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Speaker 2: of space, and we are going to talk with Tammy

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Speaker 2: Nobles now and her attorney, Brian Claypool, who was with

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Speaker 2: us last week on this story. Tammy's twenty year old daughter,

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Speaker 2: Kayla Hamilton, was raped and murdered by an MS thirteen

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Speaker 2: gang member from El Salvador who got over the border.

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Speaker 2: She's now suing the Department of Homeland Security and the

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Speaker 2: Department of Health and Human Services for one hundred million

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Speaker 2: dollars for their failure to stop him. Never confirmed his identity,

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Speaker 2: never noticed the tattoo on him that signified his membership

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Speaker 2: as I said, rape and kill Kayla Hamilton. Tammy Nobles

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Speaker 2: has been testifying before the House Homeland Security Committee. They're

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Speaker 2: conducting an impeachment inquiry into the Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcis.

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Speaker 2: It's he and Joe Biden who's allowed all this mayhem

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Speaker 2: to occur at the border, and unfortunately Tammy's daughter is

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Speaker 2: one of the victims. Let's get her on now. Tammy,

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Speaker 2: are you there? Yes?

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Speaker 1: And Brian Claypoole you there too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm here, John, Thanks for having us.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Brian, just jump in whenever you feel necessary. Tammy,

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Speaker 2: really really are our deepest sympathies condolences over this whole situation.

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Speaker 1: It's really really awful. I know.

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Speaker 2: Could you just tell us what happens so that the

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Speaker 2: listeners understand what this story is about.

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Speaker 4: March July twenty seven, twenty two, I got it was

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Speaker 4: in the evening and I got a call from the

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Speaker 4: Aberdeen Police Department receiving the news. They called me and

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Speaker 4: told me that that Kleb was involved, you know, it

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Speaker 4: was involved in a homicide, and that they did they

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Speaker 4: did find her, and that was like the worst news

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Speaker 4: that you could ever get about your child, that your

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Speaker 4: child is gone. We found out, we didn't really know

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Speaker 4: too many details until after he was arrested. The murderer

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Speaker 4: was arrested January fifteenth, twenty twenty three, we found out

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Speaker 4: we were like really shocked, like we were surprised.

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Speaker 1: I should point out you live in Aberdeen, Maryland.

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Speaker 4: Kayla did.

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Speaker 1: Kayla did.

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Speaker 2: And so the idea that this guy came all the

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Speaker 2: and showed up in Maryland, it just probably didn't make

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Speaker 4: No, because he was apprehended at the border of March

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Speaker 4: of twenty twenty two in Rio Grande, Texas. He start, yeah,

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Speaker 4: he came from Oul Salvador and came into Texas and

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Speaker 4: then ended up being in the same trailer as Kayla.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean, the same trailer Sat Trailer Park, John.

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Speaker 4: Trail nome, the same trail.

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Speaker 3: They were roommates. That so so so this so d

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Speaker 3: the border. And obviously they catastrophically failed too, because they said, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's got a sponsor right all the way in Maryland

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Speaker 3: And the file that Jim Jordan for the investigation, the

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Speaker 3: That's how the murder occurred.

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Speaker 1: Oh I see wow, Oh yes, terrible, terrible and.

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Speaker 3: And Tammy, why don't why don't you share with the viewer,

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Speaker 3: for share with the listeners what he gives your daughter?

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Speaker 4: Yes. So after he left the sponsor, he ended up

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Speaker 4: She rents out this room to this minor. MS thirteen

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Speaker 4: That morning, Kayla got off the night shift. She worked

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that that's really horrible.

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Speaker 2: And he had, Brian, if I remember what you said

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so John J just CR listeners are aware

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Speaker 3: aware that this guy is lethally dangerous, right, So then

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Speaker 3: pretty simple. You lift the shirt of these miners trying

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Speaker 3: By lifting his shirt up, they see he has an

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Speaker 3: Kayla would live to have child and she would live

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Speaker 2: Hang on, we're talking with Brian Claypool, the attorney here

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Speaker 2: in southern California. His client Tammy Nobles, the mother of

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Speaker 2: a twenty year old Kayla Hamilton. Kayla was strangled to

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Speaker 2: Tammy is suing the Department of Homeland Security, Department of

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Speaker 2: easily could have confirmed that he was a dangerous gang member.

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Speaker 2: We come back on a talk to Tammy further. She

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Speaker 2: testified to the House Homeland Security Committee over what happened

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorcis.

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Speaker 1: So she's next.

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Speaker 2: to continue with Tammy Nobles. Her daughter, Kayla Hamilton was

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Speaker 2: terrible story. And now Tammy, the mother is has testified

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Speaker 2: before the House Homeland Security Committee. It is part of

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Speaker 2: Let's get Tammy on here. Tammy, Yeah, So what was

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Speaker 4: I was nervous, but then I was also looking forward

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Speaker 2: I mean, did you get any pushback from the Democrats

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Speaker 4: Yes, it was very frustrating. Here I am sharing my

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Speaker 4: and they were on their phones. They wouldn't look at

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Speaker 1: They were on their phones. They were on their phones.

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Speaker 2: And not looking at your daughter's photo, your daughter, that story.

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Speaker 2: She was strangled and then she was raped, and they

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Speaker 4: Seriously, Yeah, I'm serious. And they also didn't say her name.

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Speaker 1: This is the Homeland Security Committee.

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Speaker 2: Yes, what kind of psychopaths are on that committee?

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Speaker 1: Two it's horrible.

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Speaker 3: Hey, John, just real quick, Yeah, exactly. I just learned

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Speaker 3: this for the first time. It's absolutely just staggering. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the members of that committee are are just about as

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Speaker 3: I'll leave you my final thought on this. Three days

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Speaker 3: these members of these Democratic members of the subcommittee and

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Speaker 3: a one way ticket to heaven at age twenty. It's unimaginable.

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Speaker 1: That's that's just shocking.

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Speaker 2: I just called up the I'm gonna when we come back,

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Speaker 2: I'm going to list the names of these Democratic congressmen

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Speaker 2: and congresswomen. And none of them did any of them

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Speaker 2: look at you. Did any of them look at Kyla's.

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Speaker 4: Picture, Not that I know of. And some of the

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Speaker 4: things that they brought up. Was one that really angered

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Speaker 4: my husband was when one of them said about Americans

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Speaker 4: committing crimes on Americans. And that is when I actually

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Speaker 4: was when I got to be able to say something.

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Speaker 4: I said, I know Americans commit crimes and other Americans,

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Speaker 4: but why do we need other countries criminals in our country.

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Speaker 1: That's that's just terrible. Tammy.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for coming on and sharing your story, and

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Speaker 2: we will continue to cover this case and talk with

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Speaker 2: you again at some point. Thank you, thank you very

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Speaker 2: much for coming.

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Speaker 4: On, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Brian, talk against John you know who's on this committee.

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Speaker 2: Democrat Lou Correa. Remember that guy from Orange County. I

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Speaker 7: Hey, JN. And can you believe it? We're talking about

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Speaker 2: None of it was about the burglars or the brown van.

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Speaker 7: is watching more true crime and listening to more podcasts

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Speaker 7: and paying more attention, we all want the smoking gun.

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Speaker 7: There was only a hare that had mitochondrial DNA in

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Speaker 7: a pair of fliers in his fishing boat that nobody

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Speaker 7: knew about in the warehouse. That was the smoking gun,

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Speaker 7: so to speak. But it was all the circumstantial evidence,

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Speaker 7: which still counts that he's got that mound of evidence.

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Speaker 1: Still, I've got to go, all right.

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Speaker 7: Editions project wants this opened up, and we'll all right.

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Speaker 2: Well, all right, we'll just keep rolling with it. I

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Speaker 2: guess before before you go. You want to hear a

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Speaker 2: little clip of the Bullharn moment.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, yes, Eric, nobody believes you.

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Speaker 1: Nobody.

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Speaker 2: The Public Health rade was growing, and if it had

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Speaker 2: a voice, it might have been this radio shock job.

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Speaker 1: I'm a reporter from San Francisco.

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Speaker 4: And it's bad journalist.

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Speaker 1: I'm a talk show host. It's not a papist journalist. Besides,

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Speaker 1: did you get the truth out of him yet?

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Speaker 6: Sorry?

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Speaker 1: This has been bad journalism. We apologize. Scott were asking

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Speaker 1: points of questions about all the.

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Speaker 4: I you've told.

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Speaker 1: That was from a documentary.

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Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, wow, Yeah, that happened. I was standing

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Speaker 7: right now there, I was standing, Ashley. I was standing

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Speaker 7: I think across the street. I started backing away.

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Speaker 2: You were highting, which you should have been. All Right, Laura,

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Speaker 2: good talking with you, Thank you for having.

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Speaker 7: To talk to you. All right, we'll talk to you

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Speaker 7: all right.

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Speaker 2: War Angel from News Nation, which is a great new

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Speaker 2: cable news channel, and I used to work here at

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Speaker 2: KFI covered the Scott Peterson case and apparently that case

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Speaker 2: is never going to end.

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Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM.

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Speaker 2: Six forty coming up after three o'clock, we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk to Eric Sadal. Eric Saidal is one of the

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Speaker 2: deputy district attorneys running against George Gascone. He's also vice

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Speaker 2: president of the of the association at La County District Attorneys,

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Speaker 2: and he was involved in that debate last week, and

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Speaker 2: we talked about this at length earlier in the show.

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Speaker 2: The Ethnic Times has come out with an endorsement of

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Speaker 2: George Gascon can't make this stuff up. Earlier in this

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Speaker 2: half hour, we talked with Tammy Nobles. It was a

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Speaker 2: really painful story to listen to. She's from Aberdeen, Maryland,

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Speaker 2: or at least her daughter was. She also lives nearby.

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Speaker 2: Her daughter was an Aberdeen, Maryland, and she and her

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Speaker 2: boyfriend were renting out a room in a trailer. An

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Speaker 2: illegal alien was also renting out a room in that trailer.

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Speaker 2: He had just come across the border and he was

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Speaker 2: staying there for a few days and he broke into

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Speaker 2: into Tammy Noble's daughter's room, Kayla Hamilton broke into Kayla's

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Speaker 2: room and strangled her to death and then raped her.

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Speaker 1: It's awful story.

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Speaker 2: And so Tammy is suing Homeland Security and suing Health

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Speaker 2: and Human Services for allowing this unidentified illegal alien teenager,

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Speaker 2: for allowing him over the border. He had a MS

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Speaker 2: thirteen tattoo. He was with that violent gang from El Salvador,

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Speaker 2: and he should have been stopped at the border and

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Speaker 2: should have been deported or jailed or something, and he wasn't.

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Speaker 2: And so now there's a lawsuit. Also, Alejandro Majorcis, the

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Speaker 2: Homeland Security Director, is being well, there's an impeachment inquiry

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Speaker 2: going on. So Tammy was telling her story to the

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Speaker 2: House committee that is investigating the possible impeachment charges. This

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Speaker 2: is the House Homeland Security Committee. And Tammy was telling

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Speaker 2: us just how rude the Democrat members of that committee were.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't look at her as she told her story.

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Speaker 2: They wouldn't look at photos of her daughter, Kayla. They

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Speaker 2: were on their phones the whole time, being rude and

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Speaker 2: saying dismissive things. Well, she wasn't the only one who

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Speaker 2: got that treatment. Also getting that treatment was the mother

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Speaker 2: of a fentinyl victim who was testifying about all the

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Speaker 2: sentinel coming over the border. And here's a response from

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Speaker 2: Dan Goldman, Democrat of New York, talking to the mother

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Speaker 2: of the fentinyl victim and scolding her on being used

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Speaker 2: by Republicans.

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Speaker 6: Thank you very much, mister Chairman, and I think our

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Speaker 6: witnesses for being here today, Miss Nobles and Miss Done.

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Speaker 6: I just want to express my sincere condolences. I was

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Speaker 6: a federal prosecutor for ten years who charged people for

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Speaker 6: gang related and drug trafficking crimes. Unfortunately, this is not

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Speaker 6: the time I've had to interact with families of victims,

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Speaker 6: and my heart goes out to you, and I just want,

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Speaker 6: I want to apologize in some ways to you that

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Speaker 6: you are here really to share your story, but you're

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Speaker 6: being used in as a fact witness for an impeachment.

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Speaker 1: Investigation.

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Speaker 6: And obviously, given you know what your experience has been,

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Speaker 6: you don't have the background to understand what a high

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Speaker 6: crime misdemeanor is and how it relates to this. And

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Speaker 6: so I hope that you're you're handling that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, You imagine the gall of that guy, the condescension

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Speaker 2: in his voice. You don't have the background to understand.

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Speaker 2: First he tries the fake sympathy. Yes, my heart goes

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Speaker 2: out to you, and I have prosecuted all these kinds

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Speaker 2: of cases. Yeah, uh, And it leads you to defend

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Speaker 2: Alexander Mayarcis for allowing all this mayhem. Do you know,

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Speaker 2: he knows, he knows how many thousands and thousands of

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Speaker 2: Americans have died from fen andel overdoses. How many teenage

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Speaker 2: kids have died because they thought they were getting a pill,

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Speaker 2: you know, an adderall pill or a percocet pill and

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Speaker 2: it turned out to be fentonel and they died.

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Speaker 1: He knows.

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Speaker 2: And it's all from the border policy. It's all from

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Speaker 2: the border policy. She's being used. No, No, Her story

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Speaker 2: is why may Arcis should be impeached, while Biden should

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Speaker 2: be removed from office, and why this policy should.

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Speaker 1: Be should be shut down immediately.

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Speaker 2: I mean, and then you come out it's the same

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Speaker 2: committee that was being rude to Tammy Dobliss over the

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Speaker 2: rape and murder of her daughter. I've heard that so

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Speaker 2: many times from these about these progressive Democrats. You have

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Speaker 2: a terrible story to tell the committee, and they don't

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Speaker 2: have the respect to listen to your story.

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Speaker 1: They may disagree with.

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Speaker 2: The policy that's being debated, but at least have the

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Speaker 2: respect to listen to the grieving mother. And they don't anymore.

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Speaker 2: I hear this goes on at City Council all the time.

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Speaker 2: They stare at their phones. They shouldn't be on their

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Speaker 2: phones during a hearing. They should be listening to the witnesses,

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Speaker 2: especially the ones whose children died. And that is the

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Speaker 2: sign of a psychopath. Would you do that if you

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Speaker 2: were sitting on a committee, would you be staring at

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Speaker 2: your phone while some mother is pouring her heart out

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Speaker 2: about her dead son or dead daughter because of the

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Speaker 2: policies that you could stop. Congress could stop these policies.

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Speaker 2: The President's certainly good, but they don't psychopaths. No other

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Speaker 2: explanation for it. All right, We're going to talk with

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Speaker 2: Eric Saiddaal coming up. He's another strong candidate for La

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Speaker 2: County District Attorney and he was in the debate last

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Speaker 2: week against George Gascon. He works for George Gascone. He's

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Speaker 2: also the vice president of the Prosecutors Union, basically the

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Speaker 2: association of La County District Attorneys. And he'll be talking

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Speaker 2: to us next Oh and it's going to be an

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Speaker 2: Instagram live special.

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Speaker 1: How about that? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yay? John Cobalt Show, Debra Mark Live in the KFI

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Speaker 2: twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to the

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Speaker 2: John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always hear the show

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Speaker 2: live on KFI Am six forty from one to four

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Speaker 2: pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, anytime on

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