1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: with i R Radio. Hello everyone, welcome to the Almost 3 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: Famous Podcast. It's Ashley and Again. Today I am joined 4 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: by my husband Jared, which you guys might be tired 5 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: of us. And if you're like many people out there, 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,159 Speaker 1: you hear that it's the two of us again, you're like, 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm sick of you. I'm turning this podcast off. It's 8 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,320 Speaker 1: not my fault. We just found out that Ben couldn't 9 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: be on the episode. So like you're like, hey, can 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: you feel in Like, yeah, sure, that's the one thing 11 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: Bachelor wants is more of us. That's the but's Bachelor 12 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Nation wants. Bachelor Nation wants more of us and not. 13 00:00:35,040 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: So we got a lot of backlash, or we didn't 14 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: really get a lot of backlash, but a lot of 15 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: you out there did not want to see a married 16 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: couple on the beach. Yeah, it was pretty evident, which 17 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 1: makes me sad. It just makes me sad that I 18 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: think we both thought when we went down to Paradise 19 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: that we were just going to go down and we'd 20 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: be one of the you know, the former couples that 21 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: always go down and we're there for a lit while 22 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: we're not gonna get much screen time. It's just more 23 00:00:57,840 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: for us, and then we have the opportunity to kind 24 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: of hang out and on a date. But even when 25 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 1: we were still down there, I think you and I 26 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: both were both under the oppression that, like, well, they're 27 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: not gonna like we're not gonna get shown that much, 28 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: which is totally fine. This is more of like a 29 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: cool thing that we can look back on. And we 30 00:01:11,640 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: went on a date, and we're so grateful for Bachelor 31 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: and the producers and everybody being able to bring us 32 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 1: down there and take such a care of us. And 33 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, we're a success story, if you want to 34 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 1: phrase it that way. And it was it was so lovely, 35 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:26,600 Speaker 1: and I thought when we watched we were going to 36 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 1: watch it back. It was just going to be kind 37 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: of nothing but more for us in our family and 38 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 1: being able to watch it back and no one would 39 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: really care, which is totally fine by us. We'd get 40 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 1: some people say, oh my god, Jared Ashley again, and 41 00:01:36,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: then some other people say, oh, it's so nice to 42 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: see them again, and then that would be it. I 43 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: don't know, to get as much screen time as he didn't. 44 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: He didn't think that we were going to get as 45 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: much screen time, and I did because I could feel 46 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: that they were using certain storylines. I knew that they 47 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: wanted to do like the whole like are they going 48 00:01:50,560 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to utilize the boom boom room? And I knew my 49 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: farts were going to play a big role. And I 50 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: was really excited about our day, Like I knew our 51 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: day it would be very funny. We thought it was funny. 52 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 1: A lot of you guys thought we were boring as hell, 53 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: and that's fine. I don't I don't think anybody said 54 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: it is more people just didn't like that we were 55 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: feeler content, or they thought that we were feeler content. 56 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people are a little frustrated 57 00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: of how stretched out the show is right now, because 58 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: let's be honest, we're going into episode five tomorrow, right 59 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: So this is the third week there's been one road 60 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: ceremony and you guys um just previewing for you. You 61 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,680 Speaker 1: won't get another road ceremony until Monday. We leave on Monday. Okay, 62 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 1: everybody happy we're here for the whole summer. Would you 63 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 1: guys think we're Some people think that we are gonna 64 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: hang longer. We're not. And and furthermore, any I have 65 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a theory, Okay, go for I think, um, 66 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: this is the minority. Let me say that the majority 67 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of people who watched the show and support the show 68 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: and come to Audrey's to support us, You guys are 69 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 1: awesome and wonderful people, and I love you so much 70 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: because of because truthfully, like we said, without you, without 71 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: the people who support the show, who support us, there 72 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: is no Audreies. Uh. And you guys have done such 73 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:10,679 Speaker 1: wonders for us and made our lives better. You've made 74 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: Dawson's life better. You made Dawson's life to a certain degree. 75 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,519 Speaker 1: I guess, well, oh no, I guess that's a little 76 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: bit of a strata. Sorry. I was thinking like, if 77 00:03:20,480 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: it weren't for Bachelor fans, that maybe you and I 78 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 1: would have ever been on the show, and that we 79 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:27,360 Speaker 1: would have never had Dawson. But for the very loud 80 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: minority who continued to say, um, oh my god, I 81 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: don't want to see a married couple on here. Give 82 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: the date to people who actually need it and single people. 83 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: Just be honest with us and yourselves. You don't watch 84 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: the show for love, which is totally fine. You watch 85 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: it for drama. As long as you can admit that, 86 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: then it's fine. Because what makes me frustrated is that 87 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: people will say, oh, I watched the show for love, 88 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: but love doesn't end when people leave the beach. And 89 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure that you can relate to that if you're 90 00:03:56,400 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: watching the show and you've been in love and you've 91 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: had long term relationships. Love evolves, love changes, It just 92 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: doesn't stop. So when Ashley and I had the opportunity 93 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: to go back down and spend some quality time together 94 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 1: and really open up in ways that we haven't opened 95 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: up in a little while, probably since our honeymoon wedding, 96 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: because let's face it, we get into the mundane nous 97 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,239 Speaker 1: of day to day life and we don't talk about 98 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:19,599 Speaker 1: how we feel or what the other person means to me. 99 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: You know. Of course I tell Ashley every day how 100 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: much he's very good with words of affirmation, but I 101 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: just say, hey, listen, you're a great mom, you're a 102 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: great wife, and I love you and I appreciate it 103 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,039 Speaker 1: does well, thank you so much. And Ashley of course 104 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: says that to me and it means the world to me, 105 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: But we never really get into the depth of, hey, 106 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: this is how you make me feel, this is why 107 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: you make me feel that, this is why you're so 108 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 1: important to me. And we had the opportunity to do 109 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: that on the beach and share a moment and talk 110 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: about Dawson. Um. So for me watching back that date 111 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 1: meant a lot and it gave me a lot of happiness. 112 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 1: Um because I remember having that conversation with Ashley and 113 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: how great it felt just to be able to say 114 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: some of the things that frankly are tough to say 115 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: because they're awkward, and in that environment they're not awkward 116 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: because you're forced to talk about super strange how that 117 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: conversation over dinner the next town over at the spot 118 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: that you like going to. We would do it to 119 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: a certain extent, but you would never get to the 120 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: point of crying. No, of course, And we talked about 121 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:27,160 Speaker 1: Dawson and you know what parents we want to be, 122 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: and how much we look up to our parents and 123 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: how impactful they are. Those are the kind of conversations 124 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: that you and I would have on dates before we 125 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: were ever married, and even not to that depth. You know, 126 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: neither one of us would start crying. Well, there was 127 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: one time we actually went to a beach and we 128 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: did start crying about the same time. What was that 129 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: You don't remember that? Um, we were in what's the 130 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,160 Speaker 1: area that I used to like with the boats. Okay, 131 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: that's how figured it's in l A. Yeah, I don't 132 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 1: remember crying. You We totally cried. It was a very 133 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: similar moment, but it was like for years ago before Dawson. 134 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:03,400 Speaker 1: It was before we were married. So anyway, that's my 135 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: two cents on it. I have a little bit more 136 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: of two cents. What I want to say that the 137 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: fan reaction isn't going to take away like that moment 138 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: for us. We're still like so glad that we went 139 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: down there, and I think like right now we're a 140 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,719 Speaker 1: little disappointed. We're just sad, like it has a bad 141 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,080 Speaker 1: taste in our mouth, you know, just because like people 142 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: didn't enjoy it as much as we enjoyed it. And 143 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: I know that like you shouldn't let what like fan 144 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: reaction like affect your feelings towards those moments at all, 145 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: but I think like it's natural to do that. Well, 146 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,919 Speaker 1: I think it was a special day for us, and 147 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 1: that place is a special place for us, even through 148 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: all the difficult times and the hard memories. There's foundations 149 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: built on that beach that have led to our ultimate 150 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 1: marriage and parenthood. So of course, through all the good 151 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: and the bad, that places a special meaning to us. 152 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: So being down there is always gonna uh be meaningful. 153 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 1: And so when people react to it in such a 154 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 1: negative manner um, and it's like, I trust me. Even 155 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 1: watching the episode, I was like, holy crap, we are 156 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: getting a ton of airtime. According to Bachelor data, the 157 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: Instagram account, we did get the most amount of airtime 158 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: in that episode, which is crazy. But I'm not gonna 159 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: be apologetic about it. I mean, first of all, it's 160 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: not our decision. Secondly, you know, we like guys of 161 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: sixteen episodes, like sixteen episodes that they had to be creative, 162 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: they wanted to come up with something different. They tried 163 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: it with us, and apparently they're not gonna do it again. 164 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: The grand scheme of things. I mean, we're barely on 165 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: this season because we leave very soon, and when we 166 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: leave there's still episodes. Yeah, we're not even close to 167 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: halfway through yet. And let's be clear, we didn't steal 168 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: a date from anyone that was our date. They they're 169 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: the Bachelor producers, they're able to give as many date 170 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 1: cards and create as many date moments as they want. 171 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:01,680 Speaker 1: We didn't steal anyone states. And like we've said a 172 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: million times on on multiple podcasts, and like everybody says, 173 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 1: going on dates sometimes it certainly doesn't hinder your relationship, 174 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: but you can actually build more of a foundation on 175 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: the beach of paradise then going on a date where 176 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: they separate you and cars and then you do this 177 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: activity and then you talk and then you go back 178 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: and separate cars where you can just hang out on 179 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the beach together and really, you know, build a dates 180 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: aren't as critical and paradise as they would be on 181 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: the main show. And it's just like it's a show, 182 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 1: so of course there's going to be certain elements that 183 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 1: like let's give a date to Ashley and Jared. Okay, great, 184 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: and we're not going to say no to that. Do 185 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: out of your minds. We have had moments like this 186 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: of course in the past, and like like um Our 187 00:08:44,240 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: Engagement was one of them. We watched Our Engagement, we 188 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: were like so bummed out that it went the way 189 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: that we thought, like the way that it was on TV. 190 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: And I feel like for us, this will just be 191 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 1: like one of those moments. It's like we have a 192 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: little disappointment after watching it, and then a year from 193 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: now we'll be like, oh my god, we won't even 194 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 1: remember how it went over on TV. We'll just have 195 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: the actual memories. I think it's it's listening again. Don't 196 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: feel bad for us. We are so lucky. This is 197 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:16,959 Speaker 1: not This is us just talking about it because Ashley 198 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: asked me like four to minutes ago, hey can you 199 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: host a podcast? I need a coast And then it's like, okay, 200 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: let's talk about this because this we're literally living through 201 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: it right now. We just watched the episode last night 202 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: and we're fine. I don't want people to think that 203 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: we're like super upset. Well, we know we're weird, weird, 204 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:40,839 Speaker 1: I don't know. We have a beautiful son. People to 205 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: feel bad for us, Like people are going to listen 206 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,480 Speaker 1: to this and have like a whole bunch of feelings. 207 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: I feel like they're gonna be like, oh, so they 208 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: wanted us to like them so bad. It's like, well, yeah, 209 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: I think it's human nature. We want you guys to 210 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: like us. It's not so much that we want you 211 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: to like us. We just didn't want you to absolutely 212 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,199 Speaker 1: hate us being on the show. It makes us sad 213 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: and makes it I mean, think about if you went 214 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: to a party and then somebody was saying to your 215 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 1: saying to you because obviously we re comments like yeah, god, 216 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: we don't want you here. We just don't want you here. 217 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: Thank you for that comparison. That's exactly. It's like, well, okay, 218 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: that makes me sad, you know, so sorry, Yeah, of 219 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: course that stuff makes us sad when people just continuously 220 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 1: caption or comment under tags, like it's not like we're 221 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: searching for things, guys, Like, we're tagged in these things 222 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: so literally we get notifications if I just go on 223 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 1: my timeline, it's like these things are being said to us, 224 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: being like god, these get him away, nobody wants you here. 225 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, all right, well that's we're not that 226 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 1: they're taking up that much time. Guys, I promise if 227 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 1: that's but thank you for that comparison to the party. 228 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,720 Speaker 1: That's exactly how we feel. We felt really cool and 229 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:58,240 Speaker 1: really excited to get invited to this party, and we 230 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:00,599 Speaker 1: play into it. We're like, guys, we we're old and 231 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: nobody cares about us. It's not like we walked in thinking, 232 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: all right, guys, listen up, we have all the answers. 233 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 1: Talk to us. We know what to tell you. It 234 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: was more like we walked in, we were like, we're 235 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 1: not that cool, but we're just gonna kind of hang out. 236 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 1: We got invited. We're so excited. We needed this time. 237 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 1: And then it was just like get get out, and 238 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 1: you know what. The cast out and there was so awesome. 239 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: They're the best. Yeah, that's what's sad is that they 240 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: made us feel so welcome, made us feel so welcome. 241 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:28,199 Speaker 1: There's so like I remember Andrew, I'll never forget. Andrew 242 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: was sitting at the picnic table when we were talking, 243 00:11:30,440 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: and uh, he said that it was so nice. It's 244 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: so nice having you guys here because you guys are 245 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: so comforting, you know, because he's like, it's a stressful 246 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:40,960 Speaker 1: environment and you two are just here and you know, 247 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 1: and he said that we're comforting and I was like, damn, 248 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: that's so sweet. It's so sweet. So anyway, people are 249 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 1: probably just like, holy guys, you're just talking about yourself 250 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: even more. And we're hosting the podcast, so we can 251 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: talk about this for ten minutes and now we'll move on. 252 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: And I have to say, I can say one more thing, 253 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: name one more thing. Mhm um, it's sad. Well the 254 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: last thing that's sad. I'm sorry, so sad. That's sad. 255 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: You guys can fast forward through farting and appeeing and 256 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: all that stuff. And of course the moment was important 257 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: for us to have the conversation on the beach for us, 258 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,840 Speaker 1: and we'll remember the conversation forever and all that. But 259 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: it's sad to hear that you guys would fast forward 260 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: through that one because that was like a that was 261 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: a bachelor moment that I would think that anybody who 262 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: like really likes the show for love would love. I 263 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: would agree, And that's why I think, Um, listen, people 264 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: watch the show for all different reasons, for drama and 265 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 1: for love, and I totally get that. But I think 266 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: the idea that it's like, oh, we don't you know 267 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,520 Speaker 1: first if if I guess what frustrates me is people 268 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:50,920 Speaker 1: will come up and say, like, we love the love. 269 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: That's what we want to say, we love, we want 270 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: to see love, and it's like, yeah, well, as you 271 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: guys probably know a lot of you are married, love evolves, 272 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: love changes, and you're really need to continue putting effort 273 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: into love. It's not like you fall in love on 274 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: the beach and then you leave and then it's like, 275 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: all right, guys, well that was fun, you know, like 276 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: their love stories. Over of course it's not. And so, um, 277 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 1: you know, I thought the idea of them bringing back couples, 278 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: and trust me, I felt that they were going to 279 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: do this with more couples. But definitely I thought it 280 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: was gonna be like one couple of week. Maybe. Yeah, 281 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: we didn't think we're gonna be on the ones. I 282 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: don't even got there. Then we realized it was going 283 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: to only be us. But well, truthfully, I know, I 284 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: don't know if it's just us. Do they bring I 285 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: don't know, do you bring past couples? But nobody sleeps 286 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: over like we did. It's gonna be a lot of 287 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: a lot of appearances cameos, but there's there's nobody who 288 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 1: sleeps over. Um. So anyway, those are our two two 289 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: cents about it. But once again, um, we also got 290 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: some nice comments, so I want to thank everybody who 291 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: did say nice things. It means a lot to us. 292 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: Um and uh, at the end of the day, it's okay, 293 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: and I can't fault to the producers stre even thinking 294 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: it was going to be a good idea because all 295 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: of you or not maybe not all of you, but 296 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: hate to general rise, but a lot of you follow 297 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 1: the couples on Instagram afterward because you want to see 298 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: where their relationship leads, and you like following that lifeline timeline, 299 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: So naturally I would think that they like that seems 300 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: like a good idea, like let's put one of those 301 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: couples on there. But I guess not a good idea anyway. Sorry, party, No, 302 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: and it's not meant to be I mean, but let's 303 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,359 Speaker 1: face it, it was a pretty big topic of conversation 304 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: over the past twenty four hours watching Paradise, and then 305 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: we're hosting this podcast, so we're gonna talk about it 306 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: for ten or fifteen minutes, and now we'll move on. 307 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Laced Rodney. So let's take 308 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: a break and then we'll talk about Laced Rodney. Okay, 309 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: So the episode starts with Rodney basically being told like 310 00:14:59,080 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Teddy's gone, uh, so you can date around now. He 311 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: decides not to take anybody on the date with him. 312 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: He's going to hang around and get to know some 313 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: of the girls, and he and Jill are kind of 314 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: hitting it off. He's like, wow, Jill, you're pretty awesome. 315 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: We should have gone on this date. Jill's getting her 316 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: hopes up, and then Lace brings him down to the 317 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: bar or like has a moment at the bar and 318 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody looks over and they're making out. 319 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: Lace made a great move though. She was having her 320 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: flirt her like flirt meter was perfectly tuned on. Does 321 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: that make any sense, No, but you know what I mean, 322 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 1: Like she turned it on and she turned on. Well 323 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 1: you know how you'd have those moments where like sometimes 324 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: like when we first met, I could not do it. 325 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: I couldn't flirt, couldn't have a conversation. Yeah, once I 326 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: got comfortable with you, not like the first couple of days. 327 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: This girl, she was ready set go and it worked 328 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: on him. Yeah. It was out of left field, the 329 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: whole Lace and Rodney thing, because we thought we were, 330 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: you know, shipping Jill Lynn Rodney, Lace came in started 331 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:10,320 Speaker 1: making out with them. Were asleep, but we were asleep, 332 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: of course, we were asleep for half these things. But 333 00:16:14,200 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: love Lace. It's so weird being in paradise and having 334 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 1: friends with so many people because you're like, oh, Jill, 335 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: I want you to be with Rodney, and then Lace 336 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: makes out with Rodney and you're like, well, I want 337 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: Lace to be happy too, So I guess we're playing 338 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:27,600 Speaker 1: so many teams. We felt so like we basically if 339 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:29,040 Speaker 1: anybody came up to us and was like, I want 340 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: to do with so and so, we'd be like, we 341 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 1: want you to be with so and so. Of course 342 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:35,200 Speaker 1: we do, but the problem is everybody's dating each other. 343 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 1: I love Lace, she's the best, she's great for TV, 344 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,800 Speaker 1: she's a great in person. So I'm shipping Lace and Rodney. 345 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: And as Well said, it's an unconventional devil. That's well said, 346 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,440 Speaker 1: there's always one couple each season that takes everybody by surprise, 347 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: and that's definitely that feels like Rodney Lace. We'll see 348 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: how long it lasts. Next couple that we want to 349 00:16:54,840 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: talk about is well the Genevieve Aaron justice In situation. 350 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: Holy crap, this is a lot. This is a lot 351 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: of this episode. Was this triangle, Yeah, the triangle between 352 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: Justin Aaron Genevieve. I feel like it's uh there, uh okay, 353 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: Basically I think I know what it's going to say, 354 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: Justin and Genevieve seemed to be trying way too hard 355 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: for a couple who only had a thing and only 356 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:28,919 Speaker 1: seemed happy on night one, and even that great. I 357 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: don't think they were that great. Did he went on 358 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: that day with Victoria? Yeah? I know? And then you 359 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: know he came back, Johnny was going to give his 360 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: roast to Victoria. Definitely want to proceuse things to Victorious. 361 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:43,480 Speaker 1: But then Justin gave Genevieve the rose, and then there's 362 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: this expectation that like maybe they were going to continue 363 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: try again, but they just seemed why you guys trying 364 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: so hard? There was nothing to fight for here. Yeah, 365 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: and Aaron came in and was like, I want to 366 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: take you on a date, and he was, you know, 367 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:03,479 Speaker 1: steadfast on Genevieve. Justin simply annoyed the fact that he 368 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,439 Speaker 1: gave a rose to Genevieve, and you know, now here 369 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: where is he getting his rose? I can't say it, Creek, 370 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: you can, oh, yeah, we should be able to say it. 371 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: I feel like, um, yeah, so, I mean I get 372 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: that Justin's annoyed by that, but I think that that 373 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: was the risk he took by giving Genevieve that rose. 374 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: That's just the risk you take in Paradise with basically 375 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:27,120 Speaker 1: every rose gave out. It's also you gave a rose 376 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: to someone that you didn't go on a date with. 377 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,000 Speaker 1: Let me think about that. He went on a date 378 00:18:31,040 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: with Victoria? Was that was that after the ros ceremony? 379 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: That was that was before the rose ceremony. It was 380 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: like seven episodes ago, I'll forget everything, Um, just kidding. 381 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, so okay, hold on. So he gave the 382 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,400 Speaker 1: rose to Genevieve and then went on a date with Victoria. No, 383 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: Victoria came on before the rose. Annoyed babe, is that 384 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: he gave his rose to a girl who's now going 385 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: to go on a date with somebody else. Yeah, but 386 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 1: he went on a date with a different girl during 387 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: that week. She was super upset about it, but she 388 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,440 Speaker 1: was like Jenevieve was so upset about it, and then 389 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: he was kind of like, okay, well I think now 390 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 1: now look, I'm going to give you my rose after 391 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 1: all this. And then she goes and talks Aaron and 392 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: Jenevieve was on the podcast last week and she said, 393 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: of course I talked to Justin before going on that date, 394 00:19:21,680 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: Yes you do, and just kind So then we see Aaron. 395 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 1: She gets home from the date with Aaron. She really 396 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: likes Aaron and we I've said multiple times on the 397 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: podcast already, he was our biggest surprise I think as 398 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 1: far as human beings go, when we got there, because 399 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: we were like, oh my god, why is this guy 400 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:41,400 Speaker 1: so angry all the time. He's always looking for a fight. 401 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: He's not funny at all. Is the wide of these 402 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: girls into him? And then we met him and he 403 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: was like, oh wow, you're like cool, funny and daring, 404 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: totally self deprecating. But we also love Justin too. We 405 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: really enjoyed our time with Justin. Really, guys, there was 406 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,119 Speaker 1: nobody we didn't like. Is there nobody that we didn't like. 407 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: The only person we didn't really connect with his logan logan, 408 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: We just didn't have a connection with it. I also 409 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 1: don't I can't say that we really like had like 410 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: a good amount of time with Johnny. Enjoyed Johnny, but 411 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: like didn't have like I can't really remember many moments, 412 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: and that feel like Johnny and Victoria are just always 413 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:19,920 Speaker 1: like yeah, private and quiet, calm. It was very common 414 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 1: around them. There was so common around that was like hilarious. 415 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: Guys were like, why is there like no drama ever 416 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 1: coming from that area? That just coasting right on through. Yeah. 417 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: So yeah, So Jennevieve comes back from the day and 418 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: she's kind of like, hey, I'm surprised that I like him. 419 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 1: She says that to Justin, and then Justin is still 420 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: like pretty pissed. And then it's his birthday, which is 421 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:44,400 Speaker 1: hilarious because it was her birthday. So many effing birthdays. 422 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: They're there for like three weeks and everybody has a birthday? 423 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: Was everybody born in the month of June. Well, it 424 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,679 Speaker 1: was funny because it's like the whole drama was like 425 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: I can't believe he's breaking up with me on my birthday. 426 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: And then it's like two days later it's Justin's birthday, 427 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and it's like, I can't believe she's breaking up with 428 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: me on my birthday. The shady thing that happened here 429 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: is a Justin in the midst of an argument in 430 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: which they're basically like cutting ties, he goes, do I 431 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:11,919 Speaker 1: not get a birthday kiss? You got a birthday kiss? 432 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: And it was so manipulative and a little bit, a 433 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: little actually a lot of it, but like, I also 434 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: hate talking bad about people that I like. But you know, 435 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: I mean, why what's wrong with ussing for a birthday kiss? Jared? 436 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 1: It was like, you didn't see this scene. No I didn't. Yeah, 437 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: you didn't see this scene. Jared watched it, but not 438 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:36,399 Speaker 1: like intently, Um, what do you want for me? He was. 439 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: She was like, I had a great time with Aaron. 440 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:39,560 Speaker 1: I really like him. And he's like, you're gonna leave 441 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: me without a birthday kiss? So anyway, so then she 442 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: goes to Aaron and she's like, I have to admit 443 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:46,880 Speaker 1: to you, I gave him a birthday kiss. And then 444 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 1: Aaron's like, well, that's manipulative of him. But also Aaron 445 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: handled the moment like a chad. He was like, I 446 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,400 Speaker 1: really like you. We had a great day. Tomorrow we'll 447 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 1: start fresh, and that was it. He was so sure 448 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: about it, and they started fresh, and it seems eazy, breezy. 449 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: I think the Aaron also has the perspective of being 450 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: on paradise prior and realizing all right, kind of this 451 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 1: is a situation like yeah, you might kiss someone else, 452 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: but we're still working towards something here together. And she 453 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 1: was honest with me, so let's just move forward. Yeah. 454 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: The other storyline that comes from that double date with 455 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: Aaron and James and genevieven Say, is that Cheney basically 456 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 1: abandoned Logan after this, she likes James more. It's not 457 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: like there's like a crazy passion. She just happens to 458 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 1: like James Mark. It is a very handsome man. I 459 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: love James so sweet. Just wish ayone't wacked. His eyebrows 460 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:41,880 Speaker 1: is the only thing. He's got. Beautiful eyes though, gorgeous eyes. 461 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 1: When he was down in Paradise, it's like, good god, man, 462 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: it's like looking into the ocean. Yeah, he's so sweet 463 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: and like gentle, Okay, which is so surprising? Is it 464 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: so surprising that basically supersensitive so sensitive and gentle? That's what? 465 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: Because I was like, James is he's such a sweetheart 466 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: art and then Aaron's so self deprecating. I'm like, are 467 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: you guys Shore you're the bass brothers, because come on now, 468 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:07,880 Speaker 1: you should be a little douche here, but you're you're 469 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: too nice. Yeah, they're like the yeah, alright. So Jane 470 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: is like Logan, why didn't you come after me when 471 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 1: I came back from my day with James, like you 472 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,880 Speaker 1: didn't try to pursue me at all? And then Jay 473 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 1: and then Logan is kind of like, well, you were 474 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: the one that went on a date. Shouldn't you be 475 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: coming up to me and telling me how you failed 476 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 1: after the date? What do you think about situation like that? 477 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: I'm team Logan probably really yeah, because I mean, could 478 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,440 Speaker 1: you imagine doing this? Could you imagine doing this outside 479 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: of the bachelor bubble, like having you gotta have a 480 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: connection with someone and they're on a date with someone 481 00:23:45,119 --> 00:23:46,439 Speaker 1: else and then they're like, I was just trying to 482 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: make you jealous, Like why aren't you coming after me? 483 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Even though that's I don't think what she was doing. 484 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: She says that she likes James more anyway, Logan, she 485 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: likes James more because like he's more pursuing at this point. 486 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: Maybe just here's the point. I don't feel like Logan 487 00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: and Jane have a very good connection. So it's like, 488 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: why are you annoyed that Logan wasn't coming after you? 489 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: She just wants to be wanted. Yeah, my point exactly 490 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: that it's not you guys are fine. You guys are 491 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:16,040 Speaker 1: It's obviously not that strong connection if neither one of 492 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: you is fighting for the other, so let's just move 493 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: on and try to find someone else. So Janell, you 494 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: move on with James, see how that goes. And then 495 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: Logan try to move on to somebody who's singing? Why 496 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: is it Logan and Jill? Well, Jacob a Jill? Now 497 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: I don't think Logan and could you imagine Logan and 498 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: Jill together? But I'm just saying, single people on the beach, 499 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,920 Speaker 1: Let's just figure things out. Obviously your connection. Let's get 500 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: some friendship roses figured out. Let's get some friendship making out, 501 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: you know, friendship making out. What are the last person 502 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: to say anything? Because like you and I both would 503 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: never friendship makeout. You wouldn't like you wouldn't like send 504 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: my friendship make out with me. That was different. You're like, 505 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: I liked you too much, but I was also I 506 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 1: knew I would be leading you on compared to Jill. 507 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:05,239 Speaker 1: You use the term leading on. Remember you hated that. 508 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you said you would have been Jared hates 509 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: Jared mixed singles. Jared says, there's a difference between mixed 510 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: signals and leading on, and that's a whole other conversation. 511 00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: At the crux of it. I understand what Jared was saying, 512 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: but I think that people usually use those storms synonymously. Okay, 513 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: on it to another bachelor couple, that's just that's just easy, breezy, 514 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: like Johnny and Victoria are at this point, it's a 515 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Serene Brandon Serene are. I mean, yeah, they're just smooth. 516 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: It's just smooth falling in love with each other. He 517 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,679 Speaker 1: says he's falling in love. Some people are giving him 518 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: criticism for saying that so early, including Jared. No, it's not, 519 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: it's just more, you know, sometimes you get wrapped up 520 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: in the moment. That doesn't mean he's not actually going 521 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: to fall in love with her. But I think maybe 522 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: it was a I don't know. I mean, listen, it 523 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,439 Speaker 1: all depends on how it plays out, what happens, if 524 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,159 Speaker 1: they end up spending the rest of their lives together. 525 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 1: This man is so incredibly romantic though, That's what I mean, like, 526 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: because yeah, do I think he said it too early, 527 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: But at the same time, he's so sweet and endearing 528 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: it makes you want to believe what he's saying. I 529 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: wonder if Michelle is watching this back and just being like, 530 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:19,160 Speaker 1: man I missed out because Brandon is No, it's not. 531 00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope not. Damn, I hope not. That's awkward. 532 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,880 Speaker 1: I don't know. It just Brandon is so swoony to me, 533 00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: very swooney, you know what I mean. He's very good looking. 534 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: He's very good looking, but he's just like he loves 535 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: love like that. Is not a player, dude. Yeah. He 536 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: also pays attention when you talk. I noticed that when 537 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:36,119 Speaker 1: I was talking too, he was looking at me in 538 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 1: the eyes. He's like, oh, this is a very listener. 539 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't know what it is about him. He's just 540 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: like so like precious, you know, used that expression like 541 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: protect this man at all costs. That's how I feel 542 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: about Brandon. Yeah, I would agree. Okay. So anyway, um yeah, 543 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 1: Brandon and Serena have a great date. He says, I'm 544 00:26:54,720 --> 00:27:00,240 Speaker 1: I'm all yours so cute. I mean, I at it. 545 00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: Serene is catch beautiful, smart, intelligent. Sure, Brandon's like, this 546 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: girl is incredible and I want to lock her down 547 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 1: immediately before any other douchebags walked down these stairs and 548 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 1: try to steal my girl. They are just classic couple, 549 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: the one that starts strong and strong doesn't have any 550 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: drama unfortunately. Well okay, yeah, I'm sorry, I'm just seeing 551 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 1: foreseeing like you know, there's like little slots they put 552 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760 Speaker 1: you in. Well, plus, he's I mean, I get that 553 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: a little bit of his story, but in his intro 554 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: he's literally unburying of engagement. You know what that is? Yeah? Okay, 555 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: So in Michelle's season bettered an engagement when she denied 556 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: his proposal. He threw it into this that's right forgot about, 557 00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,080 Speaker 1: which I think is the best intro of all the 558 00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: intros thus far this year. Uh yeah, what else is 559 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: a good intro? So funny Lace's call back to her 560 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: bachelor party season three where she falls and catches the drink. 561 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,359 Speaker 1: I think season three is the best one. That was 562 00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: the one where Josh kicked the soccer ball and then 563 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 1: the soccer ball hit Nick in the head. Incredible, so good, 564 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 1: so good. And then Wells was DJ and the Coconuts. Yeah, 565 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: spinning back when Wells was just a DJ in Nashville. 566 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:22,679 Speaker 1: I know, it's that crazy, It's Yeah. What was I 567 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,120 Speaker 1: gonna say was because say something what I thought was poignant, 568 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,320 Speaker 1: which probably wasn't pointing in at all. Maybe it'll come 569 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 1: back to me, Oh yeah, okay. So basically like they 570 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: put you in slots right because they're like, you will 571 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 1: be the couple that will be together and it'll be tumultuous. 572 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 1: You will be the couple that you get together and 573 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 1: it's strong the entire time. There's always the strong, the 574 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: entire time couple, and that is Brandon and Serena or 575 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: for what I foresee. Yeah, but sometimes those couples end up. No, 576 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: there's there's just a couple, babe. There's like the couple 577 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,080 Speaker 1: that's strong and then they could fall apart, and then 578 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: there's a couple that's strong and they stay strong. It's 579 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: like the Jadeen Tanner versus the Carly and Kirk Kirk 580 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 1: Kirk No, Kirk Lorn and I literally had this fight 581 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,200 Speaker 1: on the sand. Is it Kirk or is it Kurt? 582 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 1: It's Kirk Jared kay I are So there's one of each. 583 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't think Brandon Serena are going. I don't think 584 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: they're going to Carly and Kirk way, they're going the 585 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: car the Jane January. One can only hope. What's the 586 00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,320 Speaker 1: next thing. Next thing is basically the Carly and Kirk. 587 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: It's Michael and Sierra. Yeah, do you want to take 588 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 1: you can explain the Michael and Sierra story a little bit. 589 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Michael Sierra, they just they when we went 590 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 1: down there, they seemed like a pretty solid couple. They 591 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: were solid couple. And then you know, we all saw 592 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 1: what happened with Sierra. She had that date planned and 593 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: everybody was so excited for her. Well, I was, okay, 594 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: so we're at we're all really excited, We're all really nervous. Okay, 595 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 1: So because we were just like, I think it's a 596 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,040 Speaker 1: great idea, but you know, it's just as everybody knows, 597 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a lot. It's a heavy conversation to 598 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: have in such an early relationship, and so I think 599 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,200 Speaker 1: we're all really excited. We all thought it was going 600 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: to go well, but I think all of us had 601 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: like a little little voice in the back of our 602 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: head saying, is it too much? And then we're like no, 603 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: like we're in paradise. This is what you know. And 604 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: she really wanted to talk to her about the situation 605 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: and make him know that she was there for him 606 00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: and supporting and that you know, she was not trying 607 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 1: to replace anybody or anything like that. Um. But obviously 608 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: we all saw what happened, which sucked because Sierra Sia 609 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: again just this is just stunning. She's striking, and she's 610 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: just so sweet. She's really just she's a sweetheart. She is, um, yeah, 611 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 1: great heart. But Michael has a gave so much. Now listen, 612 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: I talked to Sierra a little bit more than Michael 613 00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: up until this point, so I was knowing their relationship 614 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: much more through Sierra's eyes, and then afterward I was 615 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: talking to Michael Moore, and I saw the relationship with 616 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,200 Speaker 1: through Michael's eyes. The situation that Michael's in is really 617 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 1: like almost unprecedented as far as being in Paradise. We've 618 00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: seen a couple widow Like the only other widow I 619 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: can think about on the show is Emily Maynard. Can 620 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: you think of another widow? No? Not? Uh? Oh, Julia Kinney, 621 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: Julia Kinney and technically or whatnot? Technically? I mean Kelsey Oh, 622 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: Kelsey po Kelsey Poh. How did that not come to 623 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: the top of my head? I can see why. It's 624 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: a little bit of a different situation, totally different situation. 625 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:40,360 Speaker 1: Let's not even go there. Okay, So Michael has obviously 626 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: he's obviously going to go about dating in this atmosphere 627 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: different than everyone. Um, he has not had a serious 628 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 1: relationship since his wife, and he talks openly about how 629 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: he's not going, like it's hard for him to get there. 630 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: He's scared because every time him he does get close 631 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: to really dating someone, he basically walks away. Yeah, that's 632 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 1: not really conducive for dating, but that's why I was concerned. 633 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,200 Speaker 1: When I heard this from him, or I heard these 634 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: concerns from Sierra, I was like, oh crap, then he's 635 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: probably I don't know if Paradise is the place for him. 636 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, so, I mean I love Michael, but I 637 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,080 Speaker 1: also don't want him to go into a relationship with 638 00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: someone again and have the same thing happened again. It 639 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 1: just seemed like he was going to need like the 640 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: slowest of the slow process, and obviously Paradise is like 641 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: the fastest of the fast process, the fastest of the fast. 642 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: So Sia is telling us girls what she's doing. She 643 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: just looks so gorgeous, and she's going to pull him 644 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: aside and show him the stars that she got for 645 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: him and Laura and their son. And I thought he 646 00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: was going to take it well and I was, but 647 00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: not like to also tell her to slow down. I 648 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,360 Speaker 1: thought I was going to tell her. I thought he 649 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:04,960 Speaker 1: was going to tell her we got to slow down. 650 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 1: I did not think he was going to tell her 651 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: let's be friends. Yeah, it went a hundred to zero 652 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: really quickly in Sierra's eyes, and I understand that Michael 653 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: probably had a different outlook and maybe they weren't communicating 654 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 1: or he wasn't communicating as well as he wanted to 655 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 1: to see her saying with in terms of how fast 656 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: the relationship was moving. But yeah, it's crazy how it 657 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: just ended. Yeh, roadblock. I expected when Sierra told us 658 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: as a group that he basically cut it off with her, 659 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: that he was going to leave as well. And then 660 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,120 Speaker 1: do you and I were both kind of shocked when 661 00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: we saw that he's just hanging around because I thought 662 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: what he was saying is like, this is going too fast. 663 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I've realized this is in the place for me to 664 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: find a relationship. But he was really just saying like 665 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: this is not That's actually not the situation at all. 666 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: The situation with Michael was that he really felt like 667 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: something was missing with Sarah. He did not feel it 668 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: all the way is that. Yeah, it was more that 669 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:13,760 Speaker 1: the connection with Sierra wasn't there, rather than the environment 670 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 1: of paradises can move too quickly. Hey, so what we 671 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 1: once we heard from that we're like okay, and a 672 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 1: lot of people whenever something ends, a relationship ends, everybody's 673 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 1: looking for someone to blame. And I feel like this 674 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: is a situation where there's there's no specific like I 675 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 1: don't fault Michael and I don't fault Sierra. I can 676 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,640 Speaker 1: see both sides of what they were going through. It 677 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: was just an awkward situation that of course I think 678 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:39,239 Speaker 1: Michael could have handled things better in but also like 679 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: he could not have been He could not be more 680 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: sweet in this moment. He's just the sweetest man. And 681 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 1: it's like, guys, how else did you want him to 682 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,799 Speaker 1: break up with her? Did you want him to do 683 00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: it in increments? Because he couldn't. There's no other good 684 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,040 Speaker 1: way of doing it, I thought, you know, they you know, 685 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: he handled the situation as well as he could, and um, 686 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,920 Speaker 1: he did want to lead her on anymore. But the 687 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:06,920 Speaker 1: thing was, I guess she never had a sign for 688 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,600 Speaker 1: her to slow down in the first place. It's so 689 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: hard though, because then I agree because you're in paradise 690 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,719 Speaker 1: and things move quickly. But at the same time, they 691 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: were probably hanging out at this point four five days maybe, 692 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: which I guess is an eternity in paradise, but it's 693 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 1: it's that is such a gray area to me where 694 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: I can understand, you know, Sierra saying, well, it's been 695 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: five days and in paradise, that's a very long time. 696 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: I wish I had more of an idea that the 697 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 1: your our connection was not as strong as I thought 698 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: it was. But then I can also see the other 699 00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,560 Speaker 1: side saying, well, it was so early on I wanted 700 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: to give this a real chance, and then it is 701 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 1: still only five days in before I ended up ending things, 702 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:01,839 Speaker 1: ending things, which I felt was still pretty early on. Yeah, 703 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,799 Speaker 1: it's hard. It's really hard when you're there in the 704 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,799 Speaker 1: moment and you get to know these people and you 705 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 1: know the situation when you see it go down and stuff, 706 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: and then critique it. It's definitely easier to critique episodes 707 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: when you're not there. I know, we just have a 708 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: lot of empathy for everybody, and we like everybody. Uh, 709 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 1: And I guess that's it for the recap, But we 710 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: do have a couple of huge bachelor headlines. So we're going, well, 711 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: actually there's maybe just one huge one. Yeah, there's one 712 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:33,839 Speaker 1: huge one, and we've got to talk about it. Right 713 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: after this break, we're back with headlines and this is 714 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: like my favorite Helloine ever? Did you know this? You know, 715 00:36:53,040 --> 00:37:01,800 Speaker 1: engaged Cla to Ryan Dawkins. She really came out publicly 716 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:06,239 Speaker 1: with this relationship not long ago. I saw her in 717 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,799 Speaker 1: June and she was seeing someone. Had to have been him, right, 718 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,279 Speaker 1: I have not texted her like asking like was this 719 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:20,680 Speaker 1: the guy yet? But either way, so thrilling. This woman 720 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 1: deserves I hate saying deserves love, like it's my least 721 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: favorite thing because I think that's everything. But everybody, everybody 722 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 1: deserves love. But damn do I root for Claire Crawley 723 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 1: to find love more than like a lot of people. 724 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 1: First of all, I don't think everyone deserves love, you don't. 725 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: There's some very bad people, but the majority of people 726 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: certainly do. Uh yeah, like you know specific because that 727 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:51,880 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dahmer thing is that does not deserve Okay, so 728 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: the majority of people in this world deserve love. But yeah, no, 729 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 1: super excited for Claire. Uh they I'm assuming i'd been 730 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: dating for a while and she us announced a relationship 731 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 1: because even if they were, yeah, it was like they 732 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: went Instagram official last month. Yeah, so it feels so 733 00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,759 Speaker 1: fast because of that, But I would assume that they've 734 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 1: been dating for six or seven months at least, which 735 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:14,640 Speaker 1: you know, when you get to even you get to 736 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,680 Speaker 1: sut of port in your life, you're like, Okay, we're ready. 737 00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,879 Speaker 1: This feels right, this feels good. Um, let's move forward. Yeah. 738 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: So he is mascot sports CEO, and yeah, I know 739 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 1: it sounds pretty big, right, I feel like I've heard 740 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,919 Speaker 1: of it before. Okay, you looked that up. I don't 741 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: think we're thinking of mascot books. So we know mascots. Yeah, 742 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: we are book Lucy and Clark the story probably love 743 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: mascot books. Um. Yeah, So they got engaged in in 744 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:44,880 Speaker 1: Las Vegas over the weekend. He got down on one 745 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:49,080 Speaker 1: knee at the Rise Festival on Friday during a romantic 746 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: lantern release, which was far more romantic than the lantern 747 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:57,439 Speaker 1: release that you saw Well's recap the other day. Um, 748 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,839 Speaker 1: there was seven thousand, a ten D s Claire says, 749 00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: she's over the moon and a People exclusive. This was 750 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,400 Speaker 1: the last thing I expected, right, now, especially coming from 751 00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: where I was a year ago. Think about where she 752 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:12,719 Speaker 1: was a year ago. She and Dale were just like 753 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: a I don't even know if they were broken up 754 00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,319 Speaker 1: for the second time yet, She says, it's been such 755 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,799 Speaker 1: a serious journey and Ryan has been been been by 756 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: my side since the very beginning. Um, she says, really, 757 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: what he's in it for is my heart, and he's 758 00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 1: so consistent and so vocal about how much he loves me. 759 00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,920 Speaker 1: It is something I've never experienced. It's been such a 760 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: gift having him in my life. Uh so effing sweet. 761 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 1: He also, she says, She says he's the perfect match 762 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 1: to her, and I'm just so happy, you guys, can 763 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,760 Speaker 1: you believe like what she went through in the past 764 00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: two years and now she found her man, She found 765 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: her man. I feel I don't know this man. I 766 00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:03,040 Speaker 1: don't know this man at all, but I feel so 767 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:09,000 Speaker 1: much more secure. When her and Dale got together, it 768 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: was like, oh this could. I hope it works out 769 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: because I know that she's ready. And then of course 770 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:20,759 Speaker 1: that infamous interview with it was Chris where he's like, 771 00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:24,880 Speaker 1: what's next and by a base and Dale's like, oh, well, 772 00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: oh well, you know, I don't know. I don't know. 773 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,000 Speaker 1: This guy babies so good. It was a great classic 774 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: Bachelor moment. Now Claire is going to be a step mom. 775 00:40:38,560 --> 00:40:41,000 Speaker 1: It seems to Ryan's two girls that he has. I 776 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,120 Speaker 1: love the fact that she's going to be like an 777 00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 1: automatic mom motherly, so motherly she like she uh yeah, 778 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:58,239 Speaker 1: I feel like she just is gives direction very you 779 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,399 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like she's gonna be those kids 780 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: are going to be doctors, you know what I mean. 781 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: She's gonna like set them on the right path. Yeah, 782 00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 1: she's gonna be there every minute to make sure their 783 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 1: school work is done and that they have like they're 784 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:15,400 Speaker 1: embedded at a certain time. And uh yeah, that's cool. 785 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,200 Speaker 1: That's cool. I'm excited for her and for her fiance. 786 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: Very exciting. And another upcoming Bachelor alum wedding will be 787 00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,920 Speaker 1: Madison Pruett, who is going to get married in days, 788 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,360 Speaker 1: literally within the month. It's wild. This was the crazy 789 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:33,799 Speaker 1: fast engagement. They got engaged over the summer and they're 790 00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,879 Speaker 1: getting married in November. She had her bachelorette party this 791 00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: weekend in Miami. She said the theme of the weekend 792 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: was Maddie's Last Slam Dunk, which is you know, a 793 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: play on the fact that she loves basketball. It was 794 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:57,400 Speaker 1: at the Myami Beach Edition boutique hotel. She says it 795 00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: was a dream uh that they had. They had cabana time, 796 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 1: They had dinner at the hotel before going to a 797 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:12,840 Speaker 1: micro club. Did she play college ball? Yeah? Yeah? What 798 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: what are you smiling like that for? I'm not smiling. 799 00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: I'm wondering if I could beat her one on one. 800 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: I don't think you could. Actually, I don't know, but 801 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 1: I think she's pretty good. Jared, No, she's really good. Yeah, 802 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:25,840 Speaker 1: I'm just trying to think if I could stay in 803 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 1: front of her and see and Michelle. I'd like to 804 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: see if you could go one on one with she 805 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: and Michelle, know, not two on one, babe, Like you 806 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,320 Speaker 1: play against one of them, then you play against the 807 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,880 Speaker 1: other one and then the winners played together unless you went. Okay, 808 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 1: So a micro club, keep score, baby? What's a micro club? 809 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: Heading over to the basement? A microbe club that plays 810 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: homage to Ian? Oh to this to um studio. That's cool. 811 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 1: Oh they rented it out for skating and bowling. They 812 00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: had drinks, desserts. If you guys care what Maddy Krewett 813 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 1: did on her Bachelor party. You can read more in 814 00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:14,040 Speaker 1: the People article. Jar is obviously not invested. All right, 815 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,839 Speaker 1: that's it for this episode. We'll see you guys on 816 00:43:18,040 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: I think your next episode will come out on Thursday night. 817 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 1: You didn't want to talk about Rachel and Rachel and Zach. Oh, 818 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: this is a bullshit headline. This is Zach saying that 819 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,440 Speaker 1: he felt some spark between Even and Rachel on the 820 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:38,440 Speaker 1: finale when he interrupted the whole Tino situation. And let 821 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,880 Speaker 1: me tell you, there's no There was no real spark. 822 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: That was a oh my gosh, you're making maybe look 823 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: so much better right now, I'm pulling you off stage 824 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 1: and I will probably never see you again moment. Uh yeah, Well, 825 00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:56,879 Speaker 1: because I've been on social just I don't see any 826 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 1: pictures of him and Rachel together. They've never hung out afterwards, 827 00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:01,560 Speaker 1: so it feels like that was a waste of time. 828 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: It is exactly why I said it was a b 829 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,759 Speaker 1: s headline. Sorry, that's all touched on because I was like, 830 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,120 Speaker 1: I saw the spark comment, and I was like, but 831 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: I don't see any like did they did they even 832 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,759 Speaker 1: like hang out at any point afterwards? To read the 833 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,440 Speaker 1: article verbatim you have read, says Zach says he noticed 834 00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:22,399 Speaker 1: chemistry between the two the last time I start heard 835 00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: and Aven they had a little bit of a spark 836 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,560 Speaker 1: on camera, love and respect. Aven want the best for them. 837 00:44:27,719 --> 00:44:30,560 Speaker 1: If it's a thing, it's it's spoilerer. It's just not 838 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,840 Speaker 1: a thing. It doesn't feel like a thing. This is 839 00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:38,239 Speaker 1: not around Tyler Cameron. Is it a thing? Yea, because 840 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,720 Speaker 1: those remember there was pictures the next day where apartment 841 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:45,719 Speaker 1: or whatever, and uh, this was like they left. They 842 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,640 Speaker 1: literally left the stage and were like, all right, cool, 843 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: that was fun. See you later, big gulps. Huh, well 844 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:54,719 Speaker 1: see you later by but guys, oh until next time, 845 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: which will be a new podcast on Thursday evening when 846 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,720 Speaker 1: Ben and I are together here at Audrey's Coffee House 847 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,719 Speaker 1: and Lounge, were doing a live podcast. If you're in 848 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: the New England area and you want to meet Cassie 849 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:12,200 Speaker 1: Randolph jil Chen and Ben Higgins. Cass is coming to 850 00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:17,120 Speaker 1: where Cassie California's going all the way. Oh my god, 851 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: I know I always feel bad when people coming like 852 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: it's a nice place that I love it so much. 853 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 1: It's really nice and the food is good and the 854 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:24,839 Speaker 1: coffee is good, but at the end of the day, 855 00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: it's a coffee shop. Like I feel so bad. I'm like, oh, well, 856 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,319 Speaker 1: I just needs her to go to Newport. You know, 857 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,360 Speaker 1: you gotta go to Newport, you gotta go to Westerly, 858 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: like make your time, to make the most of your 859 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:37,760 Speaker 1: time here. But guys, if you're in the new area, sorry, 860 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:39,879 Speaker 1: now I'm going because I'm like Newport. I was like, wait, 861 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,440 Speaker 1: it was Cassie Newport and then I'm like, no, that 862 00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: was Hannah season. So that was after because Hannah was 863 00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,360 Speaker 1: on Colton season, which was the season cass he was 864 00:45:47,400 --> 00:45:53,400 Speaker 1: on Wow, yeah, Hannah season. No, Colton was on Becca season. 865 00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,360 Speaker 1: Colton was on Sason I'm like, and then Hannah was 866 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: on colten season. Then Hannah became the Bachelorette, and then 867 00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 1: that was obviously Tyler and Jed and Pylot Pete and 868 00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 1: then he became the Bachelor. There's your recap of the 869 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:12,520 Speaker 1: past five years. We'll see you guys at Audrey's on Thursday. 870 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 1: Love you so much. It's open to the public, y'all, 871 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,440 Speaker 1: and seriously, love you guys. Come, come, come. People who 872 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,399 Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, who watched the show, who don't 873 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,239 Speaker 1: say any things about it, and I hope that you 874 00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: guys don't again, don't want you to think that was 875 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 1: like a pity party of we're fine, we're doing well, 876 00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:34,040 Speaker 1: we're very lucky, we're so happy, we're so happy to 877 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 1: a party, and then people told us to get out, 878 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,160 Speaker 1: and it was a little embarrassing to our faces. It's like, 879 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,560 Speaker 1: we don't want you here. It's like, all right, never mind. 880 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,200 Speaker 1: I wanted to like contact producers, be like, should you 881 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,839 Speaker 1: guys just like edit this out, just let us leave. 882 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,320 Speaker 1: We never say goodbye. They'll never realize that just because 883 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,719 Speaker 1: even like, yeah, even tonight we have some stuff. I know, 884 00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 1: I'm not We have a watch party at Audrey's, which 885 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,640 Speaker 1: court everybody will be nice there, well know, and even 886 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,319 Speaker 1: like you know Audrey our business it's like a kid 887 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,440 Speaker 1: just like us. Well you know, it's a podcasta you know, 888 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:12,640 Speaker 1: this is what we do on podcasts, and so of course, 889 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,920 Speaker 1: like anybody who comes to Audrey's and supports our business 890 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 1: or small business, that's amazing, and please come and everybody 891 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,480 Speaker 1: comes so nice. But yeah, I'm not gonna be watching 892 00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 1: because I'm just gonna be so insecure. I don't know 893 00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: how there's a part of it doesn't want to go tonight. 894 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: This is like a flashback to Jared, like being in 895 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,719 Speaker 1: high school, the insecurities. There was a there was a 896 00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,240 Speaker 1: table in high school one time. Now, granted I didn't 897 00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,319 Speaker 1: have that bad of experience. I got bullied a little bit, 898 00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,240 Speaker 1: but yeah, but I had other kids that were bullied 899 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,239 Speaker 1: way worse, and I felt terrible for them. And I 900 00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: never stuck up for him because I would get bullied 901 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,840 Speaker 1: a little bit, but I would never want that onto me. 902 00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,759 Speaker 1: You know, I never had the courage to stick up 903 00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:51,719 Speaker 1: for other people because I was too nervous. Then all 904 00:47:51,719 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, like I would get the full steam 905 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,239 Speaker 1: of bullying. So but I remember this one time, it 906 00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: was kind of it was it wasn't bullying, it was 907 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 1: just more I don't know. I guess maybe they didn't 908 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:03,280 Speaker 1: know how I was insecure. But there was a circle 909 00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:07,040 Speaker 1: of hate about me. Um, I couldn't that sounds like 910 00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,479 Speaker 1: that I hate Rachel Green Club. It was a little 911 00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,799 Speaker 1: bit and um, yeah, I don't know why circle of 912 00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 1: hate my poor baby. So I couldn't go. I remember 913 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,600 Speaker 1: they went to Hooters after a football practice or something. 914 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,959 Speaker 1: I couldn't go, and and uh, they were. They told 915 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: me they were very happy that I wasn't there, and 916 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:26,040 Speaker 1: I think they were busting my balls. But this is 917 00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,400 Speaker 1: when I was very, very insecure, and so I wouldn't 918 00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,200 Speaker 1: call it bullying. But they called me and they told 919 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,400 Speaker 1: me afterwards that they created They each one around the 920 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,560 Speaker 1: table and said something that they hated about me. Yeah, 921 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,920 Speaker 1: it's very remember any examples. One of them said that 922 00:48:39,960 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: they hated I loved Seinfeld so much and that I 923 00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,840 Speaker 1: said I wanted to be like George Costanza because I 924 00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:45,760 Speaker 1: always joke around, be like I wanted to be like George, 925 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:47,920 Speaker 1: like he lives a big lie. It's very funny. And 926 00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: of course I would say this year old Jared was 927 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 1: still wanted to be George Costanza until this day. Yeah, 928 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,920 Speaker 1: and then that's the only one that stuck out to me. 929 00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: And then I think somebody said they hated that I 930 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,600 Speaker 1: tucked in my jerseys when I because I used to 931 00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: go I remember I tucked in and were jerseys to school, 932 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,239 Speaker 1: and uh, I mean like you used to wear and 933 00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,800 Speaker 1: Tom Brady jersey, Paul Pierced jersey, you know, just local 934 00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,799 Speaker 1: Celtics or Patriot players. And I would tuck him into 935 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,320 Speaker 1: my jeans, but then apparently that was not cool, which obviously, 936 00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,400 Speaker 1: looking back, I'm like, why did I tuck in my jerseys? 937 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,040 Speaker 1: Oh my sweep boy. Oh that's quite all right, but 938 00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:34,520 Speaker 1: now we're just reliving it all good, alright, now we're 939 00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 1: actually signing off until next time. I've been Ashley and 940 00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:42,440 Speaker 1: I've been jarried by. Followed the Benn and Ashley I 941 00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 1: Almost Famous podcasts on I Heart Radio or subscribe wherever 942 00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:47,359 Speaker 1: you listen to podcasts