1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,600 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,080 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast Laurie Michael with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: us inspirational Artist, which means she receives the ideas for 4 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: her artwork and writing in very powerful downloads are fully 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 2: informed ideas that she sees in her mind. She believes 6 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 2: these concepts are inspired from her higher self, universal consciousness, God, 7 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:28,840 Speaker 2: and her spirit team. Laurie began receiving communications from the 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: other side back in twenty twelve when her soulmate Mark 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: passed away. Will tell you about that story, confirming her 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: belief that love never dies and in her book Signs 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: surround you. She hopes to her story that you will 12 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: understand her signs in a way that lets you recognize 13 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 2: signs from your loved ones as well. Laurie believes in 14 00:00:50,159 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: her life's purpose is to send positive energy to the world. Laurie, 15 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 2: the world needs your energy. Welcome to the program. 16 00:00:58,560 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Hi, George, thank you so much. Thanks for having me 17 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 3: and I want to thank you for what you're doing 18 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:05,680 Speaker 3: to help raise a vibration of the collective conscious. 19 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 2: It is my pleasure. Indeed, you have an incredible story 20 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 2: with Mark Abrahamian, who was the lead guitarist for the 21 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 2: what was the Jefferson Starship, but it was the Starship 22 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: when he was doing it. He died of a heart 23 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: attack at forty six, right after a concert in Nebraska. 24 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: Tell me about this. 25 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 3: So my meeting with Mark was really unusual because he 26 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 3: was doing a concert with thirty eight Special and Starship 27 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 3: on a weekend that I was actually supposed to be 28 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 3: at a family readingion two states away, but because the 29 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 3: song Miracles is my all time favorite song, I changed 30 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 3: all of our plans. We had my daughter's birthday party 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 3: and I found myself at a thirty eight Special concert 32 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 3: and my son had just started playing guitar, he was 33 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 3: about ten years old, and he pulled out a guitar 34 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 3: pick and asked if we could find a guitarist to 35 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 3: sign his guitar pick, and I wound up meeting a 36 00:02:05,880 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 3: guy who was just giving someone a bathroom break at 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 3: a T shirt stand, and he turned out to be 38 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 3: the concert promoter, and because it was my daughter's birthday, 39 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 3: he gave us backstage passes for that night for thirty 40 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 3: eight Special, which also included backstage passes the next day 41 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 3: for Starship and since I knew for sure we were 42 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: going to meet the band. I looked up everybody bio 43 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: and I discovered that Mark had been a guitar teacher, 44 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 3: and I thought, well, this will be a great opportunity 45 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: to ask him some questions for my brand new guitar 46 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: playing son. And so that's exactly what happened. And when 47 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I connected with Mark, it was a magnetic connection immediately, 48 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: and he told me that I could contact him and 49 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 3: ask him anything and he would be happy to help us. 50 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 3: And so I went home and announced to everybody that 51 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 3: I'm good at building relationships and I'm going to start 52 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: a relationship with him, a friendship, so that maybe year 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 3: when he came back to town, my son could get a 54 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 3: guitar lesson from a real, live rock star. And that 55 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 3: began what was very innocent conversations between the two of us, 56 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: but very quickly turned into something much deeper, where Mark 57 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 3: turned out to be probably my greatest spiritual teacher, and 58 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 3: we had this magnetic connection that was just ineffable. I 59 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 3: feel like sometimes when you meet somebody, you feel like 60 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,240 Speaker 3: you've known them forever, and that's the kind of relationship 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 3: we had. So we were on and off for a while, 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: and then things just didn't work out for us to 63 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 3: be together. At that time. He couldn't move to me, 64 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: I couldn't move to him, and so we just ended 65 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 3: things and I hadn't spoken to him for about three years. 66 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 2: How did you find out? How did you hear that 67 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: he had passed away? After that concert? 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: So one day I was walking at my ponds and 69 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 3: I had this spot that he died, and it seemed 70 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 3: like a ridiculous spot because he was forty six and 71 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 3: healthy as far as I knew. But when we ended things, 72 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 3: I made a very concerted effort not to follow his 73 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: whereabouts or I didn't want to know anything about what 74 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 3: he was doing and where he was. So I hadn't 75 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 3: kept back at him in any way, shape or form. 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 3: And this is back in twenty twelve, so you know, 77 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 3: I just was living my life. He had moved on. 78 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,279 Speaker 3: All I knew was that he was in a relationship 79 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: and I had gotten back together with my husband. But 80 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 3: this spot that I had just seemed ridiculous, so I 81 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,440 Speaker 3: pushed it away, And about an hour later, I was 82 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 3: in the shower washing my hair, and I had a 83 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 3: second thought that he had died in a plane crash 84 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 3: and that his bandmates were going to call me now 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 3: this spot, I didn't push away because I didn't think 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 3: it was my thought. He was a cigarette smoker, so 87 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 3: if I were going to imagine a death scene for him, 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 3: it would have been from one cancer, not from flying, 89 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 3: which I thought was pretty safe. And a couple of 90 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:08,359 Speaker 3: hours later, my dad had gone to work that morning 91 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 3: and there was a CNN ticker on his computer that 92 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: said that Mark had stepped off the stage after a 93 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 3: concert in Norfolk, Nebraska and had a massive heart attack 94 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: and died immediately. And my dad texted me, but I 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:26,359 Speaker 3: did not get the message. And my mom called me, 96 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 3: and somehow it did not ring through on my bluetooth 97 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 3: in my car, and she left me a message, And 98 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 3: when I was waiting for a customer, I noticed this 99 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 3: miscall and this message, and I got a really bad 100 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: feeling that something had happened. But her message didn't make 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,159 Speaker 3: any sense. She was telling me that she was sorry 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:49,440 Speaker 3: and I should just go home and feel my feelings. 103 00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 3: And when I called her, she kind of reiterated this 104 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 3: message and I was like, I don't know what you're 105 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 3: talking about. And she was ultimately the one that delivered 106 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 3: the message that he had died, But I feel like 107 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 3: he was letting me know, even though we hadn't been 108 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:10,840 Speaker 3: connected for the last three years, that he was with 109 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 3: me art and sold because we had that kind of 110 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: a connection. 111 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: Does he continue to stay in touch with you from 112 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: the other side? 113 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:24,480 Speaker 3: Lord? Yes. So he died in twenty twelve, so it's 114 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:29,400 Speaker 3: been eleven years. I've received hundreds of signs from him, 115 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 3: and the first sign that he sent me began about 116 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,599 Speaker 3: four days after he died. 117 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 2: What kinds of signals does he send? 118 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: Well? Because we were so connected in music while he 119 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 3: was alive. He uses music a lot to communicate. So 120 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:51,080 Speaker 3: the first day, the first line I ever got from him, 121 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 3: four days after he died, I got in the car. 122 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,839 Speaker 3: I turned the car on and the radio screen said 123 00:06:57,360 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 3: Jefferson Starship with your love, but there was no music playing. 124 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: The music volume was turned on, but nothing played, and 125 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 3: I wanted to believe that it was a sign from him. 126 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 3: I believed in these types of things. But remember we 127 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,560 Speaker 3: hadn't spoken for three years, so there was a part 128 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: of me that was thinking, why would he still be 129 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 3: connected with me? Even though I still had thought about 130 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,680 Speaker 3: him every day since I had met him, and I 131 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 3: still cared about him, still loved him. I didn't know 132 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 3: if he still would want to reach out to me, 133 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 3: but I got brave and I started pushing buttons on 134 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: my radio, and it didn't matter what I pushed amm 135 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 3: SM Radio, whatever was playing on those stations would play, 136 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 3: but the screen stayed frozen. And although I wanted to 137 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: believe this, I also wanted to explore a rational explanation. 138 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 3: So I called XM Radio and the guy explained to 139 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 3: me that he had never heard of anything like this happening, 140 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: and he offered to reset my radio, and part of 141 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 3: me didn't want him to do that, but I really 142 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: needed to know if this was real, and so I 143 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: let him, and he said it would disappear in my radio, 144 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: would be normal, but it didn't. It stayed stuck with 145 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: them at Jefferson Starship with Your Love, even turning my 146 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: car on and off to run two errands. And then 147 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 3: when I got to my friend's house, and this was 148 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: a friend who had attended every concert I'd ever watched 149 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:24,440 Speaker 3: Mark play in, he walked out, looked at the screen, 150 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 3: waved at the radio, and said high Mark. And when 151 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 3: I came out from my lunch, the radio was back 152 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:33,400 Speaker 3: to normal, and that was the first of the signs. 153 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 3: And because it was so significant, you know, you think 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 3: you're going to remember things forever. But I was also 155 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: wanted to preserve it. And I wasn't a journaler, but 156 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 3: I got a notebook and I wrote down the details 157 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: of this sign, and then as I began to get 158 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 3: more and more signs, I would immediately the same day 159 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 3: I got them, write them down so that I could 160 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,839 Speaker 3: preserve them, so that I wouldn't falsely remember them later 161 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 3: or forget them, you know, completely, because after you're inundated 162 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: with lots and lots of signs, it's hard to keep 163 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: them straight unless you've written them down. 164 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,319 Speaker 2: At this point, Lorie, almost twelve years later, what would 165 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 2: you say is happening? 166 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 3: Well, I think that when our loved ones die, they 167 00:09:20,040 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 3: love us. They're absolutely connected to us. Any thought you've 168 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: ever had, they can hear it, because they're in an 169 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: energy form now and they do not have the limitations 170 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 3: that we have here on earth, and so they can 171 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 3: reach us through all kinds of different means, through electronics, 172 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 3: through sending us a billboard or a license plate. Some 173 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 3: people will find feathers or coins. Some people will here's 174 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 3: something that just reminds them of their loved one. Some 175 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 3: people see animals or birds or insects like butterflies and dragonflies, 176 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 3: And I feel like the loved ones on the other 177 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: side want to get our attention, and they pull out 178 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 3: all the strings to do that, and all we have 179 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 3: to do is the open and listen and watch, and 180 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:15,200 Speaker 3: that's when they'll send you messages that are irrefutable that 181 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: it's actually them. 182 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,280 Speaker 2: As this episode with Mark changed your views about the other. 183 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 3: Side, while I was already on a spiritual journey, I 184 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 3: think what this did for me is it deepened the 185 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,800 Speaker 3: things that I already had. It's one thing to read 186 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 3: about these things. You know, mediums will have books and 187 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,559 Speaker 3: they'll talk about this. People will, you know, write books, 188 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: have stories you can read about in your death experiences 189 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:50,679 Speaker 3: where people have had these interactions with spirit guides and 190 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:53,199 Speaker 3: spirit teens and past away loved ones on the other side. 191 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,880 Speaker 3: But it's something completely different when it happens to you, 192 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 3: and it happens in a way that maybe it's not 193 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 3: just it's one thing, but it's two or three things 194 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 3: at the same time, so that you can't just slough 195 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 3: it off as coincidence, and so yes, I would say 196 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 3: that this definitely changed me and sent me on a 197 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: trajectory that really changed everything about the way my life 198 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 3: is now compared to how it was before he died. 199 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 2: Those who are skeptical about the story or about the 200 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,319 Speaker 2: other side in general, what would you say. 201 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 3: To them, Well, I don't think it's for me to 202 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: convince anybody about something. I think that for people that 203 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,960 Speaker 3: are skeptical, they have to look at what feels right 204 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 3: for them, and maybe not look at it from a 205 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 3: perspective of the mind, but maybe think into a heart 206 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 3: space and see how their heart feels when things like 207 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 3: this happen, and when they hear about things stories like this, 208 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 3: experiences like this that they haven't had. And then if 209 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't feel right, push it away. Maybe you'll come 210 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: back to it later, maybe you never will, but be 211 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: open because there are so many things that happen, and 212 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 3: the more open you become, the more you ask, the 213 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 3: more that you'll start to see things around you that 214 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:19,200 Speaker 3: help you to decide whether something like this is real 215 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:19,520 Speaker 3: or not. 216 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 2: Does he come to you in your dreams as well? 217 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: So he has actually come to me only twice in 218 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 3: the dreams and the first dream I had of him 219 00:12:31,559 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: was so real that I can visibly see it in 220 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: my mind now, even though it happened in twenty twelve, 221 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,600 Speaker 3: and it didn't feel like a dream. It felt like 222 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 3: a visitation. And in that dream, I actually hugged him, 223 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 3: and it didn't feel like a dream hug would feel. 224 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 3: I think a lot of us can relate to what 225 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 3: it feels like when you're in a dream. It actually 226 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 3: felt like a physical hug. But probably the most significant 227 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:04,400 Speaker 3: dream I had wasn't one that he was in it. 228 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 3: It was one where I was given information about him 229 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 3: that I could not have possibly known that I was 230 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 3: able to collaborate with his mom. 231 00:13:13,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 2: Were there other signs, Glorie, that convinces you about what 232 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: the other side is beyond Mark? 233 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,719 Speaker 3: Yes, I mean I've had fines from my passaway grandfather. 234 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: I had a really cool thing that happened with him. 235 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: He had given me one thing when he died. He 236 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 3: left me this hope chest, and it was pretty beat 237 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:38,640 Speaker 3: up because it was built back in the early nineteen hundred. 238 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 2: It was old. 239 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 3: It was really old, one of the early nineteen hundreds. 240 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 3: And one day I was baking cookies and I had 241 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,440 Speaker 3: a thought about it, and I had relegated it to 242 00:13:49,440 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: my closet because it wasn't very attractive, it didn't really match. 243 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 3: And I looked at it and I had this whole 244 00:13:55,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 3: epiphany that I could probably refinish it, and so I 245 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 3: decided I was going to refinish it, and I went 246 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 3: back to baking the cookies, and all of a sudden, 247 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 3: I realized that that date was his birthday. I had 248 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: really never paid much attention to the date of his birth. 249 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 3: We had really recognized more than date that he died. 250 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 3: That was a lot more memorable for me, even the 251 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 3: day he was born. So it was really really shocked 252 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 3: that I had this thought, and I ultimately did refinish 253 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 3: it in his honor, and I felt like he was 254 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,120 Speaker 3: encouraging me. And now it's proudly in a place where 255 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 3: I get to see it every day. It's not in 256 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: the closet anymore. 257 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: Of all the signs that Mark has sent you, which 258 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: is the one that really stands out, Oh my. 259 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 3: Goodness, he has sent me so many, I think the one. 260 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: There are a lot that have a lot of detail 261 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: that take a long time to describe that I talk 262 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:51,120 Speaker 3: about in the book, But I'm going to share a 263 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 3: series of three things that happened that were so interconnected 264 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 3: that I cannot deny that it was him, so because 265 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 3: Mark and I were connected through music. About two months 266 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 3: after he died, I went to my first concert and 267 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,080 Speaker 3: as I was leaving the concert, we were driving home. 268 00:15:09,200 --> 00:15:12,200 Speaker 3: I was with my husband. He was My husband was driving. 269 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 3: That meant he was in control of where we were 270 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: going and the radio, and all of a sudden, I 271 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 3: was just talking to Mark in my head and asking 272 00:15:21,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 3: him if he would have attended this concert with me. 273 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 3: And we stopped behind the car in front of us, 274 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 3: and the car license plate said soulmates, s ol mate. 275 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 3: It was an Illinois plate, and I was shocked. I 276 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:39,760 Speaker 3: took a picture of it, and I began asking him 277 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: is this you? Did you send this to me? And 278 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 3: very quickly the car pulled away. Now, if I had 279 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: been driving, I would have been tempted to stay behind 280 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: that car for as long as I could, But I 281 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 3: wasn't driving. Somebody else was, and the radio station was 282 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 3: also under his control. And then and all of a sudden, 283 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 3: as I'm talking to Mark in my head asking him 284 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 3: with a few as it's you, I looked up and 285 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 3: as the radio began playing Jefferson Starships with Your Love Again, 286 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 3: which was also that fine he sent me on this 287 00:16:13,640 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 3: fourth day after he died. I looked up and that 288 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 3: license plate was in front of me again. And if 289 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: that wasn't enough, fast forward to twenty nineteen, my sister 290 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 3: was visiting, and even though my sister knows all my 291 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 3: stories and had read my book, we were driving to 292 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 3: a concert and I was reminiscing about that first time 293 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 3: when I had gotten this license plate that said Soulmate, 294 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:43,360 Speaker 3: and I am not kidding. Less than one minute after 295 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 3: I finished telling the story, I looked up in the 296 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 3: car in front of me in Arizona had a license 297 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 3: plate that said Soulmate, but it was felled differently. It 298 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 3: was felled s oul m eight. I don't know who 299 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 3: in the world gets the opportunity to be behind two 300 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,240 Speaker 3: cars in two different states, with two different descriptions of soulmates, 301 00:17:06,280 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: and in the right timing to be able to see 302 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 3: a license plate, and especially when I just had finished 303 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 3: telling the story and I just asked Mark if he 304 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 3: was with me in a starship song plate. So when 305 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 3: those things happen and it's two or three different signs 306 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 3: at the same time, I think it's impossible for me 307 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: to just ignore it. It is definitely they're pulling out 308 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 3: the stops to really get your attention and make sure 309 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: that you know. It is absolutely them communicating with you, 310 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: letting you know that they're there. 311 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: Now. Were you're sharing some of these with your husband 312 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: to be or your husband that you remarried? 313 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: I as so well. 314 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 3: So I was. I was. I had met Mark when 315 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 3: I was married and we had decided to get a 316 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 3: divorce after the whole situation had happened, and then we 317 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 3: had gotten back together. So yeah, it was him. He 318 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: knew about it. He knew about this. A lot of 319 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: people in my life knew about the signs, and I 320 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: found that as I would describe these signs and talk 321 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 3: to more and more people about them, people would start 322 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 3: calling me and telling me about signs that they were getting. 323 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 3: And it's almost like my science would confirm their signs, 324 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 3: and their signs would confirm my signs. And I feel 325 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 3: like that's a really great way to support other people 326 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 3: and to also make yours more real. 327 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast am every weeknight at 328 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: one a m. 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