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Speaker 5: And Ron wolf Sleep.

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Speaker 5: It just keeps getting better for Ron Wolfley going into

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Speaker 5: the holiday weekend. I mean, it's already been a good

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Speaker 5: day for you, Wolf.

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Speaker 5: When you've heard the words and I quote under center

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Speaker 5: and power scheme part of your interview earlier with Will Hernandez,

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Speaker 5: who really is your kindred spirit? As a three hundred

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Speaker 5: And then when Will Hernandez adds as part of your

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Speaker 5: good addition to the big red Rage presented by santan

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Speaker 5: Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford, our special guest

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Speaker 5: tonight Cardinals wide receivers coach and passing game coordinator Drew Terrell,

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Speaker 5: Paul Calvic, Ron Wolfley, and yes, Will Hernandez set a

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Speaker 5: tone today? Did he not Wolf?

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Speaker 1: He definitely did. Paul. He came walking in to the studio.

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Speaker 5: Redge presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert But batting leadoff

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Speaker 5: would be your head coach Jonathan Gannon. And guess what

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it, BALI. It really does right now.

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Speaker 5: Here's my one inkling too, by the way, just reading

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Speaker 4: Hurry in an empty set in Shotgun, takes a snap,

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Speaker 5: Hey, passion wolf n't kidding right there? That was a

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Speaker 5: Race presented by santan Ford and Gilbert Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Welcome home, Drew Mason Native, right.

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Speaker 8: No doubt.

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Speaker 9: Well born in Masa, but really really at Chandler Native.

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Speaker 5: And Chandler Hamilton. And what's it been like coming home,

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Speaker 9: Right, Yeah, that's probably the biggest negative is probably that

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Speaker 8: But it's all been extremely positive.

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Speaker 9: I Mean when I figured I had this opportunity to

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Speaker 8: You know, you want to get back as close to

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Speaker 9: But I never thought I would have the opportunity to

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Speaker 8: It's been awesome.

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Speaker 5: I mean, you see all the players families react on

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Speaker 9: I mean it was I remember when I got the

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Speaker 8: It was it was insane. It was awesome, excited to

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Speaker 5: Drew Trell is our guest right last three years with

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Speaker 8: Couldn't have written a better script?

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Speaker 8: Week one, go back to where you've been.

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Speaker 9: For three years, where you know, we had our daughter,

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Speaker 8: But couldn't write it any better. Of course, we're going there.

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Speaker 5: And we're going to get into the Cardinals receiver room

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Speaker 5: They described it as forty diverse coaching candidates with a

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Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a chance, you know, for the lead

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Speaker 5: Hey must have been an honor just to be selected.

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Speaker 5: I'm sure you've seen a lot of that on film.

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Speaker 5: Look We're familiar with Hollywood Brown. We just heard the highlight,

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Speaker 8: Year, right, Yeah?

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Speaker 5: And he played with Zach Ertz and I saw where

441
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Speaker 5: your first touchdown catch was from Andrew Locke. Oh yeah,

442
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Speaker 5: so you can name drop a little.

443
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Speaker 9: Yeah, make sure he tells Zach all of the team's

444
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Speaker 9: leading receiver, right, That's right. But but yeah, so I

445
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Speaker 9: knew about Mike early in the process, but I hadn't

446
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Speaker 9: really had a chance to really dive into his tape

447
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Speaker 9: and evaluate him until that process came. This offseason, and

448
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Speaker 9: when you dig into the tape, what you find is,

449
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Speaker 9: you know, a kid that's extremely detailed. You know, he's

450
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Speaker 9: got right athleticism, a great skill set, got good size,

451
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Speaker 9: moves really well for his size. But he was making

452
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Speaker 9: plays on tape to translate to this game. His play

453
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Speaker 9: speed was outstanding. He was attacking the football away from

454
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Speaker 9: his body. So that's the biggest thing when you're watching guys,

455
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Speaker 9: college guys on tape is how does their skill set

456
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Speaker 9: translate to this level and what we do? And you know,

457
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Speaker 9: Mike was checking boxes and then you go back and

458
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Speaker 9: you watch the Senior Bowl. You know what he was

459
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Speaker 9: able to do in truly competitive one on one situations

460
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Speaker 9: is you know, he was one of the top guys there,

461
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Speaker 9: and that tape showed up and you know, as we

462
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Speaker 9: got further along in the process, I had an opportunity

463
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Speaker 9: to speak with him a couple of times and he

464
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Speaker 9: would continued to check boxes. You know, he was smart,

465
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Speaker 9: he's engaging, he was locked in. You know all the

466
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Speaker 9: reports you got from Stanford where that he was a

467
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Speaker 9: tough kid, do whatever it took for the team, and

468
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Speaker 9: exactly the type of guy we're looking for. He just

469
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Speaker 9: happened to go to Stanford. Yeah, I'll tell you what.

470
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Speaker 5: He was two minutes into his first press commerce of

471
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Speaker 5: the media, I'm like, oh my goodness, he's a top

472
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Speaker 5: five interview on this team already. I mean, if he's

473
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Speaker 5: gonna make plays the same advanced level he meets, it's

474
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Speaker 5: the media. And then the Cardinals found something. In fact,

475
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Speaker 5: here's one of the comments he made to the media.

476
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Speaker 7: Whatever I get is what I'm going to earn. And

477
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Speaker 7: so if that's being a starting receiver, that's great. If

478
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Speaker 7: that's being a special teams guy, that's also great. If

479
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Speaker 7: that's being a backup receiver plus special team gun or roll,

480
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Speaker 7: whatever role that I carve out for myself, it's going

481
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Speaker 7: to be completely dependent on what I do on the

482
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Speaker 7: practice field, how I carry myself in the media room.

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Speaker 5: And he just looks the part. I mean, he's six

484
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Speaker 5: to two, he moves, so we'll see. I mean, obviously

485
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Speaker 5: it was rookie camp and some ota so far. How

486
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Speaker 5: about Zach Pascal though, another newcomer. Give us your first

487
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Speaker 5: impressions on a guy who's got the size obviously as

488
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Speaker 5: the physicality. He kind of got buried on that talented

489
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Speaker 5: Eagles team. Didn't need a lot of targets, but he

490
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Speaker 5: had a couple of really successful and productive years with

491
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Speaker 5: the Colts before that.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, I've got a ton of respect for ZP. You know,

493
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Speaker 9: he's done in his league, He's been productive in his league.

494
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Speaker 9: He's the consummate professional. He shows up every day. You're

495
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Speaker 9: getting the same guy. You're getting positive energy, You're getting

496
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Speaker 9: a guy that works and he's detailed about his job. Typically,

497
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Speaker 9: you know, when guys have success in the NFL for

498
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Speaker 9: you know, an extended period of time, they have the

499
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Speaker 9: little things figured out. They know how to take care

500
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Speaker 9: of their body, they know how to conduct themselves in

501
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Speaker 9: the meeting room. They know how to practice, which is

502
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Speaker 9: is something that takes guys a little bit to learn

503
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Speaker 9: and understand the importance of deliberate practice. And ZP is

504
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Speaker 9: a guy that's you know, he's been outstanding. He's been

505
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Speaker 9: really good for our room. We've got some young guys

506
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Speaker 9: in the room and he's a great example of you know, perseverance.

507
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Speaker 9: He was an undrafted guy, a guy to start off

508
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Speaker 9: on a practice squad, you know, became the Colts leading receiver.

509
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Speaker 9: Like you said, he was in Philly where they had

510
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Speaker 9: a you know, a pretty high profile room, but he's

511
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Speaker 9: a reliable guy.

512
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Speaker 8: Talked to the coaches there.

513
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Speaker 9: And I mean, they love ZP and it was tough

514
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Speaker 9: for them to lose them, but you know, their loss

515
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Speaker 9: is our game.

516
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Speaker 8: So I'm you know, I'm a ton of respect for ZP.

517
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Speaker 5: Glad we have and hey, DeAndre Hopkins still an unknown.

518
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Speaker 5: So now you look at guys like Hollywood Brown and

519
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:55,400
Speaker 5: Rondel Moore and Greg Dortch, and all those guys are burners.

520
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Speaker 5: I mean, those guys can all move. What have you

521
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Speaker 5: seen out of them? And how do you how do

522
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Speaker 5: you see them fitting into a droop pets and passing attack.

523
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Speaker 5: Is there a certain style that fans can expect this year?

524
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Speaker 8: Perhaps?

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Speaker 9: You know, I think we're still in those introductory phases of,

526
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Speaker 9: like I said, identifying what those guys do. Well, you know,

527
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Speaker 9: one thing that you can be sure of is that

528
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Speaker 9: we're going to try to maximize those guys' skill sets.

529
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Speaker 9: And you know what I've seen so far, those guys

530
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Speaker 9: have been outstanding. They've been locked in. You know, they're

531
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Speaker 9: working their tail off, they're trying as best they can

532
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Speaker 9: to grasp and learn, and they're asking the right questions

533
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Speaker 9: and something that I've been preaching is being extremely deliberate

534
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Speaker 9: with their thought process and the way they go about practice.

535
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Speaker 9: And those guys have have been outstanding in that regard,

536
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Speaker 9: and you know, I'm eager and excited to watch them

537
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Speaker 9: learn and grow and get more and more comfortable in

538
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Speaker 9: this offense. Because more comfortable they get, you know, the

539
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Speaker 9: more plays they're going to make. And they've done a

540
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Speaker 9: great job.

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Speaker 5: The fact that there's the uncertainty a quarterback with Kylo's injury,

542
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Speaker 5: how does that impact the receiver or does it? What

543
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Speaker 5: are you telling the guys, because there's it's going to

544
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Speaker 5: be a number of different you know, qbs thrown to

545
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Speaker 5: them over the next few months.

546
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Speaker 9: Yeah, it has no impact on our process or our preparation.

547
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 9: I could be playing quarterback out there. I expect them

548
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Speaker 9: to be running their routes the exact same way, same

549
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Speaker 9: splits on the right footwork at the depth. You know,

550
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Speaker 9: whatever that is, they cannot you cannot let that be

551
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Speaker 9: involved in your thought process because it's something that you

552
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Speaker 9: can't control.

553
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Speaker 8: You have no control over it.

554
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Speaker 9: You've got to focus on what our job is, what

555
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 9: our task is, and make the job easy on whoever

556
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Speaker 9: the quarterback is our.

557
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Speaker 5: Guest, Drew Terrell, Cardinals wide receivers coach. Last question, Jonathan Gannon,

558
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Speaker 5: do you believe the team takes on the personality of

559
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Speaker 5: its head coach?

560
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Speaker 8: I do.

561
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Speaker 5: What does that mean for this team?

562
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Speaker 9: It means this team could take off like a rocket.

563
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Speaker 9: I mean, that guy's got tremendous, legitimate energy. It's not

564
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Speaker 9: phony energy, it's not fake energy. JG's got a legitimate

565
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Speaker 9: excitement and a passion for this game and for serving players.

566
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Speaker 5: So and you think that's infectious, I believe wholeheartedly that's infectious.

567
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Speaker 5: I'll tell you what, a lot of these coaches have

568
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Speaker 5: a really good track record, including yourself, including that rolls

569
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Speaker 5: ball win you had for Stanford. I tell you, next

570
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Speaker 5: time you're on you got to tell some Jim Harbaugh stories,

571
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Speaker 5: because I know you got some. If we're playing for

572
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Speaker 5: him and coaching with him, I know you got some

573
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Speaker 5: some beauties.

574
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Speaker 8: What a time we get. We'll save that for later.

575
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Speaker 5: Drew Corell, our guest, as we continue with a big

576
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Speaker 5: red rage wasented by santan Ford and Gilbert. We are

577
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Speaker 5: santan Ford.

578
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Speaker 11: We got a good group of guys that's just like

579
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Speaker 11: great dudes that want to play football, so it's easy

580
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Speaker 11: to mingle with the group. Is easy to interject young

581
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Speaker 11: office and linemen into the room, and it'd be fun.

582
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Speaker 12: Oh man, me and Parris are already clicking. Man, such

583
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Speaker 12: a cool guy, very smart. We even have our own

584
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Speaker 12: handshake going on. Already there you go, and already, well,

585
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Speaker 12: I'll give you guys a clue. It's we wouldn't call

586
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Speaker 12: it a handshake. We would call it more of a

587
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Speaker 12: belly shake.

588
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Speaker 5: Well, well, Hernandez has my attention on that one. Not

589
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Speaker 5: exactly sure what that might be all about, but from

590
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Speaker 5: the sideline this year, I'll be sure to keep half

591
00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,760
Speaker 5: an eye on those two breaking the huddle, because apparently

592
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:09,640
Speaker 5: they got something in store. It is a big red

593
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Speaker 5: rage presented by Santan Ford in Gilbert's special thanks to

594
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Speaker 5: Cardinals receivers coach passing game coordinator Drew Terrell. The former

595
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Speaker 5: channeler Hamilton Star went to Stanford. I love the line

596
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Speaker 5: about remind zach Ertz that he was the leading receiver

597
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,080
Speaker 5: for that Stanford team his senior year. So we're gonna

598
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Speaker 5: have to do that with zach Ertz a little bit later. Well,

599
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Speaker 5: I mean the personalities and you brought it up in

600
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Speaker 5: your interview with Will Hernandez earlier today a ninety eight

601
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Speaker 5: seven FM Arizona Sports The Wolf and Luke Show. I

602
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 5: mean the personality that offensive line room are almost as

603
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Speaker 5: big as the individuals themselves, right, they need like their

604
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: own podcast. I mean that would be that would be

605
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 5: good stuff to get those guys on Mike interacting for real.

606
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought that was super super funny, right there,

607
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Speaker 1: Will Hernandez. Especially, here's a guy three hundred and fifty pounds. Now,

608
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Speaker 1: he says Paul, he wants to get down to three

609
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Speaker 1: thirty five. Okay, he will be down to three thirty

610
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Speaker 1: five when he comes into training camp, but right now

611
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Speaker 1: he's three fifty And you know, honestly, will you look

612
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Speaker 1: every bit of that?

613
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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, well, well think about it. D

614
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Speaker 5: J Jumpers. We asked him about the schedule release, right,

615
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Speaker 5: and and he what was this joke?

616
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Speaker 8: Half joke? Half for real?

617
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Speaker 5: Did we offend anyone in the league office? Because look

618
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Speaker 5: at some of the defensive lines that go against to

619
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Speaker 5: start the year the Washington Commanders, are you kidding me?

620
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Speaker 5: With Deron Payne and Jonathan Allen and Montes Sweat and

621
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Speaker 5: Chase Young and then you get Dexter Lawrence. I think

622
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Speaker 5: about Dexter Lawrence. I mean, Will Hernandz might have to

623
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Speaker 5: be three point fifty to go against the Giants and

624
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Speaker 5: Dexter Lawrence. They're all pro nose tackle. And then you

625
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Speaker 5: get that Cowboys front of Michah Parsons. And then in

626
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Speaker 5: week four, hello, there's Nick Bosa and Javon Hargrave. Hargrave

627
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Speaker 5: on the interior. So I mean, maybe it's by design

628
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Speaker 5: Will Hernandez wayne into three p fifty because guess what,

629
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Speaker 5: they're going to be tested in the first month of

630
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Speaker 5: the season.

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Speaker 1: No, they are going to be tested bully. He did

632
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Speaker 1: say though that no, he's it's not by it. He

633
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Speaker 1: doesn't want to be three to fifty. Okay, he says

634
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Speaker 1: he wants to be three thirty five. But you know,

635
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Speaker 1: and you know me, I'm like, hey, Will, if you

636
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Speaker 1: want to stay at three fifty, that's great, because oh,

637
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Speaker 1: by the way, are we running power? Are we doing that?

638
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Speaker 1: Are we going to line up and actually blow somebody's

639
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: face off and run the ball downhill? And can I

640
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,160
Speaker 1: just tell you that Will Hernandez was talking about that

641
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Speaker 1: very thing. PAULI really impressed with the physicality of Manti

642
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: assen Ford and JG and their culture.

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Speaker 5: Hey, Will Hernandez might want to check and see if

644
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Speaker 5: Jonathan Gannon runs a fitness test on the first day

645
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Speaker 5: of camp. I'm just saying, you know, before he decides

646
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Speaker 5: what he's going to weigh in exactly in the whole cardio. Look,

647
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Speaker 5: here's DJ Humphries from The Wolf and Luke Show this

648
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 5: week on his very first meeting with a new offensive coordinator,

649
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Speaker 5: Drew Petsing.

650
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Speaker 11: Me and Drew became friends the first day we met

651
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Speaker 11: because the first thing he said to me was, I'm

652
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Speaker 11: gonna tell you now, we're gonna run the ball a

653
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Speaker 11: lot more than you did before. I said, Man, you

654
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Speaker 11: don't have to tell me anything else, brouh. I'm not

655
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Speaker 11: the guy that you need to like tell the offense to.

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Speaker 11: I'm not that gab bro. I'm gonna go out there

657
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Speaker 11: and and block the inn. Let you guys play ten

658
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Speaker 11: versus ten. I really appreciate you telling me that we're

659
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Speaker 11: just gonna run about more everything else, Coach, don't even

660
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Speaker 11: waste your breath, bro.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of players talking about what's coming in

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Speaker 5: terms of not only more run game, but the style

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Speaker 5: of run game. We also talked to running back Corey

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Speaker 5: Clement this week and he affirmed pretty much everything DJ

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Speaker 5: Humphreys was saying.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he did. Paulin and Corey Clement at five ten,

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Speaker 1: two twenty five. I might add, go ahead and try

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Speaker 1: to tackle that. That hurts you, That physically hurts you.

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Speaker 1: To try to tackle that. I'm so excited. And the

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Speaker 1: reason why I'm so excited is because I really do

671
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Speaker 1: believe that the game of football and all of its

672
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Speaker 1: glory on the line of scrimmage offensively and defensively, is

673
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Speaker 1: going to come back to the State of Arizona via

674
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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals. I think they're gonna line up Paul

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Speaker 1: just talking to Will today and DJ. Of course, they're

676
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Speaker 1: gonna line up under center a lot more. They're gonna

677
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Speaker 1: run twelve in thirteen personnel out on the field. That's

678
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Speaker 1: one back, two tight ends, one back, three tight ends.

679
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,040
Speaker 1: They're gonna attack down hill. They're gonna run downhill and

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Speaker 1: attack it and use play action. You know how much

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Speaker 1: to what degree, I don't know, but I'm really excited

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Speaker 1: about it because I do believe that's the area this

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Speaker 1: offense needs to evolve.

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Speaker 5: And here's Will Hernandez from your interview earlier today, and

685
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Speaker 5: just what a successful run game can do for you.

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Speaker 12: When you're very consistent and you're able to execute, and

687
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Speaker 12: you're able to run the ball so much you don't

688
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Speaker 12: play actions, all those start being so much more effective.

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Speaker 12: Beautiful guys down the field of wide ass open, and

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Speaker 12: you know, it's just it makes a lot of things

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Speaker 12: easier for everybody else around the ball.

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Speaker 5: And then you went into out they're going to run

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Speaker 5: the power. Okay, so we'll give us a quick recap

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Speaker 5: on that, because you know, I was just listening, but

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Speaker 5: it sounded like you were out of your seat at

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Speaker 5: that point.

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Speaker 1: No, I was, and it was because once again, are

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Speaker 1: you actually gonna get into a power personnel group who

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Speaker 1: like twelve personnel and you're gonna go ahead and line

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Speaker 1: the tight end up twelve or thirteen, two tight ends

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Speaker 1: or three tight ends. You're gonna line it up, and

702
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Speaker 1: then you're gonna collapse the right side. Everyone's going to blockdown.

703
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 1: We're gonna kick the n man out on the line

704
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: of scrimmage of backside guard. It's gonna pull around and

705
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Speaker 1: come up through and get on the linebacker. That is

706
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Speaker 1: the most physical play in all of football. It is

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Speaker 1: the power. It's the second play they actually drew up

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Speaker 1: in the dirt when they created the game of football,

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Speaker 1: and that is going to be run by the Arizona

710
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Speaker 1: Cardinals at some point in time. How much and to

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Speaker 1: what degree, I don't know, But just the fact they're

712
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Speaker 1: wrapping it out right now, Paul tells me so much

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Speaker 1: about this offense and the mentality of this offense going forward.

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Speaker 5: You know, a lot is made about Jonathan Gannon was

715
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Speaker 5: a defensive head coach, but I think he knows, yes,

716
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Speaker 5: from being a defensive coordinator, that if another team can

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Speaker 5: run the ball, you know they're going to run the ball.

718
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Speaker 5: And they still run the ball. Not only is that

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Speaker 5: a very effective in moving the chains, but be it

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Speaker 5: is demoralizing in what they sue to a defense, right.

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Speaker 1: Yes, PAULI, no, it truly is. When the other team

722
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Speaker 1: can line up and this is this is about you know,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about simplifying and this simplifying up the

724
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Speaker 1: offense right here, simplifying it for Kyler Murray. This is

725
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Speaker 1: where it really is going to help Kyler to get

726
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Speaker 1: in a huddle, you call a play and know that

727
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Speaker 1: I'm going to hand the ball off on this play.

728
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Speaker 1: Know that you're going to hand the ball off on

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Speaker 1: this play and then carry a fake out, whether it's

730
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Speaker 1: a boot, whether it's a waggle, whatever you're gonna do.

731
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Speaker 1: After you handing that ball off, you're going to go

732
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Speaker 1: ahead and you're going to fake that. And I love

733
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Speaker 1: that because it's so definitive. Okay, we are going to

734
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Speaker 1: attack downhill. Your offensive line knows that they're not guessing

735
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Speaker 1: as to how they're going to come off the ball.

736
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Speaker 1: They know you're gonna hand the ball off to James

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Speaker 1: Conner and oh, by the way, he's two hundred and

738
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Speaker 1: thirty two pounds. They're going to attack the line of

739
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Speaker 1: scrimmage downhill in Paul, guess what that does. That tells

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Speaker 1: every offensive lineman that lines up and puts his hand

741
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Speaker 1: in the dirt, We're counting on you to do your job.

742
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Speaker 1: We're counting on you to blow somebody off the ball.

743
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Speaker 1: The demand is put on the offensive line to do

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Speaker 1: their job and block somebody because we're running down hell. Paul,

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Speaker 1: I love that. Just think of the mentality of that.

746
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Speaker 1: Right now, you're not running an RPO where you you know,

747
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: run pass option where the offensive line doesn't really know

748
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Speaker 1: or we're going to run it. So you know, okay,

749
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Speaker 1: I'm not trying to read that week side inside linebacker.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to do that. I'm trying to block

751
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Speaker 1: the guy here that there's no doubt when you line

752
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 1: up and run the ball. And that's where your offense

753
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: can become very, very effective by using play action.

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Speaker 5: And Will Hernandez he went off on a bit of

755
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,040
Speaker 5: a rant on that where he said, yeah, the play

756
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: action becomes so much more effective. Receivers are more wide open.

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Speaker 5: It just makes things easier for everyone who's around the ball,

758
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Speaker 5: in the words of Will Hernandez. And then you talk

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Speaker 5: about simplifying it. Look, how many times do we hear defenders,

760
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Speaker 5: especially defensive linemen and guys in the box, say that

761
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Speaker 5: when the opponent gets in the gun, it simplifies it

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Speaker 5: for the front seven.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and so, and.

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Speaker 5: Look, nobody ran the shotgun to a higher percentage last

765
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Speaker 5: season than the Arizona Cardinals offense. So now, especially if

766
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Speaker 5: you're going to start the season with a Cole McCoy

767
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Speaker 5: under center, for example, or at least playing quarterback, I

768
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Speaker 5: would envision Cold being under center more than we ever

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Speaker 5: saw the last couple of years.

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Speaker 1: No doubt, and you know it does so much of

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Speaker 1: the time. It really helps your quarterback and run down

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Speaker 1: situation first and ten second and one to six. When

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Speaker 1: you line up and you line up, especially a power

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Speaker 1: personnel group Pauli, when you go two tights, three tights,

775
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 1: you line up and you run some play action right there. Again,

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Speaker 1: it simplifies a lot of things for the quarterback. It's

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Speaker 1: you go ahead, Okay, we're not gonna run it. We're

778
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Speaker 1: gonna use play action on this Bam. You're either gonna boot,

779
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: which means you're gonna roll out to the strong side,

780
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: or you're gonna waggle to the weak side of the formation.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get out on the edge. You're gonna hit

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Speaker 1: the flat, or you're gonna hit the drag, or you're

783
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Speaker 1: gonna hit the deep rot. I mean, it's just bought

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Speaker 1: a bing but a boot.

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Speaker 5: Hey, still a lot of decisions to made on that

786
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 5: offensive line. D J. Jumfrees is maybe the only known

787
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Speaker 5: for sure at left tackle. Will Hernandez Is he gonna

788
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: stay at right guard? Who's your center? Paris Johnson Junior?

789
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Speaker 5: Is he your right tackle? Could he be in the

790
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Speaker 5: mix at left guard? We'll talk about the defensive front

791
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Speaker 5: when we come back, and a reminder. Single game tickets

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Speaker 4: Gino Smith in the pistol behind him as Kenneth Walker

795
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Speaker 4: snapped the Smith He's gonna throw and t.

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Speaker 2: The top numbers.

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00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: Picked off the thirty on the top of now running

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Speaker 3: back under the twenty to ten dump.

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Speaker 6: Down out Saban Collins.

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Speaker 8: Great awareness.

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Speaker 3: That was a checkdown of the rights and Saban Collins

802
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Speaker 3: read it.

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Speaker 8: He picked it off and then he.

804
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Speaker 3: Returned it to give the Cardinals to lead thirteen to ten.

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Speaker 8: Saban with a look what I found?

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Speaker 1: Pick and then shows off bad speed. That is a

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Speaker 1: big man running taking it all the way back for

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Speaker 1: a pick six.

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Speaker 12: Paye hey.

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Speaker 5: There were certain games where passion Wolf called the name

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Speaker 5: Zaven Collins a lot. That was a thirty yard pick

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Speaker 5: six against Seattle last season. Of course, that's when he

813
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 5: was calling the defense playing the mike linebacker role. Now

814
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 5: he's on the outside at least as of now, I'd

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Speaker 5: be the most intriguing player on that side of the ball.

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Speaker 5: Dollar for dollar, just okay, how's he gonna fare? Especially

817
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 5: considering the need on this team for someone to be

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Speaker 5: a force off the edge, it is the big Red

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Speaker 5: Rage presented by Santane Ford and Gilbert. We are Santan Ford,

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Speaker 5: Paul kelvic, Ron, Wolfley and wolf What do you make

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Speaker 5: of Xavan Collins working with the outside linebackers?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully. First of all, my first thought was the

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Speaker 1: fact that he looks more like an edge player than

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Speaker 1: he doesn't like linebacker, you know, with all of his

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Speaker 1: height and his length, of course, he looks more like

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Speaker 1: an edge player and it's going to be really interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how he takes to that. I did not

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Speaker 1: really know this, but last year, of course, whenever Zavan

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Speaker 1: Collins would get out on the edge, he was still

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Speaker 1: making all the checks and all the col Do you

831
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Speaker 1: have any idea how difficult that is to do, Paul?

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Speaker 5: It is remarkable to hear him say that that he

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Speaker 5: would be on the edge and you have to shout

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Speaker 5: the adjustments to checks like they'd come out and empty,

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Speaker 5: and then you'd have to check as a defensive front

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Speaker 5: and he's like shouting like al right, that's right, I mean, wow,

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Speaker 5: in a loud stadium, that's difficult.

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Speaker 1: It just shows you the mental acumen that this guy

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Speaker 1: really has because he was able to actually play Mike linebacker,

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Speaker 1: making the adjustments and the calls, not from behind the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, but from the edge. Very very interesting

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Speaker 1: on that. I think his physical skill set is a

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00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 1: better fit for the edge now I think that. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that I think that, but it's really interesting

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Speaker 1: that Zavian told us that the coaching staff jg of

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Speaker 1: course and Nick Rollis they were the ones who actually

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Speaker 1: approached him in regard to saying, hey, listen, we'd like

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Speaker 1: to start you off here on the edge where we're

849
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Speaker 1: gonna still move you around. It's not like you're never

850
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Speaker 1: gonna play Mike linebacker again, but we'd like to start

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Speaker 1: you off here on the edge. I thought that was

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Speaker 1: really interesting to hear Zavon Collins say it was basically

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Speaker 1: their idea, and Zavon was all about I want to win.

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Speaker 1: Not a surprise there either.

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Speaker 5: And when you talk about as measurable, so he is

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Speaker 5: six ' four plus in every bit of two sixty,

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Speaker 5: so I mean he is an extra large dude who

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Speaker 5: seemingly would be very well suited to the edge.

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Speaker 8: Holding the point.

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Speaker 5: We'll see here's Jonathan gall Gannon on Zamon Collins' attitude so.

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Speaker 8: Far, He's doing a good job.

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Speaker 10: But I love about Zavon as that's the type of

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Speaker 10: makeup that you want in your players, is coach. I'm

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Speaker 10: willing to do anything that you want me to do

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Speaker 10: to help the team. And when you have a bunch

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Speaker 10: of guys like that on your team, you have a

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Speaker 10: good chance to win.

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Speaker 5: I know that a lot of people like to make

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Speaker 5: the comparison to a Hassan Reddick, who's also was once

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Speaker 5: upon a time an inside linebacker first round pick by

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Speaker 5: the Cardinals, who didn't really flourish until he got to

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Speaker 5: the edge. Difference is as Son Reddick had been an

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Speaker 5: All American in college at that position. All right, this

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Speaker 5: is new for Xavi and Collins, But I'm wondering, well,

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Speaker 5: do you think this could unlock his athleticism a little

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Speaker 5: bit more akin to a Hassan, Yes, I do, Paully.

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Speaker 1: I think it's going to be a challenge to him.

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Speaker 1: Just talking to him the other day, had the opportunity

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Speaker 1: to sit down and talk to him. Just talking to him,

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Speaker 1: you could see his light, his face light up just

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Speaker 1: a little bit. You could see the light coming from him.

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Speaker 1: Paully when he started talking about that and moving out

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Speaker 1: to the edge and bringing the athleticism to the edge

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Speaker 1: a little bit. It's a challenge to him. This is

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Speaker 1: something that I think he is going to cultivate. What

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Speaker 1: also is very interesting, Paully, is just the fact that okay,

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Speaker 1: with the whole Hassan Reddick and Jag of course and

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Speaker 1: Nick Rowlis. Hey, guess what they took Hasan Reddick and

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Speaker 1: made him one of the best edge players in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League in that defense with Philadelphia. And now

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Speaker 1: they come out here and we all thought, what PAULI

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Speaker 1: for the most part, it was going to be Isaiah Simmons.

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Speaker 1: They were going to take Isaiah Simmons and they were

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Speaker 1: going to stick him out on the edge. That's what

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Speaker 1: they were going to do. I never in a million

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Speaker 1: years thought, Paul it was going to be Zavan Collins.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about the two inside linebackers for the Cardinals,

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Speaker 1: Savan Collins as the mic, Isaiah Simmons as the weak

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Speaker 1: side inside. I would have bet you five thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: or more, Paul, than it would have been Isaiah Simmons

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Speaker 1: on the edge and not Zavan Collins. He got incrementally

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Speaker 1: better all of last year. They look at him and say, no,

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Speaker 1: we think you are on the edge. That's very fascinating

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Speaker 1: to me because they see something in this kid that

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Speaker 1: other people have not.

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Speaker 5: My question now is, okay, we know the edge guys right,

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Speaker 5: whether it's Zavon or bjo Jalari, the second round rookie

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Speaker 5: year of my j Sanders, Cam Thomas, the third round

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Speaker 5: picks last year, it's who's playing on the interior of

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Speaker 5: that defensive line. You look at this roster right now

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Speaker 5: is currently constructed. The guys were in the ninety numbers

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Speaker 5: in numerical order, Rashard, Lawrence, LJ. Collier, Kevin Strong, Jonathan Ledbetter,

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Speaker 5: Carlos Watkin to Eric Banks, and then Cameron Thomas. If

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Speaker 5: you're gonna drop him down to a five technique, well,

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Speaker 5: there's a lot to be decided to determine in that group,

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Speaker 5: is there not?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there really is, Pauli. If you want to make

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals team right now and do well be

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Speaker 1: a defensive lineman, yeah, that is where you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the opportunity. You are gonna have the opportunity to make

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Speaker 1: this team. You're gonna have the opportunity to play in

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Speaker 1: that rotation. I see it as almost wide open. Rishard Lawrence,

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Speaker 1: I think if he's healthy, he's already proven to me

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Speaker 1: he can play. He's an NFL defensive tackle, and I

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Speaker 1: think hopefully this will be his breakout season, provided he

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Speaker 1: can actually stay healthy. But after that, I think it's

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Speaker 1: Katie bar the door for anybody who's really hungry and

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Speaker 1: wants to play on that defensive line.

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Speaker 5: Would cornerback be the number two question for you on

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Speaker 5: this defense? Yeah, typically you need four going into a season.

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Speaker 5: You have Marco Wilson, Antonia Hamilton, and then I mean

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Speaker 5: you have some talent, you have some promise, you have

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Speaker 5: some highly thought of rookies, but there's a lot to

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Speaker 5: be decided there as well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, it really is a situation where you gotta

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Speaker 1: have you gotta have three corners that you really really

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Speaker 1: feel confident about right now. And you know you mentioned

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Speaker 1: the typical names Marco Wilson of course, and Antonio Hamilton.

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Speaker 1: You got Rashad Fenton as well. Listen, I think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be wide open, wide open, And I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're done yet. That's just me. I wouldn't be surprised

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Speaker 1: to see some signings late going into training camp that

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Speaker 1: are better in corners.

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Speaker 5: Yeap veteran corner, a veteran defensive lineman or two. Perhaps

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Speaker 5: maybe a veteran tight end or two. I mean, when

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Speaker 5: Trey McBride's telling you today that they're gonna run twelve

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Speaker 5: and thirteen personnel, Yeah, are they going to bolster that room?

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Speaker 5: So we'll see and then center, of course, center might

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Speaker 5: be atop the power when it comes to veteran needs.

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