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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to Stuff Mom Never told you?

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Speaker 1: From House stuff Works dot com. Hello, and welcome to

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Speaker 1: the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Caroline, and you are

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Speaker 1: in store today for an episode of Summer Shorts. These

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Speaker 1: are somewhat shorter podcasts that we're doing during the summer,

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Speaker 1: hence Summer and Shorts, where we will be talking about brief,

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Speaker 1: fun summary or just random topics that might not warrant

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Speaker 1: entire full length in depth discussions, because, for instance, we're

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Speaker 1: going to talk about the jazz Link today and big

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Speaker 1: surprise here, folks, there's not a lot of clinical research

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Speaker 1: on the jazz Lin. No idea why, But we've wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about Some listeners have written in asking about

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Speaker 1: the jazz ling and I now have to share an

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Speaker 1: embarrassing fact about myself and no, it is not that

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Speaker 1: I have Swarovski crystals on my nether regions. No, it

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Speaker 1: is about how I don't know. Maybe like six or

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Speaker 1: eight months ago, I was perusing the New York Times

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Speaker 1: and ran across a culture column about this British reality

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Speaker 1: television show called The Only Way Is Essex, and the

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Speaker 1: writer said that it's a total guilty pleasure but completely addictive.

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Speaker 1: You can watch it online. So what did I do.

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Speaker 1: I went home and I watched it online and I

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Speaker 1: got hooked. And it is the most they're probably listeners

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Speaker 1: and you can probably relate, like it is beyond fake.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it like the Jersey Shore of England? Yes, but

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Speaker 1: take it. I'm mean I can't. It's all like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've got the fake hands and the plastic surgery and

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Speaker 1: a lot of makeup. Um. But it's also where the

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Speaker 1: jazzlin came into our common vernacular. Started over there with

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Speaker 1: Amy Child, who is one of the most popular characters

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Speaker 1: on The Only Way SESX, and she ended up getting

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Speaker 1: her own spin off show. But she was a cosmetologist

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Speaker 1: who um the jazz Old other characters on there, and

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Speaker 1: she would say, like the jazz Old, jazz Old, and

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Speaker 1: first episodes was of a jazzle episode. So she used

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Speaker 1: to blame well, she used to blame partially in the

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Speaker 1: UK State side, though Jennifer Love Hughett Jennifer Love Huwett,

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Speaker 1: please please tell our fair listeners. She used to blame

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Speaker 1: for so much, but she actually coined the term over

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Speaker 1: here because she was on the George Lopez talk show

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Speaker 1: and started talking about how after going through a breakup,

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Speaker 1: she was really down and a friend decided that she

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Speaker 1: would cheer her up by vegas ling her JJ. Those

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Speaker 1: are her words, and they make me hang my head

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Speaker 1: in shame. But she the actual quote, which I get

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Speaker 1: ready for this, Um, you gotta we can't we We

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Speaker 1: should not paraphrase no j Love Hewett. Yeah, absolutely not mislove.

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Speaker 1: She said that after a breakup, a friend of mine Swarovsky,

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Speaker 1: crystaled my precious lady, and it shined like a disco ball.

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Speaker 1: Women should vegas all their JJ's. I got nothing. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So all of a sudden, there it was like WHOA,

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Speaker 1: what is vegas ling? Yeah? All these people the internet

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Speaker 1: exploded for like a minute and everybody was going like,

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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Jennifer left. He was doing it. I

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Speaker 1: just went through a breakup. Maybe I should put Ryan

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Speaker 1: Stones on my volva now see. I think that the

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Speaker 1: reference of one's vagina as a precious lady. She could

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Speaker 1: have warranted more pressed than the jazz link. But for

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Speaker 1: the uninitiated out there, could you explain what briefly what

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Speaker 1: a the jasle is. Well, sure, first it starts with

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Speaker 1: a waxy. Get a wax and so you're all bear

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Speaker 1: your precious lady is there. Yeah, And then you get

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Speaker 1: you get a little powder softened up the area. And

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Speaker 1: then either a person at a salon will individually glue

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Speaker 1: using tweezers little crystals on there, or you can use

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Speaker 1: Y jazz ln kits you can get some of which

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Speaker 1: Amy Child's actually the only way says that she has

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Speaker 1: her own brand now of jazz kit. Well, she actually

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Speaker 1: inexplicably has a line of hair vejas link kits, which

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Speaker 1: that makes no sense. It's it's rhyme stones for your hair.

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Speaker 1: um a conversation that happened about Vegas, because as you

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Speaker 1: can imagine the feminist blogosphere did not wholeheardly embrace the

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Speaker 1: the George Lopez Show, and she's talking with Sadie Doyle

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Speaker 1: you know, vagina havers need to decorate those crotches. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: They're basic point was okay, well, what's the problem here

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Speaker 1: if we need to decorate them, because they came up

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Speaker 1: with the point that are we just distracting from the

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Speaker 1: fact that it is a vagina. Is a vagina on

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Speaker 1: its own not good enough? Well it's not. It's not

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Speaker 1: enough to have to, you know, remove all the hair

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Speaker 1: City Doyle said, if you need my vagina to dress

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Speaker 1: goes on to say that boyfriends fear the vagina, so

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Speaker 1: they have to make it look like a my little

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Speaker 1: pony with the jas line. Now, I will take issue

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Speaker 1: with the whole idea of the jazzline being a product

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Speaker 1: Usually the men are completely mystified by this. They do

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Speaker 1: not see the point. It's just another thing like women

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Speaker 1: and you're free to make it. Go ahead, do whatever

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Speaker 1: But she writes, I was ecstatic with my vegas al

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Speaker 1: and that's okay, that's fine. I don't all right. But

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Speaker 1: He says, well, he okay. So she's like, hey, do

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Speaker 1: can also combine it with sparkling nipple tassels to create

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Speaker 1: a burlesque inspired This is a quote beauteously enticing ensemble,

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Speaker 1: So forget new shoes, beauteously enticing. And I hope that

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Speaker 1: for who whomever is the recipient of that uh nipple

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Speaker 1: tassel and butterfly merkin combination, that the first two words

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Speaker 1: you sash it forward. And they smoked their bubble pipe.

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Speaker 1: But okay, we're talking all about like, oh ladies, the

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Speaker 1: jazz ling, precious ladies, I should say. But there was

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Speaker 1: also p jas ling. And that is exactly what you

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Speaker 1: assume that it is. It is penis plus the jazz ling,

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Speaker 1: you get p jas ling. But it's not actually on

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Speaker 1: But this was also made popular by by another British

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Speaker 1: reality TV star Mark Right. He was He was also

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Speaker 1: Christen sent Melink, a guy at BuzzFeed, went and got

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