WEBVTT - Cavaliers Sweep the Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 1>This crowd rises to speaking what Carl slammed it out

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<v Speaker 1>car left wing, free ball, perfect pop, then he left

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<v Speaker 1>lock the shot at the rim, pow with the left hand.

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<v Speaker 2>And of foul.

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<v Speaker 3>Slash Calves. The Cleveland Cavaliers have completed the most dominant

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<v Speaker 3>light lopsided series in NBA history, beating the Miami Heat

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<v Speaker 3>by a combined one hundred and twenty two points through

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<v Speaker 3>four games. My prediction was correct. The Calves wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>come out and make a statement. They did it, and

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<v Speaker 3>they swept the Miami Heat. Joining me today is my

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<v Speaker 3>co host, Carter Rodriguez. Carter, how you doing, buddy?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, it's a cavalis It was like a forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>minute cavalanche. These boys went up sixty in Game four

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<v Speaker 1>on the road. I mean, what an unbelievable stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>games in Miami. A dominance, I'm not sure. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we've literally, I guess never seen you know, with them

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<v Speaker 1>setting the record for the most dominant sweep in the

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<v Speaker 1>history of the sport. And it just kind of goes

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<v Speaker 1>to show you how ready this team was to answer

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<v Speaker 1>questions to knock down the dominoes put in front of them.

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<v Speaker 1>No one's gonna mistake this Heat team for a juggernaut.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, this was the ninth best defense in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 1>and I believe they were seventh best after the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star break, and I mean hot knife feugh butter one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and thirty, one hundred and thirty seven offensive rating

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<v Speaker 1>for the series, like.

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<v Speaker 3>Come on, which is an NBA record for best offensive

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<v Speaker 3>rating in a series.

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<v Speaker 1>Right when.

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<v Speaker 3>One of the things that we asked coming into the

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<v Speaker 3>series that we wanted to learn is can the Cavs

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<v Speaker 3>offense finally translate to the postseason? Can they have you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a strong offensive series. I believe you wanted to see

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<v Speaker 3>one eighteen, am I correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was hoping. I was like, I'll settle for

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<v Speaker 1>one sixteen. You know know what you did, Carter?

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<v Speaker 3>You sold them a little short, you sold short the hardest, working,

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<v Speaker 3>best condition, most professional, unselfish, toughest, meanest, nastiest team in

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<v Speaker 3>the playoffs?

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you do that? It couldn't possibly be me.

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<v Speaker 1>You must be thinking to someone else justin I want

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<v Speaker 1>to open by asking you this because we were going

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<v Speaker 1>into our serious preview and I asked you if anything

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<v Speaker 1>in the first round could change your opinion about this team,

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<v Speaker 1>like not like out of Series two series, because I

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<v Speaker 1>think both of us felt like they could win the

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<v Speaker 1>title coming into that series. But I kind of asked, like,

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<v Speaker 1>can they do anything to kind of make you feel

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<v Speaker 1>differently about them after that that ridiculousness.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you remember what my answer was at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't remind me.

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<v Speaker 3>My answer was, no, they can't do anything to change

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<v Speaker 3>what my opinion is, my level of confidence going moving forward,

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<v Speaker 3>because I was going to give them the benefit of

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<v Speaker 3>the doubt, right, Like I said, going into this series,

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<v Speaker 3>my brain says five because Miami always finds a way

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<v Speaker 3>to get a game in a series. But my heart

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<v Speaker 3>is telling me four because what we've seen this season

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<v Speaker 3>from the Cleveland Cavaliers is when they have something to

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<v Speaker 3>play for, when they have an edge to them, they

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<v Speaker 3>go out and accomplish it, whether it is the historic

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<v Speaker 3>regular season they had, whether it was getting three of

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<v Speaker 3>them to the All Star Game, that seemed to be,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a real thing that they wanted to accomplish.

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<v Speaker 3>Evan Mobley winning Defensive Player of the Year, donnod Mitchell

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<v Speaker 3>is going to be All NBA. I think Evan's definitely

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<v Speaker 3>going to make All NBA as well. These guys, when

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<v Speaker 3>they have a chip on their shoulder, we've seen another

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<v Speaker 3>gear from them. And I think after the All Star break,

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<v Speaker 3>with the one seed already locked up with a brutal

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<v Speaker 3>travel schedule, we just didn't see the same kind of

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<v Speaker 3>focus calves and I really felt with a week off

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<v Speaker 3>with something to prove, with guys like Darius Garland saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we know what the perception is, we know what we

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<v Speaker 3>have to do to change it. We want to go

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<v Speaker 3>out and change it, I just felt like they were

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<v Speaker 3>going to, you know, come out and make a statement.

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<v Speaker 3>And you look at this series. Man Game one, twenty

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<v Speaker 3>one point, League Game two, nineteen point, League Game three,

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<v Speaker 3>forty point, League Game four, sixty point lead. We said

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<v Speaker 3>after Game two that that was probably Miami's best shot.

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<v Speaker 3>We felt that the shot making from Miami was unsustainable.

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<v Speaker 3>They were not getting good looks. I think coming off

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<v Speaker 3>to elimination games that they won, they were playing with

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of confidence. Their best was not enough, and

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<v Speaker 3>I think after they had that, starting Game three, the

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<v Speaker 3>Cavs came out without Donovan Mitchell and had an eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>oh run to basically, you know, start to put that

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<v Speaker 3>game away and put it out of reach where once

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<v Speaker 3>again they were going to need to attempt another large comeback.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't want to say it about professionals,

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<v Speaker 3>but it really it felt like, you know, their confidence

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<v Speaker 3>kind of fell apart at that point, and you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it just felt like they were out of the series,

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<v Speaker 3>like they did not believe that they could compete. And

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<v Speaker 3>once you reach that point where you no longer believe

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<v Speaker 3>that you can actually contend and compete within a series,

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<v Speaker 3>you're going to let go of the rope and things

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<v Speaker 3>are going to unravel fast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And I don't think it's always about effort. It's

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<v Speaker 1>about like how hard your brain is working to solve

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<v Speaker 1>the problem. You know. I just think, like to your point,

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<v Speaker 1>Miami kind of very quickly came to the same conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>that much of the viewing public game two, which is

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<v Speaker 1>that we can't solve this problem. We don't have the juice,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the ball handlers, we don't have the shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have the physicality, you know, and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of those things are such Miami heat staples that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's jarring like but like I do think as bad

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<v Speaker 1>as the Heat were in these last two games, like

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<v Speaker 1>you have to give the credit to the Cavs for

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<v Speaker 1>taking it the way.

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<v Speaker 3>They did, I've never seen a Spo team give up.

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<v Speaker 3>And it really felt that way. And Spo had this

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<v Speaker 3>comment after Game three, and no, I've never heard him

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<v Speaker 3>sound as dejected. He said, clearly a very disappointing day. Look,

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<v Speaker 3>our guys really want this. It probably looks like our

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<v Speaker 3>guys don't. But I know what our last six weeks

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<v Speaker 3>have been and like to fight and scratch and claw

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<v Speaker 3>to get this. We laid an egg today. Big part

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<v Speaker 3>of it was Cleveland became an avalanche going in the

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<v Speaker 3>other direction. Sometimes when you care, there's a level of

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<v Speaker 3>discouragement that fed into that avalanche. That's what we all

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<v Speaker 3>feel the spirited about. I think that's I don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to laugh at that man like, that's that's vulnerable, that's real.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think one of the things we've seen in

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<v Speaker 3>these playoffs is a bit of a shift in the NBA,

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<v Speaker 3>where in the past, I think teams when we saw

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<v Speaker 3>the best player in a series, we almost always gave

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<v Speaker 3>that team an edge. I think from just the way

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<v Speaker 3>rosters were constructed, that player always would come out on top,

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<v Speaker 3>or very frequently would come out on top. And now

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<v Speaker 3>with modern team building, with the level of talent that

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<v Speaker 3>is around the league, that isn't the differentiating factor anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>Man Like Giannis is out there having a phenomenal series

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<v Speaker 3>against Indiana and he's fighting like to the death to

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<v Speaker 3>get a game off these guys Lebron and Luca, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>a perfect example of top end tallent not necessarily being enough.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you come to this Miami heats where the

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<v Speaker 3>Cows not only have the top end talent, we have

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<v Speaker 3>the five through eight, you know, five through ten level

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<v Speaker 3>of talent to just relentlessly come after you minute after minute.

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<v Speaker 3>After the starters got pulled in the third quarter, Miami

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<v Speaker 3>kept their starters out there. A lot of key players

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<v Speaker 3>were still playing. Our bench extended that lead. It's incredibly impressive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's you know, I've been saying it for a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years, kind of starting to see the narrative

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<v Speaker 1>kind of kind of flip nationally in analyzing the league.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I forget who wrote the article that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>is this a week link league now? Where you're just

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<v Speaker 1>as good as your worst piece that you play, and

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<v Speaker 1>you're looking up and down the playoffs. You're seeing Lakers

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<v Speaker 1>not make a sub yesterday in the second half literally

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<v Speaker 1>played the same five guys twenty four straight minutes. You're

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<v Speaker 1>watching the Knicks get five bench points against Detroit, even

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<v Speaker 1>in a game they won. You know, it just feels

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<v Speaker 1>so precarious for those teams in a way that it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't for the Cavs. Yeah. And that's not to say

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<v Speaker 1>the Cabs bench won't struggle at different points over the playoffs, Like.

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<v Speaker 3>It might be different guys that we rely on, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>But like the holistic reliance and the difference between these

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<v Speaker 1>top heavy teams and the teams you can play nine

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<v Speaker 1>or ten guys and feel really good about that, it

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<v Speaker 1>does feel like it matters. You know, Minnesota has a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of dudes they really really trust, and it doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to be ten. But like it's like having a

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<v Speaker 1>really strong upper middle class of your roster where it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just guys who can survive out there for four

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<v Speaker 1>minutes where you're just kind of crossing your fingers, but

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<v Speaker 1>guys who, when they're on, can really help. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>this is I've said it before, but this is where

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<v Speaker 1>I was so wrong about Boston last year was I

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<v Speaker 1>thought they had six good players and you know, eight

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<v Speaker 1>or nine guys that they really couldn't count on. It

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<v Speaker 1>turned out Sam Houser hits in a major way, Prichard

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<v Speaker 1>hits in a major way, Cornett hits in a major way,

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<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, they're, you know, not only

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<v Speaker 1>as they're starting five unbelievable, they're an eight or nine

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<v Speaker 1>deep team with guys that can kill you. And like,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, you look at that Indiana Milwaukee series

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<v Speaker 1>and like his proofs in the pudding in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>who you can rely on to consistently carry you through

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<v Speaker 1>a series, I feel like the teams with depth are

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<v Speaker 1>the ones that are really showing out in this playoffs.

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<v Speaker 3>Here is the best way that I can summarize that depth.

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<v Speaker 3>There are two teams that have a double digit net

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<v Speaker 3>rating in the playoffs Cavs and the Thunder. The Thunders

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<v Speaker 3>was nineteen for their series win against the Grizzlies. Not

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<v Speaker 3>a single Cleveland Cavalier had a net rating below twelve

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<v Speaker 3>when they were on court, so dominant every single guy

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<v Speaker 3>up and down the rotation. But it gets more wild

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<v Speaker 3>than that. The Cav's net rating with Donovan off the

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<v Speaker 3>floor was thirty points better. They're net rating with Darius

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<v Speaker 3>off the court was thirty one points better. Their net

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<v Speaker 3>rating with Evan off the court was thirty eight points better.

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<v Speaker 3>So keep that in mind. Those guys, like you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes you see negative on off splits. Every single one

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<v Speaker 3>of these guys had an on court net rating of

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<v Speaker 3>over twelve. That means you are smoking them when you

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<v Speaker 3>are out there on the court. The Cavs three best players,

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<v Speaker 3>they managed to dominate this series when they were not

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<v Speaker 3>in the game. That is something, man like. That is something,

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<v Speaker 3>And it's not like they didn't do their part. Darius Garland,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll play Tyler hero in his minutes, Evan Mobley, I'll

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<v Speaker 3>play bam Adebayo. Donovan Mitchell one cold shooting game, but

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<v Speaker 3>you saw him close out Game two. He was phenomenal

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<v Speaker 3>in this series. I thought he played with a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of composure. He said after the game, you know, he

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't worry about rest versus rust kind of thing, because

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<v Speaker 3>he feels great. He said, it's the best he's felt

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<v Speaker 3>in the playoffs, and he will take all the rest

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<v Speaker 3>he can get. This Cavs team earned the rest that

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<v Speaker 3>they got, but what we have seen throughout the season

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<v Speaker 3>is they have put themselves in a position to capitalize

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<v Speaker 3>on this rest because throughout eighty two games they knew

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<v Speaker 3>they could trust guys five through ten on this roster

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<v Speaker 3>and even if he need be, Hey, we can throw

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<v Speaker 3>in a Jalen Tyson, we don't care Craig Porter Junior

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<v Speaker 3>can play. We know that these guys can give us

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<v Speaker 3>good minutes. We can play these guys at Madison Square

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<v Speaker 3>Garden in a game where where Donovan Mitchell is out

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<v Speaker 3>and go out and win. There is just such a

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<v Speaker 3>high level of trust and confidence, and I think that

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<v Speaker 3>translates to how they play, how connected they play on

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<v Speaker 3>both ends of the court.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also just such a testament to the front office

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, I still think is you know, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the occupational hazards of Kenny getting all this love

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<v Speaker 1>is that I feel like the front office isn't maybe

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<v Speaker 1>getting as many flowers as they deserve this season because

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<v Speaker 1>three years ago they traded for Donovan and the consensus

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<v Speaker 1>agreement is that was their all in move, no more

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<v Speaker 1>chips to cash, and and we kind of figured that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just logically, that this was a team that

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<v Speaker 1>was going to have to be really really really good

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<v Speaker 1>at the top four. And if those four guys were

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<v Speaker 1>great and meshed well together, they would be great. If

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<v Speaker 1>those guys weren't great, they it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>uphill sludding, you know. And the fact that they've just like,

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<v Speaker 1>not only are they great and great together and able

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<v Speaker 1>to kind of raise, you know, raise the ceiling of

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<v Speaker 1>the team, it also just hasn't mattered if they have

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<v Speaker 1>been good, Like, like, they have so much depth, so

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<v Speaker 1>much insulation. You know, you trade two bench players and

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<v Speaker 1>Keris and Niang and a couple swaps of swaps, and

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<v Speaker 1>go get DeAndre Hunter, who was phenomenal in games three

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<v Speaker 1>and four. You pick up Ty Jerome off the scrap heap,

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<v Speaker 1>he loses an entire season, comes in third and six

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<v Speaker 1>Manut of the Year voting. You you've Dean Wade an

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<v Speaker 1>undrafted free agent, you know, just so Sam merrill A,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a twenty six, twenty seven year old guy

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<v Speaker 1>you signed to your G League team, and then he

0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:59.040
<v Speaker 1>earned his way to the main roster like every even

0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:01.480
<v Speaker 1>Isaac o Kora, who was you know, the most traditional

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<v Speaker 1>path in you know, being a high pedigree pick, like

0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:09.480
<v Speaker 1>the roster is just padded out with every possible way

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<v Speaker 1>to add talent, you know, max in free agency. They

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<v Speaker 1>have such phenomenal depth, and all of it was earned

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<v Speaker 1>and and really worked for by this front office. And

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<v Speaker 1>they just deserve so much credit for that. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>really do.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>Even hey, Ricky Rubio, you know, unfortunately gets hurt. Were

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<v Speaker 3>what we believe in this team. We're going to flip

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<v Speaker 3>him with a first round pick to get Kris Lavert right,

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<v Speaker 3>and Carris gave them a lot of really good minutes.

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<v Speaker 3>You sign him to an extension. But then, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>we we invested in Tidrome. This is someone that we've

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to bring into the locker room for a very

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<v Speaker 3>long time. It has been a perfect fit, and that

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<v Speaker 3>has afforded us the flexibility to go out and flip

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Karris Lavert and George Niang who was having

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<v Speaker 3>a great season for DeAndre Hunter right, developing Jeddi Osmond

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<v Speaker 3>and Lamar Stevens, both of them playing real minutes on

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<v Speaker 3>a fifty win team, which I think people forget and

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<v Speaker 3>using that as you know, sign and trade bait to

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<v Speaker 3>get Maxters right, Like, I think it goes beyond just

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<v Speaker 3>who they brought in, but the little kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 3>turning a paper clip into a house through you know,

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<v Speaker 3>seven thousand trades that Kobe Altman had to do to

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<v Speaker 3>really build a deep roster that can have sustained success

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<v Speaker 3>after really emptying the cupboard to give an honest effort

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<v Speaker 3>with Lebron James right and trying to contend as much

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<v Speaker 3>as possible in that four your windows. So I think

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<v Speaker 3>they deserve a ton of credit. I think we have

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<v Speaker 3>seen this team, whether the storm be in a position

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<v Speaker 3>where they could rest guys, and obviously that seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be the case with Darius Garland will knock on wood

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<v Speaker 3>and hope that it isn't something that lingers into the

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<v Speaker 3>Indiana series. But they've really really put themselves in a

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<v Speaker 3>great position and to be in a spot where you know,

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<v Speaker 3>you lose Darius, who's averaging twenty four points per game

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<v Speaker 3>in this series. I'm terrific two way basketball, and oh

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<v Speaker 3>now we can just kind of cycle in DeAndre Hunter,

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<v Speaker 3>who is a twenty point per game scorer in Atlanta.

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<v Speaker 3>He's gonna, you know, play alongside Ty Jerome, Evan Mobley,

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<v Speaker 3>Jared Allen, Donod Mitchell. We still have, you know, so

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<v Speaker 3>much top end scoring talent that unbelievable. I can't believe

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<v Speaker 3>we are in this good of a position because I

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<v Speaker 3>we always talk about the compromises you have to make

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<v Speaker 3>in roster building and team building. The Calves are in

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<v Speaker 3>a hell of a position and all of these guys

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<v Speaker 3>are at least locked up for the short term here.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they are so so good again, I said after

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<v Speaker 1>Game three, now that the sweep is complete, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and one thing I kind of chickened out

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<v Speaker 1>at the beginning of the SPoD because I kind of asked, you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, could anything the way they play change the

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<v Speaker 1>way you feel about them? Yeah? I mean I feel different.

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<v Speaker 1>I do feel different. I feel stronger about this team.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel stronger than if they had done what okay

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<v Speaker 1>see did, which was start off dominant, which, by the way,

0:18:12.280 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 1>the Cavs did too, but you know, start off o

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<v Speaker 1>mega dominant and then kind of tail off with a

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<v Speaker 1>couple close ones in Miami. If that's what they had done,

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, Okay, proud of them, but like you know,

0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.320
<v Speaker 1>and sweeps are hard. You don't you never, you know,

0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.520
<v Speaker 1>turn your nose up at any playoff win, But like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll see how the next series goes. I do feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the offense was so forceful, it was so dominant,

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<v Speaker 1>it was so frankly unbothered by anything Spolstra did. Zone

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<v Speaker 1>didn't work, down shift didn't work, switch more didn't work,

0:18:54.440 --> 0:18:58.960
<v Speaker 1>Trap in and blitz the ball handler didn't work. Fight

0:18:59.040 --> 0:19:02.240
<v Speaker 1>over and keep Davion Mitchell connected, so you couldn't get

0:19:02.359 --> 0:19:07.320
<v Speaker 1>advantageous switches didn't work. I don't think Miami did one

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<v Speaker 1>thing that late that worked for more than three minutes

0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.640
<v Speaker 1>at a time. In this series, not a single tactic

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<v Speaker 1>worked because of the offensive flexibility, the scheme versatility of

0:19:19.480 --> 0:19:23.040
<v Speaker 1>this team, the talent level of this team, the shot making,

0:19:23.400 --> 0:19:26.640
<v Speaker 1>the creativeness of their of the way that they attack

0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the passing. Just an absolute dominant offensive performance in every

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<v Speaker 1>single game.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, six in the first half is that

0:20:02.359 --> 0:20:03.439
<v Speaker 1>TJ McConnell.

0:20:04.200 --> 0:20:08.719
<v Speaker 3>That is a Calves franchise playoff record. Six steals in

0:20:08.760 --> 0:20:10.760
<v Speaker 3>the first half. It's a record for a game. And

0:20:10.840 --> 0:20:13.040
<v Speaker 3>Jared did it in the first half. I thought he

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<v Speaker 3>really set the tone honestly when he got that steal

0:20:15.840 --> 0:20:18.000
<v Speaker 3>at the start of the game, when when full course

0:20:19.080 --> 0:20:21.960
<v Speaker 3>I did too, I was like, oh, yeah, they're focused.

0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 3>Jared's locked in again. You know here, we're in a

0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:27.280
<v Speaker 3>very very good position.

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<v Speaker 1>And and conversely, the degree to which Miami was like

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<v Speaker 1>told me it was over.

0:20:36.400 --> 0:20:38.840
<v Speaker 3>It's one thing when you know Donovan goes coast to

0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.399
<v Speaker 3>coast for dunk, but when Jared Allen's just picking your

0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:44.760
<v Speaker 3>pocket and you know, bringing out the Statue of Liberty, which, hey,

0:20:44.760 --> 0:20:46.560
<v Speaker 3>it looked a lot cooler than when he tried to

0:20:46.600 --> 0:20:49.680
<v Speaker 3>do the Lebron dunk, So so points to him, big,

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<v Speaker 3>big shout out to him. I thought he had a

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<v Speaker 3>phenomenal series. This is two years in a row that

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<v Speaker 3>I thought he's been fantastic in the playoffs. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>people will linger on that Nix and forget this man

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<v Speaker 3>who was averaging you know, seventeen and fourteen. I believe

0:21:03.960 --> 0:21:07.239
<v Speaker 3>against Orlando before the broken rip. He is someone that

0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:10.000
<v Speaker 3>has come out and really made an impact in these

0:21:10.040 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 3>series and the one that we're going to need to

0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.680
<v Speaker 3>continue to rely on. I understand that Jared is more

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<v Speaker 3>than happy fighting for offensive rebounds, doing the dirty work,

0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.720
<v Speaker 3>hustle plays, getting the steals. I still think back to

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 3>that steal he had in Game two, which pretty much

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 3>sealed the game, like that was one of the biggest

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:31.800
<v Speaker 3>plays of this entire series and has put them once

0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.679
<v Speaker 3>again in a position to capitalize on the rest that

0:21:34.720 --> 0:21:40.000
<v Speaker 3>they've afforded themselves here. So Jared, I know he's content with,

0:21:40.200 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 3>you know, getting the scraps and cleaning up on that,

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.040
<v Speaker 3>but I just feel like he is such a talented finisher.

0:21:45.080 --> 0:21:48.199
<v Speaker 3>He is such a skilled offensive player that we're going

0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:50.199
<v Speaker 3>to need to continue to make sure that we are

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:53.840
<v Speaker 3>keeping him involved offensively, because I think the most dynamic

0:21:53.920 --> 0:21:58.000
<v Speaker 3>version of this Cavs team is never relying too heavily

0:21:58.600 --> 0:22:02.239
<v Speaker 3>on you know, one or two players to you know,

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.520
<v Speaker 3>do the heavy lifting here. When we have you know, three,

0:22:05.720 --> 0:22:09.240
<v Speaker 3>four five guys all cooking, that's when we really played

0:22:09.240 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 3>the best Cats basketball.

0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Jared Allen against the Miami Heat in four games, scores

0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 1>fifty seven points, twenty one of twenty seven from the field,

0:22:19.119 --> 0:22:24.160
<v Speaker 1>fifteen of fifteen from the free throw line, forty one rebounds,

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:27.560
<v Speaker 1>thirteen of them on the offensive end, uh so average

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<v Speaker 1>about three offensive rebounds a game a little bit more,

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<v Speaker 1>had ten steals like and was a plus seventy six.

0:22:36.600 --> 0:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe he led the team in plus minus. Nope,

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<v Speaker 1>I did it plus eighty eight, which is hilarious. You know,

0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:49.000
<v Speaker 1>just the consummate professional to your point, Like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>think he has been one of their most reliable players

0:22:53.560 --> 0:22:59.080
<v Speaker 1>so far and over these last two years in the

0:22:59.160 --> 0:23:02.800
<v Speaker 1>in the postseason, he really has settled into what he

0:23:02.840 --> 0:23:05.600
<v Speaker 1>needs to do for this team. I think his defensive

0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 1>rebounding is super laudable, you know, because that is not

0:23:09.720 --> 0:23:14.200
<v Speaker 1>a strength of this team. And you know, Evan didn't

0:23:14.240 --> 0:23:17.600
<v Speaker 1>board great in this series. You know, he was doing

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:20.480
<v Speaker 1>a lot of wrestling with Bam or getting switched on

0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:24.359
<v Speaker 1>the perimeter, and like, especially if Evan isn't having a

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.840
<v Speaker 1>dominant rebounding series, the impetus on Jarrett to do that

0:23:28.040 --> 0:23:31.560
<v Speaker 1>goes way way way up. And he was just tough

0:23:31.680 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 1>as nails. Yeah, it's.

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<v Speaker 3>He really like heilloutware. I feel for him, but he

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<v Speaker 3>at the.

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<v Speaker 1>Beginning of the series, I said, this is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a welcome to the NBA, buddy, Like you think

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<v Speaker 1>you are a big, springy, rim protecting, dunking big man,

0:23:51.320 --> 0:23:54.479
<v Speaker 1>Like there's levels of this game, young blood, and like

0:23:54.560 --> 0:23:56.159
<v Speaker 1>that's exactly what Jarrett showed.

0:23:57.200 --> 0:24:00.440
<v Speaker 3>I just think he has matured so much of a player.

0:24:00.440 --> 0:24:03.439
<v Speaker 3>He has rounded out his game in so many ways,

0:24:03.960 --> 0:24:07.880
<v Speaker 3>and it really really shows, like the touch he has,

0:24:07.960 --> 0:24:10.320
<v Speaker 3>like sometimes when he's taking off far from the basket

0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.440
<v Speaker 3>and he just puts that little spin on it where

0:24:12.720 --> 0:24:15.440
<v Speaker 3>you know it's basically hitting the backboard below the rim

0:24:15.520 --> 0:24:18.560
<v Speaker 3>but still popping up and going perfectly in. Like that's

0:24:18.560 --> 0:24:20.639
<v Speaker 3>not an easy thing to do when you are playing

0:24:21.440 --> 0:24:26.880
<v Speaker 3>against rangey, lengthy defenders, and you know, I think we're

0:24:27.240 --> 0:24:29.520
<v Speaker 3>going to kind of make the assumption here that next

0:24:29.600 --> 0:24:31.520
<v Speaker 3>round is going to be against the Indiana Pacers. I

0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:35.320
<v Speaker 3>think they have played much better basketball than the Milwaukee

0:24:35.440 --> 0:24:39.760
<v Speaker 3>Bucks for the majority of the season. Honestly, it's ever since,

0:24:39.800 --> 0:24:41.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, they turned things around. I think that's been

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.520
<v Speaker 3>the better team. And then, of course, unfortunately there was

0:24:44.560 --> 0:24:48.600
<v Speaker 3>the Damian Lillard injury, which was just absolutely heartbreaking. You know,

0:24:48.680 --> 0:24:53.560
<v Speaker 3>that's somebody that we've measured CALVS guards against for basically

0:24:53.720 --> 0:24:58.959
<v Speaker 3>my entire time watching basketball. And while I've always been

0:24:59.000 --> 0:25:00.760
<v Speaker 3>on the other side of a lot of game arguments,

0:25:00.800 --> 0:25:02.600
<v Speaker 3>that's someone that have a lot of respect for, and

0:25:02.720 --> 0:25:06.679
<v Speaker 3>you know, that was just terrible to see. But you know,

0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:09.800
<v Speaker 3>there's been a lot of talk about how Indiana, you know,

0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.160
<v Speaker 3>turn their defense around and post All Star Break kind

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:15.280
<v Speaker 3>of what they've done. Indiana's defense post All Star Break

0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:18.160
<v Speaker 3>was one eleven point five, Miami's post All Star Break

0:25:18.280 --> 0:25:22.240
<v Speaker 3>one eleven point six. You're talking about equivalent defenses there.

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<v Speaker 3>Even in net rating, I think people forget like Miami

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.560
<v Speaker 3>was seventh and net rating after the All Star Break

0:25:28.800 --> 0:25:32.200
<v Speaker 3>they were a plus three Indy plus five point six,

0:25:32.560 --> 0:25:35.919
<v Speaker 3>So it's not like you're talking about a massive gap

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<v Speaker 3>in terms of level of play. I will say the

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:42.240
<v Speaker 3>ceiling is a million times higher for Indiana.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they haven't done. I have a couple of things

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<v Speaker 1>I want to hit on from this series before we

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<v Speaker 1>pivot in. Okay, is that cool?

0:25:48.560 --> 0:25:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Go for it.

0:25:49.760 --> 0:25:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Ty Jerome at nineteen assists to two turnovers in his

0:25:54.680 --> 0:25:55.360
<v Speaker 1>four games.

0:25:55.640 --> 0:25:56.560
<v Speaker 3>Oh my goodness.

0:25:56.880 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Like he goes ten of twenty from three to forty

0:26:00.840 --> 0:26:04.639
<v Speaker 1>two from the field, eleven of thirteen from the line.

0:26:06.200 --> 0:26:09.760
<v Speaker 1>What an like. I think both of us felt like

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:13.800
<v Speaker 1>this was gonna be a fine thing for Tie. Like,

0:26:13.920 --> 0:26:16.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't think we went into this being like Ty

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:20.520
<v Speaker 1>might have a hard time with playoff pressure. But I

0:26:20.560 --> 0:26:23.560
<v Speaker 1>feel like he exceeded even my expectations in the sense

0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:27.960
<v Speaker 1>that he completely dominated some of these games, even without

0:26:28.040 --> 0:26:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Darius on the floor.

0:26:29.560 --> 0:26:32.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was big and doing what he did all season.

0:26:32.840 --> 0:26:35.479
<v Speaker 3>Right when when Donno miss's time, Ty has stepped up,

0:26:35.480 --> 0:26:38.200
<v Speaker 3>when Darius missus time, Ty has stepped up, and they've

0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:41.199
<v Speaker 3>done a terrific job all season long managing his minutes.

0:26:42.080 --> 0:26:45.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, it's one of the things that Kenny talked about,

0:26:45.240 --> 0:26:47.800
<v Speaker 3>which is basically, hey, a lot of these guys coming

0:26:47.840 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 3>in off the bench are almost on a minute restriction

0:26:49.920 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 3>because we want them to be healthy. We want to

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:55.120
<v Speaker 3>see them being able to contribute and be at their

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:57.919
<v Speaker 3>best in the playoffs. And Tye is absolutely built for

0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:02.240
<v Speaker 3>these moments. I mean, obviously, the shooting in this series

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 3>is going to regress. That was nuts. We shot forty

0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.480
<v Speaker 3>four percent for a series like next.

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:10.919
<v Speaker 1>From the line and by the way, remember how frustrated

0:27:10.960 --> 0:27:13.560
<v Speaker 1>we were getting post All Star Break with this team's

0:27:13.560 --> 0:27:17.120
<v Speaker 1>free throw shooting not a problem in this series.

0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.640
<v Speaker 3>Man seventy seven of one to seventy five from three

0:27:22.200 --> 0:27:25.560
<v Speaker 3>in a four game series, Like, that's a lot of

0:27:25.640 --> 0:27:27.960
<v Speaker 3>threes to get up in four games, and that's a

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.520
<v Speaker 3>lot of makes to have, you know, ty Jerome hitting

0:27:30.560 --> 0:27:33.000
<v Speaker 3>that half court shot like at that point, Like, you know,

0:27:33.359 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 3>there are bad shooting elect games, and Miami had a

0:27:36.080 --> 0:27:38.880
<v Speaker 3>bad shooting lex series. But I think even with all

0:27:38.920 --> 0:27:41.040
<v Speaker 3>of that, when you're talking about a one twenty two

0:27:41.080 --> 0:27:44.080
<v Speaker 3>point margin and the fact that they probably shot a

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:47.240
<v Speaker 3>little over their skis, particularly in those first two games,

0:27:47.920 --> 0:27:51.480
<v Speaker 3>like this just wasn't particularly close, and you know, the

0:27:51.480 --> 0:27:54.080
<v Speaker 3>the Indiana Ranta was going on was actually a little

0:27:54.160 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 3>more about Hey, Like I understand that Miami was the

0:27:57.600 --> 0:28:00.280
<v Speaker 3>ten seed, but if you're talking about posts All Star

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 3>break Indiana and you know the challenge that they are

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:06.040
<v Speaker 3>going to bring, you also have to give credit to

0:28:06.160 --> 0:28:08.359
<v Speaker 3>what Miami had done down the stretch of this season

0:28:08.440 --> 0:28:12.879
<v Speaker 3>after you know, resolving that Jimmy Butler situation. So I

0:28:12.920 --> 0:28:16.879
<v Speaker 3>think the Cavs acquitted themselves incredibly well. DeAndre Hunter, I

0:28:16.880 --> 0:28:19.040
<v Speaker 3>think deserves a ton of credit, going all four in

0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.200
<v Speaker 3>game one, the rest of the series, sixteen of twenty

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:24.280
<v Speaker 3>nine and eight of thirteen from three.

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:27.440
<v Speaker 1>Like, yeah, felt you felt him, You felt his impact,

0:28:27.440 --> 0:28:31.480
<v Speaker 1>you felt you know, I felt like when he got

0:28:31.520 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>to the team and they were on that crazy run,

0:28:34.880 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 1>he so often was the straw that broke the camel's back,

0:28:38.400 --> 0:28:41.440
<v Speaker 1>him and Tie, and like that is the fun of

0:28:41.520 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 1>having this two of those guys off the bench, you

0:28:44.040 --> 0:28:47.400
<v Speaker 1>know the fact that they can change the rhythm of

0:28:47.480 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 1>the game and also be part of the pylon. Mm hmm,

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:55.360
<v Speaker 1>because like it's happened both ways where he's come in

0:28:55.560 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>kept them that second quarter or that first shift in

0:28:58.920 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Game two, sorry, where he hit a couple threes, just

0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:06.280
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get them in motion after a pretty

0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.840
<v Speaker 1>sloggy first six to seven minutes of that game. So

0:29:10.080 --> 0:29:11.840
<v Speaker 1>he can kind of get you out of the rup,

0:29:11.880 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 1>but he can also take you over the top and

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:18.480
<v Speaker 1>take a game from like semi competitive to over in

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:21.800
<v Speaker 1>very very short order. I thought this was one of

0:29:21.800 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 1>his I think this was one of his very best

0:29:23.840 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 1>games as a cavalier. Dominant on both ends of the floor. Man,

0:29:30.880 --> 0:29:35.480
<v Speaker 1>they're so good. So what would you guess?

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 3>I'm going to tell you what the on court net

0:29:38.160 --> 0:29:42.880
<v Speaker 3>ratings were for Donovan in these games in Miami in particular,

0:29:43.040 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 3>So Evan was plus thirty when he was on court

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 3>in terms of net rating. Donovan was plus thirty six

0:29:48.640 --> 0:29:51.120
<v Speaker 3>for on court net rating. What would you guess? Ti

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.680
<v Speaker 3>Jerome and DeAndre Hunters were at for the two games

0:29:54.680 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 3>in Miami plus forty. So Ti Jerome had a plus

0:30:00.960 --> 0:30:05.800
<v Speaker 3>seventy three net rating for the games in Miami and

0:30:05.840 --> 0:30:08.960
<v Speaker 3>DeAndre Hunter had a plus sixty net rating.

0:30:09.200 --> 0:30:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that's absurd. A blood bath.

0:30:15.120 --> 0:30:18.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Jared was up there too. Jared was a plus

0:30:18.200 --> 0:30:21.200
<v Speaker 3>sixty his minutes and you know, one of the big

0:30:21.280 --> 0:30:24.479
<v Speaker 3>kind of tactical shifts as this series went to Miami.

0:30:24.520 --> 0:30:27.280
<v Speaker 3>You know, Kenny did a really good job changing up

0:30:27.320 --> 0:30:30.320
<v Speaker 3>the defensive coverages. We talked about how they applied full

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 3>court pressure, and you know, one of the reasons why

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.160
<v Speaker 3>I just never agreed with the whole Hey, the Caves

0:30:36.200 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 3>are peaking too soon conversations of the regular season is

0:30:40.400 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 3>you can't say that a team is peaking when the

0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:46.640
<v Speaker 3>stars are playing the lowest minutes of their career and

0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:50.960
<v Speaker 3>you know you're basically playing a base rotation every single game. No,

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 3>the Cavs had another gear to go to. They had

0:30:54.080 --> 0:30:57.120
<v Speaker 3>defensive wrinkles that we didn't see in the regular season.

0:30:57.400 --> 0:30:59.920
<v Speaker 3>We still have the option to shorten up the road,

0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 3>you know. It just it didn't make any damn sense

0:31:04.800 --> 0:31:08.440
<v Speaker 3>to me. And I'm losing my train of thought. I'll

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 3>be honest, I'm losing my train of thought. I was

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 3>going to bring that home to pick it right back,

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:12.479
<v Speaker 3>all right, thank you?

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.600
<v Speaker 1>Now, there there's so many fun stats coming out of

0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:21.440
<v Speaker 1>these two games in Miami. Donovan Mitchell and Evan Mobley

0:31:22.400 --> 0:31:25.520
<v Speaker 1>led the Cavaliers in minutes per game in these last

0:31:25.520 --> 0:31:30.600
<v Speaker 1>two games at twenty seven point three. Good lord, Like,

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:34.480
<v Speaker 1>that's the thing, bro. Not only are they gonna get

0:31:34.480 --> 0:31:38.040
<v Speaker 1>like a week of rest, like from just not playing

0:31:38.040 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>basketball for the last you know. They played Game two

0:31:42.560 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>in Cleveland on Wednesday, the twenty third, and Donovan has

0:31:48.000 --> 0:31:52.680
<v Speaker 1>played fifty four minutes and probably won't play another minute

0:31:52.800 --> 0:31:55.840
<v Speaker 1>till Saturday or sun Well, we know, won't play another

0:31:55.880 --> 0:31:59.760
<v Speaker 1>minute until Saturday the third or Sunday the fourth. Like

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:03.600
<v Speaker 1>you cannot buy better rest than that.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, it's you know, they're in a really really

0:32:08.760 --> 0:32:11.160
<v Speaker 3>good position obviously. I think that's gonna be a big

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:14.360
<v Speaker 3>benefit for Darius, who didn't you know, play in either

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:15.800
<v Speaker 3>game in Miami.

0:32:16.320 --> 0:32:18.520
<v Speaker 1>He's really that's really the only thing that you leave

0:32:18.560 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 1>this series being like, man, uh, you just hope it

0:32:22.160 --> 0:32:25.920
<v Speaker 1>gets better. You know, tos are messy. It's hard to

0:32:25.960 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>get off of them, uh you know, because you kind

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:33.760
<v Speaker 1>of use them for just standing and existing, so it's

0:32:33.800 --> 0:32:39.040
<v Speaker 1>really hard to rest them. But and you just kind

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:41.640
<v Speaker 1>of especially a guy who starts and stops and is

0:32:41.720 --> 0:32:45.480
<v Speaker 1>a balance based player like and on the left foot,

0:32:45.520 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 1>like that's kind of your your set foot for for

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, jump shots and things like that. So I'm

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:53.440
<v Speaker 1>not me, I'm a lefty, but you know, but yeah,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean you need it. You need that tell you

0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>need it to be working like and I will say

0:32:59.040 --> 0:33:01.480
<v Speaker 1>and if you're can we move into some pacers talk

0:33:01.560 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>real quick?

0:33:02.240 --> 0:33:04.440
<v Speaker 3>And I remembered, I remembered my train of thought. I

0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:06.920
<v Speaker 3>was going to I was going to land the plane.

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:10.280
<v Speaker 3>So the one of the adjustments that Kenny did make

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:14.959
<v Speaker 3>was Dean passed Isaac in the rotation. And you know,

0:33:15.320 --> 0:33:20.160
<v Speaker 3>in tonight's game, Isaac didn't play, and nobody really played

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:22.600
<v Speaker 3>outside the top eight until about the five minute mark

0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:25.600
<v Speaker 3>in the third quarter. It really seemed like Kenny tightened

0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:28.320
<v Speaker 3>up the rotation even though they were up by so much.

0:33:28.360 --> 0:33:30.880
<v Speaker 3>He was out for blood in this game. And I

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 3>thought it was really interesting because one of the kind

0:33:33.600 --> 0:33:36.800
<v Speaker 3>of the trickle down effects of not playing Isaac and

0:33:36.840 --> 0:33:39.320
<v Speaker 3>Dean moving up in the rotation is you're a whole

0:33:39.360 --> 0:33:41.400
<v Speaker 3>lot bigger. This is one of the things that we

0:33:41.440 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 3>had talked about a lot. And when I'm looking at,

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:46.280
<v Speaker 3>you know, those net ratings, I don't think it's a

0:33:46.320 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 3>coincidence that right at the top, are you know, TI,

0:33:50.240 --> 0:33:55.880
<v Speaker 3>DeAndre and Jared, Because that lineup of DeAndre Hunter, Dean Wade,

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.320
<v Speaker 3>and Jared Allen or Evan Mobley really with either of

0:33:59.320 --> 0:34:02.719
<v Speaker 3>those guys, and that is so much size, that is

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 3>so much length. Defensively, I really like that. I think

0:34:06.480 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 3>that might be an adjustment that's here to stay. Ind

0:34:09.160 --> 0:34:11.480
<v Speaker 3>he plays with a lot of athleticism. They have a

0:34:11.480 --> 0:34:13.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of length, and when you are able to combat

0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:16.600
<v Speaker 3>that with a lot of length yourself, I think that

0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 3>that's the way I lean.

0:34:18.040 --> 0:34:18.360
<v Speaker 2>Now.

0:34:18.760 --> 0:34:23.120
<v Speaker 3>The interesting thing here is with Darius not in the lineup,

0:34:23.440 --> 0:34:25.920
<v Speaker 3>that meant that Sam Marrol wasn't playing any small forward

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>right like he was primarily playing as a shooting guard.

0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:31.880
<v Speaker 3>He was playing alongside Ty Jerome. That allowed the Calves

0:34:31.880 --> 0:34:34.080
<v Speaker 3>to go a whole lot bigger. So it's not just

0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:37.280
<v Speaker 3>a question about you know, moving Isaac down the rotation

0:34:37.480 --> 0:34:40.640
<v Speaker 3>to you know, the ninth or tenth man spot. Is

0:34:40.719 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 3>Kenny going to go with that larger look and what

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.760
<v Speaker 3>implications does it have for everyone else in the rotation

0:34:47.080 --> 0:34:50.080
<v Speaker 3>because you know, Darius, Donovan and Tie are going to

0:34:50.080 --> 0:34:50.799
<v Speaker 3>be playing.

0:34:50.920 --> 0:34:53.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, especially I remember we talked about it a little

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.440
<v Speaker 1>bit in like the weeks leading into the playoffs, talking

0:34:57.480 --> 0:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>through the rotation, talking through some of our concerns with

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 1>Sam having to play minutes at the three and because

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:09.120
<v Speaker 1>of you know, Tie and Tie's emergence, and we kind

0:35:09.120 --> 0:35:11.279
<v Speaker 1>of said, like you might have to pick between one

0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:16.359
<v Speaker 1>or the other when things get tough, you know, and

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:20.120
<v Speaker 1>the teams start beating you up and you know, exposing

0:35:20.200 --> 0:35:24.200
<v Speaker 1>that that size disadvantage. And like I gotta say, like

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:28.160
<v Speaker 1>I thought Sam was great and this now, and I

0:35:28.200 --> 0:35:29.319
<v Speaker 1>think he can play verse Indy.

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:32.200
<v Speaker 3>I I think you can play him at small Ford

0:35:32.280 --> 0:35:36.280
<v Speaker 3>versus Indy. I'm not shortening the rotation. I'm not going

0:35:36.320 --> 0:35:38.719
<v Speaker 3>down to eight guys. Like I'm not suggesting, Hey, the

0:35:38.760 --> 0:35:41.120
<v Speaker 3>eight we played tonight, We're just going to swap Darius

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.640
<v Speaker 3>in for Sam kind of thing. I would still like

0:35:43.680 --> 0:35:43.960
<v Speaker 3>to be.

0:35:43.880 --> 0:35:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Playing nine and ten against Indiana, and I think we will.

0:35:47.480 --> 0:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>But what I was going to say is that I

0:35:49.280 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 1>don't think that we can't. Like there's no world in

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:55.560
<v Speaker 1>which I see Tie not being a member of this

0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>rotation until they lose, like literally till they're out of

0:35:59.040 --> 0:36:02.879
<v Speaker 1>the playoffs. No, because I just feel like he's earned it,

0:36:03.239 --> 0:36:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, you earn these kind of like he's at

0:36:06.640 --> 0:36:09.759
<v Speaker 1>a point where it would have to be like a

0:36:09.840 --> 0:36:13.840
<v Speaker 1>total disaster of a series for me to even consider

0:36:13.880 --> 0:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>cutting his minutes, because he's earned that equity.

0:36:17.400 --> 0:36:22.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Honestly, when we talk about the I guess the

0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.360
<v Speaker 3>top seven. Like if you're talking about the core for

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 3>Max Strus, Tijerome and DeAndre Hunter, those guys have equity

0:36:29.600 --> 0:36:32.800
<v Speaker 3>for me unavailable. If they go out and they shoot

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:35.440
<v Speaker 3>for twenty, I don't care, man, Like I one, I

0:36:35.480 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 3>trust these guys to be doing other things out there,

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 3>and hey, like maybe maybe it just wasn't off shooting

0:36:40.560 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 3>game like like Donovan had in Game three. That stuff happens.

0:36:44.560 --> 0:36:47.280
<v Speaker 3>I trust those top seven, and I'm riding with those guys.

0:36:47.320 --> 0:36:50.399
<v Speaker 3>To me, the question goes beyond that, right, Like if

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Kenny is going to pare down in any game in

0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:56.880
<v Speaker 3>you know, the semifinals or the Eastern Conference finals, if

0:36:56.920 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 3>the Gays are able to make it there, I'm interested

0:36:59.400 --> 0:37:02.200
<v Speaker 3>to see who the eight or nine are. I think

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:04.880
<v Speaker 3>that's kind of more my de note here and just

0:37:05.239 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 3>kind of the circumstances that allowed them to do that.

0:37:08.000 --> 0:37:12.600
<v Speaker 3>But I still keep coming back to I really like

0:37:12.680 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 3>when the Cavs play big. I think they have the

0:37:15.719 --> 0:37:19.040
<v Speaker 3>option to do so in the staggered lineups. I think

0:37:19.040 --> 0:37:21.240
<v Speaker 3>it helps them on the both ends of the glass.

0:37:21.280 --> 0:37:24.319
<v Speaker 3>I think it helps them play physically. You saw DeAndre

0:37:24.680 --> 0:37:28.440
<v Speaker 3>playing at small forward, capitalizing on mismatches man like, he's

0:37:28.520 --> 0:37:30.360
<v Speaker 3>able to put his back to the basket and score

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:32.680
<v Speaker 3>on guys. He's able to take advantage of his size.

0:37:32.880 --> 0:37:35.040
<v Speaker 3>He gets to the free throw line because they can't

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.640
<v Speaker 3>handle him at that size at the small forward position.

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.160
<v Speaker 3>Those are advantages he doesn't necessarily have when he's playing

0:37:41.200 --> 0:37:44.080
<v Speaker 3>at power forward. So that's one of those things that

0:37:44.080 --> 0:37:46.320
<v Speaker 3>I want to keep an eye on because if you're

0:37:46.640 --> 0:37:50.000
<v Speaker 3>asking me, what is the optimized version of this team

0:37:50.040 --> 0:37:53.000
<v Speaker 3>when we're putting our absolute best foot forward because we're

0:37:53.040 --> 0:37:54.600
<v Speaker 3>trying to beat a Boston, we're trying to be in

0:37:54.600 --> 0:37:57.840
<v Speaker 3>an OKC, we're trying to win a championship here. The

0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:03.840
<v Speaker 3>larger lineups when we are staggered are are what sticks

0:38:03.880 --> 0:38:06.440
<v Speaker 3>in my head as the best foot forward for the

0:38:06.480 --> 0:38:07.360
<v Speaker 3>Cleveland Cavaliers.

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:11.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what's the only time we will through this series? Mean,

0:38:11.480 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>you turn to each other and went, I don't know

0:38:13.480 --> 0:38:15.680
<v Speaker 1>about this lineup. It was, you know, when they were

0:38:15.719 --> 0:38:17.600
<v Speaker 1>playing Samo the three and I was I got the

0:38:17.600 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>four in Game two. I just think you're kind of

0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:26.960
<v Speaker 1>giving away what makes you so special is being big

0:38:27.160 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and skilled and athletic and switchable. And you know, so

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:36.080
<v Speaker 1>much has been made of this team's You know, so

0:38:36.160 --> 0:38:39.560
<v Speaker 1>much conversation has been made about this team's identity and

0:38:39.600 --> 0:38:42.759
<v Speaker 1>whether it works, whether it is too much of a

0:38:42.880 --> 0:38:49.319
<v Speaker 1>zag from the standard, which again talk about feeling validated.

0:38:49.400 --> 0:38:52.520
<v Speaker 1>You know, you got Houston running a double big, You've.

0:38:52.360 --> 0:38:57.480
<v Speaker 3>Got Miami drafted kill ware to okay see.

0:38:57.320 --> 0:39:00.279
<v Speaker 1>Ye okay see is playing too big Like so many

0:39:00.280 --> 0:39:02.960
<v Speaker 1>teams are now playing two bigs, which goes to show

0:39:03.000 --> 0:39:06.880
<v Speaker 1>you that maybe old Justin and Carter had some good ideas.

0:39:07.440 --> 0:39:11.880
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I just think that at the end

0:39:11.920 --> 0:39:14.319
<v Speaker 1>of the day, I'm always gonna like when this team

0:39:14.440 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 1>leans into what makes them special and what makes them unique,

0:39:19.640 --> 0:39:23.359
<v Speaker 1>because I think that's their superpower. You know, you never

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:26.360
<v Speaker 1>want to run away from your superpower. So I'm excited

0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to see how they match up in the next series.

0:39:28.160 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>I do think it could be a little bit assuming

0:39:31.480 --> 0:39:34.799
<v Speaker 1>it's going to be Indy. That series isn't over yet,

0:39:34.800 --> 0:39:36.799
<v Speaker 1>but assuming it is, I do think it could be

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.120
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a shock to the system. I think

0:39:39.120 --> 0:39:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it can go sick is going to be a huge jump.

0:39:43.320 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 3>Yes, I think it can go six. I think, you know,

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.080
<v Speaker 3>the same way that going into the series, I thought

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:52.839
<v Speaker 3>four or five based on how serious the Cavs are,

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 3>how they're able to execute, do they have a cold

0:39:54.840 --> 0:39:57.799
<v Speaker 3>shooting night. Those kind of factors, to me, are the

0:39:57.800 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 3>difference between five and six. Obviously, you know, if Darius

0:40:01.680 --> 0:40:03.759
<v Speaker 3>misses extended time in that series and then has to

0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:06.400
<v Speaker 3>come in midway through, you know, not really able to

0:40:06.440 --> 0:40:09.279
<v Speaker 3>do conditioning with a toe injury, I think that could

0:40:09.280 --> 0:40:12.000
<v Speaker 3>put them in a really difficult spot. So we'll wait

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 3>for updates on that. But I think, you know, if

0:40:16.800 --> 0:40:20.000
<v Speaker 3>once again having a week off benefits this team a lot.

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:22.319
<v Speaker 3>They're able to get practices and they're able to prep,

0:40:22.320 --> 0:40:25.439
<v Speaker 3>and they come out with a necessary seriousness, I think

0:40:25.680 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 3>it would be a five or six game series. I

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:29.440
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of respect for Indiana. They got some

0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:34.400
<v Speaker 3>good wins. They pushed teams, they don't quit. But I

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:36.799
<v Speaker 3>think what you said about the Cavs leaning into what

0:40:36.840 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 3>makes them special is kind of like the final takeaway

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:41.560
<v Speaker 3>that I want to have from this Miami series, which

0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 3>is we wanted to see the offense translate to the postseason.

0:40:46.280 --> 0:40:48.400
<v Speaker 3>We saw that it was the greatest offensive rating in

0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.640
<v Speaker 3>a series in NBA history. We wanted to see Evan

0:40:51.640 --> 0:40:54.399
<v Speaker 3>Mobley rise to the occasion against maam Adebayo. He had

0:40:54.400 --> 0:40:56.640
<v Speaker 3>a quiet first game. I thought he outplayed him the

0:40:56.640 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 3>rest of the series. I thought he was the most

0:40:59.000 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 3>impactful defensive. I thought he was terrific offensively. He had

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:06.880
<v Speaker 3>that drive in poster dunk in this game that moved me.

0:41:08.400 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 3>I'm still rattled by it. I thought Evan was absolutely terrific.

0:41:12.960 --> 0:41:14.840
<v Speaker 3>But the other thing that we said going into the

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:18.440
<v Speaker 3>series is will they impose their style of play on Miami.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 3>Eric Spolster is one of the best at adjustments, getting

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:24.680
<v Speaker 3>you out of your comfort zone, getting you to play

0:41:24.719 --> 0:41:28.200
<v Speaker 3>Miami Heat basketball. That's how they beat Boston and Boston

0:41:28.280 --> 0:41:31.919
<v Speaker 3>last year, even without Jimmy Butler. They dragged Boston into

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.239
<v Speaker 3>their style of game. They took them out of their

0:41:34.280 --> 0:41:37.960
<v Speaker 3>comfort zone. They got them no longer playing Celtics basketball.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.600
<v Speaker 3>The Cavs played Cleveland Cavalier basketball for four straight games,

0:41:41.800 --> 0:41:44.040
<v Speaker 3>and they crushed the spirit of the Miami Heat because

0:41:44.080 --> 0:41:46.319
<v Speaker 3>they couldn't do anything to change the way that they

0:41:46.360 --> 0:41:49.600
<v Speaker 3>were playing. Now, you have to build upon that. You

0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:51.759
<v Speaker 3>have laid a foundation here in the first round. You

0:41:51.800 --> 0:41:56.000
<v Speaker 3>are making the semifinals for the second consecutive year. That's

0:41:56.000 --> 0:41:58.520
<v Speaker 3>a hell of an accomplishment, but you have bigger goals.

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 3>Can you build up on that foundation and continue to

0:42:02.640 --> 0:42:06.280
<v Speaker 3>reach higher levels and continue to have more success against

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 3>tougher competition. I'm so damn excited to see what this

0:42:09.760 --> 0:42:10.960
<v Speaker 3>team's going to do next round.

0:42:11.520 --> 0:42:16.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, me too. And I really do think they showed

0:42:16.320 --> 0:42:20.359
<v Speaker 1>exactly who we thought they were, or maybe even who

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:21.279
<v Speaker 1>we wanted them to be.

0:42:22.320 --> 0:42:24.480
<v Speaker 3>I think, like who I believe they could be. That's

0:42:24.800 --> 0:42:26.440
<v Speaker 3>that's the way I will frame.

0:42:26.200 --> 0:42:32.960
<v Speaker 1>That, and it is as encouraging as a first round

0:42:33.040 --> 0:42:35.920
<v Speaker 1>series against you know, a ten seed can be. All

0:42:35.960 --> 0:42:38.160
<v Speaker 1>that stuff matters. I do think there's going to be

0:42:38.160 --> 0:42:40.279
<v Speaker 1>a bit of a shock to the system when they

0:42:40.320 --> 0:42:43.360
<v Speaker 1>go play a team with more options, more levers to pull,

0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:46.680
<v Speaker 1>mismatched killers, you know.

0:42:48.040 --> 0:42:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Frankly a higher IQ ball handler. Miami doesn't really have

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:54.200
<v Speaker 3>a true point guard Tyler Hero, you know, he did

0:42:54.239 --> 0:42:57.520
<v Speaker 3>his best, but Harry's Halliburn's a basketball savant, Like he's

0:42:57.520 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 3>going to find open shooters and they have a lot,

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 3>a lot of very willing shooters out there, right.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:05.960
<v Speaker 1>They have multiple on seventy two percent of their field

0:43:06.000 --> 0:43:11.000
<v Speaker 1>goals in this series against Milwaukee, and like I and

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:13.040
<v Speaker 1>but you know, as much as I'll say the Calves

0:43:13.040 --> 0:43:15.200
<v Speaker 1>are going to have a wake up, I think Indiana

0:43:15.560 --> 0:43:18.160
<v Speaker 1>is going to have a wake up because you're not

0:43:18.239 --> 0:43:23.000
<v Speaker 1>attacking Brook Lopez and Kevin Porter Junior in Bobby Portis,

0:43:23.239 --> 0:43:26.719
<v Speaker 1>guys who cannot move with you, cannot understand the game

0:43:26.760 --> 0:43:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at the level of you, like Calves can match that

0:43:30.560 --> 0:43:34.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of stuff. And I do think for both teams.

0:43:35.040 --> 0:43:37.040
<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't and we're going to dive into this. We're

0:43:37.040 --> 0:43:39.239
<v Speaker 1>gonna do a more thorough preview once that series wrap.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>But like I think for both teams we're going to

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:49.560
<v Speaker 1>see a healthy offensive drop off because of the ways

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>that the other team is capable of challenging them in

0:43:53.480 --> 0:43:57.520
<v Speaker 1>ways their first round opponent was not. And of course,

0:43:57.680 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 1>of course the Calves eventually there's gonna have a drop off.

0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:04.239
<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna put up one thirty six for all

0:44:04.280 --> 0:44:08.359
<v Speaker 1>the way to the finals. But like, I just think

0:44:08.360 --> 0:44:10.880
<v Speaker 1>both teams have a lot of interesting levers to pull.

0:44:11.080 --> 0:44:14.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm actually really geeked if it's Indiana. I think they

0:44:14.320 --> 0:44:16.640
<v Speaker 1>are the best test of any of the second round

0:44:16.640 --> 0:44:22.000
<v Speaker 1>teams Andy, Milwaukee, Detroit, New York. Like you know of

0:44:22.480 --> 0:44:25.400
<v Speaker 1>anyone that other than Boston that could have been played

0:44:26.480 --> 0:44:28.960
<v Speaker 1>by the Calves. I think Indy is the toughest matchup

0:44:29.000 --> 0:44:31.880
<v Speaker 1>for them, and I think, like you know, if I

0:44:31.920 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>felt like my ceiling raised after this first round dominant

0:44:38.360 --> 0:44:41.720
<v Speaker 1>series against Miami, if they go out and dominate Indy,

0:44:42.120 --> 0:44:47.240
<v Speaker 1>then I'm going off the rails with this hype because

0:44:47.360 --> 0:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>I you know, you said you think Indy can take

0:44:49.719 --> 0:44:52.759
<v Speaker 1>it six. I think they can take it seven. I

0:44:52.800 --> 0:44:55.719
<v Speaker 1>will not be picking that. But like I have so

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:58.880
<v Speaker 1>much respect for Brick Carlisle, I have so much respect

0:44:59.080 --> 0:45:01.200
<v Speaker 1>for their point of his hack defenders. I have so

0:45:01.280 --> 0:45:04.000
<v Speaker 1>much respect for Pascal Siakam, who is the guy who

0:45:04.120 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 1>our guys have trouble with, and it is a real

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:13.160
<v Speaker 1>blender in the post that can really muck up a

0:45:13.200 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>switch heavy scheme because you cannot switch your guards onto him.

0:45:18.160 --> 0:45:20.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, I was hanging in a playback room with

0:45:20.960 --> 0:45:25.320
<v Speaker 1>the Dunker Spot boys and Steve was getting really frustrated

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.680
<v Speaker 1>with Bam for not asserting in the post demanding the

0:45:29.719 --> 0:45:35.839
<v Speaker 1>ball against mismatches not gonna happen with Pascal Siakam. Ye like,

0:45:36.080 --> 0:45:38.520
<v Speaker 1>he will make sure he gets the ball. He will

0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:41.040
<v Speaker 1>spin mote, move you into hell and he will get

0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a bucket or a foul and you know, the machine

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:47.080
<v Speaker 1>gets going from there. So, like, I think they present

0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:49.720
<v Speaker 1>a ton of really good challenges for us. I'm really

0:45:49.760 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>really excited about how they confront those. I think if

0:45:54.520 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 1>they win a hard fought series, I won't think any

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:02.439
<v Speaker 1>less of them. But if they dominate Indy, well, I'm honestly, dude,

0:46:02.480 --> 0:46:03.920
<v Speaker 1>I'll probably pick them against Boston.

0:46:05.560 --> 0:46:07.440
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I'm going to pick them against Boston because

0:46:07.480 --> 0:46:10.440
<v Speaker 3>I'm me. I'm just going to do that. But I

0:46:10.719 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 3>think you know, your point about it's going to be

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:15.440
<v Speaker 3>a wake up call for them really rings true for me.

0:46:16.280 --> 0:46:19.880
<v Speaker 3>Like you look at post All Star Break where Indiana

0:46:19.920 --> 0:46:22.160
<v Speaker 3>made their run, like their neck and neck in terms

0:46:22.200 --> 0:46:25.000
<v Speaker 3>of net rating with the Milwaukee Bucks in the Miami Heat.

0:46:25.680 --> 0:46:30.279
<v Speaker 3>The gap between the Indiana Pacers net rating on the

0:46:30.280 --> 0:46:34.440
<v Speaker 3>season and the Miami Heat, the gap between India and

0:46:34.520 --> 0:46:37.520
<v Speaker 3>Cleveland's is four and a half times larger than the

0:46:37.520 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 3>gap between Indiana and Miami. When you're talking about level

0:46:40.040 --> 0:46:43.359
<v Speaker 3>of competition, and of course you know Milwaukee was right

0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:46.600
<v Speaker 3>there along those guys. The Cavs are going to have

0:46:46.600 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 3>to play like it though, Like they are going to

0:46:49.200 --> 0:46:52.360
<v Speaker 3>have to play at their absolute best. We saw Indiana

0:46:52.920 --> 0:46:55.560
<v Speaker 3>RaSE a large lead with tyres Helbern out of the

0:46:55.600 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 3>game and ultimately win. Right Like, no lead is going

0:46:58.640 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 3>to be safe against Indiana going to take forty eight

0:47:01.280 --> 0:47:04.120
<v Speaker 3>minutes of focus. And what I hope is that the

0:47:04.239 --> 0:47:06.680
<v Speaker 3>lesson we learned in game two and applied to games

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:08.799
<v Speaker 3>three and four, where we kept our foot on the

0:47:08.840 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 3>gas and said, hey, if we just play hard, if

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 3>we don't take the last twelve minutes off and we

0:47:16.280 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>play hard, we are going to have more time off

0:47:19.040 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 3>as a result of that. If they take that lesson

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.160
<v Speaker 3>and apply it to the Pacers series and execute the

0:47:24.200 --> 0:47:27.200
<v Speaker 3>way that we know that they're capable of, like you said,

0:47:27.520 --> 0:47:29.560
<v Speaker 3>it's going to turn a lot of skeptics into believers

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.840
<v Speaker 3>because that is an indie team that has been playing

0:47:32.120 --> 0:47:34.600
<v Speaker 3>at a high, high level. Any closing thoughts before we

0:47:34.640 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 3>wrap this one up, Buddy, just.

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>Again, just really grateful for this team. I just think

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:47.799
<v Speaker 1>they're it's a really special group, a group that is

0:47:47.920 --> 0:47:50.920
<v Speaker 1>deserving of our affection, you know, at the end of

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the day, like they're just you don't get to see

0:47:55.600 --> 0:48:03.800
<v Speaker 1>this that often, and and the fact that they're dis likable,

0:48:04.400 --> 0:48:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you know, the fact that that after a thump your

0:48:10.200 --> 0:48:15.080
<v Speaker 1>chest dominant two games, the first thing Donovan Mitchell does

0:48:15.080 --> 0:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>in his postgame interview with Dennis Scott is sending love

0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:22.840
<v Speaker 1>to Kevin love after after you know, I lost the family.

0:48:22.920 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 1>Like that is such a likable, root for able team. Yeah,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:33.200
<v Speaker 1>and they're all like that and like, you know sometimes

0:48:33.239 --> 0:48:36.759
<v Speaker 1>that kind of stuff is press clipping stuff. Yeah, but

0:48:36.920 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>like when we go to the office and we go

0:48:39.719 --> 0:48:41.880
<v Speaker 1>talk to the people who work with this team. You know,

0:48:41.920 --> 0:48:44.680
<v Speaker 1>we're not there every day, but when we do go there,

0:48:45.320 --> 0:48:49.560
<v Speaker 1>everyone is like, these dudes are awesome, Like like up

0:48:49.600 --> 0:48:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and down the roster, you know, these dudes are awesome.

0:48:52.200 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>I asked Sam Merrill, like, hey, you know a lot

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:59.279
<v Speaker 1>of teams that have a weird season, they come back,

0:48:59.800 --> 0:49:04.320
<v Speaker 1>the whole team gets brought back. It's and it becomes

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.880
<v Speaker 1>immediately clear Nope, that team was done.

0:49:07.160 --> 0:49:07.360
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:49:07.440 --> 0:49:09.879
<v Speaker 1>You think of those Lob City Clippers teams that were

0:49:09.920 --> 0:49:12.600
<v Speaker 1>like hung around a year too long and you could

0:49:12.600 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 1>tell it was just miserable wedding. And I was like, Sam,

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:18.040
<v Speaker 1>why didn't that happen to you? And he goes, because

0:49:18.040 --> 0:49:23.200
<v Speaker 1>we're all really good dudes, like and like you just can't.

0:49:23.400 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 1>You can't understate how important it is both to the

0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:33.319
<v Speaker 1>team's structural success and what it is to root for them.

0:49:33.640 --> 0:49:36.880
<v Speaker 3>You know, I'm not taking any of this for granted,

0:49:37.320 --> 0:49:40.560
<v Speaker 3>because when twenty eighteen came to a close, we never

0:49:40.640 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 3>knew if we were going to get a team this

0:49:42.040 --> 0:49:44.759
<v Speaker 3>good again. We never we were hoping, you know, for

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:47.520
<v Speaker 3>a team that could make a conference finals like that.

0:49:47.520 --> 0:49:49.000
<v Speaker 3>That was kind of the goal, like, hey, can we

0:49:49.000 --> 0:49:51.440
<v Speaker 3>be the grind and grind Grizzlies, And we got a

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 3>team that can legitimately, you know, contend for a championship.

0:49:54.400 --> 0:49:58.279
<v Speaker 3>And windows are never as large as you think they are.

0:49:59.640 --> 0:50:01.719
<v Speaker 3>You know, good times never lasts as long as you

0:50:01.760 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 3>think they're going to. You have to live in the

0:50:04.400 --> 0:50:06.480
<v Speaker 3>moment and you have to appreciate every single thing for

0:50:06.520 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 3>what it is. And you know, when you're coming off

0:50:08.640 --> 0:50:12.400
<v Speaker 3>a historic season, you get a historic playoff series. You

0:50:12.560 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 3>have so much fun in the playoffs, which is usually

0:50:16.239 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 3>the time where you know, I'm I'm losing my mind

0:50:18.960 --> 0:50:21.640
<v Speaker 3>and adding to this wonderful collection of gray hairs that

0:50:21.680 --> 0:50:25.480
<v Speaker 3>I have. You know, it's it's a really, really special thing,

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.480
<v Speaker 3>and I truly appreciate it. I truly appreciate everyone that's

0:50:28.520 --> 0:50:30.919
<v Speaker 3>you know, been along on the ride with us. Big

0:50:30.960 --> 0:50:33.000
<v Speaker 3>thanks to everyone tuning in live on YouTube. We really

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