1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: He's one of the pook achol. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: How's it going, everybody? Welcome back, Welcome back, and welcome 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: back to my buddy from the West Coast, Terrence Cam. 4 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: We call him TK. How you doing, TK? I'm getting 5 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 2: a little tired of all this speculation. 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: Hello, sir? Yes, No, I know the same here man, 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: Like the winter meetings are all the way in Orlando. 8 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm hearing sort of murmurs seeing Cashman speak, and I'm 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: a little frustrated, to be honest, but I'm trying to 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: hold out hope that maybe they're this is just a 11 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: big mirage and they're just kind of playing their tactics 12 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: a little differently this winter. 13 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get the audience involved a lot tonight and early, early, 14 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 2: and often, as they say. Mirkwood Studio says, Wow, I 15 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 2: have two videos in my queue Pinstrive Territory Yankees have 16 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: zero plan and Fireside Yankees who we respect says Brian 17 00:00:48,760 --> 00:00:52,440 Speaker 2: Cashman reveals big off season plan and his take is 18 00:00:52,479 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 2: that nobody really knows what's going on, and you know what, 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 2: I think there's some truth to that. I'm leaning into 20 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 2: no plan because I haven't seen an actual plan from 21 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: the Yankees. Like last year we were talking in the 22 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 2: green room, the proverbial green room here. Last year, it 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: was clear right Jan Soto was plan A. They wanted 24 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:13,919 Speaker 2: to re sign Wan Soda, and when that didn't happen, 25 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 2: they pivoted quickly to you know, Max Fried and Paul 26 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 2: Goldschmid and Cody Bellinger. This year, it doesn't seem like 27 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 2: there's even a plan A. And I was watching Joel 28 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: Sherman on the Pinstrite Post podcast and he says that 29 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,160 Speaker 2: this front office always has a plan A, a Plan B, 30 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 2: A Plan C, and I just don't. I don't know 31 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: what Plan A looks like at this point, do you No? 32 00:01:40,600 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: I have no idea. And I think this kind of 33 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:45,560 Speaker 1: goes back to Trent Chrisham accepting the qualifying offer because 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, you've heard murmurs about, oh, they want to 35 00:01:48,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: get under the three hundred million threshold, and Cashman's kind 36 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 1: of refuting that, and Michael Kay saying that they're going 37 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: to and then hal Steinbrenner with the well we're not 38 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: sort of profitable comments, like everything is sort of really 39 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: weird with their financial situation. No one really knows, don't 40 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't even know if they're gonna go over it 41 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: or not. I would think probably not, just because at 42 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,399 Speaker 1: this point they're two, they're at like two seventy nine, 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: and that's before all the arbitration guys go on, So 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: it's almost like they're too close to that point to 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: really stay under it. But I feel like they really 46 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot there with the Trent Grisham 47 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:24,920 Speaker 1: qualifying offer. I really don't think they expected him to 48 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: take it. And you have to ask yourself the question, Derek, 49 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,680 Speaker 1: you get a fourth round pick if he declines the offer? Right, 50 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: So are you valuing a fourth round pick at twenty 51 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: two million dollars? For context, the folks first overall pick 52 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: I think is slotted for about twelve or thirteen million dollars, 53 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: which is almost half of that, So that's that's kind 54 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: of ridiculous. And you know he had a good season. 55 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: They Cashman's talking about how they think it's for real. Okay, 56 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: show me something. But if it doesn't work out, dude, 57 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: and you could have rolled out Spencer Jones if you 58 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: didn't get Pellinger, and you could have at least tried 59 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 1: that for a much cheaper option, gonna be pretty upset. 60 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it feels like almost a reverse slot machine. Right. 61 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 2: You put in a qualifying offer and if you win, oh, 62 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: you got twenty two million dollar bill. Right, that's what 63 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 2: we got for Grishiam here. Look, I like Grisham as 64 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: a player. I thought he had a lot of big 65 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,679 Speaker 2: hits last year, right, But there was a reason I 66 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 2: put him on my Yankees who Won't Be back list. 67 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,160 Speaker 2: It's because it made very little sense to bring him 68 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 2: back when you're I mean, Bellinger won is clearly the 69 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,440 Speaker 2: better player at this point. He's a better contact hitter, 70 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 2: he was better defensively last year, he's got a better arm. 71 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: And you know, Dominguez is your top prospect. He's now 72 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 2: essentially blocked, right if you bring back Bellinger. So the 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: Yankees kind of put themselves in between a rock and 74 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 2: a hard place. And you know, I was you know, 75 00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 2: I read the comments and I see a lot of 76 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: Yankees fans are kind of ticked that it's been nothing 77 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: but speculation thus far. And that goes for me too. 78 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 2: Like the podcast, I mean, I can't report on news 79 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: if there is no news, right, I mean, we need 80 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 2: something to happen as fans, just to make it interesting. 81 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 2: And I feel like this has been one of the 82 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 2: least interesting off seasons that the Yankees have had in years, 83 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: not only in terms of like what they've actually done, 84 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: but like the rumors aren't even really that fun. I mean, 85 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: we were talking about tattoos. We've done an episode about 86 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:19,880 Speaker 2: tattoos that feels like a stretch. Not impossible, but feels 87 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: like a stretch. Obviously, Paul Skeins and like tariq'schooball these 88 00:04:24,680 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: are guys who are not impossible, but they're damn near impossible, 89 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 2: and it's a stretch and gut your farm. It's just 90 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 2: not the type of move that Cashman wants to make 91 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: right now. I feel like Ahmed Rosario, you know, could 92 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 2: be a move. You know, those type of little pieces 93 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:41,719 Speaker 2: might be what Cashman's thinking. And that's not just not 94 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,040 Speaker 2: gonna get anybody excited from like, you know, I can't 95 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 2: wait for the season to start kind of kind of perspective. 96 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: No, you're not generating any juice with that. There's no 97 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:53,679 Speaker 1: juice to the Winter Meetings. The Winter Meetings are probably 98 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:56,839 Speaker 1: the most exciting exciting time in the off season for baseball. 99 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: I think it's one of the more exciting off seasons 100 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: in sports really because a lot of things happen very quickly, 101 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure they're having conversations right now down in Orlando, 102 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and a lot of teams are talking. But I just 103 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: I look at the roster. I literally have the Fangrafts 104 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: payroll situation pulled up right now. I look at the roster. 105 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: I look at the salaries. What's movable on this team? 106 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Not much? Are you moving Ryan McMahon, Okay, he makes 107 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: fifteen million this year and he makes fifteen million next year. 108 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 1: You don't know if next year is gonna be played. 109 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,599 Speaker 1: But he's a glove first third baseman with a little 110 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: bit of pop. He's a lefty bat, which Casman's already 111 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: said that they're two left handed. Can't move him, obviously, Grisham, 112 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: you can't move him either until at least like June. 113 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,239 Speaker 1: You can't move Stanton, you can't move You're not moving 114 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Judge obviously, Jazz, Chisholm, and I guess probably Ben Rice 115 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: and Dimingez would be, maybe even Austin Wells are your 116 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,080 Speaker 1: most moveable pieces. But that's almost like you're taking two 117 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 1: steps back to go one step forward. If you're doing that, 118 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't make a lot of sense unless you're gonna 119 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: deal with Dimingez fl a Tatis or something like that. 120 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 2: Let's talk about Jazz because his name has been brought 121 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 2: up in trade rumors. And I had Frankie Baseball on 122 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: we were talking about it, and here's the thing about Jazz. 123 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: You're gonna have to replace him, I mean, and that's 124 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 2: a four point two B ward. I mean, this is 125 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 2: a guy who went thirty thirty. This is not an 126 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,279 Speaker 2: easy guy to replace. Like, I don't think that there's 127 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 2: another Jazz chis. I'm just sitting out there that you 128 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 2: can go get, you know, for pennies on the dollar 129 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,440 Speaker 2: like they did with you know, Cody Bellinger for Cody 130 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 2: putit right. I mean, if you go get Katel Marte, 131 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 2: it's gonna cost you something, right, I mean, I think 132 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:35,120 Speaker 2: it makes more sense to just bring Jazz back and 133 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: just hope he has a big year and gives you 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 2: some production and stays healthy. If he plays one hundred 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 2: and sixty game. He got a chance at forty forty. 136 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 2: He's that type of player. And you know, somebody brought 137 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 2: this up in the comments the other day that after 138 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 2: he switched to that like seventy percent like swing mode, 139 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 2: he hit two sixty five, so he hit much better 140 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 2: he was. He was struggling. Where do you land on 141 00:06:55,720 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 2: the trade Jazz or do not trade Jazz Bandwagon again 142 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 2: right now? 143 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: You know, it really depends on a lot. But I 144 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: think it's crazy. You could argue that Jazz Chishom Junior, 145 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: as presently constituted right now on the roster other than 146 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Judge, is your best offensive player. You could make 147 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 1: that argument. I think Ben Rice will kind of have 148 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,119 Speaker 1: something to do with that. I expect him to sort 149 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: of take a step forward offensively and have a really 150 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: good season. But you know, if I'm excluding Aaron Judge 151 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: and the potential of Ben Rice, Jaschism is probably your 152 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:28,880 Speaker 1: best offensive player. So I don't think it makes a 153 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: whole lot of sense to move him. I would be 154 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: in the camp of signing him to an extension. I 155 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,160 Speaker 1: got to see kind of what the numbers look like 156 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: in terms of that. But Jazz is a guy that 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: came in and there were questions about his makeup, if 158 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: you will, and how he was going to mess with 159 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: the clubhouse. They all love him. It worked out great. 160 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: He brings that sort of athleticism that this team desperately needed. 161 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 1: He's got good pop. He's got a little edge to him. 162 00:07:51,840 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: I think he's an irritant for other teams, Like if 163 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: he is not on your team, you hate him, but 164 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: when he's on your team, you love him. Kind of 165 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: like Kabaliro honestly. And I think also just his willingness 166 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 1: to just switch positions willy nilly. You know, he was like, look, 167 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: it's not ideal, but I'll still do it to help 168 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 1: the team win. He's a he's kind of got a 169 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Speaker 1: winning attitude. I don't think think it makes a lot 170 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: of sense to move him. It's just for what what 171 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: are you getting back? 172 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 2: You know right now, you were talking about a right 173 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 2: handed bat a little bit earlier today and you brought 174 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: up somebody who I think is very interesting. I'm gonna 175 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 2: put up on screen, and this is Austin Riley, who 176 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: I think if the Braves could undo that two hundred 177 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 2: and ten million dollar contract extension, they probably would, which 178 00:08:32,160 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 2: means you can probably get him for like a decent deal. 179 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 2: It's guy with two sixty. I mean it's not super 180 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: impressive three h nine on base percentage, but I mean 181 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: he's a right handed hitter. He can play third base, 182 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 2: so he can platun with McMahon, right. I mean, this 183 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 2: is a guy who has a little bit of poppy 184 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 2: at thirty seven home runs. A couple of years ago, 185 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 2: he had seven hundred and fifteen at bats that year. 186 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 2: He hasn't done that since. But what are your thoughts 187 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 2: on Austin Riley. 188 00:09:01,800 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: Austin Ridley I think is a really good player. I 189 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 1: do agree with you that I think the Braves may 190 00:09:05,800 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: have given him a contract that overvalues him a little bit, 191 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: but that's just because the Braves give out these ridiculous 192 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: team friendly contracts. I mean, Ronald Accouny is making like 193 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: less than ten million dollars right now. I don't know 194 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: about a platoon situation. I think that's that would be 195 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: a really expensive platoon situation for two guys to play third. 196 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: McMahon making fifteen and I think Riley's making close to twenty. 197 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: But he is a really good player. He's a pretty 198 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: a little bit less than average fielder, and he's kind 199 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: of battled some injuries a little bit. But you know 200 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: a lot of red in his savant. There's got good exit. 201 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 1: Ve low hits the ball hard, let me throw the sek. 202 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:44,320 Speaker 2: Do you think that the Braves would take back McMahon. Yeah, 203 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: I was about to say that, because like you could offset, Yeah, 204 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 2: you could all set some of the salary there, you know, 205 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: like the Yankees are taking on way more money than 206 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 2: they're giving up. I mean in the short term, Yeah, 207 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 2: the Braves would have to pay for a player who's 208 00:09:57,400 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 2: you know, probably not gonna help them that much and 209 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 2: Ryan McMahon, but you know, Riley could be a better 210 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: fit for the Yankees long term at third base. 211 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree with that. I think that it would 212 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: be one of those situations where you know, I'll take 213 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: your problem for my problem, even though I don't really 214 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: think it's a problem, but just in that sort of realm, 215 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: I just think that with McMahon, it would allow the 216 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: Braves to at least have a third baseman, like a 217 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,839 Speaker 1: major league third basement until they're ready to kind of 218 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: pivot into whatever their future is. I don't know what 219 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 1: they have in their system, but I think for Riley 220 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: it does make a lot of sense for the Yankees. 221 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: You talk about again, they're a little bit too left handed, 222 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 1: and you're flipping a left handed bat for a right 223 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:36,760 Speaker 1: handed bat. If you look at Austin Riley's previous seasons. 224 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: He's had some really really good years. Two three years ago, 225 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: he was a better defenseman, I think. Funny enough, I 226 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: noticed that when Ron Washington was with the Braves, he 227 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: was a way better defender than he is now. And 228 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 1: that's a guy that got picked up again. And I've 229 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 1: been screaming from the hilltops that I wanted the Yankes 230 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: to pick him up as a pick a third base coach, 231 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: and they just never do. I don't get it. Everybody's 232 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 1: defense always improves when he is the they're like third 233 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: base coach or their infield coach or whatever. You see 234 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 1: the drills on YouTube that he would do, and he's 235 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: kind of a defensive wizard. So I think that it's 236 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: a little bit of like the talents there, you just 237 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: kind of have to unlock it. 238 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with you one hundred percent. Somebody else 239 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 2: that you brought up now, this is Johann Mancata. He 240 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: is a switch hitter, and I've heard some things, some 241 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 2: rumblings behind the scenes from some of the people that 242 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,319 Speaker 2: I've talked to, you know, that used to play in 243 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 2: the major leagues, that he doesn't really like baseball all 244 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: that much, that he's kind of like one of these, 245 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 2: you know, Anthony Rendon type of players, or like Jacoby 246 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 2: Elsberry or or Carl Pavano, where any excuse to get 247 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: out of playing, he will use it. Now he still 248 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: does barrel the ball up pretty good and he still 249 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 2: draws walks. This guy was a super prospect at one point, 250 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 2: like I wanted. This guy's an international prospect more than anything. 251 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: He ended up going to the Red Sox and they 252 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,079 Speaker 2: moved him as part of the Chris Saale acquisition, and 253 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: he's bounced around a little bit. Still just thirty years old, 254 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: but not a good fielder. I'm not super high on 255 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: Yowan Mancata. He wouldn't be my first pick. I do 256 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: want to bring up Miguel and Dohar. We've talked about 257 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,760 Speaker 2: him a little bit. I think he slots in nicely 258 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: because you know, he can play left field, and he 259 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 2: would be like Platoon Price basically with Dominguez. He's somebody 260 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 2: that fans like. You know, he was excitable. I mean, 261 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: he's a clubhouse chemistry type of guy. Obviously got got 262 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,719 Speaker 2: along well with Judge, but he also had some complaints 263 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,959 Speaker 2: with the team that he wasn't playing as much and 264 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 2: he had rumbled about wanting to possibly be traded and 265 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 2: so forth. But he hit three eighteen with ten home 266 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 2: runs in three hundred and twenty one at bats last year. 267 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:43,640 Speaker 2: Obviously much better against lefties, still got a good arm. 268 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts on Miguel and Dohar. 269 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's kind of valid for him to 270 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: complain about playing time. You know, he kind of burst 271 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: on the scene in twenty eighteen, almost wins Rookie of 272 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,120 Speaker 1: the Year, hits like two ninety seven, breaks the the 273 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: doubles record for the franchise record, and then gioe Orchella 274 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: kind of comes up and that's it. He's done, which 275 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: I think was like a little bit unfair. You know, 276 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: the Yankees, they didn't really have a place for him 277 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: to play. But I feel like in that sense, it's 278 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: kind of you know, this this goes back, dude, This 279 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 1: is like classic Yankees in the Judge era. This goes 280 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: back to everyone talks about there's that joke or Trek Skouble. 281 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: I'll give you Clint Frazer and Miguel a Duhar for him, 282 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 1: because that's what everybody was saying at the time, like 283 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: we don't have somewhere for these guys to play, so 284 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: trade them. And that's kind of what's happening with Spencer 285 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: Jones and Jason Dominguez right now. Watch in five years 286 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: will be saying the same joke. But I understand why 287 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,680 Speaker 1: he was annoyed, and you better have a role for 288 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,680 Speaker 1: him if he comes back. He's a guy or look, 289 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 1: is it a flashy name? Not really doesn't strike out 290 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: a lot, okay fielding, He has good arm strength, but 291 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: he can't really feel that well. But I mean, what 292 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,439 Speaker 1: I'd be upset about it? No, But the only thing 293 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: I would be upset about is like he comes back 294 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: and he's already in the same kind of bench platoon 295 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: sort of situation, Like this is a guy who should 296 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: be a starter for He was just on the Reds, 297 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: but he should be a starter on a team like that, 298 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: and he's earned that. I think it'd be a bit 299 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: unfair to be like, hey, come back and sit the bench, dude. 300 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 1: He'd be upset. 301 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,040 Speaker 2: So I'm gonna bring up the trade board that I 302 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 2: had with Frankie Baseball the other day. I mean, just 303 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 2: some notable names. This is from spot track. You know 304 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: they had Fernando tattoos. We've talked about him at length 305 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 2: we would both love it, but it seems a little 306 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: bit unrealistic. Severino is somebody you brought up at the 307 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 2: trade deadline, you know what. I like Severino, but I 308 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,200 Speaker 2: think he's one of these guys that is gonna be 309 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 2: a starter and once everybody's healthy for the Yankees, I 310 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 2: would he would have to move to the bullpen. I 311 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 2: don't think he wants to do that. We've seen some 312 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 2: Sandy Alcantara rumors out there. I'll tell you what. He 313 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 2: looked good towards the end of the season. There his 314 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: his fastball look. I was hoping they would pick him 315 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: up at the deadline, like his his stuff was looking 316 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 2: all the way back. Alec Boom, what are your thoughts 317 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: on Boom? 318 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: Alec Bowm. I think is a I kind of see 319 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: it as another one of those guys that does he 320 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: love baseball. I think I kind of questioned that with 321 00:15:06,640 --> 00:15:10,760 Speaker 1: him too. There was that little thing where he was 322 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: he I don't know, he made like an error in 323 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: Philly and they were booing him, and then somebody read 324 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: his lips and he was kind of saying, like f 325 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,160 Speaker 1: this place or something like that. 326 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 2: I mean to. 327 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: Be fair, you know, if you know fifty thousand people 328 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 1: were booing you would you kind of react the same way, probably, 329 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: But I'm kind of like whatever I think with him. Again, 330 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: doesn't strike out a lot, he doesn't walk a lot, 331 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: but the fielding is really just not there. It wouldn't 332 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: be a name that would really move me at all. 333 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: There aren't like a whole lot of names. Honestly, the 334 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 1: only name, Derek that's I love this is Donaldson available. 335 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: That's Art vandalaight Donaldson available. But really, Derek, I'm gonna 336 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: just sit here and say I don't really think the 337 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,239 Speaker 1: Yankees are gonna do that much. And it's really frustrating 338 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: and disappointed to say, but I think it goes back 339 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,440 Speaker 1: to what is movable on this team. Not much. And 340 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: if they're talking about they want to stay under the 341 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: three hundred million dollars threshold, what are you really going 342 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: to sign out there? 343 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is one of the situations where like a 344 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: lot of the bad contracts are coming back to bite them. 345 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you're still paying Lemayhew, right, I mean they're 346 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 2: still paying for guys who are not on the club anymore. 347 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 2: You're paying too much for Ryan McMahon. So they put 348 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,479 Speaker 2: themselves in this situation, and if there is any upside 349 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 2: to the Yankee spending, they do have some names coming 350 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: off the books in the next few years, right, And 351 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 2: when they have that kind of situation coming up. In 352 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 2: the past, they have wasted no time, Like as soon 353 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: as a Rod's big contract was over, they went out 354 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 2: and got John Carlos Stanton, right, Like, they're not afraid 355 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,960 Speaker 2: to commit money because they're going to continue to make money. 356 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:55,560 Speaker 2: But you wonder, you know, is the looming like lockout 357 00:16:55,680 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: slash strike affecting you know, is Hall trying to artificially 358 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 2: keep his payroll down so he could be like, look, 359 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: we can't even afford to play in this ballpark because 360 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: you know, we got to pay this big bill and 361 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,000 Speaker 2: you know, we got to keep these salaries under control. 362 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: I mean, do you think that there's any of that? 363 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,760 Speaker 2: Are you buying into conspiracy theories? 364 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: Dude? Crime me at river? If he sold the Yankees tomorrow, 365 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: they'd probably sell for over ten billion dollars, Like I 366 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: agreat stop. You know, I don't want to hear it. 367 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it because Hal spends money. Like, 368 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: let me be clear, he's consistently in the top five 369 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: if not top three in the league in terms of payroll. 370 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: It's really comes down to is your money being spent wisely? 371 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 1: And that falls on Brian Cashman in the front office. 372 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: We've said it, chapter and verse. But when you're giving, 373 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, Ryan McMahon sixteen million dollars this year and 374 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: next year, and Stanton is barely hitting his own weight. 375 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:50,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's had big moments in the playoffs obviously, 376 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,600 Speaker 1: and he's been solid, but you know, he's making what 377 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 1: twenty nine this year, twenty five next year and then 378 00:17:56,119 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: he has a buyout. The only move to me, the 379 00:17:59,160 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: Soto move, if you will, of this winter, is trading 380 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: for Fernando Tatis if he's going to be available, and 381 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: then if the Yankees have the assets to get him. 382 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,320 Speaker 1: I don't know, if you know, I'm sure the Red Sox, 383 00:18:08,400 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: the Mets, the Blue Jays, like you know, the Dodger. 384 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: Actually he hates the Dodters. You wouldn't go there. But 385 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,919 Speaker 1: like any any team with assets is going to be interested, obviously, 386 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: But to me, Fernando Tatis is the only only move 387 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna be splashy enough and get the juice and 388 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,639 Speaker 1: the fan base going enough where if this off season. 389 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: Is you brought back Krisham on a qualifying offer and 390 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:34,879 Speaker 1: you got like a bullpen arm or two fire Brian Cashman, 391 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: Knight's gonna be Opening Day. That's me. 392 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: I said the same thing. So, you know what, It's 393 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: funny I think about every year, like who's gonna be 394 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 2: that guy that we can't wait to see them working 395 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 2: out in Pins writes for the first time. We can't 396 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:49,119 Speaker 2: wait to see him strolling into camp, you know, with 397 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,919 Speaker 2: the bag from their old team and getting into their 398 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,160 Speaker 2: Yankees gear. And right now, I mean, who's that guy, 399 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: Ahmed Rosario? Is he gonna be our big off season acquisition? 400 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: React with? I think Fernando tattoos would excite the fan base. 401 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: He's a reasonably priced superstar whose contract will expire in 402 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,639 Speaker 2: his mid thirties. And he's a right handed bat who 403 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,800 Speaker 2: plays the outfield, and he's a good defender, and he's 404 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 2: a good base runner. He's fast, he's got a good 405 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 2: arm like I think he fits in a lot of ways. 406 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 2: And I think that, you know, Michael Kay maybe trying 407 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: to do the same thing that we do, which is 408 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 2: like keep people tuned in, right. 409 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 3: But. 410 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: In this instance, I could see him being right as 411 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: like a splashing move. He is an insider, much more 412 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: so than I am. But I don't think he's getting 413 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 2: this from the team. I think it's more like speculation. 414 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things where it's like 415 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 2: the bosses are like, what are we gonna talk about 416 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 2: with Yankees content today? Oh, let's throw tattoos back out there. 417 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: No. I think it's one of those if they're smoke, 418 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,680 Speaker 1: there's fire. Whi's really probably happening is I think there's 419 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: a lot of smoke in terms of the ownership situation 420 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,560 Speaker 1: in Sandy Diego, and as a result, they may be 421 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:06,359 Speaker 1: trying to offload some bigger contracts on their team. And 422 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 1: since Jackson Merrill kinda emerged for them as another young 423 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: outfield guy for them, I think that maybe they'd be 424 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: a little bit more willing to move on from Fernando Tatis. 425 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,119 Speaker 1: I think they're crazy if they do that. He is 426 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: their franchise player, face of the franchise. If I was 427 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 1: the GM of San Diego, I said, no chance. But 428 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: if he's available, I think if you're the Yankees, you 429 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: got to do everything you can do to acquire him. 430 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: My only thing would be with that it's like, would 431 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: you give up Yeah, I think you'd give up the 432 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: Martian for him. It makes sense. But I wouldn't give 433 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: up the Martian and ben Rice. I'd say, you get 434 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: one of them. You can't have an agree with them. 435 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: I'm okay with I'm okay with trading Dominguez if it 436 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 2: means bringing back Tattis, because Tatis is in his prime. 437 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's gonna be great. He's gonna lock up 438 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 2: left field for a while, right and then you solve 439 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: the right handed bat problem. Now. I don't want to 440 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 2: give up Dominguez for somebody like Steven Kwan, or even 441 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: block him with somebody like Stephen Kuan who just doesn't 442 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:06,480 Speaker 2: bring the war value. So I mean, that's kind of 443 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: where we're we're at right now, guys. I wanted to 444 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: share a couple of things here with with with my 445 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 2: friend Terrence and with the audience. So we got some 446 00:21:14,520 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: new merch here. We got the Split Happens hoodie, which 447 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 2: is now available Nyy Designs Dot Shop. 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We got a couple of voicemails here. 457 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: Let's start with this call about the Cashman interview. 458 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 3: Hey, Derek, this is a joke from Connecticut. We just 459 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,600 Speaker 3: had a couple of thoughts. I've been watching the Brian 460 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 3: Cashman interviews at the Winter meetings on he asked some 461 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 3: of the MLB network and I just think, like this guy, 462 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,679 Speaker 3: he seems like he's in a good mood these interviews, 463 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 3: which is I mean, I mean, I guess that's a 464 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: good thing, but you could just tell the game is 465 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: kind of he is a good GM, but the game 466 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 3: has kind of passed him by, kind of like how 467 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 3: like Bill Belichick with the Patriots, the kind of kind 468 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 3: of just passed him by, you know, Like I think 469 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,119 Speaker 3: he was saying he kind of just thinks the team 470 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 3: is good, but like they don't necessarily like they don't 471 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,160 Speaker 3: want to be great anymore. 472 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 2: I love the call. First of all I do. I 473 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 2: do kind of agree with that last part, where like 474 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:48,760 Speaker 2: they do want to be good, they want to be 475 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:51,119 Speaker 2: in contention, but they don't have that killer instinct like 476 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 2: they had under George. And you know, I think that 477 00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: a lot of I guess the pushback that the organization 478 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: gets about like you know, ah, we missed George. You 479 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: don't necessarily miss like the chaotic like fire the manager 480 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: every five minutes and like throw the team into disarray 481 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 2: and get suspended for you know, you know, doing unscrupulous things. 482 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: But he had that desire to win that was obvious, 483 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 2: like he wore it on the sleeve. And I think 484 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 2: that's what people miss a lot about, you know, the 485 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: exacts we have now. 486 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's I think true. I mean he was also 487 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: a guy that wanted to trade Marian River and Derek 488 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: Jeter and believe it or not, Stick Michael and Brian 489 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:33,879 Speaker 1: Cashman are the ones that talked him out of it. 490 00:23:34,520 --> 00:23:37,640 Speaker 1: So they did to a certain extent kind of save 491 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:39,680 Speaker 1: the dynasty, if you will. But yeah, that was kind 492 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: of washed over. What was the previous, like, you know, 493 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: concept of George Steinbrener of threatening to move the team 494 00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: to New Jersey when when the Mets were good in 495 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 1: the eighties. And it's funny. It goes back to the 496 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: episode of Seinfeld when George gets hired by by the 497 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: Yankees and he's like cussing out George Steinbrener. Same time, 498 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,120 Speaker 1: this was this was previous, you know, hire this man. 499 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: That seems hilarious, but it's previous to the Dynasty. So 500 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,880 Speaker 1: that was the perception of George Stambern or New York. 501 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 1: But I think with with that, it's there's there is 502 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: got to be this sort of happy medium with the 503 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 1: old school way of thinking in the new school way 504 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 1: of thinking, because the game is different now. The game 505 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: is totally different. There are more teams that can spend money, 506 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 1: there are more teams with assets. It's not just the 507 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: Yankees and everybody else now, and the league is definitely 508 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:31,720 Speaker 1: caught up to the Yankees. The thing that I get 509 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:34,880 Speaker 1: annoyed about the most with the with the with the 510 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: with the regime in right now is this sort of 511 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 1: arrogance that it's not the case when I'm like, it 512 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 1: totally is right. You know, they talk about this was 513 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:44,920 Speaker 1: like a couple of years back. I was like, well, 514 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 1: the league is like caught caught up to us. No 515 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 1: leagues surpassed the Yankees at this point. You know, it's 516 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: not just you and the rest of everybody. It's just 517 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 1: that the Yankees are now grouped into the big market 518 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 1: teams and they can spend money just as much as 519 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: the Yankees can. It's just whether or not they spend 520 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 1: money better than the Yankees can. 521 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think they're gonna be over three hundred, 522 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:07,199 Speaker 2: like a few people have said in the comments. But 523 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,200 Speaker 2: you know, as we saw this year, you can lose 524 00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: to a team that has an even lower payroll because 525 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 2: they're constructed better. And that was the case with the 526 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 2: Blue Jays this year. They beat us because they were 527 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: a more well constructed team for less money. So you know, 528 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 2: we got another voicemail here and then we'll wrap it up. 529 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 4: Hey, Derek, just calling in. I just you know, I'm 530 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 4: just I'm just disappointed at Donnie base Pull then get 531 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 4: voted in by that that Triants committee today. I think 532 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 4: he's he's so deserving in his career as a player 533 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,119 Speaker 4: and also even what he's done after that. 534 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was I was disappointed. I was ready 535 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,159 Speaker 2: for him to get in. I was getting amped up 536 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 2: to do a show, and I was gonna celebrate and 537 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 2: all that stuff, but you know, maybe maybe another year. 538 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 2: But in all honesty, his stats don't compare to a 539 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 2: lot of other guys, and he just had too short 540 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 2: of a peak, you know, the injuries unfortunately, Like the 541 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 2: best ability is availability, right, and he was injured a 542 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 2: lot after you know, eighty nine season. 543 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: You know, It's funny though, like I always hear people 544 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,159 Speaker 1: talk about in the immediate least that they can't believe 545 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: that Don Manningly is not in the Hall of Fame. 546 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: They would go, well, when you ask yourself, is Don 547 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: manically a Hall of Famer? Yes, he's a Hall of Famer? 548 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: And I'm almost like, don't you guys vote on this though, 549 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: on the committee? So who's saying no, He's got a bit. Look, 550 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: if this is the weird thing about him, though, is 551 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: that if he played one more season and he won 552 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: a World Series in the last year of his career, 553 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 1: he's in the Hall of Fame. It's just that one season. 554 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: So are we gonna penalize him for I don't know 555 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: for that one. 556 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 2: I don't know about that. 557 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840 Speaker 1: I think it makes a difference just having oh yeah. 558 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 2: Winning a World Series makes a difference, but I mean, 559 00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 2: still he's still Let's say he played one more year, 560 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 2: he hits eight home runs. I mean he hit seven 561 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 2: home runs in his final year, you know, I mean 562 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 2: he gets made another extra one hundred and fifty hits. 563 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 2: I think it. Yeah, well, well agree to disagree. I 564 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 2: you know, it might maybe wins this tenth Gold Glove. 565 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 2: You know, maybe that makes a difference. But you know, 566 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 2: Tino was a big reason they won the division that 567 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 2: year and and didn't have a big postseason that year. 568 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,160 Speaker 2: But anyway, TK, hopefully we get some baseball news tonight. 569 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 2: Hopefully you get some Yankees news again. Thanks for joining. 570 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 2: Everybody like and subscribe. Go get your merch at NYY 571 00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: Designs dot shop. 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