1 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: At about nine years old, I wanted to be a 2 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: jewel thief, an international jewel thief. I wanted to go 3 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,599 Speaker 1: to Monaco in the south of France and hit these 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: beautiful homes and acquire some of these riceless diamonds and sapphires. 5 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: So here's the deal. I'm watching a movie, and this 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: movie gripped me. It was the Mystery of Mister X. 7 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: And in that movie they talk about a second storyman, 8 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:42,200 Speaker 1: and I'm like a second story man. So they enter 9 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: on the second floor through a window so that you're 10 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: not caught going in and out of the front door. 11 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 1: You're not even going to be seen. So I started 12 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: practicing going through our kitchen window, and then I moved 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: on to the back of the house because I thought 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: if I try to go through my bedroom window on 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 1: the front of the house. So we had a lot 16 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: of neighbors in the seventies that would come over and 17 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: stop you or call your mama. So I got the 18 00:01:05,800 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: ladder and I propped it on the house, and I'm 19 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: going to go through that second floor window. Well, I 20 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: learned pretty quickly a couple of things. One, the ground 21 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: in the backyard was a little bit uneven and I 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 1: didn't like not having a floor under me, So I decided, 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to be pretty adept at disguises because I'm 24 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: gonna have to go through the front door so that 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: when I go to these lavish parties. Because that was 26 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: my idea, that's when I would hit these houses. During 27 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:36,400 Speaker 1: these parties they wouldn't know, or if they were taking 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 1: a month long vacation to Monico, were somewhere or the 29 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: south of France, that's when I would burglarize the home. 30 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: I had a lot of ideas about the type of 31 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 1: criminal that I would be. I never did it. I 32 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: didn't even have the guts to go through the second 33 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: floor window. But our guest tonight, the unrivaled Georgia Duranty. 34 00:01:57,440 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: Her life is not just the stuff made of movies, 35 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: but Oscar winning blockbuster movies. Here's one thing that was 36 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: said about her. I spent a lifetime chasing gangsters out 37 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: of the lives of decent people. Georgia chase them out 38 00:02:16,240 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: of her own life by herself. Bill Fleming, special Agent 39 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: retired Federal Bureau of Investigation. My grandmama would say, Oh, 40 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: she's lived several lives in one She's been a model. 41 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: She was a getaway driver for the mob been a wife, 42 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: a mama, a Hollywood stunt car driver, and author of 43 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: the award winning book The Company She Keeps help me. 44 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: Welcome the one and only Georgia Duranti. 45 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, Hi, Sheryl. I've been waiting a long time to 46 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 2: talk to you. 47 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: It has been so long I have wanted to highlight 48 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: you and showcase you and brag on you. You have no 49 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: idea what this means to me for you to be 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: here on Zone seven. I'm gonna get right to at Sugar. 51 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: You were a renegade from Jump Street, So tell us 52 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: what happened when you were just twelve years old. 53 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 2: I was a tomboy, and you know what would have 54 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 2: I would have joined a posse going in any direction 55 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 2: as long as there was danger and excitement, And I 56 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,160 Speaker 2: ended up the railroad tracks ran behind my house, and 57 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: I decided I wanted to see where that train was going, 58 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: so I jumped the train. It was box was at 59 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 2: a box car, and I made it as far as 60 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 2: Buffalo before the passing train. The conductor saw me and 61 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: he radio to the conductor of the train I was 62 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 2: on and told him he had a passenger. So there 63 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 2: was a police car waiting for me, and that was 64 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 2: the first time I actually rode in a police car 65 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 2: and they drove me back home. 66 00:03:57,320 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: I just love that statement. That's the first time I 67 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: rode please car. It's also the first time you met 68 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: a rat. Somebody ratted you out instead of mine in 69 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: their own business. 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: That's right. 71 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 1: But I will say, because this is a podcast and 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: I will post photographs, but you are beautiful. You are stunning. 73 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: So at age seventeen, you gave up the box car 74 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 1: live and the hobo life. And what did you do 75 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: at seventeen? 76 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 2: I actually started modeling when I was twelve years old, 77 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: and it was really against my wishes. I was a tomboy. 78 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: I didn't want to put address on, but my mother 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 2: brought me to this to Kodak as I was in Rochester, 80 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 2: New York. At Kodek was the you know, the place 81 00:04:42,000 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: back then, and I started modeling, and by the time 82 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: I was seventeen, I was considered the most photographed girl 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: in the country basically because of Kodak, and I became 84 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 2: the Kodak Girl, and that was the life size poster 85 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 2: that was in all the drug stores and camera shops 86 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 2: all over the world. And when that poster came out, 87 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 2: so it was nineteen sixty eight, and they do it 88 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 2: like a year ahead of time. By the time it 89 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:17,320 Speaker 2: came out, I was nine months pregnant. I would stand 90 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 2: by the poster in a store and say, hey, this 91 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 2: is me, and they'd look at me like, yeah, sure 92 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:22,760 Speaker 2: it is right. 93 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: That's awesome. So you did love danger. You wanted to 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: be around excitement. And your dad was a golf probably 95 00:05:34,120 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: at a golf course that had very small, narrow bridges 96 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: that you could not resist. 97 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 2: Oh yeah. He had a fleet of these golf carts 98 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 2: and you know, and he was training me to, you know, 99 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 2: to golf on the women's tour. But as soon as 100 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 2: I got past the first hole where he couldn't see me, 101 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 2: I just tear down those those fairways and you know, 102 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: I mean, and there was there was these little bridges 103 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 2: that you know, you pull your cart across. They weren't 104 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: built for the electric carts. But I got out and 105 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,160 Speaker 2: I measured. I measured the wooden bridges, and I had 106 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: maybe half an inch to spare, and I knew if 107 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 2: I got it just right, I could make it well. 108 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:19,160 Speaker 2: I destroyed half his fleet before I got it perfected. 109 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 2: And now my father always said, I want ten percent 110 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 2: of all your action because I paid dearly for your education. 111 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 2: And he would hide the keys from me, you know, 112 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:31,040 Speaker 2: because I would I would call my friends in the 113 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,160 Speaker 2: middle of the night and we would have drag races 114 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 2: down the fairways at two o'clock of the morning. And 115 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: he could never figure out, you know, why all his 116 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: cards were just all smashed up, So he started hiding 117 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: the keys. And when I couldn't find the keys, and 118 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: I started to hot wire the golf carts and continued 119 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 2: doing our little thing on the fairways. 120 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about hot wire and a car, 121 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: I mean, is that not foreshadowing? But y'all hang out. 122 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: We're not there yet. We're going to go in order 123 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: because there's so many things that you know, you were 124 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 1: a part of that was just in your blood. I mean, 125 00:07:09,279 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 1: you didn't stop at drag race and golf cart sugar. 126 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: I mean you drag raced for real and won your 127 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: very first race ever by a car length. Come on, now, 128 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: well that was it. 129 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 2: I was hanging around a bunch of guys that were 130 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 2: building cars. That's how I really got into the car thing. 131 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: And uh, you know, I'd hand them their tools and 132 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 2: you know, and then they would race the cars on 133 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: the weekend, and you know, and I was just itching 134 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: to do that. So they gave me a shot. They said, 135 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 2: all right, you know, now you do this race. So anyway, 136 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 2: I was racing against a twenty year old and uh, 137 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,960 Speaker 2: and I beat them. I mean here, I was only 138 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: like sixteen years old, and I beat them, and then 139 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 2: they put me on the roster every weekend. It was 140 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 2: really fun. It was really fun. But that's where that's 141 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 2: where I really got my thing for fast cars. You know. 142 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: But You're live was not void of tragedy. Tell us 143 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: about your brother in law. 144 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I had a brother in law that he was 145 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: very well, more so insecure than anything else. His wife 146 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 2: wanted to leave him and he could not deal with it. 147 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 2: So she had taken the kids and went to see 148 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 2: her sister in Pennsylvania and when he came. When she 149 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: came back, he had he had put a sign on 150 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: the door welcome home. He was going to kill himself 151 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,880 Speaker 2: and leave himself as soon as she opened the door 152 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: and saw his body on the floor, But then he 153 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: decided not to and she came home and he ended 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 2: up shooting her, her four children, and then he shot himself, 155 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 2: killed the whole family. And I was in a very 156 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: abusive relationship at the time, and I'm standing in that 157 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 2: cemetery surrounded by six caskets, knowing how close I was 158 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 2: to dying that same death. It was. It was very said, 159 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,839 Speaker 2: but it made a It really made a mark on me. 160 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: I would imagine for you the reality of your situation. 161 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: I knew I had to get out, and how she 162 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 2: ended up getting murdered is because she tried to get out. 163 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: I had to really plan it where you know, he 164 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: couldn't find me and I could. I could make that 165 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 2: break where I know that he wouldn't be right on 166 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: my towel. 167 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 1: You know, domestic violence, there has got to be a plan. 168 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: It cannot be just off the cuff because it will 169 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: fail nine times out of ten. 170 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 2: And you know what I have. When my book came out, 171 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 2: I had so many women email me and say that. 172 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 2: In fact, I had a woman that worked at a 173 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 2: radio show and she sent me an email. My book 174 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 2: was there because I had done a show there, and 175 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: she brought it home and she said, if I had 176 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 2: not read this book, she said, I wouldn't be here 177 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 2: to be writing you today. She said, I planned to 178 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: kill myself this weekend, but after reading your book, if 179 00:09:59,840 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 2: you you can do it, I can do it. And 180 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: she signed her name with a small and her name 181 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: was Nicole. And the first thing I did was is 182 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,680 Speaker 2: email her back and say the first thing you have 183 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: to do is capitalize your name, and then you're going 184 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 2: to get some self esteem. But people, you know, they 185 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: were asking me, how do I do this? How do 186 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: I do that? I'm not a psychiatrist. All I can 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: do is tell them my story and what I did. 188 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 2: But that may not be right for that person, you know. So, 189 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 2: but it took me into you know, speaking in prisons 190 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 2: and use women's shelters. It just took me on a 191 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 2: whole different path. 192 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: But your story from tom Boy to author, it does 193 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: show them that it might take some tom It may 194 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:51,080 Speaker 1: not work the first time. You may leave and you 195 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 1: may go back. You may leave again. You may go back. 196 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 1: You know you've got children to protect, and you know 197 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 1: your parents are there and your siblings are there. You know, 198 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 1: it takes I think, not just a plan, but sometimes 199 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: this you have got to be the one to understand 200 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: that you got to get out and how you need 201 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: to get out. 202 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 2: But you know, when you're in the situation, you really 203 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: don't see it for what it is, and until you 204 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: get out of it, and it probably takes a good 205 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:20,920 Speaker 2: six months, and then you look back at it and 206 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: then you could say, how the heck did I put 207 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: up with that? You know, But when you're in it, 208 00:11:25,520 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 2: you don't see it like that. 209 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: All right, So let's talk about Sammy G. 210 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 2: When I met Sammy G, I was I was twelve 211 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 2: years old, and this was in Rochester, New York. I 212 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 2: was in a diner with my girlfriend. We were sitting 213 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 2: at the counter. We had ordered French fries and a coke, 214 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 2: and these two guys, they had to be in their 215 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 2: early twenties, came up to us and started hitting on 216 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: us extremely crudely. And Sammy G was sitting in a 217 00:11:55,920 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 2: booth watching this whole thing happen. And he got up 218 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 2: from the booth and came over and grabbed these two 219 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,000 Speaker 2: guys by their shirts, dragged him outside and just beat 220 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: the living hell out of them. And he came back 221 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 2: in and he said, he introduced himself, and he says, 222 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: if you ever need anything, I'm always around, And so 223 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 2: he kind of watched me grow up, you know, and 224 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: I would be getting into these bars at fifteen sixteen. 225 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,439 Speaker 2: I looked a lot older for my age, but he 226 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 2: knew my age and he would nod to the bouncer 227 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: and say it's okay, let her in, and he would 228 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 2: just watch over me, you know. And he became the 229 00:12:33,960 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 2: man in Rochester, New York, kind of like the godfather 230 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: of the area. And then I was raped by my 231 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 2: brother in law and Sammy found out about it, and 232 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 2: he wanted to have my brother in law taken care 233 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: of and I would not. I just I couldn't take 234 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 2: somebody's life, you know. So as soon as I graduated 235 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: from high school, that's when I moved to New York City, 236 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: you know, started out just pursuing my modeling career and 237 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 2: ended up in an after hour club with the same 238 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: kind of guys I just left in Rochester, right and 239 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: for fun, we just we started bartending there at night. 240 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: It was me and my two roommates and I had 241 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 2: just put a drink down in front of this guy 242 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 2: and five feet away from me. He pulls out a 243 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: gun and he shoots the guy next to him. The 244 00:13:25,200 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: guy falls on the floor, everybody scatters I was dating 245 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 2: the owner. His name was Frankie, and he threw me 246 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 2: the car keys and he says, Georgia, girl, get the car, 247 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 2: bring it up. They got his body down two flights 248 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 2: of stairs. They threw him in the back seat, and 249 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 2: I'm in the driver's seat now, and I'm like, I know, 250 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: I got to get this guy to the hospital before 251 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 2: he dies. And I would see a cop and I 252 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 2: knew I would have to slow down, And I mean, 253 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,960 Speaker 2: it was just hanging around with these guys. You just 254 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 2: you knew what you had to do, right. So we 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,680 Speaker 2: got to Bellevue Hospital in front of the emergency and 256 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 2: they owe opened the door. They got his body out, 257 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: left him on the sidewalk, jump back in the car, 258 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 2: beep the horn, and we took off. And all they 259 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 2: talked about was, man, Georgie girl, can you drive a car? 260 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Lust whether the guy lived or died? Right, But they 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 2: talked about this for months, you know. And then I 262 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:25,400 Speaker 2: went back to Rochester for a weekend and I run 263 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 2: into Sammy g And Sammy says, Georgia, you got to 264 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 2: do me a favor. And I said, sure, Sammy, what 265 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 2: do you want me to do? And he says, you 266 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 2: got to deliver a message for me. He says, if 267 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: anybody finds out about this, they're going to find my 268 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: body in the Genesee River. He says, I cannot trust anyone. 269 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 2: Will you do this for me? And I said, yeah, 270 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: I'll do it. So anyway, he comes the next day 271 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 2: with a sealed envelope. I still to this day don't 272 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 2: know what was in that ladder. But I flew back 273 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 2: to New York and I was picked up in this 274 00:14:57,560 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: black limousine and they drive me into Brooklyn. And now 275 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: we go into this restaurant and they take me into 276 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: this back room where four guys are sitting, and I'm 277 00:15:08,160 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 2: introduced as Georgia Girl. And this one guy raised his 278 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 2: eyebrow like he'd recognized my name, which she did because 279 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 2: they had talked so much about how I drove the 280 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 2: car that night. So I hand him the envelope and 281 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,320 Speaker 2: he opens it and he looks up at me and 282 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 2: it's whole demeter changed. He says, you tell mister Ginchello 283 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 2: he's going to have to meet with me in person. 284 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 2: Now I'm leaving, and the guy who's escorting me out says, 285 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 2: the old man really liked you. And I said, now, mine, Jo, 286 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: I'm seventeen, I said, which old man? They were all 287 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 2: old and it turned out it was Carlo Gambino. Anyway, 288 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 2: they they must have thought, you know, I look like 289 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: the girl next door. I was appearing on covers of magazines. 290 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 2: They knew I could drive, and Sammy trusted me with 291 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 2: that message, so it was like I was the perfect 292 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 2: person for them to use. And of course my you know, 293 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: just it was just exciting to me at that age. 294 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, yeah, these guys want to use me, 295 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 2: that's great. 296 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: You know when you're talking about Carlo Gambino, he's connected 297 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: to John Gottie. Yes, I mean yeah, I would say, 298 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: that's a little exciting. 299 00:16:26,120 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, I mean I was. I was 300 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: hanging out with you know, the top guys back then. 301 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: But you know, the jobs that they gave me were 302 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: just like picking up packages and dropping them off. And 303 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: I'd go to Utica or Pittsburgh or wherever and I'd 304 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 2: get these boxes or envelopes or something. But I would always, 305 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 2: like maybe two three times a month, I would have 306 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: these big boxes that I would deliver to these guys 307 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 2: in suits at JFK Airport. And I never asked any questions, iver, 308 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 2: so what was in the boxes? But I later found 309 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 2: out there were millions of dollars in these packages and 310 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,879 Speaker 2: those guys were the CIA, and they were laundering the 311 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 2: money for the mob in foreign countries. So I was 312 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: getting in pretty deep, you know. Then it progressed to 313 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 2: what they called pickups, and I would just wait around 314 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 2: the corner for them. And I assume what they were 315 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 2: doing was collecting the big and maybe breaking legs to 316 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:30,719 Speaker 2: get it. I don't know. 317 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: Now, explain to everybody what the veig is. 318 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,879 Speaker 2: That's the interest on the loans that you know, people 319 00:17:36,920 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 2: borrow money and then they when they pay you back, 320 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: they got to pay you back like triple you know, 321 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: so and if they don't, they get their legs broken. Right. 322 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: I think we're clear now, just the way you explained it, 323 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 1: it's so great. But you know, it's it's amazing to me. Again, 324 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people that you know, may quote 325 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: a movie, they may think they have an understanding, but 326 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: you know, you did the thing. I mean, you're connected. 327 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: You knew. I'm not going to call the cops. I'm 328 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: not gonna wrap these folks out. I'm not going to 329 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: look in the packages. I mean you understood the job. 330 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 2: Well, you knew because I grew up around those guys 331 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 2: in Rochester. When you open up the phone book, everybody's 332 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 2: last name ends and evolved they were. That was normal 333 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: to me. I would see the quote bad guys doing 334 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,359 Speaker 2: good things like paying somebody's rent or buying somebody's food 335 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,080 Speaker 2: that couldn't you know, couldn't afford it, and then I 336 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:40,640 Speaker 2: would see the cops doing shady things. So I had 337 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 2: a very distorted view of who the good guys and 338 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 2: bad guys were. 339 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: Let's go back a second, if you don't mind. When 340 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: you talked about your brother in law and the vicious 341 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:56,440 Speaker 1: attack that occurred with you, I want everybody to understand, 342 00:18:57,119 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: and I think it's important because of what you did 343 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:04,280 Speaker 1: with it. So your brother in law attacked you viciously 344 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: and then he drags you outside and he makes a 345 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: statement to you that should just give everybody a chill 346 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,960 Speaker 1: down their spine. He says, I'm going to do something 347 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 1: to you that I'm going to do time for. 348 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:25,200 Speaker 2: Well, he dragged me outside and it was March. It 349 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 2: was there was snow on the ground and the ground 350 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: was hard, and I was totally nude. But when he 351 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 2: realized what he had done and that when my sister 352 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:42,720 Speaker 2: found out, she would never be with him again. And 353 00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:46,679 Speaker 2: that freaked him out. So he dragged me outside and 354 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 2: he grabbed a shovel on the way and he put 355 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 2: the put the shovel in my hand and said, dig 356 00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 2: I said, Dick, you can't kill me. Why not? And 357 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: I said, because because the photographer I'm supposed to work 358 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 2: for tomorrow, he knows I'm with you. I told him 359 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 2: I was going out with you, so he knows. And 360 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 2: he said, we got to call you, got to tell 361 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:07,480 Speaker 2: me you we're with me. That was my chance to 362 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 2: get on the phone. And at the time, I was 363 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,320 Speaker 2: staying with my aunt and her son was a cop, 364 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: and my mother and my sister, my mom and dad 365 00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 2: and sister, they were on a golf thing in South Carolina. 366 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 2: So that's why I was staying with my aunt. And 367 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 2: I told her what time I would be home, and 368 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,879 Speaker 2: I was. I was always good about being where I 369 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 2: said I was going to be. And when I didn't 370 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 2: come back, she was upset and she was worried. And 371 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: so when that phone rang and she answered it, and 372 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm trying to pretend it's the photographer and She's hysterical 373 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:50,880 Speaker 2: on the other end of the line because she since 374 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: there was something really wrong. And I said, Amiel, I'm sorry. 375 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: I said, I can't work for you today, and she's 376 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 2: screaming and my cousin gets on the phone. He says, Georgia, 377 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 2: where are you. I said, I'm I'm sorry. I'm with 378 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 2: my brother in law, and he and I and I 379 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 2: and he rips the phone out of the wall. But 380 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,600 Speaker 2: I knew he understood where I was. And he got 381 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,639 Speaker 2: a hold of my uncle, who was also a cop, 382 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 2: and both of them were there within five to seven minutes, 383 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: and they hit the driveway at the same time. They 384 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 2: came both squealing in and broke down the door and 385 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: there I was, like, totally naked. My cousin got me 386 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 2: a blanket, and my uncle proceeded to beat the hell 387 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 2: out of Dick. And that experience was I lost all 388 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,479 Speaker 2: my self esteem. I didn't I didn't, you know. I 389 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: was still in high school and I always felt like 390 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 2: people were whispering about me, and and that that created 391 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 2: Georgia Black. And there's Georgia White, who's the sweet, innocent, 392 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:04,400 Speaker 2: vulnerable side of me, and then there's Georgia Black, which 393 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 2: isn't really a bad person, but she's there to protect me, 394 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,360 Speaker 2: you know, whenever anything happens to me, she just kind 395 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 2: of jumps in, you know. And it was it was 396 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: interesting when I was writing the book. I didn't realize 397 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,199 Speaker 2: actually I didn't start out writing a book. I was 398 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:31,479 Speaker 2: I was doing this for therapy, and this other voice 399 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: was coming out. So I put a name to it, 400 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 2: and I called it Georgia Black, and Georgia Black appears 401 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 2: throughout the whole book. Georgia Black would come in and 402 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 2: protect me. 403 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,800 Speaker 1: I think everybody needs a Georgia Black and Georgia White. 404 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: I think everybody has it, you know, but mine was 405 00:22:49,600 --> 00:22:52,040 Speaker 2: really pronounced at times. 406 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Well, yours had to be. And you know, you were 407 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: not only in a bad situation with your brother in law, 408 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: but you were in a domestic violence marriage, and you, 409 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 1: I would imagine, had to type into Georgia Black quite often. 410 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 1: I know one incident where there ain't no doubt you did, 411 00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 1: and Georgia Black went. 412 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,439 Speaker 2: To work and I had a stalker where Georgia Black 413 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: really came into play. 414 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: You got to a point with your husband that you 415 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 1: were going to be killed if you did not take 416 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 1: some type of overt action. 417 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's right, I did. I finally left him 418 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 2: and I got to Los Angeles. In fact, when I 419 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 2: left him, we were both in San Diego because a 420 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,119 Speaker 2: mob woar had broken out and they were killing everybody 421 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 2: who knew anything. So we had to leave and we 422 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: were in Salta Beach and I couldn't talk to people. 423 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 2: He wouldn't allow me to talk to people. So if 424 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 2: I sat, if I sat at the at the pool side, 425 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,359 Speaker 2: I always had to pull my chair away from people 426 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 2: and not make eye contact because people just want to know, 427 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: you know, what do you do? Where are you from? 428 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 2: But I couldn't say anything. And I had my daughter 429 00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: with me. She was seven years old, and she was 430 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: in the pool and she was playing with these two 431 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,159 Speaker 2: little girls, and all of a sudden I heard her laugh, 432 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: and I realized I hadn't heard her laugh, and so 433 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:22,439 Speaker 2: long I was so you know, wound up in my 434 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 2: own pain that I didn't see hers until I heard 435 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 2: her laugh. And my husband was playing tennis below where 436 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 2: I could see him, and the pool was kind of above, 437 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 2: and I got up. I took her by the hand 438 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: and went back to the condo, and she kept saying Mommy, 439 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:44,320 Speaker 2: why are you walking so fast? And we got there 440 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 2: and I just grabbed what I could out of the 441 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: closet and put it put it in the car. And 442 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 2: my hand is shaking as I'm trying to put the 443 00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 2: key in the in the ignition, and every second I'm thinking, 444 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: he's he's going to find me. He's going to catch me. 445 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,720 Speaker 2: He's going to catch And the gate opens up to 446 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,919 Speaker 2: the car could get out, and it just seemed to 447 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 2: open up so slow, and finally it opened and I'm 448 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,439 Speaker 2: going down the hill and I have to pass the 449 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 2: tennis courts and I look over and where he was playing, 450 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: and he saw me, and he stopped in his tracks 451 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: and he just looked at me, like, you better turn 452 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: around if you know what's good for you, and not 453 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 2: just going. And I ended up going north instead of south, 454 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 2: thank god, or i'd be in Mexico today. But I 455 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: didn't know where I was. I mean, I was new 456 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 2: to California and it was five o'clock traffic and it 457 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:38,879 Speaker 2: was smoggy, and I was looking around at all the 458 00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 2: cars on the side of me. People were going home, 459 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 2: they were going to dinner there. I didn't have a 460 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,479 Speaker 2: home to go to. I had no idea where I 461 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 2: was going, and I looked up and I saw the 462 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 2: Hollywood sign, so I knew I was in Hollywood. And 463 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480 Speaker 2: my daughter was hungry, so I stopped at McDonald's to 464 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 2: get or something to eat, and I opened my person 465 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 2: I only had seven dollars. He had taken my credit card, 466 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 2: so I had no credit cards and I ended up 467 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 2: stealing cupcakes in seven to eleven, just something for her 468 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 2: to eat. And I was trying to find my friend. 469 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: I knew he lived in Los Angeles, someplace I used 470 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 2: to model with him in New York, and I ended 471 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 2: up living in my car for a couple of days 472 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 2: until I finally got a hold of them, and he 473 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: allowed me and my daughter to stay there, but on 474 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: a promise that my husband would never find out that 475 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 2: he took me in because my husband he was a 476 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,439 Speaker 2: good looking guy and we used to model a lot together, 477 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,840 Speaker 2: and my husband was very jealous of him, and he 478 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,400 Speaker 2: forbid me to do any jobs with him, and when 479 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 2: he saw me in a magazine with him, he beat 480 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,359 Speaker 2: this poor guy up for no reason at all, just 481 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 2: for appearing with me in a magazine. Anyway, now you know, 482 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,320 Speaker 2: I got to do something for work, and so I'm 483 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 2: watching TV in his place every day, and every day 484 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 2: there was a car commercial. I mean every time I 485 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 2: was a car commercial on TV. It seemed like it 486 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: was like for every commercial. And I realized you could 487 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 2: never see the driver. And I said, that's perfect. I 488 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 2: could do that because I couldn't really model do anything 489 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: nationally because he'd know where to find me. And so 490 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 2: Jim was an actor, so he knew where they were 491 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 2: shooting car commercials and he would tell me where they were. 492 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 2: And I drive down to the location and bug these 493 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 2: directors and they would look at me like, sure she 494 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: can drive, uh huh, and I couldn't tell what was 495 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:36,479 Speaker 2: on my resume. And finally this one director got so 496 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 2: sick of seeing me, he says, okay, show up on Tuesday. 497 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 2: We'll see what you can do. So I showed up 498 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 2: on Tuesday, and I think he was pretty happy with, 499 00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 2: you know what I did. And he started using me, 500 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 2: and he started telling other directors and they started using me, 501 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 2: and before I knew it, I was turning down work. 502 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,040 Speaker 2: I couldn't do it all. I said, geez, if I could, 503 00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 2: just if I could just clone myself, I could be 504 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,400 Speaker 2: a millionaire. And that's what I did. I went after 505 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 2: good looking women who could drive, because back then they 506 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,439 Speaker 2: were putting wigs on guys. This was in the early seventies, 507 00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: and there was a real need for women. So I 508 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 2: went after race car drivers and stunt women and good 509 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,000 Speaker 2: looking women that already had a feel for a car, 510 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 2: and then I trained them in precision. But I know 511 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 2: that guys get more work than women back then anyway, 512 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 2: So I ended up bringing guys on and I ended 513 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 2: up getting Bobby Nser Junior and Darn Robinson who was 514 00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,880 Speaker 2: very famous thumpman, and you know, and then I came 515 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 2: out of the gate with these with this group of 516 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 2: people that were fantastic, and the company took off and 517 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 2: I went from living in my car to now living 518 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 2: in a five thousand square foot home. 519 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: So you know how brilliant though, for you to realize 520 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,720 Speaker 1: you don't see the driver in these commercials, and for 521 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: you to say, hey, that's something I know I can 522 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: do and he'll never see me. So often with your life, 523 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: it wasn't always perfectly smooth. What happened in the vintage Ferrari. 524 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:25,480 Speaker 2: So I was doing this Bugle Boy jeans commercial and 525 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: this vintage Ferrari had no power steering. It was a 526 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 2: seventy five Diino Ferrari. And anyway, it was if you 527 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 2: remember the commercial, it's this hunk, this good looking guy 528 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:44,400 Speaker 2: in a jeep and then the girl drives up alongside 529 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 2: of him and she says, excuse me, are those bugle 530 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 2: boy jeans you're wearing? And he says, why, yes, they are, 531 00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: and she does a one eighty and goes back the 532 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: other way. Well that was me. When I did the 533 00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 2: one eighty, the back tire caught the soft shoulder and 534 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 2: flipped the car over this embankment and I was heading 535 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 2: towards a three hundred drop off into the ocean. And 536 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:11,320 Speaker 2: all I kept thinking about the whole time I was 537 00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 2: summer signed to my death was oh my god, I'm 538 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 2: wrecking a two hundred and fifty thousand dollars car. Never 539 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 2: did my my wife pass in front of me, or 540 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 2: did I think of my kids. And it was all 541 00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: about wrecking the car, you know. So when I got 542 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 2: back from location, I was fine, but I said I 543 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 2: went to see a therapist because I wanted to figure 544 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: out why the car was important and why my life 545 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: wasn't important. And the therapist suggested that I get a 546 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480 Speaker 2: journal and I write in it for twenty minutes a 547 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: day and whatever came to my head, and I started 548 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 2: doing that, and that's where you get the book. Now, 549 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: you know, it turned into a book, and it's doing 550 00:30:59,000 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: very very well. 551 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 1: The book is something I could not put down. I mean, 552 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: you and I have known each other for years, and 553 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: I knew a lot of the book. I knew a 554 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: lot of the stories. Honey, I did not know everything, 555 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: and I did not know. I didn't know there was 556 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: a contract out on your life. I didn't know a 557 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: lot that happened to you and the things that you did. 558 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: And I ain't gonna tell nobody anything else. Because listen, 559 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,960 Speaker 1: y'all need to get the book because you need to 560 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 1: hear how she got out of the mob. Because those 561 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: of us that grow up watching Mob movies and reading, 562 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, books about alcopoone and whatnot, you know, you 563 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,040 Speaker 1: hear you can't get out. I mean, John God, he 564 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: ain't gonna let you out. Carlo Gambino ain't gonna let 565 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: you out. So how did Georgia Duranti get out? You 566 00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: need to get the book. And one other reason you 567 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: need to get the book, and almost say one word 568 00:31:50,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: and one word only. Sword don't tell them. But it's 569 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: worth the price of the book because when I tell 570 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: you Georgia Black showed up, baby. 571 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 2: I could have been the first Elena Bobbit. 572 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, you need to get it. It's called the Company 573 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: She Keeps. But here's something I also want to touch on, 574 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: because I think this is something that when you talk 575 00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 1: about some of the things that happened to you and 576 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 1: then you take all of that and now you parley 577 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 1: it as an advocate and you help women, you help 578 00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: young girls, you help people that are struggling with violence 579 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: and different things in their life that they don't see 580 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: a way out. I think in my world, I just 581 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: I believe there are no accidents, and I know that 582 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,040 Speaker 1: some of the things that happened to you were so horrible, 583 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: but look what you were able to do with it, 584 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: the good you're able to do with it. 585 00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 2: I think God was guiding that pen because I had 586 00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 2: no idea that was going to happen. I was just 587 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 2: telling my story and the fact that it is helping 588 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 2: so many people is so gratifying in it It's like 589 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 2: it's everything I endured makes it really worth it to 590 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 2: know that it's helping. 591 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: You know, it's remarkable. And again, you didn't have just 592 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,280 Speaker 1: one thing. You had layers and layers and multiple things. 593 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: And you know, you had to fight when you had 594 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: your children. Besides you, you had to fight, you know, 595 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: with your sister and that whole not fight with your sister, 596 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: I mean fight next to her with what happened with 597 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, her husband. And there's just a lot and 598 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 1: it was I think compounded. And then you had, you know, 599 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: the legal side of things that you were dipping into. 600 00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 1: And you know, once you got where you needed to be, 601 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: which I think you were absolutely led to do the 602 00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: stunt work. It's all part of the plan, the big 603 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: play in the big picture. 604 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 2: Well you know something, It's like there is so much there, 605 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,400 Speaker 2: every chapter in that who could be a movie in itself, 606 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: but it had actually been optioned seven times, but nobody 607 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 2: could figure out how to squeeze all that into two hours. 608 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 2: And now George gillo Is he's a director and writer. 609 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: He did Midnight Run, twenty ninth Street, He's done a 610 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 2: lot of movies anyway, he is loving this story. He says, 611 00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 2: no nobody can write this like I can. He said, 612 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 2: I know the language. He knows all. You know, he 613 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 2: knows I'm legit, you know what I mean. So we'll 614 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: see what happens. He's going to have a meeting with 615 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 2: them and give him his take on how it should 616 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 2: be done. And you know they're they're looking at writers. 617 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: Now he knows you're legit. Well, yeah, I guess you 618 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: have a little straight cred. I mean you have. There's 619 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: great quotes about you from you know, Sammy g And 620 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,960 Speaker 1: there's great quotes from you know, famous famous people. You 621 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 1: had somebody extremely famous give you some good advice about 622 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:00,960 Speaker 1: your book and how to write. 623 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: It, you know. 624 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: And it's just one of those things where I think 625 00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: when people hear it, it is almost unbelievable in the 626 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: way you tell it and the you make it so real, 627 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: and it's just a human story of I can overcome 628 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: whatever is thrown my way. So yeah, you look for 629 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 1: it venture in a little bit of danger. But that 630 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: did not for me play into what happened to you, 631 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,040 Speaker 1: if that makes any sense. I mean, there's you know, 632 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:40,239 Speaker 1: there's things. Everybody makes decisions, right, and you know, your 633 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: decisions were to get a better life, to get out 634 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: of that small town, and you know, not have your 635 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,799 Speaker 1: children grow up poor, but yet here you are in 636 00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:53,279 Speaker 1: Hollywood with seven dollars and again, look what you did 637 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 1: with it? Not bad. 638 00:35:55,040 --> 00:36:00,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an inspirational story for people that are kind 639 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: of in a bad situation that you know that they 640 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,440 Speaker 2: can get out of it. They you know, but the 641 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 2: whole point is is they got to believe in themselves, 642 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,800 Speaker 2: and if they're an abusive situation, they're not going to 643 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: believe them in themselves until they get out of it. 644 00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 1: If you had one thing to say to people that 645 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,759 Speaker 1: are in any situation, they don't feel like they can 646 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 1: get out of a bad job, a bad marriage. 647 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 2: I've had I've had really really good experiences in my life, 648 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 2: and I've had some really really bad experiences in my life. 649 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,640 Speaker 2: And I think I think I had to have the 650 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 2: low times in order to appreciate the high times. But 651 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 2: the one thing that I did, which is the most 652 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 2: greatest thing that I've ever done, was I did a 653 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,719 Speaker 2: trip with the Pentagon and the military when I was 654 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 2: giving a speech at Cannon Air Force Base to all 655 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 2: the officers. Because when these guys were coming out of Iraq, 656 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,359 Speaker 2: it seemed like every week they were somebody was killing 657 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:02,759 Speaker 2: their wife and they wanted me to talk about what 658 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: to look for and you know, kind of educate the officers. 659 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 2: And when I finished with that speech, I got a 660 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:19,360 Speaker 2: standing ovation and the colonel had he nominated me for 661 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,840 Speaker 2: this program where they where they have twenty five hundred 662 00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,759 Speaker 2: nominees and they pick forty people. A lot of those 663 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:32,919 Speaker 2: forty people, I mean there were CEOs of companies, there 664 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:39,960 Speaker 2: were professors at colleges and you know, really smart people, right, 665 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 2: and and then here I am the getaway driver for 666 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: the mob. 667 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: I would love to see their faces like, well, I'm 668 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,800 Speaker 1: the CEO of you know, Darrel Electric and what do 669 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:02,399 Speaker 1: you oh? I was the getaway driver for them all. 670 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 2: And you know what, they check you back to your 671 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,359 Speaker 2: grandmother's underwear. To how the hell I ever got in 672 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 2: with this crowd, I have no idea. But it was 673 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,320 Speaker 2: the most amazing trip of my life. And we didn't 674 00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,320 Speaker 2: know where we were going because of you know, of 675 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:26,200 Speaker 2: the war. And we all flew into Washington and went 676 00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: through the Pentagon and we're showing all around there and 677 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,759 Speaker 2: then we got on a c one at Andrews Air 678 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: Force Base and at that point when we got on 679 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: the plane, they told us where we were going. And 680 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 2: our first stop was in Germany, and I got to 681 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:47,759 Speaker 2: sit in the cockpit for takeoff and landing, and we 682 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: did an air to air fuel transfer over Iceland, and 683 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 2: then when we got to to Germany, we were in 684 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,359 Speaker 2: the tanks. We were like in real fighting, you know, 685 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: situations where we're actually shooting at each other. We shot 686 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:10,279 Speaker 2: every gun in the whole point of this was to 687 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,279 Speaker 2: see how the military operates and come out of it 688 00:39:13,320 --> 00:39:16,040 Speaker 2: and speak about it, or talk about it in a 689 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,439 Speaker 2: or write about it in a positive way. And when 690 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:23,640 Speaker 2: Penguin Publishing bought my mass market paper book rights, they 691 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 2: allowed me to add that chapter at the end, and 692 00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: it was like, what it's like, I could die, you know. 693 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that was the experience of a lifetime. It 694 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 2: was unbelievable. 695 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: That is amazing, amazing, priceless. 696 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I made it. I seriously feel like 697 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:45,640 Speaker 2: I've done everything God has been good to me. I 698 00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:49,080 Speaker 2: could die tomorrow and feel like I've done at all. 699 00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,920 Speaker 1: So y'all, I'm gonna tag you again. You've got to 700 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,920 Speaker 1: go get this book. It's called the Company She keeps. 701 00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,360 Speaker 1: Text me, instant message me, email me, let me know 702 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 1: on social media what you think After you read the 703 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,480 Speaker 1: part about the sword. She has lived many lifetimes in 704 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,320 Speaker 1: one life, and y'all, she ain't done. I'm going to 705 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:12,880 Speaker 1: end Zone seven the way that I always do with 706 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: a quote, don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I am 707 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: kind to everyone, but when someone is unkind to me, 708 00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:27,920 Speaker 1: it's not what you're going to remember about me. Al Capone. 709 00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm Cheryl McCollum and this is Zone seven.