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Speaker 1: It is Monday, December. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans and now a

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Speaker 1: guy who successfully had Michael Strahan going into space before

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Speaker 1: Kim Kardashian became a lawyer. J P. Jack. You heard

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Speaker 1: it here first, it came true. Welcome in. It's Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. On a Monday afternoon busy program. As usual,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports senior writer Pete Prisco, joining us Pride of

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars left tackle Tony Boselli, will review Week fourteen

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Speaker 1: Titans twenty Jaguars nothing. Urban Meyer taking some heat again

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Speaker 1: after some weekend reports offense was shut out in the game,

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Speaker 1: the defense fault the best they could. Draft talk begins.

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Speaker 1: Because the Jaguars has been officially a Liven add from

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Speaker 1: the postseason, social media questions will go around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: In Week four, team Let's review the Titans over the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars twenty to nothing, the Jaguars second five game losing

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Speaker 1: streak of the season. The jack shut out for the

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Speaker 1: first time since two thousand nine, held under two hundred

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Speaker 1: yards for the third time this season and now in

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Speaker 1: back to back games, and the worst part of it

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Speaker 1: a franchise record low eight rushing yards on a franchise

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Speaker 1: record low eight rushing attempts, seven of those by running backs.

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Speaker 1: This performance after the weekend report by Tom Pelli Sero

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Speaker 1: of NFL Media of discontent and tension boiling over the coaches, players,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Urban Meyer, and then Urban after the

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Speaker 1: game on his conversations with owner Shot Khan and Urban's

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Speaker 1: belief on getting this turned around, I assured him that

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Speaker 1: we I still believe in my heart we will. How fast,

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Speaker 1: you know, that depends on Once again, I still think

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Speaker 1: there's good pieces you watch, don't you watch out there

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Speaker 1: today Miles Jack and that defense and some of those kids.

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Speaker 1: Uh Roy smoot, I mean I was those guys are

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Speaker 1: playing their tails off. You get a couple of scores

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Speaker 1: on offense, you're right there, and we didn't do it.

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Speaker 1: So what's the answer start leaking information or some nonsense. No, No,

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Speaker 1: that's nonsense, that's garbage, that's you know, that's once again,

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Speaker 1: I've been very blessed. I'm not really dealt with that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not dealt with Well did you hear what he said? What? No,

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Speaker 1: let's improve on offense and get our quarterback in a

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Speaker 1: position to be successful. That's our focus. What someone's brother

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Speaker 1: said or someone said, someone said that will that occupy

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Speaker 1: very little my time. And if if there is a source,

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Speaker 1: that source is unemployed, I mean within seconds. If there's

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Speaker 1: some source that's doing it, that's Urban Meyer yesterday, Tony

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Speaker 1: Boselli and Pete Prisco with us now here on Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. Good afternoon, Tony, good afternoon. Well there is

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Speaker 1: a source, to be clear, I mean, let's be clear.

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Speaker 1: I mean, and I appreciate what Urban said, but Tom

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Speaker 1: peal Sero is a national writer that's pretty well respected.

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Speaker 1: And Jason Locha Ford, which I know everyone can't stand

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville best, but is also we're so Tom Pella

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Speaker 1: Serlo with the NFL dot Com, Jason Loaf with CBS Sports,

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Speaker 1: which is Pete's company, UM employer. Like, these are respectable

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Speaker 1: guys that typically and I'll let Pete speak to this,

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Speaker 1: don't report stuff unless they have confirmed sources in a building.

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Speaker 1: So it's either coming from the building or it's coming

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Speaker 1: through an agent that got it from their client in

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Speaker 1: the building. So there's sources. I mean, there's I mean,

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Speaker 1: now Urban has said the whole thing is not true

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Speaker 1: about the Marvin Jones. He said that today again in

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Speaker 1: his press conference. Um, and I'm not here to say

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Speaker 1: I'm just telling you what's out there is and so

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Speaker 1: he's denying it. Tom Pella Sero doubled down. The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is this, in my opinion, like this thing is

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Speaker 1: not working right now. I mean, you are. You're regressing

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Speaker 1: as an offense, your first overall pick is regressing as

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Speaker 1: a player. You have scored nine points a game since

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Speaker 1: the Bay. You have talked about wanting to rush the ball,

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Speaker 1: and you ran it eight times. They had six rushes

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Speaker 1: JP and I don't because I heard Urban today and

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Speaker 1: I disagree with them. Well, the game gets out of hand,

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Speaker 1: No, no no, no, no, it was a ten nothing game

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Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter and you would

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Speaker 1: run the ball six times. That doesn't line up. And so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, those are the things that are going on.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about it all today. But it's uh, there's

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Speaker 1: not a lot of happiness in Paradise right now. Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: good afternoon to you. What is up? Look, their journalists

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Speaker 1: players aren't thrilled with Urban Meyer. I mean that was

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Speaker 1: And to say that journalists or whoever make it up

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Speaker 1: Sports HQ. Over the last four months, there have been instances,

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Speaker 1: there have been issues, players griping, moaning grown it. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's happened. For him to say he's not concerned about it, Okay,

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Speaker 1: maybe he isn't. That's the same as Tom Coughlin used

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Speaker 1: course they're concerned about it. Um, that's the way of life.

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Speaker 1: It is. And I've had many of talk with coaches.

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Speaker 1: I said this to him, I go, why would you

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Speaker 1: it's not made up. Let's be real, it's not made up.

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Speaker 1: So how can you prove it's made up? You can't.

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Speaker 1: If you go ask Marvin Jones if it's if he

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Speaker 1: had that incident an issue with Urban, what's he gonna say? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I did, then Urban's lion. No, I didn't. Then Pallasaro

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Speaker 1: You can't deny that in Urban. If he was truthful,

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Speaker 1: It just isn't now. Whether he can fix that, who knows.

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Speaker 1: Who knows, And whether Sean Khan wants him to fix it,

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Speaker 1: But like this much, I know Trevor Lawrence is rotting

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Speaker 1: This is something that I think which should be should happen.

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. Who is the franchise. He is the friend.

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Speaker 1: And if there eroting his skills and letting all his

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Speaker 1: to shot Khan and his agent. They need to go

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Speaker 1: to shot Khan and they need to sit down and say,

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Speaker 1: then that's on them. We don't decide who gets fired.

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Speaker 1: There's no other way to describe it. And here's the

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Speaker 1: worst thing about it. I've been around that team since

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Speaker 1: the first guy was around those people all my life.

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Speaker 1: I was around Tom Coughin day in and day out.

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Speaker 1: He was an obsession of mine. And I've been around

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Speaker 1: a joke because there's a passionate fan base there, you know, nationally,

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Speaker 1: Oh there's a who goes to their games. Let me,

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Speaker 1: you guys know, and the generation that's now, they're now,

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Speaker 1: they're die hard fans. They grew up with it. They

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Speaker 1: they care. And I never have ever seen it this

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Speaker 1: they've ever had, It's never been this bad. And that's

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Speaker 1: the problem because I think the tickets are not gonna

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Speaker 1: they won't go buy tickets. It's a bad fan base. No,

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Speaker 1: pay attention. That's Pete Prisco CBS Sports. Well, it's it's frustrating.

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Speaker 1: It's frustrating for all sides. Absolutely frustrating as the frustrated

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Speaker 1: I mean, Urban said something I agree with, like when

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Speaker 1: I tend to agree with Pete. Where they're smoked, there's fire.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of a lot of chirping going on,

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Speaker 1: they scored zero. You have no no identity. I can't

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Speaker 1: They didn't do it, they didn't try to do it.

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Speaker 1: like you have to keep going and you're like, it's

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Speaker 1: okay to run on second and ten when your defense

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Speaker 1: and you watched the game and I call the games.

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Speaker 1: It's like, what are we doing, what's the game plan,

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Speaker 1: what's her identity? What are we trying to do to

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Speaker 1: help six? And it's been this JP. I've been consistent

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Speaker 1: with this from the first day when we threw it

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Speaker 1: fifty one times against Houston. I thought it was absolutely

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Speaker 1: ridiculous that your best player, James Robinson, and you're not

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Speaker 1: feeding them and working through him. And they've yet to

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Speaker 1: I don't understand it. I don't know what they're trying

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna go down. But the scariest thing about

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Speaker 1: it is what if he doesn't know the answers. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's all another issue, Pete. If that's the fact, I'm

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Speaker 1: giving him the benefit of doubt that he knows the

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Speaker 1: answer and he just doesn't want to answer it, that's

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Speaker 1: the scary part if he doesn't know the answer. One

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Speaker 1: thing he said yesterday, he never had to deal with

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Speaker 1: this before the leaks or whatever, because he let me

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Speaker 1: tell you something, there's a big difference between covering college

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Speaker 1: football covering the NFL, and I know I've done both.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a different animal. It's entire and particularly

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Speaker 1: at Ohio State, where everything's great, you're winning. At Florida,

434
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Speaker 1: where everything's great, you're winning, it's a different, different animal.

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Speaker 1: You're dealing with sheltered college kids who get very little

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Speaker 1: access and very little that you know. You don't deal

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Speaker 1: with the agent and everything else. Well, here you're dealing

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Speaker 1: with players who are men. A you want to be

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Speaker 1: treated like men, and B you have agents like Tony

440
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Speaker 1: talked about, you have periphery people that are involved, and

441
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Speaker 1: there's more. You're gonna get stuff out. That's why you've

442
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: never had to deal with this. How many guys carvered

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Speaker 1: Ohio State on a daily basis day in and day out.

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Speaker 1: One two maybe be guys and nationally, yeah, they were

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Speaker 1: a big program, but there's so any of them that

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Speaker 1: you don't necessarily focus in on that one. And so

447
00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: now in the NFL is like thirty two national writers.

448
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Speaker 1: There's a ton of them National you know, TV people everywhere,

449
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of them, and there's more people around

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Speaker 1: in the city that are there every day, so you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with that constantly. It is a different thing, and

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Speaker 1: I've covered both of them, Tony, it's entirely different. But Pete,

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Speaker 1: don't you think it's like some of the problem is

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Speaker 1: sometimes not just giving clear, concise answers like this is

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Speaker 1: what we're doing, is where we're going. It's my decision,

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Speaker 1: like what I'm the James Robinson, my decision not to

457
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Speaker 1: play or I'm not getting to it. It's a coach's decision.

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Speaker 1: That's why, Like one thing about Tom would answer them,

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Speaker 1: would answer the question as as maniacal as he was,

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Speaker 1: he would answer the question, no, no, we didn't go there.

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Speaker 1: But this is the reason why we didn't think we

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Speaker 1: could run the ball. We didn't want to run the ball.

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Speaker 1: It was our prode. We came in with a plan

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball next time, We're gonna run the

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Speaker 1: ball better. Boom and the story. You got your answer

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Speaker 1: and you moved on. So I think that's part of

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Speaker 1: so until I walked down the hall with him and

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Speaker 1: grated him the entire time, of course you didn't, Pete.

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Speaker 1: I'm curious, like like just as a test case, like

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Speaker 1: putting you in the press conference, like rewinding the tape,

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Speaker 1: of like letting Pete to tend the press conference and

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Speaker 1: ask questions. Is the beat writer. I don't think anyone

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Speaker 1: know what. I never liked. I never liked asking him

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Speaker 1: in that setting because then those guys always got my

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Speaker 1: material on TV before I could get into paper the

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Speaker 1: next day. Remember, So I'd wait and walk down the

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Speaker 1: hallway with Tom stop and talk to him and asking

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Speaker 1: my questions, let him scream and yell at me for

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Speaker 1: whatever reason, and then I got my story because I

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Speaker 1: didn't want to ask the questions, so everybody else had them.

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Speaker 1: So I didn't ask him in that You're you're sneaky Pete.

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Speaker 1: You are sneaky, sneaky Pete. That's good, that's good, peat guy,

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Speaker 1: sneak Pete. I like I like that. Last week it

484
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Speaker 1: was Flipper, snee Flipper. We keep adding names up for Pete.

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Speaker 1: Let's come back in the moment. We're gonna here from

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Speaker 1: the quarterback Trevor Lawrence on the four interception game yesterday,

487
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Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball played. Okay, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that coming up. Draft talk we'll commence tonight the Jaguars

489
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: have been officially eliminated from the playoffs, and then the

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Speaker 1: second hour, your social media questions and much more. It

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Speaker 1: is Jaguars Happy Hour, presented by Jet Home Loans on

492
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. We had a couple of couple

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Speaker 1: of calls that killed some momentum. Have to look at up.

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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they were bad calls, but just you

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Speaker 1: look at it. You know, we had a big play

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Speaker 1: and there's a whole wink call brings it back. So

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Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta be more, you know, we gotta

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Speaker 1: be better with penalties, like we've said earlier in the

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Speaker 1: year as well, and then for me, I just gotta

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Speaker 1: finish better. We're gonna keep playing. Like I said, I

501
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Speaker 1: felt really good at being of the game. I thought

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Speaker 1: we were doing a good job taking with the defense

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Speaker 1: has given us. I felt like we were on all

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Speaker 1: of our assignments, and I just got away from us

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Speaker 1: in the end. And I didn't think we played, um

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Speaker 1: a full game at all. Obviously you can tell that.

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Speaker 1: But um, we gotta help our defense. You know, they

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Speaker 1: kept us in the game, gave us plenty of chances

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Speaker 1: and didn't We didn't do anything with it. So that's

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence. After the game in Nashville. He was twenty

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Speaker 1: four or forty passing two d twenty one yards, a

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Speaker 1: career high, four interceptions, thirty five and a half rating.

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Speaker 1: Ran the ball once for two yards. That's what of

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Speaker 1: the rushing yards for the Jags yesterday. It's a good job,

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Speaker 1: thank you, matth Um. So there you go. Fourteen picks

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Speaker 1: for the season. Trevor Lawrence struggle yesterday. Now you know,

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Speaker 1: he also said that, you know, a couple of tip balls,

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Speaker 1: should not should have made the catch on one, two

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00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: or just kind of bad decisions and you know, so

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Speaker 1: it's kind of a mixed bag in the interceptions department yesterday.

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Speaker 1: They all count on his ledger though, welcome back. It's

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Speaker 1: Seaguars Happy hour. J P Shadrick, Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli

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Speaker 1: recapping a twenty to nothing loss. They need to score.

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Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. Like I and I

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Speaker 1: get what Trevor is saying, and I can't even magine,

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Speaker 1: you know, the difficult how difficult this is for him,

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Speaker 1: first of all, pick all the pressure, wanting it to

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Speaker 1: be good, wanting to be the guy, wanting to come

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Speaker 1: to this organization to change things in it being worse

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Speaker 1: than ever. That's that's not easy, and I feel for him.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is, even at the beginning, it wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: We're moving the ball. With four minutes left in the

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Speaker 1: first half, he had thirty three net yards. It was

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Speaker 1: it was never good. Like I heard her would say, well,

535
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Speaker 1: they were weird fishing and passing the game. What does that?

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? When you don't score points and

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Speaker 1: you have thirty three net yards? Nothing is good. It

538
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: wasn't good, like there was nothing good. And I watched

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Speaker 1: it today on tape and it was it was awful.

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00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: It's nothing good. These guys don't get open. The offensive

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Speaker 1: line was awful and detection at times. Andrew doing well.

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Speaker 1: The last couple of weeks has been can never to

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Speaker 1: stop testing me and tweeting me about the offensive line.

544
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Speaker 1: Like somehow I've like defended this group all year I said,

545
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Speaker 1: they've been I said, and people backed me up on this.

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Speaker 1: The first half of the year. They weren't the problem.

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Speaker 1: They played solid football. They're running the ball. James Robinson

548
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,120
Speaker 1: was averaging five yards of carry before Seattle. They were

549
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: low stack toll. They weren't. Jay rob got hurt, like

550
00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: the whole things fell apart. Might go to my point

551
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Speaker 1: of saying he was your best player, that you should

552
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Speaker 1: have featured him more. And the offensive line now is

553
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 1: playing poorly this week. Both guards no good. Last week,

554
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: both guards no good. Showan Taylor inconsistent all year, not

555
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: good this week. Shatley was fine and Cam Robinson has

556
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: been the best offensive linemen on the team this year.

557
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Speaker 1: So everyone on Twitter leave me alone. Yeah, and they

558
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: got to think about the right tackle position play water.

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Speaker 1: What does it hurt at this point, like I've been

560
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Speaker 1: against it. What about by the way I brought that up,

561
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Speaker 1: you are going I got thrown to the wolf and

562
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Speaker 1: I shut you down. I'm at the point now like

563
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: how like now, find out if he can do it.

564
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Speaker 1: Find out if he can do it. If you can't

565
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Speaker 1: do it, then you have then you know you got

566
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Speaker 1: a lot of positions, Like now you're fixing let's just

567
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Speaker 1: be clear offensively, gotta fix for wide receiver, yeah, gotta

568
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Speaker 1: fix tight end. Yeah Okay, Well, like, what's you're rolling

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Speaker 1: with Dan Arnold again? If he's healthy? Okay, let's get

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Speaker 1: that one. Fine. You gotta fix the offensive line? Sure,

571
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Speaker 1: what do you do it? Running back? See who's healthy

572
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Speaker 1: next year? There's e t n ready to roll. My

573
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: point is like, and wait, you know the offensive line

574
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Speaker 1: is made up five people. You have to make a

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Speaker 1: decision on Cam Robinson. You have to make a decision

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Speaker 1: on your left guard, which I can't imagine. Way he's

577
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: been playing, they're gonna bring him back. You gotta make

578
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: a decision for Brandon Linder, who has been hurt all year.

579
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 1: The last couple of years, he's been struggling to healthy.

580
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Think he's missed forty games in his career somewhere around that.

581
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Speaker 1: And I hate it because I love I mean, I'm

582
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Speaker 1: a big brand, wonder a guy, and you got what

583
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 1: do you do with a j can He's been out

584
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: all year, basically was not playing great before you got hurt,

585
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Speaker 1: had a very good year last year. Your right tackle

586
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Speaker 1: is struggling like no one's business. Like you like find

587
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Speaker 1: out if Walker Little can do something, so you have

588
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 1: you can check the box at one place. You're not

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00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: fixing everything, yeah, because you only because remember that, like

590
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Speaker 1: we were talking about this last year, you only can

591
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: fix so many things each year. Well, things that you

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Speaker 1: thought were okay, remember Urban and Trent Bak he told us,

593
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Speaker 1: and Obviouslyason, oh I love her offensive line. We have

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Speaker 1: a good, strong group. They brought him all back. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Well that's not playing out right now the way any

596
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Speaker 1: of us thought. And so now you add that to

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Speaker 1: the list. So you gotta start checking things off the

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Speaker 1: list and find out if guys could play. Can Walker

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Speaker 1: Little play at this level? Let's go find out Ken

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Speaker 1: will Richardson play, if he plays some more? Can he

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Speaker 1: play somewhere at least we've seen him in games, right,

602
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: But look the way Andrew Normal was playing. He ain't

603
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Speaker 1: coming back next year. So put somebody else in there.

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Speaker 1: Why Pete and you know me, I'm not one of

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Speaker 1: these like but at this point, I it's hard to argue.

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Speaker 1: So I was, So I was right. You weren't two

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Speaker 1: weeks ago? You are? You can you can say it

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Speaker 1: you're you are? Now you have do they have any

609
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: any backups? Besides okay we walk a little Richardson and

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00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: Shatley's in there is there's nobody else right A J.

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Speaker 1: Cannons And I are you have McDermott, Casey McDermott, who's

612
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Speaker 1: the backup center with Linda out? Like No, it's not

613
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Speaker 1: like it's a lot of depth that you're talking about.

614
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Speaker 1: Nobody has that. Nobody has no I know that, But

615
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: it's not like you have a bunch of young guys

616
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:52,520
Speaker 1: you've been developing. That's why I'm like, you gotta go

617
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 1: find out what Walker little is. Like I'm at the

618
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,959
Speaker 1: point is, look at the Green Bay pack Look at

619
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Speaker 1: the Green Bay Packers up. They're on their third tackle,

620
00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 1: they're on they have a rookie right guard. They last

621
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Speaker 1: night they're starting right tackle who's a converted guard went

622
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:09,920
Speaker 1: out and they had to put it back up in

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00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: there and they're in their backup center. They just keep winning.

624
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Speaker 1: May granted they have Aaron Rodgers and I'm not let

625
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: me give you a couple of games figure out a

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00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 1: way at times to I don't think anyways getting better

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Speaker 1: on that offensive line. Let me I went through this

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Speaker 1: the other day with somebody who has gotten better on

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Speaker 1: the offense in the last six weeks, who has improved?

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Speaker 1: Anybody name one? Got one for me, Tony JK got one. Treadwell,

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Speaker 1: fred Well has played better. Okay, I like it. You

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Speaker 1: got one, ding ding ding, That's all I got. You

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Speaker 1: just asked for one. Yeah, you gave you gave me one,

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Speaker 1: and I'll give it to you. Because he actually, at

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Speaker 1: times it looks like an NFL receive or should be

636
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Speaker 1: a complimentary player on the offense. Maybe, but that's it.

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00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: The back hasn't gotten better. He's because they don't use him,

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Speaker 1: and he's been heard quarterbacks gotten worse. The line has

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00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 1: gotten worse. The receivers are no better. I mean, every

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Speaker 1: time Chanak goes in motion, they're gonna throw a screen

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Speaker 1: behind a lot of scrimmage and ask the two receivers

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Speaker 1: to block. It's just it's maddening to watch, demanding office

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Speaker 1: to watch. I'm at the point now, place Cisco, put

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Speaker 1: him in there, start them. Fine, if you can play

645
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Speaker 1: all the all the young guns are getting in the

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Speaker 1: well like this. What's his name, Jordan Smith? I don't

647
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Speaker 1: even know whose name has never been around, Like get

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Speaker 1: him up. What do you have to like, what is

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Speaker 1: like is this what is Jason giving you? What is

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Speaker 1: John Warden? I know he had a good game whatever

651
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Speaker 1: last week? What like what are you getting find out?

652
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Speaker 1: Like are you building this in around John ward And

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Speaker 1: like the lord is the free agents? Okay, great, let's

654
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Speaker 1: get Jordan Smith. Can he rush the pastor because we

655
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: don't rush the pastor very well? And you know it's

656
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: a outside of d want Smoot is our best defensive

657
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 1: player's consent. Every week. You know, he's gonna have a

658
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Speaker 1: few tackles, probably a sack. He's gonna press with the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: He's yeah, good, like good. But my point is put

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Speaker 1: Jordan Smith out there. What other rookies we have to

661
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 1: to j um j to Philly. He got his opportunity

662
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: last week. It was not great. It's really about it.

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Speaker 1: I mean to fill a Jordan Smith, Cisco, Tyson Campbell,

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Speaker 1: start with Walker, little Jordan Smith and Cisco let's go

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Speaker 1: or put Jordan Smith out on third down whatever, like

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Speaker 1: why not, I'm there, I've given up. Hey, let's uh,

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Speaker 1: we'll take another time out. We'll come back a little

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Speaker 1: defensive talk and dig into their day as a whole

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Speaker 1: yesterday Second Hour, We're gonna keep it real. Who at

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Speaker 1: some point in the second were not keeping it real? Now, Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's real. It's it's been kept real for a long

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Speaker 1: time around here. So when we keep it real, though,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk draft because the Jaguars have been eliminated

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Speaker 1: from postseason contention. Of course, your social media questions plenty ahead, Veterans,

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Speaker 1: kind of hard findal worry. But it's not like I'm

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Speaker 1: little sitting to give up. You know. My main thing

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00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 1: is I've been a leader dying. You know, we've gotta

681
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: keep fighting. It doesn't matter the outcome circumstances. You got said,

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Speaker 1: the main thing you coming back. We're not gonna lay

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Speaker 1: down for nobody. Um So I bet to be drawn board,

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Speaker 1: you know, each week, and you know, we gotta figure

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Speaker 1: out something, how to get better at something. So that's

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Speaker 1: the part we're gonna figure out. I gonna take you

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Speaker 1: twenty four hours figure out what happened? Like us when

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Speaker 1: you got and make some some arrangement, make this stuff work,

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Speaker 1: get this stuff clicking, and get us going so we

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Speaker 1: don't figure it out. That's Shakuille Griffin, Jaguar's cornerback yesterday

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00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 1: in Nashville after Jaguars lost to the Titans twenty nothing,

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Speaker 1: the final score. First shutout lost for the Jags since

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Speaker 1: two thousand nine when they lost forty one nothing at Seattle.

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Speaker 1: It's a long time ago. J P, Shadrick, Pete, Prisco,

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Speaker 1: Tony wassellly and you know, the defense. We'll get back

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Speaker 1: to the offense a little later. There's plenty of time

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Speaker 1: for that. Of course. The defense yesterday allowed two hundred

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Speaker 1: sixty three yards to the Titans. That's the second best

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Speaker 1: day of the season for the Jaguars defense as a

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Speaker 1: whole in total areage allowed UM. And then after the

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Speaker 1: interceptions from Trevor Lawrence those change possessions, they allowed twenty

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Speaker 1: one yards and three points after those interceptions. So they

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Speaker 1: did what they could do. They just didn't have a

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Speaker 1: lot of help from it. I mean, then he couldn't

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Speaker 1: go off the field. I mean, the flip side of

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Speaker 1: it is they had trouble getting off the field the

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Speaker 1: first three drives. There were some long drives, long drives.

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Speaker 1: They didn't force a pun they gave up a touchdown,

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Speaker 1: missfield goal in a field role, ten plays, nine plays,

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Speaker 1: fift plays respective, that's part of your job too. You

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Speaker 1: have to give your offense. You gotta get some three

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Speaker 1: and ounce up your offense out um. But overall, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's ten nothing middle of the third. Let's go do

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Speaker 1: something right, right, So, I mean Peter was the second

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Speaker 1: best day by yardage. I mean, they're they're doing what

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Speaker 1: they can on defense. No, they actually played well in defense,

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Speaker 1: and and you know, look, they playing hard. They're not

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Speaker 1: the greatest in terms of talent, they do play hard.

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Speaker 1: And I think Joe Cohen's done a good job compensating

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Speaker 1: for the lack of talent. I think that he just

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Speaker 1: pure talent. He has to go win. I mean there's

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Speaker 1: another side of the ball. Who's playing well on that

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Speaker 1: side of the ball. In that smoot we talked about,

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Speaker 1: that is one again. Yeah, I think Dwan smooth plays.

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Speaker 1: He's another one that plays hard and tough and physical.

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Speaker 1: He's starting every week. Yeah, yeah, I think if you need,

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Speaker 1: you could start him at one end. If you had

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Speaker 1: the elite dominant edge Russia at the other end. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Josh disappeared the last three weeks and I don't know

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Speaker 1: where he report. He was on the injury report last week.

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Speaker 1: I know that shoulder. Okay, I'm just saying. I'm just saying, well,

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Speaker 1: you know that's started to become a problem too if

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Speaker 1: he's on the injury because he was on the injury report,

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Speaker 1: he's been injured a bunch. No, but he's playing. If

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Speaker 1: you go play, you gotta produce. If you want to

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Speaker 1: be the guy, you gotta go sack the quarterback like

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Speaker 1: Carold I mean, is he as good as Harold Andry

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Speaker 1: the past should be. He's not. Right now, Carol and

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Speaker 1: has eleven sacks. I think us Miles Jack is Miles Jack.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play that well on Sunday. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: he was Okay, he was fine. Damian Wilson was good.

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Speaker 1: Wilson had ten tackles in a sack. Roy Robertson Harris

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Speaker 1: or or Roy roberts either one. Both are good. Robertson

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Speaker 1: Harris he had four tackles in a sack and two

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00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: quarterback hits um sorry, Sekille Griffin played well. Ray Shan Jenkins.

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Speaker 1: I thought played well. Um, they were physical. Yeah, they played.

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Speaker 1: I mean they did a good job. I think uh

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Speaker 1: von hell Hamilton after getting I think he got benched,

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Speaker 1: No real report. He wasn't active last week. He was better.

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Speaker 1: He still gets pushed around a little bit. Um. It's

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00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: about wingered. Everybody's all over wingered. Stupid penalty. You can't

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00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 1: hit the quarterback in the head, and you can't. Everyone

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Speaker 1: knows you can't go dive it offensive lineman's legs as

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00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 1: they're trying to block you. You can't do it. Don't

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00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: do it. Stupid. Um. And and is that where Cisco

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Speaker 1: goes in, Yeah, that's where I put him. I would

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Speaker 1: start next week, Raid, start Ray Shon Jenkins in Cisco

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Speaker 1: in the secondary, and I would start I would start walking.

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Speaker 1: I'd start Walker little at right tackle. If you don't

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Speaker 1: want to start right tackle, guess what, Walker, you're starting

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Speaker 1: a left guard. Like I'm putting you on the field.

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Speaker 1: You gotta go play. I picked you in the second round.

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00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: I gotta know if you can count on you to

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Speaker 1: be a starter next year. I'm playing at that that draft.

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Speaker 1: That draft needs to get guys on the field. I mean,

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Speaker 1: out of that draft. There's two guys playing. That's it.

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00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: Quarterback number one overall and Tyson Campbell that's it. No,

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00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:37,439
Speaker 1: you gotta you can't blame matt On. You can't blame

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Speaker 1: that on the previous regime. So that's what I'm doing.

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00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:46,959
Speaker 1: But yeah, defensively give Joe cole credit. I mean, first

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Speaker 1: year coordinator, tough situation. You see some growing pains of

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Speaker 1: getting guys on the field at times, but you know

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Speaker 1: he keeps on working at that. I like Joe, I

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Speaker 1: root for Joe's a friend, um, and I think you

775
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,440
Speaker 1: like it was ugly at early, it was not good,

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00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: but they've gotten better, and you know that's all you

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00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 1: can ask Like if like, if you just told me

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00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: the offense is getting better too, Okay, Like I actually

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Speaker 1: could live with if you're like two and eleven, if

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Speaker 1: you like you're progressing, like there's so. I think one

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Speaker 1: of the big issues that this for franchise has, this

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00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: organization has is I think people have lost hope. I ain't.

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00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 1: The fans right now are like, what do I have

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00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 1: forged next year? I can't even talk about draft anymore.

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00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 1: I was all excited about Urban and and Trevor, it's

786
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: worse now than it was last year, and so you

787
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,240
Speaker 1: lose hope, and that's what we You can't have happened.

788
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Speaker 1: That's why they have to win this week. They gotta

789
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,480
Speaker 1: go beat the Texans. Are you gonna lock it? No,

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00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm not. I wouldn't do that to the team. My

791
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,320
Speaker 1: locks have been terrible this year. But I mean, listen,

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Speaker 1: the Texans have a workie quarterback, Davis Mills. He's play,

793
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:01,440
Speaker 1: he played, He's played better than the rockie quarterback in Jacksonville.

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00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: They got a bunch of they got a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different pieces and parts and stuff, and guys hurt. So like,

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Speaker 1: you gotta go beat those guys. You have to because

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00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: you want a new low. No, I don't you want

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Speaker 1: a new low. No, I don't go losing the Texas

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Speaker 1: is I'm no, thanks, We can't. Can't lose them home game,

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Speaker 1: defend the bank, locked down the bank, lock it down.

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Speaker 1: All that you have to You gotta win the game.

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00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: Got to score well. And here's the thing. They're scoring

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Speaker 1: nine points a game. Now here's mr By. It's only

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Speaker 1: under fourtun seas. The good news is we're averaging thirteen

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00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 1: point eight thirteen point eight points a game. But that's

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Speaker 1: point two more points In the Houston Texas they're only

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Speaker 1: at thirteen point six. I said, we just go with

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Speaker 1: the stats, win the game, move on analytics. Analytics, they

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00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:03,600
Speaker 1: don't lie. Like the under, what's gonna be a low

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be a low score a gay. I've never

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Speaker 1: been an over under, but if I was setting the line,

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Speaker 1: I put it in like twenty one, no six? What

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Speaker 1: does that even mean? Whatever? What's what's the low line?

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Speaker 1: What's the lower over under? In high thirties? Is a

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Speaker 1: low over under? Oh gosh, they're not getting high thirties.

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Speaker 1: That means it's like, you know, sixteen to fourteen. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's thirty, I go thirty. You know, it's still when

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Speaker 1: you look back on it, in the last month and

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Speaker 1: a half of the season's still amazing. At the Pubblo

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Speaker 1: Bills scored lost nine six, nine to six, and the

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Speaker 1: you know, and the Jags had to Trevor had a

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00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:41,960
Speaker 1: good day in London, but they had to kick those

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00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:46,800
Speaker 1: fifty plus yard field goals to win. I mean, yeah,

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00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 1: that's crazy, right, That's how You've won two close ones,

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Speaker 1: like really close ones. You haven't lost any close ones,

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Speaker 1: haven't not really they had lee to other times but

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Speaker 1: there was nothing like in the fourth quarter, world like

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Speaker 1: you gave up a game when he drives biting our fingernails. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's come back in a moment. Uh. The second hour

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Speaker 1: of Jaguars Happy Hour, we'll hit the top news oh

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Speaker 1: the day. We'll keep it real with draft talk. We'll

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Speaker 1: get your social questions go around the league planning ahead.

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Speaker 1: This Jaguars Happy Hour presented by je Home Loans on

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Digital Network. Good Today, Tom Paul Sarah publicly

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Speaker 1: doubled down to what he said that he insisted at

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Speaker 1: all the things that he wrote in his mind, according

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Speaker 1: to his sources, absolutely happened. So you have these two

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Speaker 1: diametrically opposed and sorry, down it. I had a heated

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Speaker 1: argument with yeah, yeah, it didn't happen. I got little

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00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 1: we gotta be law like heart. Marvin's text number or

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00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:12,400
Speaker 1: inappropriate name that is urban Meyer today and welcome back.

842
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,319
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour our number two. What a show

843
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: it's been so far. One hour to go. Well, the

844
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:23,760
Speaker 1: Jaguars are trying to recover from a twenty nothing lost

845
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: to the Titans. Urban Meyer taking heat again after that

846
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:30,719
Speaker 1: Saturday NFL media report of tenship between coaches, players, and Urban,

847
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,960
Speaker 1: including an alleged shouting incident with Marvin Jones Jr. Calling

848
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:40,120
Speaker 1: assistant coaches losers. Urban denies each of those, by the way,

849
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 1: and then the game came along. Well, let me get

850
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: through the open here. The game came along after that.

851
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Twenty nothing the final score the Jags second five game

852
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: losing streak of the season. Now, the Jags shut out

853
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand nine, held under

854
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: two hundred guards for the third time this season and

855
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: now and back to back games, and a franchise record

856
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: low eight rushing yards on a franchise record low eight

857
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: rushing attempts, penalties all day long. The defense did fight,

858
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: but they were on the field a lot up. Next

859
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: the battle of two and eleven teams in Week fifteen,

860
00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:16,080
Speaker 1: the Houston Texans and the Jacksonville Jaguars. The Texans got

861
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 1: them in Week one, and they've gotten the last seven straight.

862
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,120
Speaker 1: In fact, Houston's won seven in a row in the

863
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 1: series and eighteen of the last twenty four against the Jacks. Yes,

864
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,520
Speaker 1: first of all, like this is the same stories last week.

865
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,279
Speaker 1: The Titans have beat us every year since. I think

866
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: I just like got the same rundown script and like

867
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:37,120
Speaker 1: just changed the name. I'm sorry I started giggling. But

868
00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: when you said the meeting where erber Meyer was calling

869
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 1: coaches losers, which he denied. To be clear, he denied,

870
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,160
Speaker 1: I would have paid money if that actually, if that really,

871
00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: if it happened. Let's let's assume Tom Palastrow's sources tell

872
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:55,440
Speaker 1: the truth. Whatever. I would love to be in that meeting,

873
00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,880
Speaker 1: because you know many times I was called a loser

874
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: and bad names by coaches. It's an offensive, lineman. I

875
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,879
Speaker 1: would have paid money to be in the rumor it's going.

876
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I used to picture all the coaches around He's like,

877
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: you're a loser, because it's a little bit of what

878
00:49:12,080 --> 00:49:15,240
Speaker 1: it was like at times as a player. Because Arvid's

879
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: delone coach he said, guess what it all? It all

880
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: rolls downhill, and you know what the all is. It's

881
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 1: something stinky and you don't want on you. But Pete,

882
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: that just makes me laugh. Can you imagine the head

883
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: coach walking around the staff going, you're a loser. Your

884
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:32,759
Speaker 1: resume stinks and you you stink and just would be beautiful. Well,

885
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,680
Speaker 1: isn't that the same staff that he said? Um? He hired.

886
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: It was the best of the best. To be clear,

887
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:42,959
Speaker 1: he's saying he never said that to them. He's saying

888
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 1: Tom Palasero's report is not accurate. You guys said pellasar

889
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 1: double down? Where did he double down on radio in

890
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: Jacksonville to day? He was on tinte XL earlier today. Okay, alright,

891
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: he doubled down, so he said it happened that. Look,

892
00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: it probably did happen. You wouldn't report that if it

893
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,319
Speaker 1: didn't happen. And and look, the only way to see

894
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: it's like the old days. You can't go in the

895
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: locker room anymore. If the locker room was open, you'd

896
00:50:06,040 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: go Smart Jones face to face. Did you imagine we're

897
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 1: talking about that during the break that's closed now and

898
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 1: there's only a mixed media zone you can get select players,

899
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: and only tiered individuals can do that, so they all

900
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: and only in group setting. So he's not you know,

901
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 1: in the old days, he used to be able to

902
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: go in there and you'd go over to a player

903
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 1: and you know, hey, what's going on again? The you

904
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 1: know you're not playing real well and he's not playing you.

905
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:37,160
Speaker 1: You're mad? Yeah, man, Okay, I got a story. You know,

906
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: he can't do that anymore because, hey, the guy's not

907
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:43,239
Speaker 1: going to answer that question in a group setting. He's

908
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,760
Speaker 1: not going to tell you anything in a group setting.

909
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: And look, I guarantee you if that happened, there's four

910
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: or five other players that saw it or know about it.

911
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: And so if you're covering the team, you could go

912
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: in there and ask them, here's what you these. Let's

913
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: just cut to the chase. Make Bernie Parmarily and and

914
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones available to the media. Mark get it over

915
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 1: with the order told last week that Parmaly was gonna

916
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: be available this coming week, So is he going to

917
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 1: be I'm just saying, like at some point just like

918
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 1: get it over with. Like I'm so like where I

919
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: agree with Urbans, like we need to move beyond this,

920
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 1: Like it's time to move on. But as long as

921
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:32,839
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but I think it's like

922
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: there's a credibility because right now it's a credibility issue

923
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 1: from the standpoint of it's the national media's word against

924
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: your word. The only way to like solve it, and

925
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 1: it's terrible because you put your assistant coach in a

926
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: bad place and you put the player in a bad place.

927
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: But but that's what you did, and that's what it is.

928
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,080
Speaker 1: They're all we're all adults just rolling out of the media.

929
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,719
Speaker 1: Get it over with. Well, what is Barba Jones gonna say? Well,

930
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,160
Speaker 1: but Pete, at least they'll be over Here's the other

931
00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: thing about Margaret Jones and doored years with the lot, right,

932
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 1: And there was this one. You didn't hear anything like

933
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 1: this about Marvin Jones, didn't He was with the Bengals

934
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: before that, with the Lions, a ten year pro now, yeah,

935
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: and if it didn't happen, why would someone pick up

936
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,239
Speaker 1: Marvin Jones as the person saying that I don't know,

937
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 1: I just like rollout. There's Look, but I've heard of

938
00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,640
Speaker 1: other ones too, that there's been other players that I've

939
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,480
Speaker 1: had issues with him. Let's let's not sugarcoat the thing.

940
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,680
Speaker 1: But my point is this is the problem. Tom had issues,

941
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: Tony Thomas issues with every player. Sure, here's the other side.

942
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: Does care everybody have to be happy all the time?

943
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: That's my point? Who cares? I got in a shouting match,

944
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:49,279
Speaker 1: had to be separated from Kevin Gilbride in Mike and

945
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,440
Speaker 1: I had plenty shouting matches at each other in disagreement practice.

946
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:56,760
Speaker 1: What did you do wrong, Tony? What did you do wrong? Kevin?

947
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 1: It was Kevin's vault. He lost them. I love Kevin

948
00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Gilbright too. I tell him, like he knows that, Kevin.

949
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:05,880
Speaker 1: But Kevin had a he had a short temper once

950
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: a while, and I remember, yeah, short temper, great football coach,

951
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: great dude. Love Kevin, and he uh and he like

952
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: I like it only happened a few times during the

953
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: whole season, but he would just all of a sudden

954
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:24,520
Speaker 1: snap and lose it on guys and like just lose it.

955
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: Like I can't even repeat what we said on the radio.

956
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 1: And I would never do that because I and that

957
00:53:30,040 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: just what happened. And I remember like sitting there going,

958
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: if he ever does that to me, I'm not like,

959
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. And so we run the like we've

960
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 1: lost like six in a row. It's miserable, Like everyone's tight,

961
00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: it's tense, and we run a slip screen sixties slip

962
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: screen left. And it's a difficult play for the tackle

963
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:50,840
Speaker 1: because you have to it's timing and like you have

964
00:53:50,920 --> 00:53:52,799
Speaker 1: to read it up to the make sure you go

965
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,360
Speaker 1: up to the alley inside up alley outside and anyways,

966
00:53:56,560 --> 00:53:58,279
Speaker 1: and I guess he didn't like how I did it.

967
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,279
Speaker 1: And before I can turn around and get back to

968
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:07,640
Speaker 1: the huddle, he is in my grill, like just undressing me.

969
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:09,600
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I'd love to see if if

970
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 1: that did happen where urban was undressing the coaches, I'd

971
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,000
Speaker 1: be I'd be great. I'd love to sit there and

972
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,320
Speaker 1: have popcorn watch. But he was undressing me, just going

973
00:54:17,360 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 1: at it, and I was like, and I lost it.

974
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,000
Speaker 1: I snapped and I went after him and we had

975
00:54:24,040 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: to be separated because Kevin is the type of dude

976
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,480
Speaker 1: like I would have whipped I would have I would

977
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,759
Speaker 1: have whipped his rear end. But Kevin wasn't gonna let

978
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: him back down, and so he was coming like we're

979
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 1: being pulled apart, chaos on the field. Guess what. Afterwards,

980
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: I went to his office and coach, you're the coach

981
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: on the player in my bad he said. We talked

982
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:48,439
Speaker 1: to him, Mike masor I would have given you a beat.

983
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 1: Mike made the late Mike Major and I Tom and

984
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: I had words like like he was because you get

985
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: he did like your competitors, not because I disrespec were

986
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:03,800
Speaker 1: he disrespected, like you're mad things aren't going well. You

987
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: are going you can ask or you could ask for

988
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: us to be respected. And here's the thing. Here's the thing.

989
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin's first couple of years on the Virgin going rotten.

990
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 1: You're going rot. And so it got salvaged and he

991
00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,959
Speaker 1: did a lot of he did some self reflection and

992
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 1: inner we started helping you. You aren't change at all, Pete.

993
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: He was the same guy. We won and guys like winning.

994
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: And he was a good guess what. And he was

995
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,600
Speaker 1: a good coach. He was organized, he was detailed. I'm

996
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:49,239
Speaker 1: not and this is I'm not even say anything about

997
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: Urban right now. I'm just saying what Tom was. He

998
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,920
Speaker 1: was miserable. He was he was. He whipped the crap

999
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: out of us daily. We started winning. Winning fixes everything

1000
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:01,719
Speaker 1: and here and I want to go back to like

1001
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,759
Speaker 1: I like, here's the big thing. I don't get, like

1002
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: all the smoke and all the noise coming out like

1003
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:11,600
Speaker 1: it's a lot. The least of my worries is a

1004
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 1: coach and a player going at it, Like here's the answer.

1005
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Let's say it did happen. Urbans just said, yeah, we

1006
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,839
Speaker 1: had a disagreement. We handled it provably. I'm not going

1007
00:56:18,880 --> 00:56:25,839
Speaker 1: to discuss it with you. Okay, it's over. Marvin called

1008
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:27,960
Speaker 1: Marvin here, Marvin, Yeah, we had a coach coach and

1009
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 1: we discussed like men were good. Okay, big deal. Who

1010
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:39,959
Speaker 1: can like okay publicly have going here. It's saying after

1011
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,840
Speaker 1: all these years that you you guys weren't happy that

1012
00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: he called out Brunelle after the interception after the in

1013
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,120
Speaker 1: the Titans game and embarrassed him and that ended up

1014
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: being a rift between the two of them. I'm not

1015
00:56:52,000 --> 00:57:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna get into that. Still under the bridge, Tony, come on.

1016
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 1: My point is this, it's it's not like the Marvin

1017
00:57:09,000 --> 00:57:12,160
Speaker 1: Jones or it's not the James right, it's not these one.

1018
00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: It's almost how we were the response to them, like

1019
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: if you guess what, you're the head coach. If you

1020
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: wanted to bench James Robinson because he fumbled, then bencham.

1021
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: You're the head coach, Bill Belijack does it all the time,

1022
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 1: but then you gotta bench Carl's high too. You don't

1023
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 1: get it both ways, and you don't. I don't think

1024
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,800
Speaker 1: you're gonna go tell the media it's will go after

1025
00:57:33,320 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 1: go after running back coach because I don't know. And

1026
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 1: then the report is it was your decision like those

1027
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: are like things you just like, I don't know what

1028
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: we're hiding from. Just call it as it is. Yeah,

1029
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: I benched him. I guess what if you fumbling out

1030
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: with a bench again, Pete, you asked the question a

1031
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 1: moment ago. We didn't get your answers about Urban. What

1032
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: was it? Is it fixable? Is his handling of this

1033
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:00,919
Speaker 1: team fixable? Can he change who he is a little bit?

1034
00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: And I don't know if it is. And look, I

1035
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 1: can tell stories about Tom back in the day, and

1036
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: you know when I wrote a bunch of them about

1037
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: how he was. He was a dictator and drove people crazy.

1038
00:58:15,080 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 1: Two years ago, three years ago, I wrote a column,

1039
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:22,120
Speaker 1: big story on what went on after two thousand and

1040
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 1: seventeen with that team. Remember all the crap that went

1041
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: on with that team. So crap happens on all teams,

1042
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 1: and you know this, Tony, every single one of them

1043
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: has stuff going on, and you're right, it's how does

1044
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: the head coach handle it? And he does not do

1045
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: a great job of handling it. Yeah, I benched him,

1046
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,360
Speaker 1: sit him down, Like you said, I sat him down

1047
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: and needed to be benched. Why aren't we running the ball.

1048
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,400
Speaker 1: That's a good question. But I'm gonna get to the

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00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,919
Speaker 1: heart of it. I want to run the ball more.

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00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 1: We will run the ball more. But you don't get

1051
00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:54,240
Speaker 1: to say that we're not gonna get to it. I'm

1052
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: the head coach. You're right, I need to fix it.

1053
00:58:55,680 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 1: It's not good enough. Like here's the thing, Like, just

1054
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,960
Speaker 1: like you are the head coach, like you are the leader.

1055
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: Not only are you the head coach, you run the

1056
00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: entire building. You have final say on anything that happens

1057
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: in this building about football. You can't get up there

1058
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: and say I don't know, or blame somebody else or

1059
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: this person. You gotta say I own it, and you

1060
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:19,600
Speaker 1: know what way? And you fumble, you don't play, you

1061
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:22,080
Speaker 1: know you do this, you don't play. I might. Here's

1062
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 1: my expectations. Like I don't need to hear, and I

1063
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 1: don't think people like I think it's losing. It's like

1064
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: losing a little bit. Like I don't care. I don't

1065
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: care how much you like a guy, how he's a

1066
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:35,280
Speaker 1: great guy, he's a great competitor. No one cares, No

1067
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:39,120
Speaker 1: one cares, No one cares, So they have has finals

1068
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: say on personnel decisions. He has final say on the

1069
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 1: roster decisions. He has finals. Say everything, doesn't play he

1070
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:50,200
Speaker 1: has finals, say on everything. He has finals, say on radio,

1071
00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: has finals. JP's career has finals. That's a lot of

1072
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: pressure on that one. No, but you know what I'm saying,

1073
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not even trying to. I'm not trying

1074
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: to take a Pete laugh again. By the way, I'm not.

1075
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 1: This isn't a shot at Erman like. It's answering your question.

1076
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 1: It's to your question. Can he fix it? Not the

1077
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: way you're going right now. I don't think you can.

1078
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 1: You want to, I'll give you. And we used Tom

1079
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Coughlin here a lot. I happened to love the man

1080
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,040
Speaker 1: in respect him. Do I agree with everything he did?

1081
01:00:28,240 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 1: Not even close have him and I have it our

1082
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:35,600
Speaker 1: run ins, absolutely, But I think like Tom Coughlin, successful

1083
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: NFL head coach, he is good and he's good what

1084
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 1: he does. I don't have to agree with everything he did,

1085
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: and that's not my job. I was a player when

1086
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: he went to New York and you know this beat.

1087
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: He had a revolt going on, and he if he

1088
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: didn't change they working, he wouldn't have two Super Bowl rings,

1089
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 1: and he adjusted his approach because the veteran team, he

1090
01:00:55,720 --> 01:00:58,440
Speaker 1: had guys like stray Hand and Tiki Barbor and like

1091
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: who he was and what they were trying do. He

1092
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,600
Speaker 1: adjusted and that is well, Chronicles, I'm not telling anything

1093
01:01:03,640 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: that's like breaking news, and so can urban fix it?

1094
01:01:10,280 --> 01:01:13,160
Speaker 1: You better take its a You better start looking in

1095
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,760
Speaker 1: the mirror and start with you and what do you

1096
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: need to do because what is ever is going on

1097
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: right now is not working, and I hope he can

1098
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: fix it. I don't like, like, I don't think firing

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01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,000
Speaker 1: a guy after one year is good. I mean, do

1100
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: you hear all this chatter fire herban, get rid of herban,

1101
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah whatever, like that's not good for

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01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 1: any organization. It's not good for good for the Arizona.

1103
01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:40,920
Speaker 1: It was good for the Arizona Cardinals, what's happened here once,

1104
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:47,240
Speaker 1: But it's not good for any organization. It was damn

1105
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 1: good for the Arizona Cardinal. But Peach, you know what

1106
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Overall, I'm with you. I normally would never

1107
01:01:53,240 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, I agree with you. Let it play out.

1108
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:58,919
Speaker 1: And so my point is saying that I asked Hayes

1109
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,280
Speaker 1: Carline this the other day and I was on with them.

1110
01:02:01,400 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: I said, normally, have you gone to any of the

1111
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,880
Speaker 1: Monday and Wednesday press conferences and come away because wins

1112
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,640
Speaker 1: and losses, Yeah, that's the most important thing. But in

1113
01:02:11,640 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: the first year you kind of get the benefit of depth.

1114
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,840
Speaker 1: You come away from Monday or Wednesday press conferences with

1115
01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: Urban taking He's got it down, he's he's he's answered

1116
01:02:21,560 --> 01:02:24,800
Speaker 1: my questions, he's telling me about football. He's got it

1117
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: all down. Yeah, it'll work out in the long run.

1118
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: And Hayes answered me honestly said no, not once. And

1119
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,760
Speaker 1: I think if you asked all the media, all the

1120
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Speaker 1: media guys that question, they'd answer it the exact same way.

1121
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:40,600
Speaker 1: My point. But that's my point, Pete, I'm going back Kenny,

1122
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: fix it. I hope so. I hope so, because two

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01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: and eleven not very good. You're one in fifteen last

1124
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: year and the way it's going right now. I don't

1125
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: know what the line is. I don't gamble and I know,

1126
01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: but you know what's the line on the gates. But

1127
01:02:56,840 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: I don't think that many people are picking the I mean,

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01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: it's a coin for the best us to get to

1129
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 1: Houston Texas who have this man little her entire roster

1130
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 1: and spent nothing in free agent for the most part,

1131
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: very little rebuild scrap. I get the Jets after that.

1132
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,600
Speaker 1: You better, like my point is saying this, you gotta

1133
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:18,120
Speaker 1: like this is going on track. Is a worst season

1134
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:21,840
Speaker 1: than you were last year when you looking expectations everything.

1135
01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: So I hope he can figure it out. Pete, what's

1136
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: up real quick before I gotta get a break. But

1137
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: I happen to see this tweet today. This was from Dent. Dent,

1138
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: I saw it when I looked up something. If they

1139
01:03:37,280 --> 01:03:40,400
Speaker 1: don't win a division in two years, then something is wrong.

1140
01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: Chris go on Jaguars hiring Urban Meyer. That was that

1141
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,080
Speaker 1: was in January last year when I knew Trevor Larns

1142
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:53,200
Speaker 1: was coming. Well, something seems to be wrong because they

1143
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:57,120
Speaker 1: aren't winning division next year. Jaguar's Game Day Radio has

1144
01:03:57,160 --> 01:04:01,640
Speaker 1: brought to you by Vicestar Credit Union. Do would bank better?

1145
01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,520
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it real when we come back to

1146
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: haven't been Nope, we have not. This was starting now.

1147
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,760
Speaker 1: We're gonna keep it real when we return. It's Jaguars

1148
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:17,080
Speaker 1: Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's

1149
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,960
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on a Monday afternoon, j P. Shadrick,

1150
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 1: Pete Prisco, Tony Boselli recapping a twenty to nothing lost

1151
01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: with the Jaguars to the Tennessee Titans. The Jags are

1152
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: now two and eleven and they'll face the Houston Texans

1153
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 1: in week fifteen. Here at t i A a bank

1154
01:04:32,120 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 1: Field time for Keeping It Real presented by Woodbridge by

1155
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 1: Robert Bundavi. Open up a winner today, Real Ingredients Award

1156
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 1: winning wine by Robert Mundavi. The Jaguars have been officially

1157
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:51,480
Speaker 1: eliminated from the postseason. The Jaguars Draft talk will commence tonight.

1158
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:56,919
Speaker 1: You're on Jaguars Love It, I Love It. Draft order

1159
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: as it sits today. Number one would be the Detroit

1160
01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:04,280
Speaker 1: Lions at one eleven and one. The Jaguars would be

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01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: number two. They have the same exact record and strength

1162
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 1: of schedule is Houston at the moment, but the division

1163
01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: record is the next tiebreaker down. That's why the Texans

1164
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:17,600
Speaker 1: have the better division record their third Jaguars currently our

1165
01:05:17,720 --> 01:05:20,400
Speaker 1: second in the draft, and then there's four straight New

1166
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 1: York teams that would pick after that evidence today there's

1167
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 1: a dozen of course in today, there are four weeks

1168
01:05:25,960 --> 01:05:30,320
Speaker 1: left in the season. Okay, so the Giants have five

1169
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,520
Speaker 1: and six and the Jets at four because they both

1170
01:05:33,520 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 1: had trades earlier. So those where the Bears and the

1171
01:05:36,920 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 1: Seahawks are. And the Eagles have three picks too. Yeah,

1172
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:44,360
Speaker 1: they start with the tenth right now, and they've got

1173
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:49,040
Speaker 1: two others later in the first round. So all right,

1174
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:51,320
Speaker 1: what are we doing? Draft? This is this? It is

1175
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,480
Speaker 1: this is the draft topic. Keep it real here. Let's

1176
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,680
Speaker 1: just say, let's say, what are we doing. I don't

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01:05:56,680 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: know what we're doing? Okay, are keeping it real? There's

1178
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: a draft or what do you want? No? No, no,

1179
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,720
Speaker 1: we're gonna go through. Let's just say, in this scenario

1180
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 1: that the Lions take Aidan Hutchinson, the local kid from

1181
01:06:10,120 --> 01:06:14,120
Speaker 1: Michigan first overall. I wanted Aiden Hutchinson. Well you're not

1182
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 1: getting them, keep losing them. But here's the Lions have

1183
01:06:18,200 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: left to play. Where's Arizona. They're not winning at Atlanta,

1184
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,800
Speaker 1: probably not winning, at Seattle, probably not winning, and then

1185
01:06:25,840 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: home against Green Bay. So they're gonna have the first

1186
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 1: overall pick. It looks like, oh I think they can

1187
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:34,000
Speaker 1: beat Seattle. See they can beat Seattle. In Seattle. Seattle

1188
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: is no good and then they gotta hope like Green

1189
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: Bay isn't playing for anything in the final week of

1190
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 1: the season. But in all likelihood, the Jabra is gonna

1191
01:06:41,880 --> 01:06:45,960
Speaker 1: be picking second. So if they're picking because we beat

1192
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:50,200
Speaker 1: this week, you just said they're not going to I

1193
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: never said that. I said if they don't be dark, Okay, fine,

1194
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:01,240
Speaker 1: I'll lock it. They're gonna beat Wow. He just we're

1195
01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 1: gonna come off to Jack and we'll score some points

1196
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: and win. They're gonna it's gonna Let me tell you

1197
01:07:06,160 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 1: the score of the game. I can't wait to hear.

1198
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 1: This should be the final score. Thirteen point eight to

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Speaker 1: thirteen point six. Jain. Okay, So say Hutchinson goes first

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01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:25,040
Speaker 1: overall to the Lions, then one number. Do you have

1201
01:07:25,080 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: the number two pick? Where you take? What? What do

1202
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,880
Speaker 1: you take it? Tone you're taking a there's an elite

1203
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:33,400
Speaker 1: pass rusher in Oregon, although some people question that, Um,

1204
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: do you take a wide receiver there? I think it's

1205
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: way high for wide receiver. I'm not taking I'm not

1206
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 1: taking receiver to overall. You don't need a quarterback, so

1207
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: you take the pass rusher from Oregon. In this scenario. Now,

1208
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:47,160
Speaker 1: if you can't play him not taking him, well, he

1209
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,960
Speaker 1: can't play. I think he's pretty good. He just but

1210
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: then is he deaf? Is he Dion Jordan's No. If

1211
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: he's that and it's the second pick, them all pretty good.

1212
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,840
Speaker 1: Like if it's the second pick, he better. In fact,

1213
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: there's some people still think you might go first. Okay,

1214
01:08:07,920 --> 01:08:09,480
Speaker 1: who's like, what are the like? I don't even know

1215
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: who the top five players are in the draft. What

1216
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: about the big offensive tackle from Alabama? Evan Neil's name

1217
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 1: Evan Neil? Then you got the corner from LSU Stingley

1218
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: Stingley last year. You can have a receiver involved, and uh,

1219
01:08:27,160 --> 01:08:29,400
Speaker 1: you could get value by trading in a way, getting

1220
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,759
Speaker 1: more picks because somebody wants a quarterback. Is there anyone

1221
01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,720
Speaker 1: who wants to trade up with me? Because I want

1222
01:08:34,720 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 1: to trade back to like five, six, seven and get

1223
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 1: a receiver with extra picks. H with the Giants to

1224
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,160
Speaker 1: be able to pack. Do they want a new quarterback?

1225
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,800
Speaker 1: Are they done with him? What quarterback? Who's trade up

1226
01:08:50,800 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 1: for any quarterback in this draft? Anyway? Nobody is? Nobody

1227
01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 1: is and that's the problem. So it's pass rusher, corner,

1228
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:02,439
Speaker 1: trade down and take a speed receiver. But we know

1229
01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: what they need. It's not hard to figure out. But

1230
01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:08,360
Speaker 1: they do need They ne need an offensive tackle, don't they.

1231
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:11,200
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. Do they need an officsive tackle

1232
01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:13,679
Speaker 1: after drafting one at the top of the second round

1233
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: last year? Yes? Answer, Well, I don't know. That's why

1234
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:21,719
Speaker 1: you got to play Walker little the last four weeks.

1235
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,360
Speaker 1: I'm with you, Tony, I agree with because nothing against

1236
01:09:25,400 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: you want Taylor. Well, I guess it is against him

1237
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 1: because what I've seen the last two years, I've not

1238
01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:31,880
Speaker 1: seen a guy get better. I've seen a guy get

1239
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:36,760
Speaker 1: worse than inconsistent. Yeah, and it's not a guy that

1240
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: leads you to optimism for next year. So yeah, play

1241
01:09:40,360 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 1: Walker Little, Play Walker little. Then we'll get into draft talk.

1242
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,240
Speaker 1: Great draft talk, that crazy. Now we're gonna have we

1243
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 1: got we got tons of draft talk. There's gonna be

1244
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: so much draft talk. Why do you hate it so much?

1245
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:54,880
Speaker 1: It's a reality, you gotta I've done no work to

1246
01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,400
Speaker 1: figure out who is even available. Well, I mean that

1247
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:00,560
Speaker 1: this was the deal. When the Jaguars are efficient eliminated,

1248
01:10:00,680 --> 01:10:03,719
Speaker 1: the draft talk begins, and that's what we've done tonight.

1249
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:08,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you need a receiver, You need someone who

1250
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:10,880
Speaker 1: can play like and here's the word. I mean you

1251
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 1: know this, Pete. The word is now that Tampa's gonna

1252
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,560
Speaker 1: offer whatever it takes a kip, keep Chris Godwin or

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:25,559
Speaker 1: franchise him. Correct, Davante Adams isn't going anywhere Chris Godwin.

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01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:30,080
Speaker 1: So that leaves you a pool of guys like Mike Williams,

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01:10:30,680 --> 01:10:34,400
Speaker 1: Alan Robinson, um, those kind of players that that doesn't

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01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 1: make you that much better. And I don't think you

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01:10:36,280 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 1: overpay those guys. Mhm. Yeah, So you have to draft

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01:10:41,680 --> 01:10:45,240
Speaker 1: not just one receiver, Tony, you have to draft like

1259
01:10:45,680 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: two or three. Well, this goes back to last year.

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01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,679
Speaker 1: Why didn't you be like, you know, I hate doing

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01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: this because we're keeping it real. So we're keeping it real,

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01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: just keeping it like et N maybe is a great player,

1263
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:04,920
Speaker 1: he's been hurt. So this is no like judgment on E.

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01:11:05,000 --> 01:11:06,599
Speaker 1: T N. I just wouldn't have picked it back there.

1265
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:09,679
Speaker 1: Like how about getting Friarmouth the tight end for Pittsburgh.

1266
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,640
Speaker 1: Watched him all year at that position to gets a playmaker.

1267
01:11:12,960 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 1: How about going and getting you know, the little slot

1268
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 1: receiver that Arizona got out of Purdue or the little

1269
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: slot out of you like out of old miss. How

1270
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: about someone can run? Why like a playmaker in the

1271
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:31,280
Speaker 1: passing game? You get a quarterback? Uh, it's just curious

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01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: to me. Like how because now we're starting you want

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 1: you want my draft, you want me keeping a real

1274
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 1: draft talk. I'm frustrate because you need like fifteen positions.

1275
01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: You don't have enough picks because what have you fixed

1276
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:49,040
Speaker 1: in here? Get a quarterback and you know you have

1277
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: a corner I like, I like Tyson camp I think

1278
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a good player. But what else do

1279
01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 1: you have? What did you fix? Nothing? Well, I don't know.

1280
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,800
Speaker 1: I have no idea. What didn't see You haven't seen

1281
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,000
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys out there. But E T.

1282
01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,639
Speaker 1: N was picked because they didn't like James Robinson. Period.

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01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:11,200
Speaker 1: That's the end of that story. It's it's it's hard

1284
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: to argue that right now. That was Keeping it Real

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01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: presented by Woodbridge by Robert Mundavi. Let me tell you

1286
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: what's keeping it real? Have you seen some of the

1287
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: tweets we've got today? Yes? Are you gonna read those

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01:12:24,720 --> 01:12:28,639
Speaker 1: on air? Some of them will make the show, others

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01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:31,719
Speaker 1: will not. Yeah, something should not open up a winner today?

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01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: Real Ingredients Award winning wine by Robert Mundavi. What a

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01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,759
Speaker 1: day it has been so far. We have thirty minutes

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01:12:38,800 --> 01:12:41,439
Speaker 1: to go. Your social media questions, at least the ones

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01:12:41,479 --> 01:12:45,040
Speaker 1: that are arible when we come back. It's Jaguars Happy

1294
01:12:45,080 --> 01:12:51,719
Speaker 1: Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguar

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01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 1: is Happy. What are you laughing at, Tony? But your

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01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: microphone is on. We're on the air. Sorry this picture,

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01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:00,920
Speaker 1: I'll send it your way. I don't want to get

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: into it. It's just that's great. Welcome back, Jaguars Happy.

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01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,960
Speaker 1: Our social media questions coming up? What are you? What

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01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 1: is this? What is this? It's like trying. Okay, that's enough.

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01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:18,559
Speaker 1: I saw that. Yes, that's great, thank you. This is

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01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: awful radio we put out. We put out the bat

1303
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 1: signal every Monday. This has been our most responsive Monday.

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01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:30,799
Speaker 1: I must say, I'm just guessing. I all the statue

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01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,559
Speaker 1: of the analytics to back that up, but um, you know,

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01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: it feels like it and let's get to it. Social

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01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: media question number one, at least the ones that can

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01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: make the air at Matthew lock eight, can you draw

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:46,000
Speaker 1: similarities to that of the fins and flores the bills

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01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 1: and McDermott. The Bengals and Stacy franchise has had major

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01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,160
Speaker 1: issues at the start. Stuck to the course and now

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01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:56,200
Speaker 1: performing that's fair Bills, the Bills McDermot did not. They

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01:13:56,240 --> 01:13:58,080
Speaker 1: made the playoffs for first year from the mistake and

1314
01:13:58,120 --> 01:14:02,760
Speaker 1: they actually lost to the Jaguars here ten three his

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01:14:02,800 --> 01:14:05,080
Speaker 1: first year, so that was not really that many issues.

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01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 1: Finns Flores started terrible, ended up closing out the season

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01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: on a high note because they got better each week.

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01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:19,920
Speaker 1: Not the same story here, um Stacy and question mark Bengals. Um,

1319
01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:23,519
Speaker 1: they were terrible and yeah, I guess that would be

1320
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 1: the one that you could say was like really really

1321
01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: bad and then they got better this year after the

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01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: year two of the with the quarterback. But even last

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01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:35,000
Speaker 1: quarterback got hurt. Last year quarterback got hurt. Remember last

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01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,360
Speaker 1: year they were bad, but they were scoring points, throwing

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01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:39,960
Speaker 1: the ball over the field. The movement that wasn't like this,

1326
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: like they were losing games because they couldn't protect the

1327
01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,200
Speaker 1: quarterback is getting killed. But they know it all. They

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01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 1: had a bunch of offense. Bet if I'm not mistaken, well,

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01:14:49,960 --> 01:14:52,479
Speaker 1: and you know you mentioned the Bills and McDermott and

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01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:57,800
Speaker 1: the interesting thing about that is Josh Allen threw ten

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01:14:57,880 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: touchdown passes and twelve picks that for first year he

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01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 1: was bad. He was BADFS No, he didn't. Mc dermott

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01:15:10,720 --> 01:15:14,760
Speaker 1: went to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and then they

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01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,840
Speaker 1: and then they then they went and made the pick

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01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:21,120
Speaker 1: and drafted Josh out went backwards a year but played

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01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:25,080
Speaker 1: good deeper they were still in games, and then third

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01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 1: year back in the playoffs. So it just doesn't. It doesn't.

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01:15:30,720 --> 01:15:36,400
Speaker 1: It has no feel of that. No, no, none, so no,

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01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: so none of the above. Maybe Bengals a little bit pizza. No,

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01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: I'm putting you down for no pete. Question number two

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01:15:47,880 --> 01:15:50,599
Speaker 1: at nine oh four and more, why didn't the Jags

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01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 1: utilize the waiver wire during the season. I'm guessing this

1343
01:15:55,560 --> 01:15:59,200
Speaker 1: is in reference to Cunningham this week, who was waived

1344
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 1: the Texans. The Titans ended up claiming him. I think

1345
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,840
Speaker 1: Jack Hunningham is a good football player, but he was

1346
01:16:05,880 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: also guaranteed ten half million dollars next year that you'd

1347
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:12,760
Speaker 1: be on the hook for, so you better that is

1348
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:17,640
Speaker 1: he worth? Is he worth that? No Leading tackler in

1349
01:16:17,680 --> 01:16:19,720
Speaker 1: the league last year. I'm just telling you why they

1350
01:16:19,720 --> 01:16:21,760
Speaker 1: didn't do it. The question was why they didn't do it,

1351
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: and that's why, all right, if you want to be

1352
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: on the hook for ten a half million for Zach

1353
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:31,400
Speaker 1: Cunningham next year. Question number three social media at stut Winters.

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,439
Speaker 1: I'm demoralized, frustrated, and at an all time low as

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01:16:35,479 --> 01:16:37,840
Speaker 1: a fan. Can you give me any reason, any at

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01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:40,719
Speaker 1: all to believe in this team next year? And note

1357
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: the British spelling of demoralized with an S. He's from London.

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01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 1: I got nothing off the top of my head right now.

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01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: My only, my only hope for next year. That's next year.

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01:16:51,800 --> 01:16:56,560
Speaker 1: I mean, there's nothing right now that gives you confidence

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01:16:57,280 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 1: that things are gonna be like rosy. Now with that,

1362
01:17:01,160 --> 01:17:04,880
Speaker 1: you get through, get through the season, like figure out

1363
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 1: what happens, like get this losing behind you, and I

1364
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,400
Speaker 1: think you'll start feeling hopeful again as we get towards

1365
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,760
Speaker 1: free agency. They have a good cap, you know, hopefully,

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01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: you know, Trevor, second year player, it's a big job.

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01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,960
Speaker 1: So that I like, I just contradicted myself. I sip,

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01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 1: I flipped, call me flipper, clipper, flipper, flipper, I'm flipper

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01:17:28,120 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 1: this week. Um, there is things to hope for a

1370
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 1: good cap you have a young quarterback. Um oh, I

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01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 1: still believe in those are the two things. Cap room,

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:41,559
Speaker 1: young quarterback. They did so they did a wonderful job

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01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,720
Speaker 1: with that cap room they had last That's where I

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01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 1: started with no hope. I was trying to give hope.

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01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: So if I go down that path, hope take take

1376
01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:52,240
Speaker 1: the cap back because they had a lot of cap

1377
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:55,679
Speaker 1: room last year, they did nothing with it. Um So

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01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:59,280
Speaker 1: that's not a plus. The plus is the quarterback if

1379
01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:02,320
Speaker 1: you don't ruin him, and the ruining him. You know.

1380
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: I mentioned this to Tony before I talked to him,

1381
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 1: and we were talking about is this David Carr? And

1382
01:18:07,200 --> 01:18:10,400
Speaker 1: the answer to that question is no. And the reason

1383
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:14,439
Speaker 1: it's no is because Trevor Lawrence stands in there and

1384
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: takes him beating and just gets back up and goes

1385
01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:22,440
Speaker 1: back and he plays the next play. He's a tough guy.

1386
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 1: And as a defensive rusher, if I saw that that long,

1387
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,920
Speaker 1: that long quarterback standing in the pocket with a big

1388
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,719
Speaker 1: target like that, I'd want to blast them too. And

1389
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,559
Speaker 1: and he takes a ton of hits and he just

1390
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:39,800
Speaker 1: keeps getting up and you gotta admit there's times when

1391
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:42,000
Speaker 1: he takes those shots and you go, this might be

1392
01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaker 1: the one. But he keeps getting up and that's a

1393
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,960
Speaker 1: great sign. He's not I think his fundamentals are waning.

1394
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 1: I think his eye level has come down because of

1395
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,760
Speaker 1: the shots. I think he's sped up a little bit

1396
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:58,440
Speaker 1: because of being hit, and he doesn't trust his receivers,

1397
01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: which has led to all kinds problems for him. He

1398
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,920
Speaker 1: got fooled on the one interception. Let's be real, they

1399
01:19:05,000 --> 01:19:08,720
Speaker 1: dropped out the end. He didn't see him. Rookie got

1400
01:19:08,760 --> 01:19:12,240
Speaker 1: fooled the deep throw that he was picked. That was

1401
01:19:12,280 --> 01:19:14,840
Speaker 1: a terrible throw, terrible decision. He had Marvin Jones on

1402
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,600
Speaker 1: the other side. He didn't even look over there. And

1403
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:21,200
Speaker 1: so there's there's different types of interceptions. Some of them

1404
01:19:21,200 --> 01:19:23,880
Speaker 1: were rookie throws, some of them are just trying to

1405
01:19:23,920 --> 01:19:27,559
Speaker 1: make him play. But through it all, he just keeps

1406
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: getting right back up and going up there and taking

1407
01:19:29,560 --> 01:19:32,040
Speaker 1: those shots. And that's the best sign of all for him,

1408
01:19:32,280 --> 01:19:36,240
Speaker 1: and that should give the jah War's hope. Question number

1409
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: four social media on fire today at Devil x Jaguar,

1410
01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:42,960
Speaker 1: Please someone explain while we run the ball six times

1411
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: in the game, we were in until about the fourth

1412
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: quarter Why does this team hate Robinson? What do they

1413
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: see and hide? This feels like a nightmare. We have

1414
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:56,760
Speaker 1: never woke up from wow intense well I addressed, I

1415
01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,240
Speaker 1: don't I don't have an answer for you. Behind is

1416
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,559
Speaker 1: in can Cushing protocol? By the way, is um? I

1417
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: have no for you. I don't know if Urban hates

1418
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,400
Speaker 1: James Robinson or not. Don't have any perspective on that.

1419
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,040
Speaker 1: I have not asked urban Meyer about that. I don't

1420
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:14,400
Speaker 1: understand why they don't run him more um as of late.

1421
01:20:14,439 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: If it's because of injury, great, Um, then why are

1422
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: you playing him wait in the game when he's injured? Yeah,

1423
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,720
Speaker 1: that excuse goes out the window. So I don't buy

1424
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 1: that one. Um. But I don't know why, how why

1425
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: you don't run the ball? I have no idea. I

1426
01:20:30,160 --> 01:20:33,040
Speaker 1: can't answer. It makes no sense to me. Like this

1427
01:20:33,439 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: is like we heard him answered earlier, and I don't

1428
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 1: buy it. Like it's tend evidence, it's not out of hand,

1429
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:45,040
Speaker 1: it's nothing. The evidence is there that they don't like

1430
01:20:45,160 --> 01:20:47,160
Speaker 1: James Robinson. Look, if you were in a court of

1431
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: law and you had to convict somebody of not liking

1432
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:56,440
Speaker 1: James Robinson, they'd be guilty period. There's too much evidence there. Wow.

1433
01:20:56,520 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. Let me tell you. If if

1434
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:01,479
Speaker 1: you're committed to the run it, you've run thirty plays,

1435
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:08,400
Speaker 1: it's ten nothing. You're losing. You've thrown it, you've dropped

1436
01:21:08,439 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 1: back the past twenty four times, you've handed it off

1437
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:19,160
Speaker 1: six times. That's eight split. Your run pass ratio is

1438
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: you you're telling me you're committed. You're telling me because

1439
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,559
Speaker 1: the game got a hand. I don't buy it. That's

1440
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: not true. That's just not the facts. Like I don't

1441
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,640
Speaker 1: care what it said. It's what I watch and what

1442
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:35,719
Speaker 1: I see and what I call. That's not the fact

1443
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: is you aren't committed to the run. You're not, and

1444
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:44,320
Speaker 1: that's okay. The game they were committed to the run

1445
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,439
Speaker 1: the last time they played Tennessee. Yeah they ran the ball,

1446
01:21:48,479 --> 01:21:53,080
Speaker 1: well they did. How many rushers do they have that game?

1447
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:57,679
Speaker 1: A lot? I mean J rob went over a hundred

1448
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: yards of that game. Absolutely, dude. Let's see J Robin

1449
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,479
Speaker 1: that game had had uh eighteen carries a hundred forty

1450
01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:13,759
Speaker 1: nine yards. Trevor had seven carries, Hi'd had five, Agnew

1451
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:19,080
Speaker 1: had one, So thirteen thirty one. How you should be

1452
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:24,719
Speaker 1: another social media question from Twitter today, what a place

1453
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:28,720
Speaker 1: at rate us under score Joe Hanson Happy birthday for yesterday, JP.

1454
01:22:29,000 --> 01:22:33,000
Speaker 1: Thank you thanks for a great commentary yesterday, Tony, You're welcome.

1455
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 1: With very little to be gained winning again this season,

1456
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 1: why aren't we maximizing the playing time for our rookies

1457
01:22:38,800 --> 01:22:43,080
Speaker 1: to help their development for next season? Hashtag duvall. I

1458
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: don't see Pete on that question anywhere, Tony, because what

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01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: did you do yesterday? JP? I worked here, I mean

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01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: for you. So he's thanking you for a birthday present

1461
01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,439
Speaker 1: for you working on a Sunday. I just said a

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01:22:58,439 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 1: happy birthday. Okay, That's all he said. Was that was it?

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01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:06,000
Speaker 1: It wasn't your birthday? Right? Yeah? It was? It was. Yeah,

1464
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:09,839
Speaker 1: Well we didn't know that. I did already wish happy birthday.

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01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,519
Speaker 1: Thanks for the call, Pete. I'm not like Pete. You know.

1466
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 1: I know my co workers and when their birthdays I

1467
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,400
Speaker 1: called them wishing happy birthday. Good job, Pete, very nice.

1468
01:23:17,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 1: So what do you is that the right age? No?

1469
01:23:21,920 --> 01:23:28,519
Speaker 1: Actually forty the Big four oh yesterday? Wow? JP's forty YEP,

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,680
Speaker 1: and Basella you're gonna be fifty soon, right, I'll be

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01:23:31,720 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: fifty next day April, Pete. Wow, so you're gonna go

1472
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,479
Speaker 1: into hall as a fifty year old? Not there yet,

1473
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:44,559
Speaker 1: but hopefully maybe a fifty year old. I like it.

1474
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:48,479
Speaker 1: Hopefully that'd be good. I think we have one more

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01:23:48,520 --> 01:23:50,439
Speaker 1: social media QUI, well, we answered the rest of that

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01:23:50,479 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 1: earlier tonight. The rookies playing and all that Cisco and

1477
01:23:53,840 --> 01:23:56,760
Speaker 1: all that at M camp zero one four? Who are

1478
01:23:56,800 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: we taking in the draft? What are the chances of

1479
01:23:59,000 --> 01:24:03,040
Speaker 1: landing up? Playmate? You're in free agency? Hashtag go Jagsny?

1480
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:04,559
Speaker 1: Who are you taking in the d I don't know.

1481
01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: You love the drunk care right now? Um? Well, what

1482
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,160
Speaker 1: playmakers out there? It's gonna be a free agent. I

1483
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:14,400
Speaker 1: don't know yet. Chris Godwin, he's not Pete. We'll just

1484
01:24:14,479 --> 01:24:23,520
Speaker 1: talked about that. Mike Williams he's okay, you can't run.

1485
01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:29,519
Speaker 1: He's big, he runs better than that Allen Robbinson does. Yeah,

1486
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:36,720
Speaker 1: I agree with that. Maybe Mike Williams. Maybe, I don't know. Well,

1487
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: I gotta draft. You gotta draft that speed. That Spete

1488
01:24:39,880 --> 01:24:43,360
Speaker 1: needs to be drafted. And Rod Dalmore and Elijah Morea

1489
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:51,240
Speaker 1: say hello from last year? How are they doing? Pete? Um?

1490
01:24:51,280 --> 01:24:53,640
Speaker 1: I just watched the Rams on Rams Cardinals game on

1491
01:24:53,720 --> 01:24:55,719
Speaker 1: tape from the first time around. Boy, they got creative

1492
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,960
Speaker 1: with Ron dal Moore, all those Jets sweeps and runs

1493
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,160
Speaker 1: and everything else. How about good night, and I know

1494
01:25:01,200 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 1: we'll get to Monday Night football jps will read no

1495
01:25:04,479 --> 01:25:09,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey to night yea cod covid. Yeah that's that's

1496
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 1: a blow for them. Yeah big um. We'll come back. Hey,

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01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 1: thanks for all the social media submissions. We can only

1498
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,639
Speaker 1: get to six tonight. And if you want to read

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01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 1: the rest, go check out Twitter and hit any of

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01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,920
Speaker 1: our handles and you can read until your heart's content.

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01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 1: We're back in a moment. We'll go around the NFL

1502
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:32,120
Speaker 1: and here's some radio calls from week number fourteen. It's

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:39,519
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back

1504
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:43,600
Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour Monday afternoon. J P Shadrick Tony was

1505
01:25:43,640 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: Sally Pete Prisco after a Jaguars lost to the Tennessee

1506
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:51,840
Speaker 1: Titans in Week fourteen, twenty nil. Jaguars ran for eight

1507
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 1: yards in the game yesterday. We have covered that. Let's

1508
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,599
Speaker 1: go around the National Football League and here's some radio

1509
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:01,040
Speaker 1: calls from some of the games on the league Thursday,

1510
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,880
Speaker 1: the Vikings over the Steelers thirty six to twenty eight. Tony,

1511
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,160
Speaker 1: you were at that game right Thursday night football. It was.

1512
01:26:06,479 --> 01:26:09,559
Speaker 1: It was a crazy game. Yeah, it was all over

1513
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:12,040
Speaker 1: the place, like the Steelers were getting killed. They couldn't

1514
01:26:12,120 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: tackle Dalvin Cook and he was on pace for like

1515
01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: the league record at one in one game um. He

1516
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 1: was averaging at one point eighteen eighteen yards and carry um.

1517
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:28,640
Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, like midway through the

1518
01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 1: third quarter, the Vikings can't help twenty nine nothing, can't

1519
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: help themselves, start throwing interceptions and turn it over and

1520
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,400
Speaker 1: it comes Pittsburgh had had the chance to tie it

1521
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:41,920
Speaker 1: up at the end. What were they doing? What were

1522
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: they doing? Her Cousins had that glazed look on his

1523
01:26:46,120 --> 01:26:49,160
Speaker 1: face until he had that shot to oz Osborne down

1524
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:52,680
Speaker 1: the field. You did that game, Tony, Yeah? Did you

1525
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,960
Speaker 1: see Keenan? How didin't go on the field beforehand with

1526
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:01,200
Speaker 1: all the COVID part Yeah? Yeah. Halkins over the Panthers

1527
01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: yesterday one the Browns over the Ravens. Miles Garrett with

1528
01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:09,479
Speaker 1: a fumble return touchdown. Jim Donovan on the Cleveland Browns

1529
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,799
Speaker 1: Radio Network. Three receivers near side to the left. Brown

1530
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: comes out near side to the left. He's the widest

1531
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: one out wide to the right. In the backfield, it's

1532
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,599
Speaker 1: Habeas Murray. Huckley takes the shotgun staff back to pass.

1533
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,120
Speaker 1: Let's the ball got stripped away. Hit in the air

1534
01:27:23,160 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 1: of the bronze fight for the ball and it's picked

1535
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:31,280
Speaker 1: up by Biles Garrett. He's got a score. Touchdown. Rolling

1536
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 1: on the field is a thumb will recovered by the

1537
01:27:33,360 --> 01:27:39,240
Speaker 1: deepends cuts down Miles Garrett hit the ball, it burned

1538
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,400
Speaker 1: it around, he picked it up and then he ran

1539
01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:45,600
Speaker 1: the last fifteen yards, went it for a touchdown. Have

1540
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 1: the Bronze League twenty three to three? Want to play

1541
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,719
Speaker 1: Pete Garrett the best defensive player in the league this year?

1542
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 1: For you. He's been phenomenal. He's in the conversation, no

1543
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,400
Speaker 1: doubt about it. What one quick thing about a game

1544
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: down nine with eight and a half minutes to go

1545
01:28:03,520 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: in the game, John Harbor went for two. Yeah, they're

1546
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:11,639
Speaker 1: making a seven point games, so you know what you need.

1547
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,280
Speaker 1: That's when they analytics say, it's like, if you miss it,

1548
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:17,240
Speaker 1: you're still doing two scores, right, I know, But if

1549
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:20,839
Speaker 1: you do that, I think it's been tried like eleven

1550
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,400
Speaker 1: times in the last decade or something, and you know

1551
01:28:24,400 --> 01:28:28,479
Speaker 1: how many teams have won doing that one. It's stupid.

1552
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:32,200
Speaker 1: You're missing my point. I'm just telling you what I

1553
01:28:32,240 --> 01:28:34,320
Speaker 1: didn't say. I agree with it. I would I would

1554
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 1: kick the extra point and be down eight, know that

1555
01:28:36,520 --> 01:28:39,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to try to win at the end. The

1556
01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,960
Speaker 1: whole idea of knowing what you gotta get, well, who can't.

1557
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:45,080
Speaker 1: What's the difference? You know what you you're gonna have

1558
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 1: to get that two point at some point, but why

1559
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 1: not keep it so you can get it later in

1560
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 1: the game and have a chance to win it. Keep

1561
01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 1: it turned out, by the way, as it turned out,

1562
01:28:53,720 --> 01:28:56,000
Speaker 1: they scored a touchdown and kicked the extra point. Have

1563
01:28:56,120 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: they kicked the extra point, they would have been had

1564
01:28:57,760 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 1: the opportunity to go for two, and or if they

1565
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:04,400
Speaker 1: got the two when they did it, they could extra

1566
01:29:04,439 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 1: point with the time it the bottom line, here's the

1567
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:10,680
Speaker 1: thing where your argument falls apart. Pete. Either way you

1568
01:29:10,720 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 1: need a two point conversion. So what does it matter

1569
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,599
Speaker 1: if you do a way or after later? It doesn't matter.

1570
01:29:16,760 --> 01:29:18,680
Speaker 1: If you don't get it, you're done, You're down to

1571
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 1: you're down nine. No you're not done. They start a

1572
01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,800
Speaker 1: chance with the onside kick. My point is if you

1573
01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,519
Speaker 1: don't get if you have a chance, if you don't

1574
01:29:27,520 --> 01:29:29,400
Speaker 1: get the boy play then to Pete. If you don't

1575
01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: get the two point at the end, you start to

1576
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: kick down inside, you're missing them. Just the math part

1577
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:36,679
Speaker 1: of it, just math. No, I get the math part.

1578
01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: Doesn't matter. You got to get a two pointers sooner

1579
01:29:38,640 --> 01:29:41,720
Speaker 1: or later. Like I know, I get that. As a journalist.

1580
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,280
Speaker 1: You don't do a lot of math, a lot of writing.

1581
01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:46,720
Speaker 1: I know the math. I know the math and that

1582
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:49,160
Speaker 1: By the way, all the data says going for two

1583
01:29:49,400 --> 01:29:52,120
Speaker 1: down by nine is not right, that's not true. The

1584
01:29:52,120 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: analytics say, do it. It gives you a better chance

1585
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:59,200
Speaker 1: of winning. I just explained to it's happened. What the

1586
01:29:59,240 --> 01:30:01,519
Speaker 1: data says. Look at the analytics. I'm not listen. I

1587
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,840
Speaker 1: don't have the algorithm to draw it up for you.

1588
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: Right now. That's what it's at. I was told there

1589
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:08,760
Speaker 1: would be no math, uh in this Listening to the

1590
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Seahawks hard headed Seahawks over the Texans were shot Penny

1591
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:15,240
Speaker 1: a forty seven yard touchdown run for the Hawks. Steve

1592
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 1: Rabel of Seahawks Broadcasting with a call second down and

1593
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,920
Speaker 1: seven run by Penny left side, breaks one tackle first down.

1594
01:30:22,080 --> 01:30:30,439
Speaker 1: He has gone ten five touchdown Seahawks. Ras Shot Penny

1595
01:30:30,720 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 1: breaks in at the line of scrimmage and takes off

1596
01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:37,880
Speaker 1: for forty seven yards. There's a hundred plus day for

1597
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:42,920
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, a hundred thirty seven yards for just Rashad Penny.

1598
01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: Neither one of these teams had a great record of

1599
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,160
Speaker 1: course coming in. Seahawks are now five and eight, and

1600
01:30:48,400 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 1: have they kind of figured some things out or they

1601
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:53,760
Speaker 1: just playing a bad team yesterday, pet oh, they were

1602
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 1: playing a bad team. But they want a couple of

1603
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:56,640
Speaker 1: a row and they still have hope. I mean, they

1604
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 1: gotta win out basically to get in. But but they're

1605
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 1: playing bad. Russell Wilson is playing better that since Pete

1606
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: Carroll stormed off the podium, since his finger got better.

1607
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 1: That's basically what it is. Is that that helps also

1608
01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:17,320
Speaker 1: Chiefs over the Raiders. Big about the Raiders dancing on

1609
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:19,640
Speaker 1: the arrowhead logo in the middle of the field for

1610
01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:22,040
Speaker 1: the game, and you can say, and got way, got

1611
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:24,760
Speaker 1: him going, and then they promptly gave up forty eight

1612
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: to the Chiefs. Mistake. Does that matter? No, but it's

1613
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: a bad bad it's a bad look. It's a bad look,

1614
01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:35,760
Speaker 1: but had no impact in the game. I mean, they

1615
01:31:35,800 --> 01:31:39,479
Speaker 1: might have given up forty eight anyway. So the chief

1616
01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:42,479
Speaker 1: the Chiefs still haven't look great on offense yet think

1617
01:31:42,520 --> 01:31:45,080
Speaker 1: about that they scored forty eight a great on offense.

1618
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:48,080
Speaker 1: He but just playing fantastic like a defensive score early

1619
01:31:48,200 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 1: in the game. Saints over the Jets thirty to nine yesterday,

1620
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:56,400
Speaker 1: and then the Cowboys against Washington a fumble return touchdown

1621
01:31:56,479 --> 01:31:59,840
Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys defense Brad sham on one of

1622
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,759
Speaker 1: last three the fan and the Dallas Cowboys Radio Network

1623
01:32:03,400 --> 01:32:10,200
Speaker 1: to Washington late first quarter at their own empty gun

1624
01:32:10,280 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 1: for Heineck, fourth and two back to throw rushing sack

1625
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:18,320
Speaker 1: back Parsons to fumble out recovered by Dallas. They'll run

1626
01:32:18,360 --> 01:32:23,120
Speaker 1: it down the sideline Churnstrong dances in. There will be

1627
01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:27,559
Speaker 1: a Dallas touchdown that made an eight team nothing. Dallas

1628
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:33,800
Speaker 1: goes on to win. Yeah, and that's the end of

1629
01:32:33,800 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 1: the division. That that division is over. Cowboys are in

1630
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs. And and I'm gonna say this about the

1631
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:42,599
Speaker 1: Cowboys front man. They get DeMarcus Lawrence back. Randy Gregory

1632
01:32:42,680 --> 01:32:45,080
Speaker 1: is now back Neville. Gallimore's back in the middle of

1633
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 1: that line. He had a sack, and they can move

1634
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,439
Speaker 1: Parsons all over the place. They're gonna be a handful

1635
01:32:49,479 --> 01:32:53,840
Speaker 1: for profitsive lines in the postseason. I agree. Broncos over

1636
01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 1: the Lions thirty eight to ten, Chargers over the Giants

1637
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:00,920
Speaker 1: thirty seven. Want to throw by her Bert on that

1638
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: touchdown pass like sixty in the airs. That throw is

1639
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,360
Speaker 1: the one. Those are the ones that should be made

1640
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:14,920
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville every once in a while. Over the Bengals. Three.

1641
01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 1: The Buccaneers against the Bills, a wild game in Tampa,

1642
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:20,680
Speaker 1: the game winning overtime touchdown Jane dicker Off on the

1643
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:25,120
Speaker 1: Bucketeers Radio Network. Godwin wide to the left, Evans wide

1644
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,160
Speaker 1: to the right, shotgun look with four net on the

1645
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: right hip of Brady. Here's the snap pressure coming from

1646
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,680
Speaker 1: the outside. Brady throw pot ball first out of the

1647
01:33:32,680 --> 01:33:35,160
Speaker 1: fifty outside the number sporting tell the thirty yard line.

1648
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:41,439
Speaker 1: Parraman pushhot Parraman touchdown, Tampa Bay Fox running overtime Paramon

1649
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:49,639
Speaker 1: Paramon Parraman, wild one in Tampa. They're good, Pete, they're running,

1650
01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: They're getting you know, this is what they did last year.

1651
01:33:52,280 --> 01:33:54,680
Speaker 1: Down the stretch, start playing really good football. And the

1652
01:33:54,760 --> 01:33:58,560
Speaker 1: question now is the Bills are sitting in the seventh

1653
01:33:58,720 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 1: spot for the play house right now. If it ended today,

1654
01:34:02,360 --> 01:34:05,960
Speaker 1: the Bills make the playoffs. Yeah. Their schedule is easy.

1655
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 1: They got New England and three Winnie winnable games at home, Jets, Falcons, Panthers.

1656
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: They're in. And one quick thing about Perriman. He was

1657
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:21,120
Speaker 1: out there available and he can run the Packers over

1658
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:26,960
Speaker 1: the Bears last night to thirty thank you piece Monday

1659
01:34:27,040 --> 01:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Night football. It's a huge game in the NFC West.

1660
01:34:30,360 --> 01:34:33,600
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford, Aaron Donald no, Jaylon Ramsey. Tonight though and

1661
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,920
Speaker 1: the eight and for Los Angeles. Rams was at Kyler

1662
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,040
Speaker 1: Murray and the ten and two Arizona Cardinals. Second meeting

1663
01:34:39,080 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: of the year. The Cardinals won it back in Week four.

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Speaker 1: Who you got tonight, ton I think the Cardinals laying

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Speaker 1: on them. I think the Cardinals are better. I think

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are better too. I think they win that game.

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Speaker 1: And look, the Cardinals don't get any respect. Their their

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Speaker 1: third and scoring differential, fourth and total offense and fourth

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Speaker 1: the total defense, and nobody believes in them. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: got ten wins. Wow, I need to beat the Rams.

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Speaker 1: I don't think. I mean, I think the Rams will

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, but I don't think they're gonna make

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Speaker 1: any noise in the playoffs. All right, but you know

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Speaker 1: the Rams, and I think this is still right. Peat

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Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. We're JP. Maybe. No, the

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Speaker 1: Rams have not beaten a team with a winning record

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Speaker 1: this year. Well they beat the box Box. Sorry, maybe

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Speaker 1: one team with about this Matt staffords and seventeen against

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Speaker 1: teams five games above his career. Wow. Wow, Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: the old Kirk Cousins thing, like he had issues with

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Speaker 1: teams winning. Yeah. Hey, Pete, fun show today. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: to you next week. You gotta see you guys. I

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Speaker 1: had fun. You didn't have fun, Tony, I had fun.

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Speaker 1: I'd like to do this after a win. Thought, let's

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Speaker 1: get some ws for sure. Pete Briscoe, Tony Biselli, our

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Speaker 1: entire crew, Brent Reaber, Joe Fortunado, I'm J. P. Shadrick

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Speaker 1: and we'll catch you next time. Thanks for listening. It's

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.