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<v Speaker 2>Shehell necklace from Hawaii as a gift. But Joe said

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<v Speaker 2>he flew back to Nome on Friday morning because he

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<v Speaker 2>had to work. Then things got uncomfortable. The detectives asked

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<v Speaker 2>about joe soon to be ex wife. Did she know

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<v Speaker 2>about Bethany. Joe said she did, and the two didn't

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<v Speaker 2>exactly have a happy meeting.

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<v Speaker 1>That immediately drew some concern from the mother and immediately

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<v Speaker 1>from the detectives that responded to it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just a few weeks earlier, Joe's wife found Bethany at

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<v Speaker 2>his apartment in Nome and was furious, even threw a

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<v Speaker 2>glass at her, and later called Bethany's parents and told

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<v Speaker 2>them their daughter was a home wrecker.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a parent too, I have three kids and about

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<v Speaker 1>the same age as she was, and so I just

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<v Speaker 1>felt for the parents.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives checked Joe's alibi and confirmed he was flying that

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<v Speaker 2>entire weekend. As for the pilot soon to be ex wife,

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<v Speaker 2>there are no roads between Noman Anchorage. If she were

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<v Speaker 2>to come to Anchorage, she'd have to fly in, and

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<v Speaker 2>there was no record of that happening. They cleared both

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<v Speaker 2>the pilot and his wife and again left everyone asking

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<v Speaker 2>where is Bethany.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot of people that disappear for a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different reasons, and so they wanted to know

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<v Speaker 1>what happened to this young lady.

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<v Speaker 2>Do their conversation with Joe, detectives got a clear picture

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<v Speaker 2>of what was happening in Bethany's life. Joe said Bethany

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<v Speaker 2>had taken a new job cleaning and showing apartments for

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<v Speaker 2>her landlord, a man named Mike Lawson, and that Saturday,

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany planned to meet with Mike so he could train her.

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<v Speaker 1>The detective he questioned Mike immediately.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Lawson said, yes, he and Bethany spoke early that

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<v Speaker 2>Saturday morning, but it was to resolve an issue with

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany's keys. But Mike said he never met up with

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany that Saturday. In fact, he said he's the one

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<v Speaker 2>who shows the apartments to prospective tenants, so he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>sure what Bethany was talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Lawson said that he was at home with his

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<v Speaker 1>brother all day watching NASCAR.

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<v Speaker 2>After hitting several dead ends, investigators shifted their focus to

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<v Speaker 2>the Dupleaux next door to Bethany's apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a fire in the apartment, and in this case,

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<v Speaker 1>there was something to that fire.

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<v Speaker 2>Early that Sunday morning, a newspaper delivery person noticed the

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<v Speaker 2>fire and called nine one one. Originally ruled an accident,

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<v Speaker 2>investigators later discovered it was no accident at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the apartment was set on fire.

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<v Speaker 3>When we went to go look at the fire afterwards,

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<v Speaker 3>we found some evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>Won't Want again was the chief of police for the

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<v Speaker 2>Anchorage PD, and.

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<v Speaker 3>The fire basically was meant to destroy whatever evidence might.

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<v Speaker 2>Be inside Inside the apartment, the detectives noticed a suspicious

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<v Speaker 2>patch of drywall, almost like the job was rushed to

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<v Speaker 2>get done just before the fire.

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<v Speaker 3>The material that they used to you know, that coulking

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<v Speaker 3>kind of drywall stuff, wasn't completely dry and actually kind

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<v Speaker 3>of depressed because of the heat the moisture there. It

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<v Speaker 3>actually shrank back and made us look at it. And

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<v Speaker 3>as we examined that repair, we found some hair inside.

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<v Speaker 2>It was almost incredible that investigators located those hairs and

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<v Speaker 2>fibers within the poorly patched drywall. They were sent off

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<v Speaker 2>to the lab for testing, and while they waited for answers,

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<v Speaker 2>they were left to wonder whose hair was in the

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<v Speaker 2>wall and how did it get there because the apartment

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<v Speaker 2>it was found in was vacant. Franco Beznis was a

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<v Speaker 2>contractor who worked on that building.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Lawson and I worked for a construction company and

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<v Speaker 4>the guy calls me up and he says, hey, Franco,

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<v Speaker 4>the building caught on fire. The duplex, the one that

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<v Speaker 4>I was in the work. It's a two story burnt

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<v Speaker 4>through the first floor. The flames went up and even

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<v Speaker 4>the ceiling was burnt, but it didn't actually break the

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<v Speaker 4>shell of the whole building, and it was ruled as

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<v Speaker 4>electrical fire, which really obsessed me because I'm the one

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<v Speaker 4>that does the work and I don't want to be

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<v Speaker 4>blamed for, you know, touching two wires together. But after

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<v Speaker 4>examining the fire, I knew that it wasn't me. ATF

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<v Speaker 4>came in and ruled it as arson. When that changed everything,

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<v Speaker 4>that drew attention to the whole disappearance next door.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when the police started looking at everyone who had

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<v Speaker 2>been working on the apartment.

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<v Speaker 4>The lead investigator starts telling us about Bethany Krarraz missing,

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<v Speaker 4>and they knew the connection that we had already, that

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<v Speaker 4>our company is the same company that rent it tour,

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<v Speaker 4>so they're questioning.

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<v Speaker 3>All of us.

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<v Speaker 4>Little I realized that they ran it background track and

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<v Speaker 4>literally everybody right there on the spot.

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<v Speaker 2>And wait until you hear what they found.

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<v Speaker 4>Out of the seven guys that I worked with, five

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<v Speaker 4>of them come back as rester sex offenders, which blew

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<v Speaker 4>me away.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so there are five registered sex offenders working on

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<v Speaker 2>an apartment building where a twenty one year old girl

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<v Speaker 2>went missing and the neighboring building was set on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>There's one gal that just ended the apartment there who's alone.

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<v Speaker 4>So that really drew a lot of attention to our

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<v Speaker 4>company for investigators.

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<v Speaker 2>The hope was that one of these five registered sex

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<v Speaker 2>offenders might lead them to Bethany, and with any luck,

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<v Speaker 2>they'd find Bethany alive.

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<v Speaker 4>I believe that somebody knows something.

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<v Speaker 2>As the Anchorage PD pieced together a timeline of Bethany

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<v Speaker 2>Carrera's disappearance, they were focused not only on her apartment,

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<v Speaker 2>but the building next door. Right around the same time

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany disappeared that Saturday, her next door apartment caught on fire.

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<v Speaker 4>The timing of the fire was back to back.

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<v Speaker 2>Francobznai's was a contractor who worked with Bethany's landlord.

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<v Speaker 4>Saturday night. The fire broke out same Bill and I

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<v Speaker 4>had all the work at so Initially it was ruled

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<v Speaker 4>electrical fire. Then after more investigation, it was ruled as arson.

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<v Speaker 4>That changed everything.

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<v Speaker 2>Detectives got even more suspicious when they did a background

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<v Speaker 2>check on a construction crew.

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<v Speaker 4>Five out of the seven were roster sex offenders. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>sitting there going what am I working with?

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<v Speaker 2>The police looked into all of their alibis, including Bethany's landlord,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Lawson. At the time, Mike Lawson was forty five

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<v Speaker 2>years old. He was tall, and husky with jet black hair.

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<v Speaker 2>He slipped back and yes, Mike did have some well

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<v Speaker 2>documented problems with women.

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<v Speaker 4>The lead investigator actually asked him right in front of me,

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<v Speaker 4>is it okay if I do a visual search on

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<v Speaker 4>your vehicle? Mike said yes. So they walked over to

0:21:51.400 --> 0:21:55.439
<v Speaker 4>Mike's vehicle. Mike opened every door, including the hatchback to

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<v Speaker 4>his SUV Mercedes. They walked around, did a bit look,

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<v Speaker 4>and then they drove off. I go back to work.

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<v Speaker 4>An hour and a half goes by and I look

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<v Speaker 4>back over there. Mike never left. All he's doing is

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<v Speaker 4>walking in circles around his car, looking sort of like

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<v Speaker 4>what the investigators did.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine seeing one of your coworkers doing that.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Franco found it a little suspicious, And then

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<v Speaker 2>things got even more strange.

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<v Speaker 4>He walked up to me and said, Franco, can you

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<v Speaker 4>cover for me? And I'm like, yeah, I'll cover for you.

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<v Speaker 4>He said that he needs to go get an attorney.

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<v Speaker 4>I looked at Mike and I said, Mike, we don't

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<v Speaker 4>all need attorneys. I know for fact that I didn't

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<v Speaker 4>do anything, and I don't think any of these guys did,

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<v Speaker 4>But why worry about it Mike, and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 4>they're looking at me.

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<v Speaker 2>The next day, Mike showed up to work with his

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<v Speaker 2>car completely cleaned and detailed.

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<v Speaker 4>This car is the cleanest I've ever seen it. But

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<v Speaker 4>you got to understand about Mike this car. I've known

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<v Speaker 4>him for several months. One time I could ever get

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<v Speaker 4>in the car.

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<v Speaker 1>It was so.

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<v Speaker 4>Dirty, papers and boxes. There was never no room except

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<v Speaker 4>for just him.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, this could be one giant coincidence that Mike

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<v Speaker 2>had his car cleaned a day after the police searched it.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's what Franco learned about Mike that concerned him.

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<v Speaker 4>Mike Lawson is a restler sexpender. He was a restler

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<v Speaker 4>sexpender that did not reregister himself here in Anchorage. And

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<v Speaker 4>so I started having this gut feeling about Michael and

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<v Speaker 4>called crime Stoppers. They connected me with the lead investigator.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as the investigation began, we started talking to

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<v Speaker 1>people and they said that Mike Lawson was a very

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<v Speaker 1>angry man.

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<v Speaker 2>Ron McGee worked for the Anchorage PD.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a lot of problems with women, very violent.

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<v Speaker 2>In nineteen eighty seven, Mike was living in Illinois. That's

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<v Speaker 2>when he was arrested for tying up, beating, and repeatedly

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<v Speaker 2>sexually assaulting his then girlfriend. A year later, a jury

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<v Speaker 2>convicted Mike Lawson of aggravated criminal sexual assault. He was

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<v Speaker 2>sentenced to seven years in prison. After serving only three

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<v Speaker 2>years in prison, Mike Lawson was released. That's when he

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<v Speaker 2>relocated to Alaska. He and his brother Bob, then started

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<v Speaker 2>a roofing company. Right around the time Bethany Carrera vanished,

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<v Speaker 2>Mike was getting divorced for the fourth time.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly he's got some anger issues. His wife had just

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<v Speaker 1>left him. He indicated that he wanted to do violence

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<v Speaker 1>to women, and I made a suspicious right from the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning that made him a suspect right away.

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<v Speaker 2>If you remember, Mike had an alibi for the day

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<v Speaker 2>Bethany went missing.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike and his brother had said that they were home

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<v Speaker 1>all day watching TV, watching race car driving. We were

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<v Speaker 1>able to get their phone records and a turn in

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<v Speaker 1>from their phone records that they were lying to us.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about those phone records. On the Saturday

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<v Speaker 2>morning Bethany went missing, Mike called his brother Bob seven times,

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<v Speaker 2>and all seven calls happened within three minutes. Why was

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<v Speaker 2>Mike so desperately trying to get a hold of Bob. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>a closer look at these phone calls might tell us

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<v Speaker 2>Mike's cell phone had pinged the cell tower near Bethany's apartment.

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<v Speaker 2>So Mike may have said he and Bob were at

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<v Speaker 2>home all day Saturday, but their phone records said otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not telling the truth that he had not

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<v Speaker 1>been at home. So you know, obviously something was amiss there,

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<v Speaker 1>and of course that raises more suspicions when you find

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<v Speaker 1>out that people were lying to you.

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<v Speaker 2>That Saturday morning, Mike's brother Bob finally took his brother's

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<v Speaker 2>call just before eleven am. Afterwards, records showed Mike's cell

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:00.919
<v Speaker 2>phone returning to his home before travel lame some forty

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<v Speaker 2>five miles north, which is close to Tolkita. Mike's phone

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<v Speaker 2>then went silent for hours.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, we didn't have enough evidence to charge him,

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<v Speaker 1>but we had a suspect, so we had to find

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<v Speaker 1>other ways to prove that Lawson had been involved in this.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike Lawson had lied to investigators, and that's when the

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<v Speaker 2>police leaned on Mike's brother Bob. Here's the audio of

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<v Speaker 2>Bob being questioned by detectives. Do you believe that your

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<v Speaker 2>brother's involved in the arson or Bethany's disappeared.

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<v Speaker 1>I really don't. I just got deep down, true blue

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<v Speaker 1>from my heart. I really don't think Mike's involved. If

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<v Speaker 1>my brother came home and told me he did something

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<v Speaker 1>like that, I'd tell.

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<v Speaker 4>You I'm not going to jail for anybody. I'll tell

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<v Speaker 4>you that's flat out.

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<v Speaker 2>So investigators went to Plan B and played hardball. They

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<v Speaker 2>showed Bob alone application he and his brother, Mike Lawson,

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<v Speaker 2>filled out for their roofing company.

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<v Speaker 1>Lawson had applied for a loan and had falsified some

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<v Speaker 1>informations on documents during this loan process.

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<v Speaker 2>The application had this question, are any of the applicants

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<v Speaker 2>a convicted felon? Mike was a convicted felon, but he

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<v Speaker 2>lied he had checked off the box for no, and

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<v Speaker 2>by doing that, Mike and Bob had committed fraud, which

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<v Speaker 2>is a federal offense. Police charged both brothers, but offered

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<v Speaker 2>Bob a deal if he would cooperate in their investigation

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<v Speaker 2>into Bethany Carrera, he'd avoid punishment for the fraud case.

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<v Speaker 1>We kept emphasizing to him that this is a young

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<v Speaker 1>lady and her family wants to know where she's at.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob could either join Mike and jail or take the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It took some serious thought, but Bob finally came around.

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<v Speaker 2>He accepted the plea deal and agreed to flip on

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<v Speaker 2>his brother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I got to do. Somebody's got to tell

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<v Speaker 1>the story. If that has to be me, I will

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<v Speaker 1>someday when I'm eulogized. All I want somebody to say

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<v Speaker 1>is I stood up and did the right I always

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<v Speaker 1>dried to the right. I think eventually it got to

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<v Speaker 1>his conscience and he decided to help us. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>it was a very difficult decision that he had to make,

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<v Speaker 1>but he eventually did the right thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Some nine months after Bethany Carrera went missing, Bob told

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<v Speaker 2>the detectives his brother Mike shot and killed Bethany, and

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<v Speaker 2>he said he knew where to find her body.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that basically they just wanted it to be

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<v Speaker 3>far away from town.

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<v Speaker 2>Well't Monagan was the Anchorage chief of police.

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<v Speaker 3>It's about four hundred miles from Anchorage to Fairbanks. That

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<v Speaker 3>mine is a big gravel pit.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where Bob told the caravan of police and search

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<v Speaker 2>crews to pull off the road.

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<v Speaker 3>The crew went out there where we believed that she

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<v Speaker 3>was disposed at. It's airly large gravel pit and you're

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded by mountains. By that time it was wintertime. I

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<v Speaker 3>think at one point it was like four feet of snow.

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<v Speaker 2>Bob Lawson led investigators through the deep snow to where

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<v Speaker 2>he claimed he and his brother Mike dumb Bethany's body

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<v Speaker 2>nine months earlier. After four hours of searching the gravel pit,

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<v Speaker 2>which was the length of two football fields, they called

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<v Speaker 2>off their search.

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<v Speaker 3>We knew that she was there, but we had to

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<v Speaker 3>wait until the snow melted.

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<v Speaker 2>With the search on hold, something unexpected happened. Mike Lawson

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<v Speaker 2>told investigators he was ready to talk and get this.

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<v Speaker 2>Mike told detectives that it was his brother Bob who

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<v Speaker 2>was responsible for Bethany's death, not the other way around,

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<v Speaker 2>and Mike volunteered to wear a wire to prove it.

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<v Speaker 3>If there's anything that could help us find a clue,

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<v Speaker 3>lead a person who might give us more insight, that's

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<v Speaker 3>always what we try to do.

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<v Speaker 2>So now you had two brothers blaming one another for

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<v Speaker 2>the death of Bethany Carrera, would you be willing to

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<v Speaker 2>talk to your brother, and if so, would you be

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<v Speaker 2>willing to let us take record that conversation?

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<v Speaker 1>Sure?

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<v Speaker 2>Join us next week for part two of the search

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<v Speaker 2>for Bethany Carrera. I'm slung Glass. That's next time on

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