1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Benn and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: with our radio. Hi everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:12,039 Speaker 1: podcast Today. I have just to Sutner with me. We're 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: live from Tahoe by the way, so we're doing podcast 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: together in person in the same room for the first 6 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,639 Speaker 1: time in a long time, and we're going to be recording, 7 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:25,479 Speaker 1: recording l L recapping this episode UM four of The 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,080 Speaker 1: Bachelorette together. I'm so excited to do it with you, Trista. 9 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 1: I always love your fadeback. You and I we get screeners, 10 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, and you had watched the day before me, 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: and we were kind of talking about the episode, and 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 1: like you said, like what to expect and stuff in 13 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: our car ride yesterday from the airport to the hotel, 14 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: and You're like, there's like something I'm not sure I 15 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,880 Speaker 1: really want to dive deep into, but like I'm definitely 16 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: feeling it. And then I watched the episode and I 17 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: felt the exact same way. What we're talking about here 18 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: is I think what we'll concentrate on in this episode 19 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: and that is just the fact that there's a lot 20 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: of Rachel feeling defeated and that I understand. But it 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: was a little overboard. We'll dive into that when we 22 00:01:15,600 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 1: get there, but we do like to go in chronological 23 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:24,760 Speaker 1: order here, so let's start with the morning after last 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: rows ceremony. There's only one thing to say. What you 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: got to read read my mind here, so remind me 26 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:40,240 Speaker 1: morning after is Hayden and meet. Oh well, meat Ball, 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 1: that's it? Oh my? What blaring? Like my question? I 28 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: was just like, okay, meat Boss here, meat Boss here, 29 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: Meatballs here, we're not addressing meat is here, right, And 30 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: he just addresses it and says she gave him a 31 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,240 Speaker 1: second chance. Totally. They left us on a cliffhanger a 32 00:01:56,240 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: little bit. Okay. They showed their conversation and she was like, 33 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,000 Speaker 1: dude of mine, you basically and now you're saying we 34 00:02:03,040 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 1: need hard time together. It would have been hilarious conversation 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 1: to see, like how she actually dealt with it? Right? 36 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: How do they not show it? I don't know. Release 37 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: the video online, guys, put it on. There has to 38 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: be dot com. We need this bonus footage. It shouldn't 39 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: have been bonus footage, no, which should have been included. 40 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: That was kind of a big deal deal. Yeah, I 41 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:29,399 Speaker 1: know he denied her Rose I do, I do give 42 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,639 Speaker 1: him credit that afterwards, it's kind of like a Jason 43 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 1: Mesnick thing. Didn't seem like a joke when he was 44 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: the whole to the music, right, it's like, oh, this 45 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:41,679 Speaker 1: is like a funny thing that's supposed to be in 46 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: the credit bay right, totally, you're right, You're right, But 47 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: but I do What I want to say is it 48 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:51,240 Speaker 1: was kind of like a Mesnic thing realizing after he 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: gave Melissa the rose that he wanted to be with 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 1: Molly and meat Ball, realizing that he denied her rose, 51 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: and then he was regretting it. Just stick around, he did. Yeah, No, 52 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: I know, I think you're not getting Gabby's rose. You're 53 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:11,839 Speaker 1: obviously coming back because you want to stick around yourself, right, 54 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: And I think as we see later, which you know 55 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: will go in chronological order, But I do think that 56 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: there's a role for him. It's probably not with Rachel 57 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: in the end, but there's a role for him probably. 58 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: He's actually quite fun to watch. He's pretty endearing. The 59 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: other big thing that comes out with the Next Morning 60 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 1: is that Hayden is saying pretty crappy things he's saying 61 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: on film, like, does he even freaking realize he's part 62 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: of a television show, I know. So he says things 63 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: like I don't see how any of these guys can 64 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: see themselves marrying one of them. And then he's apparently 65 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: says something about boobies and how his ex girlfriend has 66 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 1: a better rack than these girls. Well and also and 67 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:02,839 Speaker 1: I first of all, these girls got nice bities. I mean, 68 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:08,760 Speaker 1: come on, Brian. Literally, we were watching the episode, and 69 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: Ryan rarely watches, but he was watching with me, and 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: he was like, I don't know how that guy is 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: actually like looking her in the eye. Yes, talk about boobies, 72 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 1: but I will say that, Um, Hayden did say something 73 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: about my ex like neither of these I don't know 74 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: if it was bitches compared to the bitches and compared 75 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: to I don't know what. We're not like formulating the 76 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: sentences properly, but those are the phrases, let's see. Frustrating. 77 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,599 Speaker 1: He also said something like Gabby used the word rough 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: around of the edges to describe herself, but then I 79 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: say it to her and she's not okay with it. 80 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: It's a little It's kind of like, um, when girls 81 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: call each other bitches. Oh, exactly like if we said, 82 00:04:54,920 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: if we said these bitches. It's like an endearing thing 83 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: bitches all the time and references right right, Yes, we 84 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:07,119 Speaker 1: can call each other bitches. You cannot this bitch no, 85 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: not okay. When a boyfriend, a potential love match calls 86 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: you a bit not okay. Not for all those guys 87 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: listening out there, don't ever use the word yeah. All right. 88 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,159 Speaker 1: So now we see that Jason and Tino get picked 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: out of the crowd to do the one on one 90 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: day it's in Paris. What I'm assuming happens here because 91 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: it's because like they get separated, is the other guys 92 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 1: are staying back, you know how Usually they say and 93 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: go pack your backs because an hour you're hitting there 94 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: planning going to friends. That never happens, as we always 95 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: tell you this, It like usually has a day over 96 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and like an l a X airport, you barely ever 97 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 1: go on the plane when they say you're going in 98 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: plan right, So these guys are going to hang back, 99 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 1: and I'm assuming that Jason and Tino gets to fly solo, 100 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: which is probably really nice and relaxing for them, although 101 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 1: I did kind of have a little thought I wonder 102 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: if they're missing like the hangout the guys because it 103 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 1: is fun. The travel days are fun. The travel days 104 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 1: are fun. They'll experience it, apparently on a cruise ship. 105 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: I know that. I'm a huge cruiser. You are teen cruises. Yes, 106 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: they're all royal. They're all Royal Crube except one princess 107 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: that I went on seventh grade. We did not like 108 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: Princess Princess, will never sponsor because princess. We are actually 109 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 1: godparents to the Ruby Princess. Oh my gosh, so horrible 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: of me to say. Listen, it was. It was two 111 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 1: thousand and we just know we had we had gone 112 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: Royal crubeyan and then we tried our princess and we're like, not, 113 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: you know what, you could try it again, because they 114 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: do have beautiful cruise ships and we actually got to 115 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: christen the cruise ships were godparents and cruiship so cool. 116 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 1: So do you have a plaque like a little picture 117 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 1: in the lobby? We do. We are job that is 118 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: so awesome. People will write me all the time and say, oh, 119 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm on your cruise ship. How funny is that? I mean? 120 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,799 Speaker 1: And we get like notifications when it's there. The Ruby 121 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: Princess's birthday, All right, attention Ruby Princess let's do a 122 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: bachelor cruise and try to win me over from my 123 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: seventh grade, my seventh grade. Uh, what's the word, Yeah, 124 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 1: my seventh grade boggle. I was a ridiculous You wonder 125 00:07:22,320 --> 00:07:27,239 Speaker 1: how ridiculous I was. I walked into the dining room 126 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: twelve year old, and I go I started crying because 127 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: it wasn't grand enough in comparison to the Royal Caribbean 128 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: dining room. This from the girl who named her son 129 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: Dawson after Jack Dawson, Like, I have something about romance 130 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 1: upon the high seas. Okay, I love grandios high romance. 131 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: This cruise ship thing is so up my alley, and 132 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: if it's not up yours, then you gotta go cruise more. 133 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: Jared doesn't like cruises, Okay, I can go on. We could, 134 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: we could go on. But yes, Jason and Tina are 135 00:08:02,640 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: flying to Paris for their one on ones, and I'm 136 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,320 Speaker 1: super excited that these two were selected. They were great 137 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: choices for this. I loved the connection between both of them, 138 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 1: and I think that's what we pull into the The 139 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: next breakdown with Rachel is that she has such a 140 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 1: great sill the hell out the whole episode. Tina is sexy. 141 00:08:29,560 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: He's your guy. Like, don't the connection right, Like you 142 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 1: could just leave with him like Claar did. Like you 143 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: guys are amazing together. I know. I'm the same thing 144 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: with Jason and Gabby. I just cute, so cute, and 145 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: he now I know me too. And maybe because he 146 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:54,719 Speaker 1: reminds me of Ryan. You know, Ryan's very reserved and introverted, 147 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: similar to Jason. Jason, right, yeah, similar to Jason. And 148 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: I love that he actually opened up about therapy and 149 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: they could connect about that. I thought it was really deep. 150 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: I thought it it had sparks, chemistry, all the things. 151 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: It was great. They were such a good foundation. Yes, 152 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: I love that. And I didn't even know his name 153 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: before now say, and now he's my favorite of her group. 154 00:09:19,320 --> 00:09:22,719 Speaker 1: I do love him. The one thing with Tino is 155 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: he's also quite reserved. I feel their chemistry a lot. 156 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: I like, there's there's great romance there. But I don't 157 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: I need to know him more. You want to know 158 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,160 Speaker 1: his personality? No, I I want to know more about him. 159 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: He's definitely like that dashing He's just that guy from 160 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: like this cast, you know what I mean, that's the 161 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: one that stands out as like, ah, you're the one 162 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: that everyone like, you're just the one on night one 163 00:09:49,640 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: he stand out. Yeah, he did, and and he still does. Yes. Okay, 164 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: so Yeabby jokes that she's like in love, which is 165 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 1: cute because it was before Jason and her even like 166 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: we're kissing and stuff, as before they're even their hard conversation. Um, 167 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: it's cute that the girls had that little reconvenience. Yes, really, 168 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: you want to go to the bathroom? Super cute. I 169 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 1: love that they have each other. I will say this 170 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: season I have been a little disappointed. And we can 171 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:21,679 Speaker 1: get into that, get into it. We'll get into it. 172 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: But um, I will say that the fact that they 173 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: have each each other, I really do love that. It's 174 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: really nice and it's so genuine. Well, let's get into 175 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: it now because we're kind of getting into that territory. Yeah, okay. 176 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 1: So I just feel like from yes was I years 177 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: and years and years and years and years ago. We 178 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: don't even have to count how many years. Um, things 179 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: have changed, clearly in production, in structure and all of that. Well, 180 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: you're saying yesterday that you aren't a fan of the 181 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 1: fact that they're like kind of winging it and they're 182 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:57,760 Speaker 1: letting the girls decide the format. It does not make 183 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 1: any sense to me why Jesse will walk in and 184 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: be like, well, it's up to you. I'm like, uh no, 185 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be up to them. They should be given 186 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:10,960 Speaker 1: like the the you want them scaffolding if you will, 187 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, like the structure of it, and then they 188 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: can play with whatever. But I just feel like it's 189 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 1: so messy. I don't like how messy it is and 190 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: how like everything's up in the air. I feel like 191 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: I don't know if it should have been from the 192 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 1: get go. There should have been a group for Gabby 193 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: and a group for Rachel. I don't know that that 194 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: would have worked, but I do feel like there should 195 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 1: be more structure or format. I feel like that could 196 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: have worked. But I love how they do it. The 197 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 1: thing would be here, Actually, this would be super interesting. 198 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: That's something that they would never do. Have the girls 199 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 1: part of casting in the casting room with the producer 200 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: and be like, I want him cast it for me. 201 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: I would idea people would have loved that, right, because 202 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 1: who doesn't love you know, I watched so you think 203 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,559 Speaker 1: you can dance? I don't know if you watch that 204 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 1: show at the this part of the show that I 205 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: love the most is the casting, is the audition part 206 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 1: of it. They need to pull that into the next 207 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: season or onto something that we're so onto, something that 208 00:12:09,040 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: would have been incredible, and it would have given the 209 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: proper structure throughout the entire time, and there wouldn't have 210 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: been any like I'm rejected. I'm rejected, except I suppose 211 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: if you really think about it, those guys could have 212 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 1: been like, I'm in the same room as Gabby now 213 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I want to be with 214 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: Gabby because I guess that could have always happened, and 215 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 1: because this is a show, and you know, we do 216 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: acknowledge productions. Sometimes if there was a guy that was 217 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: a little bit on the fence, of course they're going 218 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,440 Speaker 1: to exploit it. And we see that happening with Logan. 219 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 1: We do. We'll get that to get to that in 220 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 1: a second. Um, But I guess Tristan, my question to 221 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 1: you is about the structure. Don't you feel like now 222 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: we have we have got it? We do? I just 223 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 1: feel like it took like it's been a little hard 224 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: to watch two to this point for me, just because 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: of the lack of structure or format and Um, I 226 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: just feel like there would have been less hurt feelings. 227 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: We could have saved all of that. And mind you, 228 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: I said this to you yesterday. I get it. This 229 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: is a television show. They are trying to get people 230 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: to continue to watch. It's been on for almost twenty years. 231 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: They need to change things up, right, I get it. 232 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: I just feel bad for the girls that they're kind 233 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: of like the guinea pigs in this situation. They're supposed 234 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: to have one job and that is defined love, and 235 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 1: they have kind of two jobs right now, which is 236 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: navigating this unique situation and worrying about their friends. You know, 237 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: Like I don't know. I just feel like there are 238 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot of different variables that didn't have to be 239 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 1: part of the equation. Okay, let's take a quick break 240 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 1: before we get into Gabby's date card. Okay, so Team 241 00:13:58,880 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: Gabby gets their date card. By the way, I like 242 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: the way that they have different parts of the ship. 243 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: Why do I think that's cool? And each guy has 244 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: their own lounge. I think it's cute. But I thought 245 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: it was really funny when one of the guys was like, 246 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember which group it was, and he was like, 247 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: and we can go out on the balcony if we 248 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: want to go outside. Yeah, it's like, well, it seems 249 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: like we have more freedom here. I wonder if they 250 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: have their own rooms. I'm sure you think they each 251 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: other own rooms. And that's a luxury we never had, 252 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: you know that. In one city in Santa Fe, I 253 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 1: had to share a bed with my two friends, a 254 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: king bed. The three of us would. Yeah, that's how 255 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: it was. Well, technically we got me a cod we 256 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: got me a bed. Oh no, I had we had 257 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: twin beds. I never had to share a bed with anybody. 258 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: Very nice. Well, these guys are going on the date 259 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: Nate Kirk, Quincy, Eric Michael, Mario, Spencer, Johnny, and it 260 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 1: says love conquers all, but not without a fight. I'm 261 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: reading that list of guy names and I don't know 262 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:00,680 Speaker 1: if it's because of the season's format, but I don't 263 00:15:00,720 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: know any I know. I know Nates, I know Eric, 264 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: I know Mario, Johnny, But I can't tell you who right. 265 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: You know what I can just because after this episode, 266 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: that is the I couldn't have told you if I 267 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 1: didn't see them on this I can so I can. 268 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: I can picture their faces when I read their name, 269 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: but I wouldn't be able to pull up their name. Yeah, exactly. 270 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: All right, Well, it's a classic bachelorette date. The guys 271 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 1: are going to box for love, and you know, Latla, 272 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: I basically dazed over it because everybody knows on this 273 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: podcast that whenever there's like some sort of sporting events, 274 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, fad, it tells me nothing about you. I 275 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: did like how they had h they had to tell 276 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: her like profess their love to her in the beginning. 277 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: That's cut. Yeah, So the real takeaway from this date 278 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: is Rachel shows up with her guys and she sits 279 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: next to Gabby as if like they're kind of like 280 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: sitting on throws, like they're gonna be the judges, right, 281 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: and the guys are going to be the audience. But 282 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: Rachel gets super duper upset that none of the guys 283 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: are coming up to her as she sits with Gabby, 284 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: and I'm like, girl, I love you, but this is 285 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: not the environment which you guys think it's natural to 286 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: come right. So I will say, Okay, So again, Ryan 287 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: does not watch. He watched this episode. He turned to 288 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 1: me and he said, Okay, do you think Rachel's being 289 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 1: too sensitivesiatic, and I did say I I hate to 290 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: like say anything negative because it is such a pressure 291 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: cooker exactly what's going on, So you see what you're 292 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna say, And then I just want the audience to 293 00:16:44,760 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: know that we like have we're going to defend her 294 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 1: in a second. For sure, I like, I don't I 295 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: hesitate to say this kind of stuff, but I do 296 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 1: feel like she was being overly sensitive, especially after her 297 00:16:57,280 --> 00:17:04,160 Speaker 1: date with Tino. Exactly again, girl think Tino, don't even 298 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 1: worry about these buffoons. And then I'm thinking, Okay, this 299 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: is ridiculous. But I know that if I were in 300 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: the situation, I'd probably be reacting the way that she's reacting. 301 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: And she definitely is going through this like a kind 302 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: of like a pity me thing, and it's like what 303 00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: we all do. I'm not, you know, bashing on her 304 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: for it when you get like rejected or you have 305 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: a sad moment, and then you're also like in another 306 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 1: moment where you're like, wait a second, this is going 307 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: that I thought, like all those things pile up on 308 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: your head total like wait a second, nobody wants me, 309 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: and she's probably not gotten any sleep, and they just 310 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 1: traveled like all of these things. There are so many 311 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: things happening. It is a pressure cooker of stress, So 312 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,000 Speaker 1: I get it. But what I want to say is 313 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: I wanted to reach through the television and be like, 314 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: remember Tina and remember Zack from last week. All you 315 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: need eat in this world right now for you, Rachel 316 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: is Zach and Tino, and to side between the two 317 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:07,359 Speaker 1: of them exactly, and and then you know, a couple 318 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: other guys really kind of uh yes, I will say 319 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: I thought it was a missed opportunity for those guys 320 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: to not have sought her out, because there are every 321 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,680 Speaker 1: single season there's an episode like that where one guy, 322 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,199 Speaker 1: especially lately, like I remember it vividly with Michelle. It 323 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: seems like a pattern that like now they're trying to create, 324 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: is like the why don't sign moment? Right like come on, Like, 325 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: But I do think it was a missed opportunity by 326 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: the guys, and I think they realized that when they 327 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: saw her. I know, I know, let's see then we 328 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: have Okay a Gabby goes on like that one on 329 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: one small day with I love. The fact of the 330 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 1: cruise ship gives them a place for all these little 331 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,159 Speaker 1: one on ones in one spot. This is probably like 332 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: the easiest for like the scouting team. But I was 333 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: disappointed that at one date in France, you guys go 334 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: to Paris and one day in there, and then the 335 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:08,080 Speaker 1: rest is on a docked cruise ship. I thought that too. 336 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,200 Speaker 1: But what I do wonder is I wonder if they're 337 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: traveling to the next location and they were at sea, 338 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Because I thought that too. 339 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: I was like, they're freaking in Paris, why are they 340 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: sitting on the cruise ship? But I bet they're at sea. 341 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: Going to another location probably makes everything so much easier. 342 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: They don't have to go to airports. What did they 343 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: pretend like, you guys, what did they pretend that you 344 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: guys were? Um, we were supposed to be like a 345 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 1: dance squad when we traveled and people asked us and 346 00:19:39,119 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: people were like, oh my gosh, like so many cute girls, 347 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: like what are you guys doing? And then we're supposed 348 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: to be like we're a dance team. So going back 349 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:52,920 Speaker 1: to my season, we didn't travel. Um, they didn't do that. 350 00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 1: Back then. We went to I went to Hawaii with 351 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: Alex but just me. Yeah, it was like we each 352 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: traveled individually. Alright, So Gabby and Spencer their date. Oh yeah, 353 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: they talk about being um military background, which is really nice, 354 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: but we don't get like a whole time, Like it's 355 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: not the really most memorable moment. No, I don't. I 356 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: don't see Spencer. Spencer is like, maybe he'll We're already 357 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: down to five guys. It's crazy guys each So I mean, 358 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: like Spencer even gonna make it through to next week. 359 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 1: I don't know, probably not. Okay, So then we um 360 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:33,199 Speaker 1: gotta go to Rachel's group date, which happens after she 361 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:41,119 Speaker 1: talks to the menout being all upset. This is juicy. 362 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: This was the weirdest thing ever. I say, this is juicy. 363 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: That's not the right word, is of course, Okay, cringe 364 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: e is the word then for this. When I was thinking, 365 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,679 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I said juicy, thinking that we were going 366 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: to talk about the whole um rambo thing. But no, 367 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: we're not there yet. That was the That was like 368 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: the cocktail party dating, not to the group date. The 369 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 1: group date is when she brings the guys into this 370 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: room with romance experts in Paris. Oh so we did 371 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: have that, Okay. So they went to some like castle. 372 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: They had romance experts. Okay, it wasn't the only they were. 373 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: They were still okay, okay, so we got a little 374 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: some then. But you know, anyway that when they opened 375 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: with those two kissing, I was, oh my god, that 376 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: was the grosses kissing I've seen. There was like eighties 377 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 1: movie kissing. If you guys go back and watch nineteen 378 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 1: eighties movie kissing. It was like that, and it's gross. 379 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 1: So no, I literally that it started with that, those 380 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,440 Speaker 1: two kissing like the experts, and I was like, these 381 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: people are not actively I'm not taking any advice from 382 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: this from a girl who ate crystals his face on 383 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 1: a balcony ones, but you know, ne forget about that. 384 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: And then they proceeded to have all the guys like 385 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:00,719 Speaker 1: there were a bunch of like, oh they were kissing them. 386 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh my god, French kissing their hands. I wanted to die. Disgusting. 387 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: It made the armpit smelling like actually fine, like arbage smelling. Sure, 388 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 1: making out with your hand in front of everybody so cringing. 389 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: Why were you guys so bad at flirting? Oh yeah, 390 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,720 Speaker 1: what was that? Well, I mean I think it's given Okay, 391 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: she said, Well, first she was wrong. The expert quote 392 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: quote said that flirting is with your body language, not 393 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,560 Speaker 1: with words. That is absolutely not true. That's called body language. 394 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 1: You're not, You're so right. Body language. Flirting is with 395 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: your voice, the conversation featuring the bang. Like, yes, I 396 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: guess there could be like flirting if you're like grabbing 397 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 1: someone's ass or flortageous body language. But when we think 398 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: of flirting, we think of totally if your first meeting someone, yeah, yeah, 399 00:22:53,840 --> 00:23:00,399 Speaker 1: that was a married couple, and I'd be like, no, 400 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: I thought that date overall was I kept saying, I 401 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,200 Speaker 1: would have been mortified to be on this date. I'm 402 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: like mortified when thousand percent all of it um, but 403 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,360 Speaker 1: I do want to There's like one moment that there 404 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 1: was okay, So back to the flirting in the body language. 405 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: I was thinking, like why is this so awkward? And 406 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, I guess because like they have to go 407 00:23:25,680 --> 00:23:28,920 Speaker 1: up and like with their body in front of all 408 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,199 Speaker 1: this all the people like be I don't know that 409 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: was she didn't seem into it, like she truly seems 410 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: turned off, Like she seemed like she was getting the 411 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: X by how can you not? I know, She's like, 412 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: oh god, I don't like I mean person, yeah, like 413 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 1: we were getting the ex watching it if you're there 414 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 1: live in person all huge turn off and it actually 415 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: worked against their relationships. Like Zach was on this date 416 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,280 Speaker 1: and they have a really strong like she was even 417 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: I know, I was alarmed for that. In my head, 418 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 1: he's runner up. Yeah, I did not like to see 419 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,160 Speaker 1: if Now, if this had date happened and she got emotional, 420 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,560 Speaker 1: then I'd be like, you know what, you should get 421 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: emotional because you like none of them? Right, But but 422 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: but I will back let's back up though, because Tyler 423 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: really stepped up. I like stealing this illusion from one 424 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: of the Bachelor Instagram accounts, but like, is he not 425 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: somebody from a Disney Channel original movie? He totally he 426 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: looks like a little Disney star. He does. But I 427 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: like him and I love that he is all in 428 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 1: for Rachel and it seems like he's ready, like when 429 00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: you over with the words segment when he had to 430 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,400 Speaker 1: declare like love but not even that. It was before 431 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: that when he was and this might not have been 432 00:24:54,119 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: to Rachel, but when he was um telling everyone that 433 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,359 Speaker 1: he wanted to be with Rachel, like Rachel was his 434 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:08,160 Speaker 1: chosen one not Gabby like that. I think he just 435 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: he knows what he wants and I think that's attractive. 436 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 1: So she chooses him for the one on one day. 437 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: He talks about a past relationship where he bought a 438 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: house for them and the girl was like, I can't 439 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: be with you anymore. And he says that the unconditional 440 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: love that he felt then when they were together was 441 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: the best feeling and he wants to give that to 442 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,919 Speaker 1: the right person. Yeah, And it's just like it was 443 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,159 Speaker 1: like all very sweet and he did zoom to the 444 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: top of the list for me. He is one of 445 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,800 Speaker 1: the more memorable guys for Rachel. And then they kiss 446 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,760 Speaker 1: and it seems like she's like into it. It does 447 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: that they have a great connection in chemistry, so I 448 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: really liked them together. Uh. And then Jesse and Logan 449 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 1: are talking and then this is when the whole Logan 450 00:25:51,240 --> 00:26:00,480 Speaker 1: drama comes in and I'm like, Logan, now, I'm sorry, 451 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: but it's like, you're not a front runner in either 452 00:26:04,160 --> 00:26:07,920 Speaker 1: of these in the unit of these groups. Yeah, and 453 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:11,199 Speaker 1: it is just like messing with for no reason. Well, 454 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, they're trying to throw in drama. They're trying 455 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: to throw it in you know that he mentioned it, 456 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: and the producers like, build that up. Wait a second, 457 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 1: feelings Gabby And it's like, well, how do you feel? 458 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: And Gabby walks into your room, right, yeah, you got 459 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:31,000 Speaker 1: to explore this. Let's put those little seeds. I think that, Um, 460 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't think that Logan will last that long. I 461 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: don't think he'll be the end guy. Yeah. Um, I 462 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,120 Speaker 1: do give him credit for being honest with himself. If 463 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: he truly is feeling that he likes Gabby more than Rachel, 464 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: I think that he should explore that and not give Rachel, um, 465 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,840 Speaker 1: you know, lead her leader on exactly. Um. So, I 466 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 1: don't know, we'll see how that all transpires. But of 467 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: course that was going to happen. You knew this was 468 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: going to happen. It gave the audience such major anxiety 469 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,639 Speaker 1: because here she is crying over these guys who aren't 470 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: like pulling her aside during boxing, and little does she 471 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: know that one of the guys is considering going to 472 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: the Gabby side exactly, like, come on, let's add to 473 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: the pile now, and then well, well let's let's wait 474 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 1: until the end. Overall, though, I am more interested in 475 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: Gabby story in Rachel's storyline than gabby story. Do you what? Um, 476 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I guess because the connections that I'm 477 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: feeling between her and Tino and Zach and last week, 478 00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 1: I just feel it. I just feeling this more and 479 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,720 Speaker 1: I don't feel like this grand connection with Gabby. I 480 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: do say that Jason, I'm now interested in Jason. I 481 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,880 Speaker 1: think that it fluctuates for me. Really. Yeah, Like each 482 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,640 Speaker 1: episode it's different or even different parts of the episode. 483 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: That's what keeps you interested. And that's why I think 484 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the season is nice, because there's it's constantly interesting. You're right, 485 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: and and that's why that's why they did what they 486 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: did to get people talking. Yeah, you know, and that's 487 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 1: okay because the show has been on for how long 488 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: and we need to keep people interested, right yep. Um. 489 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: So now Logan in the cocktail party, he's thinking it's 490 00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: time to come forward with the honest truth and we're like, 491 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: oh god, not now, right, not now. But I actually 492 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: he ends up accepting Rachel's rose, and I know it's 493 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: going to backfire for him, but honestly, in the moment, 494 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,919 Speaker 1: I was like, thank you, dude, Yeah, thank you, because 495 00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:41,000 Speaker 1: she couldn't handle it. Right now. You're right. Actually, I 496 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 1: haven't thought about it like that. I thought, I mean, 497 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: he's in a he's in a hard place because he 498 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: does not have the opportunity or he did not have 499 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 1: the opportunity to say anything because they canceled because there 500 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: which we will get too sorry about going out of order. Yes, 501 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: so I I do think he didn't have the opportunity 502 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: or it would have been a big like it would 503 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: have blown up, you know, and it would have taken 504 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: time away from everybody, blah blah blah. But um, the 505 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: fact that he's there for Gabby when he's in Rachel's 506 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: pool is a little it makes me feel a little icky, 507 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 1: I know. And you know that now that she's down 508 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: to five, she's like I could have given time to 509 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: was that was my thought. That was my thought, is 510 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: that why did you do that? Because then he could 511 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: have stick stuck around that That is But what we 512 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: really need to think about and what I want the 513 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 1: girls to have a reality check about. It's just like 514 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: you probably weren't going to take Logan or George, you know, 515 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: like those were your bottom too. That's what I hope, Yeah, 516 00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: that's what I hope. It wasn't going to be right. 517 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: But then Rachel even acknowledges this. She goes, even if 518 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm getting rejected by guys that I don't really see 519 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: a future in, it's still getting rejected and that always hurts. 520 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:09,080 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a big bruise to your ego. So 521 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: it's not and it's sometimes and I think I've said 522 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: this on the podcast in the past couple of weeks, 523 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,959 Speaker 1: but sometimes it hurts even more to be rejected by 524 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,000 Speaker 1: somebody that you're not really into, because you're like, not 525 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: even you want me. You're right, I agree. Okay, so 526 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: let's take a quick break because I really want to 527 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: dive into this crazy man Hayden and the cocktail party, 528 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: and we're back. Hayden approaches. I have to side Hayden, 529 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 1: who already sucks approaches um Rachel with like the moment 530 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: that he really thinks he's going to open up, and 531 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:02,479 Speaker 1: that is the fact that his dog has cancer. And now, 532 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 1: what I don't like about this whole scene is that 533 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: it's like belittling the relationship that people have with their 534 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: dogs and that their dogs aren't a part of the 535 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 1: fair like it makes it seem like dogs shouldn't be 536 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:15,720 Speaker 1: regarded as part of the family. Yeah, and that like 537 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: we shouldn't be like super sad for this guy that 538 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: like his loyal companion, his cancer, Like I feel a 539 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:24,560 Speaker 1: lot for him, and it's totally belittled here. Like even 540 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: when he leaves, it's like, yeah, I'm ready to go 541 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: see him again. I want to find unconditional love. Like 542 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, I know it's supposed to be silly, but 543 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,520 Speaker 1: like also let's know what you know what I mean 544 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: totally our dogs are part of our family. I would 545 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,280 Speaker 1: be heart broken if I were him, So lots of 546 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 1: love his way, and I hope his dog is okay, 547 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: but but but but but but at the same time 548 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: time it is all ridiculous. He you know, comes with 549 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 1: the photo album of his dog and tells what he's 550 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: going through, and it's starts to get a little bit 551 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: m when he says just letting me know, like my 552 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,280 Speaker 1: dog is sick at home and I'm here for you. 553 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,160 Speaker 1: That's when you're like, Okay, well you're not really what 554 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 1: did you just say about me? Yeah, it's just it's 555 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 1: starting to feel And then he takes out the dog's 556 00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 1: radiation stuffy and that makes me feel really awkward because 557 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: like my dog. Also my dog. I had one dog 558 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 1: who had cancer and she had like her little thingies 559 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,479 Speaker 1: and m he just don't bring it on you just 560 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,040 Speaker 1: don't bring it on the date and the fact that 561 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: I know it's the fact that you put it in 562 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: the suitcase. He was like, I'm going to put this 563 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,280 Speaker 1: in my suitcase and show one of the bachelorettes this 564 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: and tell them the story. That is so cringe e, 565 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: so cringe e. And what I was thinking also is 566 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: wait a second. You took the dog's toy away. That's 567 00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,360 Speaker 1: like a comfortable dog stop it. And the dog is 568 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: that is supposedly going to be passing away soon, and 569 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: you took away a comfort for the dog. Stop that's 570 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: so that's cruel. See then he's not there. This is 571 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: all a farce. I mean, we know it's we know 572 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 1: it's all silly, like it's it's silly, and it's not silly. 573 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: You know. I keep saying I hate him, and yet 574 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: I understand dogs sadness, the sadness, but don't use that 575 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: he's using. Okay, thank you for saying that. That's exactly 576 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,800 Speaker 1: what it is. He's using his dog sickness as like 577 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: some poor pity me types I felt that way. Um, 578 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: I I feel sorry for the loss that he will 579 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: be experiencing, but I don't think it's appropriate to bring 580 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: it in at this point in the relationship. Now I 581 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,400 Speaker 1: don't know, No, absolutely not. That was just my thought. 582 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: It's just like he's like, I don't have a sad 583 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 1: story about my family. I'm gonna use my dog sickness 584 00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,080 Speaker 1: as my pity story. And then people are gonna feel 585 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,760 Speaker 1: for me. Then she's gonna feel for me anyway. And 586 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,240 Speaker 1: then we get interrupted by Tino, which I'm sure she's like, 587 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:08,400 Speaker 1: thank the Lord, all nutty, and and now hating goes. 588 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,320 Speaker 1: I can't believe how rude it was that she that 589 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,520 Speaker 1: she accepted Tino um when I was in the middle 590 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,960 Speaker 1: of such a conversation, Like, if it were me, I 591 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 1: would have been like, excuse me, I need a few minutes. 592 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I'm sorry. But no, I did not 593 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,719 Speaker 1: think she was disrespectful. No, she wasn't. I didn't think 594 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,360 Speaker 1: so at all. I didn't think Tina was disrespectful in 595 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: that situation. I think he just said they probably were 596 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 1: in there for a while. Tina was like, I want 597 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 1: to talk to her, and asked very nicely if he 598 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: could interrupt, and then Rachel said are you okay with that? 599 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: She didn't say okay, well we're done here, you know, 600 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:44,680 Speaker 1: she said are you okay with that? He could have 601 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,480 Speaker 1: said can we have a couple more minutes or something, 602 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 1: and then he held it against her later, I know, no, 603 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 1: it was not cool. And then um, Meatball comes in 604 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: and I'm liking Meatball in this moment. There's a different 605 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: is roll. Everybody has a purpose, guys. So he comes 606 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: in and he tells her exactly what he's been saying 607 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,720 Speaker 1: that we were mentioning earlier in the show, and she's 608 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: fired up. She goes and pulls him aside, and she's like, 609 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 1: you know what I'm going to talk to you about? 610 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: And I love this about it and she's like, what 611 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:19,520 Speaker 1: am I going to talk to you about? And he's 612 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: like Rambo And then she's like, are you kidding me 613 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 1: right now? And he's like, I would have thought that 614 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,240 Speaker 1: you were pulling me aside to continue the Rambo conversation, 615 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: apologize for my time away, and then she repeats all 616 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 1: the things that he said. Um, and she says, can 617 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 1: I walk you out? And then he gets walked out well, 618 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: and he denied everything that. He was like, what are 619 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: you talking about? I never said that. I'm like, um, 620 00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: play the tape. It's untape, dude. Wow. You are like 621 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,719 Speaker 1: really don't know how to play this game. Like you 622 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: think you're knowing how to play this game. You're really 623 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:58,800 Speaker 1: bad at it. You are on a television show. Everything 624 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: almost everything is recorded, so you don't think that that 625 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: was recorded. I don't understand. I I literally said to Ryan, 626 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: you know when when I knew we were going to 627 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,880 Speaker 1: do this, I didn't know if this was the type 628 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 1: of episode where you would bring someone from the show on, 629 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: And I was like, I wonder if we're going to 630 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 1: have to talk to Hayden. Oh god, we're not there yet. 631 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 1: I would I would be really cold. I was like, 632 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,959 Speaker 1: I don't know if I can talk to him anyway. Yeah, 633 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 1: I I just he's like just bad vibes, guys, bad 634 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: bad vibes. I am not okay with someone who says 635 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:38,439 Speaker 1: something really rude and disrespectful like that and doesn't own 636 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 1: up to it. No. He sounds like the kind of 637 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:43,400 Speaker 1: guy that like flirts with girls, thinks that he's entitled 638 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,359 Speaker 1: to their affection, then goes and talks about them behind 639 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 1: their back exactly. Yes, he's gross not a fan. Okay. Uh. 640 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: Then we basically to the real road ceremony, which we've 641 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,520 Speaker 1: touched on already. Um. Gabby gives her first rose to Nate. 642 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Nate really seems like the front runner right now with 643 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,239 Speaker 1: him with her with her. Yeah, Rachel to even really 644 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 1: like even he's another person in the group that like 645 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 1: we need to see more of because he's like, Okay, 646 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: there's there's Tino, then there's Zack, and then there's I 647 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,879 Speaker 1: really liked team. I really like to even get Rachel. Um. 648 00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,399 Speaker 1: Then Gabby gives a rose to Eric, which we could 649 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,359 Speaker 1: talk about that, but we don't have enough time right now. 650 00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,440 Speaker 1: I think that I like Eric, but listen, she's like 651 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: remember last week and she's like, um, if only I 652 00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: could be with a man like Eric, And I was like, girl, yeah, 653 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: we are you serious? Many times have I said girl 654 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:45,040 Speaker 1: in this podcast? I'm like, no, no, no, you you 655 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,399 Speaker 1: should be like Eric needs you know, like, let's see 656 00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:53,520 Speaker 1: if this guy deserves me not. Yes, I agree. Rachel 657 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 1: gives a rose to meet Ball. I love it. I 658 00:37:56,920 --> 00:38:01,799 Speaker 1: love to see it. There's no love here, but you know, 659 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: he's fun to talk to. Yeah, Gabby gives her rose 660 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,640 Speaker 1: to Johnny, which we've seen nothing from Johnny, nothing, nothing, 661 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 1: He's been a mute. You know what though, is that 662 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 1: indicative of the fact that he's going to Yes, because 663 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:20,479 Speaker 1: I feel like in my during my season, we didn't 664 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: see Ryan for a while either. All right, Yeah, I 665 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: think that happens often. Usually one Rachel gives her roses 666 00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:28,839 Speaker 1: Zack and a surprise there. Gabby gives her a rose 667 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 1: to Michael. Uh, Michael, right, Yes, he's kind of someone 668 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 1: that I don't know that well, I don't know. Rachel 669 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: gives her rose to Ethan, who I also really don't know. Yeah, 670 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 1: he's the guy who crawled on the cringeing date. Okay 671 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:47,120 Speaker 1: remember that? Yeah, all then we go to the final roses. 672 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:49,960 Speaker 1: Gabby gives her rose to Mario. Interesting how Mario was 673 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 1: a first impression rose, then somebody the two of them 674 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: showed interested and now we're just not seeing anything and 675 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,279 Speaker 1: he got the last rose last week. Yeah, so on 676 00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: the cost. And then Rachel gives her last rose to 677 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: the controversial Logan. Logan says yes, and Rachel says, with intention, 678 00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm so sorry we didn't have time to speak. We'll 679 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,239 Speaker 1: be able to speak this week. Yes, I know that's 680 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: a little heartbreaking. It's a little heartbreak. That was heartbreaking. 681 00:39:13,480 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: The guys that go home, Gabby sends Quincy and kirkhomb 682 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 1: and Rachel sends Jordan's home, and next up they are 683 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:25,840 Speaker 1: going to Belgium? Yes, I think? Is it Belgium? Um? Anyway, 684 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: any final things to say that you don't think we covered? 685 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:34,040 Speaker 1: I think we covered all of it. I mean, I 686 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:39,280 Speaker 1: I am always a fan. I watched every single season. 687 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: I've watched every single episode of every single spinoff, blah 688 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: blah blah. But this this season, I don't know. I'm 689 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:50,040 Speaker 1: I'm going to continue to watch. I just I just 690 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: hope that because they have defined the groups now that 691 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: it won't be as messy. Well, we know it's gonna 692 00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 1: be a messy next week. Well true, you're right, So 693 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,520 Speaker 1: we gotta get Pastgan. That's okay, And that's okay, that's 694 00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,480 Speaker 1: kind of that was expected messiness. Do you know I 695 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: had to switch to some guy, had we wouldn't have 696 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,399 Speaker 1: a you know, or some kind of confusion you know 697 00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 1: about who he wanted to be with. Do you foresee 698 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: each of girls bringing home four guys? Because I don't 699 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: that's eight hometowns, and I don't think they're enjoy a hometown, 700 00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:22,759 Speaker 1: especially because they're with five right now. They're not gonna 701 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: They're not going to get there, definitely not right now. 702 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:26,919 Speaker 1: I say that each girl brings their final to home, 703 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: I bet you're right, or they bring the family out 704 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: to Europe or whatever. Well, and oh so they wait, 705 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,320 Speaker 1: how are we going to do this? Maybe both families 706 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: come at the same time, like the girls family and 707 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 1: the guys family. They're all going to have like a 708 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,879 Speaker 1: pow wow. Do they do they stay on the cruise ship. 709 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think they say the cruise ship 710 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: for like two weeks of filming times that's but not 711 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 1: the whole time, like they end up somewhere at the end. 712 00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: The finale is not going to be like when Jack 713 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,880 Speaker 1: and Rose doing Now, holy sh it, don't tease me 714 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: with a good time, because that would be my ultimate 715 00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: Bachelor proposed. Don't want that. I would be extremely jealous, 716 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,440 Speaker 1: extremely and be like, Jared, why didn't you do that? 717 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:14,919 Speaker 1: And then Leonardo DiCaprio shows up to find to hand 718 00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: out the final rose. This is your final rose. Amazing, amazing. 719 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's go through some quick Bachelor headlines. Uh. 720 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 1: First up, Tyler Cameron sheds light on why he clashes 721 00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:33,319 Speaker 1: with Matt James girlfriend Rachel who knew this? I mean 722 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,440 Speaker 1: nobody until now I know. So I don't know why 723 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: he's addressing it shedding light. I don't either. So what 724 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: watch What Happens Live? He was on Watch What Happens Live? Um, well, 725 00:41:45,480 --> 00:41:47,399 Speaker 1: definitely been on Watch what happens Like, Oh yeah, look 726 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 1: at that, he says. Oh yeah, he said, watch what 727 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: Happens Live. Um, that there was a love hate relationship. 728 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: And now he's clarifying, Okay, what this means. He says, 729 00:41:55,719 --> 00:41:58,600 Speaker 1: I think people I think that Matt and I aren't 730 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,600 Speaker 1: friends because we're not in each other's everyday lives the 731 00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: way we used to be. Um, that's true, but like 732 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: you know, you grow up and you're getting relationships. The 733 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: two of them used to hang out as single bros. 734 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,120 Speaker 1: He says, I think it's part of growing up and 735 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: entering a relationship. So exactly what I said. Um, And 736 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: then he said, we all have those friends that you 737 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 1: grow up, they start dating somebody, they get married, they 738 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,879 Speaker 1: do your thing and you see him when you see him. Yeah, 739 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,879 Speaker 1: it's called again growing up. Being an adult. Um. And 740 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 1: then as far as the Rachel thing, he says, what 741 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:34,000 Speaker 1: does he say that? He says, I definitely I was 742 00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,919 Speaker 1: going through my own ship. We just have our own 743 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,920 Speaker 1: ways of clashing. I don't like listening to people sometimes. 744 00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: And she's strong and has a really good musically. This 745 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,759 Speaker 1: isn't yeah. I thought this was like a joke, like, 746 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we kind of actually do um. But you 747 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: know what, sometimes you just don't have like the greatest 748 00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: relationship with your friends significant others. That sucks. It does 749 00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,399 Speaker 1: for for everyone involved because then the friends can't hang 750 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:08,040 Speaker 1: out and I mean hopefully they can be adults and 751 00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: and be civil and hang out when they are all 752 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:15,960 Speaker 1: together as a group. And it doesn't affect Tyler and 753 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 1: Maths relationship that much. But I also don't want it 754 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,200 Speaker 1: to affect Matt and Rachel's relationship. I don't think it 755 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: will affect Matt Racil's relationship. They've gone through it all, 756 00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:28,400 Speaker 1: they've survived it all. Let's just read this quote verbatim 757 00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:30,840 Speaker 1: because it is quite juicy. I don't like listening to 758 00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,799 Speaker 1: people sometimes, um, Tyler says. And she's strong and she 759 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: has really good opinions on a lot of things, and 760 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't want to hear it um. He also 761 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: says that he knows that Rachel always means well and 762 00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,080 Speaker 1: is a really good person who's a really good match 763 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:51,000 Speaker 1: for Matt. There's tension and I want to know more. 764 00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: Let's see. Oh, Katie Thurston joins, Riah. I'm like, I 765 00:43:59,520 --> 00:44:03,000 Speaker 1: don't even how to pronounced Ria. Riah. It's the dating 766 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: app for like celebrities and influencers and like Hollywood creatives. 767 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: She said, I can't even make a friend. She said, 768 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: have you guys heard of the dating app Riah? It's 769 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 1: supposed to be like an elite dating app that you 770 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,239 Speaker 1: have to be like applied to get on and get 771 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: approved of. Blah blah blah. She goes, I was like, 772 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 1: I'll ply now and then six and from six months 773 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,279 Speaker 1: from now, I started dating. Well, they approved me right 774 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:31,239 Speaker 1: away right away. I wasn't ready to be approved, but 775 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: that's fine. And then she goes, but then I matched 776 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: with someone and we're talking and then I get unmatched. 777 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,279 Speaker 1: That means she goes just for friends. What does that mean? 778 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: That means she got How do you got unmatched? Does 779 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: that mean they can like? That's funny? Okay, So she 780 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,960 Speaker 1: ended up deciding to use the app for finding friends instead, 781 00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: So even though she was talking to someone, she ended 782 00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,680 Speaker 1: up being like, oh, hey, we matched, but guess what, 783 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,480 Speaker 1: I'm just here friends? Oh got it? Okay, But now 784 00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 1: she says, it's is having a hard time finding friends 785 00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:06,440 Speaker 1: on the app. Yeah, no, don't. You don't have to go, Katie. 786 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,359 Speaker 1: I think that you don't have to rush. I don't 787 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: think you no rush. But also I feel like you 788 00:45:11,680 --> 00:45:13,239 Speaker 1: have good friends. I don't know if you have to 789 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,160 Speaker 1: go on a dating app for friends for difference, I 790 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: don't know. And she's thirty one. I think there's there's 791 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: no rush. She's fine. She's hopefully she's fine, do you 792 00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Um, hopefully she can make a 793 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:28,239 Speaker 1: friend in real life and not just on Riya Riya 794 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: whatever it's called. Alright. Final headline Rachel Lindsay defends keeping 795 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,879 Speaker 1: Brian's her marriage with Brian private post Bachelorette. So she's 796 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: on Instagram and she's always like people are always asking 797 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,200 Speaker 1: her where's Brian. And so she got on Instagram and 798 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,879 Speaker 1: she said that, like they're just trying to keep their 799 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 1: relationship private. Um. Dim the spotlight a little bit on that. 800 00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 1: She said that she talks about when they're going to 801 00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 1: have babies or the timeline on that on her blog 802 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:04,880 Speaker 1: honestly rage. But now she wants to talk about the question, 803 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: whereas Brian's she gets it all the time, and she says, 804 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 1: let me be frank, Brian is none of your business. 805 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 1: I am joking, well half joking. However, she understands that 806 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:19,080 Speaker 1: there's a curiosity between, you know, the relationships, since it 807 00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,799 Speaker 1: did start on reality TV. She goes, in reality television, 808 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: in that world, it's designed for your relationship to fail. 809 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,880 Speaker 1: We survived and we came out on top. So quite naturally, 810 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: the audience wants to know what we're doing, if we're okay, 811 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,359 Speaker 1: and what the what's next for our future. They want 812 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: the love story to still play out um for their 813 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 1: public perception. But our contractual public story ended on August seven, 814 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: seven team. At that point we decided we want to 815 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: We wanted to control the future of our relationship. Up 816 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:58,000 Speaker 1: until that point, the confines of our relationship were determined 817 00:46:58,080 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 1: for us. Now we're free and we do We decided 818 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,520 Speaker 1: to pull away from the public eye to build a strong, 819 00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 1: solid foundation, and we successfully did that. So it is 820 00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:09,440 Speaker 1: interesting to me that people want to define the success 821 00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 1: and happiness of our relationship by the number of social 822 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: media post comments, likes, and stories that we post. I mean, 823 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,560 Speaker 1: I will say Ryan and I from kind of the 824 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,439 Speaker 1: get go where we didn't have social media at least 825 00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:31,279 Speaker 1: clarify that. So there wasn't the um the pressure to 826 00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:34,800 Speaker 1: post anything about your relationship. I know that this happened 827 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,319 Speaker 1: to I feel like this happened to Caitlin a little 828 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:40,040 Speaker 1: bit ago, where she was kind of defending why she 829 00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: hasn't posted anything with Jason lately or whenever it was. 830 00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,160 Speaker 1: You know, it comes up and people because people just 831 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,919 Speaker 1: want to know. People are curious, Like she said, um, 832 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: and she did say social media is not a reflection 833 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:54,759 Speaker 1: of reality. I agree with that. I don't post that much, 834 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,880 Speaker 1: you know I do, but I but I don't configurate 835 00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: it not having to like prove to everyone that you're happy. Agreed. Agreed. 836 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:06,600 Speaker 1: I I feel like there's a little bit of defensives 837 00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: in there, so I hope that they're not in a 838 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 1: bad place. I think they're fine. I think Rachel just 839 00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:14,600 Speaker 1: doesn't want to I don't think she wants to be 840 00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 1: part of the franchise at all anymore. And I think 841 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: that she's probably saying, like in my relationship was founded 842 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: on the franchise, so therefore I don't even want to 843 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:30,399 Speaker 1: show off anything that happened from it makes right. Alright, Well, 844 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,840 Speaker 1: it is time for us to wrap. Trista, this is 845 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,279 Speaker 1: so much fun doing like I love doing it with 846 00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you for having me. Thank you 847 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: for you know, coming on here and doing our spin 848 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,520 Speaker 1: off show, which is almost famous o G s. It's 849 00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:48,000 Speaker 1: Trista and Bob Guinney and they talk about old seasons 850 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,359 Speaker 1: of The Bachelor atte and they and Bachelor and they 851 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 1: have um o G guests that maybe you've forgotten about, 852 00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:55,200 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna be like, oh my god, I 853 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,799 Speaker 1: love them so good. Here from it's really fun. We 854 00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,400 Speaker 1: have a good time, So make sure that you guys 855 00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: check that out. If you are longtime viewers of the franchise, 856 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 1: we love you so much and we'll talk to you 857 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,600 Speaker 1: later this week. Until then, I've been Ashley, I've interested 858 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: by follow the Bennon Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 859 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.