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Speaker 1: This is Mick shot, streaming live on Dallascowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the official Dallas Cowboys apt now Here are Bill Jones,

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Speaker 1: Hecma Harrison, Everson Wolves, and Mickey Spagnola.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Cowboy Nation, and welcome to the taj Mahala

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Speaker 2: of football. We are here in the SWBC Mortgage Studios,

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Speaker 2: home of your Dallas Cowboys here in Frisco. I'm heck Maharrison.

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Speaker 2: The truth is in the booth, and obviously the star

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Speaker 2: of the show, Mickey Spagnola is here. Mickey, it's it's Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna get you used to answering this question on Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: All right, Mickey, how are you doing today?

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Speaker 3: Two out of four?

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Speaker 4: Eight bad?

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Speaker 2: Here? Two out of four bad? But you got to

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Speaker 2: answer my question. Yes, how are you doing today? I'm

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Speaker 2: doing better, doing better? Yes, you know, the people got

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Speaker 2: a lot of fans, a lot of followers that people.

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Speaker 2: A lot of people want to know what's going on

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Speaker 2: with Mickey spagnol And you have been wearing that brace

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Speaker 2: all week long. I don't know what's wrong with you,

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Speaker 2: so with some cause your hand is swollen. I've been

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Speaker 2: looking at your fat fingers.

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Speaker 3: You're tired of seeing that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I just want to know.

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Speaker 3: I need this cover to do the whole.

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Speaker 5: What did you, mick?

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Speaker 2: What did you do to yourself?

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Speaker 6: Well, initially thought I fractured a bone in my hand, okay,

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Speaker 6: And the hand specialist read the X ray and said, no,

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Speaker 6: you didn't do that. You got some degenerative stuff going

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Speaker 6: on in your hand that you irritated, okay, and it

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Speaker 6: caused my hand to swell up and sore.

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Speaker 2: And so the story goes, you were power lifting.

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Speaker 3: That's right that What did you do? I started bowling left.

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Speaker 2: Yes, something happened. What were you doing to do?

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Speaker 3: It's a dumb story.

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Speaker 2: You got ain't got number of time.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to carry something with my left hand

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Speaker 6: and it irritated it.

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Speaker 2: That's all that happened.

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Speaker 6: Well, it was a one of the rolling garbage cans.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the kind of just pushed down and pull.

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Speaker 6: Out and bend it. And when I went to bend

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Speaker 6: it down, it didn't bend because it was really heavy and.

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Speaker 4: My hand.

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Speaker 3: Yes, you say, it's not a good I like the left.

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Speaker 2: Handed Mickey, I would have made up something. That's what happened.

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Speaker 3: I've been trying.

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Speaker 2: That's what swow you up like that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and a little old age probably.

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Speaker 2: To go with the degenerative stuff. Yeah. Well, look I

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Speaker 2: know in that, I.

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Speaker 6: Know I'm no longer going to be able to do

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Speaker 6: a two handed backhand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, dude, you have swollen up. I don't know what

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Speaker 2: you did. It's pretty bad.

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Speaker 3: It's down, now, is it?

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Speaker 6: Oh you should have seen it on the weekend.

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Speaker 2: How now? Now? How is that? I'm a I'm a

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Speaker 2: right hand. You right handed? Uh huh? Okay, so you're

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Speaker 2: you're you're good, You're still functioning.

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Speaker 6: Here's what you find out. Okay, there's a hell of

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Speaker 6: a lot of things you'd need two hands to do, yes, sir,

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Speaker 6: and you don't realize it until you only have one.

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Speaker 2: Right Yeah, so you're you're limited.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, or slower, let's put it that way. So

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Speaker 6: it takes more time. Okay, So typing very difficult. Sunday night,

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Speaker 6: after the game, I was doing a lot of picking

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Speaker 6: and pecking and handed or just so with my right

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Speaker 6: hand and you know, doing what the left hand was

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Speaker 6: supposed to do. It took a while I take a

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Speaker 6: long time to write. Oh man, this took even longer.

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Speaker 2: So now you just picking away yet, Well.

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Speaker 6: These fingers are working better. So the only thing that

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Speaker 6: doesn't work is the thumb key to hit the space part.

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Speaker 6: I thought of dictating, right, But if you do that

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Speaker 6: like on a program.

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Speaker 2: Yes, of course.

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Speaker 6: So back in the day when we used to dictate

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Speaker 6: on deadline, right, you didn't have time to get to

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Speaker 6: the office. You'd you know, you know, paragraph, read the

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Speaker 6: sentence period new graph right. Well, if you do that.

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Speaker 3: And somebody's listening to it, it's gonna put.

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Speaker 6: P E R, I O D, of course, and then

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Speaker 6: you've got to go through the whole thing to correct it.

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Speaker 3: So I just picked and pecked.

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Speaker 2: Dude. There's so much stuff out here now that could

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Speaker 2: dictate things, but.

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Speaker 6: You can't do that part of it, right, No, not

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Speaker 6: going to put the paragraph in. No, it's not going

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Speaker 2: Dude. There's something out there.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna read what you said.

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Speaker 2: Not completely. Now, I'm telling you. Technology has advanced to

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Speaker 2: a point now, Mickey, where you being.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, somebody send me that app Okay, I think.

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Speaker 2: I got a few suggestions. I'm gonna get him going

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Speaker 2: for you now in your notebook, then we're gonna start

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Speaker 2: with that. Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs has asked the question

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Speaker 2: to his defensive coordinator if he could play more zone

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Speaker 2: and your thoughts on that? As reports came out that

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Speaker 2: that was a question that Trayvon Diggs is like, look,

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Speaker 2: you know enough of his zone stuff, can you put

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Speaker 2: me in man? Your thoughts on that in the notes

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Speaker 2: you took.

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Speaker 6: Well, let's go back to the Bears game third and eight.

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Speaker 6: He went up to the line of scrimmage to play

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Speaker 6: man and he fell down. Remember that play? Okay, So,

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Speaker 6: as Everson has preached to us on and on, it's

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Speaker 6: harder to play man than it is zone.

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Speaker 3: And so.

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Speaker 6: You know, it's not just all about him. It's about

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Speaker 6: getting everybody else ready to go. And you know a

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Speaker 6: lot of you know, he hasn't played any football. No

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Speaker 6: one wants a factor that in. Everybody say, well, he's

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Speaker 6: got a knee, Okay, fine, he spent time last week

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Speaker 6: on the stationary bike there in practice he was limited, right,

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Speaker 6: so they didn't start him. And you know it's getting

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Speaker 6: interpreted as he got benched. I looked at it is

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Speaker 6: they were trying to regulate his snaps. And the third,

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Speaker 6: the third possession, he went out there at cornerback. The

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Speaker 6: first two they had digs in Elam and then Ready

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Speaker 6: Steward when they went to Nickel, and then they finally

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Speaker 6: switched it up and they actually when he went in,

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Speaker 6: they played Bland into Nickel a couple snaps, but then

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Speaker 6: they ended up going back to Ready. So I just

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Speaker 6: think he's got to play better and be able to

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Speaker 6: play more than I don't know what he had twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty five thirty snaps. So, and here's the other thing

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Speaker 6: his percentage of coverage or whatever. That yardage thing was, Okay,

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Speaker 6: if you're playing zone, are you responsible for who you're

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Speaker 3: Who makes that decision?

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Speaker 6: Right right? Because you're probably not covering the guy you

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Speaker 6: off the scrimmage. If that guy goes inside, you're not

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Speaker 6: going inside with him. No, you get charged for those yardage.

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Speaker 2: Now, I mean, I guess the bigger question when you

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Speaker 2: say playing time, Trayvon Diggs hadn't missed any game game

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Speaker 2: time this season, correct.

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Speaker 6: Well, he's he's played limited on a line of course,

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Speaker 6: coming back, coming back from the knee raff.

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Speaker 2: All of those expectations exactly is Mickey, is what you're

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Speaker 2: talking about more related to the off season than it

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Speaker 2: is what you're talking about what's happening right now.

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Speaker 6: Because he hadn't played, so he limited himself physically getting

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Speaker 6: ready to play football, Okay, but not the physical part,

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Speaker 6: the ability to get back and play.

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Speaker 2: How long do you think he's gonna wear that? How

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Speaker 2: long this as far as this season, as this season

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Speaker 2: goes along, Yeah, how long do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think it's time.

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Speaker 2: It's time.

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Speaker 5: It's time.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you start playing like Trayvon Diggs and and and

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Speaker 6: your heart into it. Also now it sounds good. Now

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Speaker 6: you've got to perform. And when Bland got back, you

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Speaker 6: know the same thing with him. It's like he missed

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Speaker 6: what two games? This was the first first game he played, right,

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Speaker 6: are you going to sit there and analyze, you know,

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Speaker 6: coming back from injury, Oh he did this or he

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Speaker 6: didn't do this? Right, It takes a while to get

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Speaker 6: back to play football, and that's why they kind of

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Speaker 6: regulate their snaps to begin with.

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Speaker 3: So now I think it's.

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Speaker 6: Getting closer to having your maybe top three guys out

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Speaker 6: there if Elam's considered one of the top three, right,

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Speaker 6: and then Reddy Stewart. Yes, so those are your four

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Speaker 6: guys you're playing. So I think you got a mix

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Speaker 6: and match. But obviously the assignments have to be better.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna see Wan Yer Thomas starting at safety for

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Speaker 6: hooker it sounds like he's probably out a couple of weeks.

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Speaker 6: And and then the linebackers have to play better too

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Speaker 6: if you're going to play zone, so the whole zone

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Speaker 6: is not always on the corners.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's it's everybody. It's that back, right, and

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Speaker 2: they have to communicate better, and that's been one of

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Speaker 2: the main things that you've heard coach.

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Speaker 3: I think that's improved. But I think that.

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Speaker 6: No, just knowing what you got to do. I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know what you got to do. Now you've got

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Speaker 6: to do it right to carry out your assignment. So

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Speaker 6: you know, Abrafers talked about it.

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Speaker 3: He was doing his deal.

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Speaker 6: Just before I are still doing it. Probably when I

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Speaker 6: came down and he you know, he basically said, yeah,

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Speaker 6: Diggs came to me. He said, I value his pinion.

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Speaker 6: His opinion, but we've got to grow as a group,

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Speaker 6: not just guys out here. Yeah right, okay, you go

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Speaker 6: play man and everybody else will plays zone.

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Speaker 2: Hey, Deon Sanders ask him about that.

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Speaker 6: Right, So, so I think there's a lot more to it,

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Speaker 6: but I think it's just getting back to playing football,

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Speaker 6: and he just hasn't done that much over the last

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Speaker 6: well think about it. I don't remember how many games

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Speaker 6: he missed the year before with the ACL.

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Speaker 2: It happened late, so I believe it may have been

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Speaker 2: five or six games.

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Speaker 6: Okay, And then last year it was it was the

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Speaker 6: knee again, the other knee.

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Speaker 2: Almost the entire season felt like.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and he tried to play through it and then

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Speaker 6: sat out, then came back, and then they put him

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Speaker 6: on ir uh and then he had surgery and it

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Speaker 6: was a serious surgery too. It was complicated. Yes, so uh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: they just got to get him back to playing his

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Speaker 6: brand of football, regardless if they're in man or in there,

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Speaker 6: if they're in zones.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, Mickey, Mickey. I think that a

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Speaker 2: part of his game is confidence, and he can't be

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Speaker 2: confident the way that he's been playing. You talk about

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Speaker 2: the third and eight play against the Chicago Bears where

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Speaker 2: he tries to get hands on, he missed, he stumbles,

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Speaker 2: and the guy burns him for a touchdown. And that

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Speaker 2: isn't something that there isn't something that we've been seeing

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Speaker 2: from Trayvon Diggs since he had the knee injury. But

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Speaker 5: Right now, I think I heard I finally saw something.

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Speaker 3: You saw it, my family, you're in there.

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Speaker 6: You along with Don Meredith, Harvey Martin, too Tall Jones

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Speaker 5: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: So you're battlingones, You're battling each other maybe to get

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Speaker 7: Martin man about time, right, I mean, that's a guy.

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Speaker 7: And I'm thinking, why the hell not? You know, don't

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Speaker 5: I don't know how many he has.

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Speaker 7: It gotta be over one hundred and fifteen sacks in

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Speaker 7: I'm sorry when you start just picking and choosing and saying, oh,

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Speaker 5: Why not?

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Speaker 7: Why would he not have a chance. I think he's

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Speaker 7: one satha Cliff's on, and I throw cliffs on. Man,

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Speaker 7: he was here before all of us was here.

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Speaker 6: And I'm hoping ran all of and I'm hoping that

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Speaker 2: That's right. It goes so deflect you just heard. I mean,

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Speaker 7: I've been considered so many times that it doesn't it

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Speaker 5: It was exciting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, back, you know, twenty years ago, I was only

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Speaker 5: And that's just facts.

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Speaker 7: And so when you start talking about hey, man, don't

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Speaker 7: ten years ago, eighteen years ago, fifteen years ago, ten

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Speaker 7: I might the history shows that it just doesn't go anywhere.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it joining so many times you can have your

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Speaker 3: Well look at it this way. You went from a

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Speaker 6: And sixty two fifty two right right, go now, now

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Speaker 5: I gotta tell you the funny story.

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Speaker 7: When I was up modern Day and you know, we're

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Speaker 5: We're having a good time. And they said, well, when you're.

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Speaker 5: Didn't make it.

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Speaker 7: No, I can we see you down in the lobby,

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Speaker 5: Honors deal right right right? Yeah, man.

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Speaker 7: I stayed up there and had me a couple of shots. Man,

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Speaker 7: Hey Everson? Just bring your stuff down?

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Speaker 6: Okay, thanks, Well, at least you're in the one section

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Speaker 7: Yes, no, HP, I have I'm on every Hall of

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Speaker 7: know what the deal was on his workouts and things

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Speaker 7: that nature, but I want to be around my boys.

439
00:22:25,119 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 7: I want to practice with him. I want to be

440
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,560
Speaker 7: where it's familiar, you know, and and not it's not

441
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 7: for them to see, it's it's for It's for me.

442
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,720
Speaker 7: You know, it's for me as a player.

443
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Speaker 2: I want to.

444
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:37,760
Speaker 5: I want to.

445
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,320
Speaker 7: I just want them to know that I have their back.

446
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 7: And just because he's not there does not mean that

447
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,120
Speaker 7: he does not have their back.

448
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 5: But it just when you.

449
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Speaker 7: When you are a team, inclusion is part of it.

450
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Speaker 7: And I was hoping. I was wishing he could have

451
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Speaker 7: included himself on this off season workout.

452
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Speaker 6: You know when you were talking about what Pickens was doing.

453
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Speaker 6: I remember in training camp we see him make these

454
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 6: catches right, and the ball didn't have to be on

455
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Speaker 6: the numbers right. He can catch it here a pie

456
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Speaker 6: and low whatever. And you saw him catch that low one.

457
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 6: And Schottenheimer when he asked him about it, he goes

458
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Speaker 6: and I believe it was shot and Hiram it could

459
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Speaker 6: have been Dak, but I thought it was Shotenheimer he said,

460
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Speaker 6: if they're in man on him, he's open.

461
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Speaker 2: He's open right now.

462
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Speaker 6: Yeah, when you read the defense right, if they want

463
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Speaker 6: to go man, he's open.

464
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Speaker 3: And that is not just any smooth he's now. You

465
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Speaker 3: know how a lot of guys when they run hard,

466
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Speaker 3: they got.

467
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Speaker 5: All this moved action.

468
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 6: Everything's going flopping around, and he's just smooth.

469
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Speaker 7: Down those are the hardest ones to cover because there's

470
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Speaker 7: no tell. When the guy has a lot of action,

471
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Speaker 7: Eventually with that action he's going to have.

472
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Speaker 5: To slow it down and make a move.

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Speaker 7: So it's predictable when you have a guy Steve larger. Uh,

474
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Speaker 7: guys like that where the gate you're talking about, Henry Ella,

475
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 7: the gate is the same, Every route looks the same,

476
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,560
Speaker 7: the pace is the same. Then you can't anticipate, you

477
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 7: can't look for a tail. And the next thing you know,

478
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 7: he's got that plant, that plant foot in the ground

479
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 7: and he goes one way or another. You know what

480
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Speaker 7: I'm talking about with your son being a wide receiver. Yes,

481
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 7: these are the kind of things that are the nuances

482
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Speaker 7: of being a wide receiver. Drew Pearson, same guy, he

483
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 7: was pigeontoed right. So you're watching him and you're looking

484
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Speaker 7: at those legs, you look at this hyps and and

485
00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 7: next thing you know, he's gone. Next thing you know,

486
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 7: he's gone, next thing you know, he's value. And those

487
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 7: are the kind of things that it just drives a

488
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Speaker 7: dB crazy because there is no tail on the route.

489
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Speaker 2: Let me give you got some information here on this

490
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Speaker 2: Jets matchup. The last time George Pickens faced the New

491
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Speaker 2: York Jets. Was last season Russell Wilson sixteen for twenty nine,

492
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Speaker 2: two touchdowns. Remember RUSS two sixty four. George Pickens went

493
00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: five catches for one hundred and eleven yard and a touchdown.

494
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,399
Speaker 2: So on Sauce, they didn't travel, So it was either side.

495
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 2: Even though they had some highlight showing them against Sauce,

496
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 2: you know they matched up well, but everybody he burned

497
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 2: him down didn't matter. Five four to eleven and a

498
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 2: touchdown shows you how explosive he was in that game.

499
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 2: In the deep ball was what really killed the Jets

500
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,120
Speaker 2: that day versus the Pittsburgh Steels thirty seven to fifteen

501
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 2: and to win. Pittsburgh steel Is winning that game and

502
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: the Jets this season with Aaron Glenn, it's they're completely

503
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 2: different makeover as far as the team is concerned, as

504
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Speaker 2: far as the philosophy that he's started to bring. They

505
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 2: have a new offensive coordinator, a young coordinator that's come

506
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Speaker 2: in and he's trying to keep guys like justin fields

507
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Speaker 2: on time. Defensively, they have Steve Wilkes is their defensive coordinator.

508
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Speaker 5: Anything different there, literally.

509
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: They're playing some mixing up just like Ebra Flu's man

510
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: with zone. But when you have a big body in

511
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 2: the middle like Quinn Williams and a defense like that,

512
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 2: they depend a lot on that line, on that defensive

513
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,719
Speaker 2: line to stop them, to stop they just hadn't been

514
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,960
Speaker 2: able to do it, which is surprising for a Steve

515
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:09,840
Speaker 2: Wilks defense.

516
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Speaker 5: Here's here's what I like. Uh Pickens AFC. So this

517
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 5: is his wheelhouse.

518
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 7: He plays against these guys, all owe them well, so

519
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 7: you know it's gonna be some action going on out there.

520
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 7: It's gonna be some scores that need to be settled.

521
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,320
Speaker 7: Sauce might not, might be feeling something kind of way

522
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Speaker 7: about how Pickens got them last time. That's gonna be

523
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Speaker 7: a nice matchup, not just against Sauce but that entire

524
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Speaker 7: Jet secondary because.

525
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Speaker 5: They remember me, Dickens. You remember me? You know here

526
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:43,920
Speaker 5: I am, I'm back.

527
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 7: I can't wait for that that emotion to come out

528
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 7: in this game.

529
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Speaker 3: If they remember them, then they're gonna put two guys

530
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Speaker 3: and that's fine.

531
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Speaker 5: And that's fine.

532
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 6: Because it looks like Turpin might not make it back

533
00:26:59,119 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 6: for this game.

534
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Speaker 3: He thought practice he's.

535
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 6: Got a foot injury and uh he couldn't be out,

536
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:09,880
Speaker 6: So what are you looking at Pickens Tolbert.

537
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Now that's a big disappointment, and there is a lot

538
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: of disappointment with that. That injury report that came out yesterday.

539
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,440
Speaker 2: There were a ton of names. Tyler Smith was on there.

540
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,359
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different names, but Pickens, excuse me,

541
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 2: Cavant Turpin being one of those names that was on.

542
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 2: It really does and it affects you see how he

543
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: affected that Green Bay game with that big run, and

544
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,280
Speaker 2: we've got and you say, but there was a holding.

545
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 6: Call, so they had seven guys that did not practice

546
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 6: booker ceedee lamb. We knew that, right, We sort of

547
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 6: knew Miles Sanders was going to be out.

548
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 7: Uh.

549
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 6: But then when you see guiding, it's still in concussion protocol.

550
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 6: Now that's three starters on the offensive line, and then

551
00:27:57,920 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 6: all of a sudden, Tyler Smith shows up on it

552
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 6: with a knee and then turping, and you're starting going

553
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:10,959
Speaker 6: getting a lot of thin on offense. It is, and

554
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,639
Speaker 6: we rely on the offense to keep us in the game.

555
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 6: So the guiding thing, you know, if he can't go,

556
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: that's three fifths of your offensive line.

557
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 2: I feel so much better about Nate Thomas than i'd be.

558
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:29,960
Speaker 6: But I do, yeah, yeah, because it was it was

559
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 6: intentional that he got that at least one series maybe

560
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 6: two at right tackle for Steve because they were they

561
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 6: were preparing him, and then he had to go to

562
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 6: the left side in overtime. And I thought he played well.

563
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,720
Speaker 6: He played well during during training.

564
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Speaker 5: Can no, you talked well about him doing training.

565
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

566
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Speaker 6: I just liked for a guy that hadn't played football

567
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 6: since twenty twenty three because he spent all last year

568
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 6: on injured reserve, he does not look like that no

569
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 6: big man strong, so lacks experience. Obviously you can get

570
00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 6: taken advantage of. But when I saw that that deal,

571
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 6: and it's like.

572
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Speaker 2: That's a kudos to Will McClay and his staff of

573
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 2: making that decision between Nate Thomas and the other left

574
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,960
Speaker 2: tackle that they had they traded away late. What was

575
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: his name? Uh, left tackle? He was Richard? Yes, yes, yes,

576
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: my man. Yeah, awesome, yes him awesome forgot about him

577
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 2: that fast. Ah, yeah, but I remember that, Dame. But

578
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 2: everybody was kind of wondering how.

579
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 3: It was somewhat of a competition.

580
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: Absolutely, because you thought that Austin Richards had the leg

581
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Speaker 2: up on him, and then they and Nate Thomas steps

582
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: in and he does a good job. And that's the

583
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,120
Speaker 2: thing in this. I don't know how it's going to

584
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: work out on game day, but hearing that Tyler Smith

585
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 2: may be ready to go even with the with the

586
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 2: ankle and maybe guiding. But again, the confidence level with

587
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: Nate Thomas is there. I tell you where else I'm

588
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:53,880
Speaker 2: confident is in that center and right guard. Not a

589
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 2: lot of people talked about the job the TJ Bass

590
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 2: and you're.

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Speaker 11: Come on, now, you know what the highlighted they did

592
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,239
Speaker 11: play between the two of them right there. Yeah, and

593
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 11: we probably just take this for granted, but there was

594
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Speaker 11: a reason when Schottenheim put his staff together that Clayton Adams,

595
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 11: an offensive line coach, became the coordinator, and then they

596
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Speaker 11: brought in yeah yeah, and then they brought in a

597
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 11: offensive coordinator from Kansas State who was an offensive line

598
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Speaker 11: coach to be the offensive line coach.

599
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Speaker 5: We covered that right here, right Remember.

600
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Speaker 6: We talked to it, and they doubled down on the coaches

601
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 6: on the offensive line and maybe they have done something.

602
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 6: You know, coaches really never get credit for doing good.

603
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:47,960
Speaker 6: It's always like, well, they what are they doing?

604
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 2: Well?

605
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Speaker 6: They had these offensive linemen ready to go and talents.

606
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Speaker 7: They had the coaches, like you said, they had the

607
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 7: coaches ready, right, they had the one the ones in

608
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Speaker 7: placed that they felt comfortable with. Who's resume is Stella

609
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 7: and y'all you guys called it. You and Bill talked

610
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 7: about this. This was early in mixed shots about how

611
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 7: we're going to be running this ball and they have

612
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,720
Speaker 7: we're gonna be running this You know.

613
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Speaker 6: They're not Saquon Barkley running it, but they four games

614
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Speaker 6: in a row with.

615
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Speaker 5: More than right now.

616
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Speaker 3: Well, yeah, he's drugging que right now.

617
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 2: That's right.

618
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Speaker 3: Well that's because everybody's no, you're not doing this anymore.

619
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Speaker 2: No, but that is safe to say. Isn't that something

620
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Speaker 2: I bet you're coming into the season. You wouldn't have

621
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 2: thought that when you're talking about running games. But the

622
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,960
Speaker 2: Cowboys all right now running game. Whether the Philadelphia Eagles come.

623
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Speaker 7: Concerted effort as we talked about, to get the personnel

624
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:43,320
Speaker 7: in there, get the coaches first, get that culture that

625
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 7: we talked about, starting with that running culture again.

626
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Speaker 5: And it's working. That's something you know, sometimes it's here

627
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 5: a miss. This time it worked.

628
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Speaker 3: And he's done that.

629
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Speaker 6: Schottenheimer wherever he's been an offensive coordinator, there's been a

630
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 6: priority on.

631
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 3: Running the football.

632
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Speaker 2: You love it when the playing comes together, and it did.

633
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 5: That's right, you know.

634
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 6: And if you look at when they opened the game,

635
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,760
Speaker 6: I know they went three and out, but it was

636
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 6: three run plays right, even on third and four in

637
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: the second series, they ran the ball one two.

638
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 3: Three times.

639
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Speaker 7: I think, yeah, when you look at Dak's play, I mean,

640
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:29,880
Speaker 7: we can talk about how well he's doing this.

641
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: Oh he looks different. Well, that running game helps a lot.

642
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 7: It's it doesn't seem like it at the time because

643
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 7: he's been throwing so many passes. He got the attempts,

644
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 7: he's got the yards and all that. I think that's

645
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 7: because the timing is good. The play calls are timely

646
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 7: to where we got him on the ropes with Javonte

647
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 7: and here all of a sudden, Now you got worried

648
00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 7: about pickings. Now you got worried about ceedee lamb. That's

649
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 7: how you get your forty points a game.

650
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 6: Well, now the Jets might have to worry about Cowboy.

651
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 6: You're gonna go blue right.

652
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: Well, hey, we're gonna stick a pin in it right

653
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 2: there and take our last break and come back with

654
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Speaker 2: the final segment segment talking about Blue and what he

655
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: can do this Sunday against what Blue do for you?

656
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Speaker 2: All Right, I see you see you see you got

657
00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: the band with me. We'll be right back with more

658
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Speaker 2: mixed shots.

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Speaker 2: Look who else decides to show up?

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Speaker 5: And that's up the whole.

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Speaker 2: He just he pours into the studio. That's what. That's

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Speaker 2: He don't walk.

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Speaker 3: He pours, and he brings reading this life syrup.

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Speaker 2: He just kind of right into it. So he poured

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Speaker 4: Left my stuff in the TV studio.

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Speaker 5: Well what is that?

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Speaker 2: What do you got?

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Speaker 4: Marty Ball? Marty Ball? Oh, nice Marty Ball. It's the

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Speaker 4: life and Triumphs of Marty Shot.

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Speaker 2: You get that from the library.

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Speaker 4: It looks like it does.

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Speaker 3: It's due back Friday.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: It says thrift Books.

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Speaker 4: Bought it online.

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Speaker 2: Let it go as a matter of fact.

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Speaker 4: And I'll tell you what. Let me recommend this book

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Speaker 4: to any and all of you out there with the

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Speaker 4: I read it. I read the chapter one last night.

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Speaker 4: I had read it in the off season, and I

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Speaker 4: asked Brian Shot and ib just now, what was your

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Speaker 4: favorite moment in New York when he was the offensive

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Speaker 4: coordinator of the Jets. He immediately said San Diego game,

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Speaker 4: And it was in two thousand and nine AFC Divisional

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Speaker 4: playoff game. Marty Schottenheimer, his dad, had been fired by

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Speaker 4: the Chargers after a fourteen and two season two years

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Speaker 4: earlier in two thousand and seven. And so the Jets

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Speaker 4: are playing the Chargers in the divisional playoff game and

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Speaker 4: it comes down to a fourth and one play at

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Speaker 4: the twenty nine yard line. Jets have a seventeen to

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Speaker 4: fourteen lead, and Brian Schottenheimer calls forty blast, which was

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Speaker 4: right over the right guard, which is exactly Marty didn't

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Speaker 4: call it. That didn't have that same name for the play.

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Speaker 4: I think it was power.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 4: In fact, he wanted on his tombstone to say Marty

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Speaker 4: Schottenheimer Power.

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Speaker 6: Oh.

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Speaker 4: So Marty is coaching the East West Shrine game in Orlando, Florida.

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Speaker 4: He can't be at the game. He's watching on television

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Speaker 4: in a bar in Orlando. Brian's wife and mom are

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Speaker 4: at the game at Qualcomm Stadium, and it comes down

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Speaker 4: to that they got to get one yard to beat

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Speaker 4: the team. That fired Marty Schottenheimer his dad, and he

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Speaker 4: calls forty blasts and Thomas Jones gets two yards.

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Speaker 2: They win the game and go the Thomas Jones.

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Speaker 4: Wow, I mean it. And it is really cool the

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Speaker 4: way this author, Jeffrey Flanagan, the way he set it up.

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Speaker 4: That that's all chapter one in this book.

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Speaker 3: That's my first chapter.

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Speaker 4: That's the first chapter.

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Speaker 6: Wow.

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Speaker 4: And but he painted the picture of where everybody was

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Speaker 4: watching the game and what it meant and yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And Brian's sister Kristen, who apparently knows more football than

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Speaker 4: anybody in the family. She's back home and wherever she live,

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Speaker 4: in North Carolina or someplace and watching it. And it's

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Speaker 4: really cool.

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Speaker 3: So so Bill, I'm peddling a book.

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Speaker 2: Let me let me catch you up. So basically, we've

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Speaker 2: talked about Aaron Glenn, his coaching staff personnel, got to Wilson,

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Speaker 2: talked about Sauce Gardner. We talked about what George Pickens

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Speaker 2: has already done versus the Jets. Five catches, one hundred

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Speaker 2: eleven yards last season and a touchdown, so big plays

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Speaker 2: are open. And then and then just as you were

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Speaker 2: coming into the studio, we were about to get into

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Speaker 2: a picture blue you're looking for then you finally got one.

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Speaker 2: You finally got a picture, and we got to blue.

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Speaker 2: And now we're talking about Blue. So all right, we

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Speaker 2: left you blue do for you.

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Speaker 4: Was brown?

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Speaker 2: We switched, We switched.

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Speaker 3: It's not a sideline promotion.

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Speaker 4: So okay, Mickey wasn't here when we were talking about Blue.

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Speaker 2: Yes, no, he wasn't, so he poured into the conversation.

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Speaker 4: You're excited about Blue.

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Speaker 6: Well, when I see that, Miles Sanders probably not gonna hie, Cavante, Turbin,

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Speaker 6: probably not gonna play.

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Speaker 3: Where are you going to get your speed from?

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Speaker 4: Gotta go Blue?

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Speaker 6: And so they're gonna probably get him going, and maybe

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Speaker 6: even the return kickoffs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would expect for the road to increase for

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Speaker 2: a lot of guys.

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Speaker 3: Definitely kickoffs, right, yeah, don't you think.

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Speaker 6: Matter of fact, the special teams coach is probably talking

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Speaker 6: right now, all.

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Speaker 4: Right, and we he is you hear your pick to

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Speaker 4: click tease for tomorrow?

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Speaker 3: Maybe?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, no, exactly what I'm.

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Speaker 3: Not speaking of.

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Speaker 4: Remember I was the one that I said, temper your enthusiast.

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Speaker 4: That was what I said yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Going through your iPad, find another fourth rounders. Yeah, compare

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Speaker 2: the college careers Texas hate runs deep. This man is

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Speaker 2: not gonna stop Bucky Urbans Robins Jon I'd.

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Speaker 7: Say, of course, yeah, it go, but I felt that

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Speaker 7: that's funny.

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Speaker 6: My my pick to click is going to be the

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Speaker 6: NFC Special Teams Player of the Month that we named

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Speaker 6: two weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: Oh h is that official? Now?

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Speaker 6: When I was on the radio, they told me.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you know who's kicking for the Jets. Former cow

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Speaker 4: we Nick Folk. Nick Folk, forty one year old Nick Folk.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, he's kicking very well.

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Speaker 2: Yes, you know.

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Speaker 4: Aubrey is nine for nine on field goals this season,

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Speaker 4: four for four beyond fifty well. Nick Folk is h

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Speaker 4: seven for seven on field goals and four for four

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Speaker 4: beyond fifty yards at age forty one, and over the

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Speaker 4: last three years beyond fifty yards, he's the best in

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Speaker 4: the league as far as his percentage fifteen for sixteen

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Speaker 4: beyond fifty yards the last three years he grew up.

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Speaker 5: You know, you remember you kicked the ball?

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Speaker 4: Remember that Buffalo game.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean that was a moment to where he

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Speaker 7: was like a second baseman. They couldn't throw the first base.

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Speaker 7: He was like now blocked there you go. Yeah, but

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Speaker 7: he would kick it and it would just take off.

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Speaker 7: Remember he was doing this.

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Speaker 3: And I mean he was good enough to win the job,

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Speaker 3: but this.

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Speaker 5: Is before he got that job.

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Speaker 7: He would in warm upside we call it was a

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Speaker 7: Monday night game and they were looking at him kicked

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Speaker 7: before the game and his kicks would all slice.

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Speaker 4: Well, that one Monday night game I'm talking about at

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Speaker 4: Buffalo where Romo threw how many picks in the first half?

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Speaker 4: Five picks in the first half and the Cowboys came

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Speaker 4: back and won that game on a fifty something yard

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Speaker 4: field goal by Nick Folk after getting the ball back

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Speaker 4: with like nine seconds left. It was the craziest comeback ever.

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Speaker 6: Remember it was that down and out to Witt and

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Speaker 6: I think it was that game to stop the clock

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Speaker 6: in field goal range.

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Speaker 7: I heard something on the way here. The kicker for

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Speaker 7: uh We just played the kicker Forcker Packers. He had

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Speaker 7: made like he had the longest streak of consecutive pats.

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Speaker 5: The one that got three and it was the longest.

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Speaker 4: Took care of that.

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Speaker 5: Jan Ye took care of that.

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Speaker 7: It was the longest streak of successful pats at that moment.

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Speaker 5: And wan Ye took care of.

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Speaker 6: We also talked about Everson being elevated from one hundred

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Speaker 6: and sixty two senior candidates for the Hall of Fame

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Speaker 6: to fifty two.

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Speaker 7: All right, yeah, ask him about it, because I mean,

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Speaker 7: how many times have we been here?

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Speaker 5: Y'all have been here with me like four times? Come on, man,

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Speaker 5: you know so he said, fifty.

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Speaker 3: Two, Don Meredith, Harvey, Martin Lee.

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Speaker 4: What's the next stage? Twenty five? Get down to twenty

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Speaker 4: five and then nine, got three?

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Speaker 3: He got a waste.

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Speaker 7: Yes, he asked me, why I don't get excited I've done.

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Speaker 7: I will never ask him for that. Gave me a

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Speaker 7: chance to vent. He asked the question, do me a softball?

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Speaker 7: I vented.

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Speaker 2: We are good. So that's been a good show.

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Speaker 4: I can tell you to go back and listen to.

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Speaker 3: It, and we're glad.

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Speaker 6: Uh in Southlake, you're paying your taxes. So the head

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Speaker 6: football coach could make six figures as the head coach, and.

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Speaker 4: Most of the coaches make six figures and athletic directly,

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Speaker 4: do they really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a whole bunch of it. There's a great coach at.

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Speaker 2: Lincoln High School is not making six figures anyway. He

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Speaker 2: ready to take us about it.

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Speaker 6: Because I think he was in the story. By the way,

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Speaker 6: they did a deal in the Morning News. They did

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Speaker 6: a survey of the North Texas football coach look at

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Speaker 6: that and how many of them were making six fingers

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Speaker 6: good stuff, including either the salary and stipends or whatever else.

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Speaker 5: Well, man, when you.

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Speaker 7: Look at Texas high school football, man, I mean this,

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Speaker 7: it's we.

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Speaker 5: Dominate all over the dog on country.

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Speaker 7: So you better if you're gonna pay some coaches six figures,

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Speaker 7: it should be in this area.

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Speaker 4: Of all your teachers and coaches in high school, who

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Speaker 4: had the most impact on you?

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Speaker 7: Uh, Coach Allen Holiday, there you go, yeah, Coach Allen

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Speaker 7: he was. He was the one that gave me a

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Speaker 7: chance to play my senior year. I had my bet

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Speaker 7: all year and he said, okay, how about you.

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Speaker 2: Reginald Samples, there you go. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And now at Duncanville, Steve Miller. These are all coaches.

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Speaker 2: He's a coach.

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Speaker 4: He had a Steve Miller band.

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Speaker 6: Uh, he was football coach, the track coach and went on.

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Speaker 6: He didn't get in the I got it.

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Speaker 3: It was too corny to.

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Speaker 2: Did he have a fan?

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Speaker 4: Steve Miller coach Milford, Tom Milford basketball coach right, so

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Speaker 4: they deserve.

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Speaker 2: As he as.

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Speaker 7: He allowed me to play. His final words were, I

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Speaker 7: don't want no crap out of you.

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, ye be guys.

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Speaker 3: Mine was I got to play once.

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Speaker 6: We had a we had a bunch of guys hurt,

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Speaker 6: and the coach set me in. He goes, well, at

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Speaker 6: least you know the plays. I said, yeah, I don't

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Speaker 6: know how well, but I know.

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Speaker 4: I don't you wish there was huddle back then?

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Speaker 6: Oh no, you should have seen the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 6: We had somebody, we had somebody missing it left guard.

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Speaker 3: It's like everybody else played guard. I came in at guard.

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Speaker 2: Jesus that talk about the easiest sack in America were

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Speaker 2: out of here. Mixed shots, we had fun. Citizen Go Cowboys.

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