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Speaker 1: First Date follow Up powered by the Advocates Injury Attorneys

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Speaker 1: online at advocusla dot com.

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Speaker 2: Julia is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 2: follow up, but she's getting ghosted by a guy named Walker.

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Speaker 2: So in a minute, we're gonna call him and see

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Speaker 2: if we can figure out why he's ghosting her. But first, Julia,

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Speaker 2: how long has it been since you heard from Walker?

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Speaker 3: About a week? Okay?

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Speaker 2: Week?

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's kind of the sweet spot. How many times

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Speaker 4: have you reached out to him in that in that time?

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Speaker 1: I've sent him a couple of tecks, like three or four, Like,

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Speaker 1: what's a couple about three?

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Speaker 2: It's not too bad, and you've heard nothing from.

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Speaker 3: Him, nothing, not a peep.

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Speaker 2: All right, tell us a little bit about your date.

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Speaker 1: He asked me to meet him at a sushi restaurant,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was really cool.

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Speaker 3: Okay, we had dinner and he hadn't.

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Speaker 1: Had much sushi before, so he let me kind of

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Speaker 1: pick everything out, and he seemed to really like what

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Speaker 1: I picked out, like especially.

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Speaker 3: The spicy tuna.

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Speaker 2: Go ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So dinner was went really well. He told me

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Speaker 1: all about his business study starting, and he just seems

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Speaker 1: so motivated and passionate. I loved that. And then we

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Speaker 1: went for a walk, which I thought was a really

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Speaker 1: good sign.

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Speaker 2: Okay, how was the walk?

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Speaker 3: It was nice. I mean it lasted about an hour

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Speaker 3: and we just kept talking.

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Speaker 2: How did it end? Like, did you a kiss?

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Speaker 3: Hug? Five? We hugged? Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 4: Did anything happen between the walk and dinner that may

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Speaker 4: have been a little bit off?

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Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing I can think is that

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Speaker 1: I recently I told him a lot about my work too,

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Speaker 1: because he was telling me a lot about his business.

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Speaker 1: And I recently got a promotion at work and I

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Speaker 1: was so excited about it.

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Speaker 3: Congrats, thank you. So I just wondered if that rubbed

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Speaker 3: him the wrong way or something.

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Speaker 2: Like, how do you think that could rub him the

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Speaker 2: wrong way?

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Speaker 1: Well, he loved a little I don't know, like he

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Speaker 1: didn't want to ask me a lot about it or something.

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Speaker 1: And I wondered if because he's having he's just at

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Speaker 1: the beginning stages of starting his business, if he felt

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Speaker 1: a little insecure or something that I'm doing so well

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Speaker 1: in my career.

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Speaker 2: Did he talk a lot about his business?

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Speaker 3: He did talk a fair amount.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he seemed excited about it and like he

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Speaker 1: was really interested in what he's doing.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how that would take away from what

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Speaker 4: you're doing, but I mean there are guys like that,

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Speaker 4: so I believe it. But I'm this, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It seems like maybe he's not quite where he wants

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Speaker 1: to be in his career.

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Speaker 3: So I wonder if that was it.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's also kind of a red flag for you,

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Speaker 4: because you want to be with somebody that's a little

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Speaker 4: bit more secure in that space, right, If that was it,

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Speaker 4: I mean, we're highly speculating it's this point.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I honestly, I feel like I've come

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Speaker 1: across this before. So Okay, that's what made me wonder

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Speaker 1: if that's the only thing I can think of, because

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Speaker 1: we just had the.

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Speaker 2: Best time, okay. And then at the end when you

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Speaker 2: guys hugged, did he say like, oh I want to

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Speaker 2: meet up again or anything like that, or did he

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Speaker 2: just bounce?

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Speaker 3: No, I think we just said we had a really

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Speaker 3: nice time.

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Speaker 2: Okay. Well, we'll see if we can figure it out

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Speaker 2: for you. We'll play a song, come back and then

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Speaker 2: call him and see if you'll tell us why he's

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Speaker 2: ghosting you and maybe get you another date. If you

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Speaker 2: still want one? Okay, Okay, all right, we'll play song

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Speaker 2: come Back, get your first Date follow up next. Right

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Speaker 2: in the middle of your first date follow up if

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Speaker 2: you're just joining us. Julia is on the phone and

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Speaker 2: she's getting ghosted by a dude named Walker. So we're

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Speaker 2: just about to call him see if he'll tell us

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Speaker 2: why he's ghosting her and maybe get her another date.

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Speaker 2: But before we do that, Julia, why don't you refresh

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Speaker 2: everybody's memory on your date with Walker.

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Speaker 1: We went out for an amazing sushi dinner and had

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Speaker 1: a nice walk afterwards, and he told me about his

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Speaker 1: business that he's starting up, and he seems super into it,

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Speaker 1: and I told him all about my promotion at work

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Speaker 1: and how excited.

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Speaker 3: I was about it.

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Speaker 2: Did you make a lot of Walker jokes while you

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Speaker 2: were walking? How couldn't even think about that? I just

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Speaker 2: thought of her right now. That could also be a

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Speaker 2: reason if you wouldn't stop with the Walker jokes like

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Speaker 2: I would go hand on.

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Speaker 3: That that would have been a great joke to.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I was thinking maybe that is the reason, but

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Speaker 2: maybe not. William, we'll call him right now, are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go. Hi, I'm I askeeking the Walker

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Speaker 2: please ye hey, man, how are you? This is a

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Speaker 2: radio show. It's called The Jebel Show. My name's Jebel.

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Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Youana.

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Speaker 2: Also on the show. Hi, I'm Victoria. We got an

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Speaker 2: email about you from somebody that you are ghosting and

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Speaker 2: they want know why you're not calling them back.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay, yeah, okay, this is Julia.

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Speaker 2: Walker. Yeah, Julia emailed us, told us a little bit

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Speaker 2: about your date and is really confused. Why you're Ghostinger?

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Speaker 2: Am I telling us?

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Speaker 6: I mean, that's that's about it. I'm starting to think

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Speaker 6: maybe even in a radio show about it could be

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Speaker 6: on that list. But that wasn't it initially?

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Speaker 2: Okay, so wait, what's the deal? Why are you Ghostinger?

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Speaker 6: I don't know, man. Like, we went to dinner and

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Speaker 6: it was fun. It was great.

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Speaker 5: Actually, we got some sushi. I'm not used to that stuff,

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Speaker 5: but I housed a couple spicy tuneroles. Those things are

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Speaker 5: great and it was fun, you know, like it seemed

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Speaker 5: pretty easy at first, but she kind of got on,

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Speaker 5: Oh god, she kind of got on like this tangent

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Speaker 5: about her job and stuff and how she got this

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Speaker 5: new promotion.

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Speaker 6: And then she was very excited about it.

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Speaker 5: It's it's it's cool, but it's kind of dominated the whole.

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Speaker 6: Back end of the night. So I don't know, it

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Speaker 6: just kind of felt weird.

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Speaker 2: Not I don't know she talked about her job too much?

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Speaker 6: Is that it it's not even just about I don't

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Speaker 6: know about the job, but just seemed to be just

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Speaker 6: all encompassing, you know, like I don't know, like somebody's

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Speaker 6: whole identity is wrapped up in that, you know, and.

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Speaker 5: It's just I don't know, it just kind of it was, Oh,

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Speaker 5: it was kind of boring.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry her.

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Speaker 2: Job is boring, or the way she talked about it.

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Speaker 5: No, not that I don't know, you like, I don't

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Speaker 5: know much about finance, but that you know, just the

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Speaker 5: same thing over and over again.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: Does that make sense if somebody's talking about.

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Speaker 5: Just something like you get excited and then it just

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Speaker 5: goes downhill and it's like, God, all right, I get it.

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Speaker 2: You know, I mean, is that all she talked about?

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Speaker 2: Is this wasn't interesting or what I mean?

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Speaker 6: Sure it's interesting. You first, she talked about.

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Speaker 5: Some friends too, and you know, they seem nice and

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Speaker 5: a little bit about her family, but for.

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Speaker 6: The whole thing.

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Speaker 5: It was about, like wanting a promotion and then what

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Speaker 6: It, and I finally got it.

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Speaker 5: Now I felt about it afterwards, like God, rent a

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Speaker 5: movie or something that's terrible.

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Speaker 6: I shouldn't say.

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Speaker 2: That, but I feel bad or something. Did you ask question?

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Speaker 5: I mean the usual stuff like, you know, where'd you

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Speaker 5: grow up and what were you into as a kid?

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Speaker 5: You know, did you play any sports? You know, where

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Speaker 5: do you live in the city, like that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: You know, pretty pretty basic stuff I think when you're

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Speaker 5: on a first date.

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Speaker 2: All right, well thanks for telling us, man.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure, thanks for asking.

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Speaker 2: No problem. Julia is also on the on the phone

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Speaker 2: and has been listening this whole time and wants to

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Speaker 2: talk to you. I shall tell you that I don't.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, no, I'm I'm sure she is, man, Yeah, right.

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Speaker 2: She really is.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 6: Hey, welcome, Hey Julia.

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Speaker 3: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess I'm a little confused. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: seem yeah. I don't even know how to put it

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Speaker 6: I did when I didn't know you were there. But uh,

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Speaker 6: you know, I don't want to be mean. It's just

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Speaker 6: I'm really happy for you, but it just I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just feel like maybe we're it's just not in

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just feel like someone can't accept a

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Speaker 1: woman in a relationship to be successful.

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, that's that's not it. That's no, it's

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Speaker 6: not it at all. It's you know, I just wanted

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Speaker 6: to somebody with a little more interest in life.

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Speaker 3: I just are you intimidated by me?

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Speaker 6: Not even a little bit? No, no, not at all.

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Speaker 5: I think it's great, you know, it seems to make

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Speaker 5: you really happy, and that's wonderful.

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Speaker 6: I just don't know if I can be a part

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Speaker 1: Well, I think you're intimidated by me, and you can't

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Speaker 1: be with a woman who's more successful than you.

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Speaker 3: I think that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: I'm sorry, I really don't know how to respond to that.

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Speaker 5: But that's absurd, that's not what this is. And it

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Speaker 5: feels kind of I don't know, that feels oddly accusatory

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Speaker 5: and weird to go to. It's not that at all,

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Speaker 5: trust me. I just think we're on two different playing

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Speaker 5: fields right now.

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Speaker 6: That's all.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I think that's exactly what it is. But agree

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Speaker 1: to disagree.

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Speaker 5: I guess sure, I guess, yeah, I'm sorry if I

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Speaker 5: gave you that impression, but that's not what this is,

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Speaker 5: so please don't harbor that.

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Speaker 1: Ill will towards Okay, Well, if you don't want someone

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Speaker 1: who's happy and feels good about their job, then you

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Speaker 1: know what can I do about that?

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Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do about it. Keep being those things.

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Speaker 6: It's just not for me.

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Speaker 1: I think it's great. I'm very happy for you. Okay, Well,

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Speaker 1: I don't really believe you. So you know, just because

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Speaker 1: you can't be happy at your job doesn't mean I

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Speaker 1: can't be happy at mine.

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Speaker 2: I sure, Yeah, okay, Walker, would you like another day

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Speaker 2: with Julia? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I think that would be horrible.

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Speaker 2: This was Ralph Jubile's first date fallow Up