1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:03,760 Speaker 1: Well, well, well, we've got. 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: The Conference finals matchup set and we'll be discussing the 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 2: Wolves and MAVs. And they walked right into it. 4 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 1: I told you eventually it'll get to this. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: You guys walking into our look. 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 2: At the stadium, and we'll do We'll be talking plenty 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 2: more with the analysts. Sham podcaster Jamison Willich on today's episode. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: I'm Miles Brett and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is. 9 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:32,840 Speaker 4: Jack. 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: Do you sorry? 11 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 3: Got it? 12 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Look at h Okay, there you go and be driving spinning. 13 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 1: Katie from Brown's got it with five? He's gonna try 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: another three, mister o'bron James, honest. 15 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 3: Look tell shot time you go. 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: Yes, welcome, Welcome. 17 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: Jamison Wells Dream was Dead Sports Better and co host 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 2: of the Necessary Ignorance podcast. 19 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: I think one of the last times we spoke, Jack. 20 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: Had made was thinking of taking a few wagers, or 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: maybe at the time had just yes and we. 22 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 3: Just made the wagers. 23 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah. 24 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 4: Came to Phoenix Suns to win the championship and the 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 4: Oklahoma City Thunder to win the championship during the Summer League, 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: so I would have I was one hundred, one hundred 27 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 4: to one, and you said when I met, when I 28 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 4: told you I made that wager, you thanked me for 29 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 4: my donation to the city of Las Vegas. 30 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: And it turned out to be exactly that. 31 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 4: And look at you now, you were you were right. 32 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: All the time, Jamison. Do you like me right all 33 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 1: the time? 34 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 5: I like you right most of the time, not all 35 00:01:56,640 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 5: the time. You right about the wrong things and ain't good. 36 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's true, that's true. That's true. 37 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: It was close. I was so close. 38 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:04,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, you got close. 39 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 4: I mean I think I told my friend after the fact. 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 4: He was like, oh man, that's a good bet, Like, 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: did you hedge? Did you like what? I was like, 42 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 4: that is one of two bets I made all year. Yeah, 43 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: I'm not You could have that ticket, you know, I 44 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 4: know I could have it was Poe. 45 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 3: I thought about it. 46 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 4: I was like, I should have just sold that ticket 47 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: for a couple hundred bucks or whatever I would have gotten. 48 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:28,839 Speaker 1: Stay true, stay true. 49 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Yeah. 50 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 4: Anyways, fun well lasted gambling. Huh really makes the games compelling? 51 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 3: Anyways? 52 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, especially with dreams of thousands being a thousand ere 53 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 2: swirling through your little hedge. 54 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:43,440 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. 55 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 4: Could have been nice, would have been nice, But anyways, 56 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 4: I mean, we're going to get to it. I get 57 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 4: this is a cool statistic that we just found out 58 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: that this is going to be the first time in 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,959 Speaker 4: NBA history that there's been a different champion for six 60 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 4: seasons in a row. Yeah, now that the champ has 61 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 4: been eliminated. 62 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, what a what a tough one? What was like? 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: So we're looking, since you're here, Jamison, just looking at 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 2: some odds right now in terms of who could win 65 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:22,120 Speaker 2: the championship. Boston Celtics minus one fifty, the Wolves plus 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 2: two sixty Mavericks plus five hundred Indiana Pacers plus three 67 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: was just called plus andre three Stacks plus two. 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,640 Speaker 5: Thousand, So you can cant up Indy Indies out right. 69 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 5: So it's auto ma gualt. We're not they're not winning 70 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: two series in a row, So they're eliminated. 71 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 4: Okay, why is it because they're worse than all three 72 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 4: of the other teams? 73 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 5: Is that? 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: Why? 75 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: What's what's your trick? 76 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 5: They can't defit us. They can't defit us none along 77 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 5: the Celtics, the MAVs or the Wolves. So that's why 78 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 5: they're out. So you know, it is what it is 79 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: they had right here? Yeah, it's these expectations, but it's 80 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 5: time to get the reality. 81 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, wait, what do you say? 82 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 3: Wait? 83 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: So who's your team? The Wolves are the Mavericks. 84 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 5: I want I have the Wolves, you know, winning this 85 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 5: upcoming series. Okay, I have a dirty by a team 86 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 5: that comes out on top. And I think if you 87 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 5: were to bet it, I would take the Wolves with 88 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,599 Speaker 5: the whole thing at plus two sixty because you're not 89 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:27,880 Speaker 5: going to get those kind of odds anytime after today, 90 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 5: So if you're going to bet it, that's the move 91 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 5: to go. However, in terms of just best odds and possibilities, 92 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 5: whoever wins the West is your best situation because you're 93 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 5: not getting any money back on the Celtics. You're getting 94 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 5: minus money back, so there's no point of betting. 95 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: Then minus one fifty. I'm not I'm not an expert gambler, 96 00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: but minus one fifty means that if you bet on 97 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 4: the Celtics and they win, you have to pay someone 98 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: from Boston one hundred and fifty dollars and they curse. 99 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 3: That is that correct? 100 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 5: They are what set you anyway? Yeah? No, it's one 101 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 5: hundred and fifty dollars. 102 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: To win one hundred Yeah, Yeah, all. 103 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 5: Right, that's so there's no value there. You know they're 104 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: the favorite, and you know we'll see we see how 105 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 5: they've been playing the playoffs. It's just no value there. 106 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 5: It doesn't make sense. So with that being said, you're 107 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 5: better off one of the teams from the West with 108 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 5: everyone you rock with. You go with it and hope 109 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 5: for the best. That'd be your best bet. 110 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: What's like, what's like an interesting prop bet I could 111 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: take right now? 112 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,359 Speaker 5: So, for instance, there are certain props on how the 113 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 5: series will end. So for instance, if you have Minnesota, 114 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:43,679 Speaker 5: Minnesota winning a six game is a prop probably around 115 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:48,359 Speaker 5: like plus four hundred plus five hundred, and that you know, 116 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 5: those are where you can get kind of you know, 117 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:54,560 Speaker 5: intriguing with the serious prices in terms of guessing the 118 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,040 Speaker 5: amount of games that series is going to go. That's 119 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 5: probably the best bet around this time of the. 120 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 4: Year, right I For some reason, I'm probably wrong. I 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 4: think I think it's because I just lost money against Dallas. 122 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 4: So I have like the I don't know if there's 123 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 4: a gambling term for that, but like the PTSD of 124 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:19,719 Speaker 4: being soundly whooped by the Dallas Mavericks. But I like 125 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 4: them more than their odds would indicate it. Like I 126 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 4: feel like the fact that they have Luke and Kyrie 127 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 4: out there, even though they haven't been super consistent, they're 128 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 4: still so dangerous like that. On top of like having 129 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 4: some size. It's not as much size as Minnesota, but 130 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 4: I could see Dallas winning this series. 131 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 3: Personally. 132 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,279 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, No, they could definitely win it. I don't 133 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: think that's an issue. It's just more of the probability part. 134 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 5: I think they're alive that. I think if you took 135 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 5: me to the whole thing, it's a live that. It 136 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 5: makes sense because in a lot of series they might 137 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 5: have the best player on the court and a minimum 138 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 5: they have the best two out of three. Yeah, I 139 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 5: think you're always got a shot with those matters are 140 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 5: in yours. However, what that being said is this, they 141 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 5: have a lot of guys who've never been to this 142 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 5: point of the season. They're playing big mints, instributing big minutes. 143 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: Gafferd PJ. Washington have never been as far and that's 144 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 5: always turning to be. They're playing huge minutes. That's always 145 00:07:18,440 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 5: an issue. The same with Darrek Jones Jr. As as 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 5: he's been. I just don't know. Halloween is going to 147 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 5: go going forward, but they've all been great thus far 148 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: up to this point. 149 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, are there any see this is a 150 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: prop that I would have taken, is any active Canadian players, 151 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: they would lose their series. 152 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: And that's what that's what I called. 153 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 2: After the Drake Kendrick Beef, I was like Jamal Murray, 154 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Shay, I'm sorry. And I was like Matheren 155 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: didn't count because he didn't play, and then uh didn't 156 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 2: I think? Jabari brought up Dwight Powell and I was like, 157 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 2: well he barely played, so that that doesn't count either. 158 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 5: But yeah, Alexander Walker on Minnesota dah. 159 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's that's all. 160 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: We're talking stars. We're talking the stars. Yeah yeah, okay, right. 161 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: Exactly, you know what I mean, like, you know the 162 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: ones that are that are getting the headlines, the headlines 163 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: for sure. 164 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, but I mean, yeah, the end of that, 165 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 2: my gosh, I mean like the Wolves Nuggets Game seven, 166 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: just to touch on that briefly, was ah, so. 167 00:08:22,960 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: You know I knew it all along, you know, that's. 168 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeah, never in doubt as far as I was concerned. No, 169 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 4: I still don't believe that Minnesota won that game. I 170 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 4: watched the second half twice and I still don't believe it. 171 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 4: It's uh yeah, they just defensively shut them down in 172 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 4: a way that we haven't seen. You know, we saw 173 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 4: it earlier in this series, but that's I don't know, 174 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 4: it's still like that. I think that's part of the 175 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 4: thing that's give me a little bit of pause about 176 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 4: picking them against Dallas is just that even like that 177 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 4: win wasn't that convincing. And I think it's just because 178 00:08:53,840 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 4: they were going against a much better team than anybody 179 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 4: else was in the Nuggets. 180 00:08:57,920 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: So I think they'll probably win. 181 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 4: I just said something about Dallas is making me making 182 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 4: me pump my brakes a little bit. 183 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, interesting, Yeah, I mean, what what was that? 184 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 2: What was that night like for everybody out there who 185 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: was you know, taking action on that Game seven? 186 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: But did it shot? 187 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 5: Have the Nuggets where there's money line minus four and 188 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 5: a half, you know a lot of people have over 189 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,640 Speaker 5: as well because you figure, hey, you know, both teams score, 190 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 5: can score, et cetera, et cetera. Here's here's a secret 191 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 5: for Game sevens. In most cases, especially when both teams 192 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 5: play defense, like most times, games go under just because 193 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 5: it's you know, strong defense, longer possessions. You don't have 194 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: that many easy baskets. So most of the times the 195 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 5: games go under. Unfortunately, the previous game that was on 196 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 5: that day did not because you know, team shot like seventy. 197 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 5: But in most cases the game sevens go under. So 198 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,840 Speaker 5: I wasn't necessarily a surprise that the tempo or the score. 199 00:10:00,440 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 5: It was more the why it might go and rest 200 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 5: sue best players up twenty points right, Like that was 201 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 5: the biggest thing for me. I didn't get why, like, hey, 202 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 5: you might want to give the guys a breather while 203 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 5: you guys are up fifteen to twenty points, and they 204 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 5: never did that, and in a kind of fading way 205 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:16,679 Speaker 5: at the end. 206 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it was wild. 207 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 2: They just kind of see just the evolution that I came, 208 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 2: like from that twenty point lead and then watching the 209 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: Wolves just kind of like claw their way back, and 210 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: then then at a certain point it just felt like 211 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: the Nuggets just were not They just couldn't believe what 212 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: was happening, and it felt like mentally they just kind 213 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 2: of were sort of like, oh man, we're trying to 214 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 2: do whatever we can to stay in this thing, but 215 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: it just was not enough. 216 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: And again, like I said, I think that's what happens. 217 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,599 Speaker 1: They got too comfortable beating the Lakers. 218 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 2: So in a way, this is a victory for the Lakers, 219 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 2: you know, for everybody to celebrate, because if they didn't 220 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 2: beat us so badly that they wouldn't they wouldn't be. 221 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: You guys figured out some things that the rest of 222 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 4: the league saw, and this is really a victory for 223 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 4: the Lakers above anybody else, above Minnesota. 224 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 1: Even I would say too. 225 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: You know, we gave them the blueprint that they actually 226 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 2: executed on it. 227 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:06,959 Speaker 3: So you're well with. 228 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 4: But let's take a quick break and we'll come back 229 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 4: and keep talking Western Conference. 230 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: And we're back. 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: We're back. 232 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,800 Speaker 4: So the Dallas went over. Okay, See, as painful as 233 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: it was, I feel like kind of both series in 234 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: the West felt like a real like testament to the 235 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 4: idea that like size is king right now because everybody, 236 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 4: at least everybody who's at this stage in the playoffs 237 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: has enough shooters. Like it used to be a novelty 238 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:50,319 Speaker 4: to have like really good shooting, and now basically everybody 239 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 4: has shooting, and so then it comes down to like 240 00:11:54,920 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 4: who who has enough size inside and with Okay, see 241 00:12:00,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: it was just like they just couldn't get a rebound 242 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: like they and they couldn't stop people at the rim. 243 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 4: They were just like getting bodied on the inside, which 244 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 4: is wild, especially when like in the East, like Pascal Siakam, 245 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: like somebody who they could have picked up. I feel 246 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 4: like was playing such an important role that just just 247 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 4: felt like you just couldn't need you needed size in 248 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 4: both cases. 249 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: To do it. 250 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, that's the question I think to looking 251 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 2: at this series with the with the wolves and the 252 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: maps is like, what how are they matching up with 253 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 2: you know, Gobert, Cat and Red. I guess like sort 254 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 2: of like the easy way or the like sort of 255 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 2: oversimplified ways, Like I don't know how that's all going 256 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 2: to work out, at least defensively. And I'm now thinking, 257 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 2: I'm like, does Luca really, Like, I mean, how much 258 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 2: does work is Luca going to have to do in 259 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,480 Speaker 2: this series too? Because he does not look, you know, 260 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: at his yea and this this is going to demand 261 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: him to play like at one hundred at least one 262 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 2: hundred and three percent. I feel like to really to 263 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: give us something, But I don't know. That's just kind 264 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,400 Speaker 2: of my my first impression, jamis, so what do you 265 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 2: what's what are your thoughts looking at this matchup. 266 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 5: It's a very interesting matchup because you have two teams 267 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: that are kind of in a similar voat. You have 268 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 5: two kind of younger teams, but they are They have 269 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 5: a couple of veterans that you know that have been 270 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 5: there before and made long runs in the playoffs. That 271 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 5: being said, Minnesota has the better athletes and they have 272 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,319 Speaker 5: a better size. So for me, I think the matchup 273 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 5: over a series longer it goes. I think if every Minnesota, 274 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 5: because their size, is gonna wear down Dallas, right, they 275 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 5: have defenders to throw out Luca. They have guys that 276 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,680 Speaker 5: can really defend. Jay McDaniels is a really good defender. 277 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 5: He might be the best io defender in the league 278 00:13:50,160 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 5: right now, which is a huge statement to say, but 279 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,320 Speaker 5: he might be. But they have got off the bench 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 5: they can throw on Luca as well. They're gonna take 281 00:13:56,520 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 5: their chance to look Kyrie with Conley and and and 282 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 5: whatnot mixing things That was so set interesting to see 283 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 5: how that goes. But I'm looking forward to seeing the 284 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: rebounding because in the previous series, the MAVs were destroying. Okay, 285 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,720 Speaker 5: see on the boards us every time they were getting 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 5: off the rebound, they're getting a big tip out. They're 287 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 5: always getting the keyboards. I don't think they're gonna out 288 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 5: rebound Minnesota. I just don't see that. So that's gonna 289 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 5: be very especially with nas Reads in the game because 290 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 5: he's a great off of the rebounder, and I just 291 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 5: don't know how it's gonna work for Dallas. With that 292 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 5: being said, Luke is very special and he finds a way, 293 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: he finds a way to get quality shots. If he's 294 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 5: going he's gonna hit you know, the twenty someone foot 295 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 5: step back. So it's gonna be very inting to see 296 00:14:40,520 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: what happens there. But if if Minnesota is able to 297 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 5: control Kyrie and Luke and they're not going crazy at first, 298 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 5: Minnesota great league. 299 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 4: Yeah that makes sense. I no longer have a feeling 300 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:56,119 Speaker 4: about Dallas, but I'm over that now. You've convinced me otherwise. 301 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: So just like back to Game seven, I mean, I 302 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 4: think part of the thing that still seems so strange 303 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 4: is that Murray was finally like putting it together, had 304 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 4: thirty five points. 305 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 3: Jokic had thirty four. 306 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 4: Nineteen seven assists and is just they just like the 307 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 4: shot stopped going in at a certain point and Minnesota's 308 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 4: defense really picked it up. But it was like, yeah, 309 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 4: it was almost like an optical illusion. But like I mean, 310 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 4: you had like Michael Porter Junior's shot not falling and 311 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 4: then just Minnesota hitting some big shots. Cat coming through 312 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 4: in a way that I still have a hard time 313 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: like believe it, like being like, yeah, I'm comfortable with 314 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 4: him being like the number one offensive option sometimes down 315 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 4: the stretch of these games, but it feels like he's 316 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 4: totally comfortable with that doubt and he's still you know, 317 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 4: making shots I didn't know he was capable of making, 318 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 4: both in terms of like how big they were and 319 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 4: how difficult they are, so pretty pretty impressive, and then 320 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 4: ant just being a lot of fun. The waving to 321 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,680 Speaker 4: the crowd moment was a lot of fun. Oh yeah, 322 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 4: with Yok being like why why why and Aunt being 323 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: confused point. 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 2: At the scoreboard, He's like because of that, man, yeah, 325 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 2: it's like the game's about to be over and you're cooked. 326 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: That's why. Yeah. 327 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 2: I mean at the beginning though, too, I felt like 328 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: that was the biggest impression that like I got, was 329 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:30,520 Speaker 2: like oh, Kat is playing at a completely different level 330 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 2: in this series. So yeah, is your concern that that 331 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 2: was just for this series and he may. 332 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 4: Have a bit of a regression or yeah, and just 333 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 4: like past playoff performances where he's like kind of disappeared 334 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: or like gotten into early foul trouble, I mean the 335 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 4: fact that he still got into early foul trouble in 336 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 4: this game and still was able to you know, be 337 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 4: uh was he their leading score? But I mean he 338 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 4: was certainly like their number one offensive option, most consistent 339 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 4: option in the game. Yeah, So I don't know, hitting 340 00:17:03,720 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 4: Chuck with a classic response to finding out that Chuck 341 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 4: hadn't been to Minnesota in twenty years where he told 342 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,199 Speaker 4: him to bring his ass to Minnesota. 343 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 2: And yeah, and then they also turn it into the 344 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: part of the Minnesota tourism website too. 345 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: Oh yes, nice to see them. 346 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:25,479 Speaker 4: A www dot bring Yeah dot com. Now bring Cia 347 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 4: Oh yes, does it seem like bring yas bring. 348 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:33,719 Speaker 1: Gas dot com? Yeah? Yeah, no, no, we shall see. Uh, 349 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:34,760 Speaker 1: maybe he'll go. 350 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,200 Speaker 2: Because the website even had if you looked on the website, 351 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 2: they even put little things that were like little messages 352 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 2: to Charles Barkley, like on some of the pictures. 353 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,439 Speaker 1: They're like, Sir Charles could even enjoy James Beard Award 354 00:17:45,480 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 1: winning cuisine, so they put a lot into that. 355 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. 356 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: And I think also the MAVs without. 357 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: Without Maxie, I think is also just going to make 358 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 2: things very, very difficult. 359 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: But we'll see, we'll see. 360 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: I mean, look, I I would love to see Luca 361 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 2: give a masterclass. And I know, like probably as we're 362 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 2: recording this, game one will have already happened. I believe, 363 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: so well, the MAVs lose this one like they have 364 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,080 Speaker 2: as tradition. 365 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 3: Tells us to. They like to watch you game one. 366 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I mean, like whatever's meant 367 00:18:17,320 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 2: to happen is going to happen. But does that affect 368 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 2: the odds at all? 369 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,879 Speaker 5: Jameson Uh So game ones are interesting like game ones 370 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,919 Speaker 5: and depending on the odds in general, so the series 371 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 5: odds will here's the strategy. So let's say you like Indiana, right, 372 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,840 Speaker 5: if they lose game one, their series of odds are 373 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 5: gonna plumb it because obviously the underdog they lost one 374 00:18:37,880 --> 00:18:41,159 Speaker 5: game et cetera, et cetera. Uh, if you like, and 375 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,640 Speaker 5: then you wait until game one ends. More life people 376 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 5: hosting the wins. Did you bet a need to win 377 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: the series because the odds be tremendously in your favor. 378 00:18:49,800 --> 00:18:52,439 Speaker 5: So if they do pull it off, you get a 379 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:55,919 Speaker 5: nice large sum of funds that they're called the series. 380 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: So that's a strategy for that. When it comes to 381 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 5: each game, the spread normally to spread every now they're 382 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 5: up or down based off of an injury or something 383 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,880 Speaker 5: like that. But the spread and the toes are what they. 384 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: Are, right right, Yeah, I mean yeah, well we will 385 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,119 Speaker 2: see what happens. I mean if if they get to 386 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: game seven, Like what what does that effect? I mean, like, 387 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 2: you know Kyrie being you know it was like fourteen 388 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: and oh or something in those closeout games. 389 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 1: Does that Yeah? 390 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, and like I feel like 391 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,879 Speaker 2: that's the kind of thing like someone like I would 392 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: hold on to as contorted logic to be like and 393 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,440 Speaker 2: you know he's fourteen and no, so oh I lost 394 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 2: so much money? 395 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, we shall see. Moved to the East. 396 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean yeah, the Pacers beat the Knicks, uh 397 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,199 Speaker 2: in stunning fashion. 398 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: I would say, uh in that game seven. 399 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 4: And calories for the Knicks not at calories. That was 400 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:55,199 Speaker 4: my theory on the Lakers. It just felt like they 401 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: were running out of gas at the end of these games, 402 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 4: and the Knicks weren't running out of gas at the 403 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 4: end of the games, but they ran out of gas 404 00:20:01,359 --> 00:20:01,840 Speaker 4: at the end. 405 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 3: Of the series. It felt like, yeah. 406 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 2: And biased basically, it's just yeah, it was that was 407 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 2: that was tough at the end. I was really hoping 408 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,199 Speaker 2: for for the Knicks. But the Pacers are now going 409 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:15,880 Speaker 2: to be matching up with the Celtics. What Celtics won 410 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 2: three of those five games in the regular season and 411 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,960 Speaker 2: n season tournament for zingis still not sure. They say 412 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 2: at least the first two games. But I mean, it 413 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 2: was like, what was he predicted before? Like, are we 414 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 2: just doing this thing where we keep kicking the can 415 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:31,600 Speaker 2: down the road and be like, yeah, at least the 416 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 2: next couple of games, at least the next couple. 417 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: He's yeah, he's out, he's out. He's out. 418 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 2: We don't, you know, because maybe they don't want it 419 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 2: to show their hand too much, but yeah, I'm curious 420 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 2: what they're. 421 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 4: Just keeping it quiet. It feels yeah, we won't know 422 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 4: until we know. Could be that he pops out Game one, 423 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: could be that he's out for the rest of the season. 424 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, based on his reaction when he 425 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 2: was hurt that like the bearing the jersey, your head. 426 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: In the jersey is always the universal sign of. 427 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: But but yeah, and I guess I mean like looking 428 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:04,719 Speaker 2: at this, I don't know, I feel like we were 429 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: saying at the top, what are the chances of the 430 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 2: Pacers getting out of this? I see like Celtics fans 431 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 2: online and they're basically like, you know, the thing is 432 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 2: we needed any like we were owed an easy path 433 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: to the finals this year, you know, so like I'm 434 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,479 Speaker 2: not going to let anybody take that we can't enjoy this. 435 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: I was like, wow, Wow, no. 436 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 4: Way, are you inviting bad karma? Yeah. Bill Simmons on 437 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 4: his podcast was like, I'm not saying the Pacers are bad, 438 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 4: but let's just like list the five worst teams to 439 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 4: ever make the Eastern Conference finals. I was like, and 440 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 4: he was like, I don't think the Pacers are as 441 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 4: bad as those teams, but pretty bad. Yeah, Like, I mean, 442 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 4: if if it wasn't the Celtics playing against them, he 443 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 4: would have said that. But he's he believes them reverse 444 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 4: jinxes and all that stuff. 445 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, Jamison, any any hope, I mean betting or not? 446 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: This is just it is. It has been for to 447 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: hold a mistake. 448 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 5: I think the Pacers are three and two Celtics this 449 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,320 Speaker 5: year with the n CEAS Tournament included. Whatever you have 450 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,280 Speaker 5: offense like the Pacers h and also the somethings don't 451 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 5: score easy baskets like they shoot a lot of jumpers 452 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 5: as a team, a lot correct And when you think 453 00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 5: about how they play in the games that they lose, 454 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 5: they're all similar. They doss a lot of jumpers, a 455 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 5: lot of threes, and they fell to defend the rim 456 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 5: and that with them, Yeah, always it like it's always 457 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: game two, but this yeraries. I think it might go. 458 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: I think they might have a couple of losses in 459 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 5: the series. Okay, they're Indians, gonna win one at home 460 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,640 Speaker 5: in the crowd, the kind of offense they have, They're 461 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 5: gonna win one at home at least. I do think 462 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,080 Speaker 5: he is gonna still win in Boston, whether it's Game 463 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: one or two, not sure, but then they're gonna still 464 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 5: won there just because of the way they play. It's 465 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:50,479 Speaker 5: hard to compare for a team that shoots like this 466 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,600 Speaker 5: and plays this contempo, and Boston is a very thin team. 467 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 5: In turn of rotation, they don't have a lot of 468 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,880 Speaker 5: guys they can trust. Colak the Knicks did the last series, 469 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 5: they eventually wore down. Now it's just sometimes way more talent, 470 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 5: so that will eventually prevail. But I think this years 471 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 5: goes on a little bit longer than people expect. 472 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of feel that way too. 473 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 4: And the other thing that I think the Pacers I've 474 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 4: gone for them is I think Carlisle is a pretty 475 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 4: good coach and like he's one of the only people 476 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 4: that I've seen like swing a series, you know, like 477 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 4: I've seen him win serieses before, which is there's like 478 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: a handful of people you can say that about as coaches, but. 479 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 3: He's like one of those dudes. 480 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 4: And the celic like, I don't know, Joe Mazola like 481 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 4: obviously is doing a great job with the Celtics. They're 482 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 4: one of the like statistically, one of the best teams 483 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 4: of all time, but like the second they lose a game, 484 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 4: their fans are like, Mossola sucks. Yah, you know, like 485 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 4: they every time after those game two is They're like, 486 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 4: I'm just sitting here watching Spolstra out coach Mozola and 487 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:00,960 Speaker 4: it makes me sick. They like it feels like it's 488 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 4: a concern for Celtics fans, uh for sure. 489 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, they're always out matched and that's the match 490 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 5: that they're not gonna win versus any coach likes a 491 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 5: young coach, so it really don't fault to his own. Yeah, well, 492 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 5: the guys that are left, he's he's out in that regard. 493 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 5: The best bet would be just having the guys as 494 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,919 Speaker 5: play as good as they can. But the chess matches 495 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,160 Speaker 5: he's always gonna lose at this. 496 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: Point, right Yeah, yeah, so I mean, yeah, I'm hopefully 497 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: Tyrese Haliburton can also find a bit of form too here, 498 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 2: because yeah, that is like a back injury, right that 499 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 2: he's dealing with. 500 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Just did not Uh, I'm just I'm hoping. I would love. 501 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 5: I would be better than his wardrobe. 502 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,440 Speaker 1: Yeah for real, I just need Yeah, I would love. 503 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: Look, I don't want to have a foregone conclusion about 504 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,679 Speaker 2: this year is I would love nothing more for this 505 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 2: to go down to the wire and hey, even Indiana 506 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: to win, you know, because I'm not. 507 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: Biased at all, and that's just that's just what I'm thinking. 508 00:24:57,160 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 4: I am incredibly biased. I have said from the beginning 509 00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 4: of this season that I viewed this season as the 510 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: Celtics versus the field, and I'm rooting for the field. 511 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 4: There is part of me and maybe this is also 512 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 4: tying into like my Minnesota like you know, bafflement over 513 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 4: is like I was like, I've really felt like the 514 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 4: Nuggets had the best chance of beating the Celtics and 515 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 4: we just lost them. I was rooting for Minnesota, Like 516 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 4: I found myself rooting for Minnesota, and then when the 517 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 4: game was over, I was like, oh, no, what have 518 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 4: we done. We love your chan that was going to 519 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 4: beat the Celtics. But I don't know, like Minnesota versus 520 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 4: the Celtics would be a good would be a good matchup, 521 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 4: and I think the Pacers heading into the last two games, 522 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 4: I was like, the Knicks are the best chance, Like 523 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,400 Speaker 4: they're gonna give the Celtics the toughest series. And by 524 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 4: the end of the game seven, I was like, I'm 525 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:50,199 Speaker 4: really glad this Pacers team won. They can score in 526 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 4: a lot of weird ways, and you know, in a 527 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 4: seven game series with a coach as good as Carlisle, 528 00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 4: maybe you can figure some things out defensively, you know. 529 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, Jameson, how do you how do you view 530 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,320 Speaker 1: this one. 531 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess more in terms of like the 532 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: inevitability of the Celtics going all the way, but just 533 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 2: sort of in this round. 534 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:12,440 Speaker 1: In the next, how do you see it shaken out? 535 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 5: So I think the Celtics get through the series in 536 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 5: six games or less. I think any it gets a 537 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 5: game or two. But I just really about it. It's 538 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 5: hard when you defend that poorly. If you can't really 539 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 5: act in the win three games defending like that, it 540 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 5: just doesn't work. I'd be extremely surprised. With that being said, 541 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 5: Boston has been underwhelming in these playoffs, Like for a 542 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 5: team with that record and the stats that they have, 543 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 5: you really haven't been that impressed by them. Like you 544 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 5: look at them like, Okay, they're cool, like they're you know, 545 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 5: they're doing what they should do. But it's not like, 546 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 5: oh wow, this is a sixty one team that's dominating. 547 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: You don't get that field right, not from watching them. 548 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 5: So there's been a lot of inconsistencies from them, you know, 549 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 5: at best, and that's where it's like, ah, don't quite know. However, 550 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 5: I will say this Minnesota is well suited to play anyone. 551 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 5: Think they give everyone matchup problems and if I had 552 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 5: to pick today, they would be the favorite one the 553 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 5: whole thing, because no one has the size, and no 554 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: one has the defense that they have. The way they 555 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 5: defend at both ends and on the rim and on 556 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 5: the perimeter, that's thing that no one else really has 557 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 5: to combat with, and that, to me is gonna be 558 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 5: difference between them and everybody else. 559 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 4: So my fear, my counter to that would be that 560 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:35,399 Speaker 4: Minnesota versus the Celtics, like of all the teams that 561 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 4: are left, Minnesota feels like they have the shakiest perimeter shooting, 562 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 4: like they can go cold from outside, and the Celtics 563 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 4: have great perimeter defense, right, So like I could see 564 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 4: that being a problem that comes back and by them 565 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 4: if it ends up being that series. 566 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 5: So you're right, But the thing is they offer the 567 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 5: rebounds well, so. 568 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they get extra looks. 569 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly exactly. That's where That's what happened. The fourth 570 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 5: quarter was Denver, but they didn't shoot that great like, 571 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 5: it was just that whenever they shot it and they missed, 572 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,000 Speaker 5: they got it right back and that was issue. That's 573 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 5: why it's warded for Down and Denver have been all 574 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 5: their starters of the whole game. Basically, and you saw 575 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: they just weren't able to get those loose balls. Yeah. 576 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,400 Speaker 4: Really, it's like a just a mind like a perspective 577 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 4: shift of being like, oh yeah, just rebounding is so 578 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:36,080 Speaker 4: like rebounding determined the seventy six ers Nick series because 579 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 4: the Sixers were just too slow to get to the 580 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 4: ball a lot of the time. Rebounding determined so many 581 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 4: of these series. It feels like it's an ascendant skill 582 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 4: right now, Like it's obviously always been important, but now 583 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,480 Speaker 4: I feel like, for the first time, we're seeing it 584 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 4: like swing series in a way that's pretty like definitive 585 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 4: and noticeable. 586 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 5: Right. Uh. 587 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, As producer Jabari put in our chat here, as 588 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:02,160 Speaker 2: the Great pat Riley said no rebounds, no rings. 589 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,120 Speaker 4: And he stole that from me. Yeah, he didsing my style. 590 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 1: And you saw that from Adrian Brody and. 591 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 4: I did steal it from Adrian Brody. 592 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 2: But also, like Jameson, you were saying you weren't as 593 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: impressed me because they were the the Celtics were winning 594 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 2: their games on average by like about nineteen points. Does 595 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: that is that I'm just guessing you're looking at more 596 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: than just what the score was at the end. 597 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: To say, like you weren't completely impressed by what they 598 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: were doing. 599 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 5: So when Don Mitchell went out in that last series, yeah, 600 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 5: I was expecting the series basically over hey there, you know, 601 00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: and it wasn't. The games were way too close for you. 602 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 5: Look at the cows. They really didn't have a whole 603 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 5: lot there, you know. I mean Mobile played well, Garland did, 604 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 5: and a couple of other guys in decent moments, but there 605 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 5: was really nothing there. But you know, having a two 606 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 5: game or in some parts in the one game, and 607 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: it's like, wait a minute, it's the team that everyone's 608 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 5: tongue to worry about, and they're not blowing the steam 609 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 5: off from the gig go. It was kind of odd. 610 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 5: And even in the first season, like Miami didn't have 611 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,480 Speaker 5: a lot of shot right, Like they didn't have you know, Jimmy, 612 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: they are really long guys, and they stole a game. 613 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 5: Now granted they had like twenties three, so whatever. But 614 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 5: it's just when you've built dominant teams, you want to 615 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 5: see them put away the inferior talent as quickly as 616 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 5: possible right away. 617 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, got you. 618 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, because they there's so much variance going both ways. 619 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 4: I mean, they shoot a lot of threes and a 620 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: lot of them go in. But I think that's where 621 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 4: one of the arguments I've heard against the Celtics being 622 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: this historically great team is. You know, we've talked about 623 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 4: the Tatum one. That's like in the playoffs, your best 624 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 4: player matters. You need somebody who's like the best player 625 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 4: on the court. Tatum can be the best player on 626 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 4: the court, but he's not as good as some of 627 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: these historically great teams best player, right, which like the 628 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 4: other historically great teams is like Jordan. But the other 629 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 4: one is just like they're winning by a lot because 630 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 4: they shoot so many threes, and that like puts them 631 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 4: up by a ton of points. And they're still like 632 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 4: gunning threes late into games, so that like put them 633 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 4: put them up by a lot. But the variance means 634 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:16,959 Speaker 4: that it can go the opposite direction. 635 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't have that like, yeah, cutthroat domination that 636 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: you're looking for. 637 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: I get that, I mean, but it does They're still 638 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: pretty good. 639 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know. 640 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 2: I mean, look again, I'm trying to tell myself everything 641 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 2: I can so I avoid having to see a Celtics 642 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: jersey with that little number eighteen on the back of it. 643 00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: Do not want to see that at all. 644 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,480 Speaker 4: But if the Wolves win, that's basically number eighteen for 645 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 4: you guys, right. 646 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: If the Wolves win, obviously that's yeah, yeah. 647 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 4: Well basically the Lakers want you know, first of all, 648 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 4: you were originally from Minneapolis. 649 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 3: You guys showed them how to beat Is this logic? 650 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: But yes, thank you, thank you, yes, yes, help me cope, 651 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: help me COPD please please? 652 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: All right, shall we go to the most explosive part 653 00:31:59,600 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: of the pod? 654 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 5: Guys? 655 00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, oh you gotta stop and get under 656 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 4: my desk with my hands over my head. 657 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, yeah. 658 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 3: Labored, but I think we got there. 659 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,960 Speaker 2: It's like also a reference to the Cold War. But hey, yeah, 660 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 2: we'll take that. We'll take kids. 661 00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 3: You get this right? 662 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: Wait, do we need to do another break? 663 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 664 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's right, we do need to do at breaks. 665 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 3: I thought that was what we call a tease in 666 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 3: the business. 667 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 1: No, that's what we call Uh. 668 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 2: I'm kind of off my game in the business right now, 669 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 2: but guess what, I'm right back, and we will be 670 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: back with the fourth quarter RAPI fire round of questioning 671 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: right after this, and we are back jameson my good man, 672 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 2: you've wandered into the rapid fire round of questions. 673 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: We're just you. You've done this before. We're hitting me 674 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: with some questions. 675 00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: Don't expand on your answers, give us quick responses, right 676 00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: back to us. 677 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:00,720 Speaker 1: And if if you take too long, we. 678 00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 2: Will be very rude, and we are very impatient, and 679 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 2: we will be very immature. But I know you can 680 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 2: handle it because you're in Las Vegas dealing with people 681 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 2: maybe as irrational as me. 682 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: So I think you're prepared. Are you ready though? 683 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 5: Yes? 684 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 1: Okay, Jamison's ready? 685 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: Right start o'clock. 686 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,400 Speaker 1: Okay, do you want to eject? Should I go first? 687 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: Or do you want to go first? 688 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 4: Uh? 689 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:27,440 Speaker 1: You can? You can go man, It's cool, all right, Jamison. 690 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: You can go back in time to personally witness any 691 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 2: of the following iconic moments. The first one, Magic's Baby 692 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 2: Skyhook in the garden in nineteen eighty seven. And I 693 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 2: will play the clips just to remind you of how 694 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 2: beautiful these moments were. Cooper takes the ball out of 695 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: bounds baseline, mariemn Worthy is the left. 696 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: Worthy comes to the right, the left goes madd You's 697 00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: got to he didn't shot a five seconds left Maddie 698 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: gotta metal. Just what I thought. 699 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 5: I Well, go second, the Lakers take the lead on 700 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 5: Magic Johnson's running skyhook. 701 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 2: Hey Jack, that was you, pat Riley, there is. 702 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: Man chick on miss chick. Okay, the opportunity number two, 703 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: by the way, number two. 704 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 4: My six year old just saw the year nineteen eighty 705 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 4: something and he was like one thousand, nine hundred eighty. 706 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, you're born man. 707 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah that there were numbers from then. Yeah, there 708 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 2: were numbers from then. All right, Jamison Moment two, run 709 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 2: our test that three pointer in Game seven against the 710 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 2: Celtics straight into my veins. 711 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:53,839 Speaker 1: Why I'm looking more test? Shout out to my therapist 712 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: on that one. 713 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: And then finally, Kobe Bryant clutch Finals performance. 714 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: After Shack goes out Game four in the two thousand finals, 715 00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 1: try to go get rose. 716 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 3: Now Indiana has five fouls. 717 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 4: The Patriots do not want to fail here, put Kobe 718 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 4: on the line. 719 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,799 Speaker 1: Kobe fires the jumper and gives l A the lead. 720 00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,640 Speaker 2: Okay, So then here it is, Jamison, of those three 721 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:18,400 Speaker 2: moments in history, which one are you showing up to 722 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 2: so you can witness personally with your eyes? 723 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: Well, I saw the last two like a lot, well 724 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 5: you know on TV. Yeah, yeah, that the first one 725 00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 5: I was. I was really young, So I probably on 726 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 5: that one because I was way more intent because of 727 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 5: where it was located at the history at the time. Uh, 728 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 5: the players out on the court, So I'd probably go 729 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,280 Speaker 5: acted that one. The other two I remember very vividly. 730 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 5: I watched the game in four Uh. The third one, 731 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 5: I had a lot of money on the line to 732 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 5: that one, so I don't want to but yeah, yeah, 733 00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:53,200 Speaker 5: i'd probably go the first one. 734 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, magic Baby skyhooking the garden. Yeah, that you could. 735 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,960 Speaker 4: Give yourself a sports almana can be come like like 736 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 4: in the country. Yeah all right, Uh, face of the 737 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: NBA for the next five years? 738 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: Could it be me? I don't play basketball, but I. 739 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 4: Don't know off the table now we have this podcast, 740 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 4: No Face of the NBA for the next five years 741 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 4: or faces. 742 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 5: One? Because he has a personality with the game. Well 743 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 5: there's guys that are just as talented, but the personality 744 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 5: that goes with the game. 745 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 3: In this way, it's can we come up with a 746 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 3: better nickname for him? 747 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 4: I feel like somebody was pointing out on Twitter and 748 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 4: this has been a frequent thing. Like people were like, 749 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,919 Speaker 4: what happened to NBA nicknames? On Reddit three years ago? 750 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 4: Someone was like Kemp was rain Man, Peyton Glove, Dominique, 751 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:51,480 Speaker 4: the Human Highlight Film, Barkley, the Round Mound of Rebound, 752 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: Michael Jordan Air Jordan, Like these are great poetic nicknames, 753 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 4: and now it's like Anthony Edwards. Well, the first three 754 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 4: letters of his name is ant Okay, okay, we'll call 755 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 4: it him ant man. 756 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:10,279 Speaker 2: Like what about this Tony no Man? 757 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 3: That's just like a normal nickname? 758 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,280 Speaker 1: All right, all right, all right, all right, what about anton? 759 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 5: No? 760 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,959 Speaker 3: So what about a e. 761 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,800 Speaker 5: The reason why we don't have great nicknames anymore is 762 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 5: because we know these guys from when they're like fifteen 763 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 5: years old, so there's no mystery anymore. We just called 764 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,359 Speaker 5: them by their name or call them whatever nickname they 765 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 5: already have. So we've known them, we've seen them do aau, 766 00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 5: seem to do high school. There's no more intrigue anymore. 767 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 5: Back in the day when Sean Kent was dunk on everybody, 768 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 5: that was the first time you saw it. When we 769 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,719 Speaker 5: got the NBA, we see all these high these guys 770 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 5: who are fourteen fifteen years old, right, So there's no 771 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:44,960 Speaker 5: more mystery entrigue to them, so it just is what 772 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:45,319 Speaker 5: it is. 773 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:47,719 Speaker 2: But do you do you personally miss like a good 774 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 2: nickname or you're just like it's fine, let's just call 775 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 2: him aunt, let's call him ae whatever. 776 00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I do miss a good nickname. However, the issue 777 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 5: is this, the people will pray nicknames that shouldn't be 778 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,840 Speaker 5: doing it. We need people who are cool and have 779 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,800 Speaker 5: doing it. People trying to be cool and go viral 780 00:38:03,160 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: like laying with that. And I think that's a big 781 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 5: issue that we have on social media when it comes. 782 00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 4: To basketball whatnot, Like some of them, like Barkley being 783 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 4: the round mound of rebound, like that is too sweaty 784 00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 4: to like for that to work today. Like granted it's 785 00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 4: a lot of fun, but it only was possible because 786 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 4: there were like the beat reporter for the Sixers was 787 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 4: like I came up with this and I'm going to 788 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 4: keep repeating it until everybody else does, you know, Like 789 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,960 Speaker 4: there was like that old media model, whereas now like 790 00:38:39,320 --> 00:38:41,160 Speaker 4: I don't think you can get the round mound of 791 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,320 Speaker 4: rebound started. 792 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, you can't. 793 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 2: You can't do like nicknames that sound like an intro 794 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: bar and like a Sugarhill Gang rap song. 795 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,560 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, it's rebound. 796 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,799 Speaker 4: It's like no I've ever gone over your friend's as 797 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:58,719 Speaker 4: eat and the food just ain't no good. 798 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 5: All yes, wow. 799 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, we need something. That's what we need. 800 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:06,200 Speaker 2: We gotta we gotta go to the next We need, 801 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 2: we need something. We need bars okay when it comes 802 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 2: to these nicknames. So yeah, the the challenge is out there, 803 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,360 Speaker 2: all right. So James, the next question, Barkley's Hall of 804 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 2: Fame career or former guest the Matt Boosti's Robert Ory's 805 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:20,400 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame. 806 00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,080 Speaker 5: Career Barkley seven rings is right, But I would take 807 00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 5: Barkley's career. He was a living team, made a lot 808 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,760 Speaker 5: of money. He's still making a lot of money. He's 809 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,840 Speaker 5: he's just he's just amount of famous you want to be. 810 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 5: People know you don't know too much about you, and 811 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 5: I think that's always cool. 812 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,680 Speaker 1: Uh. 813 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 5: But Barkley, Yeah, Barkley at one point time the top 814 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 5: of me play in the NBA and that was never 815 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 5: the case for Robert or you know, he had a 816 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 5: Hall of a career, did what he did. But I 817 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200 Speaker 5: would take Barkley's career ten times. 818 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, and we did, of course say Robert Ory is 819 00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 4: Hall of Famer. He's not Basketball Hall of Fame, but 820 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 4: he's in the much more important Uh, Miles and Jack 821 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 4: got Matt Boosti's Hall of so But. 822 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: He's gonna have a shot, won't he. 823 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,040 Speaker 3: Uh? 824 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,439 Speaker 4: I mean, Barkley definitely has a shot at the Miles 825 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 4: and Jackot mat Boosti's Hall of Fame needs to come on, 826 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 4: you know. 827 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 1: But I mean exactly. 828 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:14,680 Speaker 3: And a lot of people are asking, why is he 829 00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,880 Speaker 3: ducking us? Yeah, a lot of people are saying, I 830 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 3: don't know. 831 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:18,920 Speaker 1: I don't know. 832 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 3: I mean, I read Interesting to find out. 833 00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,600 Speaker 1: I read the book about his life. Seems pretty interesting. 834 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: Seems like an interesting guy. 835 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:24,879 Speaker 3: All right. 836 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,480 Speaker 4: Someone's planning to come to Vegas for Summer League and 837 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,239 Speaker 4: the second annual NBA Con this July. What restaurant do 838 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 4: they need to check out that folks don't know about? 839 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,440 Speaker 5: So it depends on what they like to eat, you know, 840 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:40,359 Speaker 5: I asked that's the first question, or like they ask 841 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 5: people like, Hey, what are you feeling? What are you 842 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,960 Speaker 5: in the mood for? However, if you're coming to Vegas, 843 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,680 Speaker 5: it's a little bit out of the way. But if 844 00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 5: you're gonna get barbecue, you gotta go to John Mules. 845 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,719 Speaker 5: It's about twenty five minutes away from the Strip and 846 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 5: where NBA con or something like that. But it's the 847 00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 5: best barbecue in the city. Best prices, best value, best taste. 848 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 5: You can't go wrong John Mules, road Killed brick, best 849 00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 5: barbecue the city. 850 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:06,280 Speaker 3: Is that where roadkill? 851 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 5: Like? 852 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 3: Is that for real? 853 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 5: Well? And so they have like a meat market, they 854 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 5: also have barbecues all of the sides and the meat 855 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 5: choices and you can't go wrong. It's really really good. 856 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,840 Speaker 1: What style of barbecue we're talking here. 857 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 5: It's a mixture of West Coast and Texas. 858 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, okay, yeah, they have everything though. 859 00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 5: They have white beef ribs, they have regular ribs, risk 860 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,799 Speaker 5: it burnt ends, the big beef ribs, chicken links, ball nine. 861 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,760 Speaker 5: I think Jack right, have to go all the sides. 862 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:36,800 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to go. We're gonna have to go 863 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: the NBA. You heard it. We're gonna have to go, 864 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: and we're going to I mean, last time. 865 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,239 Speaker 3: We went out, we're out of town. 866 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: We also got barbecue in. 867 00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:46,320 Speaker 2: Texas, so we must keep this tradition alive. John Mules, 868 00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,920 Speaker 2: We're coming for you, Jamison. Thank you so much for 869 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:53,399 Speaker 2: joining us on Miles and Jack Got mad Boosties. Where 870 00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,359 Speaker 2: do the people find you? Follow you, interact with your. 871 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,800 Speaker 5: Work on Twitter at the Jamison. I'll be on you 872 00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,560 Speaker 5: in Las Vegas here throughout the playoffs in the finals 873 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:05,879 Speaker 5: and then of course Summer League coming up with NBA 874 00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,759 Speaker 5: Con so you'll see me out there and yeah, I'll 875 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 5: be here throughout bowls. 876 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 3: Okay, amazing. 877 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 2: Well, you can follow us or at least follow the 878 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 2: hashtag Matt Boosti's BA sd I e s on Twitter 879 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,839 Speaker 2: that we can get show links and updates, and also 880 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 2: you'll get you can check out the links to the 881 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 2: Discord server where you can you know, join for some 882 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 2: mad Boosti's style discussions on Discord. 883 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,359 Speaker 1: You can also follow me on Twitter at Miles of Gray. 884 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,480 Speaker 3: I'm at Jack Underscore O'Brien. 885 00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: And guess what that's going to do it for this 886 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 2: week's edition of Miles and Jack, I' Matt Boosti's We 887 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 2: will be back next week where everything we said on 888 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,719 Speaker 2: this episode will be confirmed in real life. 889 00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: That's our guarantee. 890 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, You're welcome everyone. 891 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: You're welcome Minnesota, bet All, you don't want to You're 892 00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: welcome Minnesota and You're welcome Los Angeles Laker fans because 893 00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 2: that's also our win too. 894 00:42:58,760 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see you next week. 895 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 2: Alright, you're sure, sure,