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Speaker 3: Welcome to, I said, no gifts. I'm, of course, Brigard Wineker,

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Speaker 3: and I hope you're having a nice day. I hope

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Speaker 3: that you know you didn't wake up this morning and

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Speaker 3: have bread breakfast. And then your partner indicated that they

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Speaker 3: heard some water running and you've ignored them, and then

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Speaker 3: and had been running continuously for over eight hours. And

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Speaker 3: even if that happened, that's fine. You know, everything's eventually

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Speaker 3: in the meantime you can be listening to this podcast

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Speaker 3: episode because I'm very excited, so happy to have our

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Speaker 3: guests here today, the one and only Tim Baltz. Tim,

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Speaker 3: Welcome to. I said, no gifts.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 3: I'm so happy to see you. You know, it's been

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Speaker 3: an interesting.

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Speaker 4: Day, I hope. So that's not hypothetical that happened.

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Speaker 4: No, I think usually it's just I try to get

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Speaker 4: Regular day is I wake up. I usually kind of

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Speaker 3: But percentage wise, let's say a cool fifteen percent compared

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Speaker 4: Really admire that honesty. That's both like admirable and devastating

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Speaker 4: We listen to some podcasts. Every time we've done it,

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00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 4: We've listened to In the Bubble with Andy Slavitt.

436
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know that podcast.

437
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,600
Speaker 4: It's great. He's a really good He's been a very

438
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 4: good source of information during the pandemic, and it's it's

439
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,719
Speaker 4: really straight information, like here's what we know, here's what

440
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 4: we don't know, and it's very about that. And all

441
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 4: the guests kind of toe that line too. So with

442
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,440
Speaker 4: all the misinformation, all the and and hot takes, it's

443
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 4: great to listen to something like that that just cuts

444
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 4: right through gives you this stuff. He'll have people on,

445
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 4: he'll ask them really tough questions, and they're brave enough

446
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:31,280
Speaker 4: to be like, I don't know.

447
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 3: Oh, I love the sound if I don't know. For

448
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,920
Speaker 3: somebody to just admit that they don't have the information, Oh,

449
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,359
Speaker 3: why can't we have more of that? It feels and

450
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,399
Speaker 3: to say it feels incredible too, to not be putting

451
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,280
Speaker 3: up a front, to say no, it's I don't know everything.

452
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 4: Isn't it interesting to have to be so confident all

453
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,439
Speaker 4: the time and gather up the courage to be like,

454
00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 4: not only am I going to have to lie and

455
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,280
Speaker 4: be confident right now, I have to back it up.

456
00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,160
Speaker 3: With like fake, I'm going to have to keep making

457
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 3: up information to bolster the fact that, oh, it's insane

458
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:08,520
Speaker 3: to me and everybody doesn't everyone. I mean, in just

459
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, I've finally come to the

460
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 3: realization of how refreshing it feels to just be like,

461
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 3: I don't know and then maybe learn the information. Maybe

462
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:19,639
Speaker 3: the person who say I don't know to will have

463
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: more information to share with you.

464
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,640
Speaker 4: Maybe, oh, I don't know the answer to that? Does

465
00:26:24,640 --> 00:26:25,440
Speaker 4: that make you feel good?

466
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 3: I love it, I absolutely love it. Everybody needs to

467
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,919
Speaker 3: be saying I don't know once a day. Because there

468
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 3: are plenty of things we don't know. And that's fine.

469
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,359
Speaker 3: I mean the amount of stuff I don't know it's horrifying.

470
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 3: I barely knew how to turn off the water at

471
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 3: my house. The other day I lost a piece of chicken.

472
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,439
Speaker 3: I've just been alerted that I left it in the

473
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 3: microwave for about four days. So you know, I might

474
00:26:50,880 --> 00:27:00,600
Speaker 3: also just be describing some sort of mental breakdown. I

475
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: just want people to say I don't know more and

476
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:08,400
Speaker 3: something I don't Actually, this is a beautiful segue, beautiful segue.

477
00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: Here we go, Tim, I don't know why you decided

478
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,159
Speaker 3: to come on my podcast. I said no gifts, and

479
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 3: then yesterday come by my house and holding what appears

480
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: to be well, it's a little brown bag and it

481
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,440
Speaker 3: has a cart on it that says bridge or there's

482
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: some blue tissue coming out of it. Tim, is this

483
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 3: a gift for me?

484
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 4: I disobeyed you. I purchased a gift. I dropped it

485
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 4: off at your house after you mistakenly gave me your address.

486
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 3: You need to stop doing that. But you know, it's

487
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 3: just the people say what's your address? And I don't

488
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: want to say I don't know, And so I'm telling them,

489
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 3: I'm giving it out all over the place, and eventually

490
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 3: it's gonna the chickens are gonna What is it, The

491
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,520
Speaker 3: chickens are going to come to roost? Is that a

492
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 3: phraise or something. I'm on the right track here. Come

493
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 3: home toos, come home to roost. It's not the roosters

494
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: are coming home to roost. It's the chickens are going

495
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 3: to come home to roost. I believe.

496
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well, maybe the roosters are in the roost and

497
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 4: the chickens are like, Okay, I've had my time. It's

498
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: time to settle down at the roost. With all this

499
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 4: information I've picked up on the outside world.

500
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 3: It's just occurring to me that the roost a rooster

501
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 3: is named after the roost or is the roost there

502
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: because the roosters live there?

503
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 4: I can confidently say I don't know that either.

504
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:33,160
Speaker 3: This is now a quiz show.

505
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,679
Speaker 4: A quiz show. Who has the confidence to say I

506
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 4: do not know about these quiz questions?

507
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 3: The person that has no points at the end of

508
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 3: the game wins because they said I don't know. Tim

509
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,520
Speaker 3: back to the gift. Do you want me to open

510
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 3: this now or should I wait till later.

511
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:53,720
Speaker 4: Think you should open this now.

512
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 3: Okay, I put the microphone in this stand.

513
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 4: This is a bonding opportunity for us. I hope.

514
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: I hope so too. I hope that this doesn't divide

515
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 3: us further than we already are. I'm going to open

516
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: the card.

517
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 5: Here.

518
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: See here, Oh, nicely sealed and everything. This is really

519
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:16,640
Speaker 3: professionally done. Let's see here. Oh this is so there's

520
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 3: a Oh. There are two sides of this. There's one

521
00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 3: side you wrote on, and on the other side there's

522
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: some there's a little uh poem or something.

523
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 4: These are some thank you cards that I picked up

524
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 4: years ago. I really I wish this weren't true, but

525
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 4: I I if I see a paper store, I always

526
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: go in and I have to buy little notebooks.

527
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 3: I think that's great to have different unique types of

528
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: paper to write on and that kind of thing.

529
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 4: It's I don't know why it just became this thing

530
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:45,440
Speaker 4: where I like, I see little notebooks, I'm like, oh,

531
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 4: buy that, and then I never use them. In my

532
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 4: fiance every two months is like you need to get

533
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 4: rid of these, and then every three months is like,

534
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: can I borrow another notebook?

535
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 3: Well, I'm going to read the side you wrote first,

536
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 3: it says Bridger, my dear friends already know, but I

537
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: simply can't give a gift without allow zoo poem. Is

538
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 3: that how you pronounce it? Allows zoo too?

539
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

540
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 3: Quote attached. And although you said no gifts, please accept

541
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,680
Speaker 3: this offering from one fair skinned man to another, Excuse me,

542
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:19,719
Speaker 3: I have a deep rich tan, I would say, uh, well,

543
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: actually I don't even know a word for another word

544
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: for tan. So we were meant for higher latitudes after all.

545
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 3: Very true, tim okay. And then the quote on the

546
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 3: back says, kindness in words creates confidence, Kindness in thinking

547
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 3: creates profoundness, Kindness in giving creates love. Wonderful.

548
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,080
Speaker 4: I really I must have bought these at a time

549
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 4: where I was going through obviously an even more earnest phase. Yes,

550
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 4: And then every time I look at them to write

551
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 4: a card, I'm like, oh, I can't do this unless

552
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 4: it's an obvious joke. I can do this.

553
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 3: Is this is a lot to give somebody? It also

554
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 3: feels mildly passive aggressive. I should have just if that

555
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: had just been the gift, how thrown would you be?

556
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 3: Right now? We would have a long like thirty minutes

557
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 3: in front of us. I would just go over the

558
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,520
Speaker 3: color of the text. I would go word by word,

559
00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: and I would drag you through it. I absolutely drag

560
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:18,920
Speaker 3: you through this.

561
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 4: Well, wait till you get to the gift.

562
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: You'll let me open this up here, and it says

563
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: something on the side, but I'm not maybe Sumi's.

564
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 4: Oh, I don't know what that is. I just found

565
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 4: you know, you have a bag full of right, right, Okay.

566
00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 5: Let's open it near the microphone. I like doing this, okay,

567
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 5: pulling it out. Okay, it just feels like something I

568
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,200
Speaker 5: could drop and break, So I'm gonna be very careful

569
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 5: here opening opening.

570
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: Oh what is this? This is sunscreen.

571
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 4: It's for babies. It's baby sunscreen.

572
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 3: You've given me two bottles of sunscreen. This is actually incredible.

573
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 4: Did some research a couple of months ago, and my

574
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 4: fiance and I switched to baby sunscreen because it's proven

575
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 4: as less chemicals.

576
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Yes, why what are the chemicals doing for adults? Why

577
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: what's the point of putting them in for adults?

578
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 4: I think it's well, I think you know, any any

579
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: industry that's not regulated enough or you know, barely regulated,

580
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 4: can get away with all sorts of things. But I

581
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 4: think that sunscreen for babies is obviously we must protect

582
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 4: our children. A fellow Qan, I believe you are just

583
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 4: like me, but I think that there's more liability for

584
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: children's sunscreen and so oh.

585
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 3: What a horrible world would live in.

586
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,480
Speaker 4: But anyway I was thinking, I was like, oh, you know,

587
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 4: I have I had a handful of gift ideas and

588
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, Britard and I are both fair skinned

589
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 4: people living in California. I should I should share this

590
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 4: wisdom with him. I don't want to see him sunburned

591
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 4: someday online.

592
00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 3: That would be the worst.

593
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 4: We're on the strawberry blonde to redhead spectrum, you know, yes,

594
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:04,959
Speaker 4: is it.

595
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: Have you struggled with sunburns in the past.

596
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I definitely did, and I certainly struggled from the

597
00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 4: bad information that was out there. Like I would have

598
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 4: people if I was sunburned as a kid, you know,

599
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 4: they'd be like, you just got to get one good

600
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 4: one out of the way early in the summer, right,

601
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: And I probably had one summer in my life where

602
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 4: I was you know, Tan, that's way more than me.

603
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 4: God knows how much permanent damage I did to myself

604
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 4: that summer.

605
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:40,360
Speaker 3: Of course it's a I until you're an adult. I

606
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: mean really as a kid, I think growing up in

607
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,920
Speaker 3: the nineties, there was an enormous amount of pressure to

608
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,240
Speaker 3: be tan. I don't know if you felt that at all,

609
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 3: but like in Utah, if you weren't tan, you were

610
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 3: it was humiliating. But like for me, like it's just

611
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,120
Speaker 3: literally not a physical reality for I am the whitest

612
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: person roaming the earth.

613
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 4: Oh, I'm just trying to limit redness, right. I would

614
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 4: just roast like a beat and then have to spend

615
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 4: like three or four days just almost purple yes and

616
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 4: in terrible pain until like my skin would peel. And

617
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 4: I would see other people going through this like willingly,

618
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 4: like this is the point. You just got to get

619
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:24,880
Speaker 4: that one layer off your body.

620
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 3: You just literally have to burn part of your body

621
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 3: off before you can get to the next layer of

622
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 3: whatever damage is going to be done. Yeah, I mean,

623
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: I would say probably until I was twenty, I was

624
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 3: not protecting myself from the sun. You know, I was

625
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 3: not putting on sunscreen. I mean unless my mom, like

626
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 3: when I was a kid, and she would take me

627
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 3: to swim lessons or whatever and was forcing sunscreen on me.

628
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 3: The rest of the time, I was just running around

629
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,759
Speaker 3: getting just absolutely radiated at all times.

630
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 4: And you think, like, oh, you know, everyone kind of

631
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 4: had farmer tans because they have shirts on at some

632
00:34:55,960 --> 00:35:00,720
Speaker 4: point or but almost never cover my face.

633
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: No, of course not.

634
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 4: So you went from Utah? Where did you live in

635
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 4: between Utah and Los Angeles?

636
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 3: So I went to college in Utah, and then I

637
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 3: interned for David Letterman, and so I lived in New

638
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,319
Speaker 3: York for like five months, and then moved back to

639
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: Utah and then almost just stayed there and gave up

640
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,760
Speaker 3: on my dreams, but then made the what was probably

641
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: a bad idea, the decision to move to Los Angeles

642
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 3: with no connections whatsoever, and then spent like a solid

643
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:36,760
Speaker 3: I probably spent five years just in absolute hell before

644
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: things started to move along for me. So but yeah,

645
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 3: then I lived in New York for a year. I've

646
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 3: been in LA for like ten years now, So there

647
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: was one year in between when I worked on Kimmis

648
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 3: Schmid that I was living in New York.

649
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 2: Oh.

650
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 4: Nice, I spent one year in New York too, I

651
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 4: thought you some more time in New York. Oh just

652
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 4: one year? Yeah, one hellish year of my life God

653
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 4: bless New York. Of course it was. It was so difficult.

654
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 4: But it was also in between my time in LA

655
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 4: But I live in Chicago for ten years. And I

656
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 4: think people in general, because summer is shorter, we just

657
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 4: didn't think of sunscreen.

658
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, you have like two months where you're getting

659
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:15,879
Speaker 3: sunburned and the rest of the time you're not worried

660
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: about it. You're bundled up.

661
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 4: And I had a day job, and then you know

662
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 4: I was hitting those dirty improv streets at night. Oh sure, right.

663
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: And I guess the other thing is, I mean I'm

664
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: just naturally more indoors because most of my interests lie indoors,

665
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 3: you know, watching television, sitting around reading books, sitting around

666
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 3: playing video games. There aren't a lot of things to

667
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,439
Speaker 3: draw me outside. Oh also, I should mention just sitting

668
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 3: on the computer. That's another one of the activities I pursue.

669
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: So there wasn't a lot of it. And then you'd

670
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,280
Speaker 3: go to summer camp, or you'd like the boy Scouts

671
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: would take you out on the boat and then you're

672
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: suddenly truly like a deep purple paralyzed on your bed

673
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 3: for like a day. I would get sunsickness. It was horrible.

674
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 4: Oh when I moved out here, that's what really put

675
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 4: me on high alert, because I would just casual walking around,

676
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 4: like i'd walk to get a coffee in the sun

677
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,759
Speaker 4: just you know. I don't mean to sound so cool

678
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 4: and confident about this, but in La the sun it

679
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:16,800
Speaker 4: hits different.

680
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 3: God, but it really did.

681
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 4: I would like, in two days of just like walking

682
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 4: three blocks to get a coffee and back to my

683
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 4: new apartment, I was looking at myself. I'm like, oh

684
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: my god, this is I look flushed all the time.

685
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 4: So again, God knows how much permanent damage I did

686
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 4: before that realization.

687
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean this morning, running around the yard without

688
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 3: a shirt on and a panic trying to fix the

689
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:46,920
Speaker 3: water situation. It's like, oh, I haven't felt the sun

690
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: on my body like this in a long time. This

691
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 3: is I'm going to get sunburned. So this is a

692
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 3: very I mean, I should have lathered up in sunscreen

693
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: before trying to solve the flooding situation this morning, but

694
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 3: you know, desperation and that sort of thing. But yeah,

695
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 3: sunburns are absolutely the worst thing. And I also get

696
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 3: cold source if I get sunburned, so there's no good

697
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 3: situation for me.

698
00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 4: Oh my yeah, that's so you have to be on

699
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 4: high alert.

700
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 3: Absolutely high alert at all times. But you know, I mean,

701
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 3: who knows what I would look like right now if

702
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 3: during my childhood had used some sort of sunscreen I

703
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: would probably look like I'm nine years old right now,

704
00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:36,040
Speaker 3: just a perfect person. Yeah, I don't know. And we've

705
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,319
Speaker 3: also just learned that you and I lived in the

706
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,680
Speaker 3: same neighborhood for how long have you been in that apartment?

707
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Four years?

708
00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 4: Wow? I think four years? So we were I mean

709
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: we were half a block away.

710
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 3: From Yes, we were there for three years, and we

711
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 3: somehow never cross paths. And I'm always out walking about,

712
00:38:57,840 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 3: fooling around in the neighborhood, and I wonder, isn't that strange?

713
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: Isn't that odd?

714
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,480
Speaker 4: Sure, maybe we did see each other, you know, I

715
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 4: passed by Vinoteca and you're getting another splash at the bar.

716
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 3: I wish just splash.

717
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't want just as splash please.

718
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 3: I wanted to just be a splash on the sides

719
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 3: of the cup.

720
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 4: I thought about this after we made that connection that

721
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,799
Speaker 4: we lived half a block away. Are you watching the

722
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 4: vow on HBO?

723
00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: Of course? Okay, so yes, I know what you're about

724
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 3: to say, but please share.

725
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 4: So they when they're filming, when Mark and Bonnie are

726
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 4: filming a lot of their scenes in twenty sixteen twenty seventeen,

727
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 4: they are on the roof of the building that they

728
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,759
Speaker 4: live in that is don Vermont, right off of Finley, in.

729
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: That crazy looking building.

730
00:39:50,840 --> 00:39:53,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, and overlooking that temple and you see it all

731
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 4: the time. And I the first I mean, in the

732
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 4: first episode, I'm like, this is weird. These people look familiar,

733
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,399
Speaker 4: probably because they were running around with camera crews about Nexium,

734
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 4: going to all the breakfast places getting coffees. I'm like,

735
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,840
Speaker 4: you know, what is this. This guy's got a weird energy.

736
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: And again, you know, a stop clock is right twice

737
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 4: a day, but if two dozen times during the day,

738
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 4: I'm like, this guy feels like he's been in a

739
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 4: cult before. I was probably right twice a day about market.

740
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 3: I mean, in Los Angeles, every sixth person gives that energy.

741
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: So but you probably have interacted with Mark and Bonnie.

742
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:37,239
Speaker 3: You're probably in the background of the vow for all

743
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: we know, you're a character on this documentary. But they

744
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 3: live in that striking building. I mean it looks like

745
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 3: it's out of the Royal Tenenbaumbs or something. It's like,

746
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 3: but then you see the inside and it's like, oh,

747
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 3: this is not quite as charming as I as the

748
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,040
Speaker 3: outside would tell you. But it's strange that they were

749
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 3: just blocks away.

750
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,080
Speaker 4: Do you think you had seen them in the neighborhood.

751
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 3: I let's just say I had. I mean, you know,

752
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 3: I've had various interactions with people. The one big documentary

753
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 3: this is a different documentary shock that I had was

754
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 3: in college. I was in a math class taught by

755
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: this woman, Teresa Colly, who I thought was a little odd,

756
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 3: but not odd enough to set off any alarms. But

757
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,320
Speaker 3: I thought, there's something going on here. The way she dresses,

758
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,120
Speaker 3: the way she speaks, the way she speaks about her

759
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: living situation, something's going on. Excellent math professor. By the way,

760
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 3: I'm very bad at math, and she managed to help,

761
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 3: but there's kind of a robotic, old fashioned way of

762
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,359
Speaker 3: her speaking. And then flash forward several years later. I'm

763
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 3: sitting on my futon in my studio apartment in Los

764
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 3: Angeles watching a show called Polygamy USA on National Geographic

765
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 3: which was wonderful. It's probably one am in the morning,

766
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,720
Speaker 3: and I gasped because there on the screen is Teresa Colley.

767
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: She's part of this giant polygamy cult. She's like kind

768
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 3: of a crusader for them. She's out there, you know,

769
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:08,560
Speaker 3: speaking about whatever they were an off split. Do you

770
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 3: remember Warren Jeff's Yeah, of course, yeah, her her polygamous

771
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 3: colony or what happy was that? Like the the they

772
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 3: split off from his and they were kind of the

773
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 3: sect that I guess follow that wasn't doing illegal or

774
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 3: doing less illegal behavior. But she's, you know, she's part

775
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 3: of this thing. I mean, it was shocking there's Teresa here.

776
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 3: I am in Los Angeles, still not that good at math,

777
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 3: and it was a huge revelation. So and now you know,

778
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,919
Speaker 3: I'm in a neighbor or formerly a neighborhood with Mark

779
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 3: and Bonnie who who knows what happened with those two.

780
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 3: I mean, their whole situation is so odd. I mean,

781
00:42:48,239 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 3: they're making the documentary while leaving the cult, and they.

782
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 4: Do not seem happy. Bonnie seems distraught. Oh yeah, Mark

783
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 4: seems like he's he's on this. He's done a slightly

784
00:42:58,719 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 4: different autopilot that he's been on the entire time. My

785
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 4: suspicion with them, and I don't mean to spread rumors,

786
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 4: but I guess I must is that I don't think

787
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:10,800
Speaker 4: that they're together. I think they're pretending to be together.

788
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,399
Speaker 4: Bonnie seems deeply unhappy, and Mark seems I.

789
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: Would absolutely believe that. I mean, I think at this

790
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: point they're probably just hanging on to each other in

791
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 3: order to make it out of this cult and find fame.

792
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll stay together for far less, far far

793
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 3: less people will stay together to share a car, so,

794
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: you know, to get out of a cult and find

795
00:43:34,920 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 3: your own. Premium docusaries on HBO. I would say, in

796
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 3: a marriage for seventy five years, we haven't watched the

797
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 3: latest episode. I'm just going to be honest. The vow

798
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 3: we've stretched it a little thin.

799
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: I completely agree. I think that each episode gets slower

800
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 4: and slower, and I think they could have condensed all

801
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 4: this into half the amount of episodes.

802
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: So absolutely. I mean, first of all, we're starting with

803
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 3: a cult leader who is deeply boring to begin with,

804
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,360
Speaker 3: I mean, the most average slub that's ever existed, So

805
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,720
Speaker 3: it's not like we're getting a lot of compelling footage

806
00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,720
Speaker 3: of him outside of him kissing everyone on the lips,

807
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 3: like in the volleyball league or whatever. But then what

808
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 3: else is going on? It's like, yeah, it's like a

809
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 3: multi level marketing scheme.

810
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 4: Every time to like footage from a workshop or some

811
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 4: kind of like conference or something, it's just a word

812
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 4: solid of like, so are you feel like you're a

813
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,680
Speaker 4: victim right now? It sounds like you're blaming again, but

814
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 4: really the problem is you cut to shocked faces of

815
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: suburban people that are like, I'm the problem.

816
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: A bunch of scarves we bought at the party store?

817
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: And where is Mark? Is that his name? Wait? No,

818
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 3: what is the co leader's name? Randy Keith Keith? Randy

819
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 3: not Randy Keith.

820
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 4: Rin near Vanguard?

821
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:56,120
Speaker 3: Vanguard? Is he in prison?

822
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:57,080
Speaker 2: That?

823
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,000
Speaker 4: I don't know. That's another reason why I wish they'd

824
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 4: dropped all these episodes, like just I don't want to

825
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 4: have to go on and be like, is Vanguard in prison?

826
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 3: Of course not. I need that information as quickly as

827
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:10,640
Speaker 3: we can get it.

828
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,760
Speaker 4: I think Vanguard and Proctor deserve to be in prison.

829
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,440
Speaker 3: Wait, remind me who Procter is?

830
00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:16,759
Speaker 4: Nancy?

831
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 3: Nancy? That's right? And then there's also the the what's

832
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 3: her name Kelly Mack or Susan mac Ali Mack, Ali Mack,

833
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 3: Ali Mack who I mean, the people falling all over

834
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 3: themselves to get in touch with this person who is

835
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 3: like a recurring star on a CW show is so

836
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,279
Speaker 3: wild to watch. She was no buddy, what are we

837
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 3: talking about?

838
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 4: That's that's Bridger in twenty twenty saying that Bridger in

839
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 4: two thousand and six would have kissed Alice in Mack's feet.

840
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 3: Their chance, I would have. I would have kissed Vanguard's lips.

841
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: I mean, I think we all would have.

842
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 4: Is absolutely eyes wide open. Hello, Vanguard.

843
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 3: If a stranger kisses you on the lips, do not

844
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 3: buy whatever they're selling. I mean, whatever is happening there

845
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: is immediately that the red flag is just waving in

846
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:13,360
Speaker 3: your face. I don't understand what's going on with people.

847
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, the attraction to this guy who really isn't saying

848
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,759
Speaker 4: much of anything and is clearly like a like one

849
00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 4: of those like adult recovering dorks social situation you should

850
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 4: think recovering. That's true. Active he's found himself outside of

851
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 4: the kind of social hierarchies that had clearly like not

852
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: given him any of the attention or claim that his

853
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:46,240
Speaker 4: ego thought he warranted and then he's like a thirty

854
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: five or forty. He's surrounded by all these people and

855
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 4: he's acting like a junior high kid passing notes to

856
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,799
Speaker 4: like four different women at the same time. I know,

857
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,319
Speaker 4: like the multi level marketing scheme was his love life.

858
00:46:59,360 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, totally was. I mean his like a sex master life,

859
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: the whole collateral thing. It's so crazy.

860
00:47:08,920 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 4: My favorite part of like people making fun of the

861
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,640
Speaker 4: vow is going on on Twitter. Actually, this is something.

862
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 4: This is very much made me laugh anytime people are

863
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,680
Speaker 4: like this, like this shitthead thinks he's good at volleyball.

864
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: I kick his ass at volleyball. I am here for

865
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:29,319
Speaker 4: people saying that they would kick Keith ran Near's ass

866
00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 4: at volleyball. The one thing that people are like, I'm

867
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 4: going to go online and talk about how this guy

868
00:47:34,360 --> 00:47:38,839
Speaker 4: looks like he sucks at volleyball. Okay, he's a sex

869
00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 4: cult leader, but yeah, he sucks at volleyball.

870
00:47:41,360 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: The crazy thing about the volleyball and Twitter is that

871
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 3: for literally years on Twitter, about once a week I

872
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:51,439
Speaker 3: was tweeting about having a volleyball team and like they're

873
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 3: being a conspiracy to the highest levels of the volleyball team.

874
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm telling people there's I can see through the veil.

875
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 3: I can see I have some connection to the future

876
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 3: because I like when this documentary started airing, I had

877
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: a couple of friends text me about it. I was like, oh,

878
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,720
Speaker 3: I should look at those old tweets. I basically wrote

879
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: the vowel it's so weird to look at there's all

880
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 3: of the I don't know, but it also goes to

881
00:48:18,360 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 3: show that, you know, adult volleyball is just kind of

882
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 3: an interesting thing going on.

883
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 4: I have a Utah question for you.

884
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love a Utah question.

885
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,040
Speaker 4: Have you ever been to Colorado City? I forget that.

886
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 3: Oh I have not, but that's where the Warren Jeff's

887
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: thing was going on, right, Yes, have you been there?

888
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 4: Yeah? So one of the routes that we take to

889
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 4: visit Lily's mom in Colorado goes through Colorado City. Oh,

890
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:53,040
Speaker 4: it's just one of the most it's one of the

891
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 4: most bizarre, spooky places.

892
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 3: Of course, the whole thing is the entire colts yearning

893
00:48:58,440 --> 00:48:59,919
Speaker 3: for Zion I think is their name.

894
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they they so they have this tax loophole

895
00:49:04,040 --> 00:49:08,120
Speaker 4: in whether it's Utah, Arizona, where if you're still currently

896
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,640
Speaker 4: building a house, you can write it off for tax credits.

897
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: Huh.

898
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 4: So like like seven out of eight houses in this

899
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 4: town are just boarded up in quotes under construction.

900
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: Oh, it's this.

901
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:24,120
Speaker 4: Odd ghost town where clearly no work is being done

902
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:27,399
Speaker 4: on earth, still using it as a tax right off.

903
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:30,160
Speaker 4: And then they have these huge mansions with like ten

904
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,279
Speaker 4: cars in all these wives. And if you drive through

905
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 4: as a man, they'll follow you.

906
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 3: Have you been followed?

907
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 4: I haven't because Lily and I always.

908
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 3: Go together, so I don't care.

909
00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 4: Okay, sure I'm coupled off. I'm not. You're not a threat,

910
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 4: to be honest, Like, look at me. I'd probably be

911
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 4: inoffensive to them for a while.

912
00:49:51,360 --> 00:49:55,399
Speaker 3: Oh you are. You would dominate a polygamoust community. You would,

913
00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:59,520
Speaker 3: no man, They the men in a polygamous community are

914
00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 3: some of the ugliest human beings on the planet. I

915
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,040
Speaker 3: think I can say that safely that there. I mean,

916
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 3: I don't know that there's ever been a good looking

917
00:50:06,840 --> 00:50:11,520
Speaker 3: polygamist man, at least within like these fundamentalist Mormon communities.

918
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 3: They are deeply ugly people.

919
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 4: But Lily's her stepdad and his dad. They've driven through

920
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:23,040
Speaker 4: and they've been followed that is terrifying. Yeah, I've always

921
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 4: wanted to visit. I played this video game Resident Evil

922
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,359
Speaker 4: in about two thousand and four, where you go into

923
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,400
Speaker 4: a little like village that is secretly evil people, And

924
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 4: I always picture of Colorado City is essentially that with

925
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 4: a bell tower and you get there and suddenly someone

926
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 4: has a chainsaw and you're running for your life. But

927
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:44,839
Speaker 4: I feel like it's the more you're being chased by

928
00:50:44,840 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 4: somebody in a like nineteen ninety eight suburban, Yeah, hoping

929
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 4: that like whatever, you know, woman in their life that

930
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 4: they've kind of brainwashed doesn't make a run for it

931
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 4: and jump in your backs, right.

932
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

933
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 3: So Polygamy USA was they splinter group from Colorado City

934
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:05,839
Speaker 3: and I think they lived nearby there.

935
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 4: And wow, was that something that was kind of prominent

936
00:51:09,719 --> 00:51:12,320
Speaker 4: when you're growing up in Utah that people are talking

937
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 4: about it? Or is it just kind of like fall

938
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,839
Speaker 4: into background noise of daily life and you.

939
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 3: Know, maybe somewhere in between. You would see polygamists pretty often.

940
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 3: I mean they're easy to spot because they look like

941
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 3: they just stumbled off of a wagon, and like if

942
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 3: you're at Walmart or something, you would see like, you know,

943
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 3: a woman who looks like she lives on the prairie

944
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 3: with like fourteen children who you know, are do not

945
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:40,919
Speaker 3: look like the who look like their parents are related,

946
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 3: blood related. And so you would see that pretty often.

947
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 3: And it was always like a I don't want to say,

948
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 3: a fun site, but it was always an odd thing

949
00:51:50,080 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 3: to see. And you know, it was probably a couple

950
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 3: times a month I would see polygamists. I mean, we

951
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,720
Speaker 3: had at least one polygamist that went to our high school.

952
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 3: Her name was sir. But yeah, I think the further

953
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 3: south you get in Utah, the more polygamists you see,

954
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 3: because that's where it becomes kind of really deserty and remote.

955
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's true. The remoteness is kind of key to

956
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 4: keeping people separated from any other.

957
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:24,600
Speaker 3: Way of life, right right, gorgeous country, beautiful, the absolutely

958
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: most beautiful. And so that's the one thing they're doing right,

959
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 3: these polygamists is they've gotten out into the red rock.

960
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 3: But they're you know, they're wearing their old fashioned gear

961
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,240
Speaker 3: and I can't imagine they're comfortable or happy at any point.

962
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 4: No, and they resist change. They could be in more

963
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 4: comfortable clothes, of.

964
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 3: Course, throw some shorts on these women. Have a pair

965
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 3: of jeans under their dress. I mean, oh, it's wild really,

966
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:53,799
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean it covered from head to toe.

967
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 3: It's a wild, wild thing. I mean, you know there's

968
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 3: the show, what is that Ravo show or whatever, Sister

969
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:05,360
Speaker 3: Wives that's a more moderate take on polygamy that like

970
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:08,799
Speaker 3: they kind of live normal lives. The more of the

971
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 3: polygamists that well, I guess I would have never noticed

972
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:13,759
Speaker 3: the Sister Wives type people because they kind of look

973
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 3: like normal people. The ones you would notice are these

974
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 3: ones that you know, are like in a prairie dress

975
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 3: and they're they've got a giant wave for hair and

976
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 3: like a braid going down their back.

977
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 4: Now are you are you a Utah?

978
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:27,680
Speaker 2: You know.

979
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: Utah and Utah.

980
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 3: Like as far as Uh being from.

981
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 4: Utah, Yeah, how do you how do you try to get.

982
00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: I think I guess you would say a Utah And

983
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 3: there's no easy way to say that. We've got to

984
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: get like a a harder consonant on the end, so

985
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 3: we can transition to an Ian or a like a

986
00:53:49,880 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 3: Utahian or Utani or tell me that might be something

987
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 3: Uton's look into. But right now you just add N

988
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:02,160
Speaker 3: to the H. And it's very confusing. I don't know

989
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 3: that I've ever seen that spelled out. But it's not

990
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: a good looking word.

991
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,319
Speaker 4: It's not fluid on paper or or to the ear.

992
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: What do you call somebody from Illinois Illinoian? So that's

993
00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 4: another struggle. Yeah, it's yeah, it's not a LINEI no, yeah,

994
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 4: I think it's Illinoian.

995
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 3: Illinoian. That sounds like, I don't know, that's an odd word.

996
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 4: People. Usually within Illinois, you would never use that designation

997
00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 4: for yourself, and I guess that's true for other states too,

998
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: But you definitely conjugate like the town that you're from, right,

999
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 4: Cargo in, but that flows.

1000
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: That's really yeah, Chicago in and that's uh, you're a Joliettian.

1001
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 4: Jolietin. People disrespect Joliette so much. I'm not used to it.

1002
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:53,879
Speaker 4: I'm still when I got to Chicago, went to college

1003
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,799
Speaker 4: in Chicago, and someone for the first time I was,

1004
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,120
Speaker 4: you know, eighteen or nineteen, Someone's like, oh.

1005
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the joy lit and like toilet. It's like a

1006
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:02,800
Speaker 3: happy toilet.

1007
00:55:04,120 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 4: I think they mean the opposite, but it.

1008
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 3: Was a joke on I thought this was just somebody

1009
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,799
Speaker 3: mispronouncing Juliet But they're calling it a toilet, christfully putting

1010
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 3: it down. I'm so sorry you're from a toilet. Had

1011
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 3: I known, I would have not asked you on the podcast.

1012
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 4: But you know, it was it was an odd thing

1013
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 4: to hear. I genuinely love my hometown, I really do.

1014
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 4: I understand why people criticize it, but I genuinely love it,

1015
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 4: so I was. It was a It was like stepping

1016
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 4: into an alternate reality, like an episode of Sliders, where

1017
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 4: the only difference is that people like disrespect your own.

1018
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,879
Speaker 3: The biggest change of all I feel like it's time

1019
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:43,640
Speaker 3: to play a game.

1020
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:44,479
Speaker 4: Yes, please?

1021
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 3: Do you want to play a gift or a curse?

1022
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 3: Or do you want to play gift Master?

1023
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 2: Oh?

1024
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,880
Speaker 3: I'll tell you about what it is once we start playing.

1025
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,880
Speaker 3: You have to just pick on name alone, gift Master. Okay,

1026
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 3: give me a number between one and ten.

1027
00:55:58,640 --> 00:55:58,920
Speaker 4: Six.

1028
00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I have to do some calculating. Right now, you

1029
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 3: have the microphone. I want you to promote something. I

1030
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 3: want you to recommend something. I want you to say

1031
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 3: whatever you feel like saying, and I'll be right back.

1032
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 4: Great, okay, right now. Righteous Gemstone Season one is streaming

1033
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: on HBO or HBO Max. I don't understand the tears

1034
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 4: of their new pricing system. But I think there's more

1035
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 4: content than ever on all of their apps, which you

1036
00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 4: can access through your iPhone, your iPad, and your Apple

1037
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 4: TV or your computer. And that season is streaming for

1038
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,440
Speaker 4: free once you pay for the subscription, so I'd suggest

1039
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 4: checking that out. There's an old show called Shrink which

1040
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:46,320
Speaker 4: streams on the NBC app. That is fun. Let's see. Oh,

1041
00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:51,640
Speaker 4: recently I watched some episodes of Bob's Burgers. Not affiliated

1042
00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:56,080
Speaker 4: with that, but love that show. I've really enjoyed watching

1043
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 4: that show. Boy, I should have had a list to

1044
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 4: prepare for for all these promotional suggestions. I guess, Oh, well,

1045
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:08,759
Speaker 4: I'm a huge Tom Petty fan. I'd suggest listening to

1046
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 4: Tom Petty albums. You know everyone's going to go to

1047
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 4: Wild Flowers because it's the most celebrated, and then you

1048
00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: know they'll probably go to Damn the Torpedoes or Full

1049
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 4: Moon Fever. I'd suggest getting over the hump of some

1050
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 4: of those greater albums and going to Long After Dark,

1051
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: which was released in nineteen eighty two. Bridger can attest

1052
00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:32,880
Speaker 4: him wearing a T shirt celebrating that album right now.

1053
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 4: That and you're going to get it from nineteen seventy eight,

1054
00:57:36,560 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 4: or probably the least celebrated albums in his kind of career.

1055
00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 4: But they are really cohesive albums, and front to back

1056
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:52,320
Speaker 4: are just a great Listen. Bridger has this what kind

1057
00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:53,919
Speaker 4: of space right now? I can't tell if he's doing

1058
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,120
Speaker 4: a researcher, if he's just in shock that this is

1059
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 4: where I would go with.

1060
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 3: I'm sorry that actually took long, longer than even longer

1061
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,120
Speaker 3: than normal, but I felt like you did some good

1062
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 3: self promotion, You did some promotion for other things on

1063
00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:09,880
Speaker 3: all good things, you know, I Righteous Gemstones. It's just

1064
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 3: absolutely wonderful and you're truly a highlight on it. So

1065
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 3: if people haven't watched Righteous Gemstones, watch it.

1066
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,960
Speaker 4: Oh thank you, especially, you know, given the religious undertones

1067
00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 4: or overtone talk so far, it's definitely apropos.

1068
00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: And I assume a second season will eventually be produced.

1069
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 4: We were two days into filming it when the plug

1070
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 4: got pulled because of COVID.

1071
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:35,640
Speaker 3: What an absolute disaster were you shooting it in North Carolina,

1072
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 3: South Carolina, South Carolina? Okay? Two days unbelievable.

1073
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 4: Two days we had filmed one We've I had filmed

1074
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 4: one scene with my character with Judy, who's played by

1075
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:50,040
Speaker 4: Edie Patterson. She's so funny, so funny, a force of

1076
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:52,760
Speaker 4: nature on that show. She writes on it too. I

1077
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:56,520
Speaker 4: just yeah, I can't speak highly enough of that show

1078
00:58:56,560 --> 00:58:59,880
Speaker 4: and the cast and the experience. It's it's it's just

1079
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 4: really great. They also kind of sit outside of the

1080
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,080
Speaker 4: you know, that whole crew of Danny McBride, Jody Hill,

1081
00:59:06,200 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 4: David Gordon Green. They sit outside the industry.

1082
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,200
Speaker 3: Yes, I mean they do all of their work in

1083
00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 3: South Carolina, right, I mean the writing and everything.

1084
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,280
Speaker 4: All of their work, and I think as a result

1085
00:59:17,360 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: they both get affirmed and kind of denied for being

1086
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: outside of the kind of industry, right bubble, And so

1087
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 4: it was as a fan of their work, it was

1088
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 4: cool to see the season do really well and people

1089
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,439
Speaker 4: in town talk about it a lot.

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00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh it's spectacular.

1091
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was fun.

1092
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Well, you've got two days of shooting, so who

1093
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 3: knows when you'll finish it. But eventually that show will

1094
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 3: be done and people will be able to watch another season.

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00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, probably, I don't know. Late twenty twenty one,

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00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 4: early twenty.

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00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 3: Two, grap Okay, well, everybody, you've got the recommendations. It's

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00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:57,840
Speaker 3: time to play this game, Tim. I'm going to give

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00:59:57,880 --> 01:00:01,120
Speaker 3: you three gifts, three potential items to give as gifts,

1100
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 3: and three celebrities who you have to give them to,

1101
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 3: and then you'll tell me who and why. That makes sense? Right?

1102
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:08,520
Speaker 3: Did I explain that clearly? Maybe not.

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01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,880
Speaker 4: I'm generous, I'm steeped in celebrity culture. I'm ready to go.

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01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 3: Okay. The three gifts you'll be giving are in visi line,

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01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 3: a haunted typewriter, and a subscription to Title. Title, we,

1106
01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 3: of course know is the music streaming service owned by

1107
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 3: I believe jay Z Title T I D A L.

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01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 3: You have to do some clarifying there, because I don't

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01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 3: know that anyone. I don't even know that it may

1110
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 3: or may not exist at this point. But that's fine.

1111
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,920
Speaker 3: You'll be giving a subscription to Title and you're going

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01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 3: to be giving it to these three people. The three

1113
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,960
Speaker 3: people are Oh, I've got to get a better system here.

1114
01:00:51,000 --> 01:00:53,320
Speaker 3: This is just very difficult for me to look at.

1115
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 3: I could plug another time. Petty on oh, we didn't

1116
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:58,960
Speaker 3: even talk about Tom Petty. But I can't get back

1117
01:00:59,000 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 3: off track here.

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01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 1: You going, uh?

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01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:06,440
Speaker 3: Oh, Daniel Steele? Okay, So that's a you know, noted author,

1120
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 3: Daniel Steele, Oksana by Yule now you may remember her

1121
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 3: figure skater from years past. And finally we have we've

1122
01:01:16,920 --> 01:01:20,680
Speaker 3: got none other than Where Did It Go? I'm so

1123
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: sorry to everyone listening, but you know this is just

1124
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 3: extended time you get to listen to the podcast, and

1125
01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:32,160
Speaker 3: who could ask for more? I truly have lost it.

1126
01:01:32,280 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna have to pick one at random here,

1127
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:37,320
Speaker 3: one of the Hemsworths. That's what I wrote down, So

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01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,320
Speaker 3: you just get to pick a Hemsworth. And uh so

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01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 3: we've got Oksana by Juell, one of the Hemsworths, and

1130
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 3: Danielle Steele.

1131
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,320
Speaker 4: And for the Hemsworths, there's Liam and Chris.

1132
01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:49,919
Speaker 3: As far as I know, there are at least two.

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01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 4: At least two.

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01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 3: There's probably a third that feels bad that we always

1135
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,760
Speaker 3: forget about him. But what are you gonna do? Well,

1136
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: he's gotta he's got to step it up.

1137
01:02:00,560 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 4: He does. Liam's the one that was with Miley Cyrus.

1138
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 3: Oh that sounds right. Chris Hamsworth I believe is the superhero.

1139
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 4: Yeah he's there. Okay, okay, okay, well all right, let

1140
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:19,840
Speaker 4: me start with Daniel Steele. I think the obvious choice

1141
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 4: would be to give her a hunted typewriter see what happens.

1142
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:26,600
Speaker 4: But I would rather give Daniel Steele in visi line

1143
01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 4: and have her write about in visi line visil line

1144
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:36,880
Speaker 4: to Danielle Steel kind of you know, little Fish story

1145
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:37,479
Speaker 4: out of her.

1146
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,280
Speaker 3: Oh. I think Daniel Steele has eleven eleven novels about

1147
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:42,200
Speaker 3: in visi line in her.

1148
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: Can you imagine like the tortured, like you know, suburban

1149
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:50,640
Speaker 4: moms and husbands having torrid affairs having to like gingerly

1150
01:02:50,680 --> 01:02:53,800
Speaker 4: take out there in vis a line before they make,

1151
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 4: you know, like secret love.

1152
01:02:55,960 --> 01:02:57,919
Speaker 3: I want to see one of those book covers where

1153
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 3: everyone looks absolutely except for they're clearly wearing in visile

1154
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 3: line or.

1155
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 4: They're halfway through taking it out, but bodies are just

1156
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 4: so hot.

1157
01:03:08,560 --> 01:03:12,200
Speaker 3: There's just the drool going down the man's chest. It's

1158
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 3: a I think that's a whole a whole genre waiting

1159
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:16,240
Speaker 3: to happen.

1160
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:21,160
Speaker 4: Yes, he fumbled his invisile line trays and they fell

1161
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 4: in front of her. She said, Uh, don't be ashamed.

1162
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: I'm wearing some right now. They're locked eyes.

1163
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 3: That way home from the visile line retailer.

1164
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 4: So I'll give I'll give Danielle Steele, I'll give her

1165
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 4: INVISI beautiful. I'll give Liam Hemsworth title because clearly he

1166
01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 4: needs music in his life because he doesn't have Miley anymore.

1167
01:03:51,680 --> 01:03:54,040
Speaker 3: Well, and he's kind of the title of the Hemsworth family.

1168
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: I mean, Liam, if you're listening, I'm sorry, but I mean, well,

1169
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: actually the guy. I mean, if there's a third brother,

1170
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 3: and I know you're out there, you're really the title.

1171
01:04:03,400 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 3: But for the purposes of this podcast, we'll just call

1172
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 3: Liam the title.

1173
01:04:08,720 --> 01:04:14,960
Speaker 4: Assuming that there's only two. A very costly corporate mistake

1174
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 4: goes to Liam Hemsworth that's been forced onto all of

1175
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,400
Speaker 4: us despite the fact that we've said we don't want it.

1176
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 4: We already have enough streaming service, so that's very fitting,

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01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:30,080
Speaker 4: I think. And then the haunted typewriter goes to Oxana

1178
01:04:30,080 --> 01:04:33,160
Speaker 4: biol so that she can just go off and riff

1179
01:04:33,160 --> 01:04:35,920
Speaker 4: because she's had an extraordinary life. Oh yeah, I mean

1180
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 4: at it since the Olympics. Yeah, I mean, what's been

1181
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:40,320
Speaker 4: going on with Oxana?

1182
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 3: She's got to I mean, she's got at least one

1183
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 3: book that this haunted typewriter can help her get written.

1184
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 3: And then who knows what happens from there. Maybe she

1185
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 3: starts writing threatening letters to old competitors, or maybe it

1186
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,760
Speaker 3: possesses her and she becomes a typewriter. I mean, there's

1187
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 3: so much that can happen with this woman in her life.

1188
01:04:57,840 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 3: I mean, she was one of our biggest I'll say

1189
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:03,440
Speaker 3: it is what the biggest stars on Earth.

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01:05:04,080 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 4: It seems like I'm sniffing out a fellow ice skating.

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01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely. You know, between the years of nineteen ninety

1192
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 3: two and about well, let's just take it up to

1193
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:22,520
Speaker 3: the Salt Lake Olympics in two thousand and two, I was,

1194
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:26,480
Speaker 3: you know, I had some investment, in emotional investment in

1195
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:28,760
Speaker 3: these people. You know, we had the now I can't

1196
01:05:28,800 --> 01:05:37,600
Speaker 3: name anybody, of course, Nancy Kerrigan and Harding, Michelle Kwan. Yes,

1197
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:41,600
Speaker 3: I there were stars galore.

1198
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:46,160
Speaker 4: And Chris Gee oddly one of those a very interesting

1199
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,280
Speaker 4: sport where the female side was just so much more compelling.

1200
01:05:49,480 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: Oh no, far more. I couldn't. I couldn't tell you

1201
01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 3: a single male.

1202
01:05:55,040 --> 01:06:01,680
Speaker 4: Oh, Brian Boyitano not registered for me. Scott Hamilton.

1203
01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:04,520
Speaker 3: Scott Hamilton, okay, but he's kind of, you know, gone

1204
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 3: beyond what it is to just be an ice skater.

1205
01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 3: He's you know, commenting and comment I.

1206
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 4: Think he's in the Hall of Fame for his commentating

1207
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: and not his skating.

1208
01:06:16,400 --> 01:06:20,600
Speaker 3: He finally found something he could do.

1209
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,960
Speaker 4: This is sixth in the world at skating, and we're

1210
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:24,440
Speaker 4: shading in.

1211
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:30,320
Speaker 3: Well. I think you played that very very well, and

1212
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 3: so we're just gonna smoothly transition into the final segment

1213
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:35,320
Speaker 3: of this podcast where we're going to help some people

1214
01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:39,080
Speaker 3: they're writing into I said, no gifts at gmail dot com.

1215
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 3: There's nothing they need more in the world than advice

1216
01:06:41,320 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: from two strangers on a podcast. So I'll read this

1217
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 3: first question. This says, dear Bridger and guest. My sister

1218
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:51,680
Speaker 3: is turning twelve soon. She loves volunteering with shelter pets, reading,

1219
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:54,919
Speaker 3: playing video games, and supporting the environment. I need a gift,

1220
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:56,960
Speaker 3: idea and any other ideas you have to help a

1221
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 3: twelve year old celebrate in self isolation. As a nineteen

1222
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 3: year old who only has a vague idea of what

1223
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,880
Speaker 3: tweens are into these days, I'm curious as to what

1224
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 3: you guys think twins are into these days. Thank you.

1225
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,960
Speaker 3: That's from Sarah in North Carolina. So I mean we're

1226
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:14,160
Speaker 3: already on a We've already talked about one of the

1227
01:07:14,200 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: Carolinas here, so I think we're on the a good

1228
01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:20,880
Speaker 3: frequency for Sarah. After that, I do not know what

1229
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,520
Speaker 3: a twelve year old. Recently, somebody reached out to me

1230
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:28,160
Speaker 3: on Instagram and told me that the Zoomers or Generation

1231
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:31,120
Speaker 3: Z or whatever are drinking Monster energy drinks. Have you

1232
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 3: heard this? And I guess that's I mean, I didn't

1233
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:39,720
Speaker 3: do much further research, but apparently that's the drink of

1234
01:07:39,800 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 3: choice drinking, which to me is very much like a

1235
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 3: boomer drink or something where like you're driving a truck

1236
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 3: or posting memes to Facebook and you've got this horrible

1237
01:07:52,520 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: energy drink. So it's interesting that these young people are

1238
01:07:55,200 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 3: getting into these chemical Leyden nightmare sodas.

1239
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 4: That's odd. That's like me getting into Bob Seeger in high.

1240
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:06,480
Speaker 3: School, right exactly. That is such a perfect comparison.

1241
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:09,560
Speaker 4: Or like or like going to discreplay and getting like

1242
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: foreigner CDs while they're blurks. Look at like me, sixteen

1243
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,519
Speaker 4: year old men thrift store closed, and it's like, what

1244
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: are you doing? You could be listening to Blink one

1245
01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:25,640
Speaker 4: eighty two right now? Come on, wait, I got it.

1246
01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,600
Speaker 4: This hits me in a couple of blind spots, A

1247
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 4: gift idea for a twelve year old and advice for

1248
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,439
Speaker 4: a nineteen year old. Definitely blind spots for.

1249
01:08:32,479 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: Me, Right, Well, the nineteen year old just wants advice

1250
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:37,519
Speaker 3: for the twelve year old who likes Let's just zero

1251
01:08:37,720 --> 01:08:39,760
Speaker 3: in here. I think that the twelve year old likes

1252
01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,360
Speaker 3: reading and shelter pits. So is there a book about

1253
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: a pet? Let's talk about Banicula?

1254
01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:48,080
Speaker 4: Know?

1255
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,639
Speaker 3: Is that for twelve year olds?

1256
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 4: That was exactly what I was going to say True

1257
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 4: Dead Series. I was like, oh my god, Yes, Panicula

1258
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 4: would be great. First of all, write a letter to

1259
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:04,200
Speaker 4: your sister who's twelve, and tell her what extraordinary you know,

1260
01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:09,280
Speaker 4: habits and hobbies that she already has. This genuinely great

1261
01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 4: human being who will be a positive for society. So

1262
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 4: at least at least write that in a card.

1263
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 3: And sure, how would just be an example of earnestness.

1264
01:09:19,439 --> 01:09:23,560
Speaker 3: She probably doesn't have one of those sincerity.

1265
01:09:22,280 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 4: Exactly, Yeah, tell her that she seems like a very kind,

1266
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 4: thoughtful person, and then give her two or three binicular books.

1267
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 3: Panicula is an excellent I mean, we're Stephen is now up.

1268
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:37,920
Speaker 1: I was like, are you kidding?

1269
01:09:38,439 --> 01:09:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm sorry I had to interrupt, but I'm literally reading

1270
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 3: Binicula for my podcast. So there has never been a

1271
01:09:45,280 --> 01:09:47,479
Speaker 3: clearer sign for the universe that this twelve year old

1272
01:09:47,560 --> 01:09:49,400
Speaker 3: girl needs to read Binicula.

1273
01:09:50,240 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 4: Stephen, was that a new book or a reissue with

1274
01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 4: a new cover of an old one?

1275
01:09:54,880 --> 01:09:56,880
Speaker 3: I bought this. It's a reissue.

1276
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,240
Speaker 4: I bought it off eBay recently.

1277
01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:02,400
Speaker 3: Which panicula is this? This is a rabbit tail of mystery.

1278
01:10:02,479 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 3: This is the original, not Celary Stocks at Midnight or

1279
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 3: meets Edgar Allan Crow.

1280
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 2: Wow?

1281
01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:15,839
Speaker 3: What could be more appropriate for October than Binicula's sudden

1282
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 3: resurgence on a podcast? Three adult men are recommending Binicula?

1283
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,720
Speaker 4: What volcanoes of weed were fueling that author's writing of

1284
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:27,840
Speaker 4: all these paniculas?

1285
01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:34,200
Speaker 3: Edgar Allan Crow, I hope the crow is just an

1286
01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:36,559
Speaker 3: author in that book, just a writer and has nothing.

1287
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:39,759
Speaker 3: It's not a scary crow. It's just an alcoholic crow

1288
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 3: that Panicular interacts with and that sort of thing. Oh

1289
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 3: my god, I mean this twelve year old get her

1290
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 3: the whole collection, you know, get a book, order and

1291
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:50,479
Speaker 3: order the Binicular series.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I would also, I'd recommend throw a cricket in

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Speaker 4: Times Square.

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Speaker 3: I love a cricket in Times Square. I loved that

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Speaker 3: as a I was probably around twelve. Yeah, same, that's

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Speaker 3: a and I feel like there was there were sequels. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: there were at least two, maybe three of those, but

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Speaker 3: I definitely remember reading the first two. Right, wow, And

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Speaker 3: the cricket goes to Times Square to become a musician

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Speaker 3: and then be friends of mouse. Is that what happens?

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Speaker 4: I think so has some kind of animal friend that

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Speaker 4: kind of protects it but also believes in its talent,

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Speaker 4: which is, you know, unreal, Yeah, otherworldly cricket talent. I

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Speaker 4: can play any piece of classical music on its little legs.

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Speaker 3: Right right, it's a very special cricket.

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Speaker 4: Look at us, men of a certain age talking about

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Speaker 4: anthropomorphized musical animals.

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Speaker 3: Both got pinicula, Get a cricket in Times Square? Light

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Speaker 3: up this twelve year old's life. I mean, we nailed that,

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Speaker 3: you know. I feel like that's all. We did such

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Speaker 3: an excellent job with this. I'm not even going to

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Speaker 3: answer another question time. How can we top how perfect

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Speaker 3: that recommendation became?

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Speaker 4: Save it for another one. We don't want to disappoint ourselves.

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Speaker 4: And go off into the rest of our Tuesday on

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Speaker 4: a lower note than this.

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Speaker 3: Right, I mean we are writing a psychotic hi right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean I could lift a car. So it's a

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Speaker 3: thank you Baniicula. But also thank you Tim Boltz for

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Speaker 3: you know, coming, and for I mean, my skin is

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01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 3: going to be whiter than it has ever been, and

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Speaker 3: that's what it needs to be. I've got to just

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Speaker 3: continue my descent into just becoming see through. But you know,

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Speaker 3: these hot Los Angeles days require a decent amount just

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Speaker 3: a lather, and I think everybody should just go get

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Speaker 3: some sunscreen, whether you're tan or not, you know, cut

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Speaker 3: down on premature aging.

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Speaker 4: Well, thank you for having me, Bridger, I got you too.

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Speaker 4: I got myself one. So we can touch base two

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Speaker 4: after we've run through these baby sunscreens and let each

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Speaker 4: other know how our skins reacting.

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Speaker 3: Beautiful. I'm glad I only took three to four years

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Speaker 3: of living in the same neighborhood with members of a

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Speaker 3: cult for us to actually have a conversation. And hopefully

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Speaker 3: I'll be able to see you in person in the

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Speaker 3: future and well, yeah, we'll both be shining pale men

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Speaker 3: with a shared interest in pinicula. But everybody, that's the

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Speaker 3: end of the podcast, and of course your life has

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Speaker 3: been enriched, and I hope go check your pipes, make

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01:13:33,240 --> 01:13:36,120
Speaker 3: sure you hear any water running, don't ignore your partner's

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01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 3: calls to action, and have a wonderful day. Bye bye.

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Speaker 3: I said no Gifts isn't exactly right production. It's engineered

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Speaker 3: by Earth Angel Stephen Ray Morris. The theme song is

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Speaker 3: by Miracle Worker Amy Man. You can follow the show

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Speaker 3: on Instagram and Twitter. At I said no Gifts, And

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Speaker 3: if you have a question or need help getting a

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Speaker 3: said no Gifts at email dot com. Listen and subscribe

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Speaker 3: on Apple podcast, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and

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Speaker 1: Well, I invited you here, thought I made myself perfectly clear.

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Speaker 1: But you're I guess to my home. You gotta come

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01:14:23,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: to me empty, and I said, no, guess your presences

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Speaker 1: presents and.

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Speaker 2: I already had too much stuff. So how did you

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Speaker 2: dad to surbey me?