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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered story in The Herald Today Karen

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Speaker 1: Gregian and uh Andrew Callahan. Yeah, I believe teams paid

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Speaker 1: a lot of people criticizing Mac all season about his

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Speaker 1: make me do this. I was Dearrolovsky on Mac Jones

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Speaker 1: this year National Media. I was current Warner on on

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Speaker 1: Mac Jones this year. All really killing Mac or killing

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Speaker 1: the offense? Well, kill the offense but both No, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: And I just wanted to point out an error in

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Speaker 1: Mike's draft analysis. Don't look at top flight tackles to

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Speaker 1: take at fourteen, look at mid round tackles to take

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Speaker 1: at fourteen instead. Thanks Even Jayalen hurts like an absolutely

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Speaker 1: see down. Hey, Mike, Remember I asked none of them

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Speaker 1: going down rabbit holes on YouTube about physics, and that

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Speaker 1: was just like you said, going I thought that was

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Speaker 1: going on another direction. But anyway, this is Patriot's Unfiltered,

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Speaker 1: fueled by Duncan all right. Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. It's

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Speaker 1: Tuesday here at Gilette Stadium, and we've got a lot

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Speaker 1: to talk about from the Shrine Bowl and the Patriots

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Speaker 1: to the games this weekend and referees, Paul's favorite subject,

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Speaker 1: and injuries, injuries and quarterbacks and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 1: It's good. It's a lot to talk about, so and

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Speaker 1: only three of us to do it. Yeah, it's Deuce,

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Speaker 1: it's Paul and myself, Evans out there. Tamara's out out

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Speaker 1: there all right in Vegas covering the Shrine Bowl. So

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Speaker 1: let's let's start with that. I guess right sure, I'm

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Speaker 1: again a little bit of information here with the coaches

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Speaker 1: Belichick and Troy Brown. That's kind of cool to hear

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Speaker 1: Brian Belichick talk a little bit before. I never really

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Speaker 1: heard him on the field. So, yeah, they're pumping things out.

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Speaker 1: A lot of Zay Flowers content from PC, so a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys getting attached to him. One of the Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean if if man, if the Patriots don't draft

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Speaker 1: Zay Flowers, I think they're gonna have a heart attack. Evan.

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Speaker 1: But I was thinking about. You know, so the Patriots

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Speaker 1: and all the other scouts from other teams are there.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they're taking requests like, hey, no, seriously, No,

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Speaker 1: it was funny the way you said, I'll be taking

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Speaker 1: requests like, you know, can we see this guy against

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Speaker 1: Are they taking suggestions from other teams? Uh? And and

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Speaker 1: putting guys in scenario so they can better evaluate. Oh.

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Speaker 1: One thing I saw yesterday I thought was interesting and

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Speaker 1: bigger powerbacks. I don't know if that signals anything, but

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Speaker 1: I mean I do. I do tie it in a

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Speaker 1: they're more interested in Yeah yeah, but you know, like

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Speaker 1: how much do you tip your hand? Oh? The Patriots

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Speaker 1: you know. But I don't know. I mean, we talked

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Speaker 1: we'll be posting. We've been posting and we'll continue to

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, Yeah, that was that on the sideline in

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Speaker 1: Well they Yeah, they had them talking in saying you know,

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Speaker 1: don't know posting it. I'm just saying, I thought you

424
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Speaker 1: had to make the call on Mahomes. I thought you

425
00:20:04,440 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: didn't have I I'm with Paul on this one. But

426
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,439
Speaker 1: I think Paul had a great take yesterday in the

427
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,080
Speaker 1: morning when he came up, and it's just it's it's

428
00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 1: having awareness of where we are in the game. These

429
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,800
Speaker 1: are two guys, the Super Bowls on the line. They're

430
00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,879
Speaker 1: both running for a spot. Now, did Joseph Aside lower

431
00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 1: his shoulder and plant him No, he almost didn't make

432
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: any contact. I mean, it's like he put his hand

433
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,320
Speaker 1: on his shoulder. I get. I mean, I get your points.

434
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Speaker 1: On what we've seen. They're gonna call it, don't. I

435
00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 1: just wish we live in a place where he said,

436
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,720
Speaker 1: the super Bowls on the line. Those are two guys

437
00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,840
Speaker 1: trying to make a play. Nobody was hurt. There was

438
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 1: nothing malicious about it, you know, Joseph was I was

439
00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 1: trying to like catch his balance more than anything, which

440
00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:40,959
Speaker 1: I thought he broke his leg for a second. There

441
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: there was like one slow motion replay where his whole

442
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:46,520
Speaker 1: leg like shimmer. But I get your point, But I

443
00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 1: just wish they wouldn't have to call those things. I wish,

444
00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 1: especially within the moment, and that goes to the Brady

445
00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 1: thing of just have some awareness of was it blatant?

446
00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,280
Speaker 1: Was it over the top? Was it injured? Like to

447
00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: inflict an injury like those things should be called, but

448
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,119
Speaker 1: an incidental contact, you're bull kind of falling out of

449
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:02,960
Speaker 1: bounds to decide who goes to the Super Bowl. It

450
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 1: was like I just wanted to term my TV off

451
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: and be like, well, there it is, okay. You know,

452
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 1: it's just so anticlimactic and disappointing with and I will

453
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 1: never argue that by the letter of the law, it

454
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,120
Speaker 1: was a penalty. Fred's right. The guy had his feet

455
00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,000
Speaker 1: out of bounds and he was contacted. Yeah, I won't

456
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,840
Speaker 1: say hit because he wasn't hit, but he was contacted

457
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: while out of bounds. So there's a rule in the

458
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: book that black and white that says that's a penalty

459
00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: if he get it, if he had I just think

460
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 1: that I'd like to have a league where an official

461
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: can look at it and say, that's really, that's not

462
00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,520
Speaker 1: that's not much there. I don't want to I don't

463
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:37,159
Speaker 1: want to hit one team a chance to win this

464
00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 1: game on that right. I wish that someone would have

465
00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,560
Speaker 1: common sense to do that. But that jackass will probably

466
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:44,359
Speaker 1: get the grade that he needs to move on to

467
00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,720
Speaker 1: the next line because it said here he was out

468
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,840
Speaker 1: of bounds and he got hit, and he gets the

469
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:52,240
Speaker 1: congratulations for having the balls to make the call that

470
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,840
Speaker 1: sent one team now, and again, I didn't care who

471
00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:56,760
Speaker 1: won the game. I hear Andy Hart, and I hear

472
00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,600
Speaker 1: Paul's Guy Felder saying, just get rid of replay. It

473
00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 1: doesn't work, get rid of it. I disagree I say,

474
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,760
Speaker 1: just keep working to make it better, make it work.

475
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 1: You know, it's like, yeah, it's it. There are times

476
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: where replay has failed or the humans behind the replay

477
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:17,080
Speaker 1: have failed. But think about all the times that replay

478
00:22:17,119 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 1: has gotten it right. I think that far overshadows the

479
00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 1: times screw it up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for the and

480
00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:27,119
Speaker 1: I think, and I'm talking about all sports, not just football.

481
00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,560
Speaker 1: I think that let's just keep working to make replay better.

482
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 1: Let's invest the money to make sure we have enough cameras,

483
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,880
Speaker 1: and let's allow the guy the Eye and the Sky

484
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 1: New York to intervene and so like. But and then

485
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 1: is that just like in set period? So right? Like

486
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,879
Speaker 1: that everybody? So like DeVante Smith, was that not probably

487
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 1: should have been. Yeah, you know the the quote unquote

488
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: expedited replay that we saw throughout the playoffs until the

489
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 1: season's on the line. You know. But like I say,

490
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 1: keep working to make it better. You know, I agree. Again,

491
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Speaker 1: I'm not a like a score to Patriots fan that

492
00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: somehow had something taken away from me Sunday because Kansas

493
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,399
Speaker 1: City one. I didn't care who won. I was just

494
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,399
Speaker 1: rooting for both teams to score. It was much like

495
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Buffalo game last year where I just

496
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 1: wanted to see these two great quarterbacks go head to head.

497
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 1: I just don't want to see a sixty yard field

498
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: goal with eight seconds left turn into a forty five

499
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 1: yard or yeah for that and that's the first bat

500
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,080
Speaker 1: and that and this show is the first thing I

501
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: thought of when this game ended, And I'm like, great,

502
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: that's that's what we're gonna be talking about. The calls.

503
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: And I don't think the game was fixed, No, I

504
00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,200
Speaker 1: just think it's incompetence. I mean they're incompetent every week

505
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: the league. You know, they had to have Patrick Mahomes,

506
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,080
Speaker 1: Like why wouldn't you have to have Joe. I don't

507
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: know why. It would be such a bad story to

508
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: have this Joe Barrow kid come come out of nowhere

509
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: to an Ohio kid who's playing in his home state

510
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 1: and leading this downtrodden franchise to back to back Super Bowls.

511
00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:51,159
Speaker 1: I don't know why that's not a storybook season for

512
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,199
Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, But I agree with Fred on that,

513
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: Like why why why is it all about getting Mahomes there? Yeah,

514
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,360
Speaker 1: Like Mahomes is going to get there on his own

515
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 1: plenty he's that good. Just be so hard to really do,

516
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 1: like if you were really like a referee, like not

517
00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 1: just the referee, but the whole crew, Like all right,

518
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,320
Speaker 1: we're in it, like to do it subtly, and it's

519
00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 1: just impossible. I don't, I don't. They're just bad, that's all. Yeah.

520
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,600
Speaker 1: It was just it wasn't a well officiated game. I

521
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 1: can say that. And it's more so like the calls

522
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,719
Speaker 1: of the calls. There's gonna be bad calls. But this

523
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 1: is a my my guy. Felger kept making this point yesterday.

524
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,800
Speaker 1: They like just the operation of both of those games

525
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: was so clunky. Yeah, like well, just sudden this is

526
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,440
Speaker 1: like the second game, and like in a couple of

527
00:24:33,480 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 1: weeks where they've had to replace the chains. The other game,

528
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:37,920
Speaker 1: they didn't have a replacement chain. They had to use

529
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: you know, surgical taper, you know medical tape. I didn't

530
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: tape it up. Was that in the Philadelphia? Yeah? No, No,

531
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: last week they a chain broke and they didn't have

532
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 1: a backup chain. They taped it up with tape that

533
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,280
Speaker 1: you would tape your ankle with. Yeah, I didn't see that.

534
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like, yeah, I do wonder like if the

535
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 1: chain like with all the technology, like the chain, like

536
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 1: you couldn't just kill like like chain to like laser things,

537
00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:06,359
Speaker 1: like we know what's exactly ten yards right? Right? Do

538
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:07,480
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like we don't have to

539
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: like that chain? Is that really tends right? I like

540
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:16,119
Speaker 1: your chain links? You know, is it too much to

541
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,080
Speaker 1: ask to have changed with lasers? So funny, like you know,

542
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,200
Speaker 1: with all the technology, they're still doing the chain game.

543
00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 1: And look, you know, I know there's a lot of talk,

544
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you put a chip in the football,

545
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 1: and I know they have done that, They've experimented with that.

546
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 1: I don't need a chip in the football because that's

547
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 1: still flawed. I think that, but like the measurements and

548
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: stuff should be exact, right. I think the biggest advancement

549
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: was just going from like having a flip the downmarker

550
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,399
Speaker 1: over to now you can just kind of slide it

551
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 1: up one spot. Like that's that's the extent that. How

552
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: about in college they have the digital Yeah, I don't

553
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 1: watch You don't watch college football because you have a girlfriend.

554
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: It's it's funny. So we have the Eagles and the Lays.

555
00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: You're gonna want to know about that. It's an inside

556
00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:01,920
Speaker 1: joke about alex Park Eagles are early dogs, Is that right?

557
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: I thought they were no two point favorites two. I mean,

558
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 1: I probably liked the Eagles in this one, I think.

559
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,600
Speaker 1: I mean, it's hard not to respect what Patrick Mahomes

560
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: did in that game and what he did, you know,

561
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: I mean I thought they were done. I mean, I

562
00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: thought after that Burrow interception that all they're gonna score

563
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 1: here and it's gonna get out of hand, and the

564
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,119
Speaker 1: Cincinnati defense came up with a great stop and in

565
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 1: that point, I think that was when Cincinnati went in

566
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: that long drive right at the end of the half,

567
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,360
Speaker 1: they unfortunately didn't get, you know, and you could see

568
00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: the disappointment on Joe Burrow's face. But I thought that

569
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 1: moment was really felt like Cincinnati was taken over the

570
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 1: game until you know, maybe late late in the third quarter,

571
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 1: and that's when it kind of started going back the

572
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: other way. Well, but you gotta admit, if Mahomes hadn't

573
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: fumbled that ball, and I don't know how it was,

574
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: the game was hanging by a thread right there and that. Yeah,

575
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: but I agree with Deuce. It looked like there was

576
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: that that drive at the end of the half. Then

577
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,320
Speaker 1: they came out stopped three and out to stop to

578
00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 1: stop him, to stop that, and then they went right

579
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: down the field and scored a touchdown to tie it.

580
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 1: Then they then then all of a sudden, they started

581
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: going back and forth a little bit. Kansas City scored,

582
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: Cincinnati scored. It's twenty to twenty. Then since Kansas City

583
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 1: kind of I thought controlled the fourth quarter um slowing

584
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:14,640
Speaker 1: Cincinnati down a little bit more. But it it just

585
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 1: was unfortunate that I think the only thing anybody really

586
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: takes away from the game is is the sloppiness of

587
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:24,959
Speaker 1: the officiating and Cincinnati. It's it's obscuring Cincinnati fans, you know,

588
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: need to look in the mirror too, because they blew

589
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: a lot of opportunities in that Oh yeah, like they

590
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 1: had the ball with two and a half minutes left

591
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: at the end of the game and they overcame the

592
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 1: intentional grounding call, which was netrocity by the way. Yeah

593
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 1: that they and you know, even though like say, everybody's like,

594
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: well they got the first down anyway, but that pushed

595
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 1: them back, like that counts. That's more yards they had

596
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,160
Speaker 1: to get again, Like they had you know, they had

597
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: a backtrack and replaced those yards, and I just thought,

598
00:27:57,040 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: I think it was was it. It might have been

599
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,880
Speaker 1: in that possession. I thought they got stopped the possession

600
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: before that. In the fourth quarter, I think they will

601
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,119
Speaker 1: move in a little bit. They had a second and

602
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: three and a third and three and they went long

603
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: and the second one got intercepted. Now again they overcame

604
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 1: that because Kansas City didn't score off of that, but

605
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: lost opportunities. I think Cincinnati he had a chance, you know,

606
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: referees aside, they still had the ball with a chance

607
00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: to get down to win the game, and they couldn't

608
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: do it. Yep, yep. All right, So now we have

609
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: two weeks before we get more football. Yeah, right now,

610
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: I like Philadelphia, but I reserve, as I wrote in

611
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: the notes, I reserved the right to change my mind

612
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: if I see evidence that Mahomes can move, because to me,

613
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: that's the whole my sole reason for picking Philadelphia's Mahomes

614
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 1: can't move, and with that defensive line, I think the

615
00:28:45,880 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 1: injuries to their receivers, yeah, but I think if his

616
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: if he could move, I wouldn't worry about who was

617
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 1: throwing too. Yeah, because the great ones like Brady Mahomes Manning.

618
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: They don't need they don't need that number one guy

619
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: to throw to right. It is. It is remarkable Kansas

620
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: City's doing though. I mean, I think, you know a

621
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: lot of I mean, I know I get a little

622
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,320
Speaker 1: bit skewed based on you know that they were coming

623
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: up when the Patriots were kind of going down. But uh,

624
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: just what they do with Mahomes, Kelsey, Chris Jones, you know,

625
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: with that little core. I mean, you certainly have good

626
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: players around him, but those are the guys and the

627
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: key moments that just seemed to make the plays that

628
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: at the biggest moments. Mahomes to do that, like, I

629
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: mean a couple of ones out after he got hurt,

630
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: like you know, when he got like taken down and

631
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 1: then he was limping, and I thought, I throw a hardman,

632
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: you know, And I know Peter King made a big

633
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:32,960
Speaker 1: deal with this. He looked like he needed some time

634
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: there and he kind of lucky. They thought he's a hardman.

635
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: Gut hurt right on the catch, you go down, but um,

636
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: you lose Tony Hardman and Smith Schuster, it just doesn't matter.

637
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,520
Speaker 1: And a couple of touchdowns and then he you know,

638
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: did enough to get them in field goal range with

639
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: the help of the penalty, he would have had to

640
00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: complete another pass without the penalty. Um. Yeah, I mean

641
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 1: it was a pretty incredible performance given that that touchdown

642
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: he threw to to Valdez scantling with Mike Hilton right

643
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 1: there diving. I mean, that's a perfect throw. He's amazing,

644
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: It's truly amazing. He's he's the best quarterback in the

645
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: league right now. He doesn't look or sound good, but

646
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: he's the best. Yeah. Like you're watching too, like you

647
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: like even at the end of the game, like to

648
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:27,240
Speaker 1: play before the the run. You know, he has the

649
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,680
Speaker 1: thing that the head goes to the side and he

650
00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: like he's closing his hand together, like asa, how all

651
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: right the clock has stopped. He can huddle huddle here. Ye.

652
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: He has like the quirkiest mannerisms ever. Yeah, he's so good.

653
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: He's so good. Yeah. Um. Very minor nitpick with the clock.

654
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: Andy Reid gets destroyed for his clock management. He had

655
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: two really really bad examples of this. Um at the

656
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 1: end of the first half on that drive that that

657
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: deuce is talking about. He goes three and out on

658
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: that without taking any time off. The clock took over

659
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,440
Speaker 1: at the thirty nine yard line. I think gave Cincinnati

660
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: the ball back before the two minute warning. You should

661
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: have at least gotten into field goal range there, but

662
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: very minor one after the controversial flag. So now you

663
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 1: have a forty five yard field goal, so you're in

664
00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 1: field goal range. You don't you don't need to do anything.

665
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: There's eight seconds left, no time outs. What do you do?

666
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: What do you for? Who? Kansas City City? Maybe ice him?

667
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 1: Why would you want to know the Bengals with ice him? Right,

668
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: I think there's eight seconds left. You want to try

669
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: to make the field goal the last play of the game, right,

670
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: take the snap, Mahomes throws the ball over the guy's

671
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: head on the sideline. You take three seconds off the clock.

672
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,400
Speaker 1: Then you kick the field goal. Yeah, I found kicked

673
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: the field goal. They had a kick off, Like I'm sorry.

674
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: Miracles happen, Yeah, I mean no one knows it more

675
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: than the Patriots. Yeah, like funny things can happen. Yeah,

676
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: if you do it my way, you can't lose. I

677
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 1: wonder if there's a set like is there we need

678
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: at least four seconds for a play? Like did they

679
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: have some on a formula? Because I was found myself

680
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: thinking that as they were getting cloth start, until how

681
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: do you manage it? You know, especially when you're on

682
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 1: like the two and you're like, man, we're like we're here,

683
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: Like that's like they kick. They kicked the field goal

684
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: on third down on first down, on first down, So yeah,

685
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: probably you just take the snap and throw it like

686
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: there's no there's saying, but listen, you might have chance

687
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: for another one. Well, I mean, I I mean, I

688
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: really like I was thinking the same thing with what

689
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Paul is laying out, and I just in my brain

690
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 1: was racking like is there a way to ensure that

691
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,600
Speaker 1: you have a two second pass? You know, like like

692
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: just something that it absolutely used and teams used to

693
00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: do that. They would if they had the option at

694
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: the end. They would do it with like eight ten

695
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: seconds left. And if it's a bad snap, you could

696
00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: you know, throw it away in kick on the next down.

697
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 1: That's why in overtime a lot of times they would

698
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: start kicking it on third down. But you you can't, like,

699
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: what is there a better chance of a kick or

700
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,600
Speaker 1: bobbled snap? Like maybe he was thinking about the player

701
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: that Mahomes had earlier where somehow we fumbled the ball Yeah,

702
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 1: when he was just throwing a quick screen pass. Maybe

703
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: he didn't. I don't know. Is it an egregious mistake, No,

704
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: very minor. But it's one of those things where like

705
00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: Sean McDermott is crucified for kicking the ball last year

706
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: with thirteen seconds left. If he kicked that short and

707
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 1: the guy returned it, he'd be crucified for not kicking

708
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: into the end zone. Like, it's one of those things.

709
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: Whatever happens after that, it's going to illustrate. I like

710
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: to like pose the problems that can happen either way.

711
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: What did you think. I thought it was kind of

712
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 1: interesting you brought up Badard. He did a right I

713
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: think it was yesterday maybe, but just talking about the

714
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: play caller, guys, coaches that are having trouble at times

715
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 1: with the clock management, you know, guys who get so

716
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: buried into the playsheet and everything that he was kind

717
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:55,000
Speaker 1: of bringing up for teams like you know, Eagles and

718
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers and the Chiefs. I have a couple

719
00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: of things on that now. I think there are plenty

720
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 1: of things that you can criticize Kyle Shanahan about, you know,

721
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: in these big games. I think I think he gets

722
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:09,680
Speaker 1: a little I think he gets but I think he

723
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: gets a little tight in big games, and I think

724
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: that's an element um the DeVante Smith not decision to

725
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: not challenge. I don't kill him for um. And I

726
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 1: know a lot of people have made a big deal

727
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: of DeVante Smith's reaction. Yeah, couldn't you see teams doing

728
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: that on purpose? I was just gonna say the same thing,

729
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 1: Paul to bait them into doing it and wasting a timeout.

730
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: And to me, it's not even like everybody's like, it's

731
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: the first quarter. The timeouts is not that important. It's

732
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: not the first half. Three timeouts, you lose the challenge.

733
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: The challenge is important, right, Going the rest of the

734
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 1: game with only one challenge that is important. Yeah. So yeah,

735
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 1: I've seen it many times where you know, you watch

736
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:56,000
Speaker 1: the replay and the guy absolutely caught it. When you

737
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:57,839
Speaker 1: watch it again, they're like, oh, it looked like he didn't.

738
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: You know, he's trying to like talk, that's a play.

739
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: All teams have that big play. We're gonna hurry to

740
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: the line. You know, maybe I caught it, maybe I didn't,

741
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
Speaker 1: but let's try to get the snap off. That's why

742
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 1: the eye in the Sky needs to step in there,

743
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: because I'm sure that they didn't get a good look

744
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 1: at that. But I don't think that's necessarily Shannahan's fault.

745
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 1: Like someone's got to be looking at that for him

746
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, throw the challenge Kyle, right, you know,

747
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 1: it looks like he lost that, right, And I also

748
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,840
Speaker 1: you need to trust your team, but even that angle

749
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: was probably not available right away. Oh, they showed like

750
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: three replays and you couldn't tell. And then finally they

751
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: showed that one from the back where you could see

752
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: the ball dragging across the field. Clearly didn't catch it,

753
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: didn't maintain it, right. I mean, I think he did

754
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: catch it, but I don't want to argue with what

755
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 1: they think is a catch in that league. But he

756
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: clearly would have been overruled overturned on replay. Yeah, clearly

757
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 1: he hit the ground. I'm getting back to the Patriots

758
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: a little bit. Just the Bill O'Brien update. Yes, he

759
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 1: is up at the Shrine game, so he's out there,

760
00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: so we don't know like yet what he's gonna do

761
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 1: with the rest of his staff, but they are who

762
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: is the old lineman that they ryan went down that

763
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 1: they interviewed former Patriot, and I guess he's doing a

764
00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: pretty good job wherever he's at. So yeah, and he

765
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: was I remember at the time he was disappointed that

766
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 1: he didn't get promoted from assistant offensive line coach. Um.

767
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 1: I think there was some movement on the staff and

768
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: he didn't get a bump up. Okay, so he's probably

769
00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: ready to move on. Yeah. So if I don't know,

770
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,680
Speaker 1: and this is kind of I mean, I would expect

771
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: something soon. I mean, it seems like he's dragging on

772
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 1: a little bit. Now if you've got Billy Oh, you've

773
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: interviewed all these offensive line coaches, and is it going

774
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,879
Speaker 1: to stop at offensive line? Will there be other guys?

775
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: And I was disappointed that he's the quarterbacks coach, to

776
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 1: be honest with you, And I was hoping for an

777
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: additional coach to this. No, I like it. I think

778
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: the O C should be the QB coach. I think

779
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 1: it just makes sense if he's you know, a veteran UM.

780
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: But I did hear one of your guys, Paul Albert

781
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: Brier say, um that he's hearing that Judge is staying

782
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: with the team. Seem at a capacity to be named

783
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: and he intimated he kind of knows what it is,

784
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: but he wouldn't say what it is. It's like typical

785
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: breer because once it is named, well, you know, I

786
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 1: knew that was coming. Okay, then why didn't you report it?

787
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: You know? But he's hearing that. Judge is staying he's

788
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 1: been around out there. I mean, I don't know exactly.

789
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll find out from Evan on Thursday where exactly

790
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: he was, who he was talking to with coaching, But

791
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 1: no sign of Mattie p Another part of the Brier

792
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: thing probably to bring up is the Bill having a

793
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 1: hand in the play calls this year was something he

794
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 1: reported as well. I mean, I we've speculated before the

795
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: season that, like we wouldn't be surprised if Bill's calling plays. Yeah,

796
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure he did. It was just I

797
00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: guess it's just a bummer to hear, like, and that's

798
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,360
Speaker 1: why they had trouble getting the calls and so that

799
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: and the inconsistency, like you can't have too many cooks

800
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: when it comes to play calling, you know, too many

801
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 1: cooks in that kitchen, and like what's that sound like

802
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:01,319
Speaker 1: when when Mattie Pee is trying to get a play

803
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: in and then Bill overrules that and no, no, yeah,

804
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: I think it's people are listening to that. I think

805
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 1: if if that was a regular occurrence, I think that

806
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 1: it's perfectly reasonable for Duce's scenario there. That's how to

807
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 1: be part of the reason why they had trouble sometimes

808
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: with the communication in terms of the caliber, it didn't

809
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 1: matter who was calling plays. None of them worked. Yeah,

810
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: they didn't have success all year. So like, I don't

811
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 1: blame him anymore than I blamed Patricia. Bill called the

812
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,680
Speaker 1: if he called the Marcus Jones screen against the Bills.

813
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 1: He called that will that will come out in the

814
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: in the documentary on NFL Films that you know, the

815
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: ode to Bill. Guess who called the lateral play? Yeah,

816
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 1: Maddie pe called him the lateral play if the lateral

817
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: play at work and we worked on that in practice

818
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: this right, you get journey up there with the film

819
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 1: correct And I do have you know some I do

820
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: have some headlines for you, Ondine on the Mac love Okay, um,

821
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: just just random stuff. I just did a quick Google search.

822
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 1: Was it Mac Jones's fault or the coaches? That was

823
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: my Google search Mac Jones. At least we'll have a

824
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 1: chance to succeed next season, which he didn't have this season. Yea,

825
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: this former NFL head coach has Mac Jones isn't a

826
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: blame for Patriots problems. Ex Patriots players and former NFL

827
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: quarterbacks agreed New England's coaching is failing mac Jones. One

828
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: analysts suggested that Jones should demand a trade if things

829
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,840
Speaker 1: don't change over the offseason. If it ain't, it ain't

830
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: mac Jones's fault, they hate should be going to the coach.

831
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: How much blame does the coaching staff deserve from mac

832
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: Jones's failures? How you double sided it? Yes? Why mac

833
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,320
Speaker 1: Jones is alleged quote unquote attitude problem is a mischaracter

834
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,359
Speaker 1: mischaracterization of the Patriots quarterback. Oh the tides turned now?

835
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 1: How many no no no, no no, no no, no no, no

836
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: no no. Some of these are from August. Yeah, well,

837
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: let me tell you how many failed NFL coaches does

838
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,200
Speaker 1: it take to screw up mac Jones? That was from August.

839
00:39:53,239 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: T k in some honesty, this coaching situation is not

840
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: fair to mac Jones. That was from September. First, I know,

841
00:39:58,760 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 1: but I can go in the middle of the sea,

842
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:03,359
Speaker 1: gonna get just as many headlines, right, and I have those,

843
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,280
Speaker 1: and I have those and they're all related to his bitchiness. Okay,

844
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: none related to his play. Wow, they were all related.

845
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 1: It was all Edelman blasts mac Jones for his behavior.

846
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,880
Speaker 1: Will Fork blasts Mac Jones for his behavior. None about

847
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,200
Speaker 1: so and so blast Mac Jones for thrown the interception

848
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,319
Speaker 1: against the Ravens, none of that. And I looked, Believe me,

849
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 1: I looked. But there's there's just a little cross reference

850
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:33,359
Speaker 1: off of one Google search. Okay, all right, conced? So no,

851
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: because I know what I heard, But you know what

852
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't blame Fred because I would do

853
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: the same thing. Well, I I like I heard people

854
00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: criticizing Mac Jones. I just I just did in the

855
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: media right now. I just told that what it was.

856
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:50,319
Speaker 1: I'm not just talking to criticize his behavior, not his play. No,

857
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:52,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of people to play was blamed

858
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: on the coach. I heard a lot of Is Mac

859
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: the guy? He's probably not the guy? You know, Patriots

860
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,960
Speaker 1: have decisions to make, you know. Oh yeah, Mason uh

861
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: Feller with Jim Murray, those the two that right, that's

862
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: one show. That's it. Adam Jones, Adam Jones. I can't

863
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: count him because he's always but you know, Adam Jones

864
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 1: actually thinks that Mac Jones. I don't can't see. I

865
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: don't even care what any of those guys think because

866
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: they're not really reported. They not here. They you know,

867
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:24,880
Speaker 1: they don't go to the games. Yeah, I gave you

868
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 1: a cross cross reference of local guys in national pundits. Yeah,

869
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: some of that stuff was from like the Athletic National Um.

870
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 1: There was the coaching question was Mike martz Um. I

871
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 1: think we all saw like the Dani Rolovski and Kurt

872
00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: Warner stuff. I mean that was embarrassing. I mean I'd

873
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,479
Speaker 1: like to see somebody saying that Mac is the guy,

874
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 1: you know, like I don't, right, is the Guylski will

875
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: tell you that. I just think it till the cows

876
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,319
Speaker 1: come home. Yeah, he has, he has said that. I

877
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:55,920
Speaker 1: think I just think it's of a fair way to

878
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,360
Speaker 1: analyze this year series. I can't get past the coaching

879
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: staff and what that whole setup was. But even even now, locally,

880
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: it's the coaching staff ruined to Mac Jones. Now, I'm

881
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: not sure he's gonna be able to recover. Oh he

882
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: can't recover from I learned enough about Mac this year.

883
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: I think he'll be in a much better situ. Andy

884
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Hart thinks that they broke Mac Jones. That's what I said.

885
00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,839
Speaker 1: It's not because he can't play, it's because they broke him.

886
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: And I don't think he'll be able to be fixed. Right,

887
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,319
Speaker 1: that's the new thing. And I'm telling you I've used

888
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: this line to Michael Lot already. I'll have my popcorn

889
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: ready watching it this year, waiting to see what the

890
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: excuse is this year, and I will predict that it

891
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: will be. You got to get him some weapons. I

892
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: mean you can't. You can't put them out there. I

893
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: mean Two's got Tyree Hill and Jalen Waddle and you know,

894
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: and Josh Allen has Steph Diggs and you can't just

895
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: put him out there. That'll be it, I'll guarantee you.

896
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 1: But what if they don't give him weapons this year?

897
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 1: What if Myers leaves and what if you know, what

898
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 1: if they don't replenish and he's as bad as he

899
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 1: was this year that he can't play. Oh, they don't

900
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: make the playoffs, he's okay, he goes back to year

901
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,800
Speaker 1: one and then he can't play. Yeah, well, I because

902
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: other guys have had less. But is it a fair

903
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: like you know, he's not Mahomes and he's not gonna

904
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: like raise the level of but can like, as Bill says,

905
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: can he be a quarterback in this league? Yes, he

906
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: can be a quarterback in this league? Can he be

907
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: a good one? Yeah? Can he raise the level of

908
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: those around him? And if he can? If you're saying no,

909
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 1: he can't do that, that's not that's not his I'm

910
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,000
Speaker 1: just saying, what's a fair evaluation of the guy. I'm

911
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 1: just I'm posing the question. I'm posing the watching his

912
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: play and determining whether or not you think he played

913
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: well well regardless of personnel. Yeah, but like they can

914
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: have a can all right? So let me let me

915
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: rephrase that. Can they have a bad record this year

916
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,800
Speaker 1: and you're saying he can play? I doubt it. I

917
00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: doubt it. Yeah. I mean I just think like right

918
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: now we're like, is mac Jones maybe hopefully the seventh

919
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the AFC? Like that's the ceiling? Then

920
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,680
Speaker 1: let me let me let me how how good of

921
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,520
Speaker 1: weapons do the Patriots need with Mac Jones in order

922
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: to have a good record in order to be a

923
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: playoff contender. I would say they need at least one

924
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,879
Speaker 1: really good weapon added to them. What if they don't

925
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: give him that, then he's not good enough. I mean

926
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes has a tight end. Yeah, I mean I

927
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,080
Speaker 1: think we would then be flirting though on then getting

928
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: going to ever be as good as Patrick. But like

929
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,239
Speaker 1: I know're hoping for that, I don't. I don't need

930
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 1: him to be as good as Patrick Mahomes. I need

931
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: him to make other guys better, right, But that's a

932
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,399
Speaker 1: quarterback's job. But I do think there's a ceiling with Mac.

933
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 1: I think I think any objective observer has to admit

934
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: that he's not going to elevate a team like a

935
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,600
Speaker 1: Burrow Alan and Mahomes can do. I agree. Okay, that's

936
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: where I not being the case. You know, can can

937
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: a quarterback like him win in the league? And what

938
00:44:57,760 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: do you need to give him in order to do that?

939
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Francisco's roster I'd say, okay, well, then if you don't

940
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: do that, then are you able to fairly evaluate there's

941
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: no other team in the league that has that either.

942
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: I know I'm saying I have I have stats on

943
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 1: that too, but I don't think you want me to

944
00:45:12,840 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: go in. Is that a fair evaluate Like, so unless

945
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 1: you have the stack roster, you're saying that mac Jones

946
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,520
Speaker 1: can't be good in this league. Great, well, he could

947
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 1: play quarter I agree with Bill, he could play quarterback

948
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 1: in the league. Yeah, there are guys that are work

949
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: anything of substance. No, well, especially with how the But

950
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: that's how I feel it, right, That's not how my

951
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,839
Speaker 1: colleagues feel, I know. But that's the thing is like

952
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 1: what will be you know, what's a fair platform to

953
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 1: evaluate him on? I don't know. I don't think of

954
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: the Patriots, that's the team that he plays quarterback for.

955
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: Just like justin fields. At some point, I know he

956
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:52,279
Speaker 1: doesn't have any weapons. I know Cole Commet is the

957
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: best thing he has. Darnell Mooney, Right, at some point,

958
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: you gotta win some games, ye Like, if you're going

959
00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 1: to be good, you have to lift those around you.

960
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 1: I think he did a lot of things fields, I

961
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 1: think he did a lot of things well last year.

962
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: He had an incredible rushing season. But they don't win.

963
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: At some point, you got to find a way to

964
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 1: lift those around you. And I think that's why some

965
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 1: people think there's a chance that they will take Bryce

966
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,320
Speaker 1: Young or whoever in the with the first pick, the Patriots, No,

967
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:24,439
Speaker 1: the Bears, oh, the Bears. Like I mean, you could

968
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 1: make an argument that he has nothing around. He has

969
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:30,439
Speaker 1: a lot less around than mac Jones does. Ye, it's

970
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:33,799
Speaker 1: tough up there too, because there's no Jamison Williams or

971
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:36,320
Speaker 1: like one of those Jamar Chase top ten right, just

972
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 1: give him all right, So I'm and I'm just asking.

973
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:45,960
Speaker 1: Was twenty twenty two a fair year season to evaluate

974
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,440
Speaker 1: mac Jones? I would say, there's definitely things you I

975
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 1: learned about mac Jones this year. I do think that

976
00:46:51,160 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: there are elements that are fair that you know, regardless

977
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: of the situation. Yes, but I again I think that

978
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: the situation he was put in overshadows it, and in

979
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: fairness to him, I don't need to say he's absolutely

980
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: not the guy right now. But what I learned about

981
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: mac Jones this year didn't make me think any more

982
00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: than what I thought in twenty twenty one that he

983
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: was going to be anything better than maybe the seventh

984
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 1: quarter best quarterback in the AFC. I wouldn't really have

985
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: a whole lot to add to what Mike just said.

986
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:21,360
Speaker 1: I think you learned some stuff I put I'm like

987
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: everybody else. I put the lion's share of the blame

988
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: on the coaching. Yeah, I put the lion's share of

989
00:47:25,760 --> 00:47:29,640
Speaker 1: the blame on Bill for structuring it this way. But

990
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: what I did learn about mac as Mike kind of

991
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 1: just alluded. I didn't like. I don't like the way

992
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,800
Speaker 1: he handled any of it, right, Yeah, I was sometimes

993
00:47:37,880 --> 00:47:41,399
Speaker 1: thinking about two driving in this morning of Bill now

994
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 1: hiring the OC, not explicitly saying I made a mistake,

995
00:47:45,719 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: but I think everybody that has followed his team's action

996
00:47:48,760 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 1: was the season. I feel like this is the first

997
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 1: time you've really had You've got a serious strike on

998
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: him now, Like and I'm not saying I want to

999
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,719
Speaker 1: get rid of Bill Belichick, but I'm just talking to

1000
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: the point of, if they don't give him a weapon

1001
00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: this year, or they don't do something to elevate the

1002
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: offense personnel wise, are we still on that track of

1003
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,919
Speaker 1: like all right, Bill, like you know, like you're still

1004
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: kind of doing things your own way. Like, So it

1005
00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: would if the roster was the exact same last year

1006
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: and they started out in spring with Bill O'Brien, how

1007
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,319
Speaker 1: much better would they be? In your opinion? Probably a

1008
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,120
Speaker 1: couple of games, a couple games, but I don't think

1009
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: anything more than that. I think they probably would have

1010
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, they they might they might have gotten Miami

1011
00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: first week, you know, a little better offensive performance. There

1012
00:48:35,360 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: a couple of games where I felt like the offense

1013
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:38,719
Speaker 1: brought nothing to the table in the whole game. And

1014
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: it's hard to say, oh, well, easily they would have

1015
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: won this game with that offense. But I think it's

1016
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: a totally different team the defense. You know, how many

1017
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 1: turnovers did the defense give them that they didn't really

1018
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 1: do anything with. So I mean, I think they would

1019
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: have gotten another game or two. I don't think that

1020
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 1: they would have been a make noise in the playoffs

1021
00:48:53,640 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: type team just yet, but it would have been better

1022
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: saying they could be a ten and seven team. Yeah,

1023
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that that's crazy. You know,

1024
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,239
Speaker 1: that would have absolutely no idea. I really don't know.

1025
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't disagree with anything you said. I don't.

1026
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,320
Speaker 1: I just don't. I just don't know how much it

1027
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 1: would have changed. I don't know how much it would

1028
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,640
Speaker 1: have changed the record. I think their offense would have

1029
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,400
Speaker 1: been better. They didn't have a coordinator last year. They didn't,

1030
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,799
Speaker 1: but now they have a respected one, right, And I'm

1031
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 1: saying if they did, how much better would they have been?

1032
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: But if you're saying, I don't know about the record

1033
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 1: because I don't know how everything else changes, yeah, well

1034
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:32,680
Speaker 1: all that stuff we read about and Karen and Andrew's

1035
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: article wouldn't have happened all the discord, But I don't know.

1036
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: I don't know how the rest of the game's unfold,

1037
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,480
Speaker 1: Like you can't just like plug it. He would have

1038
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,279
Speaker 1: been good for fourteen more points a game, and that

1039
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,320
Speaker 1: would have been able to win X, Y and z

1040
00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: more games. Like the game's all team. I know, I

1041
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: know that's trying to quantify what an offense but full team,

1042
00:49:53,200 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: but I think that they know, like the Cincinnati dude

1043
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,840
Speaker 1: would with the Bengals did in the second half of

1044
00:49:57,880 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: that game if it wasn't twenty two to enough that

1045
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:03,440
Speaker 1: half other teams play differently too, in different scenarios, you know,

1046
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: maybe they ratchet it up, you know, like for example,

1047
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,360
Speaker 1: that that Bills game where they kind of cruise, Like

1048
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: if the Patriots were a threat, the Bills would have

1049
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,279
Speaker 1: played that game differently, right, you know, yeah, and maybe

1050
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: it was worse, you know, like you don't know, And

1051
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: the same thing i'd say with like the Jets, maybe

1052
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: you don't need the Marcus Jones kickoff for you know,

1053
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,680
Speaker 1: part return at the end to win that game. Like

1054
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 1: I can say, you know pretty confidently that the offense

1055
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,080
Speaker 1: would have been better, Yeah, because they didn't have a quintet.

1056
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,879
Speaker 1: You can't be worse than that. You can't. And that's

1057
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: where I do give Mac Jones some leeway, like you can't.

1058
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,600
Speaker 1: I'm not completely heartless. Yeah, but I also look back

1059
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:44,840
Speaker 1: and I know no one really does this and no

1060
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:47,800
Speaker 1: one agrees, but I look back to the last part

1061
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,760
Speaker 1: of the twenty one season with Josh McDaniels, the Almighty

1062
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels. They didn't play well and he didn't play well. Yeah, yeah,

1063
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 1: have those numbers? Two? All right? Uh? Eight five five

1064
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 1: past five hundred is a ticket hot line web radio

1065
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: at pagris dot com is the email address. Um, I

1066
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 1: gotta get going in about ten minutes, but Deuce and

1067
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 1: Paul will uh uh the show again. I got some

1068
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 1: very important big guy meetings. Uh, Patti's an agawam, what's up?

1069
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:24,760
Speaker 1: What's up? Patty? Going on? Though? Hey? Okay, Hey, first

1070
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: thing's first all, I got a little bit of a

1071
00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 1: bone to pick with you. Yeah, I know line, I

1072
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: know Biggie that that's point of his line. But um,

1073
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit younger than you are. I'm forty six, correct,

1074
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,360
Speaker 1: so you're you're just a little bit older than me.

1075
00:51:41,719 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: Let's go go with that. Let's go buy centennial babies.

1076
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 1: All right. So I have a kid, Evan date, so

1077
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:52,480
Speaker 1: you could definitely be Evans father. That's number one. Um,

1078
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:59,160
Speaker 1: But just just going on AFC Championship game. One thing

1079
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:03,280
Speaker 1: I did not like being was, aside from the uh

1080
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: the fifteen yard personal foul penalty, I mean that was

1081
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 1: pretty agregious. Mahomes was like out in the stands buying

1082
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: a hot dog when one because he threw himself there, right,

1083
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: But it just seemed like, um like Casey and I

1084
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:20,840
Speaker 1: know they were the home team was getting the majority

1085
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 1: of the home you know, majority the flags. You know

1086
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: you sound distracted, He's going on. He sounds distraught. Yeah, okay, Patty,

1087
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 1: you know drunk today. It's not your fault. What are

1088
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:41,480
Speaker 1: you doing? Um, just just trying to fix the machine. Okay,

1089
00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: all right, well get back to fixing the machine. He

1090
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:47,560
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like he's really done. I just felt like

1091
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 1: it sounded like he's doing something else while, you know,

1092
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: and I demand attention. Yeah, I mean, you know, if

1093
00:52:55,560 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: you're calling this show, focus on the show, then you know,

1094
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:04,080
Speaker 1: go shine shoes when you're done. Oh uh, Noah's in Toronto.

1095
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 1: What's up? Noah? What do you know? Big fan of

1096
00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: the show? Thank you? I just wanted to ask, I

1097
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:14,759
Speaker 1: guess a two part questions. What do you think match

1098
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 1: You'don's trade value is? And if he could get like

1099
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: a late first or an early second for him? Um?

1100
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: Why are we trading match the Patriots would do? But um,

1101
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: would you consider it? I would absolutely consider it. I

1102
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: don't think you would get a first round pick for

1103
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:30,759
Speaker 1: But why are we trade? Why are we talking about

1104
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,719
Speaker 1: trading match Udon? Noah? I guess from my perspective, I

1105
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: don't think they're that close to being a contender, and

1106
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: I think he doesn't really hit their windows, so I

1107
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: think kind of get a chance to So so when

1108
00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: you're thinking by the tent, it's gonna take too long

1109
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: to get good and he won't be around anyway, so

1110
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 1: you might as well leverage him now, four or five

1111
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,759
Speaker 1: year deal. Yeah, I feel like he's kind of one

1112
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 1: of the few players on the team where he could

1113
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,920
Speaker 1: get significant drafts value for kind of above it. So

1114
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 1: the Patriots are are in the market here, you're saying

1115
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: that they're they're they're buyers, right, they're selling, They're sellers,

1116
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: they're sellers. Yeah. Yeah, I just don't think they're really

1117
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: close to being contents. Okay, all right, Yeah, it's interesting. Noah,

1118
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: I don't think, Um, I don't think the Patriots will

1119
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,919
Speaker 1: be interested in looking to deal him. I think he's

1120
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: one of their handful of players on defense that they

1121
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: would build around. But the whole second half thing with him,

1122
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: I think it's it's two years now, it happened. Um.

1123
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: You know, the first nine games he had eleven and

1124
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 1: a half sacks, thirty five tackles, ten for lost, nineteen

1125
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: quarterback hits. The last eight games four sacks, twenty five tackles,

1126
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: four tackles for loss, and only nine quarterback hits. So

1127
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:57,319
Speaker 1: the the like those stats just statistically two years in

1128
00:54:57,320 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 1: a row drop precipitously. Now, you could make an argument

1129
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: that they asked him to do different things. Um, I

1130
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: think a lot of sacks in that period. I think

1131
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:07,359
Speaker 1: Ouch did pick up a lot of sacks, but you know,

1132
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: some of this is like pressure related stuff, you know,

1133
00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,759
Speaker 1: tackles for lost quarterback hits. Yeah, so I'm not I'm not.

1134
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: I mean, personally, I'm not overly concerned about Like I

1135
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: thought he was better down the stretch this year. I

1136
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: think he was better. This absence kind of fed into

1137
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: that too a little bit. I think just for next year,

1138
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 1: I think you're a couple of pieces away on defense.

1139
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 1: But I think that they have a pretty good core

1140
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: and and I have pretty good confidence just generally in

1141
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,839
Speaker 1: the coaching side on the defensive side of the ball,

1142
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,479
Speaker 1: especially cornerback, where I feel like they've done a good job,

1143
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 1: you know, developing guys. I think that they need more

1144
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,799
Speaker 1: talent at cornerback. I'd love to add one more guy

1145
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 1: in the box in some variety that's an impact player.

1146
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: But I think with Judon and Uche and Barmore, you've

1147
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 1: got three pretty good pieces to you know, at least

1148
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: get after the passer a little bit going into next

1149
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: year and build off what they did. I don't think

1150
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 1: that they are I'm not looking at San Francisco or anything,

1151
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: but I think that they have a pretty good core

1152
00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: right now. And I've just I'd love to see Barmore

1153
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,200
Speaker 1: next year, just you know, really go off and be

1154
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 1: that player. You see guys that are making impact. I mean,

1155
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 1: look at all of basically all of Philadelphiastfenstill those guys

1156
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: are absolutely terrorists, but you know, just the impact. And

1157
00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 1: he's not Chris Jones, but you just see if you

1158
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 1: have one of those guys who's a mismatch up and

1159
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: down the line that you can move around and get

1160
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,000
Speaker 1: after the quarterback, they're they're huge, they can make a

1161
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 1: huge impact. Williams and Fellam, what's up? William? Hey? Good? Hey,

1162
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: how are you going? Fall excellent? Just just want to

1163
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:34,879
Speaker 1: say this, um, it's just a mess, gentleman. Just how

1164
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,360
Speaker 1: all this you know getting? I mean we all seeing

1165
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,439
Speaker 1: a lot of things that what's going to happen. Maybe

1166
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: we didn't know how to what the outcoming is going

1167
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 1: to be with the Patriots, but uh oh god, man,

1168
00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 1: I just gotta tell y'all this. I think. Do you

1169
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: think Bill will move on away from Jakobe Meyers, Damian Harris, uh,

1170
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:56,919
Speaker 1: Kendrick Boyne. You know people that was like I with Mann,

1171
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,360
Speaker 1: you know, believing that because you know Bill kind of

1172
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: a little petty, and he might hold it against them

1173
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,799
Speaker 1: and might want to get rid of it. I mean

1174
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: what you think. I don't know, Yeah, I mean so

1175
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: you're saying, you know, because of speaking out. Um, I'm

1176
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: hoping they keep Myers. I don't think Myers and Harris

1177
00:57:12,920 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 1: will have anything to do with yeah, pettiness. I think

1178
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: Harris goes anyway. The free agents and you know, you

1179
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:23,320
Speaker 1: get to free agency and yeah, losing guys. We talked

1180
00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 1: about that, would there be retributions for the guys? That's

1181
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: that spoken that William. Yeah, yeah, it felt to me

1182
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: too like one of the I think I think you know,

1183
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:37,480
Speaker 1: and we said Bill, but no, no, no, that was

1184
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: somebody else. My guess. I think, you know, given that

1185
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: this stuff is happened, I think Bill needs to go

1186
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 1: to all his veterans one on one and and talk,

1187
00:57:49,400 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, and and say listen, we tried something, it

1188
00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 1: didn't work. I'm taking the blame. We're moving forward, and

1189
00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: I think he needs to do that with these guys.

1190
00:57:57,120 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: Do you think he will? I don't know. I heard

1191
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: that he he does do that. I don't think there's

1192
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: any chance of that, Yeah, I don't. I think back

1193
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: to like the fourth and two play and that's different.

1194
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: That's that's I mean, he addressed the team and basically said,

1195
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 1: don't let anybody will tell you I don't have confidence.

1196
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, but you know, just the fact that

1197
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 1: you did this, that's different. That's different. I think thanks William.

1198
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: No accountability, it's the same. No, I think I think

1199
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,560
Speaker 1: he will it's might. Yeah, I think it's some form

1200
00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: or fashion. He's gonna let people know that. Yeah, last

1201
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 1: year was was on me and we're gonna move forward.

1202
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,640
Speaker 1: I can't argue that he won't do that. I don't

1203
00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,240
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I'm just saying kind of

1204
00:58:36,280 --> 00:58:37,920
Speaker 1: hasn't really done that in the past. I would just

1205
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 1: say too to Kendrick Boorne. I mean, he's still is

1206
00:58:39,680 --> 00:58:41,880
Speaker 1: under contract for next year. I just wouldn't be in

1207
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: a hurry to get rid of any guy who's under

1208
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 1: contract and as a receiver and can play in the league.

1209
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 1: I would It would be more does Billy Billy O want?

1210
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: What does Billio want to do with him? How does

1211
00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 1: he see Born fitting in? And if he didn't see

1212
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: a spot but for the ancillary off the field stuff,

1213
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: I would not what if bill goes into this season

1214
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,800
Speaker 1: or this offseason and says those decisions on offense are

1215
00:59:02,800 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: gonna be Bill O'Brien's on whether or not to keep Yea,

1216
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 1: I'd be Born. Nah, I'd be stunned. That feels like

1217
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 1: you're trying to slip out of That's not me that's

1218
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,920
Speaker 1: gonna cut you. It's gonna be him. Well, not because

1219
00:59:13,960 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: of that, just like this is his offense. Now, if

1220
00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:19,040
Speaker 1: he wants to keep Born, he keeps him despite what

1221
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:21,720
Speaker 1: I say, I would start. I want I'm with mat. Yeah,

1222
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: like maybe Belichick wants to get rid of Born, but

1223
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,360
Speaker 1: if Bill O'Brien wants to keep him, he stays, yeah,

1224
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: now you need two guys better than Born. But I

1225
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: would keep Born. Yeah, yep, I agree. I just wonder,

1226
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 1: I don't you know, I mean, it's all optics and

1227
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 1: how I mean. I don't want to say he's an

1228
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,640
Speaker 1: uncharted territory. He's coached the team forever, he's been through

1229
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 1: ups and downs before. But I just I do I

1230
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:45,160
Speaker 1: wonder how much of that is gonna be made to

1231
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: make amends with the team, How much of it is

1232
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:49,160
Speaker 1: going to be made to make amends with mac Jones.

1233
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,480
Speaker 1: Not just like, hey, I'm sorry that I could say signings,

1234
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, do they over extend themselves a

1235
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: little bit for Jacoby Myers because Mac loves him. I

1236
00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:00,360
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, And I also wonder, you know,

1237
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 1: do you go when you say, look, Mac, we're not

1238
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,320
Speaker 1: gonna be able to resign Jacobe, um, but we're gonna

1239
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:08,840
Speaker 1: take this money and we're gonna get you know, a

1240
01:00:08,880 --> 01:00:11,600
Speaker 1: player who is moves the needle as far as a

1241
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: you know, a real legit guy. And then I think

1242
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: Mac will be like, Hey, I love Jacoby, but I

1243
01:00:15,960 --> 01:00:18,560
Speaker 1: understand the finances of it. And if we're gonna pull

1244
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:20,800
Speaker 1: some resources and really try to get a guy, then

1245
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, how do you not get the conversation

1246
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,880
Speaker 1: with Mac Jones that I could see happening? Because I

1247
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:28,720
Speaker 1: think Mac Jones is the one that, Yeah, you need

1248
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:32,680
Speaker 1: to give him a little bit of it needs to

1249
01:00:32,720 --> 01:00:35,640
Speaker 1: be repaired. If your quarterback's not on board, it trickles down.

1250
01:00:36,360 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: He needs to set couldn't agree more. And I think

1251
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:40,360
Speaker 1: that was another part of the reason why I think

1252
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:43,480
Speaker 1: he bears more responsibility than most give him. Yeah, because

1253
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,479
Speaker 1: he refused to accept it from the start. Uh Sill

1254
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:49,040
Speaker 1: in Seattle writes and thank you for being honest about

1255
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: what we have at the quarterback position. I've been sick

1256
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 1: to my stomach hearing this fan base so delusional about

1257
01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:57,200
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Speaker 1: Even with that guy shouldn't have went last year. No,

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl snub. All right, we're gonna take a break.

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Speaker 1: are they not? They are? But I'm saying that as

1463
01:12:36,320 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: someone whose mattress came from a box at Costco and

1464
01:12:38,720 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 1: I just pulled it out, and well, you're right, I

1465
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: mean I think, no, I think if you don't weigh

1466
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,880
Speaker 1: a lot that the mattress. The mattress doesn't matter that much.

1467
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 1: It's only when you're heavy, you know. Is it a

1468
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,720
Speaker 1: temper pedic. It's a temper pedic. He sweet, What kind

1469
01:12:53,720 --> 01:12:57,120
Speaker 1: of bed is it, Paul? It's a temper pedic, right, probably? Yeah?

1470
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 1: Does it go up and down to They have like

1471
01:12:58,560 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 1: controls on it and stuff, old old person adjustable bed. No,

1472
01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:05,760
Speaker 1: but he can change the TV channels with his butt

1473
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:13,839
Speaker 1: cheeks so he didn't have to move his arms. Yeah, yespan,

1474
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:23,439
Speaker 1: oh Jos song. That's another great moment from it comes

1475
01:13:23,439 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: back to Jaws in your well timed. That's a pretty

1476
01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 1: good fart impression. Two of himself. I'm pretty two good ones.

1477
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:33,479
Speaker 1: Pretty pretty proud of myself on the espan. That's right, folks,

1478
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,280
Speaker 1: peeping the deuce ride again here for the last hour.

1479
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:40,200
Speaker 1: Let's get to uh yeah, you know what's unfortunate. Yeah,

1480
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:42,800
Speaker 1: we got to ride together for the last hour. And

1481
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,519
Speaker 1: you think that they referee it was a penalty, but

1482
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: that he shouldn't have called it. And I think it

1483
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 1: was a penalty, but he probably shouldn't have called it.

1484
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 1: That stinks. I know, you could have had a nice,

1485
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,360
Speaker 1: like fifteen minute like PFW wouldn't progress, you know, old days,

1486
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,680
Speaker 1: Um they gotta call it Paul try out. I could

1487
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: try it out. And I've been surprised, um the amount

1488
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 1: of people because I know that most people around here

1489
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:09,439
Speaker 1: were probably rooting for Cincinnati. I was so I was

1490
01:14:09,479 --> 01:14:12,120
Speaker 1: surprised with the amount of people that have been like, no,

1491
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: like you gotta call it. It was a penal, was

1492
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: a clear Yeah, I know by the letter of the law,

1493
01:14:16,160 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: it was a penalty. It was a clear penalty. There

1494
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,879
Speaker 1: was no like gray area. He was out of bounds

1495
01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: when he got contacted. But I do think there's a

1496
01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: gray area in that the time of the game, the

1497
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 1: caliber of the contact, the level of the actual contact

1498
01:14:32,240 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: to me, would have given them an out. And I

1499
01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 1: don't think there would have been a human cry. Now

1500
01:14:36,600 --> 01:14:39,120
Speaker 1: in Kansas City, they would have been, of course whining,

1501
01:14:39,160 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 1: but everybody whines. Do you think it was like the

1502
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,000
Speaker 1: hand on the shoulder, because it seems like they tripped

1503
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,840
Speaker 1: like they kind of kit legs and that's why they

1504
01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: fell like that. I love But I think he took

1505
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:53,479
Speaker 1: a die and that's why he went shooting all the

1506
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: way to the bench, because he like propelled himself forward

1507
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: and then Osaire was hurt and I just felt bad.

1508
01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 1: Was like ad injury to insult in that play. And

1509
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 1: I got six months or like dark rehab after doing

1510
01:15:06,360 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 1: that play, and everybody was sad. You know. They kept

1511
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 1: showing him on the bench of how said he was

1512
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 1: and yeah, I think like Hill came to his defense

1513
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 1: afterwards he feel badly. Well, how about the other guy

1514
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 1: that was ripping Cratt? Like what else can he do?

1515
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,160
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean, you're running full speed. I just

1516
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 1: think it's point it's unrealistic to expect him saying, well,

1517
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:30,960
Speaker 1: as I'm running over, I think he's going out careful

1518
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:34,480
Speaker 1: and don't touch it. If he goes out of bounds,

1519
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: I'm probably going too fast to stop, so I need

1520
01:15:37,400 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 1: to stop now. It's this all happening in like one second, right,

1521
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,840
Speaker 1: It's like a split second decision. With the Super Bowl

1522
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 1: on the line, I could let him go, and then

1523
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: all of a sudden he goes like eight more yards

1524
01:15:46,920 --> 01:15:48,680
Speaker 1: down the sideline and makes it like a fifty two

1525
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 1: yard field goal instead. And it was third down, right, Yeah,

1526
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:54,680
Speaker 1: well he got well, but ime, I'm just like it

1527
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:56,680
Speaker 1: was third and four. He had the first down by

1528
01:15:56,680 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 1: the time he got hit, but there was just that

1529
01:15:58,520 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 1: increased like a third in the fourth quarter of an

1530
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,200
Speaker 1: AFC championship, that you know, huge moment. I mean like

1531
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:09,439
Speaker 1: if if they tackled him in bounds, Um, the game's

1532
01:16:09,479 --> 01:16:13,559
Speaker 1: gonna end. So that that's like that, That's how close

1533
01:16:13,560 --> 01:16:16,559
Speaker 1: it was. I just think it's it's easy to sit

1534
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:18,240
Speaker 1: there and look and say, well, yeah, just feed on

1535
01:16:18,280 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 1: the white. That's a penalty, like no interpretation, no nothing,

1536
01:16:22,920 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 1: whereas the whole game is interpretive, the whole like the

1537
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:33,519
Speaker 1: whole element of officiating. One armbar by a Bengals lineman

1538
01:16:33,680 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 1: is holding and one by a Chiefs lineman is not.

1539
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 1: Just like like every play there was a ridiculous pass

1540
01:16:40,240 --> 01:16:45,320
Speaker 1: interference call on Um on the I think, Apple, you

1541
01:16:45,479 --> 01:16:48,960
Speaker 1: love that guy? No, I just like he's always listen.

1542
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 1: He's an average player. I don't want to hear you

1543
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,559
Speaker 1: talking smack or his mom. You know, like I don't

1544
01:16:57,560 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 1: know the top over the phones. We got a shot

1545
01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: down in Baltimore, hanging on he shot. What's going on? Hey,

1546
01:17:05,080 --> 01:17:10,040
Speaker 1: what's up? What's up? Guys? How are you? Um? Well,

1547
01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:12,719
Speaker 1: I started, I guess I started the games on a weekend.

1548
01:17:12,840 --> 01:17:15,680
Speaker 1: I mean it was I feel like it was that

1549
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:18,320
Speaker 1: was a penalty, but I feel like it was like

1550
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 1: like it was like a little shub And I think

1551
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: if that was like Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson, then

1552
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,679
Speaker 1: they probably wouldn't have called that play. Josh Allen definitely

1553
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,599
Speaker 1: wouldn't have gotten it wouldn't have been called. Cam Newton

1554
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:32,880
Speaker 1: absolutely would not have been called for Cam Newton. The

1555
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:37,920
Speaker 1: bigger quarterbacks, they didn't get those calls. But I mean,

1556
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:40,840
Speaker 1: I feel like the Bangers they had, they had the game,

1557
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:44,160
Speaker 1: they had the game. But you know, I feel like

1558
01:17:44,160 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: when you get when you get three, when you get

1559
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:49,680
Speaker 1: a secondary damn chance, you know, like the odds, you know,

1560
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:52,280
Speaker 1: the ards gonna be in your favor. So I shouldn't

1561
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: congratulate the two. But I'm going I'm going for the Eagles,

1562
01:17:55,479 --> 01:17:59,880
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna move on to the Patriots and now, um,

1563
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,919
Speaker 1: I really I really don't know what to get excited

1564
01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 1: about for like for the off season and for the

1565
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,680
Speaker 1: season in general, because I don't really know like what

1566
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 1: to expect or like where can they go, Like is

1567
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:14,679
Speaker 1: it going to be is it going to be better

1568
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:17,200
Speaker 1: than this ship which will be like land Shire or

1569
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,720
Speaker 1: why i'd call an exit like I don't really know

1570
01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 1: like what to expect, like what changes, Like I don't

1571
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:25,479
Speaker 1: really know what to look forward to, just because of

1572
01:18:25,560 --> 01:18:28,120
Speaker 1: like the way that the coaching and every like the

1573
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:31,800
Speaker 1: way that the team is assembled. So it's just kind

1574
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: of frustrating, you know, but it is exciting because I

1575
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,760
Speaker 1: do want to see what's going to happen. But it's

1576
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: just frustrating because you know it's something might happen, but

1577
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:43,360
Speaker 1: it might be to something like we don't need, or

1578
01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,439
Speaker 1: it's something that a status back even further, like a

1579
01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,320
Speaker 1: caller that a caller said something about you don't being traded.

1580
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,479
Speaker 1: I mean I kind of agree with that, just because

1581
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,519
Speaker 1: like you don't do good play it. But like if

1582
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 1: he pushed me us to the next level, like if

1583
01:18:57,439 --> 01:19:00,639
Speaker 1: he pushing us, you know further, If not, then why

1584
01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:04,080
Speaker 1: can't we you know, it's a fair point. And that's

1585
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,160
Speaker 1: I think that was Noah's point. He didn't feel like

1586
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,120
Speaker 1: the team would be in position to win a title

1587
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 1: while Judeon is still a big part of the defense,

1588
01:19:10,760 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: so why not see if he can get something for him.

1589
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 1: If you think you can make a good trade, I'm

1590
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 1: not opposed to it. Yeah, thanks for shod well and

1591
01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:20,920
Speaker 1: I would just say too, like, I mean we're you know, oviously,

1592
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,479
Speaker 1: I mean started yet you got eleven. Yeah, I'd rather build.

1593
01:19:23,720 --> 01:19:27,120
Speaker 1: I'd rather build on the team than strip away from it.

1594
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,839
Speaker 1: I think if you know what happens if you resigned

1595
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 1: to Jacoby Myers, but you also were able to acquire

1596
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:37,479
Speaker 1: you know, DeAndre Hopkins or T Higgins, Like, I'm just

1597
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:39,840
Speaker 1: a guy, Like, yeah, a number one guy. So now

1598
01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,040
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's T Higgins, it's Jacoby Myers,

1599
01:19:43,040 --> 01:19:46,160
Speaker 1: it's Kendrick Bourne, it's DeVante Parker with a second year

1600
01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:49,040
Speaker 1: Taekwon Thornton and an offense who might be better, and

1601
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:53,679
Speaker 1: maybe you can get with the first round. You get

1602
01:19:54,479 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: Scronsky from Northwestern, who, by all accounts is I can't

1603
01:19:58,280 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 1: miss left tackle prospect, right yep. So I know he's

1604
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 1: supposed to go in the top ten, but no, strange

1605
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 1: things happen. You never know. You plug him in and

1606
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 1: he's a starter from day one that bolsters the offensive line.

1607
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,080
Speaker 1: Cole Strange is a lot better in year two. He's

1608
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: got an actual offensive linker. Right, and then you're well coordinated,

1609
01:20:17,840 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 1: and maybe I am wrong on mac Jones, and maybe

1610
01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 1: you increase the talent level around him just a little bit.

1611
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,360
Speaker 1: You don't have to have a stacked San Francisco roster

1612
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he looks like a pro bowler. Yeah,

1613
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:31,559
Speaker 1: that's that's I mean, it's not crazy and also like

1614
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 1: you know, crazy barmore Marcus Jones. I mean to see

1615
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:36,280
Speaker 1: what Marcus Jones is going to do next year, how

1616
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:38,559
Speaker 1: they're going to use them, you know, for me, those

1617
01:20:38,600 --> 01:20:41,280
Speaker 1: are those are exciting pieces too. I mean I wish

1618
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,519
Speaker 1: I could say, and I mean I know I'm preaching

1619
01:20:43,520 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 1: to the choir on Thornton. I wish I could say

1620
01:20:45,840 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about what he might be able to

1621
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: do in year two. I mean, I haven't given up

1622
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,919
Speaker 1: on him, but I don't have that kind of excitement

1623
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 1: that I have for Marcus Jones, where I know he's

1624
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,400
Speaker 1: a player in this league. I know he's going to

1625
01:20:56,439 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 1: contribute to this team. I'm not sure on Thornton yet,

1626
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if he's a boss he's going to

1627
01:21:00,280 --> 01:21:02,719
Speaker 1: be able to contribute it all. Uh is that speed

1628
01:21:02,760 --> 01:21:05,320
Speaker 1: going to translate? How's Billy Oh gonna use them? You know,

1629
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:07,120
Speaker 1: I mean think that's the Maybe he'll look better with

1630
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 1: Billy maybe you know, that's what's over quarterback. You don't know,

1631
01:21:10,520 --> 01:21:12,960
Speaker 1: you know, the problems with route running. Maybe a good

1632
01:21:13,000 --> 01:21:18,000
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, well coordinated system who knows what to improve everything.

1633
01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that was part of two what

1634
01:21:19,439 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: we there were so much complaints about, You're just not

1635
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: putting guys in position to be successful. You're not putting

1636
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 1: guys to play to their strengths, except for maybe Parker,

1637
01:21:26,040 --> 01:21:28,599
Speaker 1: which I feel like they got it, Like, yeah, that's

1638
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:32,160
Speaker 1: what they did, what they figured plants and go routes

1639
01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:34,559
Speaker 1: down the sideline. I mean, you know a couple of

1640
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,200
Speaker 1: overs and unders and whatnot, but yeah, they use what

1641
01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,559
Speaker 1: he is, I mean, and he's a piece, you know,

1642
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,600
Speaker 1: I don't think he's he's you know, I like, I

1643
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,439
Speaker 1: know a lot of people talking about t Higgins and

1644
01:21:42,479 --> 01:21:45,080
Speaker 1: I mean I see, you know, like a number one

1645
01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,240
Speaker 1: caliber receiver. But you know, there's no question that could

1646
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:50,240
Speaker 1: be upgraded. But do I think they're going to do

1647
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,360
Speaker 1: it this year? I think they'll probably handle them. But

1648
01:21:52,360 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 1: but you know, with with all that stuff too, you know,

1649
01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,720
Speaker 1: and do I think all of it's going to happen. No,

1650
01:21:58,240 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: But like in that league, more than a lot of

1651
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: the other leagues. You can do it in a blink. Yeah,

1652
01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,920
Speaker 1: you can go from me to really good in a blink.

1653
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 1: Like Philadelphia went from ment to really good. They were

1654
01:22:10,960 --> 01:22:13,880
Speaker 1: a nine and eight playoff team last year and they're

1655
01:22:13,920 --> 01:22:16,200
Speaker 1: really good now. And are they the best team in football?

1656
01:22:16,240 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they were in the they're the

1657
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:20,680
Speaker 1: top five, right. It's so funny you say that. I

1658
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: rememberhen we were down in Philly watching presee the training camp.

1659
01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,080
Speaker 1: I was I didn't any have any beat on that

1660
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:27,800
Speaker 1: being a good team. It just felt like they were

1661
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,599
Speaker 1: one of the people in the middle trying to figure

1662
01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:32,200
Speaker 1: out if Jalen Hurts was even gonna work for them.

1663
01:22:32,760 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: Uh it did? It did happen? So and I think

1664
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people would have looked at Jalen Hurts

1665
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:40,080
Speaker 1: and said, no, like, he's not going to be what

1666
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:42,679
Speaker 1: they think he can be. He can't he can't throw

1667
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 1: at that level. Well you throw at that level, sure,

1668
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:48,320
Speaker 1: did you know? And you combine that with his dynamic

1669
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:52,560
Speaker 1: rushing ability a thousand yard rusher with how many touchdowns?

1670
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:57,320
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like that That's why I wouldn't go Now,

1671
01:22:57,400 --> 01:22:59,960
Speaker 1: if the off season unfolds and they're not able to

1672
01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,600
Speaker 1: get any of these kinds of pieces, and then the

1673
01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,559
Speaker 1: draft comes and you know, yeah, it's more twenty twenty

1674
01:23:05,560 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: two than twenty twenty one, like it's well, even if

1675
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,840
Speaker 1: it's but even if it's a good draft, now you're young.

1676
01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,400
Speaker 1: You know, they've been an old team the last several years.

1677
01:23:14,760 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 1: If if now you're going off of twenty one, twenty two,

1678
01:23:18,160 --> 01:23:21,639
Speaker 1: twenty three, that's the nucleus of your team. Now, maybe

1679
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: you could convince me, you know, take a guy like

1680
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 1: Jude On. Yeah, see if you can add you know,

1681
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:28,040
Speaker 1: like you didn't get anything in free agency, we're going

1682
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,680
Speaker 1: into the draft. Maybe you can get a second round pick.

1683
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:33,160
Speaker 1: I think it's probably less than that because I think

1684
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,880
Speaker 1: he's he's on the other side of thirty, right, I

1685
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,080
Speaker 1: think he's like right at thirty. Maybe. Yeah, so I

1686
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,320
Speaker 1: think he's a good player, but I don't think he's

1687
01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:43,559
Speaker 1: thought of as as as a great player around the league.

1688
01:23:44,680 --> 01:23:46,519
Speaker 1: Maybe you could get something for him. I don't know.

1689
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,599
Speaker 1: I almost just one him this because he makes it fun,

1690
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:50,479
Speaker 1: like he's one of the only guys with some real

1691
01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: personal right right now. I wouldn't even entertain the thought

1692
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: of trading him, not because I think he's a great player.

1693
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: But because I think he is. He's part of what

1694
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:00,280
Speaker 1: makes you, you know, makes you good on deef events.

1695
01:24:00,720 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 1: Hold on to that cores, hoping that what you saw

1696
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: in the last half of the season with Uch is

1697
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: real and see if he can build her on that.

1698
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna grab Eldrid, Bubba, but remind me to get

1699
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,920
Speaker 1: back because I have a question for you some mus

1700
01:24:13,920 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: think about can do it after after Eldrid, Hey, Eldred,

1701
01:24:16,320 --> 01:24:23,120
Speaker 1: how you doing? Man? There? It is? Hey, Mikey doing man? Sorry?

1702
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:26,640
Speaker 1: Throw you off there. I'm split, man, I'm split, and

1703
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:30,040
Speaker 1: I can't believe I'm really split. We'll just h Paul.

1704
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 1: I agree with you. If some weapons, you know, they

1705
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 1: might say, okay, he needs a weapon if he because

1706
01:24:37,040 --> 01:24:40,040
Speaker 1: he didn't have them, whatever. But if you can't get Higgins,

1707
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 1: what I'm split on is the fIF fourteenth pick. Were

1708
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 1: this Quentin Johnson ACU the wide receiver, Yeah, the number

1709
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:53,120
Speaker 1: one corner, the Van Whistlespoon out of Illinois, a good

1710
01:24:53,160 --> 01:24:56,240
Speaker 1: man corner that could tackle and we need that too,

1711
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: you know, and that tackle you're getting stuck and third

1712
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: round I don't care. I want the first round. Offensive alignement.

1713
01:25:02,479 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: You know you need some you need some playmakers. Yeah,

1714
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 1: and that's what I'm looking at, you know. But I

1715
01:25:09,240 --> 01:25:12,679
Speaker 1: would mind having that gay from t TU. But according

1716
01:25:12,680 --> 01:25:16,560
Speaker 1: to the draft, he's going He's going thirteen the Texas

1717
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: to Houston and de Land is going to Washington on

1718
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: twenty one. So we missed out on him. Maybe. Like

1719
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: I said, we're in fourteen. I don't like that tight

1720
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 1: end pick, you know, because you need somebody on the

1721
01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:29,800
Speaker 1: outside during the seam in the middle, seed somebody on

1722
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:32,320
Speaker 1: the outside the open up the middle. Like I've been

1723
01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:36,679
Speaker 1: saying for about fourteen years. You know that Eldred loves

1724
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: his wide receivers, right, Oh yeah, But Higgins, I don't

1725
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,280
Speaker 1: think he's gonna leave Cincinnati because a boy got hurt.

1726
01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: And you see what that offense or receiver corps looked

1727
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:51,200
Speaker 1: like when you can just come front on Chase and Higgins.

1728
01:25:51,560 --> 01:25:53,280
Speaker 1: So I don't think they'll let him get out of them.

1729
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 1: They're gonna think gone out a way to pay him

1730
01:25:55,000 --> 01:25:57,760
Speaker 1: or get my friendly deal and then pay him next year.

1731
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,640
Speaker 1: That what I think. That's what I would do. I

1732
01:25:59,720 --> 01:26:02,200
Speaker 1: want I would let thet go go nowhere. I would

1733
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,320
Speaker 1: I would do my best to keep that that. Like

1734
01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,599
Speaker 1: I said, the integrity of that talent base in place

1735
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,160
Speaker 1: for a couple of years and take a run at it,

1736
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,400
Speaker 1: take some good, good stabs at winning it, and then

1737
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,960
Speaker 1: go from there. Absolutely. Okay, one more question and let

1738
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:20,240
Speaker 1: y'all go. Yeah, I know if I keep assuming they acting,

1739
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 1: But do you really think Billy O'Brien on draft day

1740
01:26:24,720 --> 01:26:27,040
Speaker 1: coutell Bill? Now, Bill, we don't want that guy out

1741
01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 1: of Wisconstable, whatever, but we need this guy right here

1742
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: that I know can play. You think that you might

1743
01:26:32,320 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 1: have a chance to say that and do that. I mean,

1744
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: I would hope so, I mean, I don't know about

1745
01:26:37,760 --> 01:26:39,680
Speaker 1: within the moment, but I would hope he's involved in

1746
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: the draft process, and you know they're all on the

1747
01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:43,960
Speaker 1: same page of what they want, what kind of I mean,

1748
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:45,760
Speaker 1: I think we're all on the same page of what

1749
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: we want, what we think that they need. But um,

1750
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:50,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I think they showed last year

1751
01:26:50,160 --> 01:26:51,720
Speaker 1: with Thornton. I mean, I didn't love the pick, but

1752
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: at least it shows some understanding and trying to get

1753
01:26:54,920 --> 01:26:57,960
Speaker 1: more explosive, I guess, But just a couple of points

1754
01:26:58,000 --> 01:27:00,400
Speaker 1: you thanks, I would appreciate it. Um Witherspoon two is

1755
01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,519
Speaker 1: I was I'm starting I'm starting dipping the draft little

1756
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 1: earlier this year, Paul Um. But that Witherspoon kid, I

1757
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: like him. He's he's down at the Senior Bowl this week,

1758
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 1: and I think there's not really a huge consensus right

1759
01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:12,760
Speaker 1: now on the cornerback class, and he has one that.

1760
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:15,599
Speaker 1: I mean, I would listen to PFF's breakdown. Those guys

1761
01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,000
Speaker 1: had him as their top one. Um other teams, like

1762
01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,120
Speaker 1: Elder said in the twenties. But I do think it's

1763
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: conversation right now with the tackles, the three like Roderick Jones,

1764
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson and Scornsky, those three guys, and then what's

1765
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: gonna side. Yeah, look, Crest Fallens more of an offer

1766
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:36,679
Speaker 1: um shaking of the head uh. And then the receivers.

1767
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,680
Speaker 1: I mean you've heard za Zay Jones, but that these

1768
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: are kind of the three positions you're looking on in

1769
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: the first round and just in my limited kind of

1770
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:44,920
Speaker 1: as I've dipped my toe in, especially with those tackles

1771
01:27:44,920 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 1: you brought up, Scronsky. Um, you know there are some

1772
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:51,200
Speaker 1: guys Paris Johnson, Paris Johnson say those three Broderick Jones,

1773
01:27:51,960 --> 01:27:54,760
Speaker 1: probably Georgia guy. Right, Brodick Jones, big guy. Um, I

1774
01:27:54,760 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 1: mean Paris Johnson, I think six eight Broughdick Jones is

1775
01:27:57,200 --> 01:28:00,640
Speaker 1: six six, but you know, just prototypical tough. Um. You

1776
01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 1: gotta love with Georgia guy being in the sec um.

1777
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, I can't imagine we drafted the Northwestern guy.

1778
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:07,559
Speaker 1: Though the MLB might have to come back and give

1779
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,280
Speaker 1: us the scoop on on the wildcatch. I mean, you

1780
01:28:10,280 --> 01:28:12,559
Speaker 1: just look at the last one was a home run.

1781
01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 1: You know. Rashaan Slater in the first round for the

1782
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:17,680
Speaker 1: Chargers was was really good as a rookie and then

1783
01:28:17,680 --> 01:28:19,519
Speaker 1: he unfortunately got hurt missed a lot of the year

1784
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:24,519
Speaker 1: this year. But I just look at there's a chance

1785
01:28:24,800 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 1: that they can plug some of these holes quickly, and

1786
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:32,840
Speaker 1: I don't dismiss that. And then you know, then it's

1787
01:28:32,840 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 1: going to be up to Mac Jones to make a leap. Yeah,

1788
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,360
Speaker 1: give them ball, make it happen. Let's uh, let's head

1789
01:28:38,360 --> 01:28:40,720
Speaker 1: out to Bolton, say how to Mark? Hey? Mark, what's

1790
01:28:40,720 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: going on? Hey guys? Um, I don't want to get

1791
01:28:45,280 --> 01:28:49,840
Speaker 1: into the micro of the draft and free agency just yet.

1792
01:28:49,920 --> 01:28:54,080
Speaker 1: I'm good, No, we're not. We're not there yet either,

1793
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: But I am really more excited than most on the

1794
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien of signing. And here's why I really want

1795
01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 1: to see the Patriots offense be the Patriots offense that

1796
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: I know again, and that is incorporate aspects of two

1797
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:15,040
Speaker 1: thousand and eleven with the two tight ends of Gronk

1798
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: and number you know, eighty one. Unfortunately they don't have those. No. Yeah,

1799
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 1: I know that he's not that the hunter. Henry is

1800
01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:27,679
Speaker 1: not Grounk, but he is a good a good middle

1801
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,880
Speaker 1: of the field tight end and he's got to get

1802
01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:32,720
Speaker 1: something out of John Smith. So they just got to

1803
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: cut him and and just move on from their loss.

1804
01:29:35,400 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy has athletic says if he had

1805
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: touchdowns in yards the arya before they got him. I

1806
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 1: don't like how the guy looks, but I think that

1807
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,360
Speaker 1: O'Brien has gonna has a bunch better chance to get

1808
01:29:45,439 --> 01:29:49,880
Speaker 1: something out of those two to start off with. And

1809
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: that's just to start. We haven't had a real Patriot

1810
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 1: slot receiver in three years. I loved Kobe Myers. He

1811
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,559
Speaker 1: was my pick of the draft of the of the

1812
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: like what you consider like a real slot receiver, Like

1813
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:08,800
Speaker 1: what is like a slot why? Because he doesn't get

1814
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: open quick enough really, and he's not explosive to dominate

1815
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,640
Speaker 1: the middle of the field. Well, then they never had

1816
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:17,439
Speaker 1: a good slot receiver then, because they never had an

1817
01:30:17,439 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 1: explosive one who's dominated the middle of the field. Because

1818
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: the guy they've never had one. If that's the definition

1819
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:27,519
Speaker 1: of a slot receiver, they don't have that kind of player.

1820
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:31,439
Speaker 1: They don't have Brandon Cooks, they don't have Christian Kirk. Right,

1821
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:37,120
Speaker 1: that's an explosive slot receiver, not Wes Welker, not Julian

1822
01:30:37,240 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: edel They gave up the second round pick for him.

1823
01:30:39,560 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 1: He was he was uncoverable, right, So is Myers five

1824
01:30:43,120 --> 01:30:45,960
Speaker 1: yards of pattern? Right? Myers does the same thing. He

1825
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,120
Speaker 1: catches everything that's thrown to him that he moves the

1826
01:30:48,200 --> 01:30:51,839
Speaker 1: change consistently. They just don't have anything else. That's the difference.

1827
01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,240
Speaker 1: They have nothing else with him that they can rely on.

1828
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:59,080
Speaker 1: It's just him eight hundred yards year after year because

1829
01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:03,599
Speaker 1: they have nothing else. Like, this whole slot receiver thing

1830
01:31:03,720 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: is really driving me batty too, I'll tell you that

1831
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: right now. Because we haven't done anything on the spot.

1832
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:13,920
Speaker 1: And if you don't improve your talent base around the slot,

1833
01:31:14,439 --> 01:31:16,680
Speaker 1: it will stay that way. You can let Myers go

1834
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,800
Speaker 1: I have Nope, I'm not married to Myers. As much

1835
01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:22,559
Speaker 1: as I love the guy, I think the kids are terrific.

1836
01:31:22,760 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I love the player, but I'm but I'm I don't

1837
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,880
Speaker 1: want to give him fifty million either, So I'm fine

1838
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 1: letting him go. But you're gonna bring in someone else

1839
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:33,280
Speaker 1: to replace him. You're gonna bring in Zay Flowers, and

1840
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have the same thing because you don't have

1841
01:31:35,960 --> 01:31:39,720
Speaker 1: anybody to occupy. You don't have Randy Moss to help

1842
01:31:39,760 --> 01:31:43,360
Speaker 1: Wes Welker, you don't have Rob Gronkowski to help Julian Edelman.

1843
01:31:43,479 --> 01:31:46,559
Speaker 1: You don't have those guys. No, No, you don't have

1844
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:48,719
Speaker 1: Moss and you don't have Gronkowski. But there was years

1845
01:31:48,720 --> 01:31:54,520
Speaker 1: that the pages still survive with pedestrian outside receivers and

1846
01:31:54,520 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: and and just had all three of those things cooking

1847
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:01,080
Speaker 1: at once. I mean, even Edelman down in twenty eighteen,

1848
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,519
Speaker 1: two sixteen, we didn't have anything great on the outside. Yes,

1849
01:32:04,640 --> 01:32:07,040
Speaker 1: we had Gronk, and that was the worst offense that

1850
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:11,880
Speaker 1: you had in any of your Super Bowls because you

1851
01:32:11,920 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 1: didn't have because you didn't have the healthy guys around him,

1852
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 1: and you also wouldn't have won the Super Bowl without Gronk,

1853
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: of course not. I mean Edelman was the MVP. He

1854
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: was great in that game, right, yes, I mean, if

1855
01:32:24,120 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: I recall, he had like eleven four, one hundred and

1856
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:31,800
Speaker 1: forty someond how many points they score three until Gronk

1857
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:35,680
Speaker 1: stepped into the game in the fourth quarter. Right. Absolutely,

1858
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: they don't have that. They don't have that guy to

1859
01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:42,799
Speaker 1: stretch the field, to occupy the defense. They have Jacoby

1860
01:32:42,840 --> 01:32:45,920
Speaker 1: Myers catching passes, getting first downs, but having a hard

1861
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,000
Speaker 1: time in the red zone, having a hard time consistently

1862
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: maintaining drives. It's not because of Kobe Myers. It's because

1863
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: they don't have anything else. And I also think what

1864
01:32:57,040 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: made those slot receivers great. They were, they were really good.

1865
01:33:00,680 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 1: But what made them great players Troy Brown, Wes Welker,

1866
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 1: Danny Ammondla Julian Edelman was Tom Brady. It wasn't as

1867
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 1: good even though Welker caught a million passes in two

1868
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,519
Speaker 1: thousand and eight when Matt Castle was the quarterback for them,

1869
01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 1: they didn't win as many games. They weren't as successful

1870
01:33:22,400 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: because Brady's just special, and I think to run your

1871
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:28,960
Speaker 1: team around that in Mark, I'm not I know it

1872
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 1: probably sounds like I'm like picking up. I'm not. This

1873
01:33:31,240 --> 01:33:34,479
Speaker 1: isn't directed Yeah yeah, no, no, no, like I don't.

1874
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,240
Speaker 1: This is like I just think that everybody thinks the

1875
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,960
Speaker 1: secret sauce is Bill O'Brien's back. We're gonna go two

1876
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: tight ends in a slot receiver, and no one's taken

1877
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:48,920
Speaker 1: into consideration just how much less talented the pieces are

1878
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:52,640
Speaker 1: that are here now are than they were then, including

1879
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: most importantly the quarterback. If I had Tom Brady in

1880
01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: his prime, I'd be absolutely looking for, you know, a

1881
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: duplication of that kind of an attack, because when I've

1882
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:09,360
Speaker 1: watched Tom Brady in Tampa Bay this year, it's all

1883
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:12,160
Speaker 1: these little dump offs and then deep shots and it

1884
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,400
Speaker 1: hasn't worked. I would go back to what Brady does best,

1885
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:20,040
Speaker 1: like Chris Godwin before the ACL. I'll take that in

1886
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: the slot when he had explosiveness, and he's gonna, you know,

1887
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:26,920
Speaker 1: be a thousand yard receiver in the slot with someone

1888
01:34:27,000 --> 01:34:30,439
Speaker 1: to occupy some Yeah, you know some of the coverage

1889
01:34:30,479 --> 01:34:32,960
Speaker 1: over the top, and I don't I'm not sure they

1890
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,800
Speaker 1: have that. Well yeah, but when when we Yeah, but

1891
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: I would I agree with you. I think we're missing

1892
01:34:38,439 --> 01:34:41,200
Speaker 1: pieces all over the place, and I didn't want Thornton

1893
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:44,320
Speaker 1: last year. I was wrong. I'm like drugs. Last week

1894
01:34:44,360 --> 01:34:47,040
Speaker 1: with my surgery, I went out, I called Perkins Pickens.

1895
01:34:51,000 --> 01:34:53,320
Speaker 1: I'm coming down from that now, thank god. But anyway,

1896
01:34:53,600 --> 01:34:55,760
Speaker 1: you know, I'm sorry screwed that up. It was. It

1897
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:57,760
Speaker 1: was Pickens that I wanted. But it doesn't mean that

1898
01:34:57,800 --> 01:35:02,040
Speaker 1: Thornton can't be explosive as a player. And I'm hoping

1899
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:03,880
Speaker 1: for that. But also that's what you have to hope for.

1900
01:35:03,960 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: Absolutely mark him. But but not only that, we haven't

1901
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:11,040
Speaker 1: had a third down back mndre Steven since my guy.

1902
01:35:11,080 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm the one who said he's the most complete back

1903
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,720
Speaker 1: we've had since Curtis Martin, and that was after his

1904
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 1: first you know, the end of the I would add

1905
01:35:17,880 --> 01:35:19,599
Speaker 1: that to my list of things that you had then

1906
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,640
Speaker 1: that you don't have right and we gotta and we

1907
01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:25,960
Speaker 1: gotta get it. But these things are gettable. You know, uh,

1908
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:29,880
Speaker 1: you know, a Darryl Sprowles type player, you know, you know,

1909
01:35:30,040 --> 01:35:33,839
Speaker 1: dou Spawn in a case states, weren't these crazy waterbuck players.

1910
01:35:34,120 --> 01:35:35,439
Speaker 1: And I was the only thing when I was trying

1911
01:35:35,439 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: to get to as well, I was encouraged about what's

1912
01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:40,040
Speaker 1: going coming out of the Shrine game is that the

1913
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:44,120
Speaker 1: Patriots supposed Lee chose to look at the scatbacks and

1914
01:35:44,240 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: the East chose to look at the power backs. So

1915
01:35:46,840 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 1: I think they're getting on that wavelength of we need

1916
01:35:50,120 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 1: a scat back, we need to we need a slot,

1917
01:35:53,160 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 1: we need an explode, we need somebody who can, who can,

1918
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:58,439
Speaker 1: who can break free. And I think that O'Brien believes

1919
01:35:58,479 --> 01:36:00,639
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones the guy that can or that drink,

1920
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:02,960
Speaker 1: and that's you know, and that's where I'm at. That's

1921
01:36:03,000 --> 01:36:05,479
Speaker 1: from my hope. Is that all right? And I guess

1922
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 1: I'm more up on Mac Jones than most. Yeah, well

1923
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 1: that's that's uh, that's good. I think Mark gives us

1924
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,559
Speaker 1: a lot to uh to chew on. Thanks, Thanks, Mark,

1925
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Would you be okay, duce with um time Montgomery,

1926
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be a posted to. I mean he seemed okay.

1927
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,040
Speaker 1: I mean as a as a stop gap, I don't

1928
01:36:23,040 --> 01:36:26,360
Speaker 1: think that. I I mean, I'm getting into this call now.

1929
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 1: I kind of let you guys. I'd let him, you know,

1930
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:30,120
Speaker 1: I let you get get after it. People were asking

1931
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:31,679
Speaker 1: me the same thing because we talked about it last weekend.

1932
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,240
Speaker 1: I think I mean my response was like, I think

1933
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,320
Speaker 1: that sometimes when we talk about slot receivers, it gets

1934
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,679
Speaker 1: put into all we really need is a day three

1935
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:42,519
Speaker 1: white guy who runs a really fast three cone and

1936
01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:45,080
Speaker 1: we'll be fine. That's what drives me crazy. And that's great.

1937
01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:47,960
Speaker 1: You can have one of those guys. And I love Mark,

1938
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:50,759
Speaker 1: you know, and God bless him for actually doing some homework.

1939
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:53,559
Speaker 1: Deuce Vaughan from Kansas State, sign me up in the

1940
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:55,840
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth round. Yeah, I'll absolutely take a guy

1941
01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,800
Speaker 1: like that. Now. You could tell me, because I haven't

1942
01:36:57,800 --> 01:36:59,559
Speaker 1: looked at all. You could tell me. You could go

1943
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:01,519
Speaker 1: on the Draft Network site and he's supposed to go

1944
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 1: in the second round, and I'd be like, oh, yeah, well, yeah,

1945
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:07,280
Speaker 1: that's I don't don't blame me. I just identify talent,

1946
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:10,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like, but yeah, I understand

1947
01:37:10,320 --> 01:37:12,800
Speaker 1: what Mark is saying. I just think that people overlook

1948
01:37:14,000 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: all of those pieces. They overlooked the Brady part of it. Sure,

1949
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,439
Speaker 1: And and I the complimentary point I would say to

1950
01:37:20,520 --> 01:37:22,759
Speaker 1: that too, was like, by the time you had Julian

1951
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:26,080
Speaker 1: Edelman converting third and fourteens in the Super Bowl, like

1952
01:37:26,120 --> 01:37:28,960
Speaker 1: they had been playing together for five years. Like, not

1953
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:32,400
Speaker 1: only is Tom Brady great, but like they were completely

1954
01:37:32,439 --> 01:37:34,639
Speaker 1: like symmetry. As far as playing the game, I mean,

1955
01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,360
Speaker 1: he just you can't what did Brady do with that

1956
01:37:36,439 --> 01:37:41,640
Speaker 1: Super Bowl against Seattle? Fourteen throws to Shane Vereen? You

1957
01:37:41,640 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 1: want to keep doing that? You want to keep backing off,

1958
01:37:43,400 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: you want to keep backing off, you want to keep

1959
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,639
Speaker 1: backing off. You're just gonna take this there. I'm gonna

1960
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:49,080
Speaker 1: take the easy money. Then when you take that away,

1961
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,639
Speaker 1: we're gonna make the place that we need. We're gonna

1962
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,400
Speaker 1: go downfield. We're gonna get a one on one matchup

1963
01:37:52,600 --> 01:37:55,479
Speaker 1: with Gronk on the outside on whatever the linebacker was.

1964
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:58,879
Speaker 1: I forget so kJ Wright, Yeah, one of those linebackers.

1965
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take my one on one out wide. I

1966
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,640
Speaker 1: haven't seen the evidence that Mac Jones could. Here's what

1967
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:06,600
Speaker 1: my larger question would be. Okay, and I don't have

1968
01:38:06,640 --> 01:38:08,920
Speaker 1: the answer to this. And if Evan was here, I'm

1969
01:38:08,920 --> 01:38:11,080
Speaker 1: sure he would have a little bit more of a

1970
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:15,679
Speaker 1: background on a lot of the other systems. Okay, who

1971
01:38:15,680 --> 01:38:18,479
Speaker 1: would you consider to be the better offenses for football

1972
01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:21,120
Speaker 1: right now? And there're no wrong answers here, obviously, sure, Well,

1973
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:26,719
Speaker 1: Kansas City, I mean Kansas City Buffalo, San Francisco when

1974
01:38:26,760 --> 01:38:31,120
Speaker 1: they have a healthy quarterback. Um, Cincinnati, Buffalo is a

1975
01:38:31,160 --> 01:38:33,840
Speaker 1: little unique to me, you know, Philadelphia. I'm just I'm

1976
01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:37,760
Speaker 1: just battling off the most productive offenses. Which one of

1977
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:41,200
Speaker 1: those offenses do you think is predicated on the tiny

1978
01:38:41,200 --> 01:38:44,400
Speaker 1: slot receiver in the third down pass catching bag? Yeah? None?

1979
01:38:44,880 --> 01:38:48,080
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, that's it's about studs. I mean, that's why.

1980
01:38:48,120 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: And as much as people want to say this is

1981
01:38:49,560 --> 01:38:51,400
Speaker 1: what we need, we got to get this guy or

1982
01:38:51,439 --> 01:38:54,240
Speaker 1: this kind of like you just need talented weapons right now.

1983
01:38:54,280 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 1: And the theme that I hit on in the in

1984
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:59,320
Speaker 1: the mail bag, just because someone asked about the slot

1985
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:01,120
Speaker 1: thing and as like I don't want it to get

1986
01:39:01,160 --> 01:39:02,880
Speaker 1: lost in that is that I feel that this offense

1987
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:04,880
Speaker 1: needs quickness, like and that's you know, and I know

1988
01:39:04,880 --> 01:39:06,960
Speaker 1: that that's often a thing with three cone and all that,

1989
01:39:07,240 --> 01:39:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't really care like that it has to be

1990
01:39:08,800 --> 01:39:12,600
Speaker 1: a slot receiver. They just are so slow off the

1991
01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,760
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage as an offense across the board, and

1992
01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,840
Speaker 1: that's just a trait that I want. Now. It can

1993
01:39:17,880 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: just be a why or extra you know Z receiver

1994
01:39:20,280 --> 01:39:22,200
Speaker 1: that's going to be outside and you know, can get

1995
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:24,679
Speaker 1: off the ball and get open quick. That's fine, doesn't

1996
01:39:24,680 --> 01:39:26,599
Speaker 1: have to be a you know, the the day three slot,

1997
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:29,479
Speaker 1: but it just I want quickness. And that's also another point.

1998
01:39:29,640 --> 01:39:32,040
Speaker 1: Was you know they mentioned Mayor the tight end from

1999
01:39:32,040 --> 01:39:34,840
Speaker 1: from Notre Dame. It's like I wouldn't totally ruin that out.

2000
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:37,280
Speaker 1: I wouldn't totally run I just I'm just not if

2001
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,960
Speaker 1: you really think he's anywhere, if you really think though

2002
01:39:40,000 --> 01:39:42,240
Speaker 1: he's that you know, I don't say he's gonna be cronk,

2003
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:44,960
Speaker 1: but if you really believe he's a tight end that

2004
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: can block and that can catch him, will rated tight

2005
01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:50,439
Speaker 1: end in the class? I think so, I haven't. I've

2006
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: seen a lot of it. Just somebody wrote a different

2007
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,519
Speaker 1: thing on him and I and I guess maybe I

2008
01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: was swayed by the email a little bit of just

2009
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,479
Speaker 1: you know, if you think that he's that guy. Though,

2010
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:00,160
Speaker 1: I don't want to get caught up in say you

2011
01:40:00,160 --> 01:40:02,639
Speaker 1: need you just need guys that like you rent down,

2012
01:40:02,960 --> 01:40:05,160
Speaker 1: you've got Vereene, you've got problems that you can go

2013
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:08,519
Speaker 1: to him from Georgia. And I know he's not draft eligible.

2014
01:40:09,960 --> 01:40:15,240
Speaker 1: That would be different from me, like he's dynamic. I mean,

2015
01:40:15,240 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: maybe I don't know. I'm not able to. I'm just

2016
01:40:18,160 --> 01:40:21,360
Speaker 1: saying that theory doesn't even have to be an outside

2017
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: it could That's that's a bad comment for me because

2018
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:24,760
Speaker 1: I didn't do enough. But I think it But it

2019
01:40:24,760 --> 01:40:26,880
Speaker 1: goes to your point Paul is saying that it was

2020
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:28,599
Speaker 1: gronk like you know what I mean, Like it can

2021
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:30,799
Speaker 1: be a tight end too. It doesn't have to be

2022
01:40:31,080 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: this prototypical you know, built in the lab receiver that

2023
01:40:33,680 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 1: you know, you know, if the k matcalf it can

2024
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:37,600
Speaker 1: be a different position. It could even be and then

2025
01:40:37,680 --> 01:40:40,000
Speaker 1: this is a huge stretch, but it could be that's

2026
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:41,920
Speaker 1: that receiving back, you know. I mean, you have to

2027
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:44,920
Speaker 1: be probably Ladanian Tomlinson, but it could be you know,

2028
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:47,840
Speaker 1: like it could be it's you just you can't put

2029
01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:49,880
Speaker 1: it in a box they need. Like I thought Stevenson

2030
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: might have had the chance to be a little bit

2031
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,600
Speaker 1: more than that. Yeah, and I don't think he was.

2032
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 1: I think he was sort of average as a pass catcher. Um.

2033
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,800
Speaker 1: But the other part of it isn't I hear a

2034
01:41:00,840 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of people talking about like, well, when they were

2035
01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:06,400
Speaker 1: great offensively and this is what and they didn't necessarily

2036
01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,160
Speaker 1: have the high powered reason yeah, fifteen years ago, it

2037
01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:14,360
Speaker 1: was like Dion Branch and David Gibbons with Troy Brown

2038
01:41:14,439 --> 01:41:19,160
Speaker 1: running around, you know, and yeah, when you know, you

2039
01:41:19,479 --> 01:41:22,599
Speaker 1: won games twenty to seventeen on a consistent basis because

2040
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:25,719
Speaker 1: your defense was great, your offense never made any mistakes,

2041
01:41:25,800 --> 01:41:27,960
Speaker 1: and when Brady needed to make plays in crunch time,

2042
01:41:28,120 --> 01:41:31,120
Speaker 1: he never failed. It was a secret sauce for oh

2043
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,040
Speaker 1: three and oh four. You know, we had Corey Dylan

2044
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:36,719
Speaker 1: and Old four running for sixteen. Yet the game hasn't

2045
01:41:36,720 --> 01:41:41,240
Speaker 1: played that way anymore. It's not you know, I don't

2046
01:41:41,240 --> 01:41:43,360
Speaker 1: even think the game has played all that similarly to

2047
01:41:43,439 --> 01:41:46,599
Speaker 1: like the eleven team that used the two tight ends

2048
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 1: and that you know, pedal to the metal up tempo

2049
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:52,840
Speaker 1: that Billy O you know, sort of introduced that year.

2050
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,720
Speaker 1: And they were really good. I mean they had they

2051
01:41:55,720 --> 01:41:59,320
Speaker 1: had I mean obviously Gronk and Hernandez were excellent, you know,

2052
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: and they take they still had, they still had Welker,

2053
01:42:02,920 --> 01:42:07,559
Speaker 1: they still had Danny Danny Woodhead as a really good

2054
01:42:07,560 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: pass catching back that year, so they had the elements

2055
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,200
Speaker 1: and play. I don't even like I said, like you

2056
01:42:13,200 --> 01:42:16,160
Speaker 1: watch Kansas City play, is it all predicated on a

2057
01:42:16,200 --> 01:42:19,400
Speaker 1: third down passing back and a slot receiver. They have

2058
01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,840
Speaker 1: those things like they have versatile pieces like Sky Moore

2059
01:42:22,960 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: and Nicole Hardman, and they have a great tight ending

2060
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:30,679
Speaker 1: in Kelsey. But it's not like just this dinkin Duncan.

2061
01:42:30,760 --> 01:42:33,680
Speaker 1: You have to make plays. Cincinnati certainly doesn't play like that.

2062
01:42:33,720 --> 01:42:36,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo certainly doesn't play like that. Philadelphia. It's more about

2063
01:42:37,240 --> 01:42:39,600
Speaker 1: big place to a J. Brown and Tavante Smith and

2064
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: Hurts using his mind to pick the matchup. Did you

2065
01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:45,560
Speaker 1: see some of those clips of what he did in

2066
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:48,719
Speaker 1: the Running Game manipulating Fred Warner the other day? Fred

2067
01:42:48,720 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 1: Warner one of the best linebackers, um you know in

2068
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,920
Speaker 1: the game, and he had them in in a like

2069
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:59,240
Speaker 1: a blender the whole game with his mind. No, no, no,

2070
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 1: I know I am. You know. As much as I

2071
01:43:00,920 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: think he's a good looking guy, he also could he

2072
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:05,439
Speaker 1: also a pretty smart guy. He's a smart guy. He's

2073
01:43:05,479 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: got great eyebrows. Let's let's jump over to John and Ducksbury. Hey, John,

2074
01:43:08,920 --> 01:43:11,840
Speaker 1: sorry for making a whole different That's all right, Paul

2075
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:14,240
Speaker 1: went off, Tom covering on me. I know what are

2076
01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:18,160
Speaker 1: we gonna do? You know? I just I want to

2077
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,040
Speaker 1: talk about the free agents. But uh, I want to

2078
01:43:21,040 --> 01:43:23,800
Speaker 1: make a point quickly on on my home. There was

2079
01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 1: no way he had a high ankle spring. You cannot

2080
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:30,400
Speaker 1: run like that and you cannot backbedal like that. I've

2081
01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 1: sprained my ankles three or four times, both of them,

2082
01:43:33,120 --> 01:43:36,200
Speaker 1: and you can't move, you know, did you ever get

2083
01:43:36,200 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: shot up? No? No, if you can't feel it, you

2084
01:43:40,240 --> 01:43:43,800
Speaker 1: can move. He had a I mean, you can't tell

2085
01:43:43,840 --> 01:43:47,559
Speaker 1: me they're faking this. He couldn't move. He was cobbling

2086
01:43:47,560 --> 01:43:51,360
Speaker 1: around the whole game. Yeah. No, but especially when he

2087
01:43:51,439 --> 01:43:53,120
Speaker 1: ran out of bounds when he gets keep shot it

2088
01:43:53,160 --> 01:43:56,040
Speaker 1: at the end there he was smlying around there flying.

2089
01:43:56,560 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 1: You will run like that with an ankles a high

2090
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:01,160
Speaker 1: ankle sprain. Yeah, I don't. I don't think he was flying.

2091
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:04,120
Speaker 1: And I think he's very much injured and he's built different.

2092
01:44:04,439 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: We'll see what happens during the course of these two weeks.

2093
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:08,720
Speaker 1: We'll probably get some video of him. If he looks

2094
01:44:08,720 --> 01:44:10,479
Speaker 1: like he's moving around a little better, I'll feel better

2095
01:44:10,479 --> 01:44:12,960
Speaker 1: about Kansas City's chances. If he's moving like he did

2096
01:44:12,960 --> 01:44:15,639
Speaker 1: in that game against Cincinnati, I think that defensive line

2097
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,040
Speaker 1: will own him. Yeah. And the other thing is I

2098
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:21,000
Speaker 1: want the point I want to make. They have to

2099
01:44:21,080 --> 01:44:26,240
Speaker 1: sign Jacobe and Jonathan Jones because they're gonna have a

2100
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:30,240
Speaker 1: void with those guys. They've got to get plaint because

2101
01:44:30,479 --> 01:44:34,799
Speaker 1: you can't let guys go just because they're not Randy Moss.

2102
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,880
Speaker 1: Are you know, Daryl Reevas? Yeah, you've got to sign

2103
01:44:38,920 --> 01:44:41,720
Speaker 1: these guys. Yeah, yeah, I get it. John. I think

2104
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 1: it'd be unfortunate if you lost these guys. And it's

2105
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 1: you know, on one hand, I say, like, you can

2106
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:50,599
Speaker 1: resign those guys, well, what were you with them? It's

2107
01:44:50,640 --> 01:44:53,280
Speaker 1: like the Red Sox, the Red Sox big offseason move,

2108
01:44:53,400 --> 01:44:55,920
Speaker 1: Raffy Devers. I love Rafael Devers. I think he's a

2109
01:44:55,960 --> 01:44:59,439
Speaker 1: tremendous young hitter. But I had him last year and

2110
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: finished in place, and now I let everybody else go

2111
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:06,439
Speaker 1: and I resigned him, and I feeling good about this. Why. Yeah,

2112
01:45:06,479 --> 01:45:09,160
Speaker 1: but they need stependary guys, Paul too, you know, yeah,

2113
01:45:09,240 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 1: they need an infusion of talent. We all know that. Yeah, yeah,

2114
01:45:12,439 --> 01:45:14,439
Speaker 1: but you know, I mean, I don't want to hear

2115
01:45:14,720 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 1: Belichick say, well, you know, we get Afford Jacoby Mayers

2116
01:45:18,360 --> 01:45:21,880
Speaker 1: after he paid twenty two million dollars the AGLA and

2117
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:26,920
Speaker 1: he had one seventy game one. No, not enough. Thank John,

2118
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:30,519
Speaker 1: appreciate the call. I could see both those guys walking.

2119
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I get what he's saying. I mean I

2120
01:45:32,120 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: get what John saying too. I especially with Myers, like

2121
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:38,200
Speaker 1: with with Jones, like Jones a little older, You've given

2122
01:45:38,240 --> 01:45:42,080
Speaker 1: him a couple of contracts already. I mean I I

2123
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:43,840
Speaker 1: just feel like, like I think kind of to your

2124
01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:45,760
Speaker 1: point of having to take a little bit of a

2125
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,880
Speaker 1: half step back to take a full step forward. And

2126
01:45:48,160 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: as much as I love Jacoby, I I did as

2127
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,760
Speaker 1: much focus this offseason is considering do you want to

2128
01:45:53,760 --> 01:45:55,920
Speaker 1: extend on when you and dugger, you know, like those

2129
01:45:55,960 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 1: are moves that you know you're looking at next year.

2130
01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: I get with Myers, it's a really hard decision to make.

2131
01:46:01,800 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: And on one hand, you'd say we found this kid.

2132
01:46:03,680 --> 01:46:05,880
Speaker 1: He developed, he was productive every year he was here,

2133
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:09,280
Speaker 1: no matter who was playing with. But at the same time,

2134
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:11,640
Speaker 1: is this is is this gonna make us better? Is

2135
01:46:11,640 --> 01:46:13,240
Speaker 1: this gonna put us over the top? I don't. That's

2136
01:46:13,240 --> 01:46:15,040
Speaker 1: where the debate can kind of be. And then I

2137
01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: think I did I say it on the ear out there?

2138
01:46:16,439 --> 01:46:17,920
Speaker 1: I think I wish Bourne was the free agent, like

2139
01:46:17,920 --> 01:46:20,400
Speaker 1: I wish it could just because if you could, just

2140
01:46:20,479 --> 01:46:22,720
Speaker 1: if I felt like, if you have Myers, Thornton and

2141
01:46:22,920 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: and and uh and what's his face? Parker Parker, Like

2142
01:46:25,479 --> 01:46:28,280
Speaker 1: it's pretty interesting three to start with. You definitely need

2143
01:46:28,640 --> 01:46:30,519
Speaker 1: a stud in that group. But like, I like what

2144
01:46:30,640 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 1: you have to start with there. But but I do think,

2145
01:46:34,560 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, and this is one of those like I

2146
01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: guess I'm guilty of being a fraud because like the

2147
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,680
Speaker 1: whole like Bill O'Brien's gonna fix everything, I'm sort of

2148
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:44,840
Speaker 1: you know, and I loved it, But I do wonder

2149
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: can Billy'll fix Kendrick Bourne? Like can he look at

2150
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,600
Speaker 1: that guy and say I can work with this, Like

2151
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: I can make him a like a two instead of

2152
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,280
Speaker 1: a three or an inconsistent complimentary piece. I can get

2153
01:46:57,280 --> 01:46:59,280
Speaker 1: more out of him than It feels a little bit

2154
01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:01,000
Speaker 1: of a coin flip to me on every guy of

2155
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:03,280
Speaker 1: is he going to be better or worse under Billy? Oh?

2156
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 1: Like I feel like that's a you know, for every

2157
01:47:05,160 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: guy on the roster, maybe they're better or maybe they're

2158
01:47:07,200 --> 01:47:09,920
Speaker 1: not part of what I don't think born like Parker,

2159
01:47:09,960 --> 01:47:12,280
Speaker 1: I think is what he is. Parker will make some plays,

2160
01:47:12,520 --> 01:47:14,920
Speaker 1: there'll be games where he shows up, there'll be games

2161
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,960
Speaker 1: that he misses for injury, and at the end of

2162
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:20,160
Speaker 1: the day, everybody will say he's all right born I

2163
01:47:20,200 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 1: think can. I don't want to move him around. I

2164
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:24,920
Speaker 1: don't think him. I don't think one is special. Like

2165
01:47:24,920 --> 01:47:26,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you're gonna be looking at him as

2166
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:30,519
Speaker 1: an all pro, But I think he could be if

2167
01:47:30,520 --> 01:47:34,640
Speaker 1: he could get consistent presence in the game plan. I

2168
01:47:34,760 --> 01:47:37,240
Speaker 1: think he has the ability to make guys miss after

2169
01:47:37,320 --> 01:47:40,800
Speaker 1: he catches it, make plays. I think he can get downfield.

2170
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:43,600
Speaker 1: I think he can catch short balls. I think he

2171
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,439
Speaker 1: could be a valuable piece in a good offense. If

2172
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,840
Speaker 1: you're asking him to be the guy, the man, then

2173
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:50,479
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna be just like you were last year.

2174
01:47:50,479 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 1: And I have some intrigue with him with a real

2175
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,040
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator who I feel I can position him to

2176
01:47:55,080 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: get him the ball. And on the flip side of

2177
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,800
Speaker 1: that coin, though, I feel like John U. Smith, for

2178
01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:02,040
Speaker 1: the first two years he's been here, everything is scheme

2179
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,439
Speaker 1: to get the ball to him, like it's always it's

2180
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,640
Speaker 1: never just he was the third guy in the progression

2181
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:08,519
Speaker 1: and he was open and Mack hit him right in stride.

2182
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:11,080
Speaker 1: It's right. This was a play that specifically was gonna

2183
01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,040
Speaker 1: get Johnny wan and under route and let him rout

2184
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:17,520
Speaker 1: the sideline. You know, can he produce in the conventional

2185
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:20,120
Speaker 1: offense with this billowbird? You know? With what billow It's

2186
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: a great point, you know, I think it's a great

2187
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:24,240
Speaker 1: point when you have you have an adult in the room,

2188
01:48:24,240 --> 01:48:26,439
Speaker 1: for lack of a better term, can he get more

2189
01:48:26,479 --> 01:48:28,840
Speaker 1: out of some of these pieces than than you were?

2190
01:48:28,920 --> 01:48:31,880
Speaker 1: And I think you're getting another great interesting sample too

2191
01:48:31,960 --> 01:48:33,680
Speaker 1: from some of these free agents that you got or

2192
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:35,760
Speaker 1: you know, all these guys included, and I'd say my

2193
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:37,920
Speaker 1: expectations that Hunter Henry in the red zone will be

2194
01:48:38,320 --> 01:48:40,160
Speaker 1: back to more where he was in twenty twenty one.

2195
01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:43,200
Speaker 1: But what was born and in twenty one he had

2196
01:48:43,240 --> 01:48:46,320
Speaker 1: eight hundred yards? Right? Oh god, I don't know, you know,

2197
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: was Josh McDaniel. So like, I think that's like to me,

2198
01:48:49,160 --> 01:48:52,519
Speaker 1: that's a reasonable base, Like he can be a sixty

2199
01:48:52,640 --> 01:48:55,800
Speaker 1: some odd catch guy for eight hundred plush yards with

2200
01:48:55,800 --> 01:48:58,200
Speaker 1: with a real offensive coordinator. And now that you have

2201
01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,040
Speaker 1: seen a lot of these guys, not only with Josh McDaniels,

2202
01:49:02,040 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 1: who at that point you can certainly say all right, Well,

2203
01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,599
Speaker 1: it's still kind of the run in that old offense,

2204
01:49:06,600 --> 01:49:08,200
Speaker 1: and it might be kind of tough for guys, and

2205
01:49:08,600 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 1: you know, but now you're going to see them with

2206
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:12,839
Speaker 1: not only Josh McDaniels, but with Bill O'Brien, another offensive

2207
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,800
Speaker 1: coordinator who you know, has been more places than Josh McDaniels, has,

2208
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,680
Speaker 1: has a little more exposure to the college game. So

2209
01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:22,840
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna get even more potential for what

2210
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 1: what these guys Kenner can't do. Now you're gonna have

2211
01:49:24,640 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: a whole new sample size. Who do you think you

2212
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: average more per catch? Myers or Born this year? Yeah,

2213
01:49:32,360 --> 01:49:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Born on this one. Yeah, you're right,

2214
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,400
Speaker 1: twelve point four to twelve about the same, right, Like,

2215
01:49:38,479 --> 01:49:40,240
Speaker 1: And I just think that just to get back to

2216
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: the like, what do you think you're exactly as a

2217
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:46,360
Speaker 1: slot receiver? Like, that's a pretty productive slot receiver twelve

2218
01:49:46,439 --> 01:49:49,320
Speaker 1: yards per catch? Like Welker had years where he was

2219
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:54,479
Speaker 1: like in the Nines, And Welker was incredible at moving

2220
01:49:54,520 --> 01:50:01,720
Speaker 1: the chains. Edelman incredible moving the chains. Those guys were money.

2221
01:50:01,800 --> 01:50:03,760
Speaker 1: I think Myers has been money for you. They just

2222
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:06,400
Speaker 1: don't have anything else. Yeah, it's an interesting to beate

2223
01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 1: because that mean I think he wins with his head

2224
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:10,439
Speaker 1: a lot too. And you know it's just it's like,

2225
01:50:10,479 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: as effective as he is, I don't think either one

2226
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:14,960
Speaker 1: of us see him as like a player than anybody.

2227
01:50:15,000 --> 01:50:16,720
Speaker 1: Like I mean maybe on third down, I would say, you, guys,

2228
01:50:16,720 --> 01:50:20,040
Speaker 1: what I would worry about Myers a little bit is

2229
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 1: I don't think athletically he's at the at the high end.

2230
01:50:25,600 --> 01:50:28,760
Speaker 1: So when you get four years into your career, yeah,

2231
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,719
Speaker 1: do you start to you know, like Bill always says,

2232
01:50:31,800 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: you're either getting better or you're getting worse. So at

2233
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:36,400
Speaker 1: some point you get to the point where you start

2234
01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 1: to level off and you go down the other way.

2235
01:50:38,520 --> 01:50:41,120
Speaker 1: And I think, and I always use my age old

2236
01:50:41,240 --> 01:50:46,040
Speaker 1: example for this, Vincent Brisbee. Remember Vincent Brisbee was a solid,

2237
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:50,120
Speaker 1: complimentary receiver who was kind of slow at his best,

2238
01:50:50,600 --> 01:50:54,120
Speaker 1: was he Yeah, it's so funny when he lost a step,

2239
01:50:54,920 --> 01:50:59,040
Speaker 1: he was almost useless because he could no longer separate.

2240
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: He went from catching like eighty balls to like nothing.

2241
01:51:02,800 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 1: It's funny as he had leg leg issues and slowed down,

2242
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Like I worry about like with the guy like Myers

2243
01:51:10,680 --> 01:51:13,960
Speaker 1: takes a lot of punishment those injuries that we read

2244
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,400
Speaker 1: about in that Herald story about his knee. We know

2245
01:51:16,479 --> 01:51:19,080
Speaker 1: we had shoulder problems at one point earlier in the year.

2246
01:51:19,760 --> 01:51:22,479
Speaker 1: Like did those start to take a toll? So? Yeah?

2247
01:51:22,600 --> 01:51:24,280
Speaker 1: Like would I want to give him a hundred million

2248
01:51:24,280 --> 01:51:26,760
Speaker 1: dollars contract? No, I wouldn't. As much as I love

2249
01:51:26,840 --> 01:51:30,599
Speaker 1: him and his father. Um, I think he's a really

2250
01:51:30,640 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 1: great story, but I wouldn't want to pay him like that.

2251
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 1: If he can get that on the open market, I

2252
01:51:35,200 --> 01:51:37,600
Speaker 1: think the Patriots have to say, you know, best of

2253
01:51:37,680 --> 01:51:40,320
Speaker 1: luck to you. You know, we wish you all the

2254
01:51:40,720 --> 01:51:42,280
Speaker 1: all the best. That was one more side point I

2255
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 1: was gonna make. Um, yeah, Mahomes Mahomes super Bowl long halftime,

2256
01:51:46,960 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: long game. Oh yeah, I might have to shoot him

2257
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:52,800
Speaker 1: up twice twice get him ready to a good point. Uh,

2258
01:51:53,120 --> 01:51:55,320
Speaker 1: sorry for going some of the emails here. Let's jump in.

2259
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,280
Speaker 1: Fred's is gonna be mad at me? Um? Joe and

2260
01:51:58,320 --> 01:52:00,479
Speaker 1: Michigan's asking if there's a Cooper cup of available in

2261
01:52:00,479 --> 01:52:03,000
Speaker 1: the draft or free agent. I'm not there yet, Joe.

2262
01:52:03,040 --> 01:52:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if Paul definitely not free I don't

2263
01:52:05,760 --> 01:52:08,680
Speaker 1: know about the draft, but free agency. Jacoby Myers is

2264
01:52:08,920 --> 01:52:11,040
Speaker 1: he's by a lot of accounts. I wouldn't say all

2265
01:52:11,120 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: by a lot of accounts. The best free agent available, Yeah, right, yep, Um,

2266
01:52:16,080 --> 01:52:19,639
Speaker 1: David and Bethlehem. There's a couple of questions here. Um,

2267
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:21,320
Speaker 1: I like this one. The order of importance in the

2268
01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,120
Speaker 1: draft left tackle, cornerback, wide receiver. I mean, I think

2269
01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:28,040
Speaker 1: everybody's on that tackle, cornerback, wide receiver. Yeah. I might

2270
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 1: flip flop the let the last two, but yeah I

2271
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:32,519
Speaker 1: like those three. Yeah, me too, me too. And that's

2272
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: it's just it's tough to see a wide receiver at

2273
01:52:34,479 --> 01:52:36,880
Speaker 1: fourteen unless they you know that. I think that's what

2274
01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:38,800
Speaker 1: I'm kind of coming to. I could maybe see some

2275
01:52:38,840 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: of the cornerbacks, definitely see some of the tackles. Um,

2276
01:52:42,120 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 1: and then we're still waiting on Clem or Wendell or

2277
01:52:44,200 --> 01:52:47,080
Speaker 1: door number three as he says, in terms of the

2278
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:49,640
Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Not sure what's going on there, but

2279
01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, and I saw Phil Perry wrote today like,

2280
01:52:52,240 --> 01:52:55,280
Speaker 1: you know, why is Billy Yates not in that mix? Yeah?

2281
01:52:55,439 --> 01:52:57,000
Speaker 1: Just I think he's the only been there a year,

2282
01:52:57,040 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: maybe that experienced thing perhaps. Um with Bill O'Brien. This

2283
01:53:02,120 --> 01:53:05,080
Speaker 1: is from Matt and Madison with Bill O'Brien coming in.

2284
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,200
Speaker 1: Does the offense have the ability to get together earlier

2285
01:53:07,600 --> 01:53:09,720
Speaker 1: since he's a new coach? Is that part of the protocols?

2286
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,760
Speaker 1: I don't believe. So, No, that's I know it's a

2287
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,680
Speaker 1: head coach heading coach. Um, we can work around that then,

2288
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:18,360
Speaker 1: I now, Paul, this is a good quote from Jamie

2289
01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:21,760
Speaker 1: Um from Connecticut. He was wondering if we saw the

2290
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:24,679
Speaker 1: offensive tackles in both games false starting like Trump Brown?

2291
01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: Did I saw a thing written up about this that

2292
01:53:26,520 --> 01:53:29,679
Speaker 1: like they're saying that it's not that they that they're

2293
01:53:29,720 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 1: okay that these guys jump in the snap, which I

2294
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,120
Speaker 1: noticed with Trump Brown all year. But I saw I

2295
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:36,320
Speaker 1: wish i'd saved it on Twitter. But somebody was like,

2296
01:53:36,520 --> 01:53:38,559
Speaker 1: they're not Actually, no, that's right. They can they can

2297
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: get a little bit of a hop. I don't know

2298
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,840
Speaker 1: what that is. Yeah, that's not a thing that I

2299
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,040
Speaker 1: know of. Um, did you see it during these games?

2300
01:53:45,040 --> 01:53:46,760
Speaker 1: So I didn't know. I didn't like, I didn't like.

2301
01:53:46,760 --> 01:53:48,960
Speaker 1: I told you I didn't see the Philadelphia game, so

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01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:51,000
Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you in that one. I did not

2303
01:53:51,000 --> 01:53:54,200
Speaker 1: notice it during the Chiefs Bengals game at all, and

2304
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:57,920
Speaker 1: that usually stands out to me. I noticed. I noticed

2305
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:01,639
Speaker 1: it badly in the Jacksonville game. The Jacksonville right tackle

2306
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:06,280
Speaker 1: that was driving Bosa crazy that night was constantly jumping

2307
01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 1: the snapcount. I hadn't heard. I shouldn't say that they

2308
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,280
Speaker 1: don't do that. I have not heard that they allow.

2309
01:54:13,479 --> 01:54:15,120
Speaker 1: That makes no sense. I should have pulled that up.

2310
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for bringing it up. I hate and I

2311
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:18,720
Speaker 1: do stuff. No, but does that make sense to you

2312
01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:21,360
Speaker 1: that there's two guys that are allowed to cheat the snap? No?

2313
01:54:21,439 --> 01:54:23,400
Speaker 1: And and my only thought was that maybe it's kind

2314
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,439
Speaker 1: of like the like the thirty second clock where where

2315
01:54:26,560 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 1: the play clock where you know, it's like there's a

2316
01:54:28,240 --> 01:54:30,400
Speaker 1: beat and then all right. But yeah, you know what

2317
01:54:30,439 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 1: I mean. Have you seen on like a fourth down

2318
01:54:33,360 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 1: play fourth and inches the quarterback has a snot? I

2319
01:54:37,200 --> 01:54:39,400
Speaker 1: mean the guard has a snot bubble dripped from his

2320
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 1: nose fall start he moved. Yeah, you know, like, I

2321
01:54:43,720 --> 01:54:47,880
Speaker 1: just can't imagine they call that so tight on those

2322
01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 1: short yardage plays. But yet on third and ten, if

2323
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 1: the tackle gets in his pass block set, you know,

2324
01:54:53,000 --> 01:54:56,240
Speaker 1: a half a second early, it's okay? Does that does

2325
01:54:56,280 --> 01:54:59,800
Speaker 1: that seem that doesn't seem right? Right now. But who

2326
01:54:59,800 --> 01:55:02,440
Speaker 1: knows in this league that the email could have that nailed.

2327
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 1: I got Kella's writing in here and with the subject

2328
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:11,720
Speaker 1: my fiance hates Paul. It doesn't that mind. I don't

2329
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 1: know how he wrote this, though, it's he wrote I

2330
01:55:13,160 --> 01:55:15,440
Speaker 1: got a bone to pick with Paul. I think I

2331
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:19,800
Speaker 1: got a bone. I got a bone, Nor sorry, I

2332
01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,440
Speaker 1: got a bone and Paul. Early Saturday morning, my fiance

2333
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:24,040
Speaker 1: and I were driving up the Sun of Pea Mountain

2334
01:55:24,080 --> 01:55:25,960
Speaker 1: to ski. He was having a great drive listening to

2335
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:29,040
Speaker 1: you guys while she slept. However, Paul must have been

2336
01:55:29,080 --> 01:55:30,960
Speaker 1: in a moon on Thursday because he was yelling a

2337
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: lot on the show. My fiance woke up a few

2338
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 1: times during the shouting fits. It hit the tipping point

2339
01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,800
Speaker 1: when pop off Paul started the flip out about Max

2340
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,400
Speaker 1: critics and Orlowski Kurtmoner wanting to marry Mack. She now

2341
01:55:42,440 --> 01:55:44,320
Speaker 1: hates the show and I'm here defending you guys. Can

2342
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:46,200
Speaker 1: we balance the volume or maybe move Paul a few

2343
01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,240
Speaker 1: feet away from the mid Yeah, you know, just have

2344
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,560
Speaker 1: Fred not say so many stupid things. And I won't

2345
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:53,840
Speaker 1: yell like I mean, you could tell me you think

2346
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:57,440
Speaker 1: Mac is good I think he's okay. Someone else thinks

2347
01:55:57,440 --> 01:56:00,600
Speaker 1: he stinks that. That's different. But when you trying to

2348
01:56:00,640 --> 01:56:05,000
Speaker 1: claim that there is not an overwhelming sense of a

2349
01:56:05,040 --> 01:56:07,880
Speaker 1: free pass that has been given to the quarterback, you're

2350
01:56:07,880 --> 01:56:11,240
Speaker 1: not paying attention. I can't. I can't do that, Like

2351
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,440
Speaker 1: I can't just say that, oh yeah, yeah, you're right. No,

2352
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,320
Speaker 1: we're going strong, We're going right to the ante palm.

2353
01:56:16,440 --> 01:56:19,200
Speaker 1: I'm not cutting it early. Fred does. A matter of fact,

2354
01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:21,200
Speaker 1: we should give him a little extra what else away

2355
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:24,280
Speaker 1: Franklin and Baltimore this a little bit on that line. Now,

2356
01:56:24,280 --> 01:56:26,320
Speaker 1: My point is the higher of Bob does not changed

2357
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,960
Speaker 1: the fact that I believe Bill Belichick doesn't believe in

2358
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:31,200
Speaker 1: Mac as a QB who can elevate the talent around

2359
01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: him and thus operate within his team building philosophy in

2360
01:56:34,000 --> 01:56:36,720
Speaker 1: the same way Brady did. I think Bill has summarily

2361
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:39,240
Speaker 1: come out to the conclusion or come to the conclusion

2362
01:56:39,320 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 1: that Max Sealing is middle of the pack, which would

2363
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,960
Speaker 1: be fine if he also didn't have a diva attitude

2364
01:56:44,680 --> 01:56:48,680
Speaker 1: between That's a good point along with his abrasis to

2365
01:56:48,760 --> 01:56:51,800
Speaker 1: Bill attitude is why would I why would I not

2366
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,720
Speaker 1: be shocked if Bill moves on from Mac far quicker

2367
01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,280
Speaker 1: than many other Pats fans believe. Yeah, a couple of

2368
01:56:57,280 --> 01:56:59,120
Speaker 1: things on that, and I think that's an interesting way

2369
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:03,200
Speaker 1: of looking at it. Um first, as snarky, Paul will

2370
01:57:03,280 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 1: chime in real quickly and say, it'll be interesting if

2371
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Bill decides to pull the plug on Mac, how the

2372
01:57:12,040 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 1: scrambling will occur among my colleagues. I'll just call him.

2373
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 1: I won't call anybody out, but like, oh, oh, well,

2374
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,520
Speaker 1: Bill doesn't think he's any good. Oh oh okay, I

2375
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:26,040
Speaker 1: think I must have to change my view. So Zappy

2376
01:57:26,160 --> 01:57:31,000
Speaker 1: huh leads me to my second point. Mike Greece had

2377
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:36,280
Speaker 1: a lot of those quotes from Zappy from that rookie events.

2378
01:57:36,120 --> 01:57:42,440
Speaker 1: It's like cards trade. Yeah, you know the way that

2379
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,360
Speaker 1: the email had just phrased it. I think he's come

2380
01:57:45,400 --> 01:57:47,640
Speaker 1: to the conclusion that he's middle of the pack, which

2381
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:52,000
Speaker 1: would be fine except for that he's a diva. I

2382
01:57:52,040 --> 01:57:54,440
Speaker 1: think he might look at it and say, based on

2383
01:57:54,520 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: what we've heard from Zappy, he's as far from a

2384
01:57:58,200 --> 01:58:00,160
Speaker 1: diva as you can get. Now. I don't know if

2385
01:58:00,160 --> 01:58:01,880
Speaker 1: he's good enough to be middle of the pack. Yeah,

2386
01:58:02,480 --> 01:58:05,360
Speaker 1: but if your Bill, and you're like this guy, does

2387
01:58:05,400 --> 01:58:09,320
Speaker 1: and says everything I want him to say. I'll take him. Yeah,

2388
01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:12,600
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think that's outrageous. See, what do

2389
01:58:12,600 --> 01:58:14,640
Speaker 1: you think there's going to be any semblance of a

2390
01:58:14,720 --> 01:58:21,560
Speaker 1: quarterback competition in the off season? But between those two no, no, no,

2391
01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:25,280
Speaker 1: So you think, no matter how well Zappy plays, Mac

2392
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:28,520
Speaker 1: Jones is the starter. Yeah. Yeah, And I'm not saying that.

2393
01:58:28,560 --> 01:58:30,360
Speaker 1: I think I agree with me. Yeah, I think I

2394
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:32,760
Speaker 1: agree with I mean another one I wanted to fight back,

2395
01:58:33,120 --> 01:58:35,640
Speaker 1: No one to fight with. No, sorry, I mean I

2396
01:58:35,680 --> 01:58:38,600
Speaker 1: just think that they're you. You've got to make amends

2397
01:58:38,640 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: somewhat or at least make it so that Mac can

2398
01:58:41,360 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: can can have a chance to succeed. And I think

2399
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,400
Speaker 1: if you instantly go into all right now you're in

2400
01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback competition like you're not getting him back on,

2401
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:50,200
Speaker 1: you know, on board with everything, in fact, you know,

2402
01:58:50,240 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: then he might even go further the other way. Let's

2403
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:57,280
Speaker 1: do one more here from Tim, Tim writing in about

2404
01:58:57,320 --> 01:58:59,760
Speaker 1: something I'm sure Paul could not care less about. So

2405
01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,600
Speaker 1: it's perfect end this show with what do you guys

2406
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:04,640
Speaker 1: think of the NFL's Pro Bowl? Is there anything that

2407
01:59:04,640 --> 01:59:06,280
Speaker 1: would do to improve it? I honestly believe that the

2408
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,040
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl is a waste of time, but that's just me.

2409
01:59:08,600 --> 01:59:10,880
Speaker 1: He loves the show. Just to let everybody know they're

2410
01:59:10,920 --> 01:59:12,920
Speaker 1: changing this year. So there's all kinds of events, and

2411
01:59:12,920 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have a flag football game on Sunday,

2412
01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:18,080
Speaker 1: so that's this week. Thursday night, they'll have a bunch

2413
01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: of I think dodgeball, other kind of you know, those

2414
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,280
Speaker 1: kind of things, and then no more Pro Bowl game.

2415
01:59:23,320 --> 01:59:26,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna be flag football will turney and the Mannings

2416
01:59:26,040 --> 01:59:27,600
Speaker 1: will be there and stuff. So I will say this

2417
01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:34,200
Speaker 1: because of all the changes I am, I don't think

2418
01:59:34,280 --> 01:59:36,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to wind up being interested, but I'm going

2419
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: to probably check it out just to see something I

2420
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:42,560
Speaker 1: haven't seen. Like I looked, saw a very little of

2421
01:59:42,600 --> 01:59:46,040
Speaker 1: the skills stuff. Last year. You saw mac winn most accurate.

2422
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:51,080
Speaker 1: I'm not sure I did see that, but I will see.

2423
01:59:51,440 --> 01:59:53,560
Speaker 1: I will tune in to see like a dodgeball thing

2424
01:59:53,600 --> 01:59:56,720
Speaker 1: or some kind of silliness. I have no interest whatsoever

2425
01:59:56,760 --> 02:00:01,080
Speaker 1: in the flag football game, but I don't think it'll work.

2426
02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:05,160
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's an attempt to like recognize

2427
02:00:05,200 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: that the game is um unwatchable and useless old game,

2428
02:00:10,480 --> 02:00:13,840
Speaker 1: old game. So they're trying to do something different, and

2429
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:16,840
Speaker 1: I think that there's um some merits to that. I think,

2430
02:00:17,280 --> 02:00:19,680
Speaker 1: same kind of thing deal with the hockey, right, they've

2431
02:00:20,040 --> 02:00:22,839
Speaker 1: gone to this three on three format with the different

2432
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:26,560
Speaker 1: divisions I think, and the skills stuff. Like I'm watching

2433
02:00:26,640 --> 02:00:28,720
Speaker 1: I watch it in passing. You know, I'm not. It's

2434
02:00:28,760 --> 02:00:33,240
Speaker 1: not like appointment television. But the games themselves anymore like

2435
02:00:34,320 --> 02:00:36,800
Speaker 1: that old Pro Bowl. Yeah, I mean the Major League

2436
02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:40,880
Speaker 1: Baseball All Star Game, no interest, NBA All Star Game,

2437
02:00:41,120 --> 02:00:44,120
Speaker 1: no interest. I just I want to see what it looks.

2438
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:45,960
Speaker 1: I do want to see what the flag football game

2439
02:00:46,240 --> 02:00:47,760
Speaker 1: looks like, just because like what do they do with

2440
02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,560
Speaker 1: the big fatties? You know, like are those guys play?

2441
02:00:49,600 --> 02:00:51,000
Speaker 1: They ever put those guys out? Like do they have

2442
02:00:51,040 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 1: some fun with it? Like I just like the idea,

2443
02:00:55,160 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: like dodgeball? Is it like you know, like justin Herbert

2444
02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:01,920
Speaker 1: everybody look out anyway? Do you get like Marcus Jones

2445
02:01:02,440 --> 02:01:07,800
Speaker 1: out there dodgeball against like Trent Williams like fascinating? You know,

2446
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:11,400
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hills doing like backflips to avoid people. I don't. Yeah, yeah,

2447
02:01:11,480 --> 02:01:13,600
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be I mean, I don't know

2448
02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:15,320
Speaker 1: how much of it. I'll watch. I'll probably flip it on,

2449
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:17,720
Speaker 1: but I don't think that. I'll probably say about thirty

2450
02:01:17,720 --> 02:01:20,400
Speaker 1: seconds and turn off. All right, that's gonna do it

2451
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:23,040
Speaker 1: for PP and the Deuce here today. Well, we'll wrap

2452
02:01:23,040 --> 02:01:25,280
Speaker 1: it up. We should have the full crew back on Thursday,

2453
02:01:25,320 --> 02:01:27,640
Speaker 1: so we'll get some recaps of what happened out in Vegas.

2454
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:29,600
Speaker 1: And that's why I had to talk so much. Yeah, yeah,

2455
02:01:29,600 --> 02:01:32,360
Speaker 1: I know you want to be doing, not anticipating, get

2456
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:36,000
Speaker 1: any airtime on Fursday. We'll see you guys on Thursday.

2457
02:01:37,800 --> 02:01:41,640
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02:01:41,680 --> 02:01:44,720
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