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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: No, you thought the Olympics were all about sports? Oh

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Speaker 2: think again, that's coming right out. Good morning, everybody. This

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Speaker 2: is Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. He is

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Ferno. We're broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio studios. And by the way, before we

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Speaker 2: introduce the main man of the show, Bucky Brooks, we

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Speaker 2: do have ask Bucky at the end of this hour.

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Speaker 2: If you have any questions for Bucky Brooks and he

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Speaker 2: has all the answers, you could tweet him at Bucky

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Speaker 2: Brooks or at Andy Furman FSR. So we'll get ready

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Speaker 2: right now, and here he is. Here's the man, mister

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Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks. Hello, Buck, how are you? How is your week?

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Speaker 3: That's been a great week. Man, can't get more excited.

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Speaker 3: Football is done with the Super Bowl, but we are

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Speaker 3: now on the draft season.

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Speaker 4: Fun.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we are, well you are, I mean, you know

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Speaker 2: you're you're the guy that kind of like uncovers all

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Speaker 2: the secrets. And we'll get into that a little more

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Speaker 2: a little more later on today. But the question I

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Speaker 2: have have you been watching the Olympics?

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Speaker 3: That's the question I have casually I can't say that

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Speaker 3: I've dug in and been really really deep into it,

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Speaker 3: but I've casually paid attention.

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Speaker 2: You know, I feel the same way as you do.

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Speaker 2: But I don't have much of a choice because my

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Speaker 2: wife is Canadian, all right, So I got to keep

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Speaker 2: the doors locked in my house for ice. You know,

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Speaker 2: I don't want them knocking on my door. But the

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Speaker 2: point is that she is gung ho. And you know

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Speaker 2: what happened the other day. The Canadians got caught cheating

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Speaker 2: on the curling situation. They were touching the thing, the bricks,

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Speaker 2: So you know, it's not been pleasant for her. And

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Speaker 2: they lost in hockey as well, So you know, that's

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Speaker 2: what I have to live with. But I will say this,

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Speaker 2: the Olympics are wonderful because there's great athletes, there's great storylines.

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Speaker 2: But I got to believe in my heart of hearts

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Speaker 2: that the media has ruined it. I got to explain.

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Speaker 2: Hear me, and if I'm wrong, I know you'll slap

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Speaker 2: me around a little bit. One of the best stories

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Speaker 2: in the Olympics is the USA's newest Olympics store. He's

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Speaker 2: a fifty four year old lawyer, but I name a

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Speaker 2: rich runin he's a personal injury attorney and men, believe

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Speaker 2: it or not, of the curling team. Okay, let me

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Speaker 2: give you a little bit of a background. If you

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Speaker 2: haven't heard about this guy. He cooks the player's omelets

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Speaker 2: before the matches. He grules them steaks. If the big wins,

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Speaker 2: he handles the early morning grocery shopping so they could

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Speaker 2: sleep in. He's unbelievable, this guy. He choffs them around

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Speaker 2: in rent the minivans, He pays for some of their

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Speaker 2: flights and their hotel rooms. This guy's unbelievable, really, and

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Speaker 2: it's a great story. But the media, in my mind,

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Speaker 2: has baited this guy. And I got a little bit

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Speaker 2: of a SoundBite from this guy courtesy of CNN. Let's

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Speaker 2: take a listen to rich ronin.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to say I'm proud to be here to

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Speaker 5: represent Team USA and to represent our country. But we'd

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Speaker 5: be remiss if we didn't at least mention what's going

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Speaker 5: on in Minnesota and what a tough time it's been

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Speaker 5: for everybody.

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Speaker 2: This stuff is.

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Speaker 5: Happening right right around where we live, and what's happening

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Speaker 5: in Minnesota is wrong. There's no shades of gray. It's

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Speaker 5: clear what the Olympics means is excellence, respect, friendship, and

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Speaker 5: we all, I think, exemplify that. And we are playing

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Speaker 5: for the people of Minnesota, the people around the country

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Speaker 5: who share those same values, that compassion, that love and

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Speaker 5: that respect.

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Speaker 2: To be a favorite. Please, I'm ready to gag myself.

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Speaker 2: This is the Olympics, this is about sports. How come

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Speaker 2: the media is asking him about politics? And really and

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Speaker 2: truly I blame the Olympic committee. The question should be

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Speaker 2: geared to one thing and one thing only, How you performed,

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Speaker 2: how you relate with the other members of the team,

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Speaker 2: How the hell you even got on the team? Why

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Speaker 2: would the media ask political questions? And the Olympics? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I want to know how and why he got started

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Speaker 2: and curling? Okay, I want to know all these questions.

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Speaker 2: I want to know why the media doesn't ask athletes

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Speaker 2: Why do they make this Olympics a political venue? I

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Speaker 2: don't get it. Am I wrong? Bucky Brooks? Tell me

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Speaker 2: if if I'm wrong, I'll explain and I'll apologize to everybody.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's disgusting, I really do.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: I wouldn't call it disgusting, But I think it's impossible

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Speaker 3: everyone wants these athletes to play theater to entertain them,

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Speaker 4: I think it's impossible to do so.

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Speaker 3: Like we want people to stand in the arena and

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Speaker 3: to be the gladiators, but we don't want to hear

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Speaker 3: may have prevented them or may have motivated him to

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Speaker 4: Spot right in front of us.

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Speaker 3: I think people are expected to and should be compelled

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Speaker 3: when they have a platform to do that. Now, if

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Speaker 3: We get mad when they don't answer the questions that

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Speaker 3: have any issue with people speaking out. The Olympics are

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Speaker 3: the world's game. It's not America's games, it's the world's game.

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Speaker 3: And if they on a national platform, on a worldwide platform,

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Speaker 2: To well, I will say this. I watched the Olympics.

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Speaker 2: I think that it's a wonderful situation where countries are

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Speaker 2: walking arm in arm, hand in hand with the entire

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Speaker 2: world right now is in a hate mode, you know,

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Speaker 2: anti semitism, anti racism, whatever it may be. But at

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Speaker 2: least the sports venues bring everything together and I love that.

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Speaker 2: And for him to kind of just wail on this

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Speaker 2: stop it? I mean, and maybe maybe I'm just one

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Speaker 2: of those guys that just like, you know, I'm living

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Speaker 2: in a Pollyanna state and I'm not going to have that.

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Speaker 2: And we look, we see that in the NBA, the

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Speaker 2: charity operations and things like that. But to sit there

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Speaker 2: watched the Olympics to forget about that stuff for a while.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, but we can't bury a head from what's going on.

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Speaker 3: You talk about like those issues and maybe you've been

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Speaker 3: he's dealing with those things, he should speak on that

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Speaker 3: And the people that are uncomfortable with that are the

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Speaker 3: people that are not living in reality. We all want

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Speaker 3: want to see these countries walk hand in hand and

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Speaker 3: everything is great, when it's really not great. We have

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Speaker 3: okay with him acknowledging those things on the platform.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that. I respect your opinion, and certainly you

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Speaker 2: and I hear what you're saying, and you're right, You're

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Speaker 2: didn't turn me off. I respect him. Fifty four years

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Speaker 2: curling team. I think it's a wonderful story. But I

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Speaker 2: think for him to do that and just spout, and

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Speaker 2: he has every right to do that, I agree with you,

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Speaker 2: and this country isn't a bit of a state of unrest.

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Speaker 2: I think he can turn off a lot of people

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Speaker 2: like him. I respect him. I love what he has

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Speaker 2: done to become a curling member and an Olympic member.

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Speaker 2: But I think by stay, by doing what he has done,

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Speaker 2: I hope I'm wrong.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, those people that are turned off were turned

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Speaker 4: There're people that are suffering.

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Speaker 3: And whether he's talking about anti semitism, where you're talking

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Speaker 3: plaguing the world and plaguing in our country, Like he

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Speaker 3: like we're trying to have our cake and eat it too.

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Speaker 3: We want the athlete, but we don't want the person

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Speaker 3: and that's not fair to him.

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Speaker 2: Right. And wasn't there somebody in the media a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago when Lebron James and he's the king,

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Speaker 2: I mean he's the king as far as using let

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Speaker 2: us to stay on a platform sake, just shut up

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Speaker 2: and play or shut up and dribble.

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Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, should have been dribble.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Laura Am said, shut up and dribble, Like it's

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Speaker 3: impossible for people to do that you cannot. And I'll

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Speaker 3: a box and say, hey, you're just an athlete. You're

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Speaker 3: do as your job. But don't. I don't want to

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Speaker 3: entertained by you. And that's not fair because what gives

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Speaker 3: you the right to offer up your opinion and to

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Speaker 4: You can't have it both ways.

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Speaker 2: And you know what, the athletes that have used their

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Speaker 2: so to speak, are somewhat hated by either immediate people

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Speaker 2: of the fans. I'm looking at Lebron and maybe Kareem

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Speaker 2: when Kareem really was one of those guys and Bill Russell,

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Speaker 2: I don't want to hear what you have to say, right,

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Speaker 3: The rules are the rules, and so if you make rules,

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Speaker 2: That's like comparing, you know, a baseball player with a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, it's silly, but we enjoy stilliness because that's

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Speaker 4: I would say this, he's injured and he can't play.

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Speaker 3: He couldn't play it on Tuesday night, so there's no

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Speaker 4: The main thing, and the main thing is what he

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Speaker 2: The Lakers, no doubt about that. But you know, I've

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Speaker 3: I think it's remarkable that he's forty one years old,

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Speaker 2: I would say this, and you would know more than

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're both tremendous and tremendous to do both.

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Speaker 2: But it's a shorter schedule, and I think the fact

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Speaker 2: I hear what you say, But do you think that

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Speaker 2: But maybe I'm I'm looking at the NBA streaks as

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Speaker 2: Hey, take a look who might be wearing a uniform.

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Speaker 2: That's right around the corner. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm

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Speaker 2: here defirm, and he did wear a uniform, and we

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Speaker 2: for the Fox Sports Radio studios. We got to ask

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Speaker 2: Bucky in about twelve minutes from now, but right now

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk about Kenneth Walker the third How surprised

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Speaker 2: were your fuck that he was the MVP. I mean, obviously,

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Speaker 2: after what he did, he had to be the MVP,

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Speaker 2: but obviously a non quarterback, which was wonderful people who

459
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Speaker 2: had their eyes open and gave him the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, No, there was a lot of confronsation where they

461
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Speaker 3: certainly didn't want to. They wanted Sam Donald to somehow

462
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Speaker 3: find a way to be the MVP. But Kenneth Walker

463
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Speaker 3: was well deserving. If you look at the critical drive

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Speaker 3: in the first half, we had two explosive runs the

465
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Speaker 3: way that he almost had. Look, he had one hundred

466
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Speaker 3: scrimmage yards the first half. He was dominant. That kind

467
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Speaker 3: of set the tone for the Seahawks and it allowed

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Speaker 3: them to kind of cruise to a victory without having

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Speaker 3: to fully expose their offense, meaning they didn't have to

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Speaker 3: really take the governor off, they didn't have to really

471
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Speaker 3: do unnecessary risky things to put the ball into paint.

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Speaker 3: They just found a way to get up and they

473
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Speaker 3: maintained that lead, and Kenneth Walker was a big part

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Speaker 3: of that.

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Speaker 2: Dude, it's an interesting story. I don't know if you

476
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Speaker 2: heard or not about Kenneth Walker's dad. Kenneth Walker's got

477
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Speaker 2: a big supporter obviously of his son and his football career.

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Speaker 2: Had never seen him play in person, be it in

479
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Speaker 2: high school or in college, and the first game he

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Speaker 2: had ever seen was a Super Bowl when he got

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Speaker 2: the MVP. Is that a story a lot. That's tremendous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's a crazy story. Like that's great

483
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Speaker 3: that the dad was finally able to watch him play.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine being unable to watch my.

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Speaker 3: Kids play early particul the interformative views when they're in

486
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Speaker 3: high school and middle school, in those things.

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Speaker 4: But it's glad that they were able to get that together.

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Speaker 3: He was able to watch him, he was able to

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Speaker 3: support him, and he was able to support him in

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Speaker 3: one of the best moments of his sports playing career.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but here's the story right now. He's a Super

492
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Speaker 2: Bowl champ, he's an MVP. He's also a free agent.

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Speaker 2: What does he do? Does he go for the repeat,

494
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Speaker 2: does he go for the money? And what if not Seattle.

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Speaker 2: Where would he go.

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Speaker 4: No, he goes for the money.

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Speaker 3: His job, he has earning power, unless it's a situation

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Speaker 3: that's close.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is the opportunity.

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Speaker 3: This is the time for mccash and he plays a

501
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Speaker 3: position that the second contract is normally the last contract.

502
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Speaker 3: He second round pick coming in, so this is his

503
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Speaker 3: time to make money. And he showed over the course

504
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Speaker 3: of the postseason that he could be a workhorse running

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Speaker 3: back with one hundred yard games in each of the

506
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Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks postseason games. So this is the time for

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Speaker 3: him to cash out.

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Speaker 4: I know he would.

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Speaker 3: Love to stay in Seattle, and if all things are considered,

510
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Speaker 3: like it's a relatively small difference between what another team

511
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Speaker 3: is offering and what the Seahawks are offering, yeah, maybe

512
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Speaker 3: you can lean into the discount. But right now, man,

513
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Speaker 3: this is a chance for him to cash it in,

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Speaker 3: and he has to take advantage of the opportunity to

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Speaker 3: get to cash.

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Speaker 2: A career year in a contract year is something people

517
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Speaker 2: can only dream about. Okay, and the production that he

518
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Speaker 2: had this year his age, He's only twenty five free

519
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Speaker 2: agent right now, this could be a big This could

520
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Speaker 2: be a lottery year for this guy. Really, it's tremendous.

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Speaker 2: And look, I've been reading about what people say about

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Speaker 2: Kenneth Walker the third and his talent, okay, and what

523
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Speaker 2: he has some of the check marks against his name.

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Speaker 2: He has tackle avoidance. I never heard that before, but

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Speaker 2: this is what they're writing about him. He has patience

526
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Speaker 2: in the backfield, he has explosiveness, he has strength, and

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Speaker 2: he has creativity. All right, and I guess he does.

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Speaker 2: But he showed the world about that last week. He

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Speaker 2: certainly did.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. Now he's big time. I mean he legitimately he's

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Speaker 4: big time.

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Speaker 3: He has the thing that you have to wonder if

533
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Speaker 3: you're a team. And this is why it's always tricky

534
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Speaker 3: in free agency for teams that are considering taking on

535
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Speaker 3: another player's talent. Why did it take so long for

536
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Speaker 3: him to pop? He has some injuries? What's the nature

537
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Speaker 3: of those injuries? Are those injuries due to the fact

538
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Speaker 3: that he can't carry a full workload. He needs a

539
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Speaker 3: complimentary runner like Zach Charbonnet was for him in Seattle

540
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Speaker 3: where they shared the workload and then he took over

541
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Speaker 3: down the stretch because he was fresh doing throughout the

542
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Speaker 3: regular season. Does he have the ability to sustain the

543
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Speaker 3: kind of production that we saw in the playoffs over time,

544
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Speaker 3: and if he does, how can we kind of stretch

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Speaker 3: that out. You talked about him being twenty five, Well,

546
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Speaker 3: most running backs fall off the cliff when they hit

547
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Speaker 3: twenty seven to twenty eight.

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Speaker 4: So we're talking about three good prime years left, all right.

549
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Speaker 3: We want to keep the contract within those terms because

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Speaker 3: we don't want to pay for the bad years.

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Speaker 4: All that to be in consideration. But he's a really

552
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Speaker 4: good player.

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Speaker 3: He played really well in that scheme, and that's also

554
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Speaker 3: a part of he played well in that zone based

555
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Speaker 3: scheme that Clink Koopiak broad Ha's been a big.

556
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Speaker 4: Factor in elevating a bunch of running backs. So you

557
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Speaker 4: have to.

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Speaker 3: Separate what is scheme driven, the talent situation, the injury history,

559
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Speaker 3: and then the age. How does all of that project

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Speaker 3: that all factors into this offer that he's about to receive.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what this means, but there's only been

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Speaker 2: three Super Bowl MVPs that have played for a different

563
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Speaker 2: team the following year. There were Dexter Jackson back on three,

564
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Speaker 2: Desmond Howard in ninety seven, and Larry Brown in nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety six. So there's a good chance that'll probably be

566
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Speaker 2: back in Seattle. But here's a situation that's close to

567
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Speaker 2: home for you. Travis at and Junior. He's a free

568
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Speaker 2: agent running back in Jacksonville. There's a possibility he may jump.

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Speaker 2: I would think maybe I don't know, you know better

570
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Speaker 2: than I. Maybe you don't want to talk about it.

571
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Speaker 2: But should he jump? Maybe Kenneth Welcome the third goes

572
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Speaker 2: to Jacksonville. I don't know. I'm just speculating.

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Speaker 3: Well, if so, here's what you normally would think about

574
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Speaker 3: if you're a team. If I am the Jacksonville Jaguars,

575
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Speaker 3: and I would have to pay premium prices for Kenneth Walker. Look,

576
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Speaker 3: I already know what I'm getting in Travis y Etn.

577
00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 3: He's been superb in the system. We know exactly what

578
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Speaker 3: he is in the system. He's been around the organization

579
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Speaker 3: for five years. You know who the person is. Sometimes

580
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Speaker 3: when you take on free agents from other places, you

581
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Speaker 3: don't really know how they fit in, not only to

582
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Speaker 3: your locker room, but the culture within the building. To me,

583
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Speaker 3: I think you stayed with Travis Dtn over Kenneth Walker

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Speaker 3: in that scenario, right.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what other team perhaps out there, except

586
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Speaker 2: maybe the Kansas City Chiefs. You think, I mean, I

587
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Speaker 2: don't know, but I'm thinking like he's going to stay

588
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Speaker 2: in Seattle. I think they want to keep something rolling

589
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Speaker 2: over there.

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Speaker 3: I really do the money, Yeah, I mean maybe maybe

591
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Speaker 3: that depends on what else is out there for them

592
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 3: to have to deal with. There are other parts in

593
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Speaker 3: other positions. And what you typically do you're a free

594
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,679
Speaker 3: agent in the free agent market is uss what's available.

595
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: What's available in the free agent market, what is available

596
00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 3: in the draft versus the player in where he is.

597
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Speaker 3: And I want to tell you, in the draft, solid

598
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: solid number of running backs, not high end guys, but

599
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 3: that second and third round is will be a sweet

600
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Speaker 3: spot for a lot of running backs to come off

601
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Speaker 3: the board. You found Kenneth Walker in the second round.

602
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Speaker 3: How confident are you in your scouting system that you

603
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Speaker 3: can find a player who is an equal that if

604
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Speaker 3: you put in your system, can give you that kind

605
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Speaker 3: of production. Those are the things that you're considering when

606
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 3: it comes to the Kenneth Warker evaluation. Are you intent

607
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 3: or were your intent on ever signing him back to

608
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Speaker 3: a deal prior to the season, and now did he

609
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 3: played well? Do you stick to your guns or do

610
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 3: you allow your emotions and fan sentiment to change what

611
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Speaker 3: you would normally do?

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Speaker 2: Okay, now I'm going to get a personal question too,

613
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Speaker 2: because I don't know. I think the average person on

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Speaker 2: the street doesn't know this. A guy like Kenneth Welker

615
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Speaker 2: the third, obviously, the free agent, does he know what

616
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 2: teams might be interested in him? Or does he leave

617
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Speaker 2: this entirely on his agent's back. I mean, does he

618
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Speaker 2: go to his agent and he say, look, tell me

619
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Speaker 2: what teams you think might be interested in me and

620
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Speaker 2: let's discuss it. Or he'll say I want to stay

621
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Speaker 2: in Seattle, or I'd like to play for Jacksonville. How

622
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Speaker 2: does that work? How does the conversation work as far

623
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Speaker 2: as a free agent with his agent.

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Speaker 3: Well, the agent works for you, no different than your

625
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: accountant works for you. So you check in with them.

626
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Speaker 3: You have conversations. You may utter your wish lists. Hey,

627
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Speaker 3: here are the things that I'm looking for in a

628
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Speaker 3: new team. Here's the money. What do you think the

629
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Speaker 3: money is? He'll give his professional opinion, Hey, here's our

630
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Speaker 3: honest take on where we could be sitting at range wise,

631
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Speaker 3: and then he'll pitch, like, what things do you consider

632
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Speaker 3: in a new team, and they'll go back and forth,

633
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,320
Speaker 3: have a conversation so he understands the parameters, and then

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Speaker 3: he'll go sniff around and hunt. He's already started, the

635
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 3: agent has already started kind of sniffing around, trying to

636
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Speaker 3: gauge market market value, because, as we've seen in free agency,

637
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 3: first forty eight those first forty eight hours, or when

638
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Speaker 3: the flurry of activity happens, then there's a pause, the

639
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,000
Speaker 3: market resets, and then by the end of that first

640
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Speaker 3: week you have another.

641
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Speaker 4: Flurry of activity.

642
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Speaker 3: Once you get the week two, the money drives up

643
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Speaker 3: and the prices come down. So you want to make

644
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Speaker 3: sure that you have a reasonable expectation for what you

645
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Speaker 3: can get and who you can get it from that

646
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Speaker 3: first weekend, because if the longer it goes on, the

647
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Speaker 3: less likely you are to get a blockbuster deal.

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Speaker 2: Wow, if I'm a betting man, I say he stays

649
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Speaker 2: in Seattle. I hope he does. I think it's been

650
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Speaker 2: good for the team for to stay there. But here's

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Speaker 2: the story that I kind of made me crazy when

652
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Speaker 2: I read this. Derek Carr, a Pro Bowl, a four

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Speaker 2: time Pro Bowl quarterback, could be returned to the NFL

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Speaker 2: this year. That's amazing. I mean, why would he Is

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Speaker 2: it a money situation. I know he was heard with

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Speaker 2: the shoulder, so I guess his shoulders a lot better now.

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Speaker 2: But he may be coming back to the NFL. As

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Speaker 2: a matter of fact, there was a podcast with he

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Speaker 2: and his brother, the David and Derek Podcast talking about it.

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Speaker 2: Let's take a listen.

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Speaker 4: I love Aaron Glenn. I love good friend, Grey Golfer,

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Speaker 4: A good friend. O love Eron Glynn.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I talk to him whenever it's viable. All right, Okay,

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Speaker 8: I love I love Aeron Glenn. Might be viable soon.

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Speaker 8: Green Sweacher. Yeah, mine was for Christmas Tree. I love him,

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Speaker 8: but I also love Jet fans. Here's why. Okay, I threw.

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Speaker 8: I checked cover your fans, little deal.

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Speaker 4: I checked. I throw this game. Win?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, God rusk Jet fans because we help them get

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Speaker 8: a worst.

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Speaker 2: Trap donated to Valley Children's Hospital.

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Speaker 4: Oh that's cool.

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Speaker 8: They're like Derek, I got so many tweets, thank you

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Speaker 8: so much and valid Children's Even was like telling me

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Speaker 8: we're getting so many New Jersey and New York calls

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Speaker 8: right now.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty Jet fans.

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Speaker 1: Well done there.

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Speaker 4: I love you. I'll give you for helping the kids.

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Speaker 2: How do you like that? Is Derek and David Podcast.

681
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Speaker 2: He's going to play against year.

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Speaker 9: But to what happens here? I guess right. He put

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Speaker 9: it out there. If he's gonna play, he's gonna be

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Speaker 9: a New York Jay. He talked about Aaron Glamb being

685
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Speaker 9: a dear friend. He talked about loving Jets friends.

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Speaker 3: Uh, he kind of has this New Orleans Saints not

687
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Speaker 3: in the buying. But what the Saints have They retain

688
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Speaker 3: his rights, they have Tyler Shutt who's playing.

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Speaker 4: It's unlikely they want to.

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Speaker 3: Go back to if he says, hey, I want to

691
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Speaker 3: come out of retirement, it's unlikely they wanted to play.

692
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Speaker 3: But then what would have to happen. The Saints would

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Speaker 3: trade him to the Jets. They would either trade him

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Speaker 3: outright release him. But if he is dead, said I'm

695
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Speaker 3: going with the Jets.

696
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Speaker 4: You work out of trade.

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Speaker 3: Saints get some conversation back. It makes it easy for them.

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Speaker 3: That might be the way that you can orchestrate it.

699
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Speaker 3: But he also here's what Derek Carr has been able

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Speaker 3: to look at. There are no quarterbacks available on the

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Speaker 3: open market. Willis is the top free agent quarterback prospect

702
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Speaker 3: if I'm Derek and I feel like I can play,

703
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Speaker 3: I'm a four time pro bowler. The last time I

704
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Speaker 3: played was okay. I know that I can go and

705
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Speaker 3: command top dollar. I may be able to go out

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Speaker 3: there and get forty forty million plus to play it again.

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Speaker 3: I mean, if the body feels okay and I want

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Speaker 3: to go get it, Yeah, he can go.

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Speaker 4: He goes right to the front, he goes to the

710
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Speaker 4: top of the charts.

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Speaker 2: I got to ask you what what drives a guy

712
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Speaker 2: to want to I mean, obviously money is the fact

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Speaker 2: that maybe maybe he needs the money. Maybe that's I

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Speaker 2: don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wouldn't say that it's necessarily that he

716
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Speaker 3: needs the money.

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Speaker 4: But okay, let's say you're a business man.

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Speaker 3: You're Andy Furman ink, right, is it ever bad business

719
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Speaker 3: to take a forty million dollar check?

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Speaker 4: If we're just talking about business, and if I could

721
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Speaker 4: give you one hundred million dollars over three years, is

722
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Speaker 4: that a bad business play?

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Speaker 3: If you feel like you still can do what Andy

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Speaker 3: Furman ink does, Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take you that.

726
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Speaker 3: Philip Rivers was out for five years and came back.

727
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Speaker 3: So some of it is the competitive hitch in Phillip's case.

728
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Speaker 3: But for Derek Carr, if you're competitive and you have

729
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Speaker 3: an opportunity to do business the right way, why wouldn't

730
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Speaker 3: you take an opportunity to take it?

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Speaker 2: But I think you hit the nail on the head.

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Speaker 2: I mean, the competitive in this obviously is a factor.

733
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Speaker 2: The money's a factor. But obviously what you said that

734
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Speaker 2: the quarterback landscape is very weak because not only can

735
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Speaker 2: he go to the Jets because of his buddy Aaron Glenn,

736
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Speaker 2: but the Vikings net the quarterback. This dealers have a

737
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: question right now, is Aaron Rodgers is going to come back?

738
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Speaker 2: There's a question in Kansas City with the injury factor

739
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Speaker 2: out there, the Colts possibility, the Falcons, they're hurting for

740
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Speaker 2: a quarterback, so no quarterbacks out there, and obviously there's

741
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Speaker 2: a need. And he thinks that he could come back

742
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Speaker 2: as a healthy quarterback and command some money and play

743
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Speaker 2: and help a team. I think he can.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean yeah, that right there in itself makes

745
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 3: it enough to at least entertain the possibilities if you

746
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Speaker 3: puss it out here.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's why it's out there.

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Speaker 2: No doubt about that, all right. He's Bucky Brooks. I

749
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Speaker 2: may defirm. We are brodcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. It is time, ask away. He has the

751
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: answers for you. It's asked Bucky, and it's your don't

752
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:34,880
Speaker 2: listening to Fox Sports Radio radio? All right, asked Bucky.

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00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 2: Right around the corner, that's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Fermer.

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Speaker 2: We have Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. About

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Speaker 2: twelve minutes now before the top of the hour. We're

756
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Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. And I

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Speaker 2: guess we have to go to our good man, Brandon. Brandon,

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Speaker 2: are you ready? Are you ready?

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Speaker 8: My man?

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00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Are you ready?

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Speaker 1: All right?

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Speaker 2: Let's do It'll last Bucky right now.

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Speaker 10: Tyson Armstrong hits three Grand Slam home runs in his

764
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Speaker 10: Baylor baseball debut Friday Night Night fifteen to two season

765
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Speaker 10: opening victory over in New Mexico State, becoming just the

766
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Speaker 10: second college baseball player to accomplish that. Feet He joins

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Speaker 10: Louisville's Jim what is that Love Fountain? I guess Love Fountain. Wow,

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Speaker 10: not even I knew that I'm a baseball guy. In

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Speaker 10: March twenty fourth, nineteen seventy six, Bucky, what is the

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Speaker 10: hardest sporting feet to accomplish. After hearing this, I.

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Speaker 3: Would say, like hitting the baseball, hitting the baseball over

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Speaker 3: the park at the park is the hardest one, just

773
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Speaker 3: because about a moving oja going ninety plus miles per hour.

774
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Speaker 4: You got to swing with perfect timing and to launch it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that is harder than any other

776
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Speaker 3: feet because I think about tennis, I think my golf,

777
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Speaker 3: I think abou football and basketball.

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00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 4: Nothing is like hitting the baseball.

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Speaker 10: Okay, yeah, I got it. I agree completely as someone

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Speaker 10: who played baseball as well.

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Speaker 2: Yay, wait a minute, let's hear about your baseball.

782
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Speaker 4: Oh don't, don't, don't do it. Don't bury lead.

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Speaker 2: I'll be coming right in, baby, baby.

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Speaker 10: I didn't hit in college. I pitched in college, but

785
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 10: I hit in high school. Hitting the baseball is the

786
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 10: hardest thing to do. I think personally, as somebody pitched it,

787
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Speaker 10: will you pitched where I pitched? I pitched that Glendale

788
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 10: Community College and Transford SC for academics, and uh then

789
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 10: I tried to play professional baseball, didn't work out and whatever.

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Speaker 3: Oh oh, man like I I'd like to take you

791
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Speaker 3: to the backyard and take your yard.

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Speaker 4: I would like that.

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00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't know we could get.

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00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: The ball set up. Yeah, we get the ball set up. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I just want a batflip on you.

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Speaker 4: Thats all?

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00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 2: There we go. You was south Pool? South Pool?

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Speaker 10: No, I wish, dude, I'd be in MLB if I

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Speaker 10: threw left hand.

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Speaker 2: I wish. Here's the deal. How hard was you a fastball?

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Speaker 2: How many miles an hour? Not that hard?

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Speaker 10: I'm I'm six six to forty, but my I couldn't

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Speaker 10: throw harder than like ninety two ninety three.

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Speaker 4: Max. Yeah, you know you need it.

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Speaker 2: You needed an agent. That's what you needed. Really everybody.

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00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 10: Yeah, everyone has an agent.

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00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 2: Now at fort you would be asking Bucky Brooks questions

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Speaker 2: if you had an agent.

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Speaker 10: All right, I got another one here. In twenty nineteen,

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00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 10: New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft was arrested a part

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Speaker 10: of Florida investigation involving human trafficking and prostitution. At a

812
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 10: day Spy apologized for his actions and prosecutors dropped the charges.

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00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 10: He did deny it took part in any illegal activities.

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Speaker 10: The other day, New York Giants cowner Steve Tish was

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Speaker 10: linked having ties with Jeffrey Epstein. What does the NFL

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Speaker 10: do with Tish?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? That's a touching one.

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Speaker 3: Look, I think this is a far reaching deal when

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Speaker 3: it comes to Epstein and the amount of billionaires and

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Speaker 3: rich people that are involved in that. I think ultimately

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Speaker 3: the League will have to do something because they did

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Speaker 3: something with Robert Craft, and under the same guys. Of

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Speaker 3: the punishment that they may have doed out to Robert Craft,

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Speaker 3: they're used the same thing for Tish. It'd be like

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Speaker 3: a conduct detrimental, unbecoming something, something that led to embarrassing

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Speaker 3: and tarnishment of the league. But it'd be something that

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Speaker 3: they live you out there, and it might be kind

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Speaker 3: of quiet when they do it.

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you what kind of a loser I am?

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Speaker 2: I go back and tight. I had no idea that

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein went to my high school. That that's what

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Speaker 2: kind of a bubble I lived in. Really, maybe he

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Speaker 2: was okay, confessional. He could have been sitting next to

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Speaker 2: me in geometry. I had no idea. Why did someone

835
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Speaker 2: tell me these things? I didn't know?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I already also tipped Instacart people only two dollars,

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Speaker 10: So it's another thing.

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Speaker 2: He was almost a billionaire.

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Speaker 10: If that didn't show that he was a bad person

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Speaker 10: already that that definitely is licened on the cake. Lastly,

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Speaker 10: NFL wins the grievance against the NFL Players Association regarding

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Speaker 10: report cards. What does this mean?

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Speaker 3: I mean, so, here's the thing. Woody Johnson went hard. Uh,

844
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Speaker 3: owner of the New York just went hard because they

845
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Speaker 3: received an last year. And these surveys are done by

846
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 3: players anonymously, but they talk about facilities, training staff, coaching staff,

847
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Speaker 3: and all the things associated with how they're treated as players.

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Speaker 3: And look, I think it squashes the voice of players.

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Speaker 3: It allows the owners to go unchecked. They don't have

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Speaker 3: to have a level of accountability for what they're doing

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Speaker 3: with their franchise as it relates to players. So I

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Speaker 3: don't like it, But also don't like some of the

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Speaker 3: things that I read about how the NFLPA may have

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Speaker 3: sensationalized some of the responses and some of the things

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Speaker 3: that eventually went public.

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00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want the public to know. But I

857
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,319
Speaker 2: remember one year when the Bengals did that. They were

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Speaker 2: like an ath because they didn't give the players towels

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Speaker 2: and things like that. It was terrible. I guess they

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Speaker 2: don't want the public to know. That's why they did it, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they don't want the public to know. Like, yeah,

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Speaker 3: the Bengals are one where they talked about them having

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Speaker 3: a bind full of just grades and everyone to go

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Speaker 3: and get workout. Sure, so one day I get chased,

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Speaker 3: the next day I could get yours as you can

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Speaker 3: get mine.

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Speaker 4: That's right, that's nasty.

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Speaker 3: So somebody needs to do this so you don't continue

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Speaker 3: to have those practices. But yeah, you have to have

870
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 3: a level of accountabilding when it comes to those things.

871
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: Oh boy, see, do you have any more? Be anymore?

872
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 10: I think I don't think we have time for another one.

873
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 10: We got like twenty seconds, Bud, you won't even be

874
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 10: able to answer it all right?

875
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: Another hour A yeah, we could do that, But I

876
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: asked the question right now, is it too early to

877
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: raise the next Lombardi Trophy? That's the question. Okay, we'll

878
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 2: do that and so much more with Bucky brooks Andy Fermin, Brandon,

879
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 2: Mark Ramsey, all of us right here in the big

880
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 2: team are on Fox Football Sunday coming up right. Oh,

881
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 2: he's a hated man. We'll get to that in just

882
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 2: about a minute. Good morning, everybody, This is Fox Football

883
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 2: Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. He's Bucky Brooks and May Firm,

884
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,640
Speaker 2: and we're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

885
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:53,560
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886
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:56,920
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887
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:59,359
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888
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889
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890
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,279
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892
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 2: he is, the man of the hour, mister football. I

893
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 2: call him Bucky Brooks.

894
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 3: How are you, Buck, I'm doing great, Andy, no complaints.

895
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 4: Life is good on this side.

896
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,680
Speaker 2: I do have a complaint. I'm intimidating. Now you talk

897
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 2: about intimidation. I didn't realize until the last segment that

898
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 2: I'm working with two athletes. Now that's intimidation. I got

899
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,319
Speaker 2: you who played in the NFL, and now we got

900
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: our executive producer, Brandon and Brandon right now, Brandon Deutsch

901
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: was a baseball pitcher in college. That's ridiculous, that's crazy.

902
00:42:38,719 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 2: They just shit outlaw that on a sports talk show

903
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 2: because I'm intimidated by YouTube guys who are athletes. Really,

904
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: it's not fair, it really isn't.

905
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:53,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, Brandon throwing fast balls.

906
00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 2: Fast balls and tackles. That's what I got against me

907
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 2: right now. And by the way, I got a question

908
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 2: that was left over from as bucket. I'm gonna roll

909
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:03,359
Speaker 2: up by okay. But the San Francisco forty nine Ers,

910
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 2: they're gonna be the home team this year for the

911
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: NFL's game in Mexico City. They're gonna also play in Australia.

912
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: They'll be the first team to play multiple international games

913
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 2: in non consecutive weeks. They're gonna travel more than thirty

914
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: eight thousand miles next season. I want to know how

915
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 2: does that affect play? The good news is if you

916
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: have a frequent flyer card, I guess the players could

917
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: use that. Is that correct or no? Because they flight charter.

918
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. Is there a frequent flyer put the

919
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:29,759
Speaker 2: points on there?

920
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,920
Speaker 3: The players are definitely not getting the points ownership to

921
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 3: get points on anything.

922
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: The players are definitely not getting that.

923
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 3: Look, the travel part will be interesting because to take

924
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 3: on that kind of challenge, going back and forth, having

925
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:50,760
Speaker 3: the sleep schedules and arranging all of that. Look, that's

926
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 3: gonna be a daunting task for the person who's in

927
00:43:53,520 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 3: charge of that, and given the way that teams look,

928
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 3: they have a tough enough time traveling to the East Coast,

929
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 3: this could.

930
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 4: Put them at a disadvantage.

931
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,600
Speaker 3: I wonder you say they're serving as the home team

932
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: for both games and just one of the games.

933
00:44:10,239 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 2: Just won the home team for the Mexico City.

934
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 3: Game, Okay, So I just wonder if they are putting

935
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,759
Speaker 3: up the stuff because and saying all that, it can

936
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 3: be a cash cow for the team too. Like the

937
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:28,920
Speaker 3: international games that's split amongst the thirty two teams in

938
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 3: the league. But if you say we're gonna play an

939
00:44:31,120 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: international game and we're going to front all of the

940
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: money on all of the expense, you.

941
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 4: Get all that cash back.

942
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: And I can tell you those things sell out within

943
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 3: sixty minutes typically, and it's like a Super Bowl thing.

944
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: So it can be a very lucrative deal. And I

945
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 3: only say that because I watched Yat Khan basically do

946
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 3: it multiple years in London with the Jaguars.

947
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 4: So owners are delving into this.

948
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,240
Speaker 3: I think the Minnesota Vikings had a couple of international

949
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:02,399
Speaker 3: games last year because it is a very lucreative undertaking.

950
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 4: If you're able to pull it off.

951
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: Amazing. It really is in the Australia game. I mean

952
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 2: a lot of people be watching that game. I hope

953
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: it's at a normal time on the East Coast. We'll

954
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 2: see what happens over there. We'll see how they kind

955
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: of fare with their interest with the NFL. I guess

956
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 2: they do. They love that stuff. They'll be buying jerseys

957
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 2: and whatever. And now on the other side of the coin,

958
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 2: they got the NBA All Star Game today, And for

959
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,200
Speaker 2: some reason, like if I don't see it, I don't

960
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: feel as if I'm missing anything. Why is that? Is

961
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: that just me? I think I'm a number jority out there.

962
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 2: As a kid, I mean I still, maybe as late

963
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:37,080
Speaker 2: as maybe four or five years ago, I lived for

964
00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 2: the NBA. I wanted to see an NBA franchise, be

965
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: it in Cincinnati or Louisville. And now I'm kind of

966
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 2: a little bit cold on that because the game has changed.

967
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,640
Speaker 2: I remember as a kid, I took the Amtrak train

968
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 2: from New York City to Philadelphia for the I think

969
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 2: the nineteen seventy six All Star Game in Philadelphia. I'll

970
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: never forget. It cost me seven dollars for a ticket,

971
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 2: seven dollars to go for New York Philly by amtrak

972
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 2: to see the NBA All Star Game. Now, I don't

973
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 2: even think i'd walk around the corner. I really don't.

974
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 2: The game has changed ridiculous. It's crazy, great players, great athletes,

975
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 2: but there's something missing with that NBA All Star Game

976
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,360
Speaker 2: and the NBA in general, don't you agree?

977
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, look, I will say this. I will say

978
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 3: that we our habits have changed. We have more access

979
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 3: to the NBA now than we've ever had before. And

980
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: this is the same thing with baseball or whatever. We

981
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 3: were limited to just being able to see Game of.

982
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,680
Speaker 4: The Week right, which was over the weekend.

983
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 3: So the All Star Game gave us a chance to

984
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 3: see everybody that we've seen or heard about. So it

985
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: was a fascination that led us to sit right in

986
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 3: front of the TV and consume all of it. Now,

987
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 3: think about every team has a regional network. We have

988
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: Prime and NBC and all these games that are on.

989
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 4: We have more.

990
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,760
Speaker 3: Access because athletes have podcasts, so we see our stars

991
00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 3: all the time. That has taken some of it away

992
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: from you know, like the novelty of the All Star

993
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 3: Game you talking about, Yeah, the mystique of like seeing

994
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: the players whatever, and then when you talk about the game,

995
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:12,879
Speaker 3: the game is not as competitive because the guys are

996
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 3: making so much money that they're making business decisions. Is

997
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: it worth me going hard in this game to risk

998
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 3: injury when I'm making hover much fifty to fifty five million, Yeah,

999
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 3: I'm not going to play hard. I'm not going to

1000
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,640
Speaker 3: give the fans the competitive game that they want to

1001
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,879
Speaker 3: see because it's not worth it to me to put

1002
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 3: myself out there like that. And I think we as

1003
00:47:34,440 --> 00:47:38,439
Speaker 3: the public, we have to understand that and just taking

1004
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 3: for what it is.

1005
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 4: It's an exhibition, have fun with it.

1006
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 3: I know everybody wants to go back to yesteryear, but

1007
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:45,840
Speaker 3: that's never going to happen again. Like it's not going

1008
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 3: to happen. Like that's just not what we're going to

1009
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 3: be dealing with going forward.

1010
00:47:48,920 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 2: Just kind of be a better way. I mean, I

1011
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: loved it when they had the East versus the West.

1012
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 2: Then they change it that they had captains picking guys

1013
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:59,840
Speaker 2: on their team. Now they got the farm players against

1014
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,480
Speaker 2: the the American players. They can't get it right. The

1015
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 2: point is this, if they're not going to go out

1016
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: full speed one hundred percent, I don't care if they

1017
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,520
Speaker 2: play with no clothes on. Really, it doesn't make a

1018
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 2: difference who the competition is because if they're not playing hard. Really,

1019
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:16,359
Speaker 2: if you don't play hard, no one cares who you're

1020
00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 2: playing against. That's the name of the game. You got

1021
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:20,439
Speaker 2: to play the game hard, as if you really want

1022
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 2: to play, you want to be there. If you don't

1023
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: want to be there, don't even have a game, then

1024
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 2: don't have one. Yeah, I mean, at least the Major

1025
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:32,799
Speaker 2: League Baseball All Star Game at least is somewhat competitive.

1026
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: Of only the All Star games NFL, forget about that.

1027
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: The Pro bowls ridiculous. Forget that NBA All Star Game

1028
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: was up there. Now that's crapper. It's in the cropper too.

1029
00:48:42,280 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: But Baseball at least is pretty is pretty good. The

1030
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 2: Baseball All Star Game is not bad. But the NBA

1031
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: they gotta do something. They really do, I mean, and

1032
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:53,120
Speaker 2: they are I was still think they're the greatest athletes

1033
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: in the world. They really are what they do on

1034
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: a nightly basis. But still, if they're not playing hard,

1035
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: it's terrible. It's it's hard to watch, it's painful to watch.

1036
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 2: It really is.

1037
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm look, I'm with you on that. Like it

1038
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 3: hasn't been, uh, the greatest thing to watch.

1039
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,000
Speaker 4: I agree with you on that.

1040
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 3: I understand the frustration that you and many of the

1041
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,640
Speaker 3: fans have when it comes to watching it. It hasn't

1042
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 3: been a great product to watch. But I don't know

1043
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: how they can change it, right, like, like, I think

1044
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 3: we have to lower our expectations for the competitiveness, the

1045
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:35,879
Speaker 3: competitiveness of the game, and we have to urge the players, Hey,

1046
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: give us a little more effort, man, Like make this

1047
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 3: at least compelling in some regard.

1048
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 2: You know, yeah, yeah, you know it. Answer me, is

1049
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? Because when Caitlin Clark was

1050
00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:53,440
Speaker 2: playing for Iowa, I drove from my home to Bloomington,

1051
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: Indiana to see her play. I would not drive from

1052
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,160
Speaker 2: my home to Indianapolis to see the Pacers play. Is

1053
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,799
Speaker 2: there something wrong with me? Because you know, certainly the

1054
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 2: Pacers to the NBA, they had a great team last year.

1055
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 2: This year the hurting, obviously their star players hurt. But

1056
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,479
Speaker 2: still in all, is there something wrong? I mean, maybe

1057
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: they don't have that star athlete that kind of has

1058
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,680
Speaker 2: like a magnet approach to magnetic to draw me in.

1059
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,759
Speaker 2: Is out the NBA They've missing that I don't know.

1060
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 2: Why would I drive up to see Kaitlyn Clark and

1061
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 2: I won't go see the Pacers play.

1062
00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.

1063
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: I don't know why you do that and you're gonna

1064
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 3: go see Kaitlyn Clark, right, maybe you have a thing

1065
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 3: against I mean, it's just different, you know, It's just

1066
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:39,879
Speaker 3: it's just I will say this, it's a different Uh,

1067
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:42,760
Speaker 3: it's a different hustle when it comes to these games

1068
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:44,280
Speaker 3: and what we're seeing.

1069
00:50:44,520 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 4: And you talked about you don't like it, you don't

1070
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:48,800
Speaker 4: like you don't like the way.

1071
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:51,440
Speaker 3: That it is trended and some of the things that

1072
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 3: we're seeing of late when it comes to these.

1073
00:50:54,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: All Star games NBA ball.

1074
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 3: I'll be honest with you, I can't remember the last

1075
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,960
Speaker 3: time I watched a full NBA game from beginning to end.

1076
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,680
Speaker 3: And I worry about that, Like I have teams, like

1077
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 3: maybe here's my team, but I yeah, I don't. I

1078
00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 3: don't know, man, It's just yeah, it's just a different

1079
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,279
Speaker 3: feel to the regular season and what we're seeing and

1080
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,160
Speaker 3: I just haven't gotten all the way into it yet.

1081
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:23,800
Speaker 2: In the playoffs, that's a different animal.

1082
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I mean, like I like playoffs and I

1083
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 3: think I think the urgency of those games certainly change

1084
00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 3: everything and there's more riding on it. But even takes

1085
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 3: to the late stages of the playoffs before you see

1086
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,160
Speaker 3: teams really really go all out.

1087
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,560
Speaker 2: You know, right, I'm with you right there. You know,

1088
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:48,239
Speaker 2: you're talked about athletes and sometimes they say something on

1089
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:51,040
Speaker 2: your ears perk up and this was really big this

1090
00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 2: I never met Joey Porter. How well do you know

1091
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 2: Joey Porter football?

1092
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 4: Do you casually? Just a casual, just casually.

1093
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 2: Story came out this week and it's on a podcast

1094
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: that Joey Porter said that Ben Roethlisberger was not a

1095
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,520
Speaker 2: good person. I mean that to me is a rarity

1096
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 2: when you talk about a guy that you played with

1097
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 2: and there's no there's no upside. I mean, he's finished playing,

1098
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,479
Speaker 2: they both finished playing. But to bring that up now,

1099
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: that means that this guy really was an s O B.

1100
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,919
Speaker 2: To still talk about him years after he retired, there's

1101
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 2: he's just a bad guy. Let's take a listen to

1102
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 2: the Cameron Heyward podcast with Joey Porter about Ben Roethlisberger.

1103
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 11: Go ahead seven definitely broke the brotherhood because.

1104
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 2: Like, that's the one I don't understand it's.

1105
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:40,920
Speaker 11: Seven dude that did that. We don't talk about it now.

1106
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 11: It is crazy, like like anybody should talk.

1107
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 12: He should never grab a microphone and really talk still

1108
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 12: a business because if we talk and still a business,

1109
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 12: his ass is foul of all foul. Like that he's dead.

1110
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 12: It's foul of all foul. He's not a good teammate.

1111
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 12: Won a Super Bowl?

1112
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:00,840
Speaker 11: Would he?

1113
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 12: But the person he's just not a good teammate. Like

1114
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 12: he knows that. Anybody in the Stiller building knows that.

1115
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 12: What we protected him because.

1116
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 11: I've only won one super Bowl and that was my quarterback.

1117
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:16,440
Speaker 11: So do I love my quarterback?

1118
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1119
00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 11: But is he a good person?

1120
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 10: No?

1121
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 2: Amazing. I mean that's pretty steep. But you know what,

1122
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 2: I remember when he played for Miami University in Oxford, Ohio,

1123
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 2: he was suspended for four games in the NFL for

1124
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: a personal conduct Multiple women accused him of misconduct. He

1125
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:33,920
Speaker 2: had some problems in Oxford as well, you know like that,

1126
00:53:34,520 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 2: and I never respected him as a player. Yes, and

1127
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 2: they won, but he had some great teammates with him

1128
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,359
Speaker 2: around him. But for a teammate to come out there

1129
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 2: and just say he wasn't a good guy, just not

1130
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 2: a good teammate. I mean, they say he wasn't even

1131
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: signing autograss for the player's kids. I mean, come on,

1132
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 2: is that much of an ego maniac that he was?

1133
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I mean, did you know anything

1134
00:53:58,080 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 2: a little about Are you close to Ben Rothers? Did

1135
00:54:00,239 --> 00:54:01,960
Speaker 2: you see he talked to him? Have you seen that

1136
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 2: in him?

1137
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: I would just say, without even addressing like the allegations

1138
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:12,439
Speaker 3: are the things that led him to get suspended under

1139
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: the conduct policy, I would just say I always felt

1140
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 3: like he was kind of fouled when it came to

1141
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 3: team business, the way that he acted, the way that

1142
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 3: he wouldn't help out Mason Rudolph when Rudolph was a

1143
00:54:26,120 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 3: backup quarterback, the way that he was kind of dismissive

1144
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 3: of some of the coaches, and those things. He always

1145
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: carried himself a little differently than you would kind of

1146
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,719
Speaker 3: envision your best players and best teammates carrying themselves. But

1147
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,239
Speaker 3: the league is full of a bunch of guys with

1148
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 3: different personalities in those things. And he was a great player,

1149
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:51,120
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame player, but that still doesn't absolve you

1150
00:54:51,160 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 3: from being a jerk. And as Joey Porter has said,

1151
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 3: their stories kind of stories out there from his teammates

1152
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 3: about him being him in terms of Ben Roethlisberger being him. Yeah,

1153
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 3: Joey Porter just revealed it, so I appreciate it.

1154
00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:05,799
Speaker 2: It's amazing. Though. He came out and he said that

1155
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,919
Speaker 2: this Pittsburgh Steelers gave him a center of course, said

1156
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 2: that I had never played center before for his final year. Now,

1157
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: he apologized on that he's talked about. Said to Kendrick Green,

1158
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 2: I mean, I have never seen a guy to be

1159
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: a so aloof and such a mean sob to various teammates.

1160
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,200
Speaker 2: And I don't understand that he would not sign autograms

1161
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 2: for teammates family members during his rookie year and Joey

1162
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 2: Porter was the team captain at the time. He decided

1163
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: to have a meeting. He said with Roethlisberger if he

1164
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: declined to sign something for defensive end Aaron Smith, I mean,

1165
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: how do you not do that? Have you ever ever

1166
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 2: played with a teammate that was like that? Ever?

1167
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 4: No, not like that.

1168
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:55,000
Speaker 3: That's crazy though, Like especially for rookie coming in, not

1169
00:55:55,160 --> 00:55:57,959
Speaker 3: like you're obligated to sign everything for every family member

1170
00:55:58,000 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 3: in those things.

1171
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: But like when we talk about being quote unquote family

1172
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 4: in the locker room kids.

1173
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 3: I mean, you're supposed to be down with that part

1174
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,319
Speaker 3: of it, Like that's a reasonable ask to hey, man,

1175
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 3: my kid is coming. He's a big fan. YadA YadA, YadA.

1176
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 3: That is man, that is crazy. I can't even I

1177
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:26,279
Speaker 3: get me understand how that could even happen, to be honest.

1178
00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 2: With you, you know, he was really quiet since his retirement,

1179
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 2: but during the season this year, about midway through the season,

1180
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: he came out and said that Mike Tomlin, the former

1181
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 2: coach of the Steelers, should become the Penn State new coach.

1182
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,239
Speaker 2: And then he has a podcast and he said he

1183
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:45,720
Speaker 2: was probably time for a change against Tomlin. I mean,

1184
00:56:46,040 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 2: the guy, to me, every time he opens his mouth,

1185
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,520
Speaker 2: he has a critic, a critique about somebody, a negative comment.

1186
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 2: I've never heard Ben Roethlisberger applaud or say something positive

1187
00:56:58,080 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 2: about anybody, about anybody at all. Really, I just I

1188
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: don't get it. Even this year, they brought all the

1189
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: lumbs back to Miami University A twenty five and O

1190
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,040
Speaker 2: when basketball they're right like twenty third in the country

1191
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 2: and they had whilely Zerbiac come back that all the

1192
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 2: guys come back. He never showed up, not that they

1193
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,120
Speaker 2: probably even wanted. Maybe they never invited him. I don't know.

1194
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: But to me, you're not even proud of the alma

1195
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 2: materi you played for, and Miami right now is the

1196
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,400
Speaker 2: only undefeated Division one team in basketball in the country.

1197
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:30,120
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I really don't. Amazing.

1198
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 4: Yes, that's that's that's interesting right there.

1199
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's he's a lot. I think everyone who knows

1200
00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 3: him understands how much of a pain he can be. Yeah,

1201
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:48,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's the best way to kind

1202
00:57:48,720 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 3: of put He's just he's just kind of a jerk.

1203
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: Now, before the Joey Porter podcast, have you heard stories

1204
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 2: about Ben Rose? Have you heard or is just for

1205
00:57:59,280 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 2: you as well?

1206
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: People know it's not people knew. That was just kind

1207
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 3: of confirmation you would hear things, But that was just

1208
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: final confirmation that he is kind of what we thought

1209
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 3: he was in terms of as a person, as a

1210
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 3: jerk or whatever. And that's fine because look, we look,

1211
00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,479
Speaker 3: somebody may say I'm a jerk out there, like they're

1212
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 3: any people who we who we played with.

1213
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 4: That can be a lot. But everyone just knew that

1214
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 4: seven was a lot.

1215
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 3: He was a lot to handle and it's unfortunate because

1216
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:31,960
Speaker 3: he is such a he was such a great player,

1217
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 3: he will go and be a yellow jacket guy.

1218
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:38,760
Speaker 4: Two super Bowls on his ledger. I mean, he's a

1219
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 4: lock to get in, but still doesn't change in terms

1220
00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,479
Speaker 4: of being a jerk.

1221
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,880
Speaker 2: I don't mean to put you on the spot, but

1222
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: I will. I mean, have you you have you played

1223
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: with someone who was that a loof? Not not even

1224
00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 2: a loof. You could be a loof, but you have

1225
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: to be a jerk. I mean even in college, have

1226
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,520
Speaker 2: you played with someone like that?

1227
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:04,520
Speaker 4: Nah?

1228
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 3: But I would say, like there are always different personality

1229
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 3: types that you're dealing with, right, and that's some of

1230
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 3: that is to be expected that guys are going to

1231
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 3: be kind of funny acting when it comes to certain things.

1232
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 4: Guys can be.

1233
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:27,560
Speaker 3: Prickly personality wise, but you played through it. Quarterbacks are

1234
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 3: always interesting because they've been elevated. They're viewed as like

1235
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: the representative of the team outside of the head coach

1236
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: and ownership, Like they're.

1237
00:59:35,560 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 4: The nets highest on the hierarchy, so sometimes they can

1238
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:42,800
Speaker 4: not use that power wisely.

1239
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: But I can't say that I've played with anybody that

1240
00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: is that is a jerk. I would say the people

1241
00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:51,200
Speaker 3: that I'm surprised that who were cool who may have changed.

1242
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 3: I would say, like Brett Favre so cool as a player.

1243
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 3: I was there in Green Bay when he won three

1244
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: straight MVPs and some of the stuff that has happened,

1245
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: like post retirement, some of the stuff that he said.

1246
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 3: It's hard for me to imagine him as a teammate

1247
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:07,960
Speaker 3: being this person because he didn't appear to be that

1248
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:10,440
Speaker 3: person in the locker room. Maybe he was a bit

1249
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 3: of a chameleon when it came to that, but he

1250
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 3: never appeared to be those things. He was always the

1251
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 3: guy that got along with everybody, no matter what level

1252
01:00:18,680 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: uh employee you were, like the equipment guys or whatever.

1253
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 4: Was always fun loving.

1254
01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 3: And since he's gotten older, he hasn't become He's become

1255
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,919
Speaker 3: a little feistier, a little pricklier, and stuff like that.

1256
01:00:30,120 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 4: And so that's a little uncommon.

1257
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 2: Okay, I go, I gotta ask you have you were

1258
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 2: you a big fan of the ABA the American Basketball Association?

1259
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 2: Did you follow that at all with your two years?

1260
01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:41,560
Speaker 3: I mean when I was a kid, No, when I

1261
01:00:41,600 --> 01:00:43,640
Speaker 3: was a kid coming up, I do remember I remember

1262
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 3: the guy the people that played in it, like I

1263
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 3: remember Doctor j and George McInnis and the people that

1264
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:49,600
Speaker 3: came over.

1265
01:00:49,600 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 4: So yeah, I know about the ABA.

1266
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,520
Speaker 2: The reason I bring that up a boy. Amazon Prime

1267
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:55,680
Speaker 2: had like a four part featured at start of the

1268
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 2: other night about the history of the ABA, which I loved,

1269
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 2: who was great. I watched it, and you talk about

1270
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 2: guys who were aloof and kind of crazy. I'm talking

1271
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 2: about the Denver Rockets before the Denver Nuggets. H the

1272
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: Denver Rockets and the ABA and Larry Brown, And I

1273
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 2: was gonna call Larry, but I'm not gonna wake them

1274
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,200
Speaker 2: up at this hour of the day. But Larry Brown

1275
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 2: played for the Denver Rockets, right, he played for them.

1276
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:18,080
Speaker 2: He's a great coach, no doubt about that. But he

1277
01:01:18,120 --> 01:01:20,760
Speaker 2: played for the Denver Rockets. And his teammate I forgot

1278
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,000
Speaker 2: the name, but I'll watch it again on Amazon Prime,

1279
01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,920
Speaker 2: who was an African American. He says, I'm your teammate,

1280
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 2: but I hate white people. And after we get off

1281
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 2: the court, I'll never talk to you again. I'm not

1282
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna be with you. I'm not gonna socialize with you.

1283
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 2: We'll play together as teammates, but I hate you and

1284
01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: I hate Whites. I mean, I found that to be

1285
01:01:36,760 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: somewhat amusing. But you talk about crazy people. They had

1286
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,200
Speaker 2: some nut jobs in the ABA, but this guy was

1287
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:44,480
Speaker 2: one of the nuttiest they really was. If you get

1288
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 2: a chance, it's on Amazon Prime, The History of the ABA,

1289
01:01:47,640 --> 01:01:51,080
Speaker 2: four part series. I thought it was great, really was amazing.

1290
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, look, I'm telling you you have all

1291
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:59,760
Speaker 3: different types in the league, in every league, and you

1292
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 3: had adapt and adjusts. The one thing about sports we

1293
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,760
Speaker 3: talked about it earlier, typically you can play around those things,

1294
01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:11,000
Speaker 3: you know, like typically like everyone ends up focusing on

1295
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Speaker 3: the main thing, which is the team in winning, as

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Speaker 3: opposed to some of the individual stuff. And then you

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Speaker 3: find along the way that even though you may have

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Speaker 3: differences in terms of a bunch of different things, you

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Speaker 3: still in your heart of hearts, everyone gets along because

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Speaker 3: they know the core of the person.

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Speaker 2: Right there, you go, just like us, we do get along.

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Speaker 2: We all get along here, that's for sure, no doubt

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Speaker 2: about that. He's Bucket Brooks. Get him on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Bucket Brooks. Had Andy fermat FSR comments Always Welcome at

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox, which is eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven nine nine six sixty three sixty nine at

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Speaker 2: the playing game at the end of this hour, and

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Speaker 2: we question this, who will star in the sports most

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Speaker 2: important position that.

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Speaker 1: You listen no, Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: All right, Don Lemma in college basketball. We'll explain that

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Speaker 2: in just about a minute. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm Andy Furman.

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Speaker 2: We are Fox Football Sunday at Fox Sports Radio. We

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Speaker 2: got the Blame game coming up at about ten twelve

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. We're live for the Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: Countdown presented by BETMGM every Saturday and Sunday morning right

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Speaker 2: here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. All right,

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Speaker 2: let's do this because Bucky Brooks obviously always the leader

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Speaker 2: of the pack. Yes, he is rolling me by that.

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Speaker 2: We're talking about the next Super Bowl champion on NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com. You're ahead of the You're ahead of everybody.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're still talking about the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: you're looking in next year. I love it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I don't know how you do it. You're the best

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Speaker 2: at that. I always say, you missed the football NFL

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Speaker 2: dot Com this week. How do you do this? How

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Speaker 2: do you pick this? And why the choices that you picked? Obviously,

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Speaker 2: I think you picked the Seattle Super Bowl. Seattle Sea

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Speaker 2: looks number one, the defending Super Bowl champions. But the

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Speaker 2: teams that are in there, how do you do that

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Speaker 2: at this stage of the game.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean it's a tricky deal, right, because

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Speaker 3: you do the Super Bowl windows. You're trying to look

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Speaker 3: at the teams that are bringing the most amount of

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Speaker 3: players back and critical positions who are also well positioned

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Speaker 3: to make a splash and free agency of the draft

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Speaker 3: based on the capitol that they have. The Seattle Seahawks

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Speaker 3: certainly have to come back as a favorite to go

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Speaker 3: back to back, just based on every.

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Speaker 4: One day return.

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Speaker 3: I know you lose Clint Kubiak and those things, but

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Speaker 3: when you have everything in place, it gives you a chance.

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Speaker 3: And then you think about the six of the teams

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Speaker 3: that included, There's something about the structure the team they

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Speaker 3: return and the experience of the pedigree that they have

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Speaker 3: that led me to put them on the list.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm looking at the list and like, there's no

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Speaker 2: surprises really because you got the Rams, the Patriots, you

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Speaker 2: got the Eagles right there, the Broncos, all these teams

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Speaker 2: that are the Bears. So those are the Jacksonville Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: These are the teams that well competitive this year and

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Speaker 2: certainly probably will be competitive next year. I want to

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Speaker 2: know why teams like New Orleans, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Kansas City,

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Speaker 2: how cout that out on your list? Why wouldn't they

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Speaker 2: make a little run next year?

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Speaker 4: I mean, it's just unexpected right now. They're just not

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Speaker 4: on the radar to do it.

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati, you think about them being so heavy on one

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Speaker 3: side of the ball on offense, but defensively they haven't

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Speaker 3: been up to snuff. The Kansas City Chiefs, there's gonna

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Speaker 3: be a bit of a reset. Eric the enemy comes over,

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Speaker 3: a lot of new coaches, a lot of new players

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Speaker 3: are going to have to fill in, and Pat Mahomes

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Speaker 3: dealing with an ACL How does that impact this game?

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Speaker 3: That makes it hard? Then there are other teams that

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Speaker 3: have been affected. Baltimore Ravens doing a reset, jesse mentor

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Speaker 3: coming over new coaching staff, new culture, new everything. How

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Speaker 3: can you fully bank on them being what they've been?

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Speaker 3: And you know, so that's why you don't go with those.

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Speaker 3: But ultimately, what we do know there are always some surprises.

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Speaker 3: Seattle Seahawks weren't on this list, they weren't under radar

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Speaker 3: last year and they became the champ. There's gonna be

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Speaker 3: some others doing The Patriots were left for dead and

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Speaker 3: brings him back to life. So you never know. But

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Speaker 3: here the educated guesses the guys that I would if

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Speaker 3: I could wager a buck or two on who's gonna

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Speaker 3: be in the super Bowl next year, these are the

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Speaker 3: seventeams I would select.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my question is this because I almost feel sorry

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Speaker 2: for the Cleveland Brown fans. They wait, they wait, they wait.

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Speaker 2: They've never seen the Super Bowl except on TV. Is

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Speaker 2: it a possibility A with a new coach, B maybe

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Speaker 2: with Deshaun Watson coming back. I don't know if Deshaun

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Speaker 2: Watson's healthy. He's going to play over shoulder standards? Why

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Speaker 2: not because he's better at this stage. It's because of

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Speaker 2: the money they're paying him. They want to put they

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Speaker 2: want to get some work out of the guy. I believe.

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Speaker 2: So if Deshaun Watson goes back healthy, is there a

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Speaker 2: chance that the Cleveland Browns could make some noise.

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Speaker 3: I will say this about Deshaun Watson, depending on how

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Speaker 3: he plays and what he looks like, it'll be an

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Speaker 3: open competition between him and shadur If he does win it,

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Speaker 3: I feel confident that Todd Munkin would give him the

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Speaker 3: best chance to succeed. Ultimately, it'd be on Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 3: I can't say that he was always in the best

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Speaker 3: position to succeed in Cleveland under Kevin Stefanski. I just

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Speaker 3: don't feel like the system job with his game. But

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Speaker 3: we'll see. It's been a long time since DeShawn Watson

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Speaker 3: has played at an elite level twenty twenty. We have

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Speaker 3: to go all the way back to when he played

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Speaker 3: his best. Then he set out, then he was traded,

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Speaker 3: then to trade him nothing because he had a teen

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Speaker 3: game suspension, didn't play well, injuries, all those things.

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Speaker 4: We'll see.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is a long time in between like

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Speaker 3: good play. But look, I give him credit for the

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Speaker 3: diligent work that you put in. We'll see if he

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Speaker 3: can beat out Shudoe Sanders in camp.

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Speaker 2: Okay, but what's the difference between Deshaun Watson, who had

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Speaker 2: a good skill set when he played to come back

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Speaker 2: and pick that right up and Derek Carr. We talked

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Speaker 2: about it earlier today. He's been out for a while

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Speaker 2: with an injury. I mean, could he come back and

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Speaker 2: do it? I mean, I would think that if Derek

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Speaker 2: Coff with DeShawn Wats could do it.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 3: The thing is Derek Carr we've seen play decent Paul recently.

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Speaker 3: We haven't seen Deshaun Watson play decently in a long time.

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Speaker 3: And there I mean, look, it's a bit of a

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Speaker 3: gamble anytime you're away from it, Like there's some rust

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Speaker 3: that accumulates on the game.

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Speaker 4: Can he shake that off?

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Speaker 3: I mean, the only time to tell, But yes, it's

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Speaker 3: an issue, like both of those are gambles. And I

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Speaker 3: wasn't convinced that. Look, hey, Derek Carr be a start

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Speaker 3: when he comes back. I said, I can see him

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Speaker 3: coming back, and why he would come back because the

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Speaker 3: business decision it would fiscally makes sense. But his game

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Speaker 3: has been littered with some inconsistencies as well. Uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: But for Deshaun Watson, he has to knock that off.

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Speaker 3: He has knocked it in game actually has to show

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Speaker 3: pop he can move around and with an achilles, we

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Speaker 3: just don't know how limited he is going to be

1438
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Speaker 3: when it comes to, you know, being robbed of some

1439
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Speaker 3: of his superpowers which were using his legs.

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Speaker 2: And lay off the massages too. Really, no comment, I

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Speaker 2: get it A lot.

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Speaker 4: Lot, lot, a lot to deal with, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, I'm going to move to college football for a second.

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Speaker 2: Big Ten. They want a twenty fourth team college football

1445
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Speaker 2: playoff plan with no league title games. Go to a band.

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Speaker 2: I kind of like that. I mean, you know, go

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01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 2: out there, get your record intact, and then move on

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Speaker 2: and go to the playoffs. We don't need a league

1449
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Speaker 2: title game. And then that's going to basically down the

1450
01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 2: road to eliminate all the ball games because they're dying

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:30,000
Speaker 2: one by one anyway, Right, I kind of like that deal.

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? I've always said that the college football playoffs should

1454
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,679
Speaker 3: mirror what we see at the collegiate levels, or even

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01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 3: better yet, what we see at the lower NCAA levels.

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Speaker 3: Sixteen twenty fourteen playoff season ends, Let's get it cranking

1457
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 3: the next weekend. Let's make you run through the gallet

1458
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 3: to win the title. Let's finish this up by the

1459
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Speaker 3: time the calendar flips. We can finish it up on

1460
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Speaker 3: January first, for all life here. But hey, once it's done,

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Speaker 3: it's done. The portal opens, we started over, and we

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Speaker 3: go again. There's no reason why it should bleed into

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Speaker 3: the next calendar year. No reason, not when most games

1464
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:08,360
Speaker 3: most seasons in at Thanksgiving, like, we should.

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Speaker 4: Be able to go.

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Speaker 3: And I believe the coaches would prefer it because you

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01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:14,040
Speaker 3: don't have the extended breaks in between games.

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Speaker 4: Man, let's knock this out. Let's rock and roll. Let's

1469
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Speaker 4: get it going.

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Speaker 3: And I know people talk about the money and some

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Speaker 3: of the sites and they're gonna lose.

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Speaker 4: All right, Well, if we want to have.

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Speaker 3: Home games for the first game, maybe the first two,

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01:10:26,360 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 3: and then have like neutral sites for the semis and

1475
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 3: finals or neutrals for the quarters, semis and whatever it is,

1476
01:10:33,960 --> 01:10:35,639
Speaker 3: but the first round should be at home and let

1477
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Speaker 3: those people feel the energy of being in the playoffs.

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Speaker 4: That's part of the fun.

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01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 3: The Bowl games are the bowl games, and we can

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01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 3: have I mean, if they want to deem it the

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01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 3: Toilet Bowl Championship like a Constellation bracket where all those

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:49,920
Speaker 3: teams go down there and play and do that. Cool,

1483
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:53,880
Speaker 3: but we should not be beholden to the bowl system

1484
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:55,880
Speaker 3: if it's going to prevent us from watching the best

1485
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 3: teams play.

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01:10:57,160 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 2: Right, And I'm going to say this, going to another

1487
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 2: conference right now? Oh have the mighty have fallen? I

1488
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:05,960
Speaker 2: remember the days when the Pac twelve was a mighty conference, UCLA,

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01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 2: USC whatever it may be, the Pac twelve conference.

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Speaker 6: Date.

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Speaker 2: Now they're saying the Pac twelve is back. Are you kidding?

1492
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:14,759
Speaker 2: Oregon State, Washington State, get this. They're gonna be joined

1493
01:11:14,760 --> 01:11:18,679
Speaker 2: by I'm almost embarrassed to say, Boise State, Colorado State,

1494
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:22,880
Speaker 2: Fresno State, San Diego State, Texas State. I didn't even

1495
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:26,040
Speaker 2: know Texas State had a football team, and Utah State, Okay,

1496
01:11:26,160 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 2: an eight team league in the PAC twelve. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Really really yeah, I like it. They're back. Yeah, I

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01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 4: like it. Back, like it, it's back. The ball is back.

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Speaker 3: Do some of those things and get it because look,

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01:11:41,200 --> 01:11:43,800
Speaker 3: it's been a big cashcout for USC and UCLA to

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01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 3: go to the Big ten, but it ain't been a

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01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 3: whole lot of winning. And now that the Big ten,

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01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 3: a big whatever, PA packed ten, eight, whatever we call it,

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Speaker 3: is back, it should be fun to watch these teams

1506
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:57,839
Speaker 3: get together. We've also seen the consolidation of Mountain West

1507
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:00,000
Speaker 3: and the MAC. I think the MAC has picked up

1508
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:03,280
Speaker 3: Sacramento State. This is what we're going to We're gonna

1509
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,920
Speaker 3: start seeing the bigs and the littles. I don't know

1510
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 3: if in Ohio they have like the big school championships

1511
01:12:09,680 --> 01:12:11,720
Speaker 3: and the little school championships, but that's what we're gonna see.

1512
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,840
Speaker 3: We're gonna see the power for have their own championship,

1513
01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 3: and we may see the group of five have their

1514
01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:21,040
Speaker 3: own championship. And if they do that, look I would

1515
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,639
Speaker 3: love it, and I think some of those schools would

1516
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:25,880
Speaker 3: also love it, because if you recognized as the little

1517
01:12:25,880 --> 01:12:29,679
Speaker 3: school national champ or the big school national champ, doesn't matter,

1518
01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:30,559
Speaker 3: you're a champion.

1519
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,760
Speaker 4: I think everyone can respect them.

1520
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,080
Speaker 2: I agree. Can they change then eight to the Pack

1521
01:12:34,160 --> 01:12:37,200
Speaker 2: eight instead of PAC twelve, Well, I mean maybe they're

1522
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,479
Speaker 2: too cheap to change the stationary. Maybe that's it. I

1523
01:12:39,479 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 2: don't know. It's ridiculous, the Pack eight, that's what it is, right.

1524
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 3: I mean, there's a lot of stationary. Man, we print

1525
01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 3: out a lot of notebooks and worksheets and all that.

1526
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:51,880
Speaker 3: Like to change will be Yeah, it'll be a lot.

1527
01:12:52,439 --> 01:12:54,720
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. And last, but not least, Okay, we

1528
01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 2: talked about the dilemma in college basketball. Here's the deal.

1529
01:12:57,720 --> 01:13:01,160
Speaker 2: Miami of Ohio, Miami University of Ohio, Oxford, Ohio. They're

1530
01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,760
Speaker 2: twenty five and zero. There remain the lone unbeaten d

1531
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:08,400
Speaker 2: one team in the nation in the nation. Okay, However,

1532
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:11,640
Speaker 2: they play in the Mid American Conference and normally the

1533
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,320
Speaker 2: team that wins the MAC Tournament goes to the NCAA tournament,

1534
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: the March Madness, and they usually take one team. What

1535
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 2: happens if they don't win the MAC Tournament? Are they

1536
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 2: not going to be invited? I would think if they

1537
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,719
Speaker 2: finished the regular season undefeated and maybe they get bounced

1538
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: out of the MAC Tournament, well, I think they'll still

1539
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,280
Speaker 2: get invited. You got to invite that team, right, I

1540
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 2: would think. So they'll take two teams maybe from the

1541
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,599
Speaker 2: MAC this year. What do you think on that?

1542
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure they're going, right, you're undefeated for

1543
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 3: this long, You're probably going to.

1544
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 4: To the playoffs.

1545
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,200
Speaker 3: Like I think it would be hard for the NCAA

1546
01:13:49,320 --> 01:13:52,120
Speaker 3: to justify leaving them out when they've been undefeated for

1547
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:56,639
Speaker 3: the entire year. But it just means if they lose

1548
01:13:56,680 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 3: in a tournament, it means a team that could have

1549
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 3: been in is gonna mess out because an unherded MAC

1550
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:08,080
Speaker 3: team has taken over and is, you know, kind of

1551
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:10,760
Speaker 3: taking their spot. I don't know how much fun that is,

1552
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,559
Speaker 3: but that's that's the reality of the situation.

1553
01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: You know. I watched the game they played Friday night.

1554
01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: They played o'hire you on Friday night and they won.

1555
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:19,360
Speaker 2: They won't big they want to buy about May twenty,

1556
01:14:19,400 --> 01:14:22,640
Speaker 2: I think it was, And I'm saying myself, it's a

1557
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 2: great it's a pleasure to watch them play. They pass well, Uh,

1558
01:14:26,160 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 2: they played good defense, they shoot the lights out of

1559
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:31,160
Speaker 2: the ball. A great energy on that team. And then

1560
01:14:31,160 --> 01:14:32,960
Speaker 2: I said to them myself, you know what have those

1561
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:34,920
Speaker 2: guys won't be there next year. They're twenty five to

1562
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,920
Speaker 2: zero and you got the big time D one school

1563
01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 2: coaches drooling with these guys probably in the portal and

1564
01:14:41,439 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 2: they'll be out of there getting big checks to go

1565
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:45,000
Speaker 2: to one other school next year, don't you agree.

1566
01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,400
Speaker 3: Uh, Yeah, there's gonna be some of that. That's what

1567
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 3: we're seeing more of. We're seeing more of gas kind

1568
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 3: of moving up the ranks where they start, and then

1569
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:58,160
Speaker 3: they just kind of continue to climb in the sand.

1570
01:14:58,240 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 2: I don't blame them. I don't blame the thanks for

1571
01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 2: doing that. You would know.

1572
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 4: I mean, that's just that's the way it goes.

1573
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:10,120
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess the opportunities there, Yeah, like you

1574
01:15:10,120 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 3: move up.

1575
01:15:10,840 --> 01:15:11,759
Speaker 4: I just think it's weird.

1576
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,680
Speaker 3: It's so weird, like how everyone bounces around. It's just

1577
01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,439
Speaker 3: like I'm still trying to adjust because it's such a

1578
01:15:18,520 --> 01:15:21,920
Speaker 3: different world than the world of college football that we're

1579
01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,760
Speaker 3: used to seeing. But hey, that's what it is. And

1580
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:26,840
Speaker 3: so guys are taking advantage of those opportunities.

1581
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:29,600
Speaker 2: You told about guys bouncing around. I can't even remember that.

1582
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:33,040
Speaker 2: What teams, what conferences they're in there bouncing around? Really,

1583
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: you know, Boise State in the Pac twelve, Come on, really,

1584
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: it's crazy, unbelievable. He's Bucky Brooks. How many Firman with

1585
01:15:39,200 --> 01:15:41,080
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1586
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:42,760
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1588
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1590
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1591
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1592
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1593
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,400
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1594
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 6: Time to rip and roar. The blame Game is. Fox

1595
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1596
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Speaker 2: All right, the blame Game coming right up. He's Bucky Brooks.

1599
01:16:22,960 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 2: I'm Andy Furman. We're live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1600
01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,559
Speaker 2: We're about twelve minutes now for the top of the hour.

1601
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:29,920
Speaker 2: That's eight am on the East Coast, and of course

1602
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 2: you'll have Mike harmon the Swollen Dome and Greg Cosell

1603
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,200
Speaker 2: at the top of the hour. That's aight am and

1604
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:40,920
Speaker 2: the East Coast Radio on Fox Sports Radio. By the way, Bucky,

1605
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,760
Speaker 2: there's nothing better than getting some praise. And right now,

1606
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 2: Anthony Albert just texted us and he said, I love

1607
01:16:46,880 --> 01:16:50,600
Speaker 2: the old ABA, especially the Pittsburgh Pipers, the Pittsburgh Condors,

1608
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: John Brisker, I watched all the games on CBS, Matt Calvin,

1609
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:58,760
Speaker 2: Zelmow Baby, doctor j Danisel, Julius Irving, Rip Barry, etc.

1610
01:16:59,400 --> 01:17:02,120
Speaker 2: And it gives an A plus show this morning. Thank

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01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 2: you double a Anthony Albert for listening to our show

1612
01:17:04,840 --> 01:17:07,200
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. But right now it's time for

1613
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:08,479
Speaker 2: the Plain game.

1614
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:12,599
Speaker 1: You ruined me. It's all your fault. No, it's your fault?

1615
01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:12,920
Speaker 8: Right?

1616
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:16,520
Speaker 2: Is them all your fault?

1617
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 1: Maybe it's everyone's fault. Who knows the liar? That's why

1618
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: there's the Blaine game, the blame game.

1619
01:17:23,439 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 2: Let's figure out who to blame the blame.

1620
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 5: G b D.

1621
01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,759
Speaker 2: You ready, b D? I am ready.

1622
01:17:28,840 --> 01:17:32,160
Speaker 10: So the NBA has a tanking problem, if anybody hasn't

1623
01:17:32,200 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 10: noticed that yet. The other night, the Pacers sat out

1624
01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 10: all five starters in Brooklyn still beat the Nets one

1625
01:17:38,040 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 10: hundred and fifteen to one ten, and then the Utah

1626
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 10: Jazz famously were fined half half a million dollars for

1627
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:49,000
Speaker 10: not playing Lori markin In, Jared Jackson Junior, who eventually

1628
01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:52,560
Speaker 10: is out for the season, and a few other players

1629
01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:55,840
Speaker 10: the other night as well, how do you stop this?

1630
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 10: What is Adam Silver supposed to do?

1631
01:17:59,040 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 2: Bucky?

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01:18:01,000 --> 01:18:03,000
Speaker 4: I think the only thing they can do is hit

1633
01:18:03,040 --> 01:18:05,120
Speaker 4: him in the pockets. And they've been trying to do that.

1634
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:07,840
Speaker 4: It just hasn't been successful.

1635
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:11,679
Speaker 3: I mean, you encourage everybody with competitive equity and those things,

1636
01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:12,000
Speaker 3: but you.

1637
01:18:11,960 --> 01:18:12,800
Speaker 4: Can't make people play.

1638
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 3: And then if you're the paces, you don't start your

1639
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,080
Speaker 3: people and then you still win. What does that say

1640
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:20,760
Speaker 3: about the other team right that are playing. I mean

1641
01:18:20,760 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: you try and get everyone to play, but as long

1642
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:28,240
Speaker 3: as you have this system that rewards the losers with

1643
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:30,760
Speaker 3: ping pong balls, I mean, you always don't have this.

1644
01:18:31,760 --> 01:18:33,840
Speaker 2: Well, I will say this. You know you're right. I

1645
01:18:33,880 --> 01:18:36,719
Speaker 2: heard BD say they find Utah half a million. Look,

1646
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:39,519
Speaker 2: the franchise is worth four or five six million dollars

1647
01:18:40,160 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: seven million. What's a half a MILLI nothing? So you

1648
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: either have to do one of two things. Take away

1649
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 2: some draft picks. Okay, that's the key. Well, I want

1650
01:18:47,720 --> 01:18:50,960
Speaker 2: to know why this never really happened under David Stern.

1651
01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:54,639
Speaker 2: It only happens under Adam Silver. Adam Silver is totally

1652
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:58,759
Speaker 2: destroying that league. It's Adam Silver's problem. Really fix it, Adam,

1653
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,639
Speaker 2: you're a commissioner. Disgusting. The guys are paying big money

1654
01:19:02,680 --> 01:19:05,240
Speaker 2: fans to watch games and they sit. The start is

1655
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: out and we're like bucket. Like you said, it's even

1656
01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 2: worse Indiana goes to Brooklyn, sits out the starting five

1657
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 2: and they still beat the Brooklyn Nets. It's unbelievable.

1658
01:19:12,880 --> 01:19:15,200
Speaker 10: And that happened to the Jazz too. They won a

1659
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:17,800
Speaker 10: game when they set their starters in the fourth quarter

1660
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 10: as well, and still got fined for that game.

1661
01:19:20,240 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 2: There was there was that rumor.

1662
01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:23,600
Speaker 10: I wanted to ask you guys about that. There was

1663
01:19:23,640 --> 01:19:26,840
Speaker 10: that rumor that, you know, I don't know if it'll

1664
01:19:26,840 --> 01:19:28,640
Speaker 10: come into fruition. I'm sure they'll talk about it. But

1665
01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:31,760
Speaker 10: the teams that are in the lottery playing against each

1666
01:19:31,800 --> 01:19:34,760
Speaker 10: other in a tournament and then the winner getting the

1667
01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:38,960
Speaker 10: first overall pick for competitive nature, I am.

1668
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm make it. Make you earn it. Yeah,

1669
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:43,000
Speaker 3: you have to earn.

1670
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: It dad, stupid season tournament.

1671
01:19:45,680 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 10: Yes, yes, yeah, I agree with that one. I hope

1672
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:49,360
Speaker 10: that comes to fruition.

1673
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:50,080
Speaker 6: Uh.

1674
01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 10: Patriots left tackle Will Campbell says he played the season

1675
01:19:53,640 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 10: with the torn ligament in his knee. Who do you

1676
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:59,080
Speaker 10: blame that he was able that he played throughout the season.

1677
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 10: Of course, didn't play well in the Super Bowl.

1678
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he didn't play well in the Super Bowl, but

1679
01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,760
Speaker 3: some of that is a technical thing. Look, I give

1680
01:20:05,800 --> 01:20:07,479
Speaker 3: him credit for showing up in one to short for

1681
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,479
Speaker 3: his quarterback and his team in the postseason. Left tackle

1682
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: is hard, particularly when you're rookie and you're playing alongside

1683
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 3: another rookie.

1684
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,799
Speaker 4: Look, you got it exposed in a major.

1685
01:20:16,600 --> 01:20:18,320
Speaker 3: Way, but there are a lot of left tackles that

1686
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,559
Speaker 3: got exposed by the defense's deady face down the stretch.

1687
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 4: He'll get better.

1688
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 3: I think they have to avoid kind of punching the

1689
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 3: penny button. But look, you can have some struggles when

1690
01:20:27,720 --> 01:20:28,680
Speaker 3: you're rookie. We just saw it.

1691
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:29,960
Speaker 6: You know.

1692
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,840
Speaker 2: Initially I was gonna blame the training staff, and then

1693
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:34,760
Speaker 2: I was gonna say maybe the coach just wanted to

1694
01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 2: try to hide it. But you know what, it all

1695
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,800
Speaker 2: goes back to you. Will. You're an idiot. You play,

1696
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 2: you could even ruin your career. You play with a ligament.

1697
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:46,320
Speaker 2: It's your full It's on you. I'm gonna blame you. You

1698
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,479
Speaker 2: go to the coaches and say, look, I want to

1699
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,879
Speaker 2: be a loyal guy. I want to defend my school,

1700
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 2: my team, whatever, I want to be with my teammates.

1701
01:20:52,520 --> 01:20:55,759
Speaker 2: But still it's you. It's your body that your body

1702
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:57,680
Speaker 2: is your temple. That's what you make a living with.

1703
01:20:57,800 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 2: It's on you. It's your fault.

1704
01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 10: Look, well, w Willson all pro guard. He has his

1705
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 10: short arms. They're gonna stay with him the left tack

1706
01:21:05,160 --> 01:21:07,200
Speaker 10: and we'll see time and time will tell. I just

1707
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 10: I don't think it's gonna work out. Final question, the

1708
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:13,040
Speaker 10: quad God Ilam Mallinin placed eighth after falling twice in

1709
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,120
Speaker 10: the Olympic free skate.

1710
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 2: Who do you blames Brooks?

1711
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: Look, man, he just is on him because the thing

1712
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 3: about ice skating, figure skating is just you. He wasn't

1713
01:21:24,080 --> 01:21:26,160
Speaker 3: able to get it done. He'd been so great leading

1714
01:21:26,240 --> 01:21:28,640
Speaker 3: up to that, but it's how you perform in the

1715
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:29,320
Speaker 3: biggest moments.

1716
01:21:29,320 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 4: He didn't perform.

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01:21:29,960 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was gonna say this, I was

1718
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 2: gonna blame the media because I built him up as

1719
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 2: the quad god. But I will say this, he's a

1720
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:39,320
Speaker 2: very I don't know. I've watched him on TV what

1721
01:21:39,520 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: he did after he finished eighth. He went over to

1722
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 2: the kid who got the gold and shook his hand.

1723
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,720
Speaker 2: I thought to me, that was the classiest move I've

1724
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:50,160
Speaker 2: seen in sports in a long time. I mean, that's

1725
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 2: what it was. So I give him a lot of credit.

1726
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,479
Speaker 2: It's his fault. He didn't he didn't perform that he should,

1727
01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:57,760
Speaker 2: all right. Next up, we got Greg Kosell and Mike

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01:21:57,760 --> 01:21:59,000
Speaker 2: Harmon right here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: Stay with us,