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Speaker 1: Duel more ways to win. Hi, everybody, Welcome to the

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Speaker 1: Colin Cowherd Podcast. I have been out a couple of

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Speaker 1: days because of some physical limitations. I talked about that

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Speaker 1: in my instagrams. Are my first thoughts on the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: I keep till leave in five minutes. Listen. There's been

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Speaker 1: a lot of great athletes. There's a handful of great leaders.

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Speaker 1: And when I watched that game Sunday, my takeaway. Oh,

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Speaker 1: and then there's Tom Brady, and it is different. He's

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Speaker 1: been so good on so many big stages that even

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Speaker 1: other great players absorb his words differently. It's beyond just leadership.

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Speaker 1: It's inspirational. Derek Jeter is a great leader. He didn't

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Speaker 1: get to seventy hitters to hit three forty in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Lebron's a great leader. He never inspired Kyrie Irving to

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Speaker 1: be a great defender. Yet Brady did take the Bucks

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Speaker 1: offensive line considered average before Tommy came to Tampa. Yet

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Speaker 1: by the playoffs it was a dominating front and in

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl allowed only five pressures against the Chiefs defense. Conversely,

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes was pressure thirty eight times. Center Ryan Jensen

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Speaker 1: played at a Pro Bowl level the entire playoffs. Guard

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Speaker 1: Ali Marpett athletic, but Pro Football Focus had him rated

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Speaker 1: twelfth best guard rookie, thirteenth best guard couple years later,

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Speaker 1: guard in the league. Now right tackle Tristan Worse probably

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Speaker 1: the best rookie in the draft. Just watch the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Watch how inspired they played, especially after dog cussing by

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Speaker 1: Brady on Thursday Night football against the Bears. Leadership doesn't

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Speaker 1: knowl was equal inspiration. Leading men don't always translate to

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Speaker 1: elevating all men. It does with Brady. Like nobody thinks

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick was rooting for tom In fact, let's be honest,

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Speaker 1: if Belichick could have chosen the quarterbacks Brady would have

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Speaker 1: faced in the playoffs, he would have said, all right,

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Speaker 1: let him face Breeze again, this time in New Orleans.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, let him face Aaron Rodgers. Make sure

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Speaker 1: it's cold, it's at Lambeaux and Aaron's having a great year,

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Speaker 1: and then give him Mahomes. Yeah, Mahomes, breezes, Rogers, Mahomes,

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Speaker 1: and Brady disposed of all of them. It's been said

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Speaker 1: this week that what Brady did this year was similar

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Speaker 1: to what Lebron has done in his career. Lebron goes

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Speaker 1: to a new team, most important player, he's kind of

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Speaker 1: the best player, GM, inspirational leader. It's true Brady went

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Speaker 1: to Tampa most important player, sort of a GM, recruiting

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Speaker 1: players and leading them. But something beyond what Lebron's done.

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Speaker 1: Brady seemingly motivated guys he doesn't even play with. He

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Speaker 1: was motivating defensive players and special teams and coaches. He

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Speaker 1: yelled at a teammate who was crying in the locker

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Speaker 1: room after the NFC championship. Think about that. Every night

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Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl around eleven PM, Brady was texting teammates,

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Speaker 1: we will win. His presence and confidence became a mandate

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Speaker 1: that his teammates executed and honored. That's beyond leadership. That's

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Speaker 1: the difference between being a talk show host a good

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Speaker 1: a resume. It's not in a box score. The stuff

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Speaker 1: you can't quantify. It's the stuff saber Metrics doesn't understand,

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Speaker 1: and folks, it's the stuff that wins Super Bowls. What

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Speaker 1: you watch Sunday was even beyond John Elway's greatest moment.

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Speaker 1: He couldn't win without Terrell Davis. It was beyond Peyton,

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Speaker 1: Manning and Denver who needed a second year to walk

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Speaker 1: in during a pandemic. All new players, all new city,

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Speaker 1: all new coaches, all new playbook, and slowly calibrate this

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Speaker 1: football team in both sides, special teams, dominant units, suffocating

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Speaker 1: the best offense the NFL has seen in probably a decade.

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Speaker 1: That's not leadership. That's not just leadership. It's the next level.

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Speaker 1: It's inspirational, and it's Brady. A key to lead is

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Speaker 1: host of Catching Fades on the Volume, a five time

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Speaker 1: Pro bowler, won Super Bowl fifty with the Broncos and

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite guests on FS one. He's raw,

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Speaker 1: he's authentic, he's real, and he is joining us now

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Speaker 1: on our podcast, The Volume Sports. All right, keep, let's

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Speaker 1: start with this. It was the worst day of Patrick

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Speaker 1: Colin two weeks to prepare. You know, they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: they didn't have an answer for. When you watched Tampa's defense,

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Speaker 1: domin con sue maybe their third or fourth most valuable

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Speaker 1: then man, they make our job a lot, a lot,

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Speaker 1: That offensive line was considered completely average a year ago. Now,

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Speaker 1: there you've been with Tom. He does have an inspirational

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Speaker 1: feel it's a mandate. You've got to play good with

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Speaker 1: Tom Man. It's it's a it's an aura about him,

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Speaker 1: him saying you hear about him. He's been around so long,

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Speaker 1: So you want to impress him, man. And that's the

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Speaker 1: want to impress him. I was out. I was out

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Speaker 1: I know exactly what you was doing time man, Bill,

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Speaker 1: he bowed. Yeah, when pay and get on somebody, it's

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Speaker 1: By the way, you did, some analysts work for Fox,

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Speaker 1: which is it's really different and it's hard. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to say something every eight seconds. Tell me,

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Speaker 1: tell me about your preparation, how you felt about it?

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Speaker 1: You tell me how do you feel? I felt good.

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Speaker 1: I most of all, I want to I want to

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. I didn't know if I was gonna like

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Speaker 1: straight fan again. Man. Just I'm researching the Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: and the Washington football team like I'll never do no

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Speaker 1: research on those teams ever unless something to play them.

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Speaker 1: So I actually had to study teams. I never study

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Speaker 1: for real like that. And uh, just both sides of

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Speaker 1: because I gotta know both sides. I can't just know

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Speaker 1: I think, man, doing going in that booth and having

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Speaker 1: it just made me an ultimant fan back again, turned

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Speaker 1: I let her return to that booth and do it again.

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Speaker 1: I'd let her do it for a time, and it

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Speaker 1: and all this stuff. I'm tired of waking up. I'm tired, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm just tired. That's why I retired. You're going to booth. Shit,

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Speaker 1: it's probably double to study. And know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: it's double to study. And you don't kill your body

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Speaker 1: out of this that that lived them live reps because

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Speaker 1: we live shit. There ain't no redues or nothing. It's

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Speaker 1: just like the game. We live. So just that rush

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Speaker 1: that I got from that, it was it was satisfying. Man.

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Speaker 1: I love every moment of it. Well, I am so

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Speaker 1: happy that you are part of The Volume. Um your

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Speaker 1: podcast Catching Fades. You're as honest. You tell stories of

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Speaker 1: the team. Go have some fun, get along with your wife.

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Speaker 1: That's the only advice I'm gonna give you. I don't

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Speaker 1: give it advice. I appreciate it, all right, Thanks man, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thank you for having me be a part of this

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