Speaker 1: Well, well, well, we've got.
Speaker 2: The Conference finals matchup set and we'll be discussing the
Speaker 2: Wolves and MAVs. And they walked right into it.
Speaker 1: I told you eventually it'll get to this.
Speaker 3: You guys walking into our look.
Speaker 2: At the stadium, and we'll do We'll be talking plenty
Speaker 2: more with the analysts. Sham podcaster Jamison Willich on today's episode.
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Brett and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is.
Speaker 4: Jack.
Speaker 1: Do you sorry?
Speaker 3: Got it?
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Speaker 3: Look tell shot time you go.
Speaker 1: Yes, welcome, Welcome.
Speaker 2: Jamison Wells Dream was Dead Sports Better and co host
Speaker 2: of the Necessary Ignorance podcast.
Speaker 1: I think one of the last times we spoke, Jack.
Speaker 2: Had made was thinking of taking a few wagers, or
Speaker 2: maybe at the time had just yes and we.
Speaker 3: Just made the wagers.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Came to Phoenix Suns to win the championship and the
Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder to win the championship during the Summer League,
Speaker 4: so I would have I was one hundred, one hundred
Speaker 4: to one, and you said when I met, when I
Speaker 4: told you I made that wager, you thanked me for
Speaker 4: my donation to the city of Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: And it turned out to be exactly that.
Speaker 4: And look at you now, you were you were right.
Speaker 1: All the time, Jamison. Do you like me right all
Speaker 1: the time?
Speaker 5: I like you right most of the time, not all
Speaker 5: the time. You right about the wrong things and ain't good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 3: It was close. I was so close.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you got close.
Speaker 4: I mean I think I told my friend after the fact.
Speaker 4: He was like, oh man, that's a good bet, Like,
Speaker 4: did you hedge? Did you like what? I was like,
Speaker 4: that is one of two bets I made all year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm not You could have that ticket, you know, I
Speaker 4: know I could have it was Poe.
Speaker 3: I thought about it.
Speaker 4: I was like, I should have just sold that ticket
Speaker 4: for a couple hundred bucks or whatever I would have gotten.
Speaker 1: Stay true, stay true.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Anyways, fun well lasted gambling. Huh really makes the games compelling?
Speaker 3: Anyways?
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with dreams of thousands being a thousand ere
Speaker 2: swirling through your little hedge.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: Could have been nice, would have been nice, But anyways,
Speaker 4: I mean, we're going to get to it. I get
Speaker 4: this is a cool statistic that we just found out
Speaker 4: that this is going to be the first time in
Speaker 4: NBA history that there's been a different champion for six
Speaker 4: seasons in a row. Yeah, now that the champ has
Speaker 4: been eliminated.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what a what a tough one? What was like?
Speaker 2: So we're looking, since you're here, Jamison, just looking at
Speaker 2: some odds right now in terms of who could win
Speaker 2: the championship. Boston Celtics minus one fifty, the Wolves plus
Speaker 2: two sixty Mavericks plus five hundred Indiana Pacers plus three
Speaker 2: was just called plus andre three Stacks plus two.
Speaker 5: Thousand, So you can cant up Indy Indies out right.
Speaker 5: So it's auto ma gualt. We're not they're not winning
Speaker 5: two series in a row, So they're eliminated.
Speaker 4: Okay, why is it because they're worse than all three
Speaker 4: of the other teams?
Speaker 5: Is that?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 1: What's what's your trick?
Speaker 5: They can't defit us. They can't defit us none along
Speaker 5: the Celtics, the MAVs or the Wolves. So that's why
Speaker 5: they're out. So you know, it is what it is
Speaker 5: they had right here? Yeah, it's these expectations, but it's
Speaker 5: time to get the reality.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, wait, what do you say?
Speaker 3: Wait?
Speaker 1: So who's your team? The Wolves are the Mavericks.
Speaker 5: I want I have the Wolves, you know, winning this
Speaker 5: upcoming series. Okay, I have a dirty by a team
Speaker 5: that comes out on top. And I think if you
Speaker 5: were to bet it, I would take the Wolves with
Speaker 5: the whole thing at plus two sixty because you're not
Speaker 5: going to get those kind of odds anytime after today,
Speaker 5: So if you're going to bet it, that's the move
Speaker 5: to go. However, in terms of just best odds and possibilities,
Speaker 5: whoever wins the West is your best situation because you're
Speaker 5: not getting any money back on the Celtics. You're getting
Speaker 5: minus money back, so there's no point of betting.
Speaker 4: Then minus one fifty. I'm not I'm not an expert gambler,
Speaker 4: but minus one fifty means that if you bet on
Speaker 4: the Celtics and they win, you have to pay someone
Speaker 4: from Boston one hundred and fifty dollars and they curse.
Speaker 3: That is that correct?
Speaker 5: They are what set you anyway? Yeah? No, it's one
Speaker 5: hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 3: To win one hundred Yeah, Yeah, all.
Speaker 5: Right, that's so there's no value there. You know they're
Speaker 5: the favorite, and you know we'll see we see how
Speaker 5: they've been playing the playoffs. It's just no value there.
Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense. So with that being said, you're
Speaker 5: better off one of the teams from the West with
Speaker 5: everyone you rock with. You go with it and hope
Speaker 5: for the best. That'd be your best bet.
Speaker 1: What's like, what's like an interesting prop bet I could
Speaker 1: take right now?
Speaker 5: So, for instance, there are certain props on how the
Speaker 5: series will end. So for instance, if you have Minnesota,
Speaker 5: Minnesota winning a six game is a prop probably around
Speaker 5: like plus four hundred plus five hundred, and that you know,
Speaker 5: those are where you can get kind of you know,
Speaker 5: intriguing with the serious prices in terms of guessing the
Speaker 5: amount of games that series is going to go. That's
Speaker 5: probably the best bet around this time of the.
Speaker 4: Year, right I For some reason, I'm probably wrong. I
Speaker 4: think I think it's because I just lost money against Dallas.
Speaker 4: So I have like the I don't know if there's
Speaker 4: a gambling term for that, but like the PTSD of
Speaker 4: being soundly whooped by the Dallas Mavericks. But I like
Speaker 4: them more than their odds would indicate it. Like I
Speaker 4: feel like the fact that they have Luke and Kyrie
Speaker 4: out there, even though they haven't been super consistent, they're
Speaker 4: still so dangerous like that. On top of like having
Speaker 4: some size. It's not as much size as Minnesota, but
Speaker 4: I could see Dallas winning this series.
Speaker 3: Personally.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No, they could definitely win it. I don't
Speaker 5: think that's an issue. It's just more of the probability part.
Speaker 5: I think they're alive that. I think if you took
Speaker 5: me to the whole thing, it's a live that. It
Speaker 5: makes sense because in a lot of series they might
Speaker 5: have the best player on the court and a minimum
Speaker 5: they have the best two out of three. Yeah, I
Speaker 5: think you're always got a shot with those matters are
Speaker 5: in yours. However, what that being said is this, they
Speaker 5: have a lot of guys who've never been to this
Speaker 5: point of the season. They're playing big mints, instributing big minutes.
Speaker 5: Gafferd PJ. Washington have never been as far and that's
Speaker 5: always turning to be. They're playing huge minutes. That's always
Speaker 5: an issue. The same with Darrek Jones Jr. As as
Speaker 5: he's been. I just don't know. Halloween is going to
Speaker 5: go going forward, but they've all been great thus far
Speaker 5: up to this point.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, are there any see this is a
Speaker 2: prop that I would have taken, is any active Canadian players,
Speaker 2: they would lose their series.
Speaker 1: And that's what that's what I called.
Speaker 2: After the Drake Kendrick Beef, I was like Jamal Murray,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Shay, I'm sorry. And I was like Matheren
Speaker 2: didn't count because he didn't play, and then uh didn't
Speaker 2: I think? Jabari brought up Dwight Powell and I was like,
Speaker 2: well he barely played, so that that doesn't count either.
Speaker 5: But yeah, Alexander Walker on Minnesota dah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's that's all.
Speaker 3: We're talking stars. We're talking the stars. Yeah yeah, okay, right.
Speaker 1: Exactly, you know what I mean, like, you know the
Speaker 1: ones that are that are getting the headlines, the headlines
Speaker 1: for sure.
Speaker 2: But yeah, but I mean, yeah, the end of that,
Speaker 2: my gosh, I mean like the Wolves Nuggets Game seven,
Speaker 2: just to touch on that briefly, was ah, so.
Speaker 1: You know I knew it all along, you know, that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, never in doubt as far as I was concerned. No,
Speaker 4: I still don't believe that Minnesota won that game. I
Speaker 4: watched the second half twice and I still don't believe it.
Speaker 4: It's uh yeah, they just defensively shut them down in
Speaker 4: a way that we haven't seen. You know, we saw
Speaker 4: it earlier in this series, but that's I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's still like that. I think that's part of the
Speaker 4: thing that's give me a little bit of pause about
Speaker 4: picking them against Dallas is just that even like that
Speaker 4: win wasn't that convincing. And I think it's just because
Speaker 4: they were going against a much better team than anybody
Speaker 4: else was in the Nuggets.
Speaker 3: So I think they'll probably win.
Speaker 4: I just said something about Dallas is making me making
Speaker 4: me pump my brakes a little bit.
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, interesting, Yeah, I mean, what what was that?
Speaker 2: What was that night like for everybody out there who
Speaker 2: was you know, taking action on that Game seven?
Speaker 1: But did it shot?
Speaker 5: Have the Nuggets where there's money line minus four and
Speaker 5: a half, you know a lot of people have over
Speaker 5: as well because you figure, hey, you know, both teams score,
Speaker 5: can score, et cetera, et cetera. Here's here's a secret
Speaker 5: for Game sevens. In most cases, especially when both teams
Speaker 5: play defense, like most times, games go under just because
Speaker 5: it's you know, strong defense, longer possessions. You don't have
Speaker 5: that many easy baskets. So most of the times the
Speaker 5: games go under. Unfortunately, the previous game that was on
Speaker 5: that day did not because you know, team shot like seventy.
Speaker 5: But in most cases the game sevens go under. So
Speaker 5: I wasn't necessarily a surprise that the tempo or the score.
Speaker 5: It was more the why it might go and rest
Speaker 5: sue best players up twenty points right, Like that was
Speaker 5: the biggest thing for me. I didn't get why, like, hey,
Speaker 5: you might want to give the guys a breather while
Speaker 5: you guys are up fifteen to twenty points, and they
Speaker 5: never did that, and in a kind of fading way
Speaker 5: at the end.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was wild.
Speaker 2: They just kind of see just the evolution that I came,
Speaker 2: like from that twenty point lead and then watching the
Speaker 2: Wolves just kind of like claw their way back, and
Speaker 2: then then at a certain point it just felt like
Speaker 2: the Nuggets just were not They just couldn't believe what
Speaker 2: was happening, and it felt like mentally they just kind
Speaker 2: of were sort of like, oh man, we're trying to
Speaker 2: do whatever we can to stay in this thing, but
Speaker 2: it just was not enough.
Speaker 1: And again, like I said, I think that's what happens.
Speaker 1: They got too comfortable beating the Lakers.
Speaker 2: So in a way, this is a victory for the Lakers,
Speaker 2: you know, for everybody to celebrate, because if they didn't
Speaker 2: beat us so badly that they wouldn't they wouldn't be.
Speaker 4: You guys figured out some things that the rest of
Speaker 4: the league saw, and this is really a victory for
Speaker 4: the Lakers above anybody else, above Minnesota.
Speaker 1: Even I would say too.
Speaker 2: You know, we gave them the blueprint that they actually
Speaker 2: executed on it.
Speaker 3: So you're well with.
Speaker 4: But let's take a quick break and we'll come back
Speaker 4: and keep talking Western Conference.
Speaker 3: And we're back.
Speaker 1: We're back.
Speaker 4: So the Dallas went over. Okay, See, as painful as
Speaker 4: it was, I feel like kind of both series in
Speaker 4: the West felt like a real like testament to the
Speaker 4: idea that like size is king right now because everybody,
Speaker 4: at least everybody who's at this stage in the playoffs
Speaker 4: has enough shooters. Like it used to be a novelty
Speaker 4: to have like really good shooting, and now basically everybody
Speaker 4: has shooting, and so then it comes down to like
Speaker 4: who who has enough size inside and with Okay, see
Speaker 4: it was just like they just couldn't get a rebound
Speaker 4: like they and they couldn't stop people at the rim.
Speaker 4: They were just like getting bodied on the inside, which
Speaker 4: is wild, especially when like in the East, like Pascal Siakam,
Speaker 4: like somebody who they could have picked up. I feel
Speaker 4: like was playing such an important role that just just
Speaker 4: felt like you just couldn't need you needed size in
Speaker 4: both cases.
Speaker 1: To do it.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the question I think to looking
Speaker 2: at this series with the with the wolves and the
Speaker 2: maps is like, what how are they matching up with
Speaker 2: you know, Gobert, Cat and Red. I guess like sort
Speaker 2: of like the easy way or the like sort of
Speaker 2: oversimplified ways, Like I don't know how that's all going
Speaker 2: to work out, at least defensively. And I'm now thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm like, does Luca really, Like, I mean, how much
Speaker 2: does work is Luca going to have to do in
Speaker 2: this series too? Because he does not look, you know,
Speaker 2: at his yea and this this is going to demand
Speaker 2: him to play like at one hundred at least one
Speaker 2: hundred and three percent. I feel like to really to
Speaker 2: give us something, But I don't know. That's just kind
Speaker 2: of my my first impression, jamis, so what do you
Speaker 2: what's what are your thoughts looking at this matchup.
Speaker 5: It's a very interesting matchup because you have two teams
Speaker 5: that are kind of in a similar voat. You have
Speaker 5: two kind of younger teams, but they are They have
Speaker 5: a couple of veterans that you know that have been
Speaker 5: there before and made long runs in the playoffs. That
Speaker 5: being said, Minnesota has the better athletes and they have
Speaker 5: a better size. So for me, I think the matchup
Speaker 5: over a series longer it goes. I think if every Minnesota,
Speaker 5: because their size, is gonna wear down Dallas, right, they
Speaker 5: have defenders to throw out Luca. They have guys that
Speaker 5: can really defend. Jay McDaniels is a really good defender.
Speaker 5: He might be the best io defender in the league
Speaker 5: right now, which is a huge statement to say, but
Speaker 5: he might be. But they have got off the bench
Speaker 5: they can throw on Luca as well. They're gonna take
Speaker 5: their chance to look Kyrie with Conley and and and
Speaker 5: whatnot mixing things That was so set interesting to see
Speaker 5: how that goes. But I'm looking forward to seeing the
Speaker 5: rebounding because in the previous series, the MAVs were destroying. Okay,
Speaker 5: see on the boards us every time they were getting
Speaker 5: off the rebound, they're getting a big tip out. They're
Speaker 5: always getting the keyboards. I don't think they're gonna out
Speaker 5: rebound Minnesota. I just don't see that. So that's gonna
Speaker 5: be very especially with nas Reads in the game because
Speaker 5: he's a great off of the rebounder, and I just
Speaker 5: don't know how it's gonna work for Dallas. With that
Speaker 5: being said, Luke is very special and he finds a way,
Speaker 5: he finds a way to get quality shots. If he's
Speaker 5: going he's gonna hit you know, the twenty someone foot
Speaker 5: step back. So it's gonna be very inting to see
Speaker 5: what happens there. But if if Minnesota is able to
Speaker 5: control Kyrie and Luke and they're not going crazy at first,
Speaker 5: Minnesota great league.
Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. I no longer have a feeling
Speaker 4: about Dallas, but I'm over that now. You've convinced me otherwise.
Speaker 4: So just like back to Game seven, I mean, I
Speaker 4: think part of the thing that still seems so strange
Speaker 4: is that Murray was finally like putting it together, had
Speaker 4: thirty five points.
Speaker 3: Jokic had thirty four.
Speaker 4: Nineteen seven assists and is just they just like the
Speaker 4: shot stopped going in at a certain point and Minnesota's
Speaker 4: defense really picked it up. But it was like, yeah,
Speaker 4: it was almost like an optical illusion. But like I mean,
Speaker 4: you had like Michael Porter Junior's shot not falling and
Speaker 4: then just Minnesota hitting some big shots. Cat coming through
Speaker 4: in a way that I still have a hard time
Speaker 4: like believe it, like being like, yeah, I'm comfortable with
Speaker 4: him being like the number one offensive option sometimes down
Speaker 4: the stretch of these games, but it feels like he's
Speaker 4: totally comfortable with that doubt and he's still you know,
Speaker 4: making shots I didn't know he was capable of making,
Speaker 4: both in terms of like how big they were and
Speaker 4: how difficult they are, so pretty pretty impressive, and then
Speaker 4: ant just being a lot of fun. The waving to
Speaker 4: the crowd moment was a lot of fun. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: with Yok being like why why why and Aunt being
Speaker 4: confused point.
Speaker 2: At the scoreboard, He's like because of that, man, yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like the game's about to be over and you're cooked.
Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean at the beginning though, too, I felt like
Speaker 2: that was the biggest impression that like I got, was
Speaker 2: like oh, Kat is playing at a completely different level
Speaker 2: in this series. So yeah, is your concern that that
Speaker 2: was just for this series and he may.
Speaker 4: Have a bit of a regression or yeah, and just
Speaker 4: like past playoff performances where he's like kind of disappeared
Speaker 4: or like gotten into early foul trouble, I mean the
Speaker 4: fact that he still got into early foul trouble in
Speaker 4: this game and still was able to you know, be
Speaker 4: uh was he their leading score? But I mean he
Speaker 4: was certainly like their number one offensive option, most consistent
Speaker 4: option in the game. Yeah, So I don't know, hitting
Speaker 4: Chuck with a classic response to finding out that Chuck
Speaker 4: hadn't been to Minnesota in twenty years where he told
Speaker 4: him to bring his ass to Minnesota.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and then they also turn it into the
Speaker 2: part of the Minnesota tourism website too.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, nice to see them.
Speaker 4: A www dot bring Yeah dot com. Now bring Cia
Speaker 4: Oh yes, does it seem like bring yas bring.
Speaker 1: Gas dot com? Yeah? Yeah, no, no, we shall see. Uh,
Speaker 1: maybe he'll go.
Speaker 2: Because the website even had if you looked on the website,
Speaker 2: they even put little things that were like little messages
Speaker 2: to Charles Barkley, like on some of the pictures.
Speaker 1: They're like, Sir Charles could even enjoy James Beard Award
Speaker 1: winning cuisine, so they put a lot into that.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I think also the MAVs without.
Speaker 2: Without Maxie, I think is also just going to make
Speaker 2: things very, very difficult.
Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I I would love to see Luca
Speaker 2: give a masterclass. And I know, like probably as we're
Speaker 2: recording this, game one will have already happened. I believe,
Speaker 2: so well, the MAVs lose this one like they have
Speaker 2: as tradition.
Speaker 3: Tells us to. They like to watch you game one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, like whatever's meant
Speaker 2: to happen is going to happen. But does that affect
Speaker 2: the odds at all?
Speaker 5: Jameson Uh So game ones are interesting like game ones
Speaker 5: and depending on the odds in general, so the series
Speaker 5: odds will here's the strategy. So let's say you like Indiana, right,
Speaker 5: if they lose game one, their series of odds are
Speaker 5: gonna plumb it because obviously the underdog they lost one
Speaker 5: game et cetera, et cetera. Uh, if you like, and
Speaker 5: then you wait until game one ends. More life people
Speaker 5: hosting the wins. Did you bet a need to win
Speaker 5: the series because the odds be tremendously in your favor.
Speaker 5: So if they do pull it off, you get a
Speaker 5: nice large sum of funds that they're called the series.
Speaker 5: So that's a strategy for that. When it comes to
Speaker 5: each game, the spread normally to spread every now they're
Speaker 5: up or down based off of an injury or something
Speaker 5: like that. But the spread and the toes are what they.
Speaker 2: Are, right right, Yeah, I mean yeah, well we will
Speaker 2: see what happens. I mean if if they get to
Speaker 2: game seven, Like what what does that effect? I mean, like,
Speaker 2: you know Kyrie being you know it was like fourteen
Speaker 2: and oh or something in those closeout games.
Speaker 1: Does that Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, and like I feel like
Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing like someone like I would
Speaker 2: hold on to as contorted logic to be like and
Speaker 2: you know he's fourteen and no, so oh I lost
Speaker 2: so much money?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we shall see. Moved to the East.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, the Pacers beat the Knicks, uh
Speaker 2: in stunning fashion.
Speaker 1: I would say, uh in that game seven.
Speaker 4: And calories for the Knicks not at calories. That was
Speaker 4: my theory on the Lakers. It just felt like they
Speaker 4: were running out of gas at the end of these games,
Speaker 4: and the Knicks weren't running out of gas at the
Speaker 4: end of the games, but they ran out of gas
Speaker 4: at the end.
Speaker 3: Of the series. It felt like, yeah.
Speaker 2: And biased basically, it's just yeah, it was that was
Speaker 2: that was tough at the end. I was really hoping
Speaker 2: for for the Knicks. But the Pacers are now going
Speaker 2: to be matching up with the Celtics. What Celtics won
Speaker 2: three of those five games in the regular season and
Speaker 2: n season tournament for zingis still not sure. They say
Speaker 2: at least the first two games. But I mean, it
Speaker 2: was like, what was he predicted before? Like, are we
Speaker 2: just doing this thing where we keep kicking the can
Speaker 2: down the road and be like, yeah, at least the
Speaker 2: next couple of games, at least the next couple.
Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's out, he's out. He's out.
Speaker 2: We don't, you know, because maybe they don't want it
Speaker 2: to show their hand too much, but yeah, I'm curious
Speaker 2: what they're.
Speaker 4: Just keeping it quiet. It feels yeah, we won't know
Speaker 4: until we know. Could be that he pops out Game one,
Speaker 4: could be that he's out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, based on his reaction when he
Speaker 2: was hurt that like the bearing the jersey, your head.
Speaker 1: In the jersey is always the universal sign of.
Speaker 2: But but yeah, and I guess I mean like looking
Speaker 2: at this, I don't know, I feel like we were
Speaker 2: saying at the top, what are the chances of the
Speaker 2: Pacers getting out of this? I see like Celtics fans
Speaker 2: online and they're basically like, you know, the thing is
Speaker 2: we needed any like we were owed an easy path
Speaker 2: to the finals this year, you know, so like I'm
Speaker 2: not going to let anybody take that we can't enjoy this.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Wow, no.
Speaker 4: Way, are you inviting bad karma? Yeah. Bill Simmons on
Speaker 4: his podcast was like, I'm not saying the Pacers are bad,
Speaker 4: but let's just like list the five worst teams to
Speaker 4: ever make the Eastern Conference finals. I was like, and
Speaker 4: he was like, I don't think the Pacers are as
Speaker 4: bad as those teams, but pretty bad. Yeah, Like, I mean,
Speaker 4: if if it wasn't the Celtics playing against them, he
Speaker 4: would have said that. But he's he believes them reverse
Speaker 4: jinxes and all that stuff.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Jamison, any any hope, I mean betting or not?
Speaker 1: This is just it is. It has been for to
Speaker 1: hold a mistake.
Speaker 5: I think the Pacers are three and two Celtics this
Speaker 5: year with the n CEAS Tournament included. Whatever you have
Speaker 5: offense like the Pacers h and also the somethings don't
Speaker 5: score easy baskets like they shoot a lot of jumpers
Speaker 5: as a team, a lot correct And when you think
Speaker 5: about how they play in the games that they lose,
Speaker 5: they're all similar. They doss a lot of jumpers, a
Speaker 5: lot of threes, and they fell to defend the rim
Speaker 5: and that with them, Yeah, always it like it's always
Speaker 5: game two, but this yeraries. I think it might go.
Speaker 5: I think they might have a couple of losses in
Speaker 5: the series. Okay, they're Indians, gonna win one at home
Speaker 5: in the crowd, the kind of offense they have, They're
Speaker 5: gonna win one at home at least. I do think
Speaker 5: he is gonna still win in Boston, whether it's Game
Speaker 5: one or two, not sure, but then they're gonna still
Speaker 5: won there just because of the way they play. It's
Speaker 5: hard to compare for a team that shoots like this
Speaker 5: and plays this contempo, and Boston is a very thin team.
Speaker 5: In turn of rotation, they don't have a lot of
Speaker 5: guys they can trust. Colak the Knicks did the last series,
Speaker 5: they eventually wore down. Now it's just sometimes way more talent,
Speaker 5: so that will eventually prevail. But I think this years
Speaker 5: goes on a little bit longer than people expect.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel that way too.
Speaker 4: And the other thing that I think the Pacers I've
Speaker 4: gone for them is I think Carlisle is a pretty
Speaker 4: good coach and like he's one of the only people
Speaker 4: that I've seen like swing a series, you know, like
Speaker 4: I've seen him win serieses before, which is there's like
Speaker 4: a handful of people you can say that about as coaches, but.
Speaker 3: He's like one of those dudes.
Speaker 4: And the celic like, I don't know, Joe Mazola like
Speaker 4: obviously is doing a great job with the Celtics. They're
Speaker 4: one of the like statistically, one of the best teams
Speaker 4: of all time, but like the second they lose a game,
Speaker 4: their fans are like, Mossola sucks. Yah, you know, like
Speaker 4: they every time after those game two is They're like,
Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here watching Spolstra out coach Mozola and
Speaker 4: it makes me sick. They like it feels like it's
Speaker 4: a concern for Celtics fans, uh for sure.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're always out matched and that's the match
Speaker 5: that they're not gonna win versus any coach likes a
Speaker 5: young coach, so it really don't fault to his own. Yeah, well,
Speaker 5: the guys that are left, he's he's out in that regard.
Speaker 5: The best bet would be just having the guys as
Speaker 5: play as good as they can. But the chess matches
Speaker 5: he's always gonna lose at this.
Speaker 2: Point, right Yeah, yeah, so I mean, yeah, I'm hopefully
Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton can also find a bit of form too here,
Speaker 2: because yeah, that is like a back injury, right that
Speaker 2: he's dealing with.
Speaker 1: Just did not Uh, I'm just I'm hoping. I would love.
Speaker 5: I would be better than his wardrobe.
Speaker 1: Yeah for real, I just need Yeah, I would love.
Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to have a foregone conclusion about
Speaker 2: this year is I would love nothing more for this
Speaker 2: to go down to the wire and hey, even Indiana
Speaker 2: to win, you know, because I'm not.
Speaker 1: Biased at all, and that's just that's just what I'm thinking.
Speaker 4: I am incredibly biased. I have said from the beginning
Speaker 4: of this season that I viewed this season as the
Speaker 4: Celtics versus the field, and I'm rooting for the field.
Speaker 4: There is part of me and maybe this is also
Speaker 4: tying into like my Minnesota like you know, bafflement over
Speaker 4: is like I was like, I've really felt like the
Speaker 4: Nuggets had the best chance of beating the Celtics and
Speaker 4: we just lost them. I was rooting for Minnesota, Like
Speaker 4: I found myself rooting for Minnesota, and then when the
Speaker 4: game was over, I was like, oh, no, what have
Speaker 4: we done. We love your chan that was going to
Speaker 4: beat the Celtics. But I don't know, like Minnesota versus
Speaker 4: the Celtics would be a good would be a good matchup,
Speaker 4: and I think the Pacers heading into the last two games,
Speaker 4: I was like, the Knicks are the best chance, Like
Speaker 4: they're gonna give the Celtics the toughest series. And by
Speaker 4: the end of the game seven, I was like, I'm
Speaker 4: really glad this Pacers team won. They can score in
Speaker 4: a lot of weird ways, and you know, in a
Speaker 4: seven game series with a coach as good as Carlisle,
Speaker 4: maybe you can figure some things out defensively, you know.
Speaker 1: So yeah, Jameson, how do you how do you view
Speaker 1: this one.
Speaker 2: I mean, I guess more in terms of like the
Speaker 2: inevitability of the Celtics going all the way, but just
Speaker 2: sort of in this round.
Speaker 1: In the next, how do you see it shaken out?
Speaker 5: So I think the Celtics get through the series in
Speaker 5: six games or less. I think any it gets a
Speaker 5: game or two. But I just really about it. It's
Speaker 5: hard when you defend that poorly. If you can't really
Speaker 5: act in the win three games defending like that, it
Speaker 5: just doesn't work. I'd be extremely surprised. With that being said,
Speaker 5: Boston has been underwhelming in these playoffs, Like for a
Speaker 5: team with that record and the stats that they have,
Speaker 5: you really haven't been that impressed by them. Like you
Speaker 5: look at them like, Okay, they're cool, like they're you know,
Speaker 5: they're doing what they should do. But it's not like,
Speaker 5: oh wow, this is a sixty one team that's dominating.
Speaker 5: You don't get that field right, not from watching them.
Speaker 5: So there's been a lot of inconsistencies from them, you know,
Speaker 5: at best, and that's where it's like, ah, don't quite know. However,
Speaker 5: I will say this Minnesota is well suited to play anyone.
Speaker 5: Think they give everyone matchup problems and if I had
Speaker 5: to pick today, they would be the favorite one the
Speaker 5: whole thing, because no one has the size, and no
Speaker 5: one has the defense that they have. The way they
Speaker 5: defend at both ends and on the rim and on
Speaker 5: the perimeter, that's thing that no one else really has
Speaker 5: to combat with, and that, to me is gonna be
Speaker 5: difference between them and everybody else.
Speaker 4: So my fear, my counter to that would be that
Speaker 4: Minnesota versus the Celtics, like of all the teams that
Speaker 4: are left, Minnesota feels like they have the shakiest perimeter shooting,
Speaker 4: like they can go cold from outside, and the Celtics
Speaker 4: have great perimeter defense, right, So like I could see
Speaker 4: that being a problem that comes back and by them
Speaker 4: if it ends up being that series.
Speaker 5: So you're right, But the thing is they offer the
Speaker 5: rebounds well, so.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so they get extra looks.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly. That's where That's what happened. The fourth
Speaker 5: quarter was Denver, but they didn't shoot that great like,
Speaker 5: it was just that whenever they shot it and they missed,
Speaker 5: they got it right back and that was issue. That's
Speaker 5: why it's warded for Down and Denver have been all
Speaker 5: their starters of the whole game. Basically, and you saw
Speaker 5: they just weren't able to get those loose balls. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Really, it's like a just a mind like a perspective
Speaker 4: shift of being like, oh yeah, just rebounding is so
Speaker 4: like rebounding determined the seventy six ers Nick series because
Speaker 4: the Sixers were just too slow to get to the
Speaker 4: ball a lot of the time. Rebounding determined so many
Speaker 4: of these series. It feels like it's an ascendant skill
Speaker 4: right now, Like it's obviously always been important, but now
Speaker 4: I feel like, for the first time, we're seeing it
Speaker 4: like swing series in a way that's pretty like definitive
Speaker 4: and noticeable.
Speaker 5: Right. Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, As producer Jabari put in our chat here, as
Speaker 2: the Great pat Riley said no rebounds, no rings.
Speaker 4: And he stole that from me. Yeah, he didsing my style.
Speaker 1: And you saw that from Adrian Brody and.
Speaker 4: I did steal it from Adrian Brody.
Speaker 2: But also, like Jameson, you were saying you weren't as
Speaker 2: impressed me because they were the the Celtics were winning
Speaker 2: their games on average by like about nineteen points. Does
Speaker 2: that is that I'm just guessing you're looking at more
Speaker 2: than just what the score was at the end.
Speaker 1: To say, like you weren't completely impressed by what they
Speaker 1: were doing.
Speaker 5: So when Don Mitchell went out in that last series, yeah,
Speaker 5: I was expecting the series basically over hey there, you know,
Speaker 5: and it wasn't. The games were way too close for you.
Speaker 5: Look at the cows. They really didn't have a whole
Speaker 5: lot there, you know. I mean Mobile played well, Garland did,
Speaker 5: and a couple of other guys in decent moments, but there
Speaker 5: was really nothing there. But you know, having a two
Speaker 5: game or in some parts in the one game, and
Speaker 5: it's like, wait a minute, it's the team that everyone's
Speaker 5: tongue to worry about, and they're not blowing the steam
Speaker 5: off from the gig go. It was kind of odd.
Speaker 5: And even in the first season, like Miami didn't have
Speaker 5: a lot of shot right, Like they didn't have you know, Jimmy,
Speaker 5: they are really long guys, and they stole a game.
Speaker 5: Now granted they had like twenties three, so whatever. But
Speaker 5: it's just when you've built dominant teams, you want to
Speaker 5: see them put away the inferior talent as quickly as
Speaker 5: possible right away.
Speaker 1: Yeah, got you.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because they there's so much variance going both ways.
Speaker 4: I mean, they shoot a lot of threes and a
Speaker 4: lot of them go in. But I think that's where
Speaker 4: one of the arguments I've heard against the Celtics being
Speaker 4: this historically great team is. You know, we've talked about
Speaker 4: the Tatum one. That's like in the playoffs, your best
Speaker 4: player matters. You need somebody who's like the best player
Speaker 4: on the court. Tatum can be the best player on
Speaker 4: the court, but he's not as good as some of
Speaker 4: these historically great teams best player, right, which like the
Speaker 4: other historically great teams is like Jordan. But the other
Speaker 4: one is just like they're winning by a lot because
Speaker 4: they shoot so many threes, and that like puts them
Speaker 4: up by a ton of points. And they're still like
Speaker 4: gunning threes late into games, so that like put them
Speaker 4: put them up by a lot. But the variance means
Speaker 4: that it can go the opposite direction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have that like, yeah, cutthroat domination that
Speaker 2: you're looking for.
Speaker 3: I get that, I mean, but it does They're still
Speaker 3: pretty good.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
Speaker 2: I mean, look again, I'm trying to tell myself everything
Speaker 2: I can so I avoid having to see a Celtics
Speaker 2: jersey with that little number eighteen on the back of it.
Speaker 1: Do not want to see that at all.
Speaker 4: But if the Wolves win, that's basically number eighteen for
Speaker 4: you guys, right.
Speaker 1: If the Wolves win, obviously that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4: Well basically the Lakers want you know, first of all,
Speaker 4: you were originally from Minneapolis.
Speaker 3: You guys showed them how to beat Is this logic?
Speaker 2: But yes, thank you, thank you, yes, yes, help me cope,
Speaker 2: help me COPD please please?
Speaker 1: All right, shall we go to the most explosive part
Speaker 1: of the pod?
Speaker 5: Guys?
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, oh you gotta stop and get under
Speaker 4: my desk with my hands over my head.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3: Labored, but I think we got there.
Speaker 2: It's like also a reference to the Cold War. But hey, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll take that. We'll take kids.
Speaker 3: You get this right?
Speaker 1: Wait, do we need to do another break?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's right, we do need to do at breaks.
Speaker 3: I thought that was what we call a tease in
Speaker 3: the business.
Speaker 1: No, that's what we call Uh.
Speaker 2: I'm kind of off my game in the business right now,
Speaker 2: but guess what, I'm right back, and we will be
Speaker 2: back with the fourth quarter RAPI fire round of questioning
Speaker 2: right after this, and we are back jameson my good man,
Speaker 2: you've wandered into the rapid fire round of questions.
Speaker 1: We're just you. You've done this before. We're hitting me
Speaker 1: with some questions.
Speaker 2: Don't expand on your answers, give us quick responses, right
Speaker 2: back to us.
Speaker 1: And if if you take too long, we.
Speaker 2: Will be very rude, and we are very impatient, and
Speaker 2: we will be very immature. But I know you can
Speaker 2: handle it because you're in Las Vegas dealing with people
Speaker 2: maybe as irrational as me.
Speaker 1: So I think you're prepared. Are you ready though?
Speaker 5: Yes?
Speaker 1: Okay, Jamison's ready?
Speaker 3: Right start o'clock.
Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to eject? Should I go first?
Speaker 1: Or do you want to go first?
Speaker 4: Uh?
Speaker 1: You can? You can go man, It's cool, all right, Jamison.
Speaker 2: You can go back in time to personally witness any
Speaker 2: of the following iconic moments. The first one, Magic's Baby
Speaker 2: Skyhook in the garden in nineteen eighty seven. And I
Speaker 2: will play the clips just to remind you of how
Speaker 2: beautiful these moments were. Cooper takes the ball out of
Speaker 2: bounds baseline, mariemn Worthy is the left.
Speaker 1: Worthy comes to the right, the left goes madd You's
Speaker 1: got to he didn't shot a five seconds left Maddie
Speaker 1: gotta metal. Just what I thought.
Speaker 5: I Well, go second, the Lakers take the lead on
Speaker 5: Magic Johnson's running skyhook.
Speaker 2: Hey Jack, that was you, pat Riley, there is.
Speaker 1: Man chick on miss chick. Okay, the opportunity number two,
Speaker 1: by the way, number two.
Speaker 4: My six year old just saw the year nineteen eighty
Speaker 4: something and he was like one thousand, nine hundred eighty.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, you're born man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that there were numbers from then. Yeah, there
Speaker 2: were numbers from then. All right, Jamison Moment two, run
Speaker 2: our test that three pointer in Game seven against the
Speaker 2: Celtics straight into my veins.
Speaker 1: Why I'm looking more test? Shout out to my therapist
Speaker 1: on that one.
Speaker 2: And then finally, Kobe Bryant clutch Finals performance.
Speaker 1: After Shack goes out Game four in the two thousand finals,
Speaker 1: try to go get rose.
Speaker 3: Now Indiana has five fouls.
Speaker 4: The Patriots do not want to fail here, put Kobe
Speaker 4: on the line.
Speaker 1: Kobe fires the jumper and gives l A the lead.
Speaker 2: Okay, So then here it is, Jamison, of those three
Speaker 2: moments in history, which one are you showing up to
Speaker 2: so you can witness personally with your eyes?
Speaker 5: Well, I saw the last two like a lot, well
Speaker 5: you know on TV. Yeah, yeah, that the first one
Speaker 5: I was. I was really young, So I probably on
Speaker 5: that one because I was way more intent because of
Speaker 5: where it was located at the history at the time. Uh,
Speaker 5: the players out on the court, So I'd probably go
Speaker 5: acted that one. The other two I remember very vividly.
Speaker 5: I watched the game in four Uh. The third one,
Speaker 5: I had a lot of money on the line to
Speaker 5: that one, so I don't want to but yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: i'd probably go the first one.
Speaker 1: Yeah, magic Baby skyhooking the garden. Yeah, that you could.
Speaker 4: Give yourself a sports almana can be come like like
Speaker 4: in the country. Yeah all right, Uh, face of the
Speaker 4: NBA for the next five years?
Speaker 3: Could it be me? I don't play basketball, but I.
Speaker 4: Don't know off the table now we have this podcast,
Speaker 4: No Face of the NBA for the next five years
Speaker 4: or faces.
Speaker 5: One? Because he has a personality with the game. Well
Speaker 5: there's guys that are just as talented, but the personality
Speaker 5: that goes with the game.
Speaker 3: In this way, it's can we come up with a
Speaker 3: better nickname for him?
Speaker 4: I feel like somebody was pointing out on Twitter and
Speaker 4: this has been a frequent thing. Like people were like,
Speaker 4: what happened to NBA nicknames? On Reddit three years ago?
Speaker 4: Someone was like Kemp was rain Man, Peyton Glove, Dominique,
Speaker 4: the Human Highlight Film, Barkley, the Round Mound of Rebound,
Speaker 4: Michael Jordan Air Jordan, Like these are great poetic nicknames,
Speaker 4: and now it's like Anthony Edwards. Well, the first three
Speaker 4: letters of his name is ant Okay, okay, we'll call
Speaker 4: it him ant man.
Speaker 2: Like what about this Tony no Man?
Speaker 3: That's just like a normal nickname?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, all right, what about anton?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: So what about a e.
Speaker 5: The reason why we don't have great nicknames anymore is
Speaker 5: because we know these guys from when they're like fifteen
Speaker 5: years old, so there's no mystery anymore. We just called
Speaker 5: them by their name or call them whatever nickname they
Speaker 5: already have. So we've known them, we've seen them do aau,
Speaker 5: seem to do high school. There's no more intrigue anymore.
Speaker 5: Back in the day when Sean Kent was dunk on everybody,
Speaker 5: that was the first time you saw it. When we
Speaker 5: got the NBA, we see all these high these guys
Speaker 5: who are fourteen fifteen years old, right, So there's no
Speaker 5: more mystery entrigue to them, so it just is what
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 2: But do you do you personally miss like a good
Speaker 2: nickname or you're just like it's fine, let's just call
Speaker 2: him aunt, let's call him ae whatever.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I do miss a good nickname. However, the issue
Speaker 5: is this, the people will pray nicknames that shouldn't be
Speaker 5: doing it. We need people who are cool and have
Speaker 5: doing it. People trying to be cool and go viral
Speaker 5: like laying with that. And I think that's a big
Speaker 5: issue that we have on social media when it comes.
Speaker 4: To basketball whatnot, Like some of them, like Barkley being
Speaker 4: the round mound of rebound, like that is too sweaty
Speaker 4: to like for that to work today. Like granted it's
Speaker 4: a lot of fun, but it only was possible because
Speaker 4: there were like the beat reporter for the Sixers was
Speaker 4: like I came up with this and I'm going to
Speaker 4: keep repeating it until everybody else does, you know, Like
Speaker 4: there was like that old media model, whereas now like
Speaker 4: I don't think you can get the round mound of
Speaker 4: rebound started.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you can't.
Speaker 2: You can't do like nicknames that sound like an intro
Speaker 2: bar and like a Sugarhill Gang rap song.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's rebound.
Speaker 4: It's like no I've ever gone over your friend's as
Speaker 4: eat and the food just ain't no good.
Speaker 5: All yes, wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we need something. That's what we need.
Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta go to the next We need,
Speaker 2: we need something. We need bars okay when it comes
Speaker 2: to these nicknames. So yeah, the the challenge is out there,
Speaker 2: all right. So James, the next question, Barkley's Hall of
Speaker 2: Fame career or former guest the Matt Boosti's Robert Ory's
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame.
Speaker 5: Career Barkley seven rings is right, But I would take
Speaker 5: Barkley's career. He was a living team, made a lot
Speaker 5: of money. He's still making a lot of money. He's
Speaker 5: he's just he's just amount of famous you want to be.
Speaker 5: People know you don't know too much about you, and
Speaker 5: I think that's always cool.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 5: But Barkley, Yeah, Barkley at one point time the top
Speaker 5: of me play in the NBA and that was never
Speaker 5: the case for Robert or you know, he had a
Speaker 5: Hall of a career, did what he did. But I
Speaker 5: would take Barkley's career ten times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and we did, of course say Robert Ory is
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. He's not Basketball Hall of Fame, but
Speaker 4: he's in the much more important Uh, Miles and Jack
Speaker 4: got Matt Boosti's Hall of so But.
Speaker 1: He's gonna have a shot, won't he.
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 4: I mean, Barkley definitely has a shot at the Miles
Speaker 4: and Jackot mat Boosti's Hall of Fame needs to come on,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: But I mean exactly.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people are asking, why is he
Speaker 3: ducking us? Yeah, a lot of people are saying, I
Speaker 3: don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I read Interesting to find out.
Speaker 1: I read the book about his life. Seems pretty interesting.
Speaker 1: Seems like an interesting guy.
Speaker 3: All right.
Speaker 4: Someone's planning to come to Vegas for Summer League and
Speaker 4: the second annual NBA Con this July. What restaurant do
Speaker 4: they need to check out that folks don't know about?
Speaker 5: So it depends on what they like to eat, you know,
Speaker 5: I asked that's the first question, or like they ask
Speaker 5: people like, Hey, what are you feeling? What are you
Speaker 5: in the mood for? However, if you're coming to Vegas,
Speaker 5: it's a little bit out of the way. But if
Speaker 5: you're gonna get barbecue, you gotta go to John Mules.
Speaker 5: It's about twenty five minutes away from the Strip and
Speaker 5: where NBA con or something like that. But it's the
Speaker 5: best barbecue in the city. Best prices, best value, best taste.
Speaker 5: You can't go wrong John Mules, road Killed brick, best
Speaker 5: barbecue the city.
Speaker 3: Is that where roadkill?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 3: Is that for real?
Speaker 5: Well? And so they have like a meat market, they
Speaker 5: also have barbecues all of the sides and the meat
Speaker 5: choices and you can't go wrong. It's really really good.
Speaker 1: What style of barbecue we're talking here.
Speaker 5: It's a mixture of West Coast and Texas.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, they have everything though.
Speaker 5: They have white beef ribs, they have regular ribs, risk
Speaker 5: it burnt ends, the big beef ribs, chicken links, ball nine.
Speaker 5: I think Jack right, have to go all the sides.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go. We're gonna have to go
Speaker 1: the NBA. You heard it. We're gonna have to go,
Speaker 1: and we're going to I mean, last time.
Speaker 3: We went out, we're out of town.
Speaker 1: We also got barbecue in.
Speaker 2: Texas, so we must keep this tradition alive. John Mules,
Speaker 2: We're coming for you, Jamison. Thank you so much for
Speaker 2: joining us on Miles and Jack Got mad Boosties. Where
Speaker 2: do the people find you? Follow you, interact with your.
Speaker 5: Work on Twitter at the Jamison. I'll be on you
Speaker 5: in Las Vegas here throughout the playoffs in the finals
Speaker 5: and then of course Summer League coming up with NBA
Speaker 5: Con so you'll see me out there and yeah, I'll
Speaker 5: be here throughout bowls.
Speaker 3: Okay, amazing.
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Speaker 1: That's our guarantee.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, You're welcome everyone.
Speaker 2: You're welcome Minnesota, bet All, you don't want to You're
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Speaker 2: that's also our win too.
Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see you next week.
Speaker 2: Alright, you're sure, sure,